@@kohchungwei dembele is so useless on the brink of being a 24 year old.. huge spells of injury, terrible dribbler to say the least.. finishing is awful, passing is awful.. we need to sell him immediately
@@liam00 there research is also a bit sloppy. A video of haaland they said city or United will sign yet city won't sign him and whoever follows United knows haaland coming wont even paper the cracks for their problems
Koeman paid his way out from Netherlands NT contract with his own money (close to 7m Eu if I think) to became Barca's manager and he said to the club to not pay his wages yet. He even reportedly paid with his own money to go to Barca museum. Talking about legends here.
Koeman is a gentleman, an absolute legend. When he scored that goal in 1992 in Wembley I cried uncontrollably. I was 19, now 47, and the passion still burns deep inside.
@@kiriakoz Value if they've to sell a club today. Debt what you owe. Honestly the debt is not that much. Their main problem is that major payment is very close in near future and not in distant future. That's mostly because of dysfunctional signing of Dembele, Greizmann and Coutinho.
@@haoyuan5 in the story Jack and the Beanstalk, Jack’s mother tells him to take their only cow to sell at a market. But rather than sell the cow at the market for cash, he hands the cow over to a stranger for some “magic beans”. Which frankly could have been any old beans. This is a poor decision on Jack’s part, although in the context of the story the magic beans lead to untold riches for Jack and his mother.
@@ashleyburns6752 the stadium construction loan hampered everything... they lost the entire Invincibles and the greats like Fabregas to that eventually
@@ashleyburns6752 yes but they were pretty unlucky between August 2014 and May 2016, when they were last good enough to win a league title. after that arsenal's board became riskier in the market, which hasn't paid off with the pepe transfer the most obvious example
Stop using the “we need to pay off the stadium loan” excuse. Their books always showed a massive profit from 2006-2016. 4-5 big signings would not have killed them. Wengers ego got in the way. He though he could keep finding gems on the cheap like RVP, cesc, Adebayor, Henry, Ljungberg, Pires, Lehman but instead we got El Neny, Tomas Einsfeld, alumnia, Marouhane Chamakh, Yaya Sanogo
@SK - 08KJ 762349 Roberta Bondar PS agreed that's what us Barca fans need to acknowledge signing players is not the objective keeping messi is top priority but look what needs to happen alongside that as far as debt us concerned the club should not be splashing money, they should try to lower the wages of players this might be difficult considering that since the 4-1 defeat against psg Barcelona found a spark that fired them up players are motivated they seem to be on the right path as far as young talents go , dembele is showing some signs of success, pedri , de Jong and puig are l doing great , Ansu fati is key right now getting him back would be amazing, moriba has also been very good and of course mingueza and lenglet. Barca have problems buying the wrong players I mean they could've bought haaland but chose Kevin prince boateng... martin braithwaite is showing some stuff sort of like the paulinho factor
They should do a reform, normalize the player's wages as well as the transfer, rejuvenate the academy and Barca B functionality, sort out the unnecessary spending, etc. It'll be hard to do that while keeping up with Real Madrid at the same time, but sometimes that kind of radical move is what needed to "reset" everything onto the right path.
You think the issues are down to just one person? Barcelona have been a ticking disaster for the last three decades. These issues go right back into the 1990s.
@@bighands69 Back to the 90s? What are you talking about? Barcelona have been one of the most successful teams on the pitch and off the pitch since that time. And yes, The President of a club is accountable for all that goes on.
I love how superclubs see their debt problems and massive revenues and then think the solution is to get more money rather than managing or cut spending better
Combination of too big to fail and really financial bad management. This is a problem that is baked into modern Spanish culture. Which is a microcosm of the EU economy.
Cutting will lead to AC Milan - not always a smart idea. If you want to attract top players, you need top players in the team as well. You need to spend but spend wisely.
Well technically Messi his salary is the only one that is justifiable as they make more money on having him in the club on shirt sales and normally also ticket sales for people who want to see him play. The salary of other Barcelona players are way worse as they do not perform at all and just cost way too much money.
It is noteworthy that in their 2020 budget it was forecasted to, not only win the league, cup and reach quarter finals of the Champions League, but that their match day revenue would be back by september of last year. This means that they've overestimated thei budget by a lot, so when end-of-season comes their loses will be even greater
Barcelona had an average attendance of 53k in 2019 and they haven't been able to fill the stadium in years why the hell would they increase the capacity
@@anwan5 only in the big games so thats what 4 games a season maybe? And even than it's rarely sold out, it's been a problem here in Spain for awhile. Real Madrid have the same problem
@@anwan5 you said ucl? It depends on how far you go in the tournament mate, look it up if you think I'm making it up, pretty much every team in la liga is suffering from this
They wanted to compete with the super rich sugar daddy clubs so they spent what they needed to still be competitive. Maybe you might find it silly but socios were thrilled for years on end.
@Wizzer barca bought players like dembele who costed them around 140 million euros and Coutinho for 150 million euros. And if Coutinho plays his 100th game for barca then barca has to give additional 20 million cuz if the clause that was agreed. It was the total fault of the board. If a laporta would've been in charge of barça's presidency then no way barca would've been in debt.
@Wizzer You do realise that Messi isn't the only player that they're paying humongous wages to? The man is still netting goal left and right and singlehandedly generates 30% of the club's income. Barcelona's lackluster management is the reason for the debt.
Real Madrid is also in 900 Million debt(yet they are after big players). Atletico are in nearly 1 billion debt for a long time(yet they signed Felix) So Barca is the only team in debt is a myth almost every huge team are in somewhat big debt
@@fargo1234 Real Madrid’s debt is mostly the costs of renovating their stadium, which set them back by 650 million, and probably could be repaid quite easily if stadiums come back to full capacity
The problem is ,why waching football on tv? why to much person wacht only short video and not the full game?????this is the problem ,new generation of fans dont are fans!dont go in stadium ,are fans but dont make natig for the club ! etc etc etc ....to many say i am a fans ,and dont not the all player ,history money bilance etc... etc......and say i am a fans and dont no what is Cantera etc..........THE PROBLEM NOT ONLY FOR BARCA ,Football is a sport but now is only money is a show. Stop pay tv ,stop to sel in tv the game etc..... return to the football for a real fans e for Fans , this is the real way !!!!!!! adn the money change the fans to fake fans !fake fans =only person by one prodokt ! etc... etc... no dont have english in the school!
Yet nobody is talking about the systemic issues that are to be seen everywhere, on every level. Insane transfer fees, non-sustainable wages and (i.m.o. worst of all) banking of future success. All while youth systems are neglected by major clubs. It has become an industry that is dependent on loans, olicharchs and sheiks. Bound to collapse one day if this will continue.
@@bighands69 while I agree with you, banks in Spain will never take the risk of rejecting a club like Barca or demanding a sudden deposit of a couple of million euros. Just think of all the publicity that would generate, which could backfire harder on that bank than bending their rules for a football club. As crooked as that may be.
Valuations are deceptive - they represent all of the assets - including ones that are neccessary to run the org, like Camp Nou. Barca has a cash flow problem more than anything else
Most "valuable" because of the high wage contract most players have. Not surprising considering the fact that players like pique have lesser impact compared to they once did whilst still having such high wage contract valid.
@@WizoIstGott like who ? Lenglet and Dembele don’t really play. Griezmann usually plays well, when the whole team plays well. And it’s solely due to the fact that he takes more risks there. He shoots when he doesn’t even feel that he can score. With Barça, he never shoots even when he’s supposed to. And when he shoots, it’s usually because he can’t dribble and make himself closer to the net. And that’s our problem. We have 11 players who all depend on Messi’s genius vision and passing to be serviced closer to the opposition and score. (Except for Dembele when he sometimes takes on players, but his dribbles are useless. They never end in a creative pass).
@@kieronparr3403 We average 53k on stadiums every match, the debt can be overcome if stadiums get opened and we get a loan from a bank, worst case scenario I feel someone would buy us like how Abrahomovich did to Chelsea to save them from debt (Which wouldn't be pleasant too much but as I said it would be last chance)
Would love to know how Schalke have massively fallen from competing at the Champions League in 2018-19 after finishing 2nd the previous season, to now being rock bottom and having relegation seemingly inevitable with their own debt and having that 30-game winless run whilst sacking 4 managers. Would be interesting. Cheers
I'd say having 3 forwards that costs €400 mil that have yet to have consistent performances week in week out helped that too. Dembele Coutinho and Griezmann has been underperforming for way too long thus severely lowering their marketability and that also translates to Barcelona cannot make huge money of those 3. If Bayern had bought Coutinho back then, this could have been reduced but even Bayern did not see Coutinho as worth of spending €120 mil. Barcelona's marketability is exclusively because Messi is there. The moment Messi goes, all those sponsorships that came with Messi will all go away.
Nah they have some absolutely incredible youth players and Laporta seems to have a strategy of using them. I think they can keep up as a top team without any big money signings.
The thing is la Masia is probably the best football academy in the world, they have produced probably some of the best players not just of this era but some of the best players ever and if we go full on la Masia even for the next 10 years Barcelona can still maintain their standards, and looking at the talents we have coming out of the academy, as a barca fan I'm not worried at all.
The media and fans portrayed it as pure greed. In reality it’s more about financial survival. Also probably a part of the reason why the Bundesliga clubs didn’t join. They don’t need to. They are run conservatively and incredibly well for the most part (financially speaking).
@@SunsetSheen Correct for the first part, not so much for the second. Being soundly run isn't going to save German football clubs from being overpowered by the financial might of PSG and PL clubs. They may still generate profits but will ultimately be unable to compete for European glory. Television money is the only stream that keeps growing, yet it's now growing as much for the Bundesliga as it does for the PL. With the pandemic no growth in commercial deals and ticket sales for the next few years.
Look... We all know Braithwaite is decent not world class.. But so is his salary and let's face it.. He is close to looking successful, when compared to coutinho.
Funfact- the year Barca won the treble, it already had about 300 million debt. The thing is that banks allow Barcelona to have such exorbitant debts because they generate the most money as well, and that too by some margin. The problem with the current situation isn't the huge amount (actually barca were supposed to have half a billion debt by 2021 even without covid) but more how the debt is structured. They need to renegotiate the debt to longer term debt. Also, the banks woud not want to make barca bankrupt simply because how massive the amount is. About 10-15million is the loss that banks usually try to ignore when taking over assets of any such indebted club. Barca (tho much more valuable than the above examples) also have such massive debt that banks would want quicker repayment and they know that changing the ownership model will mean that the debt takes even longer to repay.
Exactly this, as long as their assets are higher than the liabilities they’ll be fine. Obviously the cash flow is a problem since they need to service short term debt, but what are banks gonna do? Have them go into bankruptcy and sell assets to repay the ST debt, or convert those loans into LT ones and have them pay interest over a longer period. The amount of debt itself is not a problem as long as you can service it.
im quite suprised that the possibility of messi leaving in the summer was not really brought up in the video. him leaving would obviously worsen their financial difficulties.
You forgot to mention the fact that while Madrid is also in debt, they are more successful than Barca so there is more inflow from winnings than in Barca, while they haven't made many astronomically expensive transfers in a fairly long time.
perez managed to reduce real madrid debt in his first presedency with spending and building galacticos era, so it is not impossible for barca and laporte to do it while spending
@Zidni Imani not just that, he brought super stars that attracted more fans and sold more merchandise, made the stars give a 50 percent or more of the their image rights to generate more money increased the club popularity in asia and other markets
I'd like to see Pep coming back and work with a club in depth and bring back success to his former club and prove he doesn't need need infinite money to make a good team. That's will be a proper challenge for him.
The same Pep where his Barcelona were fined by UEFA for breaching the same kind of anti-doping regulations of which his Man City team have been accused? And now Financial Fair Play breaches for City. Pep and scandalous teams = a better love story than Twilight
We need a video analyzing Juventus' disastrous "Ronaldo project". Was it a commercial move to boost Juve's revenue or was it just a poorly planned short-term project?
Joe: "The European Super League is unlikely to happen in the short term" Guess what, Joe is sometimes wrong. What do you know, maybe De Gea is still a world class keeper.
@@Sasquatch10 you live in parallel universe,people don't bye anymore Messi tops and insignia and don't watch Barcelona because of messi that used to be the case not anymore...
Good question my English speaking friend, funny how they try to always make foreigners think everyone is against them and then La Liga didn't intercede that corrupt club
Sadly, many big Brazilian football clubs have similar debt picture in the context of a devalued currency and much lesser revenue generating capacity. An ode to financial risk taking taking by dodgy club officials that prey on passionate supporters’ thirst for success...
If the Super League plans being put into reality than they would receive a 3.5 bn payday.. This would not just erase their debts but also will help them to keep Messi.. I don't want to trigger any discussion if that's a good idea or not but Barças case for participating is clear.. They need that founding member bonus.
Yes, they are selling nude photos of my mother, ha! Oh, I mean YOUR mother, ha! The joke has your maternal relation as the crux of it. It is NOT about my mother. If you dare to make fun of my mother I will get very very upset.
They key here is for Barca to sell players like Griezmann, Coutinho, Pjanic, Umtiti, etc. Reduce the wage bill, emphasize on la masia so they don't have to buy more players (which they have, there are great and promising players in la masia), and like they said in the video, improve their football.
Barcelona’s wage bill is the main financial problem. When one mans wages of your squad (Lionel Messi) is the same as the entire wages of another squad (Leicester City) you know you’ve screwed over you’re Clubs finances in the short term
The rule applies in like 3 years so even if you make losses for 1 year that's within the rules. but ofc that is only applied against certain clubs..the bias could be there
They went after Man City because Man City took the piss and pushed it too far. They don't go after Barca because it was never even meant to harm them, it was brought in to try and protect them from clubs like Chelsea, Man City and PSG. I strongly doubt that it's a coincidence that there is a rumour that FFP is going to be scrapped right when it's revealed that Barca is struggling so much with debt.
@@tonyblakemore2355 PSG and Man City were in a competition to see who could take the piss the most. PSG were the clear winners in the competition but AFAIK they weren't busted by Football Leaks and Man City were.
@@KingHumphrey It doesn't make sense though...if you think rationally, the bigger clubs have more fans -> more money-> better players->higher change of winning -> more fans and the cycle goes...how can small clubs ever compete if they can't attract players? Football is like Telcom..you need steep investment upfront before you can be profitable and sustainable.
Thanks to Bartomeo for messing up the club finances. With Laporta incharge we can get any player and still manage our debt well. I believe in his leadership, he has what it takes to make things stable. I wish the club element of lucks.
Madrid president Perez He is biggest snake 🐍 dangerous and mastermind for destroy Barcelona Later , he will destroy every elite club and keep Madrid invincible,he is destroy good football Just watch
Some data surprisingly not shown in the video: 1. Economic losses this season (20/21) are expected to reach 350 M€, according to the new board. Thus, Barcelona debt is even higher than the amount reported in the video. 2. La Liga has rigoruous salary caps for all the teams, including of course Barcelona. The salary caps are calculated based on the revenues of the teams. This is intended to maintain financial fair play. Barcelona will have to reduce wages significantly next season in order to be able to compete in La Liga. In other words, they WILL have to send players with high wages to comply with La Liga salary caps. Barcelona already had to reduce wages in 300 M€ for the current season (20/21). In case they can not reduce wages this year (which actually was the case), the penalty is accummulated next year (21/22). 3. Barcelona has not paid the first team salaries this year, and this payment was deferred to gain some time to find money (news in Spain indicate that Barcelona will sell half of their merchandising rights (Barça Corporate) to Carlo Bonomi for 200 M€. This is a desperate move to cover basic expenditures and to pay some salaries. 4. Messi signed in 2017 a 555 M€ contract which includes a 66M€ fidelity clause due in July 2021.
When you decide to hand a 30 year-old a contract worth half a billion euros and think this contract will "pay for itself", you're already in trouble. Also Bartomeu should have bitten the bullet and sold Messi a year ago to generate some cash flow, he was too scared of becoming even more unpopular. Add to that all the failed signings of recent years and you get an explosive cocktail.
Barcelona should really get The Athletic as their sponsor, if they can access the Athletic for free it will cut down a lot of costs
Their debt first appeared on the Atheltic
Athletic themselves will give them money for promotion😂😂
Athletic is just one pound a month
@@akhilsajeev1601 That should prove easy to refund
We all know that Barcelona’s problems would be solved if they just signed Ibrahim Sangare.
Headed to sleep, this guys voice is so calming
Omg yessss!
goodnight fam
Thought I was the only one
I swr. I taut I was the only one having that feeling.
@joe devine when u starting ur own asmr channel?
Coutinho, Dembele, Griezmann; all signed for in excess of a 100M each and not even one of them has lived up to the price tag!
Or half of it
@@brendangilmartin4002 agreed... Reports are that Dembele could be shipped for 50M
@@kohchungwei dembele is so useless on the brink of being a 24 year old.. huge spells of injury, terrible dribbler to say the least.. finishing is awful, passing is awful.. we need to sell him immediately
Coutinho helped a team win the Championes League...just not the one who bought him
@@YusufEbr Liverpool signed Alison, Van Dijk and Salah with all the Barça money. Worst deal ever made
Super League: "Unlikely to happen in the short term"
*Five days later*
Spot on.
Shows you just how much the Super League took everyone by surprise
I was going to write the same thing
1 day later it breaks apart
Aaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone
4:02 "Luis Enrique first season in charge"
Shows Valverde
Why don't the check the videos before releasing them? Because they've had 6 managers since pep too
@@liam00 there research is also a bit sloppy. A video of haaland they said city or United will sign yet city won't sign him and whoever follows United knows haaland coming wont even paper the cracks for their problems
@@leface30 and they forgot to mention puig, araujo and collado as exciting young players
Lol
@@liam00 only Araújo
Koeman paid his way out from Netherlands NT contract with his own money (close to 7m Eu if I think) to became Barca's manager and he said to the club to not pay his wages yet. He even reportedly paid with his own money to go to Barca museum. Talking about legends here.
Wow 👏 😮
Yet some "fans" still question him even though he never enetered the Mercato!!
And with a team whose most players are und-23 !
Koeman is a gentleman, an absolute legend. When he scored that goal in 1992 in Wembley I cried uncontrollably. I was 19, now 47, and the passion still burns deep inside.
An absolute legend
And some gets 555 in 5 year gross salary...barca in mud and let them sink...🤣🤣
Tifo- barca 1.3 billion debt
Forbes- barca most valuable club(4bn)
Culers- confused
Hotel- we cant afford it
Hotel- Trivago
One is value, the other is cash flow? The question mark is because I don’t fully get it either tbh.
@@kiriakoz same😂😂
@@kiriakoz 😅
@@kiriakoz Value if they've to sell a club today. Debt what you owe. Honestly the debt is not that much. Their main problem is that major payment is very close in near future and not in distant future. That's mostly because of dysfunctional signing of Dembele, Greizmann and Coutinho.
“Poor decision making” being represented by a cow and a handful of magic beans, was pure comic genius.
Ikr
That tornado and an awkwardly spinning cow afterwards also cracked me hahaha
I don't get it , can you explain?
@@haoyuan5 It's a reference to Jack and the Beanstalk if you haven't seen it or heard of it before
@@haoyuan5 in the story Jack and the Beanstalk, Jack’s mother tells him to take their only cow to sell at a market.
But rather than sell the cow at the market for cash, he hands the cow over to a stranger for some “magic beans”. Which frankly could have been any old beans. This is a poor decision on Jack’s part, although in the context of the story the magic beans lead to untold riches for Jack and his mother.
You’re missing one manager after Guardiola. I counted 6 with Koeman, not 5. Villanova, Martino, Enrique, Valverde, Setien and now Koeman
Number 7 coming soon!
@@alexreg
In times of crisis
Here comes the 7th manager of the culers
in theaters near you
+Jordi Roura as interim when Vilanova was sick
Add Xavi to the list now
Frenkie De Jong was reportedly surprised how much wages Bartomeu was offering him to join Barca
even maldini would leave milan if barto offered him a contract
@@Josh-zu7th Fartomeu really is a clown.
Je was also surprised by how little physical training he did at his initial period.
@@Sasquatch10 put some respect on his name. He gave your club financial instability
@@kinggames4668 who😹😹😹
Arsene Wenger when he was always worried about Arsenal's finances now that there is a pandemic: "they called me a madman".
They lost pace with the other teams though and now they struggle to make top 6.
@@ashleyburns6752 the stadium construction loan hampered everything... they lost the entire Invincibles and the greats like Fabregas to that eventually
@@ashleyburns6752 yes but they were pretty unlucky between August 2014 and May 2016, when they were last good enough to win a league title. after that arsenal's board became riskier in the market, which hasn't paid off with the pepe transfer the most obvious example
@@ashleyburns6752
By other teams do you mean Man City and Chelsea?
Stop using the “we need to pay off the stadium loan” excuse. Their books always showed a massive profit from 2006-2016. 4-5 big signings would not have killed them. Wengers ego got in the way. He though he could keep finding gems on the cheap like RVP, cesc, Adebayor, Henry, Ljungberg, Pires, Lehman but instead we got El Neny, Tomas Einsfeld, alumnia, Marouhane Chamakh, Yaya Sanogo
Still their new president is like: Haaland is the priority
Last time he was president Barca where in the same situation and he bought Ronaldinho and then you know the rest
@@nocaptionneeded8842 times have changed last time he wasn't in this much debt and a player like haaland is gonna cost 150m.euros.
Well you need to win trophies to pay off debts and signing haaland will improve their chances so
"why not ?"
@@spek888 market inflation, I doubt that this is too much for laporta to deal with
@@yuvrajsingh743 because they have much more pressing issues to deal with before they can build to win trophies
“Barcelona has the highest wage bill yet nowhere near the best squad “ That really hit me hard. Our situation is very very sad 😞
Yep, Barcelona should fire their sporting director immediately.
Tifo is always throwing us off our feet with the topics of their videos. Keep it up guys
"Super League unlikely to happen in the short term" - that aged well.
lool 6:38
"We have a detailed shock plan that we will announce in due course" LOL
It went from aging like milk to aging like wine with in 2 days
this comment aged like milk
Well it’s pretty unlikely now!
Oh no, it means that Barca can no longer sign Tifo's favorite recommendation Ibrahim Sangare to bolster their midfield ☹️
Last time I was this early Barca weren't in debt.
@SK - 08KJ 762349 Roberta Bondar PS agreed that's what us Barca fans need to acknowledge signing players is not the objective keeping messi is top priority but look what needs to happen alongside that as far as debt us concerned the club should not be splashing money, they should try to lower the wages of players this might be difficult considering that since the 4-1 defeat against psg Barcelona found a spark that fired them up players are motivated they seem to be on the right path as far as young talents go , dembele is showing some signs of success, pedri , de Jong and puig are l doing great , Ansu fati is key right now getting him back would be amazing, moriba has also been very good and of course mingueza and lenglet. Barca have problems buying the wrong players I mean they could've bought haaland but chose Kevin prince boateng... martin braithwaite is showing some stuff sort of like the paulinho factor
They should do a reform, normalize the player's wages as well as the transfer, rejuvenate the academy and Barca B functionality, sort out the unnecessary spending, etc.
It'll be hard to do that while keeping up with Real Madrid at the same time, but sometimes that kind of radical move is what needed to "reset" everything onto the right path.
barca has always been in debt
@SK - 08KJ 762349 Roberta Bondar PS see the thing is if Messi goes they gotta say bye bye to revenue
@SK - 09CM 762349 Central Peel SS your comment aged like fine wine.
Guys like Bartomeu really need to be accountable. Not having people check his decisions was criminal.
You think the issues are down to just one person?
Barcelona have been a ticking disaster for the last three decades. These issues go right back into the 1990s.
@@bighands69 Back to the 90s? What are you talking about? Barcelona have been one of the most successful teams on the pitch and off the pitch since that time. And yes, The President of a club is accountable for all that goes on.
I love how superclubs see their debt problems and massive revenues and then think the solution is to get more money rather than managing or cut spending better
Combination of too big to fail and really financial bad management.
This is a problem that is baked into modern Spanish culture. Which is a microcosm of the EU economy.
Come on dude, even Americans have heard of Barca or Real. If you have the right brand, money will always be available.
Or they cut costs by firing a few kitchen staff and cleaners
@@timdev615 the bubble will always burst.
Cutting will lead to AC Milan - not always a smart idea. If you want to attract top players, you need top players in the team as well. You need to spend but spend wisely.
When you're paying the equivalent of the entire salary of the Leicester City team on the wages for one player then you're asking for trouble...
Well technically Messi his salary is the only one that is justifiable as they make more money on having him in the club on shirt sales and normally also ticket sales for people who want to see him play. The salary of other Barcelona players are way worse as they do not perform at all and just cost way too much money.
The problem isn't Messi, it's the last 5. Griezmann earns more than De Bruyne, KDB combined
It is noteworthy that in their 2020 budget it was forecasted to, not only win the league, cup and reach quarter finals of the Champions League, but that their match day revenue would be back by september of last year.
This means that they've overestimated thei budget by a lot, so when end-of-season comes their loses will be even greater
Barcelona had an average attendance of 53k in 2019 and they haven't been able to fill the stadium in years why the hell would they increase the capacity
Dude, when ucl is playing the stadium is always full.
@@anwan5 only in the big games so thats what 4 games a season maybe? And even than it's rarely sold out, it's been a problem here in Spain for awhile.
Real Madrid have the same problem
@@SG0041 its not only 4 games lol...
@@anwan5 you said ucl? It depends on how far you go in the tournament mate, look it up if you think I'm making it up, pretty much every team in la liga is suffering from this
@@SG0041 is Real not also increasing the capacity of their stadium right now?
"Barcelona were also pushing for a European Super Leauge, but is unlikely to happen in the short term at least."
Happened 5 days later.
Oh did it, really?😂😂
Gone 6 days later
Aaaaand it's gone
Barcelona posted a 1 billion EURO in 2019 - it is the richest club.
@@adad-ec6ht Big debts will cripple the club, barely solvent.
Paying silly money for wages is a huge part of what's put them in this mess
They wanted to compete with the super rich sugar daddy clubs so they spent what they needed to still be competitive. Maybe you might find it silly but socios were thrilled for years on end.
@Wizzer doesn't Messi generate double the money he's paid. And plus he also plays for them.
@Wizzer bro messi generates many euros for them.
@Wizzer barca bought players like dembele who costed them around 140 million euros and Coutinho for 150 million euros. And if Coutinho plays his 100th game for barca then barca has to give additional 20 million cuz if the clause that was agreed. It was the total fault of the board. If a laporta would've been in charge of barça's presidency then no way barca would've been in debt.
@Wizzer You do realise that Messi isn't the only player that they're paying humongous wages to? The man is still netting goal left and right and singlehandedly generates 30% of the club's income. Barcelona's lackluster management is the reason for the debt.
Imagine having a billion dollar debt and still saying we'll try getting Haaland. Sounds funny? Thats what Laporta did.
I'm convinced the interest in Haaland is only a tactic to make him more expensive for other clubs.
Real Madrid is also in 900 Million debt(yet they are after big players).
Atletico are in nearly 1 billion debt for a long time(yet they signed Felix)
So Barca is the only team in debt is a myth almost every huge team are in somewhat big debt
@@fargo1234 Real Madrid’s debt is mostly the costs of renovating their stadium, which set them back by 650 million, and probably could be repaid quite easily if stadiums come back to full capacity
@@fargo1234 major part of our debt is to be paid in 30 years. Our short term debt is 3 times lesser than that of Barcelona's.👍
@@fargo1234 Have you not watched the video or are just too stupid to understand both situations are different.
They should buy some crypto and GameStop.
and doge coin
@@dharmairmansyah2844 xrp too
Barça 2 weeks later: Lets buy PSG and Manchester City
Buy BCH and LTC
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...this is the reason why i dont skip ads when watching barca's videos
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you win! hahahaha
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The problem is ,why waching football on tv? why to much person wacht only short video and not the full game?????this is the problem ,new generation of fans dont are fans!dont go in stadium ,are fans but dont make natig for the club ! etc etc etc ....to many say i am a fans ,and dont not the all player ,history money bilance etc... etc......and say i am a fans and dont no what is Cantera etc..........THE PROBLEM NOT ONLY FOR BARCA ,Football is a sport but now is only money is a show.
Stop pay tv ,stop to sel in tv the game etc..... return to the football for a real fans e for Fans , this is the real way !!!!!!! adn the money change the fans to fake fans !fake fans =only person by one prodokt ! etc... etc... no dont have english in the school!
Yet nobody is talking about the systemic issues that are to be seen everywhere, on every level. Insane transfer fees, non-sustainable wages and (i.m.o. worst of all) banking of future success. All while youth systems are neglected by major clubs.
It has become an industry that is dependent on loans, olicharchs and sheiks. Bound to collapse one day if this will continue.
It will come crashing down sooner than we think.
Almost everyone here is talking about that
@Roy Van Der Marel
Take this to the bank will you. In the next few decades certain football clubs will not exists.
@@bighands69 Yes, and oxygen will be oxygen.
@@bighands69 while I agree with you, banks in Spain will never take the risk of rejecting a club like Barca or demanding a sudden deposit of a couple of million euros. Just think of all the publicity that would generate, which could backfire harder on that bank than bending their rules for a football club. As crooked as that may be.
What makes this even crazier is the fact that they are The most valuable team in the world right now in the sport at least
Valuations are deceptive - they represent all of the assets - including ones that are neccessary to run the org, like Camp Nou. Barca has a cash flow problem more than anything else
Most "valuable" because of the high wage contract most players have. Not surprising considering the fact that players like pique have lesser impact compared to they once did whilst still having such high wage contract valid.
@@yashveer2269 pique is our best defender wym
@@Josh-zu7th araujo is your best defender. Pique is a washed cry baby and professional moaner.
@@Josh-zu7th not this season
I know u said fringe players, but we all know u meant 'french' 🥲
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Yes and those same players play well for france. Maybe give Didier Deschamps a call?
@@WizoIstGott like who ?
Lenglet and Dembele don’t really play.
Griezmann usually plays well, when the whole team plays well.
And it’s solely due to the fact that he takes more risks there. He shoots when he doesn’t even feel that he can score. With Barça, he never shoots even when he’s supposed to.
And when he shoots, it’s usually because he can’t dribble and make himself closer to the net.
And that’s our problem. We have 11 players who all depend on Messi’s genius vision and passing to be serviced closer to the opposition and score.
(Except for Dembele when he sometimes takes on players, but his dribbles are useless. They never end in a creative pass).
Yes same thing here. I was even going to comment that they'd have to get rid of Greizmann 😆
@@WizoIstGott they do bro. But france aint barca bro. Different team, different setup, different games
here we are 5 days later with the european super league
And one day later still and its gone
Here we are 8 days later with the super league dead in the water lol
Thank you Tifo!!! This is the one video I REALLY wanted you guys to cover! Thanks again!
Weird how you never mention Griezmann, 2nd highest salary and largest amount of transfer money owed
And biggest failure
Coutinho was just at the wrong place at the wrong time 🤷
How they get around this will be something to take note of. Because money will be an issue after Messi leaves
as soon as the stadium opens for fans. it'll be much more possible.
stadium reopens= stacks of cash
How many will attend. They can't fill their stadium on a best day.
@@Josh-zu7th He's talking about after Messi leaves. Messi's fans are like 1/3 of the fan base. Who's going to show up after he leaves.
@@kieronparr3403 We average 53k on stadiums every match, the debt can be overcome if stadiums get opened and we get a loan from a bank, worst case scenario I feel someone would buy us like how Abrahomovich did to Chelsea to save them from debt (Which wouldn't be pleasant too much but as I said it would be last chance)
Would love to know how Schalke have massively fallen from competing at the Champions League in 2018-19 after finishing 2nd the previous season, to now being rock bottom and having relegation seemingly inevitable with their own debt and having that 30-game winless run whilst sacking 4 managers. Would be interesting. Cheers
Schalke cannot keep spending so it mean at some point the party had to stop.
It really annoys me when teams spend so much money on one player, when they aren’t even worth that much.
Ask Neymar about that ..
Do you know what's more annoying working a job way important than football and still get payed shit
@@artfull_visions-714 difference is you can build your whole offence on Neymar
@@noname-rg1pq I feel you mate, too bad doctors and engineers can't produce the same amount of money in marketing and shirt sales. 💸💸💸
Raul Martinez you people are really funny, you really want doctors to start taking salary like football players?? Are you that stupid?
I'd say having 3 forwards that costs €400 mil that have yet to have consistent performances week in week out helped that too. Dembele Coutinho and Griezmann has been underperforming for way too long thus severely lowering their marketability and that also translates to Barcelona cannot make huge money of those 3. If Bayern had bought Coutinho back then, this could have been reduced but even Bayern did not see Coutinho as worth of spending €120 mil.
Barcelona's marketability is exclusively because Messi is there.
The moment Messi goes, all those sponsorships that came with Messi will all go away.
Thanks to Bartomeu 🤣🤣
The main source 😂😂
That man was playing FIFA career mode in real life.
@@jr.3308 lmao you can say that again 😂😂
Most say Ronaldo is the best signing Real Madrid ever made. I'd argue that it's Josep Maria BARTOMEUUUUU
I hate Fartomeu.
This will be the legacy of Bartomeu. Wouldn’t be surprised if Barça become what Man Utd were for the next couple of years
Nah they have some absolutely incredible youth players and Laporta seems to have a strategy of using them. I think they can keep up as a top team without any big money signings.
Or worse, be like Milan was a decade ago.
Bartomeu is a Madrid legend. We wish him great life ahead. 😁
La Masia produces great talent, they will never end up like Man U.
The thing is la Masia is probably the best football academy in the world, they have produced probably some of the best players not just of this era but some of the best players ever and if we go full on la Masia even for the next 10 years Barcelona can still maintain their standards, and looking at the talents we have coming out of the academy, as a barca fan I'm not worried at all.
Formal, simplistic and sophisticated. Every upload is a joy to watch. I want your job!
Tifo Blessings us all the way in Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 🇿🇼 🇿🇼.... Can you please do a video on Barca B's gems this season🙏🏽🙏🏽
"European Super League unlikely to happen in the short term" 5 days later.....
and it's dead
Lasted like 2 days ahah
I'm a very casual football fan (like I'll only watch world cups) but I love your storytelling and interesting news about world football
“They were pushing for European super league, but is unlucky to happen in the short term”
this aged well....
I think it wont happen. Even if they try, they cant afford to not play la liga, champions league and copa😙
I was a big barca fan but now with all the ignorance I hope they go bankrupt, it is just unfair to support their behaviour.
And look, it isn’t happening in the short term. Your comment aged well.
@@br8129 mate are you dumb?!?!?!? 1.2 billion debt.....
Looks like they will fold in a couple of years but it will serve them right for trying to form this Super League they got too greedy.
For a second there, I thought that the vicious cycle was Aku 😅
That would be a lot easier to handle... Just call samurai Jack 😂😂
I thought that too 🤣
Goddamn, now even The Athletic admits that it's the source of everything we know
Stop with the terrible language.
@@BenjHouston English isn't a terrible language
@@BenjHouston I noticed how you made sure to end with a period.
Athletic is the source of everything
The more I see videos like this, the more I understand why they are joining the European Super League.They need the money desperately.
The media and fans portrayed it as pure greed. In reality it’s more about financial survival.
Also probably a part of the reason why the Bundesliga clubs didn’t join. They don’t need to. They are run conservatively and incredibly well for the most part (financially speaking).
@@SunsetSheen Correct for the first part, not so much for the second. Being soundly run isn't going to save German football clubs from being overpowered by the financial might of PSG and PL clubs. They may still generate profits but will ultimately be unable to compete for European glory. Television money is the only stream that keeps growing, yet it's now growing as much for the Bundesliga as it does for the PL. With the pandemic no growth in commercial deals and ticket sales for the next few years.
@@SunsetSheen it’s financial survival thanks to the greedy and foolish decisions made by Barcelona in the first place.
03:17 I like how Haircuts makes large part of the liabilities haha nice touch
It's a double joke actually, a haircut is when you assign value to smt but it is actually worth way less, such as Coutinho
Barcelona just need to sell Braithwaite and they’ll be out of debt 💸
No, not Goatwaite😨😱
@@freeross371 Ballweight is a great player for Barca!!!
Look... We all know Braithwaite is decent not world class.. But so is his salary and let's face it.. He is close to looking successful, when compared to coutinho.
"European Super League unlikely in the near future" *ESL announced three days later*
Funfact- the year Barca won the treble, it already had about 300 million debt. The thing is that banks allow Barcelona to have such exorbitant debts because they generate the most money as well, and that too by some margin. The problem with the current situation isn't the huge amount (actually barca were supposed to have half a billion debt by 2021 even without covid) but more how the debt is structured. They need to renegotiate the debt to longer term debt.
Also, the banks woud not want to make barca bankrupt simply because how massive the amount is. About 10-15million is the loss that banks usually try to ignore when taking over assets of any such indebted club. Barca (tho much more valuable than the above examples) also have such massive debt that banks would want quicker repayment and they know that changing the ownership model will mean that the debt takes even longer to repay.
Every big club is in debt expect for bayern
Exactly this, as long as their assets are higher than the liabilities they’ll be fine. Obviously the cash flow is a problem since they need to service short term debt, but what are banks gonna do? Have them go into bankruptcy and sell assets to repay the ST debt, or convert those loans into LT ones and have them pay interest over a longer period. The amount of debt itself is not a problem as long as you can service it.
Don't worry, you'll still have €180m to spend on transfers in career mode.
Lol🤣🤣🤣
I can only imagine Alice's giddy excitement upon reading "vicious circle" in the script 4:32
im quite suprised that the possibility of messi leaving in the summer was not really brought up in the video. him leaving would obviously worsen their financial difficulties.
to start win they need
Darwin nunez/Alexander isak braithwaite
Rafael leao/Pedro neto coutinho
busquest ibrahim sangare
Real Madrid audited accounts for the 19/20 season were around 300K€ gains for the season, no losses at all, certainly not 100M€.
Watching this in September, Barcelona already managed to lose one of the talents mentioned as a way out of this mess in Moriba.
You forgot to mention the fact that while Madrid is also in debt, they are more successful than Barca so there is more inflow from winnings than in Barca, while they haven't made many astronomically expensive transfers in a fairly long time.
perez managed to reduce real madrid debt in his first presedency with spending and building galacticos era, so it is not impossible for barca and laporte to do it while spending
@Zidni Imani not just that, he brought super stars that attracted more fans and sold more merchandise,
made the stars give a 50 percent or more of the their image rights to generate more money
increased the club popularity in asia and other markets
Joe Devine voice is the reason why I watched tifofootball. His voice attracted me so much and his voice is really overwhelmingly
6:41 well it escalated too fast
till today their debts are getting more and more still cannot clear
Your voice is like a calming pill and a lullaby all together 😴
I'd like to see Pep coming back and work with a club in depth and bring back success to his former club and prove he doesn't need need infinite money to make a good team. That's will be a proper challenge for him.
The same pep who admitted he needs to spend millions to win?
Yeah pep is the best or 2nd best manager in the world he will demand the best not just suffer
Why can't he do that at City? City's academy is good, but he prefers buying more players for the bench
jajajajajajajaa
The same Pep where his Barcelona were fined by UEFA for breaching the same kind of anti-doping regulations of which his Man City team have been accused? And now Financial Fair Play breaches for City.
Pep and scandalous teams = a better love story than Twilight
6:38 they picked option 2 :(
Content has been really good lately! Full of variety.
Super league comment didn’t age well
Hahahahaha short term 6:35
@@OzzyOscy now it did
I love the little details. "Haircuts" is the highest expenditure on the balance sheet.
Solution :
1) sign Haaland for €150 million
2) keep Messi and his €500k per month wages
3) sell Barca youths for cheap. All of them
Oh wait...
Lmfao so true
Already did by BARTHEMOU
Messi is earning 71m a year, thats 5,9m a month and 1,2m a week.
500k per month, more like per week!
Per week dude
Yup your videos are soothing! I love the background music, it's calming.
Cheers.
We need a video analyzing Juventus' disastrous "Ronaldo project". Was it a commercial move to boost Juve's revenue or was it just a poorly planned short-term project?
He’s made a video on that already
In short Juve made every penny back plus more. Their only mistake was not investing in other talent and only in their own academy...
Joe: "The European Super League is unlikely to happen in the short term"
Guess what, Joe is sometimes wrong.
What do you know, maybe De Gea is still a world class keeper.
Selling Messi would have been such a boost considering the pressure eased of the wage bill but ooh well . . .
I'd argue Messi actually brings way more revenue to the club than his wages would suggest.
Yes but you will lose much more in revenue so that's not a choice.
@@Sasquatch10 you live in parallel universe,people don't bye anymore Messi tops and insignia and don't watch Barcelona because of messi that used to be the case not anymore...
@@orahovavucichitlerdacicgoe7223 of course people but Messi shirts and watch just because of Messi. I completely disagree.
Why are they not put into administration like other clubs are? They should be deducted points this is unfair on other clubs.
Good question my English speaking friend, funny how they try to always make foreigners think everyone is against them and then La Liga didn't intercede that corrupt club
Sadly, many big Brazilian football clubs have similar debt picture in the context of a devalued currency and much lesser revenue generating capacity. An ode to financial risk taking taking by dodgy club officials that prey on passionate supporters’ thirst for success...
The supporters also push for this. The average supporter doesn't have finances in mind over success. If they don't preform they are are out of a job.
Mental that a club can be mismanaged like that
Fun fact: the 7th highest paid Barcelona player earns more than the highest paid Real Madrid player.
And yet real is still ahead of barca in la liga, what a shame.
They have over 1b $ debts, and they still buy Players for 70M 😂😂
Bartomeu... that’s all I have to say..
Bad management killing football clubs with their terrible decision making.
can you please do a video about the inter financial situation?
Could you enlighten me? Im english and have not really followed football in italy since the 90's
@@funkinc6992 inter is in huge debt, hasnt paid players salaries in months, still hasnt paid the likes of lukaku hakimi.....
@@Patrik.Pereira thats nuts that the players are still performing so well
If the Super League plans being put into reality than they would receive a 3.5 bn payday.. This would not just erase their debts but also will help them to keep Messi.. I don't want to trigger any discussion if that's a good idea or not but Barças case for participating is clear.. They need that founding member bonus.
Financial recovery vs. integrity & soul of the club.
Any chance we could get a video on Oldham Athletic and the Premier League's first great escape?
-450 million euros from the super league. Problem solved
Looks like Barca found a way to solve their debt issues...
Yes, they are selling nude photos of my mother, ha! Oh, I mean YOUR mother, ha!
The joke has your maternal relation as the crux of it. It is NOT about my mother. If you dare to make fun of my mother I will get very very upset.
@@doubleuponbob3397 bruh
They key here is for Barca to sell players like Griezmann, Coutinho, Pjanic, Umtiti, etc. Reduce the wage bill, emphasize on la masia so they don't have to buy more players (which they have, there are great and promising players in la masia), and like they said in the video, improve their football.
The shock plan was ESL.
Barcelona’s wage bill is the main financial problem. When one mans wages of your squad (Lionel Messi) is the same as the entire wages of another squad (Leicester City) you know you’ve screwed over you’re Clubs finances in the short term
I thought this was what financial fair play was for, yet they go after Man City for having ability to clear any potential debt instantly
The rule applies in like 3 years so even if you make losses for 1 year that's within the rules. but ofc that is only applied against certain clubs..the bias could be there
They went after Man City because Man City took the piss and pushed it too far. They don't go after Barca because it was never even meant to harm them, it was brought in to try and protect them from clubs like Chelsea, Man City and PSG. I strongly doubt that it's a coincidence that there is a rumour that FFP is going to be scrapped right when it's revealed that Barca is struggling so much with debt.
@@KingHumphrey and PSG didn't push it far enough even though they spent big for Neymar, Mbappe, Cavani, Di Maria and more.
@@tonyblakemore2355 PSG and Man City were in a competition to see who could take the piss the most. PSG were the clear winners in the competition but AFAIK they weren't busted by Football Leaks and Man City were.
@@KingHumphrey It doesn't make sense though...if you think rationally, the bigger clubs have more fans -> more money-> better players->higher change of winning -> more fans and the cycle goes...how can small clubs ever compete if they can't attract players? Football is like Telcom..you need steep investment upfront before you can be profitable and sustainable.
Thanks to Bartomeo for messing up the club finances.
With Laporta incharge we can get any player and still manage our debt well.
I believe in his leadership, he has what it takes to make things stable. I wish the club element of lucks.
Madrid president Perez
He is biggest snake 🐍 dangerous and mastermind for destroy Barcelona
Later , he will destroy every elite club and keep Madrid invincible,he is destroy good football
Just watch
yea.. they are really struggling
Do you realize that when you say “under Luis Enrique charge” appears the Valverde figure?
Well this aged terribly
April 14: European super league seems unlikely to happen in the short term.
Aprtil 18: European super league announced :p
Well....
Some data surprisingly not shown in the video:
1. Economic losses this season (20/21) are expected to reach 350 M€, according to the new board. Thus, Barcelona debt is even higher than the amount reported in the video.
2. La Liga has rigoruous salary caps for all the teams, including of course Barcelona. The salary caps are calculated based on the revenues of the teams. This is intended to maintain financial fair play. Barcelona will have to reduce wages significantly next season in order to be able to compete in La Liga. In other words, they WILL have to send players with high wages to comply with La Liga salary caps. Barcelona already had to reduce wages in 300 M€ for the current season (20/21). In case they can not reduce wages this year (which actually was the case), the penalty is accummulated next year (21/22).
3. Barcelona has not paid the first team salaries this year, and this payment was deferred to gain some time to find money (news in Spain indicate that Barcelona will sell half of their merchandising rights (Barça Corporate) to Carlo Bonomi for 200 M€. This is a desperate move to cover basic expenditures and to pay some salaries.
4. Messi signed in 2017 a 555 M€ contract which includes a 66M€ fidelity clause due in July 2021.
Seen this video and found a lot of omissions which where not pointed out.
6:05 I was caught off guard by that bluntness..
French players **cough**
He said Fringe
When you decide to hand a 30 year-old a contract worth half a billion euros and think this contract will "pay for itself", you're already in trouble. Also Bartomeu should have bitten the bullet and sold Messi a year ago to generate some cash flow, he was too scared of becoming even more unpopular. Add to that all the failed signings of recent years and you get an explosive cocktail.
5 days after video, European Super League has been announced!
One day after your comment and its been called off 😂
6 days after video, European Super League has gone pop
I had no idea Barcelona was in debt
They paid frenki and lewandowski alone more then 70 mil a year. Crazy..
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Raymar
Dw kick off
Copa90
The coaches voices
And tifo
Are Poet and Vuj still at copa