Arkham Batman is NOT A BAD Batman (The Atomsmith Response)
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
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A response video to the points brought up in The Atomsmith video, "Arkham Batman Isn't a Great Batman...". The Batman Arkham Series has been one of the most acclaimed modern superhero game franchises, single-handedly redefining the genre. Batman: Arkham Asylum and Arkham City revolutionized how superhero games are made and were adored by many fans. However, Batman: Arkham Origins and Batman: Arkham Knight sometimes seem to receive less favorable critical and fan reception. Nevertheless, the backlash against these two games has never reached the level of outrage caused by games like Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League and Gotham Knights. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League is the latest video game based on DC Comics and is set in the Batman: Arkham Universe five years after the events of Batman: Arkham Knight. It marks Rocksteady's first major release since 2015 and features a mind-controlled Justice League as a consequence of Brainiac's invasion. The Justice League roster includes Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, and Green Lantern, while playable characters from the Suicide Squad include Harley Quinn, Deadshot, King Shark, and Captain Boomerang. The Arkham Series includes a multitude of characters such as the Joker, Bane, Catwoman, Nightwing, Red Hood, Robin, and Batgirl.
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I don’t think that guy was paying attention during the games💀
I mean he probably wasn't
Definitely not. I love his content but he brings up some of the dumbest points that like casual viewers would
The fact of the matter is also that these games don’t depict the norm of Batman’s patrols. They depict situations where the ratio of criminal/good guy is heavily screwed towards the criminals. He’s obviously beating more people up because they outnumber those who he can save.
He beats the crap out of people? Yeah, it's a video game!
You know, you *could* have a Batman game where you don't fly around the room at Mach 5, destroying 20 thugs at once.
I love the Arkham series, but it's combat is probably the strongest Batman has ever looked outside of any Batman empowered by external sources i.e. Hellbat suit or Lantern Rings. That's really my only gripe when it comes to Arkham Batman being a "bad" adaptation of the character.
Where basically it's only criminals on the island or in the city, or criminals+mercenaries. I don't quite remember if civilians were evacuated or something for Origins but you get the point. It's not like he's beating up innocents. Even if innocents would probably fall prey to mob mentality and also loot & riot... we don't have to worry about that moral gray area, because they aren't in the 3 games considered canon. (Honestly, I think Origins should be, but it seems mostly ignored by Rocksteady. Then again, SSKTJL shouldn't be... so who cares what Rocksteady thinks, anyway? Lol)
@@MaigenMaylightthe suit and training is literally shown and played right in front of you 💀
@@Paradox-es3blorigins is canon to the arkham games. Rocksteady literally asked Montreal to make it for them, plus there was a curfew and snow storm as heard in the beginning cutscene
@@Yourfat247 In Origins? Yeah, maybe you experience the training directly but that doesn't make it more Batman. He doesn't flip and dip Arkham-style in the comics, movies, or TV shows.
While watching The atomsmith's video, the video feels like when you only watch 25% of the Arkham games cutscenes without context to the world or to what's happening
Tbf he has only played through the games I think only a handful of times
And mostly does modded videos for knight and the others lol
@TheSsjJoker you cant really say tbf with that, if I don't know much about something, I probably wouldn't make a video critiquing it
He has a point he's not emotional enough
@@skiburc2252huh
@@TheSsjJokerI guess
He actually saved Jack Ryder 3 times canonically, you can find him getting assaulted by thugs in the beginning of the game if you decide to free roam instead of go right to the courthouse.
Where can you find him
@@aryss.2 If I remember correctly, it was either around the area Bruce Wayne got jumped by a bunch of inmates or around the courthouse area.
@@suryasingh9738its the VERy beginning as u cant free roam
@@anarchemy7905 Yeah, you would have to suit up as Batman first.
@@suryasingh9738 so u enter arkham city and save ryder and suit up. U save him again? A second time?
This batman defeated all of rogues gallery in one night
He’s totally emotionless throughout all the games though, he’s like what little boys think a man is supposed and they can’t cry. Bro had Talia die right in front of him and got over it immediately, there’s no follow-up.
@@venividi8523 Wouldn't say totally emotionless. He is pure anger in Origins he is calm in Asylum and City most of the time.
Dude didnt you watch the video he little goes over all the emotional seans for Red Hood, Barbara, Nightwing not to mention his panic when Alfrid is dying in Arkham Origins.@@venividi8523
@@venividi8523obviously you weren't paying attention in AK, its obvious if you pay attention be never stopped grieving her death.
"He's like what little boys think a man is" uuuuuh I think you forgot we're talking about a comic book character here 😂
@@venividi8523bro batman has more emotion than you believe. He’s like what men actually are but as a superhero. He actively is put in a far worse situation and fight immediately after talia dies and doesn’t even talk to Gordon at the end of the game. Don’t even start with knight
Bro really picked up a microphone and just proceeded to spit the most fire lies I ever heard in my life. Batman doesn’t care when he literally trusted Jim Gordon to shoot him directly in the middle of his chest just so he could save Barbara. Then afterward protected the entire police station from being eradicated. But nah… he doesn’t care.
I mean sure, there's not too much to him, but at the same time we know enough about him to care about the character, especially with how the initial Arkham Sequels expanded upon his lore/people around him.
Haven’t seen the video yet, but I wish the rocksteady games gave us more to work with. I will always appreciate origins for giving us a more personal story with Bruce and Alfred.
@@n4825 I agree. In some areas he’s underbaked, Hell Arkham Knight is full of underdeveloped subplots and The Bat Family Dynamic is underdeveloped. We’re given the surface level points to connect the dots, which isn’t bad, but it’s not a lot.
@@gfilmer7150 the Batfamily being underdeveloped in the game is a plus for me though. I freaking hate the Batfamily.
@@Rengokuo4o6 Then you’re shit out of luck because as early as Arkham Asylum, we’re introduced to Oracle being in Batman’s ear throughout the game’s narrative. So they’re established in the first two games, so therefore, Chekov’s gun applies.
@@gfilmer7150 Fine. Since you love the Batfamily so much, why don't play Gotham knights. Huh?
I just want to thank you for calling out that absolute bullshit of a video. He literally just cherry picked points and at that it seemed as if atomsmith didn't even pay attention during the games
Atomsmith just dosent understand Batman and also the Arkham games.
For those who didn't watch his vid, he literally complains that Batman went to save talia instead of stopping the Arkham city missiles
(Which is false, as Batman stopping the missiles was literally the first thing he done)
He also complained that batman called Zsasz (A serial killer who literally dissects people for fun) an animal
I'm not trying to say the video was great, but Batman absolutely did try to save Talia first. The only reason he stopped protocol 10 first was because Alfred stopped him by force (used the Batcomputer to make sure Batman couldn't activate Talias tracker)
@@brocksells197 tbf we have seen this kind of behavior in Animated series as well, which is the gold standard of Batman. When Batman finds love and decides to marry, he declares he's going to stop being Batman, which shows that he does prioritize his love more than protecting the city as Batman. Of course the marriage doesn't happen (the girl turns out to be a temporary clone or something made by some villain), and Bruce comes back to being Batman again. I forgot the exact episode, but even Batgirl and Robin/Nightwing were surprised that Bruce decided to retire after deciding to marry.
@@Dipj01 I believe the villain was Poison Ivy. I think its also that episode that got the whole TNBA Ivy was theorized to be a clone.
@@Dipj01
What are you saying?
It is not great character writing by itself,
for an example; if a character's whole deal and main motive is avenge the death of his family and he's obsessive about accomplishing it to the crazy degree, he leaves any semblance of a normal-life behind and he trains relentlessly to point, where he masters every field that he studied on, but all of sudden;
he leaves all of that, because he got a crush on a girl that we barely know about; that's not a character-writing, that's character-assassination.
Not saying that, it can't be done; but it got be earned well.
@@lakshaykochhar6799 I think it's kind of fine. It's shown in Mask of phantasm that he finally jumped to being Batman after losing the love of his life (he was already on the fence about leaving his normal life and becoming a vigilante, but losing her was the last straw, all semblance of living a normal life was gone from his perspective after that).
So it kind of makes sense that when he found love again, he'd want to try have a life he had hoped for but abandoned a long time ago.
It's fine to have some flaws in a character. It makes them human. Batman eventually wanting to live a normal life and quit being a vigilante after finding love is fine. This even good from a writing perspective because it brings drama and conflict.
Also, Bruce has a tendency of wanting and arranging a family (because of his parents' death). Otherwise he wouldn't have made the Batfamily too.
Modern audiences need quipy, light-hearted heroes and tragic, misunderstood villains. Why would Bruce or Batman be making jokes when, quite literally, everything he loves is being destroyed. Why would I have sympathy of serial killers? Really shows you the lens he is viewing this game through.
I just finished replaying Arkham Asylum; It's hard to believe it’s been 15 years. It has aged quite well and was revolutionary for gaming.
Not to mention it’s artsyle
@@Yourfat247 I love the comic book artstyle during the pause menues.
That game did not age well
Arkham Batman is swarmed by bad guys left and right. He pretty much has no choice BUT to beat them all up.
I mean no he can easily incapacitate them with little to no force but he chooses to hammer fist the mentally insane
'bad guys' you're just as subjected towards the superficiality of your own outlook just as Atomsmith...
@@godzillazfriction ah yes the hired goons of criminals (that are called supervillains) who constantly kill and take innocent people hostage, cause riots, break out of prisons and kill most of the prison guards, etc. etc. (you could write a short novel about the things these guys do) are actually not bad guys... from a certain subjected, superficial point of outlook
@@soociesoocie yes im totally arguing from a superficial standpoint of them not being 'baf guys' rather than arguing against what's 'bad' or Evil, which goes to the inversed contrast of what Evil is.
Clearly if Batman would just politely ask the people who jump him in every game to stop, then they all would just leave and go home.
Tell me you know nothing about the Arkham games with out telling me
Why would he think Batman's less empathetic when we've only seen him during crises
He's rarely in a situation where he CAN be nice, and I guarantee if Victor Zsasz tried to turn over a new leaf he'd support him.
I think part of the misunderstanding is that we only see Arkham Batman in his worst hours. We don't see Batman patrolling Gotham on a normal evening; we don't see him stopping ordinary, petty crimes or saving innocent civilians. Each of the games (except maybe Origins, which I don't remember as well) takes place on a single night which are some of the worst nights of his life. That's why we don't see him saving as many ordinary individuals, why we don't see as much of his empathy, definitely why we don't see as much of his Bruce Wayne persona, and probably why we don't see as much of the Batfamily.
Also, Tim Drake is treated horribly, but I don't blame Batman for that; I blame whoever on the creative who thought that haircut in Knight was a good idea.
I think theres fair points to each of the points, not that I agree with most of the sentiments but I can see the view. My main problem was the selfish one when Bruce wanted to save Talia over trying to stop the assaults. I didn't even question it all those years ago when I wasn't as open minded as I am now, he's being selfish, yeah, cause he's only human. Of course he's gonna want to save his lover first. Any hero would wanna do that, even Clark. Alfred stepping in was what ultimately saved all the folk but I'm just saying that the "flaw" of Bruce wanting to be selfish for wanting to save Talia first, is what adds to him, not takes away.
“He’s a rich guy who dresses up in a bat suit and beats up criminals, that’s not very sane”
No shit genius that’s why they’re comics and fiction. U could do this for any fiction u don’t like
You didn’t mention Batman’s empathy towards Joker at the end of the second game where Batman says you know what’s funny? I still would have saved you
Even in asylum his saddened when he thinks Jim Gordon dies
The biggest issue with atom's take is he almost exclusively talks about arkham city and asylum batman, discarding all the leg work knight did to correct his character, cuz in context to city, he's sorta got a point, he's extremely robotic in city, and stoic to a fault, but knight he's wayyy better, its just in that game he's literally going insane, and is at his most ruthless/efficient, ontop of having the most peak animations and mechanics for the sake of cool factor
Knight didn't correct his character it ruined it worse than it was before origins was fixing his character
@@RyanGP1203_MemeLord the fuck? I mean origins did a good job of portraying a young hot headed bruce, but knight was perfect at displaying care for innocent lives, like he actually gave a shit in that game
But you didn't really give any examples of how it ruined it so good argument I guess 😂
@@RyanGP1203_MemeLord
How exactly did it 'ruined' his character?
I mean, you can say it might've regressed his character from Origins,
because in Origins; he learns to rely on other people in his life and stop pushing them away, but he needed to relearn that in Knight; but he had a pretty good reason for that regression with a psycho-clown trying to take over his body.
I mean any of Tim’s poor treatment is more reflective on writers doing a horrible adaptation of him in this game. It’s not really on Arkham Bruce.
sounds like another Batman superheroics-denier to me. The kind of person that wrote that "Bruce Wayne should end poverty" joke in the Flash film.
Bruh, that line was so retarded. Like people think Bruce sharing money is what would make poverty stop. That's so stupid. Bruce is the one sponsoring all Gothams schools, and providing job opportunities by expanding his company in Gotham. That's all he needs to do. No amount of charity will help Gotham city. You need to give people the ability to fish which is Education and job opportunities which is what he does already. I'm so sick of that, "he would do more good as Bruce wayne" nonsense.
If there's anyone that I would blame in Batman comics, it's the government and GCPD; Batman did everything that he supposed to, but they can't even put bullets in Joker's head properly.
"Batman doesn't seem to care about the thugs he's fighting" Spider man literally air comboing a thug and finishing him off with a hack kick to the trought with full force.
How is preventing Protocol 10 not saving people? He saved hundreds of lives, and probably even thousands if you factor in the rest of Gotham and Metropolis (and probably even more cities that Hugo Strange and R'as were planning to invade).
I think we need a new game because this guy is getting confused.
That video is like the DC equivalent of Doktor Skipper’s video on Godzilla.
Yes, exactly
It's not as bad as that dumpster fire. There's stupid and then there's Doktor Skipper's Godzilla video.
Alot of people seem to miss batman’s idea of life being sacred no matter who’s it is? He also gets pissed in the gotham royal hotel when he see’s like 10 bodies
I think another important point is that we only see him during 4 separate nights of his career, over the span of like 12 years. Considering the medium and just how little we're shown of this Bruce's life outside of being forced to take down his entire rogues gallery in a single night, it's pretty hard to make a lot of statements about how he is when he can relax
Arkham Batman is literally the closest thing u will get to comic book Batman.
My main issue with Arkham Batman is that he's a huge dick in Arkham Knight. I know he's pushing his allies away because he fears of turning and hurting them, I'm just not a fan of that trope. I hate the trope of Batman pushing away his allies during extreme crises so he can do it himself.
It's either he does that or they die just like Jason Todd or they end up crippled like Barbara he has more reason to do that than not so whether or not you hate the trope the fact that you're out here having an issue with what Batman does proves that you did not pay attention
That’s very in character for batman though. He pushes people away because he doesn’t want them to die like his parents. And even with sidekicks, he still prefers to work alone sometimes
This isn’t just Arkham batman most Batman adaptations do this too he’s not like other superheroes who can save the city and their friends at the same time one of batman’s character flaws is that he can’t do everything alone but doesn’t want his friends to get hurt helping him
@@ineedit1772 I personally wish that Arkham Knight expanded on the Batfamily dynamic more, that's one of the few complaints I had with the game.
He's pushing them away because he's afraid of losing them. In Arkham VR he has nightmare of himself snapping Nightwing's neck and then he's constantly getting doses of fear toxin making his hallucinations worse he already lost control on the airship with scarecrows men I'm sure he doesn't want to snap on any of allies.
The Talia over the city point is not valid for me, cos he ends up doing the right thing and it is a great story point and character development
Another great vid, my dude. Keep it up🙂
Atomsmith legitimately sounds like dcamu green lantern, “he’s so cold and unhuman” like bro does not understand the character that is Batman
@MEnterprises01 I thought that Atom's video was bait but apparently he's serious. He recently made a rebuttal video to your video and tbh it's not really good. Are you going to make a video on it?
To comment on the Nightwing stuff I'd argue for the Harley Quinn DLC it's more of a case of ludo narrative dissonance because when you do "beat him" he ends up being fine and still ready to go until Ivy uses her vines to take him away so you could contextualise the fight as Harley stalling Nightwing, but I don't think avoiding Nightwing completely would have been a fun combat sequence.
Also, I thought Nightwing intentionally got himself captured by Penguin (at least one of the times)
Saying that batman is a bad batman for going after talia is bad because it shows that he has some humanity, he's flawed, and not some superpowered human that does pirouettes to fight crime and only cares about the mission
dude sounds like one of those people that watches a film or show but was actually on their phone the whole time
1:55 bro started defending victor Zsas of all characters after Batman called him an animal like Zsas isn't a serial killer that Mark's himself after he gets a kill implying that he takes pleasure in ending people's lives like bro is pure evil.
the fact that Batman saves criminals and doesn't kill them, doesn't mean he can't be angry at them or be cruel with them. he doesn't think anyone deserves to die, not that they don't deserve punishment
This Batman is probably the most competent Batman outside of comics. Bad Batman how?
Deadass thought, with a take like that, underthemayo made that video
Bruce Wayne is the mask, Batman is who he truly is. We don’t see much of Bruce because he’s working. He’s doing his best to save lives, and not let the city get destroyed in the 4 games. Despite all that Harvey did, he still showed him respect while taking him to GCPD. He showed Mr. Freeze true compassion in AK, helping him to rescue Nora. Victor and Batman have a deep respect for one another. He knew he wouldn’t come back to Gotham because Nora and Victor were gonna spend the rest of their lives together. Even though it would’ve only been for a few days. He understands why the fire chief did what he did in working with Firefly, and shows him respect. Ràs and Batman show respect to one another when you bring him to GCPD, and Nyssa also. Idk if that RUclipsr made that post to be a troll or if he genuinely had a really bad take on Arkham Batman, but what’s important is that we all have a civil discussion.
He should MAYBE show more compassion to Victor Fries. I honestly think the doctor wouldn't be a villain/would stop being one of his wife was cured, or at least in the process of being helped. For such a "genius" I'm really disappointed Bruce has NEVER (as far as I know) just gone, "Hey, Victor... how about you come work for Wayne Enterprises? I'll find your research for a cure for Nora, and you only have to occasionally help with our research until she's cured. Afterwards, the job will still be yours if you want it. Perhaps after a bit of a vacation, to make up for lost time with your wife." (Basically implying Victor would just straight up be a researcher permanently.) like yeah, maybe this means Bruce reveals his identity. How else would he get Fries a guaranteed job at Wayne Enterprises? But wouldn't it be worth it?
Every point made by The Atomsmith is just nonsense. Dude really talks about the things he doesn't remember or analyzed in the wrong way or compated to the Batman TAS (like wtf). Like every point he made is a lie, a mistake or some made-up cringe. I'm not a fan-boy or smth, just don't like when people pretend to be experts in things they don't understand or can't even explain properly.
Pot calling kettle.
He is objectively the best Batman
i can get the points atom makes, he just struggled to explain it, i feel like batman just doesnt feel like a human with actual emotions outside of a handful of lines. i think arkham origins did a great job in humanizing bruce, it just feels as though they kinda ignored/ threw away the characterization of batman's character from origins (i know city and asylum was made before, it just remains kind of the same throughout he other three games), im not sure i even sure if i explained it properly😭
This. Batman in Rocksteady's trilogy is boring as a human, especially in the first two games. That's why I don't get the whole hype about Dini's Arkham Batman tbh.
God I love Arkham Origins.
I agree, Origins did a better job in the writting departament
true but in the context of arkham asylum and city it kind of makes sense why there’s not a lot of scenes showing batman’s deeper emotions because of the constant action and running around
I just think there is a fundamental misunderstanding of who Batman is. He is not great at showing emotions. He shows he cares about people threw actions most of the time. If people want him more expressive their are other heroes. Origins is great but I think it is clear it is a younger Batman. If he was like that all the time, I don't really think he would be what I think of as Batman
End if arkham knight. Scarecrow injects him with fear toxin, goes through his fear of being the joker, for a minute become the joker, he gets injected again, goes through jokers fear and batman literally locks him isn his mind. So yes arkham batman is the strongest.
Great video! I made a pretty long comment on the first video refuting a lot of the points but you thought of some I never even considered
Agreed atomsmith is cool dude but I do have to disagree with his take on Arkham Batman, also great video btw 😅
Your mentioning good points about Arkham batman and I think that you're right and atomsmith is wrong Arkham batman is the best batman he is the goat he is the king he is an absolute legend and i think that atomsmith got the wrong ideas about Arkham,s batman character
The Arkham Batman is not selfish he does he's best to save Gotham and everyone in it effeciently
I never got the impression that it was Batman who was calling Zazz an animal in Asylums
Arkham batman is literally the best batman of all time. Note that i wont count suicide squad.
Arkham asylum hes beaten titan henchman, bane, titan joker, scarecrow, killer croc, and poison ivy, and he was dealing with a bunch of psycos.
Arkham city he survived the demon trial, beaten solomon grundy, clayface, mr freeze, ras al ghul, and stopped protocol 10.
Arkham origins hes beaten every assassin's especially in his early years he manages to beat shiva, deathstroke, and bane who are considered very dangerous.
Arkham knight he stopped an entire army that was trained specifically to beat batman and yet they still lost, even the knight came up short despite predicting his tactics.
All this happened in just one night
alright gimme a minute
Did he just say Batman didn’t save anyone in Arkham City? He finished the game right? You know, the part where protocol 10 does go through and the prisoners I don’t know… LIVE.
The Bruce Wanye topic makes sense. He couldn't be Brice Wayne with all the chaos happening around in one night for each game, respectively
So obviously that guy was not a fan of Batman at all because if he was then he would realize that Arkham Batman is the penultimate Batman.
In city and asylum yeah, in knight no
He said the video was clickbait
that dude was definitely a Spiderman fan 🤷🏻♂️
I think he has a point, people forget that the point of this character is not just their ability to beat people but their unbreakable sense of empathy
Lore of Arkham Batman is NOT A BAD Batman (The Atomsmith Response) momentum 100
I saw that you also make videos about Marvel along with DC so I wanted to ask, @MEnterprises, if you could you please make a video about how Ant-Man and the Wasp, specifically Hank Pym and Janet van Dyne, haven't been getting much respect from Marvel ever since the infamous Yellowjacket slap? The last time they were in anything prominent was Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes where they were shown as founding members of the Avengers, Janet even names the team for crying out loud!
The Yellowjacket slap was apparently so bad, Marvel denied the writers of the Secret Invasion storyline to retcon it by saying that Hank was replaced as a Skrull at the time because it was the most prominent thing Hank had ever done in the comics... what?! Multiple members of the Avengers who are relatively popular now have done far worse in the comics (Tony establishing a police state and locking away prisoners in an alternate dimension, Captain Marvel wanted to arrest people just on the suspicion that they may be evil because of a mutant who can predict the future, etc), but I guess a miscommunication between the writers and artists is enough to blacklist Hank Pym from being a prominent character.
boy in that video sound both smug and arrogant as hell
While arkham batman is indeed a terrible version of the character, atomsmith's points are not a good way to criticize his character. There are multiple other things to talk about: his lack of Intelligence, batman's atupid descisions, his lack of preparing for his enemies, etc.
Arkham batman slander is crazy
so underrated cant wait till you get big gang
I love atom, but man this point was trash! He’s one of my favorite Batman versions
this vid basically took all the words right out of my mouth, while arkham batman is nowhere near as fleshed out as i would like compared to btas i love him all the same
Can you make a video about Telltale Batman? He feels more like Btas Batman than Arkham Batman did.
We only see this batman at literally the worst nights of his life, i think it's plenty fair if he doesn't get to show his bruce wayne side a lot because of the stress, the time restraint, needing to think his next move etc. In general he has way more important things to be doing
Arkham batman is arguably the best batman, especially because of how he takes out his entire rouges gallery in a more realistic way than how the other 'batmen' do it, such as how batman from 'batman the brave and the bold' can just run through all his toughest enemies and one shot them while he will struggle with one of them in the next episode, and how he does it with no other worldly interference, such as the justice league or magic powers.
He might have been the best batman until suicide squad ruined him
I don't watch atom Smith's channel. But his voice sounds awful. Good for you for sitting through it.
it gets unbearable sometimes, i had a deeper voice at age 13.
You gotta be really insecure to shit on someone's voice lmao
Arkham Batman is the best Batman in my completely biased opinion
While Arkham Batman isn’t one of my favorite versions of the character, I still think he’s a pretty decent portrayal when you ignore the stupid shit he does in the time between Knight and SSKTJ.
He’s definitely not bad, especially compared to takes like the Snyder verse, Gotham war, frank miller, or the trash bat family comics that try paint him as an uncaring cynic for the sake of artificial drama.
In the sense of who Batman is Arkham Batman is the worst BUT he is the most practical and realistic Batman out of all of them
In terms of realism he ain’t very high on that bar 😂 but compared to current comic Batman? Yeah he’s def more realistic then that
@@billyboleson2830 yeah, for realistic I meant like how some in real life would act to his villains. Cause everyone can agree most if not all of Batman’s deserve a harsh beating for there crimes and stuff if they can’t be put down.
Honestly arkham batman is def one of the best i get some of the points he raises i'm a Batman fan in general i like almost everything Batman and oh Jeez i'm gonna get hell for this but never watched the Nolan trilogy just because they can't keep my attention and because they aren't Batman to me at least i think the problem is that arkham Batman has been touched by so many different writers the main being Paul Dini who some of his other writing with the arkham batman is non canon now but mainly a lot of the problem is people like Paul Dini Bruce Timm and Dwayne McDuffie defined Batman they still have the human side of Batman there in their writing the compassion and the never wanting someone to feel the same pain he did well at least some tome The adventures continue not being a great example but also them making the Best version of Batman of course people are gonna go i want that and finale thing arkham knight no one pays attention to at all neither did people pay attention in city Jokers blood did effect him and that's shown during the Freeze boss fight the reason Joker appears in knight is a direct cause of city so Jokers blood and him saying it's almost like an evil clown was whispering in your ear with putting guns on the batmobile Joker was only amplified because of the fear toxin kinda like a return of the joker thing where Tim is fed stuff by joker and it lingers in his dreams that's where arkham VR comes in the reason batman is more brutal is because of the joker blood effecting him smart link to city to tie everything together but fans don't really pic up on that type of stuff unless they really care about it not to say he doesn't care he obviously does but it's easy to ignore when you're just playing the games and not digging for oh this connects to this the Arkham series takes a bunch of stuff from the DCAU but it's arkham batman being touched by so many writers it's easy to lose sight of who batman is sometimes to kinda like how people despise BvS because they didn't understand the point of the arc but also snyder didn't understand batman.
I also disagree with atomsmith’s video for many of the reasons you mentioned and more. However the one thing I do agree with is that line about Victor Zsasz. Even before Atomsmith’s video, that line always just felt off. I feel like every version of Batman should believe in rehabilitation, that why he keeps people like the joker alive. Something about calling him an “animal” just has this hopelessness about it like he never wants him to see the outside of a cell again. But again, that is an EXTREMELY small criticism and in NO way means I think this Batman is a “bad interpretation”. He is still my favorite character in all of fiction.
Batman calling that criminal an animal is definitely in character for Batman.
So everybody is thinking the same as me 😂 that he was not paying attention. Thought it was only me thinking that
the only problem i had with him is that he's like a statue a guy got shot by deadshot infront of him and all he does is stands there and goes"i need to find out who killed this man" i mean gezz show a lil emotion bruce
I think he was watching RUclips or something while playing the game. No way that he misses it all
thank you arkham thank you for being an emotionless robot that always goes easy batgod all the time and never really showing us the humanity and vulnerability of the character and thank you for damaging the image of the character and that the rest of your characters are poor and superficial adaptations
6:20 just wanted to remind you guys while you’re not thinking about it that Batman murders Tim Drake in the suicide squad off screen. Congratulations, I just reminded you again why you hate that game.
I thought this was about Godzillamendoza video on Arkham Knight before fully reading the title😂
Love atomsmith
1:42 he saved literally everyone in arkham city (exept for a few hundred but thats okay)
Rip 🙏 Kevin Conroy different Batman 🎉😢😢🎉🎉🎉🎉
While I do think Atomsmith makes _some_ good points in his video, most of them fall flat because of the absurd amount of inductive fallacies used in order to make them. There are plenty of fair criticisms that can be made about Arkham Batman, so there was no need to ignore so many key details to make his point.
The Atomsmith's video is nothing but slander from a guy who clearly never played the games.
Has that guy actually played the games? No, seriously, because all of this information is basic knowledge.
WOP WOP WOP WOP WOP, M eff em up
A positive video title?!
I guess it's safe to say Atomsmith is out of ideas.
6:57 bru
I dont even get his point about batman not saving many people, arkham city is mostly populated by criminals
I love ur meme like atitude
“I Am Vengeance I am the knight!” He’s out for revenge so he’s not very nice (I know it’s not revenge it just rhymed)
11:20 bru
Why even respond to this
Batman in Arkham is actually the sweetest yet the most serious batman.
Amazing video defending my glorious tall dark and handsome goat
All respect to Conroy but The Arkham games are far from his best work. And Arkham Batman ain't even that accurate...
I think its fair to call Arkham Batman cold. He is cold, and gets colder throughout the series. Remember the 'tell me and I won't break the other one' from the very first fight on the streets of Arkham knight? Its intentional by the writers, but I get why it might rub people the wrong way.