Thawne Has a Drink With Barry | The Flash 9x10 [HD]

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  • @badnoodlez
    @badnoodlez Год назад +5011

    I love how thawne doesn't understand that he's already lost. Even when barry is completely honest with him later it still goes over his head.

    • @jb57551
      @jb57551 Год назад

      That's because Thawne is a 😈Narcissist😈 that only cares about winning against Barry in every way!

    • @BlackFlightNY
      @BlackFlightNY Год назад +384

      When Barry said “you will lose everything”- it was two fold
      Thawne loses in 2000, by getting cut off from the speedforce and stranded there, where he became Dr.Wells
      Also, “you will lose everything” could be a refrence to how he loses to Barry in 2023 after being used by the negative speed force

    • @rcomp99
      @rcomp99 Год назад +190

      Exactly. He knows he can't end barry without ending himself. With no barry, Thawne never finds out about speedsters and how to become one, and thus never becomes one.

    • @Cosmicmorales
      @Cosmicmorales Год назад +40

      @@rcomp99 bootstrap paradox.

    • @byonemesis
      @byonemesis Год назад +31

      ​@@BlackFlightNYThere's a third one : his death from "Negative, Part Two". Subtle but true.

  • @ergob3907
    @ergob3907 Год назад +4172

    Grant and Matt have great chemistry. Wish they had more scenes together.

    • @Cosmicmorales
      @Cosmicmorales Год назад +308

      IM SAYING, AND MFS THINK TOM IS BETTER, MATT BARELY GOT A CHANCE

    • @wyattlundrigan4740
      @wyattlundrigan4740 Год назад +334

      ​@@Cosmicmorales You're 100% right. Tom's version of thawne is overused and extremely nonsensical, especially at this point.

    • @GOKU-px7qd
      @GOKU-px7qd Год назад +157

      @@Cosmicmorales agree tom is brilliant but matt isn't any less, whenever he comes he does make the show intense. ngl people say tom is better because of how many characters he can act

    • @JACQUEZJOHNSON23
      @JACQUEZJOHNSON23 Год назад +8

      ​@@Cosmicmorales perfect said

    • @erg1947
      @erg1947 Год назад +46

      ​@@CosmicmoralesI never really got that, Matt was always great as Thawne whenever he got the chance to play him.

  • @nathanbrownlee9276
    @nathanbrownlee9276 Год назад +4634

    This was a pretty great scene.
    You can really see how Barry changes his tone after realizing that this is the original Thawne that went back in time to kill him as a child.
    Barry knows exactly what’s about to happen and seems almost sad about it.
    Thawne is sitting there thinking it’s because he finally beat the Flash, when its actually quite the reverse.

    • @GZilla311
      @GZilla311 Год назад +392

      Was that pun intended

    • @nathanbrownlee9276
      @nathanbrownlee9276 Год назад +469

      @@GZilla311 fuck yeah it was

    • @taserblaizer377
      @taserblaizer377 Год назад +49

      Nice!

    • @GZilla311
      @GZilla311 Год назад +53

      @@nathanbrownlee9276well done.

    • @mad_titanthanos
      @mad_titanthanos Год назад +39

      I don't get it. How come it's the original Thawne from 2024 Because he acts like he knows this current Barry (wife and child reference). Also, didn't Thawne just arrive at night right from the future? Why is he here hours ago?

  • @JoelMiller431
    @JoelMiller431 Год назад +3490

    Just... For real WHY couldn't we have more of this rivalry between Barry and Matt Letscher's Thawne?!?!

    • @Spacemanfilms2002
      @Spacemanfilms2002 Год назад +536

      Cause CW has this weird obsession with Tom and was never ever able to let him go

    • @e.v.g3926
      @e.v.g3926 Год назад +233

      Tom Cavanagh is more cheaper

    • @Spacemanfilms2002
      @Spacemanfilms2002 Год назад +149

      @@e.v.g3926 yeah we could tell

    • @q.st1m
      @q.st1m Год назад +56

      i think if the last few episodes maintain this level of quality it could redeem itself

    • @thelegendarymarioman8461
      @thelegendarymarioman8461 Год назад +223

      He should have been the main Thawne since season 2

  • @NeonKue
    @NeonKue Год назад +468

    0:40 This is when Barry realizes...this isn't the most recent Eobard Thawne. It's the pre-S1 Eobard Thawne that doesn't even know how his plan to kill younger Barry fails.

    • @TheGreatWhiteCount
      @TheGreatWhiteCount Месяц назад

      This is Eobard from the timeline Wells and Tess were alive! The timeline where Barry had his parents and a daughter called Dawn and had a perfect life, he should've killed him.

    • @NeonKue
      @NeonKue Месяц назад +2

      @@TheGreatWhiteCount Uh yea? That’s the pre-S1 Eobard. Barry can’t kill him, the event is fixed.

    • @themaker2149
      @themaker2149 28 дней назад +3

      ​@NeonKue actually no as tharwn said killing him is the only thing that he could do that wouldn't mess everything up. It's strange but I'm assuming that killing him is like the cosmic joke here It's the one thing that would put everything back to the original time line but it's also the one thing Barry wouldn't do

    • @gajaan316
      @gajaan316 3 дня назад

      @@TheGreatWhiteCount He would also have son named Don. The original timeline (as teased by S1 Wells-Thawne in Season 5 when Barry and Nora went to see him to fix the device) is one where Barry and Iris had twins, Don and Dawn, the Tornado Twins. Hence why Thawne was surprised when Nora said her name, and was like "That's nice......at least you get to keep one of them"

  • @biglenni9486
    @biglenni9486 Год назад +2765

    The Flash has over 180 episodes and Matt's Thawne has only been in 8 of them. Even worse he was basically giving 'villain of the week' status only being the main threat in 3 of the 8 episodes he was in. It's such a shame we couldn't get more of him. Matt and Grant have really good chemistry.

    • @psychoapplesauceeater8562
      @psychoapplesauceeater8562 Год назад +229

      He was the best in Legends

    • @Tradetek1
      @Tradetek1 Год назад +148

      That is true, he wasn’t in flash very much but he always made a big impact every time he was in it. We did get an entire season with him as the main villain in legends of tomorrow though.

    • @OneGaurdian
      @OneGaurdian Год назад +96

      They underused him. What I really wish they had shown was his story from the beginning in the original timeline. There was story there.

    • @ulysses4989
      @ulysses4989 Год назад +49

      Matt is the best reverse flash/eobard thawne.

    • @Gaid152
      @Gaid152 Год назад +34

      @@OneGaurdian Making him antagonist of a season or story would've wasted that chemistry. Bringing him in brought our radars on point like this scene and we knew something serious for the characters was going definitely going down.

  • @robertofabrizioiparraguirr6038
    @robertofabrizioiparraguirr6038 Год назад +1678

    Knowing he's driving Barry nuts its the best thing to happen to him

    • @oluwaseyirahaman1230
      @oluwaseyirahaman1230 Год назад +27

      Totally read that as "driving Barry's nuts"

    • @The_Lovey_Informer
      @The_Lovey_Informer Год назад +3

      Rule34 lmao

    • @endangeredspecies8441
      @endangeredspecies8441 Год назад +27

      Except he isn’t. Barry has full knowledge of how this ends. Thawne is convinced he’s there to stop him; when in reality he’s already at peace with this canon event. Thawne will ultimately lose. He can have this battle.

  • @aaronmehaffey6251
    @aaronmehaffey6251 Год назад +773

    So glad they brought Matt back one last time as Eobard. He's so good in the role.

    • @claymathewselevator8121
      @claymathewselevator8121 Год назад +23

      He’s my favorite

    • @nikkimiddlekillsday5161
      @nikkimiddlekillsday5161 Год назад +9

      He is how we should've seen Thawne after we found out who he really was

    • @madfilms1000
      @madfilms1000 Год назад +13

      I feel like for the time line it makes more sense for Matt to play thawne in this episode because at this point thawne hasn’t stolen well’s identity yet

  • @90snickshows84
    @90snickshows84 Год назад +1497

    Bruh see this is why Matt should have been Thawne after season 1 he just oozes menace and ego naturally just from these interactions. Notice how after season 6 Barry stopped letting Cavanagh’s Thawne get under his skin even after creating a Reverse Flashpoint Barry still managed to remain calm in their interactions but Matt’s Thawne? Boy this man just knows how to push his buttons without even trying

    • @DesignIncase
      @DesignIncase Год назад +153

      Wellosbard is a very emotional version of Thawne. Heck he may not even be human anymore given what he's done to his body and how he existed after being removed from the timeline.
      Barry for the most part isn't as familiar with this version of Thawne. Due to all the Well's he's met. He's forgiven the face.

    • @Souchi-ito
      @Souchi-ito Год назад +39

      He'd develop resistance to this face too if he saw him too much.

    • @saminhuq7757
      @saminhuq7757 Год назад +5

      To be fair, Barry was acting for a good part of the scene (and beyond).

    • @magmaticgames
      @magmaticgames Год назад +25

      Matt encompased Thawne's ego and arrogance brilliantly, while Tom showed Thawne's patience and cunning. You just can't have one without the other.

    • @henrypeters5291
      @henrypeters5291 Год назад +16

      @@magmaticgames Perfectly put. They played two different characters and Barry had to treat them differently. That is something the later seasons' writers forgot.

  • @NateThurlow
    @NateThurlow Год назад +692

    The best thing is that Barry knows where this is all going. He's playing Thawne from the beginning

    • @Pumipimababababa
      @Pumipimababababa Год назад +36

      its like a yin yang. they need eachother to live (not in a gay way)

    • @byonemesis
      @byonemesis Год назад +42

      ​@@PumipimababababaA fact acknowledged by Eobard Thawne himself. Or rather, his comic's counterpart...since he needs Barry to become Flash in order for him to become Reverse-Flash.

    • @Homelander57
      @Homelander57 Год назад +3

      @@Pumipimababababayou had to make it though

    • @spiderrocket8367
      @spiderrocket8367 11 месяцев назад +14

      It's not even playing Barry already knows what he has to do. And he's being genuine when he tells Thawne that he wants him to walk away and get on with his life. Barry has grown to such level of compassion that he even wants to help the man who will ruin his childhood just because he could

    • @JulianGijsen555
      @JulianGijsen555 4 месяца назад

      You missed a lot

  • @roadrage1979
    @roadrage1979 Год назад +343

    The moment when Barry realizes this is the original Thawne…love it!

    • @troyheliodore
      @troyheliodore 6 месяцев назад +4

      Which is weird cuz this thwane is from a time where Barry's parents were alive , so how does he know what this Barry been through?

    • @j0doe1
      @j0doe1 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@troyheliodore It's never actually stated that Barry's parents were alive in the future. We just assumed they were. What Thawne said is probably true, Nora's death is a fixed point in time. We see that when that fixed point is prevented; Barry doesn't even become The Flash.

    • @redhood444
      @redhood444 6 месяцев назад +6

      @@j0doe1the entire show is ran on an alternate timeline which thawne created by killing Nora which makes it a fixed point. The original timeline his mom lived and Barry still became flash but in 2020 not 2014. Reverse flash ends up coming to fight Barry around 2023 and in 2024 he finds out who the flash is and realizes he can time travel back to when Barry was a kid and kill him. That’s why at the end of season 1 we see multiple flashes in the house that night one of them is Barry who caused flashpoint and keeps himself from saving his mom. Thawne whole plan that night was to kill Barry not Nora he only killed her because original Timeline Barry who we never met saved himself

    • @JulianGijsen555
      @JulianGijsen555 4 месяца назад

      🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @JulianGijsen555
      @JulianGijsen555 4 месяца назад

      ​@@troyheliodoreyou missed a lot

  • @mikailb5031
    @mikailb5031 Год назад +1002

    if matt and tom switched turns every other episode after season one or so, it would've made things super interesting because each time barry would be confornted with two different versions that only wish to torture him. Would be even cooler if each season or so they'd teamed up to mess barry up.

    • @jb57551
      @jb57551 Год назад +43

      Wanna make it better? What if Barry met both Thawnes with a 3rd one wearing Henry/Eddie's face?

    • @notj7506
      @notj7506 Год назад +17

      nah cuz the blonde thawne is the one from before he goes back in time to kill him as a child. The "wells" thawne is from after, some point between when he took over wells body and before eddy killed himself

    • @mikailb5031
      @mikailb5031 Год назад +4

      @@jb57551 oooooooh

    • @mikailb5031
      @mikailb5031 Год назад +1

      @@notj7506 I was referring more to if they had written a completely different story/script than they did for seasons 2-9. The story would be totally different so yeah it definitely wouldn't be possible with story we got.

    • @notj7506
      @notj7506 Год назад +1

      @@mikailb5031 i prefer the way they currently use thawne but I do however understand your point

  • @JoelMiller431
    @JoelMiller431 Год назад +721

    "You win. I can't stop you."
    I'm sorry, but I don't even think Wellsobard went that far to Barry in their rivalry. Just Thawne forcing Barry to admit he can't beat him... WOW

    • @ergob3907
      @ergob3907 Год назад +97

      Flashpoint had a great moment of Thawne forcing Barry to grovel to kill his own mother.

    • @wyattlundrigan4740
      @wyattlundrigan4740 Год назад +63

      Matt's thawne is way better than wellsobard. He should have been playing the character all the time instead of thawne. It would have made more sense and obviously would be just better in general.

    • @Cosmicmorales
      @Cosmicmorales Год назад +15

      I mean in a sense he's right, both him and Thawne are an endless paradox.

    • @kurtjeffrey8273
      @kurtjeffrey8273 Год назад +5

      ​@@wyattlundrigan4740 the season 5 reverse flash is goat

    • @jeepamir508
      @jeepamir508 Год назад +20

      The thing is... While, true, Barry cannot stop him. But it's not because he "can't" stop Eobard, he can. The real thing is Barry knew what was going to happen. What needed to happen.
      This moment of him admitting that Eobard has won is Barry finally accepting Reverse Flash actions (killing his mom) in making Barry who he really is.

  • @AutoRevLife
    @AutoRevLife Год назад +115

    I don't think Thawne realizes that this isn't the same Barry he has a history with. Because there's so much more backstory implied here that we've never seen

    • @mattb6369
      @mattb6369 3 месяца назад +5

      For OG-Thawne he's only had a few conflicts with Barry by this point, the distant future when a time travelled Flash "ruined" his life by stopping a catastrophe he wanted to, 2x10-2x11 when Eobard comes back to early 2016 when he still doesn't know his identity to meet Team Flash, and the original 2024 Crisis he seems bound to before going back to the past for this day.

  • @jamiefletcher3186
    @jamiefletcher3186 Год назад +312

    I never expected to see them having a drink together. It’s so weird, yet kinda funny 😂

    • @Lollipop.er42
      @Lollipop.er42 Год назад +29

      I also love how at times he would act like there good friends to suddenly being even more cruel then Wellsobard! (Making Barry admit Eobard won)

    • @jamiefletcher3186
      @jamiefletcher3186 Год назад +6

      @@Lollipop.er42 jokes on him though in the end, ha

    • @alexanderdumas-
      @alexanderdumas- Год назад +7

      Yeah he was enjoying that bud light a little too much

  • @nikhardoshi9486
    @nikhardoshi9486 Год назад +276

    THIS SCENE IS SO GREAT!!! Every single moment if you think from Barry's pov you realize how he is coming to accept everything that is about to happen. He understands his role in this time, he sees Eobard's role and realizes how he is going to terribly fail AND how everything is going to start from this point. Grant's acting, Matt's acting and this scene are just 🤌🤌🤌

  • @JiraiyaSama86
    @JiraiyaSama86 Год назад +103

    Thawne probably interpreted it as Barry walking towards his funeral. Hence, that face at the end. I kind of get a sense of respect that he felt for Barry. Choosing to walk towards his end? He recognized strength and probably that fed further into his jealousy. He recognized courage. And yet....

  • @RP-zl5ix
    @RP-zl5ix Год назад +364

    Both RF from Tom and Matt are great . Tom played the conflicted RF that both hates and loves the Flash family extremely great. He is someone that is mature , calculating and rarely makes mistakes or slip ups due to his experience. He constantly outplayed Team Flash in his 4D chess play.
    Matt on the other hand depicted the ruthless , psychotic, impulsive and immature side of a younger RF extremely well.
    It's CW that made the mistake of using Tom's RF in story parts where Matt's RF would have fit better. They should adapted the script so that it fits Tom's RF more.
    For example Tom's RF fit the whole Nora arc well because they needed some sort of father figure / mentor for Nora which I can't see Matt play.
    On the other end however last seasons Eobard and Crisis on Earth X's Eobard would have worked better with Matt's RF because he is more psychotic , ruthless and has the flaw to overestimate himself due to his youth.
    There is a key difference between both RF.
    Tom's RF has a psychological hold over Barry because he was one of his father figures and mentor. He made him what he is. His betrayal cut very deep into Barry which gives Tom's RF a position of superiority in their encounters.
    With Matt's RF the roles are reversed. Matt's RF feels inferior to Barry. Barry is everything he has ever dreamed of being which is why he is much more suceptible to anger and rage which results in constant failure. Barry is here the one with the psychological advantage.

    • @byonemesis
      @byonemesis Год назад +10

      You said everything clearly.✌️✌️✌️

    • @doodoo5594
      @doodoo5594 Год назад +30

      that’s why i prefer matt’s tbh, it feels much more like he believes his pettiness is actually justified, tom’s eobard should’ve just wanted to go home, his demeanour didn’t fit his later actions at all, he was always calculated but now he’s spent 17 years undercover, the fact that he’s more bombastic later on than matt’s eobard just doesn’t make sense for his character, i do think tom was right for the nora storyline though

    • @RP-zl5ix
      @RP-zl5ix Год назад +12

      @@doodoo5594 Exactly! Couldn't have said it better. Old RF was tired from his own tantrums and has seemingly matured. In the end of S1 he no longer cared about their rivalry. He was willing to create his rival just to get home.
      Him trying to join Nazis in world conquest when he could have gone home makes no sense

    • @tobsonasanya4765
      @tobsonasanya4765 Год назад +4

      @@RP-zl5ix to be fair in season 1 he inherited some if Wells personalit and was not really connected to the negative speed force

    • @doodoo5594
      @doodoo5594 Год назад +5

      @@tobsonasanya4765 i never said they weren’t the same character, in fact my whole point is that they’re meant to be the same character, but they don’t feel like it in the later seasons

  • @anthonystrader8958
    @anthonystrader8958 Год назад +159

    Grant and Matt just have good chemistry together
    really wished we could of gotten more of this duo.

  • @jt6924
    @jt6924 Год назад +146

    Now *that* is Eobard Thawne! Not Wellsobard.

    • @shadowx8145
      @shadowx8145 Год назад +12

      U ain't the same person who like "wellsobard. All u fanboys acting brand new all of a sudden

    • @Jonathanspetduck
      @Jonathanspetduck Год назад +14

      @@shadowx8145 relax bud

  • @nicktroisi6347
    @nicktroisi6347 Год назад +607

    Thawne is such a petty little man and I love it. The tension between these two was so awesome to watch
    This is one of the greatest episodes of the series by far

    • @judgedredd2039
      @judgedredd2039 Год назад +12

      Its funny because his Pettiness would ultimately dooms him.

    • @nicktroisi6347
      @nicktroisi6347 Год назад +12

      @@judgedredd2039yep, if only he had listened to Barry and left, unfortunately Nora’s death is a fixed point, however Thawne got what he deserved being trapped and and without his speed

    • @nnamdiuyalorjr2896
      @nnamdiuyalorjr2896 Год назад +2

      @@nicktroisi6347 Agreed.

  • @penuelodiaka6359
    @penuelodiaka6359 Год назад +45

    Imagine if, after Barry said "I know, I can run towards it," Thawne thinks "Wait what? Ok now _his_ goals are beyond my understanding"

  • @hydrodrift
    @hydrodrift Год назад +39

    I like it when Barry and Thawne talk to each other instead of trying to rip each other’s throats out.

  • @anthonydavis2663
    @anthonydavis2663 Год назад +100

    “I wanna hear you say it.”season 3 reference

    • @rosado674
      @rosado674 Год назад +20

      Oh yes, that is right. It was when Eobard was kept in a cell asking him to say this...😮

    • @Lollipop.er42
      @Lollipop.er42 Год назад +9

      THIS is why he is the best thawne. He’s sadistic and not someone who screams when he’s won

    • @tobsonasanya4765
      @tobsonasanya4765 Год назад +2

      @@Lollipop.er42 both versions do that

    • @GSG02590
      @GSG02590 6 месяцев назад

      The resolve Barry has not to reach across the table and not strangle the life out of him, or lock him inside a makeshift prison.

    • @rahuld.2015
      @rahuld.2015 5 месяцев назад

      Speaking of season 3...what really happened to season 3 Eobard after he got killed by black flash?

  • @timelessr9407
    @timelessr9407 Год назад +48

    This scene was meticulous crafted, probably the best scene of the season. It’s like they put all their effort into one scene and take bathroom breaks through the rest

  • @papetv9864
    @papetv9864 Год назад +78

    Why did they waste the whole season and make it trash but actually make the last few episodes good😂💀

  • @toddschouweiler3623
    @toddschouweiler3623 Год назад +45

    Thawne having a glass of beer in his hand seemed appropriate, since he always did seem like someone who was drunk with power.

    • @jayden8357
      @jayden8357 Год назад +10

      Delicious

    • @darkassassinkantafly
      @darkassassinkantafly 10 месяцев назад +3

      And having Barry, someone who has the same potential to get equally drunk with power, refusing to drink.
      It's probably not intentional by the writers, but it's still a cool metaphor none the less.

  • @RastaGamesful
    @RastaGamesful Год назад +88

    Really love how they comeback Matt as OG Reverse Flash that's perfect...
    Really good episode.

    • @piratealoomuere934
      @piratealoomuere934 Год назад +11

      They had to, cause this is thawne before meeting harrison wells so he couldnt have his face.

    • @SatoreyGojo
      @SatoreyGojo Год назад

      @@piratealoomuere934 never stopped them before actually scratch that I cant keep up with where wells rf timeline is

    • @piratealoomuere934
      @piratealoomuere934 Год назад

      @@SatoreyGojo He is just a time remnant, brought by the negative speedforce every time he gets defeated.

    • @theoutsiderjess1869
      @theoutsiderjess1869 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@SatoreyGojo I think s5 matt was busy at the time so they did a hybrid thing

  • @alexanderhussussian5653
    @alexanderhussussian5653 Год назад +94

    Nothing like a drink with your arch nemesis

  • @eshaandwivedi4921
    @eshaandwivedi4921 Год назад +21

    Thawne saying “delicious” should become a meme to be honest.

  • @raggedrec
    @raggedrec Год назад +43

    Flash writers/showrunners the real villains they robbed of this amazing duo for 9 seasons

  • @sixg
    @sixg Год назад +479

    They wasted matt letscher 😔 he should have been main thawne since season 2

    • @jaydenwilson8371
      @jaydenwilson8371 Год назад +26

      Yea tbh

    • @thelegendarymarioman8461
      @thelegendarymarioman8461 Год назад +16

      Honestly yes

    • @SnowyTundra
      @SnowyTundra Год назад +28

      imo tom had was better at being terrifying af

    • @dbztranks6601
      @dbztranks6601 Год назад +19

      Every appearances should've been a different one time tom one time matt just to mess with barry

    • @ergob3907
      @ergob3907 Год назад +16

      Legends of Tomorrow Season 3 uses him a lot but yeah

  • @paydo7719
    @paydo7719 Год назад +50

    Barry knows everything...thawne has no idea what he's doing to himself,briliant!!!

  • @justinc882
    @justinc882 Год назад +47

    Man Thawne is such a great villain. The stuff with him in it is so good. Wish the show hadn't gone so stupid in later seasons.

  • @johnstevenson1861
    @johnstevenson1861 Год назад +25

    This was the day Thawn created a hell of his own making. Stuck in a long endless cycle while every other Barry is finding ways to move forward. No matter how many times Thawn says he wins he still loses. Thanks to anyone who reads this.

  • @RightBoyKA-POW
    @RightBoyKA-POW Год назад +34

    Imagine being stuck on an island with the person you hate the most.
    That's basically how this feels.

    • @Drifter1989
      @Drifter1989 Год назад +4

      Island, you say? Oliver would know the feeling

    • @farscape1714
      @farscape1714 Год назад +2

      Like Marriage.

  • @strage_6182
    @strage_6182 Год назад +37

    It feels like we're in 2014 watching the 1st season of this great (for whose time) show!!! Love Matt's and Grant's chemistry

  • @dacaba
    @dacaba Год назад +88

    This scene it's everything

  • @U-A-V
    @U-A-V Год назад +310

    Jesus did they hire new writers for the final arc
    This aged like milk

    • @BobJTMarts
      @BobJTMarts Год назад +20

      Hahahahha honestly

    • @VenomtheOne
      @VenomtheOne Год назад +37

      too little, too late.

    • @nazomius7033
      @nazomius7033 Год назад +54

      This was likely planned since Season One. It doesn’t change the fact that this show has sucked for years.

    • @moosenothuman
      @moosenothuman Год назад +12

      ​@@nazomius7033 doubt, i think its a completely different writing staff now

    • @jumpcutfilms1958
      @jumpcutfilms1958 Год назад +14

      I think they just hired writers in general

  • @exknight39
    @exknight39 Год назад +45

    Love to see Matt as Thawne. Wished we had more of him

    • @claymathewselevator8121
      @claymathewselevator8121 Год назад +6

      He was great on Legends and as an anti hero as well

    • @Cosmicmorales
      @Cosmicmorales Год назад +1

      ^

    • @rickyhuynh4641
      @rickyhuynh4641 4 месяца назад

      Bizarro: Im you. only but Bizarre.
      Reverse Flash: Im you. only but reverse.
      Bizarro is the clone of Clark Kent/Kal El. He has bad grammar or speech. Reverse Flash could have been Barry allen's clone. His name is Allen Barrick, named after Barry and Garrick, not some time traveler named Eobard Thawne. Savitar is actually a clone of Barry allen.

  • @byonemesis
    @byonemesis Год назад +34

    What's even scarier is that this Reverse-Flash didn't do anything yet disguised as Harrison Wells, and yet, he knows what he had done to Barry so...I'm now sure he knows EVERYTHING just like his comics counterpart (he remembered EVERY deaths, EVERY changes).

    • @nemoisblue
      @nemoisblue Год назад +8

      he knows the timeline being from the future and having the records, but to experience the events first hand as they lay out is another thing :v

    • @byonemesis
      @byonemesis Год назад +7

      ​@@nemoisblueIndeed...And yet, that's how he pulled EVERY conflicts in the comics, including the Flash Wars. He even went as far as making Hunter Zolomon becoming Zoom and August Heart becoming Godspeed. That's how scary Eobard Thawne can be...

    • @redtech4798
      @redtech4798 Год назад +2

      He met Barry in S2 prior, I suspect he fought with Barry maybe a year from now or something. Somehow he learned Barry's identity though

    • @byonemesis
      @byonemesis Год назад +2

      @@redtech4798 That was his very first encounter with Flash, but he didn't know his identity back then. That's only when he returned to his time and fought a future version of Barry that he continued to dig some research about who the Flash is and he found out eventually.

    • @redtech4798
      @redtech4798 Год назад +1

      @@byonemesis no lmao he was a flash fanboy he was obsessed with him, he did all the research he could but as we learn from s5 the flash museum is wrong and incorrect abt many things. Its obvious bc if u look at flashpoint he says that they have to correct time by killing barry's mom, that only makes sense if killing barry's mom is a fixed point like we're told.
      If the og timeline was ever true it was retconned by s2, and i don't think it was bc the newspaper is from this timeline not another one, as it changes when THIS BARRY loses powers.

  • @ianr.navahuber2195
    @ianr.navahuber2195 Год назад +13

    0:37 Barry: "Interesting.... you are THAT Thawne"
    It will always be funny how THIS Thawne (Matt Letscher's version), was the one who was said to have fought Barry many times before (from Thawne's perspective), before earning barry's identity and acting his plan of "trying to kill barry as a child" (that would leave him stuck in the past and set into the path of becoming tom cavanagh's reverse flash) but we never actually saw that.
    Only in S2 EP 11, where we saw Thawne meeting Barry for the first time (from his perspective).
    Which is such a shame. Matt's Reverse flash was more an enemy of the legends than barry.
    It would have been interesting having matt's reverse flash be a co-villain of a season, him orchestrating attacks from the shadows (as him being objectively slower than barry, would force him to rely on cunning to defeat him), until finally learning barry's secret identity. ending the season with him declaring he will go back in time to kill barry as a kid (thus seeing almost all of the events leading to the series premiere)

  • @AndrewUchiha4747
    @AndrewUchiha4747 Год назад +26

    Now THIS Thawne. This Thawne actually scares me.
    He’s way more arrogant and brutal compared to HR Thawne.
    He faces the heroes head on and dares them to try something. This is no coward

  • @EpicBeard815
    @EpicBeard815 Год назад +25

    Wild how they got two great performances out of a single character

  • @lessermook7608
    @lessermook7608 Год назад +6

    "You seem tense, i really think you should try it- "
    Always the jokester.

  • @LCNighthawk
    @LCNighthawk Год назад +19

    The final arc it’s the beginning of the flash now that’s iconic

  • @Montesama314
    @Montesama314 11 месяцев назад +6

    Eobard believes this will be his greatest victory.
    But some will say... It's the reverse.

    • @nahimm
      @nahimm 10 месяцев назад

      I’m dead 😭

  • @jumpcutfilms1958
    @jumpcutfilms1958 Год назад +11

    Damn I really can't tell who I prefer playing Thawne, Tom and Matt are both so good in their own unique ways

  • @kalorakalora
    @kalorakalora Год назад +7

    Man, Matt Letscher makes this show so much better. I havent even watched in years but will still click on some of his scenes when they pop up. Wish they would've used him more, he brings out the best of the show. Legends season 2 was also the only really solid season, because once again, Matt Letscher

  • @spider-man8795
    @spider-man8795 Год назад +7

    What I noticed here is when Barry speaks to Thawne about not killing him as a child earlier he says at the 2:00 minute mark why he says why couldn't Thawne just wiped him off the face of the Earth. I just thought it was a nice callback to season 1's finale where in that episode Thawne's locked up in the pipeline and tells Barry why he killed his mother that night and he says similar words to what season 9 Barry had just said to Thawne in the year 2000. Honestly, this episode wasn't just the best episode of the season but the episode of all time. Really liked how everything came full circle and we saw the events of the night from Season 9's Barry POV. I know there are theories of him being the Original timeline flash but to be fair in my opinion this is just the post-crisis version of the March 18, 2000 fight.

  • @arielc.9081
    @arielc.9081 Год назад +51

    The way they portrayed this is amazing actually because usually Thawn is the smarter of the two being from the future he usually knows everything that has and will happen but what makes this episode so special is that this is but Barry's last time meeting thawn while also being time he meets the youngest thawn possible.. meaning this thawn is young and dumb. Barry's warms him and instead of taking the word of the guy who not only doesn't really lie but is from the future so he would know. The last time this Thawn saw Barry was the oldest possible Barry. It's the 'The Time Traveler's Wife', (good show) in this shooter man who lives traveling accidently back in forth through time as he gets older always meeting the love of his life at different ages. There's a point in their lives where the oldest version of himself is sent back to the time where his wife was her youngest self, a little girl. Barry is now that old man and Thawn is that little girl

    • @lamentslounge
      @lamentslounge Год назад +6

      the youngest is not this guy , this one is after thawn came in season 2 even harry says it that this is where he learns who the flash is and who harrision wells is , also this barry is younger than his becasue all of the events happen sooner than they were supposed to his barry was mid 30s our barry i early 30s

  • @shoazdon7000
    @shoazdon7000 Год назад +20

    I think they definitely underused Matts thawne but Toms thawne was just as good. Especially in season 1. It’s just a shame we didn’t get to see more of Matt

    • @geminiandromeda8082
      @geminiandromeda8082 Год назад +3

      Tom's Reverse Flash stopped being interesting after S1, after that he's the most generic ass dude with the "I'm gonna kill you and your friends mentality"
      Except maybe for Armageddon but even that was stupid af

  • @DMobi
    @DMobi Год назад +10

    For the people talking about Matt's role as Reverse Flash, if it means anything he did great job in season 2 of Legends of Tomorrow.

  • @FeilanWolfProductions
    @FeilanWolfProductions Год назад +8

    If I were Barry I wouldn’t be able to hold back a “You have no idea how bad your days going to get after tonight. You have no idea how hard your own hubris is going to destroy you”

    • @Cosmicmorales
      @Cosmicmorales Год назад +5

      nah, he did the right thing he had no other choice but to endure what was gonna happen, its all destiny.

    • @brawl8
      @brawl8 Год назад +3

      Barry got it all out of his system with all his past encounters with thawne. Especially when he 1st learned it was thawne. But after dealing with the same douche for so long it’s not worth it. You feel pity for him. It kills Barty because he has to let this toxic fanboy kill his mother. I’m not doing so creates a bad timeline. The best outcome comes from letting this maniac kill his mother. He has the power to stop it. Stopping it is the worst choice.
      Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

  • @dannybenhur6123
    @dannybenhur6123 Год назад +7

    Barry outgrew Cavanaugh' Thawne but not Matt's Thawne... It's amazing to have both Thawne's.

  • @Goldharted
    @Goldharted Год назад +13

    That’s OUR FLASH! INDOMITABLE AND FOWARD MOVING THROUGH, NO MATTER WHAT! 3:04

  • @AkshatSTR8EDGE
    @AkshatSTR8EDGE Год назад +13

    Pretty great acting, Barry is so mature and tired at this point, he has given up and accepted that eobard is a tormented soul that cannot be saved. He gave his last shot and yet eobard is just too deranged.

  • @ceilingfanenthusiast6041
    @ceilingfanenthusiast6041 Год назад +6

    Man I really loved Matt Lescher's thawne. He really felt like Reverse Flash. Petty, crazy, charismatic, genius. Tom Caneagh was incredibly in season 1 and I liked him in season 5, but I really wish all of the other reverse flash scenes had been Matt. I mean for one it would have made more sense.

  • @bryandiaz6597
    @bryandiaz6597 7 месяцев назад +2

    What I love most about this scene is that Barry, through all his experiences and adventures, has become a seasoned hero. So much so he’s finally become THE Flash(sorta) that Thawne always references. The one that’s got years under his belt, that one that knows what he’s doing.
    S3 Thawne to S3 Barry:”The you I know from the future, he’s not this stupid”
    Thawne to S9 Barry:”You always were smart”

  • @boredgamer7841
    @boredgamer7841 10 месяцев назад +3

    This is probably the only time the dialogue in the show between Barry and a main villain doesn't feel completely forced and artificial. It isn't written like one of those awful monologues where a character just drones on and on forever about some contrived "life lesson". Just sheer hatred from Eobard, and the delivery of "Delicious" is just perfect, so much spite. I am so glad they didn't give this to Tom. He would've just ruined it completely with his goofy "menacing" whispering. Matt does the character so much better than Tom and I don't know why they kept giving the role to that whispering goofy buffoon.

    • @nahimm
      @nahimm 10 месяцев назад +1

      Fr like is his voice stuck on whispering mode? It’s overused and annoying

    • @boredgamer7841
      @boredgamer7841 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@nahimm in Season 5 his portrayal of the character became so goofy that I couldn't take it seriously anymore. When he finally rips off cicada's dagger from his chest and kill all those people I half expected Tom And Jerry sound effects.

    • @nahimm
      @nahimm 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@boredgamer7841 😂😂 and his new suit sucked it looked so tight on him he looked like a old man in a cosplay.

  • @Montesama314
    @Montesama314 8 месяцев назад +1

    I like how Eobard is just kicking back with a beer. I would imagine that food and drink preparation is different a few centuries into the future, so tasting a 2000s beer would be a unique experience.
    I wish I could go back to 1995 and pick up a Pizza Hut pepperoni pizza.

  • @slackstarfish8133
    @slackstarfish8133 Год назад +8

    This dynamic has always been the best part of the entire show

  • @TDKiller415
    @TDKiller415 Год назад +4

    These two shared so little screentime together in 9 seasons that this one scene was like Al Pacino and Robert De Niro in the restaurant in Heat

  • @brycetheman3076
    @brycetheman3076 Год назад +56

    didn’t thawne go back into time to kill young barry during a fight where they traveled back into time moments before

    • @CommanderBlackout31
      @CommanderBlackout31 Год назад +10

      I think this is that same Thawne

    • @wyattlundrigan4740
      @wyattlundrigan4740 Год назад +36

      Yeah, but it's different here. Instead he was just spending the entire day in this exact day before he decides to kill young Barry, whereas in season 1 both him and the og flash came out of a time portal moments before young Barry is tucked in by his parents.

    • @90snickshows84
      @90snickshows84 Год назад +10

      @@wyattlundrigan4740 yea but because the timeline changed and the crisis happened back in 2019 the night had to happen differently

  • @PhantasmalDemon
    @PhantasmalDemon Год назад +4

    All he had to say was "I forgive you" and Thawne would have exploded in confusion

  • @mysterbullbox5198
    @mysterbullbox5198 Год назад +4

    I thought he was going to say : you can't walk away without finishingyour beer cause i paid for it"

  • @jeremiahjohnson4981
    @jeremiahjohnson4981 Год назад +6

    Eobard Thawne is the new definition of a Time travelling Serial Killer, he even sounds like one when he talks about his "Parental get together".

  • @andrewkind2820
    @andrewkind2820 Год назад +2

    So a superhero and his arch nemesis walk into a bar......

  • @carlosparga8378
    @carlosparga8378 Год назад +11

    Now who’s the villain Flash, Now who’s the villain!

  • @MrDCWood
    @MrDCWood Год назад +5

    As much as I love the chemistry between Grant and Tom Cavanagh’s rendition of Thawne, I love the interactions between Grant and Matt Letscher even more. If for no other reason than their confrontations were rarer throughout the show’s run.
    Matt was every bit as malevolent, menacing and sinister as Tom was in the role in the Reverse Flash, and his contributions to why Thawne was the Arrowverse’s greatest villain cannot be overlooked. Not just for how brilliant he was in The Flash, but also in Legends of Tomorrow Season 2 as part of the Legion of Doom.

  • @jonatasdanielgomesdossanto538
    @jonatasdanielgomesdossanto538 Год назад +7

    Imagine the scene a Super-Hero and his Greatest Arch-Enemy drinking together in a bar or in a coffee shop and talking as if they were best friends like you the clear tension of anger between the two but one of them is sarcastic and provocative (The Villain) like can you imagine happening with Batman and the Joker or Superman and Lex Luthor maybe with Captain America and the Red Skull or Spider-Man and the Green Goblin it would be super awesome.

  • @Suedeash
    @Suedeash Год назад +7

    They wasted Matt in this show. Realistically Tom as Eobard in season 1 was enough.

    • @timelessr9407
      @timelessr9407 Год назад +1

      To top it off, the RF in the finale seen with the other speedster villains is Tom too

    • @Suedeash
      @Suedeash Год назад

      ​@@timelessr9407 😢 that sucks man

  • @christopherstone4336
    @christopherstone4336 Год назад +4

    Thawnes face at the end. I wonder if he just started having doubt.

  • @satan6390
    @satan6390 Год назад +4

    Thawne looks like he came a little bit when he heard that😂😂

  • @TheDeathmail
    @TheDeathmail 6 месяцев назад +1

    Barry not trying to change things is such a huge character growth scene.... T^T

  • @krism2879
    @krism2879 Год назад +3

    I just wish Season 9 ended with this episode. I could care less about Blue Cobalt or Red Death. I actually wish what they did was they sent Barry to the future to show it from Thawnes perspective and show why he truly hates Barry. When Barry saved the crowd and prevented Thawne from being the hero…that should have been the start of Season 9 and extend across the events that lead to Thawne killing Barry’s mom.

  • @AzguardMike
    @AzguardMike Год назад +4

    Flashpoint Thawne - the you i know from the future, he's not this stupid
    Season 9 Thawne - you always were smart 0:48

  • @razzer64bits
    @razzer64bits Год назад +18

    Finally... Season 9 just got better.
    I missed Thawne so much.

  • @troll_486
    @troll_486 Год назад +3

    "put me in Iron Heights" ....
    And exactly do what by that? since its 2000 and there are no meta dampeners? and he can't time travel

  • @vanshgarg5514
    @vanshgarg5514 Год назад +5

    Tom's Thawne is great, but he could never gloat in the misery of Barry like Matt's Thawne can. Could. His version just enjoys the flash's pain to much, its criminal how underused he was

  • @neverendingproductions7171
    @neverendingproductions7171 7 месяцев назад +2

    Grant will continue to be the best flash we will ever have.

  • @fameasser123
    @fameasser123 Год назад +4

    Why did they keep on using Wells as Thawne and not his original face/actor?

    • @byonemesis
      @byonemesis 9 месяцев назад +1

      Matt was unavailable for S4 and S5 due to being on Narcos.

  • @Invisob
    @Invisob Год назад +2

    Imagine being a regular at this fine establishment and you hear these two talking about this at the next table. 😂

  • @popedonking
    @popedonking Год назад +3

    This is the moment Barry realized this is not a current version of Thawn.

  • @alvincarter7203
    @alvincarter7203 7 месяцев назад +2

    This makes no sense Barry would have been a kid and Thawne hasn't been born yet so how are they using their ids to get a drink?

  • @jxlennn
    @jxlennn Год назад +4

    Matt parallelsBarry way more than Tom did (and he’s actually a lot more built to be reverse flash than Tom) I just wish they used Tom a lot less. I hope we see Matt in the redesigned reverse flash suit

  • @mrdarkavocado1113
    @mrdarkavocado1113 4 месяца назад +1

    The fastest clips alive

  • @raulmedina9099
    @raulmedina9099 Год назад +3

    Tbh im glad that we don’t have Harrison/Orson Wells reverse flash again because I’m getting tired of seeing his ass being the bad guy all of the time.

  • @chickenwinghero6275
    @chickenwinghero6275 7 месяцев назад +1

    He should’ve said “I can run towards it.” It was practically gift-wrapped for them 😂

  • @NICKatronMC
    @NICKatronMC Год назад +5

    Tom is amazing; I know, you know. You don't need me to tell you
    But a good chunk of my favorite scenes from the show are the interactions between Matt's Reverse Flash. I always loved when he appeared on the screen, especially now, since Barry is a more experienced version of himself than he was back in Season 3 and prior
    I was honestly really bitter about how the Reverse Flash was handled in the last season, especially with the whole nonsense about the forces. So this episode managed to do some really effective damage control to reignite my investment towards the character

  • @AtlantaHoodHistorian
    @AtlantaHoodHistorian Год назад +2

    Thawne said DELICIOUS 😂

  • @veemon9280
    @veemon9280 Год назад +4

    The moment Barry realizes that he is just there to fulfill the paradox with Eobard Thawne.

  • @gatzabba3746
    @gatzabba3746 5 месяцев назад

    I like how Barry knew what Thawne wanted him to say. They know each other so well.

  • @dyent
    @dyent Год назад +3

    If Thawne were to succeed, there would never be a Flash, so he would never want to be like Flash, and wouldn't be motivated to create the reverse speed force, so he would no longer have the motive or means to go back and kill Barry

    • @kingorange7739
      @kingorange7739 Год назад

      The show does not rely on the grandfather paradox. Though it does cover that through the fact that killing Barry's mom did cause Thawne to lose his speed.

  • @kushalbiswas3507
    @kushalbiswas3507 Год назад +2

    Wish we could see reverse flash origin. The moment he decide to become flash and failed then truned into reverse flash

  • @roachct9076
    @roachct9076 Год назад +13

    Eobard thinks this is OG barry

  • @garymcnabb5452
    @garymcnabb5452 Год назад +2

    thawne would have succeed in erasing from existence if he didn't go out of his way to gloat about it in his face

  • @JG-jo8rt
    @JG-jo8rt Год назад +3

    I actually like how we didn’t get Matt’s version until the end, since he technically starts off (and now finishes off) the cycle with the Flash and himself to me I enjoyed seeing this version be the one who returned in the end so the Flash could finally complete the cycle with the REAL Thawne once and for all, needed to be saved for the final season honestly

  • @malkeytone3285
    @malkeytone3285 Год назад +2

    Was always too much residual Respect Barry had for Tom Cavanaugh’s Reverse flash, because he was his mentor. With Matt it’s just pure hatred

  • @Natie-vw8vt
    @Natie-vw8vt Год назад +13

    Pagey was right

    • @rodrigocandia1937
      @rodrigocandia1937 Год назад +4

      What did he said?

    • @Natie-vw8vt
      @Natie-vw8vt Год назад

      @@rodrigocandia1937 that eobard wants to kill Barry as a child which he never did so it was his last option