La Masia: What Went Wrong at Barcelona's Academy?

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  • La Masia: What went wrong at Barcelona's academy?
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    La Masia is not what it used to be. In 2012, Tito Vilanova played with 11 La Masia players for 60 minutes against Levante for the first time in history. In 2010, the world's top three players consisted of Messi, Iniesta and Xavi, according to the Ballon d’Or voting. All three were developed by the same school and idea: La Masia.`
    Expecting that to always remain the case, for La Masia to keep producing at the rate of its 2000s peak, was always unrealistic. But today, the contrast to today is huge.
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  • @aryan.marahaj
    @aryan.marahaj 4 года назад +2652

    Barcelona are hiring the wrong manager's and board's vision is not on youngsters. The board wants success now but even that isn't working.

    • @user-sb2mt6pz4o
      @user-sb2mt6pz4o 4 года назад +94

      Hopefully ansu fati can make the board realise they should focus on la masia again

    • @amitbora1703
      @amitbora1703 4 года назад +18

      you should know that valvared promoted more barca b players then anyone .....

    • @oudoilleoville1695
      @oudoilleoville1695 4 года назад +34

      When you have Messi in your team, the vision should be success now and not eternal postponing of success.

    • @gavintharney6795
      @gavintharney6795 4 года назад +5

      Amit Bora That doesn’t mean they get consistent minutes

    • @Titantr0n
      @Titantr0n 4 года назад +19

      The board doesn't give a flying fuck about anything that's not bussiness and Valverde just wants to keep the position whatever it takes. We're in the SHIT.

  • @matthewvenables8867
    @matthewvenables8867 4 года назад +1512

    I find it hard to believe that so many people think that La Masia is the best youth academy in the world, they hit the jackpot with there golden generation, just like many great teams have done through the history of football.
    La Masia and Johan Cruyff developed their identity by copying Ajax and Rinus Michels tactics and training methods.(That is not a criticism)
    The greatest youth setup belongs to Ajax, they have produced more elite footballers than any other club in the world and have done so for nearly 50 years.

    • @Snacks079
      @Snacks079 4 года назад +194

      Great post. I agree, except for one thing. Cruyff is the one who invented total football. Many players who were present at the time all stated Michels was always listening to Cruyff. Michels may have given his own spin, but Cruyff was miles ahead of anyone when it came to football philosophy and tactics.

    • @jumajasjas2925
      @jumajasjas2925 4 года назад +33

      True Ajaz is the greatest of them all... followed by Barca and Cruyf deserves every honor he change the game...

    • @jjryan1352
      @jjryan1352 4 года назад +59

      @@Snacks079 and the definition of his Total football is "a tactical theory in football in which any outfield player can take over the role of any other player in a team." Yet so many fake ass Barca fans memeing and moaning that the coach is always "playing people out of position", not even realizing that when he was a player he played under Johan.

    • @defandranurredityo2493
      @defandranurredityo2493 4 года назад +37

      Valid point. We should also notice one of the best youth academy at Atalanta in italy. They've consistently producing remarkable young talents for years, seamlessly integrating them into first team, while achieving excellent results in the end

    • @RasDam
      @RasDam 4 года назад +8

      @@Snacks079 David Winners book Beautiful Orange has numerous interviews with players from the 70s Ajax side that counter your claim. The best football that Ajax side played wasn't under Michels and absolutely no one claims that Cruyff dictated how that side played.
      The football Barcelona played under Cruyff didn't resemble the Total Football in anything but the general formation 433/343 and didn't have an emphasis on la masia graduates. That's something Cruyff only spoke of and tried putting into practice after seeing the success that Van Gaal had with it.
      The legacy of Cruyff shouldn't need to peddle such falsehoods as are commonly stated to proclaim his greatness.

  • @asif5710
    @asif5710 3 года назад +818

    New youngster is coming Pjanic is his name hope he is good

    • @Tifo
      @Tifo  3 года назад +114

      👀

    • @MDRDipro
      @MDRDipro 3 года назад +11

      He's not a youngster

    • @_aleksis.k9484
      @_aleksis.k9484 3 года назад +172

      MDR Dipro no shit idiot

    • @leveled916
      @leveled916 3 года назад +93

      @@MDRDipro r/woooosh

    • @jitinnair9689
      @jitinnair9689 3 года назад

      Really u think him as younster

  • @timothysoo6353
    @timothysoo6353 4 года назад +1762

    Simple explanation, when a club or any company is at a peak for so long. They are more than likely to use all measures to maintain their peak even to the point of undermining what took them here in the first place. From a bigger picture, what we see Barcelona has been doing is no different from what big companies like Microsoft and Apple did to stay on top.
    Edit: You can also see the United States doing similar things at a different level just to stay as the top superpower. they acquire so much debt, fight pointless wars, military spendings etc. It has already undermined the economic prosperity of many Americans.

    • @izzojunior
      @izzojunior 4 года назад +55

      Top comment ✅✅

    • @tetelo1811
      @tetelo1811 4 года назад +20

      Don't forget Sony.

    • @al-amin6516
      @al-amin6516 4 года назад +17

      Timothy Soo does it applies to current man utd too?

    • @net_lag
      @net_lag 4 года назад +1

      Timothy soo. Tell that to Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo.

    • @kevinhanandi
      @kevinhanandi 4 года назад +18

      @@net_lag but the comment is about company or enterprises not individual

  • @der3kg720
    @der3kg720 4 года назад +1023

    Barca have no idea what to do because they are so focused on Messi and his final years so they try to build around him

    • @jjryan1352
      @jjryan1352 4 года назад +20

      Don't think so. They have realized what players are aging and slowly phase them out. They are actually quite good at such transitions. They let the aging legends stay to play 60 minutes or as subs until they finally go out with a nice ceremony, and they are always welcome back as staff or management. They have brought in so many players in the past few seasons, all have done quite well, except for one flop and a few really good ones plagued by injuries (Vermaelen, Rahfina, Dembele, Umtiti and Neymar to some extent). Their only difficulty has been their reaction to losing Neymar so suddenly. They haven't really gotten that 3rd striker which makes a powerful trio, because when you have that you win a lot of stuff (look at City and Liverpool now). Hell they even finally got a backup for Jordi Alba and he's not that old.

    • @youneke
      @youneke 4 года назад +86

      @@jjryan1352 You are so lost it's not funny. The players that are bought has not done well and have not fit into the team much of them not even playing consistently. Politics destroy great clubs and Messi certainly is on his way down.

    • @juniorgonzalez3900
      @juniorgonzalez3900 3 года назад +11

      Youneke Browne That’s why I always liked Real Madrid more. They simply are a football club. While Barca I feel have an identity issue on the politics aspect “more than a club” (Catalonia) vs focusing on football traditions.

    • @b__c7538
      @b__c7538 3 года назад +3

      @@juniorgonzalez3900 That's because Madrid don't want independence

    • @b__c7538
      @b__c7538 3 года назад +3

      @@juniorgonzalez3900 While Barcelona is located in a place with a unique language and culture wanting to separate from Spain

  • @gavindavis8750
    @gavindavis8750 4 года назад +1020

    I remember when Barcelona beat Real Madrid 5-0 in 2010, I don't know if there was a player that wasn't from La Masia that played (other than David Villa) and it was magical. Players like Issac Cuenca, Jeffren, Bojan and even Pedro at the time where all young players who were given game time in one of the most important games of the season. I don't know if they will ever go back to having as much faith in their youngsters as they used to. A real shame, I fear Barcelona will fade into mediocrity once Messi retires.

    • @h3nder
      @h3nder 4 года назад +124

      They likely will.
      When Messi retires most of their big names will leave Barcelona or be too old to do preform at the same level as they do now.

    • @madsin6516
      @madsin6516 4 года назад +57

      The scarier thing is, Messi could leave at the end of THIS season, and I think he should.

    • @h3nder
      @h3nder 4 года назад +3

      @@madsin6516 He should join Manchester United so we have an attacker. :/

    • @n1rmalplayz985
      @n1rmalplayz985 4 года назад +115

      @@h3nder lol no

    • @ratedpending
      @ratedpending 4 года назад +71

      Once Messi retires I think Barcelona will either realize the importance of youth players after 2-3 mid-table seasons, or become Manchester United basically

  • @coffeebreakat2pm
    @coffeebreakat2pm 4 года назад +526

    The board is beyond incompetent in every aspect. They hire bad managers/decision makers with no long term visions and are consistently saved by Messi. The day Messi retires/leaves this club will be in shambles.

    • @philipmeisterl
      @philipmeisterl 4 года назад +10

      626 the Dream as a barca fan i agree when messi is hurt they dont win anything

    • @ma_sch1579
      @ma_sch1579 4 года назад +5

      yes you can clearly see, how Barca struggles recently without Messi or with him in a bad form.

    • @coffeebreakat2pm
      @coffeebreakat2pm 4 года назад +13

      The moment Suarez is done (which I hate to say is coming in the next couple year or so), they will start to apply Band-Aid solution by spending big money on the transfer market. This is the consequence of result based football, the board doesn’t want to go through the phase “rebuilding” when players are getting old, now they have to eat their own shit by keep spending money instead of bringing talents through la masia.

    • @philipmeisterl
      @philipmeisterl 4 года назад +2

      626 the Dream yes but with la masia good you would never have to fully rebuild but rebuild slow and steady

    • @JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw
      @JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw 4 года назад

      Agree 100%

  • @iwantgoals1566
    @iwantgoals1566 4 года назад +186

    Rakitic’s point about the first team being too good for any youth prospect to get in is spot on.
    What frustrates me as a United fan is that most of our first team players clearly aren’t good enough to play for us and yet the youth still don’t get their chance. If we’d been blooding them in properly since the start of the season we’d probably have some consistency by now.

    • @stevencooke6451
      @stevencooke6451 4 года назад +7

      There is plenty of opportunity right now for a young attacking player at United.

    • @mahessara
      @mahessara 4 года назад +14

      Barcelona have a same problem with Man United. They didnt play and manage the club with their own philosophy and identity, instead using galacticos football. Man United start since 2014, and Barca start since 2016. As long as their president still on top, the downfall will always there.

    • @iwantgoals1566
      @iwantgoals1566 4 года назад +1

      steven cooke We’re not seeing enough game time for the likes of Gomes, Garner and Greenwood. Five mins at the end of a game that we’re losing away from home isn’t good enough.

    • @amalmohamed7062
      @amalmohamed7062 4 года назад +3

      iwantgoals 15 exactly it’s frustrating because Gomes should easily slot into that midfield but he’s of in the summer his contract is over and he ain’t getting chances when he knows that he should

    • @stevencooke6451
      @stevencooke6451 4 года назад

      @@iwantgoals1566 I like the idea of giving the young ones a chance to shine. But what do you do with players like Pogba who may not want to be around for this sort of trial?
      I don't think the team had any sort of plan for this year. Fergie must be out of his mind.

  • @Orzel600
    @Orzel600 2 года назад +38

    I love watching this almost three years on with more and more La Masia players coming back or coming through into the first team which is the entire reason for the Barca resurgence this year

    • @tidalcliff2202
      @tidalcliff2202 2 года назад +5

      I know right! La Masia is thriving right now. Barca hit a low but now it's all up

    • @yhawjoey486
      @yhawjoey486 9 месяцев назад +2

      Right we hit low and they were overreacting
      La Masia will always be the greatest

  • @atu8024
    @atu8024 4 года назад +570

    RiP... Yesterday barca lost again in an away game... Their worst start in 25 years

    • @GGININDER591
      @GGININDER591 4 года назад +4

      If they are able to find some new talent to grow in the progress I'm totally fine if they lose a game or 2. It's a growing pain. The thing is that is never the case. It's more problematic if you win the game in a wrong way, or in our case, not the barca way.

    • @SurferWilly
      @SurferWilly 4 года назад +42

      Real Madrid are not so stable neither. This just means that La Liga would be exciting to watch again after so many years. I remember when teams like Deportivo, Atletico, Villareal, Valencia, Betis, Sevilla and even Real Sociedad (Nihat. Alonso, Kovacevic era) were serious title contenders

    • @alfblue4734
      @alfblue4734 4 года назад +5

      Lost to a team that wasn't even in la liga last season lmao

    • @atu8024
      @atu8024 4 года назад +13

      @@SurferWilly right.... Even the epl has become a 2 horse race now....la liga will be exciting this season... Especially if barca keeps Valverde for another season and don't sack him like rn

    • @atu8024
      @atu8024 4 года назад +1

      @@GGININDER591 yea man since last 2 years every time we won.. It wasn't due to our amazing football but just individual quality.. Sometimes Leo or ter stegen... We should focus on the brand of football and after that try to get results...

  • @harrykang8551
    @harrykang8551 4 года назад +632

    Best Football Content on RUclips, No doubt about it.

  • @oudoilleoville1695
    @oudoilleoville1695 4 года назад +32

    I saw an interview of Edwin van der Sar. He told that the game has changed and that they had to adapt to that in Ajax youth academy by teaching the players to play faster than previously.

  • @LordEdmund1973
    @LordEdmund1973 4 года назад +257

    This is why I don't mind the Chelsea transfer ban too much. We've had one of the regularly strongest youth teams in the world, with all this youth talent stored away and never used until eventually they left. That's why we don't have De Bruyne and Salah at the club. The transfer ban forces us to give them a go

    • @filiptalimdzioski7281
      @filiptalimdzioski7281 4 года назад +3

      Oh my god get back to ISorrowProduction

    • @filiptalimdzioski7281
      @filiptalimdzioski7281 4 года назад +4

      @Sam of course youngsters are made for long term plans. So I guess it will pay off one day. I mean chelsea have state of the art and top class academies which Chelsea can use it.

    • @Junior-zf7yy
      @Junior-zf7yy 4 года назад +24

      Sam Reece James, CHO, Tammy, Mount, Tomori, all really good players

    • @Jie67
      @Jie67 4 года назад +3

      You dont have KDB and MS because yous deemed them not good enough and they have went on to better things while yous havent but whatever helps you sleep at night.

    • @manuelkiatoko
      @manuelkiatoko 4 года назад +24

      @@Jie67 We won the league twice since they left. Also it was Mourinho's short term ideas that deemed them not good enough no one else wanted them to go.

  • @zephergaming4437
    @zephergaming4437 4 года назад +136

    Barcelona fans blaming Valverde, no, it’s your board who wants to sign attackers when it’s clear to the entire world that the midfield and defence needs a complete revamp. But you keep focusing on Neymar 👍

    • @rounak471
      @rounak471 4 года назад

      @shane we have pretty good midfield imo with Arthur de jong vidal busquets and vidal also we could play rakitic for league games. we need experienced defender who can play with pique

    • @rounak471
      @rounak471 4 года назад

      @shane he's just 20 bruh just give him time even now he's giving best performance in that position

    • @rounak471
      @rounak471 4 года назад

      @shane my bad he's 22

    • @Attalic
      @Attalic 3 года назад +9

      @@rounak471 Lol, Barcelona are trading Arthur for 30 Year old Pjanic. Have fun with someone you can only use for 3 more years!

    • @rounak471
      @rounak471 3 года назад +5

      @@Attalic yaa mate that didn't aged well🤦‍♂️
      All credits to out stupid miserable board

  • @tg28112o
    @tg28112o Год назад +6

    Gavi, Ansu Fati, Alejandro Balde, Nico, Eric Garcia, you can include Araujo and Torre in the mix as well, are exciting players from la masia. Maybe it was just that the production of big club academies is inversly related to the performance of the first team.

  • @josedavidborges8363
    @josedavidborges8363 4 года назад +28

    To me the greatest youth academy will always be the impoverished streets of Brazil. They just keep pumping out talent after talent, and they have been doing so ever since Pele.

    • @lp.shakur
      @lp.shakur 3 года назад +7

      when the hunger is big, literally, you fight for your dream to better your life

    • @myduck9962
      @myduck9962 2 года назад +1

      The greatest youth facility and system has to go to ajax and Netherlands. Just because the create more than just skillful forwards like Brazil does.

    • @josedavidborges8363
      @josedavidborges8363 2 года назад

      @@myduck9962 There is no other way of quantifying the success of youth development than the titles these once young players go on to win in the big stage. Brazil has 5 world cups compared to Netherland's 0. Yes, Ajax and the Netherlands are known for their more than superb youth systems but taking into account that Brazil does have the same amount of resources and tools available as these youth academies in Europe do, their job at pumping out talent is unequivocally superior.

    • @doggerlander
      @doggerlander 2 года назад

      @@josedavidborges8363 Ajax trains more than dutch players my dude.

  • @behzadmastoor1382
    @behzadmastoor1382 4 года назад +26

    -Iniesta “ The problem is to give them hope and confidence”
    -Pique “Youth players choose money over sports project”
    -Xavi “ Nowadays the youth players are very impatient and demand to be given chances”
    The problem is not just the Hierarchy but the whole system, while Bartomeu kicked every staff of La Masia, and has stated that he will leave in 2020, it will still not solve the problems. Currently the manager is struggling to work with the first team and is not getting the result let alone “a good performance”, and some of the fans as well are very impatient and demand a good result due to Real Madrid’s recent success in UCL, even though Barca has been winning the league consecutively. I believe it’s a cycle of struggle that every successful teams face such as Man United, Arsenal, Milan, And Real Madrid, and the fans should be patience and not forget that the important factor in Barcelona’s success had been good performance.

    • @ComradeOgilvy1984
      @ComradeOgilvy1984 4 года назад +3

      The solvable problem is to build trust in loan programs with second and third tier league teams around Europe. Players with potential need minutes on good teams, not necessarily great teams. They can wait for chances on a first team for a few years as long as they are getting playing time and the opportunity to improve. The loan receiver gets quality players with rough edges for cheap, and they have to be a little careful to not sour the relationship by not giving loaned players enough minutes.

    • @behzadmastoor1382
      @behzadmastoor1382 4 года назад +1

      I believe due to the youth players high wage demand the club and the loan club can’t afford to make a fair deal between each other, and the club as well should focus on the Lon players and not buy superstars that would result to youth players not getting chances after coming from loan.

    • @pragues90
      @pragues90 4 года назад +1

      As a barca fan i would wait for the team to rebuild. That's why i love barca in the first place.

  • @andreicanu6441
    @andreicanu6441 3 года назад +14

    RUclips recomanded this to me right after barca lose 2-8 to bayern

  • @kunwar2558
    @kunwar2558 4 года назад +197

    The very core of this club is rotten at the moment. Everything, from on-field play to the ideology and values, is deranged. The board is the exact opposite of what you expect from a Barca board: marquee signings without any plan (Coutinho and Griezmann), signings that don't fit (Andre Gomes and Paulinho), poor wage bill regulation, poor la Masia management. Everything's is rotten. And Valverde is basically helping them on the field by trying to literally bring barca to bilbao's level as he had vowed to when he was Athletic's coach. And the sad part is that I don't see this changing until the next presidential elections.

    • @sanjith619
      @sanjith619 4 года назад +6

      Paulinho was good tho

    • @kunwar2558
      @kunwar2558 4 года назад +21

      @@sanjith619 didn't say he wasn't. I said the board knew he wasn't the barca type player but still they went for him. Luckily for them, he turned out good.

    • @Ankitsingh-td5sz
      @Ankitsingh-td5sz 4 года назад +7

      This board needs to be replaced right now

    • @kunwar2558
      @kunwar2558 4 года назад +1

      @@Ankitsingh-td5sz couldn't agree more.

    • @Ayoutubeaccount3
      @Ayoutubeaccount3 4 года назад +3

      Pretty similar to Manchester United’s situation

  • @Rosemitchell17
    @Rosemitchell17 4 года назад +4

    Loved the music and production put into this analysis!

  • @silent1547
    @silent1547 3 года назад +9

    Now that the end of an era has been ushered by losses to Roma, Liverpool, and finally the 8-2 loss to Bayern, we can finally start afresh and a new generation of La Masia talent can once again rise.

    • @silvesta5027
      @silvesta5027 Год назад +1

      Damn this comment aged amazingly. A new generation of La Masia talent did indeed rise

  • @jesuscoronado642
    @jesuscoronado642 4 года назад +8

    4:16 this exactly the problem, Barca doesn’t even try now. Thank you for exposing this, great in depth video.

  • @danaassaf4251
    @danaassaf4251 Месяц назад +1

    It's so interesting to see that now, 4 years after the video, Xavi gave the confidence and trust needed to the youth players and we are witnessing the rebirth of la Masia with talents like Gavi, Balde, Yammal, Fermin and Cubarsi

  • @mattkirkhamm
    @mattkirkhamm 4 года назад +14

    when did barca have the most success? the time when they took an old barca player (pep) made him manager of there B team (full of barca youngsters) then made him manager of the A team which he them used a core group of la masia graduates, whom went on to win many league titles, champions leagues and national honours with most of the spain team being la masia graduates. i think the trust in the young players has gone as they are now compared to the greatness of xavi, iniesta, messi, busquets, puyol, pique. players who did amazing. they also brought back fabregas who did great at his time back at barca. the new youngsters are compared with those players which then puts pressure for them to be "the new messi" then when they dont score 60 goals a season they are dissapointed just remember messi's first season wasnt a 50 goals a season, he even took time to get going. also the manager not using a system which they have learnt for the whole life is stupid. spending 100million on a potential star when you probably have 10 potential stars at la masia or in the B team. silly really.

  • @raterrr123654
    @raterrr123654 4 года назад +65

    And Grimaldo now really looks like a future superstar.... Way better than digne...

    • @19joaoreis96
      @19joaoreis96 4 года назад +6

      Nah Grimaldo sucks, let him stay at Benfica. Go after Alex Telles instead pls

    • @samuellarsson101
      @samuellarsson101 4 года назад +3

      The Grimaldo case is just an unfortunate one, apparently had fallen out with Luis Enrique and who wasn't impressed by him

    • @mahessara
      @mahessara 4 года назад +1

      Grimaldo has a same problem with digne, inconsistent. I would rather take Alex Telles or Jose Gaya. From United fans.

    • @goncaloaraujo6644
      @goncaloaraujo6644 4 года назад

      jcr96 Ahaha I got u ahaha PLS GO AFTER ALEX TELLES GRIMALDO SUCKS LET HIM STAY AT BENFICA

    • @josecipriano3048
      @josecipriano3048 4 года назад +1

      @@goncaloaraujo6644 yeah go get Telles instead, goodness knows how much Porto need to sell players to stay afloat.

  • @chilledllama8830
    @chilledllama8830 4 года назад +11

    Great video! It makes so much sense on the current club situations like AC Milan and Manchester United. Its reasonable to think that when you spend a fortune on expensive players that they'll make the team better again, but now thinking back on when these teams were strong, the majority of the players where part of the youth academy of that certain club and it just shows how important it is to incorporate it. Sorta like how Manchester City are always on top because the majority of the players have either known each other for many years, so the years of playing together is why they are where they are at the moment or from the academy, where Ajax last season proved how that factor helped to get where they were in the Champions.

  • @liamwalsh7538
    @liamwalsh7538 4 года назад +2

    Genuinely the best channel on RUclips, thank you.

  •  4 года назад +2

    Great insight, thanks for the information. Another great video as always!

  • @LynkJDL1
    @LynkJDL1 2 года назад +5

    Before everyone comes back in with the gotcha comments, the reason talents are rising this season is through a lowering of the bar as was explained in the video. Standards fell and young and untrusted players got their chance when they otherwise wouldn't have

  • @yodef6828
    @yodef6828 2 года назад +4

    I'm happy to see that this last year this has been changing

  • @treacheroustiger5571
    @treacheroustiger5571 4 года назад +1

    Just when I think Tifo can't get any better you upload this video, well-done guys! 👏

  • @tommymccabe86
    @tommymccabe86 4 года назад +2

    Brilliant video, really interesting to found out why la masia isn’t working now for Barcelona

  • @thegreatcalvinio
    @thegreatcalvinio 4 года назад +269

    What’s wrong with La Masia?
    Next video should be: What’s wrong with Valverde?

    • @rikut9220
      @rikut9220 4 года назад +11

      clueless

    • @sebastianpatriksson7814
      @sebastianpatriksson7814 4 года назад +11

      You’re clueless. It’s the roots that is wrong with la Masia, the president, the board and the system has been undermined

    • @rikut9220
      @rikut9220 4 года назад +7

      @@sebastianpatriksson7814 im saying that valverde is clueless

    • @sebastianpatriksson7814
      @sebastianpatriksson7814 4 года назад +16

      Riku T I just happened to say the same word but I meant TS, valverde isn’t the main problem, he is part of the problem and the core of the problem is the board and the president. People just use valverde as a scapegoat and the board is fine with it as long as the fingers don’t point at themselves

    • @rikut9220
      @rikut9220 4 года назад +5

      @@sebastianpatriksson7814 i dont think anybody thinks that bartomeu and the board arent retarded, but valverde is a problem to

  • @kkpw12
    @kkpw12 4 года назад +11

    When he started taking abt agent one name particularly came in my mind **Mino Raiola**

  • @joswin2240
    @joswin2240 4 года назад +1

    Amazing video...keep up the good work

  • @armanzhylkaidarov3719
    @armanzhylkaidarov3719 4 года назад +1

    Quality analysis. Well done

  • @markravindranayagam1736
    @markravindranayagam1736 4 года назад +5

    Could you please make a video on the new rb Salzburg team under Jesse marsch or a player profile on erling haaland braut.
    Keep the good work up as always👍

  • @mujeebahmed7940
    @mujeebahmed7940 4 года назад +110

    Barcelona have lost their identity.

    • @juanpadilla3613
      @juanpadilla3613 4 года назад +9

      Mujeeb Ahmed their identity that they got in 2004???

    • @jjryan1352
      @jjryan1352 4 года назад +7

      @@juanpadilla3613 exactly. Too many frauds claiming they know what "Barca style" is. Shallow fake ass fans.

    • @juanpadilla3613
      @juanpadilla3613 4 года назад +2

      Mohamed Deeq you’re an idiot for being one of those Barcadogs!!! You’re getting mad for saying the truth!!!

    • @momelendez9691
      @momelendez9691 4 года назад +7

      Leo Prado I’m a Real Madrid fan but they got their identity when Johan Cruyff joined them.

    • @juanpadilla3613
      @juanpadilla3613 4 года назад

      Mohacyr Melendez they got somewhat of an identity because for a very long time they were an average team!!! After they won the CL as Cruyff as manager it took more than 16 years for them to be a competitive team in Europe!! Go figure

  • @alanp.thompson156
    @alanp.thompson156 4 года назад +1

    Great Video the 2011 side which beat Man Utd 3-1 was amazing team. so many out of the youth Academy. The Youngsters are not coming threw the ranks as much as 2000's plus they spending massive in the transfer market. Plus they want Messi to win every game for them he's a great player but the other 10 players need to chip in. Football a team game. Just subscribed look forward to more like this great channel.

  • @shayconaghan
    @shayconaghan 4 года назад +18

    I can't blame you for butchering Txiki's name:

  • @megamind8359
    @megamind8359 4 года назад +45

    As a barça fan i am heart broken!

    • @stevencooke6451
      @stevencooke6451 4 года назад +3

      I don't even feel like cheering for them after landing Griezmann and trying desperately to recapture Neymar.

    • @_kimmy5526
      @_kimmy5526 4 года назад +1

      Honestly as a hardcore fan I don’t see us winning champions league anytime soon especially with Valverde still being our coach and you already know what happened in these past 2 years 😭😓

    • @stevencooke6451
      @stevencooke6451 4 года назад

      @@_kimmy5526 Valverde doesn't seem to believe in that phrase "More than a club".

  • @kingaufswag
    @kingaufswag 4 года назад +4

    Do a video on how Man United have been able to feature academy players in all of their match day squads for so many years

  • @TariqAmazin
    @TariqAmazin 4 года назад +1

    INCREDIBLE CONTENT.

  • @joeyblaq9952
    @joeyblaq9952 4 года назад +1

    Very good piece

  • @choch72
    @choch72 3 года назад +3

    The 1996-2000 Yankees had home grown players and talent that meshed well with eachother. In order to hold onto that success they emptied their farm system, bought high priced free agents and went a decade without a WS appearance. Even missed the playoffs once or twice. This is what Barca is going though. Theyll either figure it out and realize it was developing players that gave them their sustained success or they will be Manchester United.
    There are successful sports franchises who always stick to the plan, so to speak. They ride the ups and downs of that but never get greedy and try to maintain an unsustainable peak.
    Baseball Clubs like the St Louis Cardinals and Oakland A’s. Borussia Dortmund/Ajax. Even Bayern Munich follows this model although they spend big to keep players and even go out and buy stars. They also have an amazing youth development strategy.

  • @noorimanhaqeem6095
    @noorimanhaqeem6095 4 года назад +18

    Do one for spain left back factory: Valencia CF Paterna academy

  • @Nifava
    @Nifava 4 года назад +1

    As a Barcelona citizen and Barcelona fan since 1981 I can say this video is VERY WELL researched. The points made are all true.

  • @spirita4072
    @spirita4072 4 года назад +1

    what do you use to make videos??
    great job btw

  • @TheCipheric
    @TheCipheric 3 года назад +3

    Take it from a United fan, never lose faith in the academy in search of short term solutions ... honestly that’s the only thing which ole is doing right now which is making us so much better ... we spent like crazy past couple of years and still our most dangerous players (after bruno and edi) are rashy and mason who are only gonna get better, I have high hopes from Deano and McT too ...

  • @FireOccator
    @FireOccator 2 года назад +3

    Fear of failure is usually what gets you.

  • @samsonallen2122
    @samsonallen2122 3 года назад +1

    Great video.

  • @celestialrex551
    @celestialrex551 4 года назад +2

    Video on how bundesliga favors high pressing and attacking resilient football alongside tactical defending

  • @silvesta5027
    @silvesta5027 4 года назад +67

    I’m hoping that when Messi retires they will start to play their youngsters more, similar to the situation with Chelsea

    • @MichaelSmith-zv7om
      @MichaelSmith-zv7om 4 года назад +14

      Silvesta it’s not because they sold hazard... it’s because they have a transfer ban, I’ve seen (doesn’t mean it’s factual) that if Chelsea’s transfer ban gets lifted they have £300mil to spend

    • @rounak471
      @rounak471 4 года назад +21

      @@MichaelSmith-zv7om whether it's because of transfer ban or not. The way chelsea are playing under frank Lampard is pretty decent at elite level considering the fact that all of there important players has left the club except kante. Even thou they're not in top 6 there situation is better than man utd for sure . If the Lampard stay at Chelsea for2-3 seasons if may it take it ti whole new level.

    • @MichaelSmith-zv7om
      @MichaelSmith-zv7om 4 года назад +2

      Ask me 7 weeks ago who’s going to be Chelsea’s goal scorer (willian - creative winger, pulisic - creative winger, Pedro - creative winger, giroud or Tammy Abraham) I would have 1 laughed, and 2 giroud 100% there’s no way that a kid who did decently in the championship was going to come and save the day for Chelsea, boy was I wrong. I’m not saying the team isn’t playing well. I’m just saying that if there was no transfer ban it would be a different story signing a top level winger and a new striker

    • @rounak471
      @rounak471 4 года назад +5

      @@MichaelSmith-zv7om completely agree with you. Yes they need to sign an experienced striker and defender next summer but I'm low-key hoping instead of spending 300m on new team Lampard continue with the present with few signings. Maybe cause i like to see team with full of youngsters lifting the trophy rather than a team who spent millions in every window

    • @vishnubalakrishnanp275
      @vishnubalakrishnanp275 4 года назад +12

      Chelsea were forced to play the youngsters. But the fact that Tomori, Tammy, and Mount have been the best players so far will have an effect on how the club will look at the youngsters. Chelsea's youth teams have been dominating both domestically and in Uefa youth leagues (5 finals, 2 titles) and with the likes of Morris and Edwards talented youngsters have more chances of getting into the team. Chelsea will be making smart buys next summer instead of the usual marquee ones.

  • @GabrielLee13
    @GabrielLee13 3 года назад +3

    This video aged like fine wine

    • @8ymat
      @8ymat 3 года назад

      Think again lol

  • @jga1635
    @jga1635 4 года назад

    Great video and well covered but lately it seems like a bunch of players are breaking through. There are real issues that you point out but the system is not totally broken.

  • @alexkyriacou214
    @alexkyriacou214 4 года назад

    It is fantastic to mention a Cypriot team :) Thanks Tifo Football

  • @Deltagamerforce
    @Deltagamerforce 3 года назад +102

    Who’s here after Barca just lost 8-2? I would 8-2 be Barca fans rn...

  • @apjuniorthaking6028
    @apjuniorthaking6028 4 года назад +6

    Do a video about Real Madrid's academy "La Fabrica", please?!

  • @darthhideous8
    @darthhideous8 4 года назад +1

    Has there been a video done on Chelsea's academy? 7 FA Youth Cup in 10 years and 2 time winner of the UEFA Youth League, plus it seems like there's going to be a new generation of academy products breaking through and forming the back bone of the team. Tomori, Reece James, CHO,RLC,Mount and Tammy Abraham.

  • @glenhammond1537
    @glenhammond1537 11 месяцев назад

    Great vid

  • @prabhnoor_
    @prabhnoor_ 4 года назад +18

    What's with the subtitles at 1:56? Forgot to double check? 😂

    • @Titantr0n
      @Titantr0n 4 года назад +2

      That's hilarious, a note slipped into the final script lol.

  • @raghavrathi6591
    @raghavrathi6591 3 года назад +5

    Turns out all they needed was a coach who gave them consistent first team minutes

  • @markusikast8510
    @markusikast8510 Год назад +2

    Gavi, balde, araujo, fati and yamal says hi😋♥️

  • @almasmahir2091
    @almasmahir2091 3 года назад +2

    la masia has emerged again with the hand of fati and puig

  • @liamcorrea3417
    @liamcorrea3417 3 года назад +5

    I cried through the whole video.

  • @MarwanWayne
    @MarwanWayne 4 года назад +7

    Next video: How Marcelo Bielsa could revive La Masia.

  • @ramitamitabh8562
    @ramitamitabh8562 4 года назад +1

    Please do a video on Chelsea academy and what the future holds for them as Lampard has taken over.

  • @haseya2554
    @haseya2554 4 года назад

    I watch these videos and feel sophisticated

  • @jacko4932
    @jacko4932 Месяц назад +3

    la masia is revived now it seems. cubarsi, yamal, guiu, fort, gavi have all come through

  • @shazam1522
    @shazam1522 4 года назад +26

    They had a good system but u cant ignore the fact u cant u cant reproduce xavi iniesta easily. Their philosophy may just hold it back by not acknowledging that sometimes individuals are needed like a ronaldinho. They promoted pedro giovanni and bojan amongst other but momentum can only hide flaws for so long. Look at world football as a whole there are no dribblers. Wheres a new rivaldo denilson djalminha figo. Everythings passing based

    • @isaacasamoa927
      @isaacasamoa927 4 года назад +2

      Dont forget that just cuz a player isnt what u had doesnt mean he isnt good enough now

    • @shazam1522
      @shazam1522 4 года назад

      @@isaacasamoa927 he may be good but he cant meet barca standards. the term world class get thrown about too much these days.

    • @cummerchant542
      @cummerchant542 4 года назад

      Xavi is in retirement so over 20 years since someone like him has been made noice

  • @felipemorales4901
    @felipemorales4901 4 года назад

    Barcelona has wonderful players in La Masia that deserve playing time. One of them is Riqui Puig, who has the potential to become a world-class midfielder. Carles Alena also has that potential. And I do understand the need to win, as a fan, I hate it when we lose. But it is also important to focus on building for the future and signing players from abroad all the time is not the answer. We are lucky Ansu came out of nowhere, hopefully, they'll keep giving him the chances he deserves.

  • @RuthlessX66
    @RuthlessX66 4 года назад +1

    Just like you did with Zidane you should do a video of the struggles of Unai Emery's Arsenal

  • @cheatsmygame
    @cheatsmygame 3 года назад +3

    This should be a wake up call for Barcelona after the 8-2 defeat from Bayern

  • @siddikisiam
    @siddikisiam 7 месяцев назад +3

    We are back
    Gavi,Fermin,Lamine,Guiu

  • @mayurlive
    @mayurlive 4 года назад +1

    Your notes are appearing in the subtitles on 1.56 ( can you ask Simon to double check these numbers) 🤣

  • @Anjeshahirangope
    @Anjeshahirangope 8 месяцев назад +2

    My favourite club in fcb❤❤

  • @darthhideous9084
    @darthhideous9084 4 года назад +63

    How about Bayern's academy? Name me one good player to have come out of it since Alaba.

    • @johnmiguelnang2644
      @johnmiguelnang2644 4 года назад

      Not really

    • @darthhideous9084
      @darthhideous9084 4 года назад +19

      @Cole-Con O Kimmich was bought from RB Leipzig, not developed by Bayern.

    • @johnmiguelnang2644
      @johnmiguelnang2644 4 года назад

      @Cole-Con O nope

    • @viranchimishra3198
      @viranchimishra3198 4 года назад +61

      it's not about other team and their academies. Barca was world-famous for their youth prospects and academy just like Ajax and their downfall will get noticed around the globe.

    • @matafaka2060
      @matafaka2060 4 года назад +1

      Bayern are not that well recognised in producing top youth talents

  • @karehaqt
    @karehaqt 4 года назад +52

    0:31 I must have missed the seasons when Donald Trump managed Barcelona

    • @freeross371
      @freeross371 3 года назад +5

      That would be epic though 😂😂😂 "I'm going to make Barcelona... Great Again!!! 👐"

    • @rossomac21
      @rossomac21 3 года назад +1

      This comment deserved more love.

  • @moutasemhussain
    @moutasemhussain 3 года назад +2

    Apparently this is one of the few stories that didn't appear originally on the Athletic. This must be Joe Divine's work. Well done 👏

  • @joaquimaguiar3565
    @joaquimaguiar3565 4 года назад +1

    Could you do a Tite/Brazil national team tactics explained think it would be interesting

  • @dylanpriest9756
    @dylanpriest9756 4 года назад +16

    La Masia was never anything special. It's ridiculous to believe that players like Xavi or Messi wouldn't be world class in other academies. They simply got lucky with a generation, and people overstate nurture vs nature

    • @moreira6500
      @moreira6500 4 года назад +2

      They had several generations..... How fucking dumb you have to be to say La Masia was never antyhing special.

    • @fandomewhisper
      @fandomewhisper 4 года назад

      It's true. Plus all the cheating they needed to win in their " golden " generation.

    • @shyguy1845
      @shyguy1845 4 года назад

      They still have one of the best academies in the world football.

    • @jb0609
      @jb0609 4 года назад

      You must be a Real fan.

  • @jakubwrona2040
    @jakubwrona2040 4 года назад +22

    Guardiola left the club. That’s what happened.

    • @jjryan1352
      @jjryan1352 4 года назад +5

      Yup. What most people claim to be talking about "Barca style" they really mean Pep style. Because they won so much with him they got spoiled for trophies and bitch and moan when it doesn't happen every season.

    • @brrvi921
      @brrvi921 4 года назад

      Jakub Wrona Because of that rat Rosell obviously...

    • @Stichting_NoFap
      @Stichting_NoFap 4 года назад

      It's more complicated that just 1 person.

    • @cityslacker6221
      @cityslacker6221 4 года назад +9

      It wasn't just Guardiola leaving; losing him along with the two top executives,Txiki and Ferran, along side Pep precipitated this decline. Now, the three of them are building their own La Masia equivalent in Manchester.

    • @liolioliolio1719
      @liolioliolio1719 4 года назад

      @@cityslacker6221 tbh tiki taka was dead but in my opinion barca should have kept triangles throught out the pitch

  • @lolipedofin
    @lolipedofin 4 года назад

    This paradigm is why I am excited about Man United today. To be honest I don't really care about the short term results right now, although the way Ole overturned the season recently before COVID was also exciting.
    After 7 years of decline and heartbreak, we now have a youth that is bubbling with talents waiting to break into the first team, and a manager that is finally place his faith in the youth, having actually overseen the youth system a decade ago. I can't wait to see how this youth starting from Rashford, Greenwood, Williams (, hopefully Pogba too, if he stays committed) and down the ranks, will emerge to be the next spine of the club.

  • @J0EN1DAS
    @J0EN1DAS 4 года назад

    maybe video about chelsea regarding this year they are using their talents such as mount, abraham, loftus cheek, hudson-odoi, christensen and reece james....

  • @WowFoilage
    @WowFoilage 4 года назад +10

    Anyone else keep having Breaking Bad flashbacks whilst watching this?

  • @themrwoody1434
    @themrwoody1434 4 года назад +53

    The 16 year old they have is pretty impressive. Does he count as a La Masia player if he skips the youth teams?

    • @jaydeepbose4501
      @jaydeepbose4501 4 года назад

      No

    • @nabil731
      @nabil731 4 года назад +4

      And also carles perez

    • @WorldView-ys5bz
      @WorldView-ys5bz 4 года назад +6

      Jaydeep Bose yes it does

    • @unstoppableExodia
      @unstoppableExodia 4 года назад +29

      Ansu Fati is a youth product for Barca and he's shown a lot of potential

    • @Crowned-Qwesi
      @Crowned-Qwesi 4 года назад +7

      He was brought on because they didn't have a choice not because they think he deserved a chance.

  • @guidohannessen
    @guidohannessen 4 года назад

    Do a serie about the Ajax academy. What went right and what are the challenges in the future?

  • @lolhappy9286
    @lolhappy9286 4 года назад

    nice video

  • @Personal_Chizo
    @Personal_Chizo 4 года назад +4

    *"La fabríca"*
    I swear to God, you guys are killing me...

  • @HashimyHuseini
    @HashimyHuseini 3 года назад +4

    Anyone here after Koeman brought Youngsters back in the senior team ❣

  • @uvais
    @uvais 4 года назад +2

    Please do "Nothing is right with man utd since Sir Ferguson left"

  • @richieyoung88
    @richieyoung88 4 года назад +1

    Tifo football best content on RUclips

  • @RasenRendanX
    @RasenRendanX 4 года назад +3

    It's pretty crazy if you think about it. Barcelona and Chelsea youth situations have totally reversed.

  • @ayreonate
    @ayreonate 4 года назад +4

    Thiago and Grimaldo and Denis Suarez already left, Roberto and Alena and Sergi Samper are criminally under used inspite of their huge potential . barca buying Dembele for 120M and he is either injured or not played at all because he is a bad fit tactically. same as Vidal, Paulinho, Coutinho, Griezman, Turan, Malcom , Andre Gomez, Paco Alcacer, Vermaelen and the list goes on. basically the the board is throwing ideas on the wall and seeing what sticks. and thinking that money solves everything. its just like Real Madrid's Galacticos and PSG. while clubs like Ajax and Dortmund crush the champions league with their academy graduates.

    • @gaoru
      @gaoru 4 года назад +1

      The thing about clubs like Ajax and Dortmund is that they're not very consistent. Ajax is practically playing UCL every year since the 2000s and last year was the only time they got that far. They get eliminated from the group stage most of the time in the last 20 years. They have a very "romantic and idealistic" footballing system where if everything goes right it's the most beautiful form of football. However, that does not happen too often in modern football. It's been proven time and time again that you have to spend a lot to build a consistent and competitive squad.

    • @ayreonate
      @ayreonate 4 года назад

      @@gaoru Guardiola's Barca is probably the most consistent team in football history and its not just about what they won its that they won using the system that they developed for years and revolutionized tactics in a way that made them basically unplayable. the important thing that they proved it can be done. I agree that their golden generation is very hard to replicate consistently but what is happening now is the complete opposite of what made the club great. Im barca fan and I would'nt mind a transition period every a couple of seasons to refresh the squad and not be as dominant as long as they stay true to their philosophy (promote from within, possession based tactics etc.) but my problem is that they have made an 180 turn and still are under achieving. I loved the MSN era aswell tbh but it was the start of this downfall.

  • @sriramkarthik8568
    @sriramkarthik8568 2 года назад

    Can you make a video on the stylistic differences between Pedri, Nico and Gavi? They all seem like they occupy the same free 8 role

  • @lalboimanlun1230
    @lalboimanlun1230 4 года назад

    The upload timing though....😁

  • @DexOne1
    @DexOne1 4 года назад +5

    Who go after neymar when u can build a 200m worth of squad by just using youth team, if u want to be the best coach or manager try coach someone who is nothing to superstar.
    For me the best manager is the one that makes a player and a team good.
    Even when losing, the fans still believe their team will won.

  • @photovi
    @photovi 4 года назад +30

    Divock
    Origi.

    • @Nicko42069
      @Nicko42069 4 года назад +2

      corner taken quickly...

  • @Whocares0009
    @Whocares0009 4 года назад +1

    Video on La fabrica please.

  • @freddiemercury8625
    @freddiemercury8625 4 года назад

    La Masia still seems to handle things pretty well. Recently they had Ansu Fati and Carles Alena come out of the academy and they seem to be having a prospect over them. I am quite sure that La Masia Crisis is not really that serious, as long as they produce at least a couple decent players a season then it's fine. Riqui Puig and Abel Ruíz also seem to have some promise to themselves as well.