HE SAW EVERYTHING in the COURTROOM During Amber Heard's Testimony! Inside Scoop on JURY REACTION!
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2022
- The Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard Trial is on its third week. This week, Amber Heard took the stand to answer some questions and tell her story, the question on everyone's mind is; what is the Jury thinking? Find out in this video!!! I am joined by lawyer Robert Morton who was present in the courtroom that day, he shares with us some amazing inside information about what the Jury was doing during Amber Heard's most spirited responses!
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TIMESTAMPS
02:37 What is it like in the Courtroom?
04:33 Is Amber Heard Lying?
10:00 Who is on the Jury?
11:00 What Does the Jury Think of Amber Heard?
16:30 Why Does Amber Keep Looking at the Jury?
21:30 What is the Jury Doing?
27:00 What is Camille Vasquez Thinking?
36:50 Why is the Jury NOT Reacting?
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IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER:
Hey everyone! Hope you enjoy this conversation with a brilliant lawyer with amazing insight from the courtroom!
Please remember: none of these comments are of a predictive nature! We are simply commenting on behaviors and what they COULD mean/ are likely to mean. But there are 3 major reasons this does not allow us to predict the outcome of the trial.
1) we’re analyzing key moments. These isolated moments do not necessarily reflect the overall opinion. Remember, this is a defamation trial, they don’t have to believe Johnny hit her everytime she says he did, they only have to believe he hit her once.
2) averting eye contact and turning away can be a sign of disbelief but it can also be a sign of discomfort, so it can very well be they are buying her story and are just really uncomfortable looking at her tell it.
3) they don’t all have to believe her. It’s possible for just a few to believe her and persuade the others.
Neither Rob nor I claim to know what the verdict will be nor do we claim to know the details of what happened between Johnny and Amber during every altercation. We’re just pointing out behavior patterns. That’s all.
This can go either way.
Thanks for watching 🤗
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Finally
Thank you for this. I most definitely use this to stop manipulators and to know when people are safe to be around, such a huge thank you.
How do the jurors not get sick of Amber's attorney's asking witnesses the same question over and over? I get frustrated as an observer when they keep badgering a witness with the same question repeatedly.
isn't the behavior or body language of I/9 because of His deception or his Guilt (of having a connection with A.H) ???!!!
Thanks for the reminder that this can still go either way and always keeping it professional. Loved this video so much
Theory: she favours D & E because they're female, yes. But also because, since they're wearing masks, she can't read their faces. And she takes this blankness as a positive. Instead of rightly thinking "hm, I don't know how they feel about me," she ASSUMES they're smiling at her and pouting when she "cries." She's a narc, so her assumption that people like/love her is just part of her everyday routine.
I had a lawyer like Camille. It is agonizing sitting there with no voice, listening to the other person lying and trying to play victim.. having my lawyer get angry for me. Catch him in lies. Shut him down... I felt safe. It was so satisfying hearing someone else finally say the things I couldn't.
Same! Having an attorney that knows the truth and truly defends you like no one else has is a moment for survivors is such a great way to begin to deal with abuse.
Sounds amazing 👏👏
so glad you felt safe!!!
@@cecilylewis2598 definitely. I felt validated. I felt protected
@People Person I'm so sorry to hear that. Honestly, I did get lucky. I'd been to court with him a few times. He had the money, I didn't so taking me to court was a good way to start creating a paper trail (we have a kid together so that's why we had to go so much. I just wanted to be left alone). The first lawyer in the last case I got left me out to dry, but thankfully she was able to represent me for the remainder.
I hope you don't have to go through that again... Some people don't realize how terrifying it is to be up there, being grilled like that, even when you're telling the truth... You go blank. You panic. I can remember my kid's dad making those same smirks as amber. Faking those same tears on the stand. It's infuriating, but you also feel powerless. Especially if that person has the power to convince everyone else that they are right and you are wrong ..
I know my response is long. I'm sorry. I only say it to show that even though I was lucky with my lawyer, I didn't always have that support so I do empathize with your experience
"Camille sees something in Johnny that she wants to protect", and "she see's something in Amber that she wants to expose". Absolutely brilliant assertions. Extremely well said.
E Lizard your the best!!!
Johnny=client Amber=adversary Literally her job. Edit: human interest? agree
Johnny needs and deserves a strong woman like Camille not fake makeup queen Amber
@@naturalPaths You know the word empathy?
@@RalphVB Yep, that’s why I added “agree.” ;D
Those photos that Amber insisted on taking of Johnny when she claimed he was " passed out " from drugs or alcohol ( but actually he could have been passed out from exhaustion from working all day on a movie & then having to deal with her), but even if he was " passed out " from substance abuse, these photos do NOT make him look like the drug & alcohol crazed " monster " she was hoping. Instead in these photos , Johhny looks so vulnerable & all I feel is sadness that someone who was supposed to love him so much, took photos of him in such vulnerable postions.
Instead of protecting him which is her job as a wife. And she says she loves him!
Exactly this. If she really loved him, she would be trying to help and protect him, not taking pictures without his consent to show people what a bad person he is.
I be honest, the photo of him sleeping in the chair, I have slept like this at work for a power nap.
Yes.👐👐👐
She should of helped him and protected him as a wife, not take pictures! That's not love,that's humiliation!
It is disgusting to take these types of demeaning and vulnerable pictures. It also allowed her to create any narrative or claims she wanted. She took these type of pictures to hold over his head or get what she wanted. To me, those kinds of things show she had a "contingency plan", just in case he didn't want to put up with her behavior. Rejection & abandonment are the worst things you can do to a person like Amber. He was going to pay, if he ever wanted out... literally and figuritivly.
Her constantly looking at the jury was driving me absolutely insane, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was driving them crazy, too.
it's true the juror came out and said that made them feel uncomfortable
Attys coach witnesses to answer directly to the jury. The witness should never answer to the atty at that podium because the atty is not going to be the one who forms the final decision. The jury is.
@@donaholmes Yeah, so all the more reason for her to stop trying to manipulate them in her favor. Pro-Ambers keep trying to use this argument and it still doesn't make sense.
Very much like Jodi Arias.
@@donaholmes Yeah, and they coach to file false reports of DV to keep the kids..... The witness should trell the truth, full-stop.
"Clients choose attorneys that match their personalities..." Now that explains the obnoxious behavior of AH's team.
Absolutely!!! 👏
@Sarah
And it explains the remarkable behavior of JD’s team!❤️
So I don’t know if she got to pick her lawyers of not… but her home owners insurance paid the bills. Also I found out AHs lawyers are very good negotiation lawyers who specialize in defamation… so they have little to zero trial experience because they usually settle before trial… that’s very telling. Her case was so bad the best lawyers in the country who settle cases outside of trial couldn’t even come close to making that happen.
They are sure not worth $6000000 in fees. I can’t even stand the female layers voice.
AH is nuttier than squirrel shit….who poops on their husband’s bed? Any bed? That was just doing gross 🤮 and she’s created this havoc on her life.
I was domestically abused, no way would I antagonize him or call him a baby, tell him to suck my “d..ck”, that’s just not what someone that’s been beaten by a man does.
Amber was charged with spousal abuse in her last marriage to a woman (no judgements there) and had it removed from her record.
So true, I like Elaine but My God is she obnoxious.
When you said that Camille is "Johnny Depp's voice," I got so emotional. To have a woman defending him in this atrocity is probably so important to him.
Dude I'm straight up crying! Something in johnny she needed to protect and something in amber she needed to expose. Damn powerful words!!! X
Yes!! I think that's so true!
When they said Camille was his sword and shield, it reminded me how she looked in a white suit, literally like an Angel ready to defend Johnny. Also love how she’s soft spoken just like him, but she is in a position to stand up in a way Johnny couldn’t do on his own.
Definitely brought up the feels, that was a very powerful comparison. Camille did such a good job and Robs input is amazing!
I hear you.
Can we all just take a moment to thank Judge A for allowing this trial to be televised!
Can you imagine what the world would know if we had to rely on mainstream media for information about the trial? Having the trial televised has shown how bad mainstream media is. For some reason mainstream media continues to take Amber's side. The coverage of this trial has made it clear that mainstream media doesn't care about the truth. Fortunately we don't need the mainstream media to learn what happened.
Thank you Judge A.
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I think she really did want to be televised and to be on court
Judge A wanted complete transparency for this case which was of great interest to millions of people, many from foreign lands. Each person could make up their own mind and not depend upon mainstream media, social media, or written witness depositions that could have been carefully prepared or even edited by a third person.
I’m so grateful…. Imagine how much we could have missed if we couldn’t see her expressions and the fury in her eyes and her ridiculous body language and copying of his clothing.
I’ve sat on two juries, the last as forewoman. Neither defendant looked at the jury box much. But when they DID, I didn’t like it whatsoever! As far as I’m concerned, jury members are witnesses in and of themselves. We’re there for the evidence, to parse the credibility of witnesses, to - hopefully - use critical thinking skills to come to the right decision. If I could say something to a defendant, it would be, “Don’t look at me. Don’t try to make eye contact with me. You’re not my friend. We aren’t here to ‘bond.’ Your looking at me feels inappropriate & manipulative, which isn’t exactly good for your case. When you’re on the stand, keep your eyes on the person with whom you’re interfacing. We the jury need to be dispassionate. So . . . STOP LOOKING AT ME!”
I totally agree! I’m on a grand jury right now and when witnesses look at me it’s so uncomfortable!!
I agree too. It's manipulative to do that, I think. It's like u want them to go along w what yr saying whether truth or not. No, u tell the truth. And she definitely isn't honest. Truth that to her, I say. She definitely got caught on more than one occasion lying on the stand. I mean, wow. Shldnt she be in jail? I'm just saying. But I completely agree with u, 💯.
I agree with you 100%, if she's truly a victim, she doesn't need to be working hard in convincing the jury. Unfortunately, she's one of those few women out there, no amount of love or money given to them, they will remain scorned, bitter and dangerous.
exactly..except maybe when they ask you to explain to the jury..
Agreed, however, very telling, and possibly making the jurors lives a little easier.
Listening to you talking about Camille - as a woman, this is personal for a lot of women. We loathe women who lie at this level over these kinds of abuse, because too many women are genuinely abused, sexually, verbally and physically. If Amber is lying or exaggerating for a win, it makes it a thousand and more times more difficult for genuine cases to be heard and believed.
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Here here....
Women like this is part of the reason why other women aren’t believed when they come forward.
Exactly. The manipulation she is doing to convince people she is a victim is an insult to women who have actually gone through this.
I want to add, I'm extremely grateful that abuse towards men are shown as well. We have to start protecting our sons as well as our daughters.
It's definitely perfect that Camille did the questioning because it would look horrible for a guy, a male, to straight up call a woman a liar about being abused. Camille can, and DID, point out how stupid Amber sounds
Not saying that a lie is a lie is ungodly, but yeah, cross-sexual is kind of anti-birth which is a very bad culural whatever the heck this is
Yes, lawyers will always have a female question a woman regarding domestic violence. Very smart.
@@logan197777 very smart... Camille was also just brilliant too! A man would not have been received well though if he said the same things, asked the same questions, etc. The only thing I feel bad for Amber about is an audio recording that won't end up in court where her doctor is joking with the nurse about upping her Seroquel prescription after chopping off Johnny's finger. Doctors should not talk like that
I think a man would act smarter. Camille sounded overly aggressive, and sometimes it felt even theatrical which to me doesn't look smart, but judges are bored creatures, so maybe a bit of energy here and there seems like a better investment. All decisions are based on emotions.
Where did Amber's scrunched up sad face go? Remember she had it goin the first couple days of the trial, then she completely dropped it.
The story of Johnny giving Camille a big hug after day 1 of cross-examination and her breaking down into tears and the whole "Camille see's something in Johnny that she wants to protect and she see's something in Amber that she wants to expose.", that choked me up and made my eyes swell a little bit. This has been a long time coming and Johnny finally got vindication.
One thing I find VERY telling after watching a lot of her testimony is she chooses to be emotional when she talks about Johnny accusing her of lying. She doesn't choose to get emotional when she talks about abuse. Not only are we missing typical emotional cues for someone recalling a painful memory, but when she chooses to appear emotional seems very telling.
When her reputation is being questioned she chooses to be emotional. Her reputation, how people perceive her is the most important thing.
The idea that she was abused is secondary in her mind which is why she doesn't choose to seem emotional when talking about her "abuse" experiences.
Exactly!!! I think that was the part that SHE BELIEVED was truly abusive toward her…so she honed in on any real feelings. The rest is conjured up…really poor acting.
Yup,,,,she's a liar and narcissist!!!!!!
What struck a nerve with me, was the obvious switch in her demeanor immediately during cross examination. She'd literally go from bad acting, fake crying & turmoil to defensive AF...what happened to those sad feelings just moments before??? She's a real piece of work!
Amber Heard is a Serious schizoid!
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Fr fr 😅 she reignited my dream as a Hollywood actor 🤣🤣👍
That’s that BPD shining through
@@JadaNicole86
More like schizophrenic...or worse.🙃
I've been a volunteer advocate for survivors of relationship violence for over thirty years. I've created and co-facilitated peer support groups, lectured about relationship violence at three universities, and advocated for numerous individuals. Survivors do not act like Amber. Amber acts like an abuser, with serious narcissistic characteristics. She gaslights perniciously, a most insidious deceit. I think she's beginning to realize she's in deep yogurt.
I've never heard the expression "being in deep yogurt" and i'm definitely gonna use it from now on, thank you
I think the truth is they are both ridiculous and both probably narcissistic and both probably dope things and both probably just a hot mess.
And please hes on drugs like crazy you don't know what the h*** he does.
@@nope9905 How is drugs or alcohol really an argument anymore? They BOTH used a lot of it.
@@nope9905 and you don't know what the hell he does either. What's your point? Nobody knows.That being said I've watched 100 plus experts in everything under the sun that say she's being deceptive. Even the lady that trains the FBI on deception detection thinks she's lying.
Camille is an inspiration not only to women who want to be lawyers, but people who want to heal from their abusers. Amber can't gaslight her. Camille is aware of her reality, and confident enough to point out when Amber is sidestepping her in the way she did with Johnny. What a remarkable woman and an inspiration for everyone.
Thank you!!! Well said!!
AGREED 100%. Camille can’t be manipulated by Amber’s bullshit. She’s projecting Johnny perfectly with no reproductions. She is truly magical.
I actually rlly like Camille as a lawyer. I'm rather impressed. I'm not even impressed w Amber's lawyers. But Johnny's lawyers on the other hand. They're cool. I rlly like Camille. She's got it. She may need to back off a bit, but she's good. Go Camille😂. I love it, her work and how she is. Awesome. Good job Camille, no matter how this turns out. Jesus.
I thought that it was tactical move from their part to have Camille question Amber Heard.
JD's team is full of different people, men, women, of different ages.
They couldn't put a man in charge of cross examining Amber. They had to ask really invasive and personal questions, it would look bad if man grilled her about her SA story.
They could've brought in little bit older or just softer woman. like Elaine, who Amber clearly trusts. But I don't think soft approach would work with Amber.
Instead they bring Camille, who is young and beautiful and clearly close with Johnny. Amber sees Camille as her equal, or maybe even someone who is a bit intimidating to her. If Amber truly is bipolar or even a bit narcissistic, they can't handle someone being smarter or prettier or better liked than them. They will unravel.
I noticed when they questioned Whitney, Amber's sister, new female lawyer did the cross examination, she was really friendly and sweet and only asked her few simple questions. Later I started wondering if Johnny asked them to do this; Johnny knew that Whitney is Amber's victim just as much as he is, I believe JD still feels for her and wants to protect her.
My theory is that JD's legal team could have really grilled Whitney about the stair incident, but Johnny stopped it.
But these are just my thoughts and opinions, I don't know these people, who the hell knows what really happens between people behind closed doors 🤷♀️
This entity Amber is a demon! You can see it sometimes clearly in her empty eyes....
I absolutely love camille 💕🙏
I think you mean "repercussions"?
Camille was not agressive. She was steadfast. Elaine was the agressive one.
She did a wonderful job with not letting Amber Heard get away with obfuscation. She always drilled down to refuse to let Amber do the "act".
it means obscurring-hiding- the real meaning
What planet are you on?? In any other court room, that many objections would piss off the jury, showing them that this sketchy lawyer is desperately trying to hide the truth. A truly good lawyer would fight back with evidence. Not just attempt to talk over and interrupt the flow of the other. That’s pathetic. She’s pathetic.
@@PsychotropicThunder did you not see how bad Amber's lawyers were with jonny? Her lawyer even objected his own question...twice!
@@PsychotropicThunder I hope you're not referring the the amber heard redirect. The reason Camille kept objecting is because Elaine was trying to admit Amber's hearsay as medical evidence of her "injury documentation". Obviously amber isn't a medical expert, therefore she has no foundation to lay to justify using amber to enter that evidence. But she doesn't have another option because there is no doctor to call as a witness, since amber never received medical services.
@@PsychotropicThunder you suck at picking out lawyers... Hope you never need one. Truely clueless.... Which I guess is a good thing in this case
I have never seen someone "cry" so much without shedding a tear. Smh.
Exactly ⚘️⚘️⚘️no real tears from her eyes. Such a tragedy she brought upon herself.
Counseling is for those who "admit" they need help & she keeps repeating lies. After a while no one will listen, she's already lost friends who know the truth🌼🌼
@@maryjaniejohnson7459 and her poor baby will turn out the same. Ughhh.
All of us r disappointed in her. Believe me. U r not alone. We can not believe her actions. Ik, we see it. I'm appalled, but who else is w me? Idk. But I'm w u on this, yes. We know she's lying. Ik, ik.
@@kareybarey13 Ok, who's the poor baby. Cause all the kids r grown up. Who r we talking abt? It's been said all over. Who is that, pls? We're not talking abt kids rt? Let me know cause idk. Thanks. Get back to me. I'd love it.
@@brookesun77 her baby she had via surrogate. That's what I'm talking about .. what are YOU talking about???
One of the most concerning things about Amber's testimony was after playing the audio of her telling Johnny that she had not punched him, and she didn't know the position of her hand but she was sorry that it wasn't a proper slap, and that it did not hurt and he was not hurt! In that audio you could hear her literally gaslighting him by telling him that what he had experienced he didn't experience and that the pain that he had felt he had not felt. When Camille was questioning her about this she literally tried to Gaslight the jury into believing that what she had said she had not said. At that point, for me, she became completely unbelievable as a witness.
Very astute observation I couldn't have said it better.
There are tens of hours of recordings that weren’t admitted into court….. it’s so fucking disturbing and she destroyed him mentally and tortured him while taking pleasure in it. She admitted to setting him up and not being able to not attack him. She admitted to a LOT….. I can see why they wouldn’t let it in being that it would sway the jurors immediately upon them hearing it. Truly vile.
Spot In. Telling him that a hit or slap didn't hurt......😂
You can feel the warmth and protection Johnny’s team has for him. The amount of evidence they found against Amber Heard you can tell has pist them off. They are going hard on her! It’s amazing!
When you believe the truth
Yup I was thinking the same thing about how much they must of seen an heard. Things We know nothing about. I know that Tape of Her Laughing and Tell Him to suck her D*ck made me feel so Sick at first then it made me mad. There's NO way I would of talked to my Ex like that EVER. An I have Brother's I wouldn't want someone like her anywhere near them!
As a victim of sexual assault, and as the mother of a great man, I'm FURIOUS at women who fake assault. I wonder how personal this might be for Camille Vasquez.
Wow great question about Camille
I thought the same !
This is what happens when she try’s to tarnish his life.
SAME
This may not be personal for Camille but I do believe she is totally invested in getting justice for Johnny because she truly believes him and has probably had to comfort him as he relives all of memories he never should have had to endure xx
“Johnny Depp is someone to protect“ and “amber heard is someone to expose“ Well said and is exactly why 1.3 million people tweeted #justiceforJohnny.
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Chhh Gave me chills too O.o
Yes! You know something the turd makes my skin crawl but I have to say part of me, small part feels a bit sorry for her. The woman's mentally ill she has zero impulse control because she's beating her spouse. And then screaming about it and basically blaming him for it. I think her career is virtually over. But perhaps like many other celebrities they go to rehab and come forward and announce they are now healed.
Mental illness is a real problem and it's in the Forefront in America right now. She could actually turn around and be a great spokesperson for mental illness at the end of all this. That is if she's the kind of person that will acknowledge her behavior and obviously then attempt to fix it because you can't change what you don't acknowledge. Anybody else think about that kind of thing with her?
This case is so important on a broad worldwide scale. This shows the world how manipulative people are very dangerous and soul destroying.
Yup, imo leverage the social guise of an anglicized outlook on their demographic.
Those who go unchecked will abuse their lack of provision. It's human nature
You can 100% tell that Camille and Ben are so invested and want Johnny to finally get his justice. He isn’t just a client to win a case for. I think they have spent so much time with him over the years building his case for him and listening to all he has been through that they got to know who Johnny is
U know how much they got paid?! AlOt.
Hearing that Camille broke down after questioning Amber really exposed how exhausting and physiologically draining dealing with Amber had to be for Johnny. Add in physical and verbal abuse, forced isolation from your own family and friends and anyone in his situation would take drugs and drink alcohol to get away from her. If after just a few hours Camille can have such emotion, just imagine what damage that would do to a person who had to deal with her for YEARS! Amber deserves all the hate she gets.
You’re right! It also show why her friends were so worn out.
Did the cameras show this? I did not see or notice. I may have missed it
I wouldn't make it with her. I barely make though a day with people
@@astrocriden1 In the video the guy says when the cameras stopped rolling and the court was wrapping up for the day. So no
@@astrocriden1 No, she tanked it until the cameras were off. This is testimony from the gallery.
When she keeps saying things like security "carried him like a baby" and other disparaging details, she is expressing disgust and indicating that she thinks it is pathetic. There is no sign of any "concern" that she claims to have felt.
It’s malice.
Yes! And she said it felt like his rock bottom?? Nice try
@@calmchaos6460 she will discover quite a bit. She will run through that 7M... She is box office poison, and she can no longer pay for all friends, family and her fuck buddies to "come up to P4 5 6 185.....its END GAME. Its very possible she will end up on the street.
Yes how she describes that it was weird when he cries and how people took care of him when he was at his worst I think she’s telling the truth she hated that she has no empathy
I think that he has certain trigger words from previous abuse too.
She knows them and used them because they’re not obvious to outsiders so she could trigger hiim, he would react and she could claim he was being unreasonable. The word ‘baby’ is one of them and it can be used in many different ways. As a term of so called endearment as well as an insult.
I had a moment in the courtroom like Camille. Did a custody trial for a dad with three children who were in a bad situation with their mother. Got full custody for the father and supervised visitation for the mother. It was a sad trial. At the end of it I had an emotional moment in the courtroom and had to excuse myself for a few minutes in an adjacent witness room. Lots of emotion comes from that kind of tension and that kind of passion.
Don't ever lose that passion. It's so important and seems to be becoming a lost art.
I know many attorneys get a bad reputation as being sharks etc, but good ones like yourself and Camille are needed and very much appreciated. I would love to get an attorney’s reaction’s to Ambers 2016 deposition and the behavior of Ambers Attorney Mr. Harder. It’s seems very inappropriate and unprofessional IMO.
Her arrogance and bullying nature shows when she refuses to give a straight yes or no answer and goes on embellishing her answer and overtalking camille.
Totally agree, to a point where it's so downright CRIMINAL!
I don’t know how I got myself caught up in watching this trial. I normally avoid watching others drama, and this case makes me feel kind of sick inside. Like I’m snooping into private lives… but the whole psychology and analyzing these peoples behaviors is teaching me a lot, and I find it somewhat fascinating. It’s like a what not-to-do and what types of people to avoid kind of lesson. Thank you for sharing the interesting analysis.
Me too, I'm not even into "celebrity" culture. However some vindication is in knowing that this is what Johnny Depp wanted, for people to see everything.
@@pianospawn1 we all feel a little guilty watching their private lives like that. at least we can try to stick to the point and be classy
@@kssgpv Um, no. Not everyone feels 'guilty watching'. I don't. What the hell for?
I agree with you. I also do not feel guilty, because these are public figures and they made it public anyway...
For me, this is a massive case study and I learned a lot from the law and psychology. And I am grateful for the opportunity.
I am learning so much from this too, i never thought I would have been watching this trial too
She's getting exactly what she deserves. People like her who lie about domestic/sexual abuse are sick and SHOULD go to prison. Those types of lies ruins the lives of their victims* and makes it harder for REAL victims to come forward.
I wish she would actually go to prison
Yup and just like his bodyguard/friend who passed away but is heard on tapes, said she was a spoiled brat. The woman has had no accountability for her actions walking around ruining people with her lies and abusing not just Johnny but her sister and previous spouse whom she was arrested and served a night in jail. But got her to recant later. Then getting caught in lies on the stand. Crying and no real tears. Wants her husband sober but tells him to bring wine and a joint. Does coke herself. Does she not know that addicts need zero tolerance to any drugs or alcohol. It was her controlling him like when he took his own shoes off and threw a fit. Too bad she couldn’t let well enough alone. He was trying to salvage a friendship and said he’d take care of her but she got greedy and hella vindictive.
I think anyone determined to be a sociopath needs to be put away somewhere, not necessarily punished but forced to live away from the rest of society. We lock up insane people who are a danger to others, whether they commit crimes or not. Sociopaths are a danger to everyone.
And do you think she will be charged and pay for this attempt to ruin an innocent persons life? Somehow I doubt it.
@@acegikm Mental health resources are slim, and narcissists and sociopaths do great harm to others. But I don't think they should be imprisoned. Not only is this not a crime - but would does not make them learn what they did was wrong- they would be blaming others. They should have to participate in a mandatory mental health deprogramming so they finally realize what they are, and finally be empathetic to others so that they don't harm again and finally empathically reflect on what they have done to their victims. Too much emphasis is put on putting people you don't like "in prison" - but there are ways to turn these bad people to different people.
He doesn't even look at her and you can tell it bugs her.
She's smart enough to know all the damage she did, he could have sued her for...he had to turn the tables quick- set him up to make Johnny look like he was the bad guy. It's the perfect narcissistic projection story. All the claims are actually "what amber did" to Johnny, plain, simple. You both said the things i felt and saw. I literally cried during much of the trial...especially after Camilles ending statements. So emotional.
Big thanks to Rob and Ian for doing overnights just to give us feedback on the jury and courtroom vibes. Big thanks to Spidey for the video and analysis from this trial!!!!!
Please spend your one life wisely.
Yes thanks Rob & Runkle
ThNk you for your time and information, Rob!
A bunch of the LawTubers were hit by YT last night while streaming! Joe and Runkle both got hit!
@@wldncrzy1971 I heard that. Would love if someone could figure out exactly why, did alot of AH fans report the videos? Or something else
When Rob spoke about Camille being an extension of Johnny and finally being able to be Johnny's voice in the face of his abuser, it really touched my heart. I'm a mother of three grown sons and during Johnny's testimony of his childhood, I just became so empathetic towards that five year old boy in him(and I'm Johnny's age!). I always look upon their "chemistry" solely as Csmille being in the defender, exposer, protector mode for him, not anything romantic. I subscribe to both of you. Thank you Law & Lumber Rob and Spidey 👌👌👏🏻👏🏻🙌🙌 I thoroughly enjoyed this collaboration!
Like a big sister defending their little brother
Absolutely! She's like his secret ninja sister no one knew Johnny even had and who has finally enough of that monster demeaning her brother. Back off my bro!!!
I agree, it’s like big sister love towards Johnny, playful, yet fiercely protective.
Exactly 😪🤧
When Rob said that I started crying. Utterly beautiful statement and sentiment.
I found it odd that she was even looking at the jury at all, and immediately was a problem for me, and I cannot understand that move and to me looks desperate and is almost fishing for support. I wasn't sure what to think about much until I believe she totally revealed herself when she was called to the stand and this ensued.
Honestly it was embarrassing, maniacal, aggressive, and there was very little I could trust that came out of her mouth. Stop looking at the jury for every answer you give Amber. Stop. It is incredibly nauseating.
What is even worse is she is allegedly a "professional actor", and nothing felt genuine or honest, ans because of that, the weight of my reaction was amplified against her when nothing added up or made logical sense. It felt like a child with chocolate all over their mouth, is explaining all the reasons they couldn't have eaten the birthday cake from grandma, and double down by crying and begging w/ crocodile tears and then an immediate switch to anger when there is no other place to go and boxed in by the truth.
At 21:14 : when you say she’s looking left at her lawyers, I also thinks she looks at the judge. i noticed Amber did this twice during the trail, both times after she became very emotional and “crying” during one of her stories. Like she wants attention and confirmation from the judge. Hoping judge will intervene, saying “poor thing, are you ok? Do you need a break?”. What’s hilarious is, that when the court actually takes a break after AHs sob fest, the judge goes (really happy) “aaalright, let’s go and take our lunch break”. Judge is not impressed by AH! 😂
I started crying when you said about Johnnys attorney being his shield and sword. I think it’s not just Camille, it Ben Chu and all of them. They’re serving as his Armor and army as he faces the worst part of his life. I wish every victim having the privilege to have such excellent defenders.
no front at all : u are one uuuunstable individual if that makes you cry
So beautifully said ❤. I cried too. This was epic and I'm grateful to Camille, she was like an angel defending Johnny. This is something you can't buy with money
I agree wholeheartedly and it would be amazing if all victims could have this kind of defenders. One thing I would like to say is even someone as famous, rich and seemingly surrounded by security falls victim to the like of someone so full of hate, jealousy and aggression and a all round grifter. She is mentally unstable. The damage amber herd has done for all the victims men woman and children is sickening. How can anyone think they have a chance when you see how difficult it is to do so when you have the means. Justice for Johnny, Justice for all.
We’ve all wanted someone to be our shield and sword at some point in our lives. It was touching that she fought so hard for him.
@@dodge5570 you just don’t get it. sad for you.
As a woman who supports female victims of abuse, it is so hard for me to believe Amber Heard. I feel as if I am watching a Soap Opera Daytime TV Show with a very bad actress who is over-acting. In other words, it's like watching a Drama Queen. Intuitively, I do NOT feel believable 'vibes' of trauma due to domestic abuse, from Amber. She is unbelievable.
that's the whole problem - she's acting. it's all an act. and a bad one. there are so little genuine emotions you would expect from a person with trauma.
100% agree with you. Feel the same way. Like watching a lousy actress audition for a B-movie. Trying too hard to show emotion and visibly over acting = being dishonest.
Drama Queen that is the best description of her. She is the embodiment of that.
She's unbelievable yes :D
She had been caught in so many lies you don't have to try to read her vibes... just listen to the recordings and then her own lies in the court.
I like to think like a juror. When I saw her response to the photo of JD “passed out,” my thought is “his head is in a book case and you’re taking a photo? Help him!! Be a WIFE and help him.
Camille has the biggest heart, is fierce, extremely smart and badass at the same time!!! You got to love her ! She truely cares and gives her all!!
The difference is I feel - Johnny is trying to finally tell his story. Amber is trying to convince people of her story.
Perfect summation! Couldn’t agree more! Yep
@@kathleencastle8631 he probably just wanted it all to be over and finally get away from her and when she wouldn’t stop with the defamation he chose to press charges
I could be wrong tho, not sure
I just need someone to point out the crying without tears, without redness in the face. I’ve never seen a person try to fake an ugly cry as poorly as she did in this trial on so many occasions.
A lot of people are pointing that out.
Lots are - including Johnny’s lawyer in closing arguments talking about testimony from Amber’s acting coach about her acting crying.
And in their divorce meet up in San Francisco ...as soon as he put down the phone to his lawyers she started with the whining, wheedling and fake crying. I think at one point it mustve worked on johnny cos hes an empath but not anymore. Shes a nasty manipulative piece of work. I wish I was in the slug n lettuce e in Sheffield sunday night.😭😭😭
I was extremely satisfied with her pointing it out during closing arguments. Up until then- in court - I hadn’t seen anyone pointing it out and it’s been bothering me through the entire trial. 😂
Amber Heard literally wiped her eyebrows when she fake cried. Watch the clip, it's terrible acting.
"she has a misconception/delusion of how effective she is...."
That's the understatement of the year!
"Don't call me a liar so I could lie to you endlessly" lol
Can’t blame the jury for disconnecting with Amber. It’s creepy how she always abruptly shifts her gaze to the jury for the answer and whips back to her counsel for the next question. It really didn’t feel like she was seeking empathy. It still reeks of arrogance and aggression. I’d look away if I were the jury! 🤪
Exactly. The difficulty is that they need to watch her, to determine if she's telling the truth. But how can you, when she is staring at you? Even when she is not speaking, she does it. When the lawyers approach the judge, is the worst time. She scans them constantly, looks away, then does it again & again. They must feel so uncomfortable. She even smiles at one of them occasionally, so she is definitely trying to connect with them & it shouldn't be allowed.
@@gaysy1st she's so naturally unlikable uncomforting and creepy
If you watch her. Not only is she seeking empathy but she *naturally* has a lot of arrogance and aggression so she's basically fighting between all those feelings. She also is trying to manipulate the audience and keep control of herself etc etc etc. She has a lot going on.
Yep. Exactly the way someone with a personality disorder acts!
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How stupid does she think people are? She’s on tape admitting to hitting Johnny, on tape mocking Johnny, on tape telling him nobody would believe him, and she thinks we are just going to hear that and then disregard it because she says “I could never hurt Johnny”?
I like the penthouse bed picture. They wrecked the whole penthouse, needed a knife to destroy the bed and they forgot to hide it before taking the picture so you can see the damn switchblade ON THE BED lol
She is not out of the barn yet... long way to go..poor girl
I had a job in a library where i had to cofront people eating. Talking or being in the phone. I would see them . When i would speak to them would deny. Even the they knew i saw. "No i didn't "
With today's civilization there's no telling. Even with all this evidence there's big possibility they will let her off, especially since she went and literally pulled a baby out of the hat, just grasping at anything to help her look better or give her an advantage. Her having a baby now and with being a new mom will have leverage. They won't want to see a single mother sued and go broke and she knows that. And yes i do honestly believe she is that messed up to do something like that. Master manipulator.
Yes... that's exactly what she thought.
The genuine protective and nurturing aura that Camille gives off is so satisfying to see. She is exactly the kind of support that Johnny needs.
You got to have your head in the Sand not to see she is A Pathological liar .And she is a Very Sad Sad Woman
If you've ever been in a narcissistic relationship, you know how incredibly rewarding it was to watch Camille NOT LET HER GO. So validating for JD. I'm so happy for him.
I had absolutely zero interest when this all first began, I never thought this would make me feel validated, heard, and not alone as a male who was hit, kicked between the legs, by a woman who has been in abusive relationships, and has done all this “self care therapy” which consists of Tiktok feminist, mental abuse to make me apologize for her hitting me, just disgusting things, mind twisting things.
@@nc240coupe im so sorry you had to go through that🤍
@@hughmungus431 I did see the abuse her ex put her through, I even actually had tuned him up a bit one night I had heard of it. However into my relationship with this female it had become apparent she was very much the instigator and abuser, which abuse is not justifiable at all, but I also see why she had abusive relationships, and in all honesty I forgive her, she needs therapy/counseling and it apparent by anyone who knows her, the problem is she is in denial and it’s all everyone else’s problem. Pretty twisted.
It’s funny, the “proof” she has of absolutely anything, hasn’t been admitted to evidence. I’m almost 1000% sure, lawyers wouldn’t withhold vital evidence 🤷♀️
The only reason her “strongest” evidence wasn’t submitted was because she had tampered with, augmented, and EDITED every last image.
Regardless, she’s thrown her own lawyers under the bus and has lost the case. I’m so happy for Johnny and excited for his win!!
That's one of the many reasons this case throws me off. She testifies that she produced every record and photograph, that allegdly proof all of the physical abuse.
And yet, not one of those "many" were officially submitted to the jury.
Sure, some were, but according to her testimony it should have been a shitton more. And the ones that were shown were, frankly, not really convincing. Like the ones that were submitted to the jury, were either weeks old (allegedly, again) or an exageration of the lighting.
Like, there is nothing about black eyes, broken noses, scars, holes. Nothing that severe. She took photos of everythign related to Depp and his escapades, but she didn't find the time to take photos of her oh so serious injuries after several weeks, or when they were nearly healed? That doesn't sit right to me.
Also the fact that she didn't get medical attention. Sure, for some bruises, you might just choke it up and put some makeup on. For a make-believe string woman and actress, I assume there is something more to her than most other abuse victims, right? But why the hell wouldn't she get treatment for a believed broken nose. An injury that couldn't even be captured hours later on a gala meeting by paparazzi? No shot.
I can believe that she probably got hit by stuff (be it herself or really JD). And maybe (!) JD DID hit her once or twice. But to the extreme extent she blows this story up? No way in hell this happened.
Exactly... I can't believe Camille didn't flat out ask her if it was her testimony that she believes her lawyers are withholding evidence from the jury that would prove her testimony to be true & where are the ring marks/imprints that would've most definitely been left behind after even the smallest contact... none of those "bruises" have anything close to reassembling a ring of any shape...
@@tatemitchell1479 Even the evidence she submitted was heavily tampered with. Like the supposedly shot with different lighting, were actually the exact same picture with different saturation. People have put both photos through photoshop and it matches, pixel for pixel.
A bee 🐝
Watching this after having stood criminal trial and then winning the largest civil federal lawsuit I have learned so much about my own testimony. When I was getting ready to testify in federal court my attorney did NO prep with me ahead of time. On the day I testified my attorney went like this “Miss KELLEY do you remember January 9 1998? I said yes and he said “tell the jury what happened beginning from that night. Then my attorney just stood there and I began telling my story of years of stalking and abuse. Watching this I realized some things. I don’t remember actually looking at the jurors. I simply remember staring straight ahead and for two days I told every single event. Truth is I couldn’t look at the jury while I was testifying to horrific events my family and I endured. I was embarrassed to have to tell people “yup this was our life daily for years “ cause who lives through constant harassment and stalking. I’d love to know what spidey and Dave would think of my testimony on the stand. I guess it went ok. My attorney Leonard Kesten won Lawyer Of The Year for my case. And we won the largest federal civil lawsuit ever recorded by judge Young.
(Time stamp 18:43 ) I felt the same and immediately flashed to Mr. Chew during his closing rebuttal. I was listening to the arguments while playing a game and my heart broke. I immediately switched over to the video when I heard his voice change. You could hear how sincere his hurt was. He took a moment to compose himself, because he knew it wasn't about his feelings, and he wanted them to know that. He didn't want to "put on a show." His emotion was real. His sorrow for what Johnny had gone through, knowing that Johnny's fate was now in the juries hands and he could do no more... heart breaking😔
When someone in an interrogation or on the stand resorts to, "I 'could' never 'hurt' him/her", I see it as an admittance of guilt. Jodi Arias "could never hurt" Travis, but she could certainly stalk him, steal from him, vandalize and break into his property, then kill him 3 different ways and leave him in his own shower to decompose. But she "could never hurt him". This is guilty, minimizing language.
Exactly.
Nice references 👌 I could Never hurt you is said by murders.. especially of love/lust crimes ... just a random girl who watches way to much true crime lol xx
Ooohhhh facts. I dnt think I've ever said that. I'm learning, keep teaching.
@@pattihiggins1079 YES.!!!!!!!!!!
@@pattihiggins1079 and Camille is our Juan Martinez ... taking it right to Amber Turd and not letting her get away with her BS.
I would feel so uncomfortable as a juror if a witness tried to lock eyes with me constantly. I feel like it ok to glance at them every now and again but it feels to me that she is desperately trying to control what she can instead of admitting to herself she doesn’t have any control here.
I know.
Oh my gosh, ditto. I keep saying that. If I were a juror, I would feel so uncomfortable with her continuing to try to lock eyes.
So true!
I wonder if she was maybe told to talk to the jury, to kind of pull them into her story, and it is a bit of a labour for Ms. Turd. If so, that was bad advice, it's bombing out.
I live in small county with a small jury pool, so am called every 13 months. I've been on multiple juries, and I have to say, I find it very uncomfortable when anyone involved looks my way. I don't even like the attorneys coming over for closing arguments. I want to feel like I'm an objective observer of the whole thing, so breaking that invisible wall and looking into the jury box feels like an unnatural attempt to suck me into the action. It has kind of a used car salesman vibe. There are a few people where it is obvious that's just how they communicate in a room. They aren't consciously doing it. But those are very few.
I am just angered and... Bewildered. If she is really a victim, why all those lies? She could have just stuck with the truth.
Women like her are a shame for all women and all victims of abuse. How dare she?!
I also feel for men who are wrongly accused and/or victims of violence.
Hmm, yes, that's what I've been trying to say. Yes. She's playing it out, but we ain't buying it. Not by any means. Fr rl. Yes, she's daring to lie on the stand for the money. It's just for the money. I am very ashamed of her. How dare she pull this. I agree. Been saying it over my house. Yes. I can't believe she wld dare to do this to other females. Makes me so mad. God. Ik, I'm with u. I am.
I think she shld go to jail for this. All this lying. I do. But ofc they won't send her there. Oh no, too horrible a place. Hey it might be best for her. It won't change her crap tho. She needs jail time for perjury. Ik I'm rt, but they won't do that. Nope. And this judge is rlly soft. Or may just come out looking like it. Idk. I'm just not sure yet. But yah.
That's because she's not a victim, she's a liar, she is the abuser! That's why I said, she should go to jail for what she's done. Why have a law that says if you lie on stand it's punishable by jail time? And if we don't actually do anything when someone does lies on the stand, then what the fuck is the law for? And there's no doubt in my mind and apparently thousands of other people's minds, that she is perjuring herself on that stand! Her and her sister are LIARS!!
I had an awesome lawyer once. She had a cop completely contradicting himself on the stand destroying his case against me. She was a former prosecutor and I was one of her first defense clients so the rates were reasonable. She was the goat imo. We actually won the case based on the Ascoff precedence. A ruling that came down the day before my trial. It was ruled my right to a speedy trial was violated. Had that ruling not come down we were winning anyway
Wow, yeah, imagine being a juror and realizing that AH is lying and you’re losing weeks of your life that you can’t get back because of her lies. I would give her nasty looks too
Yeah. When she just completely ignores Camilles question "Is that a yes?" and interrupts her and carries on. I'm glad they are smart enough to know that's a clear sign she's lying. I would completely ignore her if she did that in front of me too. They probably just wanted to hear her admit it and say yes, all she did was ask "So you decided to take a picture of Mr. Depp on the floor?" That question in itself doesn't need a defensive answer so she sounds like a fool being so defensive over a yes/no question.
Those jurors are not waiting their time. They are doing the work to set something right. Justice for Johnny comes from those jurors. I'm no religious person. However if there are sacred things, jury duty is one of them
I used to be a juror and I honestly despised it when the criminal would constantly look at us to see our reactions.
I felt sorry for the jury
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It’s also weird that she was emotional during questioning from her attorney but from cross examination she wasn’t. Someone that’s usually gone through trauma would have the same emotional state through both types of questioning.
Same with her ex BFF Rocky. Completely dull talking to JD's team and then a sudden switch to fake crying with AH's team.
Probably more so. If you are genuine, feeling attacked or disbelieved is devastating
Yes totally agree!
Absolutely!
Good point!
I watched a lot of this trial and one of the parts that shocked me the most was the “professionals” and “experts”. It is crazy How they can tell a story disregarding the facts. I guess Amber is not the only person losing her carrier.
? Elaborate please?
Just highlights how primitive our human minds can be, it's so easy to be narrow minded but to act noblely not just for your family but for, in the end, a better world , is still difficult enough for most of us to cause so many problems.
One would think the amount of money that the"expert witnesses" were being paid, they would not be so easily disapproved. Score another point for Depps team.!
Career.
Camille as an empath and sword and shield for JD was the most heart-wrenching and awakening comment. She knows he's fragile, that he's being abused and that he's damaged. She also truly believes that he has been wronged and wants to help him get it all out in public to get his reputation back and to be vindicated. Never about money for him -- he did however want / need to have the whole story told for reasons I mentioned before. What a sad sad state of affairs and I hope that there is much healing in his future after this - win or lose, his truth and story have gotten out after all these years.
i don't think Camille is an empath. empaths have very poor emotional boundries. she was very assertive with amber. perhaps the word ypu're lookinfg for is empathetic or compassionate.
AMEN!!!!!
She wasn't this emotional 6 years ago, she seemed pretty aggressive and annoyed and smirky during her deposition back then while being interviewed in a room, now she's so emotional, knowing she has a huge audience, not just the people in the court room but the jury and those watching through the media. As they explained it, as much as she tries to look emotional it still comes through as aggressive.
Her behaviour has changed before and after her week away, she's more sassy and aggressive now but was initially emotional, without any tears
Her emotions seem too forced.... to be real
Her earlier deposition is biting in her back..aggression ,eating and talking with food in mouth and smirking and all those low class behaviour..
So she is now trying to play underdog
Jurors saw that tape too.
Not crying in 2016, the year of your divorce, but crying in 2022, 6 years later, seems contrived to me too. When hurt is fresh, you cry. When the hurt is older, you've had time to reflect, crying should be minimal.
I don’t think I could have handled being a juror in this case. I would have run out of the room screaming because I couldn’t stand all of Amber’s lies and her self-righteous attitude!
If you feel like that I bet more than one juror does also. They're not stupid.
i have exactly the same thoughts
I was thinking the same thing today. But honestly after watching this on RUclips it's put me off having a relationship with a woman again.
If I was a juror, I'd be like...."We're ready to deliberate now, judge!!!"
What I don't understand how anybody thinks it's actually possible that these jurors are not seeing any news and they're not talking to anybody who discusses the trial like unless they keep them hold up in a hotel under watch for I247 how does anybody believe that that's really possible?
28:48 The way Camille conducted this cross examination was as if she already anticipated exactly what each successive answer would be and she was ready in a nanosecond with the next question.
I am an abuse survivor and work with domestic violence victims and one of my roles is to act as a victims advocate in court. I accompany the victim to court for support in their testimony or in some cases I will have to speak on their behalf. And in my over 15 years of attending hundreds of court proceedings, I have never ever seen a real domestic violence victim constantly looking at anyone else let alone a jury in the court room especially, when recounting their abuse stories. They will often look down or their eyes will will not focus on anything if their head is not pointed downwards. They are too traumatized to even be sitting there recounting their abuse stories to let alone look at anyone or want anyone to look at them.
So, as soon as I saw Amber's testimony, it only confirmed for me what I already suspected, Amber Heard is no victim of domestic violence. She is the abuser here. And she is a disgrace to all real domestic violence victims no matter the gender. #JusticeForJohnnyDepp
Yes 🙌🏼 #JusticeforJhonnyDepp 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
It's disgusting, she looks so sure of herself. Someone who could put themselves in the shoes of a victim just knows how impossible is that to happen, even if she has the right to act like that because she was abused, but that doesn't matter because she dind't even seem like she was saving it up since long, we have that video of the cabinets and she dind't look a bit scared
THIS! THIS!
#amberturd
@@ketokeko when I was going through my hell, the VERY last thing I’d do is rile my perp up! It blew my mind when they played the audio of AH taunting JD…I literally felt my heart jump in my chest…that sharp adrenaline rush… I could picture her getting in his face. Damn that woman lying, using our torture to get attention and destroy an American icon.
I totally get Camille’s final reaction after questioning Amber. Not only is she absorbed in defending her client to the best of her ability but, her professional skills and reputation are aired worldwide and therefore are at stake. This trial is going to be studied, for years to come, at and by many law schools; this is huge in terms of how the justice system works and how people’s behavior can break or make a person. I can imagine that psychologists and psychiatrists are having a field day.
You overvalue two weird abusers' inability to break up in two hours not many years
I agree. It dawns on me, Miss Heard can be verily disqualified because of her discrepancies during her testimony. I don't think this trial meets the threshold to become a jurisprudence case. There is nothing special about this case. Fortunately, the truth is coming out. I salute Mr. Depp for his resilience throughout his life with Ms. Heard, and the ongoing trial. I wish justice will prevail.
@#PrisonForJohnnyDepp honest question, how do you believe Amber Heard and condemn Johnny Depp?
I’ve been watching The Behaviour Panel 3 & 4. Everyone following the case should watch them both.
Just made a similar comment! You are spot on, camille is masterful in the courtroom.
This may have already been touched on but I truly believe this person continues to be dangerous, very dangerous. If she loses she'll become even more dangerous. She thinks she has gone through what Johnny has financially but she hasn't. She thought she received the upper hand because of the case in the UK. I hope her legal team are preparing her for the possibility of a loss and that Johnny's bodyguards are prepared for anything. ✝️🕊️
Wow Spidey what a GREAT guest this attorney was… He is so professional, so intelligent, oh and not too bad to look at 😂😂😂… love love love this episode ❤
Camille was so passionate for her defense of proving Johnnys innocence… it moved me to tears several times watching this trial 😢
Look… I’m going to be honest…. Listening to Amber is like listening to nails on a chalkboard…. This is exactly how crazy I felt dealing with my narcissistic mother… The way this case has emotionally messed with my head…. I cannot.
Same here!!
Same! Listening to Amber actually affects me in a negative way- I had to stop listening several times and walk away.
Same. I fast forward her.
Yes definitely find myself nothing short of triggered throughout...and at the same time highly invested in the outcome just for that reason. I take breaks often and go between processing resurfacing thoughts/emotions/experiences and just thinking of nothing at all
Its weird i felt that too.... When She Talk ,its like my body and mind reject it... I have to mute her many times.
She'll never understand how bad she fucked her whole life up from her lies. She'll forever blame other people. She could've had such a great successful happy life, but she couldn't just help herself.
She is mentally unwell. As much as I hate her, I think her psychoses guaranteed she would get herself into a situation like this. It's why she has no close friends, all her Instagram posts are of her alone, or with her baby that she paid someone else to have. She needs serious psychological help but her narcissism means she never believes anyone who points out a serious flaw
In 20 years we'll have another 'Mommy Dearest' being released from Ambers' daughter.
yeh she'll go back to stripping because Hollywood is done with her !
@@staceyy6064 That's so, so sad. I wished someone saved that child.
You are right people will blame others, I think that there's someone who gave this dummy a dumb idea to create stories so she can make some money or sympathy, fame etc. However somehow it just didn't work as planned coz JD didn't stay quiet and stood for himself and his entire career. After all he achieved in his life he wouldn't want to retire in bad note. JD is clean, it's very evident.
Yay! A video on this from Spidey!!!! I noticed her eyes scanning the jury, trying to see if anyone was connecting with her. I’m 100% sure that if she found that person, she’d have locked on and begged them with her eyes to believe her. I’ve seen abusers at work many a time, lying through their teeth with their great big acts
She kills me. When she said she didn't want to hurt him, is another one of her Blatant Lies, because she Intended to hurt him in the Worst, Lowest and most Despicable way, of what she accused him of, which was a Total Blatant Lie.
She really should stop with all of her phony pretend dry eyed crying with NO TEARS. It just Astounds me, at what a Contentious and Deviant Manipulator she is. I truthfully have NEVER personally encountered any one else like her, and I hope I NEVER do.
When she says “I could never hurt Johnny” means in her mind, when she hits/punches, kicks, etc him..it didn’t hurt him. In her recording when she said she didn’t punch him, she hit him..she says he’s “not hurt, babe, you’re fine”. She’s playing in words, twisting the truth and just plain GASLIGHTING whoever she can. Horrible.
I perceived that phrase as a note to the fact that he knows the truth and his own value and her value and that he could never truly take anything in that she does.
Secondly she knows that she could never hurt him like a parent...his mother could do to him as she did. Because Amber is just a partner and the worst one at that.
He had many positive relations before Amber to base her against.
She needs a professional psychiatric assessment not psychological...
It really does sound like she was gaslighting everyone in the court when confronted with evidence right in front of her omg..
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I think in her mind as a narcissist is that women are fragile and men are tough and basically views herself as this special thing that is fragile and everything other people do will hurt her and other people need to attend to her needs. She's been coddled her entire life and basically views men as tools rather than someone who could also have emotional needs because she selfish.
My body rejects Amber when she speaks! My sister and I have a borderline narc mom (diagnosed) and are consumed with this trial! It’s chilling to hear and see Amber on the stand and on recordings. I’m taking this trial personal having lived through this kind of abuse!
Same but I have a borderline narc baby mom. A lot of this has given me anxiety and bad flashbacks. It’s to relatable.
❤❤❤ sending you some love and strength.
Narc abusive ex husband... I can't listen to her testimony . I can take small clips but thats it. I listened to everything Johnny said.
I could only watch the first 30 minutes or so of amber heards day 1 testimony while live for this reason! I was under the care of my aunt for about 7-8 years (from 7 years old to 15), and the way amber spoke, her body language, it brought me right back to that bad place and I had a panic attack. I couldn't focus on anything, wasn't even able to read the comments because I was so trapped in my head... like I was that small again. It gave me SUCH a huge relief to know that others are seeing something off with amber too. It makes me feel like maybe I'm not making up/exaggerating things in my head, and that I had a real reason to escape. There might be a reason us former victims have a strong reaction to her.(amber h)
Same. And I’ve not experienced any of this.
you two need to report on more court cases like this! so informative and entertaining! thankyou!
Wow, hearing the real perspective of the jury is so impactful. This is a show within a show…I’m so relieved, because I was hoping the jury was experiencing what I would expect. They saw right through Amber antics…
Impressed how much Rob watches the body language and how analytic he is - much respect!!!
He’s honestly better at it than a lot of analysts who have studied nothing but body language. I was blown away!
@@TheBehavioralArts That's a huge compliment coming from you!🤗
@@TheBehavioralArts dont interrupt impolite y know
@@ayx1567 it was a conversation, he is the body language expert. Some people always need to find something to whine about.
@@TheBehavioralArts it was such a fun discussion! I loved the back and forth!
The fact that the judge in England upheld her accusations and denied Johnny's lawsuit is DISGUSTING!!!
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YES! Totaly agree! Who paid him off??
@@verasreckovic4443 Elon more than likely. It's sickening.
I'm British 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 & I'm disgusted by our judicial system.
@@mjchiwara I love England, but I can't stand this judge. Is it that way across the board in the judicial system usually or is this a one off thing? I am hoping the latter.
Virginia will have 0 retroactive impact on🇬🇧miscarriage of justice.
This trial has restored my faith in humanity. I now see how many people cannot, and will not, be manipulated by someone who lacks empathy. Millions of people see right though the lies, through all the bullshit…and that feels good.
Sadly, there are still many people who believe her lies.
This analysis of the jury makes total sense to me, as I have watched the trial it is very hard for me to look at her when she is testifying, it s like looking at a B actress B low budget film that it’s so bad that it has the opposite effect of what the actor is trying to project, you just want to laugh...she is acting, badly, but acting...if she was telling the truth no acting would be necessary ...I don’t understand how the jury could not come up with a verdict within 1 hr and went home Friday with no verdict 🧐
What Rob says is exactly the reason why I chose to become an attorney in litigation practice, to speak for those who can't speak for themselves. I did and still do a fair bit of pro bono work because of this reason. There has to be this sense of justice and fairness to essentially be a good attorney in my opinion.
Regardless of the comments we get as attorneys, the good ones always remember why they do what they do!
That is so nice of you♥️
Thank you for your service!
My favorite part of cross examination was when Camille asked Amber…
“You testified that you wanted to file for the restraining order as discreetly as possible with no press”
Amber replied ..”that is correct”.
Then she showed a photo of Amber that day on the court house steps, surrounded by press; with a bruise on her face.
Camille the replied…” What…. No makeup kit that day “…?!
not to mention, paparazzi don't just hang around courthouses all day. someone had to call them there!
Oh you missed the best line. Camille: So you had a photo shoot inside the court house?
@@pasaniusventris4113 Exactly! Watch the video of her deposition accidentally spilling about TMZ being alerted that day during the cross-examination. Amber is very cunning and manipulative.
@@bnd123us hahah that one was great! Asking: "so you just decided to have a photo-shoot in courthouse hall while you were obtaining a TRO" ? haha :p
the way AH keeps twisting the phrasing of questions with her answers while in the meantime acting as if what she is saying is all so obvious and logical (tho it really isn't), makes me anxious for the outcome. ANYone would clearly say she is full of BS and lying about practically everything, and JD is always believable and feels like telling the truth. But because these stories are so obvious not working on her side and are so strange, yet she doesnt seem worried or ashamed at all.... it's so freaky to see someone lie like that.
@@HopefulInterventions the fact that she literally pulled her hands up to cover up those words and stop herself was insane. you could see just how much she didn't mean to say that, and that's because she knew just how bad it would make her look.
I love when Rob said, about Camille, "She feels something in Amber she needs to EXPOSE." Excellent observation!!!
I just hope the jury sees through her bad acting and lies. They can’t be the only 7 people in the world that believe her!
14 people
It's a civil trial, so there only 7 jurors
It's been really odd to see how many in mainstream media take Amber's side. I shutter to think how much the world would know if the only coverage of the trial came from mainstream media. The coverage of this trial has made it clear that mainstream media doesn't care about the truth
As a DV survivor, the turtle response makes sense and I still do that when I remember what happened... I feel physical disgust seeing what AH is doing.
Yep, Turd is damaging the credibility of every future victim of actual DV with her gold digging, clout chasing plan. Utterly disgusting.
Yes. We all do. What she does is dominate, even in her "retelling" of what happened. As survivors, we were being dominated. And, PTSD is always reliving it, not just retelling it. She can't hide that she feels self-righteous and entitled to her outrage, a sign of her cruelty and validation of who is the actual abuser.
I’ve been constantly tearing up while watching this trial. I know what JD felt, and the worst is that he wanted to move on and she wouldn’t stop abusing him even after the divorce. Narcissists never let go of their “possessions”.
Same here. It feels like shes damaging the credibility of real female DV victims. The sight of her makes me feel sick. She is a vile human being.
Yes, me to!
Idk why I love that he pointed out Camille’s nerves and her settling herself but it is the most adorable and admirable thing in the world. She knew this moment was paramount and she was able to soothe herself, stay strong, and deliver a phenomenal cross. I love her.
That’s a amazing, I thought the same, Camille and the rest of Depps legal team are absolutely killing it!
If someone giving testimony keeps looking at me as a juror trying to solicit my sympathy, I'd be very annoyed and look the other way,
I fully believe Johnny. I’d be miserable and terrified if I ever had to live with someone like AH again (unfortunately I’ve also experienced it). But why are there only 3 females, versus 6 males in the jury stand? (Edited to add: I loved both your analyses, thank you for the fantastic video. And I loved to hear the attentive, detailed inside scoop by Rob!)
Jurors are selected randomly, then the attorneys on both sides get the chance to voir dire (question) the jurors as to their suitability to serve on the jury. They can dismiss jurors they don’t like, then the selection process starts again.
Yes very attentive, but I also.asked the same why only three female jurors
If Depp loses , I’ve lost hope in the justice system
@@brendanmiller6137 Depp will lose #BelieveAllVVahmxn
@@wshyangify lol Believe Wymen
Insanely good video, Rob is now a litigator, woodworker and behavior analyst all in 1,Spidey can't wait to see your full analysis, keep up the good work
It's pretty entertaining to see him start a RUclips channel, with his first video getting close to 1 million views, and already hitting 100k subs himself. Rob deserves it.
@@crashboredom2 yeah, he rocks, there's no coincidence there at all
@@crashboredom2
He certainly nailed that wooden-bed story to the floor.
Agreed. Rob "the great observer"
Last night in Nick show we learn Rob also brew is own beer.
Hearing about the jurors body language, it makes so much sense now that she booked it out the courtroom after getting off the stand before the jury was even dismissed. She was angry at them just as much as she was at her attorneys and johnny and his attorneys. She knew her lawyers were losing and everyone else was hostile towards her position, including the spectators
that explains why she bolted out.
Think you are right. She's pissed off because she thought she was convincing
I must have missed that! Was it right when she got off the stand?
@@skwerl81 yes it was. The judge asked her to take a seat next to her attorney's and she bolted for the door behind the judge. As she was walking towards the door the Judge said, "okay ladies and gentlemen, let's take our a break." You could tell AH was livid.
@@skwerl81 judge told her to go over to her team, so the jury could leave. Amber walked past them, veered left and out the door
Johnny always addresses her as Ms. Heard (respect), but Amber addresses him as Johnny rather than Mr. Depp (disrespect).
If the jurors are every day people like us..there's no way they aren't feeling and seeing how Toxic and Cruel AH is. If they find JD guilty...................I can't even.
They saw it! Anyone with eyes can see it, thankfully.
She ALWAYS has to have the last word until she's ordered to stop. she's INFURIATING. the constant jury watching is doing her no favours and I could imagine is very uncomfortable for them being constantly looked at by that psycho.
*She ALWAYS has to have the last word until she's ordered to stop. she's INFURIATING.*
Very typical of a narcissist.
@@metarugia3981 narcissist SOCIOPATH(narcopath)
Whenever she is looking at the jury, it’s the look of predator at her prey.
It's almost like someone told her to look at them every time she spoke. I agree, if it were me sitting there, it would have the opposite effect.
Johnny is honestly lucky to be alive.
Observation: In a juror's eyes, having a male lawyer go after Heard may seem like bullying, but, if Heard's adversary is female, then it certainly is a fair fight. Let the females go at it. And Vasques did and she won easily.
One thought I had about the # of males on the jury - an excuse for not winning.
@@pookiepookie8669 True, but she'd invent any excuse for not getting her way, regardless
That's a really good point, I hadn't thought of that
@@pookiepookie8669 I thought the same thing. But I also think she may possibility blame her teams incompetence, which they don’t have a lot to work with; either way she is going to claim something if he wins.
Calculated move, team Depp
Absolutely fascinating discussion and observation. I was intrigued to know how the jury was reacting. Now I know. The photo of Johnny broke me. She wanted to humiliate him. What I felt was sorrow and extreme sadness for him. Lying on the floor in an almost fetal position told me a lot. Also told me a lot about her!!!!!!
If Johnny doesn’t win I will lose hope for our legal system.
What an awesome commentary. When you described Camille Vasquez as JD's shield and sword, a light turned on in my head. There is a Greek saying "Scratch a mother, find a tiger." I have had conversations with gentle women who are shocked at how fierce and unstoppable they can be. In Camille, we see the archetypal mother defending her child, and when we consider that both she and JD are gentle people, and JD's mother failed to provide safety, we see how a strong attachment can form. We also hear the archetypal mother in Camille's scolding of AH, which if she would just listen, is a gift.
*** I see a few people have made my post about God v no-God. I think one of the lessons of this trial has been how abusive it is to silence someone else's voice. So let's listen to each other kindly and allow everyone to have their truth. Let's make the space between us a safe place.
Certainly she has this wisdom from God .she is a 🎁 God bless her for be a good lawyer .all those hired her they feel protected cuz 100 % she take cases like she feel in her hearts. They are telling the true and accepted those kind of cases.
@@rosalainz2165 I love this. Reason is that earlier I was praying to God to protect Johnny because the two most important women in his life failed him. And now I just remembered that God uses PEOPLE, and that's how He's already doing it.
So well said. You should right a book with that as a title. I would read it. Very powerful concept to visualize.
I love that "scratch a mother, find a tiger" 💜
@@PatchaChel thank you for your encouraging words. Writing is something I enjoy xx
As a 15 year veteran Superiour Courtroom Clerk, I am loving this. Camille is doing great and really getting under Amber's skin. I keep waiting for Amber to break and loose her shit. Amber's performance in court is so telling and so fake. Would love to hear your take on Amber's BS reaction when Johnny was approaching the stand & she backed away like she was so scared. I am a bit suprised that she lets her run on with her answers but at the same time she could be letting her hang herself with her own BS. I have also NEVER seen a witness, especially one who purports to be a victim, look at and play to the jury so much.
AH thinks she's a fantastic actor...I auditioned for that part, I got that part myself. The jury can tell AH is lying and are tired of her fake actions and responses.
Loved your comment and I thank you for it.
Johnny for Win Win! UK🇬🇧.
I'm only seen Amber look rattled when they talked about her potential salary.
You shld watch the Jodi Arias trial - she also turned to talk directly to the jury! If you look at footage of police interview/arrest etc it's another case of lies, lies & more lies from start to finish.
Right?? Why does she need to look at jury every single answer? If she had some truth in her she don’t need exaggerate her facial expressions at then wich Isn’t natural anyways
Camille is a Valkyrie for Johnny . I am totally impressed with Robs insight in how Camille was used to get AH off -Gaurd and was his voice. It's clear Amber was always out to blackmail Johnny and Camille knows this .
Wow, watching this a year later you forget just how weird she was. What's with the Dr Evil outfit, what's she sueing for, 100 million dollars.