John Obi Mikel settles the age old Messi vs. Ronaldo debate | Taking The Mikel - The Obi One Podcast

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2023
  • After being criticised for previous comments about Cristiano Ronaldo, John Obi Mikel sets the record straight. And he’s not a man for turning as he wades into the age old CR7 v Lionel Messi debate. 👀
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  • @chukwuemekaigbani7070
    @chukwuemekaigbani7070 5 месяцев назад +49

    Obi shared a Pitch with both guys at the highest level, And he gives an Opinion, kids who haven't played in amateur competitions are making noise

    • @Shineshinebobo01
      @Shineshinebobo01 5 месяцев назад +2

      Bro you're a GOAT🤣🤣🤣

    • @chukwuemekaigbani7070
      @chukwuemekaigbani7070 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Shineshinebobo01
      Aren't we all

    • @wc899
      @wc899 3 месяца назад

      That's' your opinion, and you haven't played any competition too

    • @zakariadjouzi660
      @zakariadjouzi660 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@wc899but he's not crying on Obe calling Messi thé GOAT you deluded Ronaldo fans are Lmfaooooooooooooooooooo

  • @finandagames4762
    @finandagames4762 5 месяцев назад +19

    It's true what Mbappe said. If you love Ronaldo too much, you won't see the greatness of Lionel Messi

  • @John-cj9er
    @John-cj9er 5 месяцев назад +38

    Who’s the greater goalscorer is a debate, who the greater player isn’t a debate

    • @RedDevilSkillz
      @RedDevilSkillz 5 месяцев назад

      not really much of a debate. Goal scorer maybe but Messi is severely ahead in finishing in terms of statistics. Goal scoring he is also ahead but not by as much

    • @John-cj9er
      @John-cj9er 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@RedDevilSkillz Exactly. And u think how many times Messi would square to a teammate in a better position compared to CR7

    • @ElDragow
      @ElDragow 5 месяцев назад

      It’s Ronaldo

    • @ElDragow
      @ElDragow 5 месяцев назад

      @@RedDevilSkillzhe isn’t. Dwarf scored 6 goals in a farmers league.

    • @BBB-ajajaj
      @BBB-ajajaj 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ElDragowMessi scores much more outside the box. More freekicks and he needs less oportunities. CR7 is better in the box, better with Header and better at penaltys. Messi scores all 103 min in hes Carrier and CR7 all 113. but for myself it isnt a debate about dribbling playmaking passing assisting and creativity.

  • @LiamsFriendStewie
    @LiamsFriendStewie 5 месяцев назад +19

    The Messi x Ronaldo debate is now a footballing IQ test for me. If you're NOT Portuguese or a Lisbon/United/Madrid/Juve fan and you think Ronaldo is better than Messi, then I no longer want to debate football with you because you don't 'get' football. If you ARE Portuguese/Lisbon/United/Madrid/Juve fan and you think Ronaldo is better.. then it makes sense.

    • @ubaidmalik2517
      @ubaidmalik2517 5 месяцев назад +7

      Many people started supporting those teams because of Ronaldo 💀 your point makes zero sense alot of young players idolise Ronaldo including Mbappe you think they don’t know ball 😭

    • @therodian96
      @therodian96 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@ubaidmalik2517 Not only Mbappe, in fact many of the young players on top of their game at the moment grew up idolising Ronaldo. Incredible arrogance in that comment, saying anyone who sees Ronaldo as the Goat has no ball knowledge. I'm neither Portuguese nor a fan of any of these teams and in my opinion Ronaldo is the Goat, but I would never think of discrediting someone who disagrees with me like that. Ignorant and childish behaviour.

    • @zakariadjouzi660
      @zakariadjouzi660 3 месяца назад

      ​@@ubaidmalik2517all those teams were huge way before Ronaldo even joined them or before hé was even born unlike Barcelona before Messi

    • @puff6033
      @puff6033 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@ubaidmalik2517Yes Mbappe idolizes Ronaldo but he will tell you that Messi is the best....know the difference between those two words

    • @mem5860
      @mem5860 Месяц назад

      ​@@therodian96why he is The goat, whatbis your argument?

  • @dfacademy
    @dfacademy 5 месяцев назад +26

    Everybody has different opinions. Messi is my favorite too. He's extremely talented when you watch him play. Watch him without sentiment and you will see the resson why people say he's the GOAT. I respect CR7, he's a beast too.

    • @rockfelraymond6257
      @rockfelraymond6257 5 месяцев назад +3

      even people have tried to compare them in terms of trophies but i try to ignore that that coz wining a trophy is a team effort though sometimes some individuals can determine the outcomes of most of those games but when talking INDIVIDUAL brilliancy on the pitch??
      I dont think there is any footballer close to Messi, the passes, the goals, assists or vision& creativity, doing the unexpected, the goals even just the touch on the ball alone(ball control), the ballance even just merely winning the ball from him is almost impossible of which the best players do is foul him or u let him run past you
      Most players can have either half or less of these qualities but theiy are considered the best in their positions but Messi is like a number 9,10,11 i mean coz of the free role its not easy to understand that man
      I JUST FEAR HIM I DONT KNOW IF HE CAN BE MARKED BY THE GREATEST DEFENDER MAYBE YOU NEED 2

    • @mohamednayad
      @mohamednayad 4 месяца назад +1

      ​​@@rockfelraymond6257 💯 Exactly totally agree 👍

  • @BluesFanUK_
    @BluesFanUK_ 5 месяцев назад +18

    Not even close either, Messi's on a whole other level. It's statistics that seems to drive these debates, and pinning Messi down to stats is fucking stupidity.

    • @ayooye3k
      @ayooye3k 5 месяцев назад +2

      I wish i could like your comment a million times

    • @RedDevilSkillz
      @RedDevilSkillz 5 месяцев назад +3

      Stats have Messi heavily heavily in favour anyway. Go look at per 90 stats, Messi dominates it ALL

    • @pn074
      @pn074 5 месяцев назад +1

      Your opinion just like chelsea are trash.

  • @rockfelraymond6257
    @rockfelraymond6257 5 месяцев назад +4

    ronaldo fans know the truth they are just living in denial almost 80% of the polls organised whether by BBC or aESPN etc will see messi victorious even if its done on a night when ronaldo scores a hatrick
    everyone who watches football knows what messi does on the pitch is very unbelievable, ofcourse ronaldo fans try to bring hardwork, goals etc but when we are discussing football we discuss it objectively not feelings that am a madrid fan or manchester united fan

  • @obi1wayas864
    @obi1wayas864 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ol Boi keep am up ooo. You lived and proved your worth. From your namesake keep on keeping on. Happy New Year to your team, especially your co host and most importantly your family.

  • @lipinaries
    @lipinaries 5 месяцев назад +8

    Messi is the greatest of all time fullstop...But if I want to show my kid to model and learn from the best footballer then its Cristiano..... Messi is def from a different planet ....

  • @SonOfBeelzebub
    @SonOfBeelzebub 5 месяцев назад +141

    Anybody who says Ronaldo is better than Messi doesn’t understand football and I think it’s done more damage because it has made it difficult for people to appreciate them

    • @wash-anigboroharry2617
      @wash-anigboroharry2617 5 месяцев назад +18

      Well, that's your opinion.

    • @SonOfBeelzebub
      @SonOfBeelzebub 5 месяцев назад

      @@wash-anigboroharry2617 True and that’s why we’re entitled to our opinions

    • @gax7527
      @gax7527 5 месяцев назад

      Opinion

    • @Chipsandgravy202
      @Chipsandgravy202 5 месяцев назад +2

      A wrong opinion

    • @user-kq9vv5tj1u
      @user-kq9vv5tj1u 5 месяцев назад +2

      Just that you say it don't mean it's true. Your probably about 10.

  • @anekstar3027
    @anekstar3027 5 месяцев назад +8

    For me obi knew messi very early in his playing days starting from world youth championship Nigeria vs Argentina. Messi was something else, if not bcus of messi Nigeria would have won that cup, though i wont forget that bias call from the refree given Argentina cheap penalty.

    • @tadiyahfraser
      @tadiyahfraser 5 месяцев назад

      "Biased called by ref to give a Argentina a pen" ... Messi didn't win the game the referee did

    • @ebukskov
      @ebukskov 5 месяцев назад +1

      No, it's not biased. I thought so too in 2005. However, after rewatched the game in 2023. I can clearly see that we were just so emotional. It was a clear penalty and a careless tackle by players like Taye Taiwo and co in the 18 yard box.

  • @paulboluwatifeabi9588
    @paulboluwatifeabi9588 5 месяцев назад +7

    yes, ashley cole tackled him alone but he still did scored goals against chelsea more than messi did and don't say he played in the premier league thats why, the only time chelsea met ronaldo in the champions league he scored and it took messi more than once before he did. i appreciate your opinion mikel buh i think y'all did underrate ronaldo and was just scared of messi, i mean even you was always scared and kept kicking his leg, and when he goes down the referee blows immediately buh when ronaldo does they'd wave the play on hand sign... so yes whatever he achieved he earned it.
    You are from Nigeria, Africa you should know how it feels coming from that type of life he lived to every club and individual trophies he has earned.

    • @michaelaniefiok2592
      @michaelaniefiok2592 5 месяцев назад +6

      It’s clear you don’t have their stats… Ronaldo in all his career and his 8years in Premier League across two spells, only scored once against Chelsea. Messi has 3 goals against Chelsea despite only facing them in the UCL

    • @paulboluwatifeabi9588
      @paulboluwatifeabi9588 5 месяцев назад

      it's clear you don't
      he scored in his first season on his second spell at united when we(chelsea) played 1-1 with alonso opening the scoresheet
      he scored a header also in his first spell at united in the 2008 ucl final, a free-kick in the 2013/14 season vs madrid not to talk of goals in the league cup and all he has atleast 12+ goals vs chelsea. so its you who don't have their stats cos i could remember when we chelsea fans bragged alot 'bout messi never scoring against cech until he did cech conceded just 1 or 2 i guess until courtois did @@michaelaniefiok2592

    • @paulboluwatifeabi9588
      @paulboluwatifeabi9588 5 месяцев назад

      now checking the stats again he never did scored against chelsea until 2018 and that was against courtois with iniesta providing the assist, and the 2nd and 3rd goal coming in the second leg that same season at camp nou after denying chelsea 2 glaring penalty and that was the ninth times he was facing chelsea so he never even scored against cech in club history. ronaldo did have 17 goals against us btw, @@michaelaniefiok2592

    • @tadiyahfraser
      @tadiyahfraser 5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! We'll said.

    • @rivarwayne8179
      @rivarwayne8179 4 месяца назад +4

      @@paulboluwatifeabi9588 hmmm the stats say that ronaldo faced chelsea 17 times to be precise 12 times in the prem, 4 times in various cups and once in the UCL. He scored 2 goals against them and assisted 2 goals . He scored once and assisted 2 in the prem and scored once in the UCL.
      Messi faced them 10 times and all of them obviously in the UCL. He scored 3 goals and assisted 3 against chelsea.
      So Ronaldo 4 g/a in 17 games against Chelsea and Messi 6 g/a in 10 games against chelsea

  • @daviskimweri8095
    @daviskimweri8095 5 месяцев назад +3

    Obi, ur mic was not turned on

  • @henrymolioa3420
    @henrymolioa3420 5 месяцев назад +3

    I also agree with John Obi that Messi is the greatest of all time

  • @vinnyvasquez
    @vinnyvasquez 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ronaldo isn't even the best footballer called Ronaldo

  • @rockfelraymond6257
    @rockfelraymond6257 5 месяцев назад +3

    even people have tried to compare them in terms of trophies but i try to ignore that that coz wining a trophy is a team effort though sometimes some individuals can determine the outcomes of most of those games but when talking INDIVIDUAL brilliancy on the pitch??
    I dont think there is any footballer close to Messi, the passes, the goals, assists or vision& creativity, doing the unexpected, the goals even just the touch on the ball alone(ball control), the ballance even just merely winning the ball from him is almost impossible of which the best players do is foul him or u let him run past you
    Most players can have either half or less of these qualities but theiy are considered the best in their positions but Messi is like a number 9,10,11 i mean coz of the free role its not easy to understand that man
    I JUST FEAR HIM I DONT KNOW IF HE CAN BE MARKED BY THE GREATEST DEFENDER MAYBE YOU NEED 2

  • @ststeve5212
    @ststeve5212 5 месяцев назад +16

    I believe Messi is a better player too, but the way Mikel said it in that interview wasn’t fair on Ronaldo. Let’s call a spade a spade. He was insinuating Ronaldo has an “arrogance & pride” to be considered the GOAT. And that didn’t sit well with me so I can see why people were upset.
    Every champion has a bit of arrogance and that’s the truth. That’s what keeps them kicking.

    • @ebubeuzor8320
      @ebubeuzor8320 5 месяцев назад +6

      But messi is not arrogant at all...and he is the best player of all time

    • @ststeve5212
      @ststeve5212 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@ebubeuzor8320 not arguing if he’s the best player. Most “champions” across all sports are arrogant, Mikel didn’t understand this trait as he wasn’t a ‘great’ player himself.
      Messi doesn’t room with any teammate in the national team for a few years now. That’s arrogance in its own right but media wouldn’t dare paint him in that light.

    • @rizanvou
      @rizanvou 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ststeve5212 Source: Ronaldo's World Cup

    • @uromi-owuopukeme6081
      @uromi-owuopukeme6081 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ststeve5212 that's a lie ,Messi rooms with Sergio aguero . And besides players in the team hotel are at liberty to approach the front desk and book another room if they like and the coaches allow it , AT LEAST I KNOW YOUR NOT SCALONI .

    • @ststeve5212
      @ststeve5212 5 месяцев назад

      @@uromi-owuopukeme6081 understand reading is a problem to you. It clearly says ‘not rooming with any teammate in the national team for a few years now’. Sergio Aguero has been long retired since 2021. I’m sure u need specsavers

  • @pregra
    @pregra 5 месяцев назад +1

    1. Lionel Messi
    2. Diego Armando Maradona
    3. Not Cristiano Ronaldo

  • @yarelinemanda1341
    @yarelinemanda1341 4 месяца назад +1

    Affirmative bluesmate our own legend

  • @TomolojuKayode
    @TomolojuKayode Месяц назад

    True talk my guy you said right

  • @imanmunam7955
    @imanmunam7955 5 месяцев назад +32

    Mikel, you don't have to apologize for saying the glaring truth. Just like you said in Rio's podcast, against Ronaldo, the team trusted A.Cole to do the job but against Messi, everyone had to tackle. I remember the El Classicos involving Messi and Ronaldo, how only one player (Alvez mostly) usually marked Ronaldo but once Messi gets the ball, Alonso, Khedira, Ramos and Marcelo are all over him. Alonso even told the story how Mourinho and him would spend days creating tactics to silent Messi. Even with that, he still shone. No team pays that much attention to Ronaldo, let alone a big team.

    • @abdulaijalloh1829
      @abdulaijalloh1829 5 месяцев назад +5

      First of all, how many goals Ronaldo did score against Dani Alves despite the referres backing Alves and barca against real madrid. And can you name us how goal Messi scored against Ashley Cole.
      2nd of all, go and check who was the worst opponent pique played against in his entire career.
      Thirdly, the man said it's his opinion and my opinion was , is,and will always be this ,Cristiano Ronaldo is the best of all time

    • @abdulaijalloh1829
      @abdulaijalloh1829 5 месяцев назад +2

      You said no big team finds it hard to play against Ronaldo is that so
      Then please go and check how goals Ronaldo scored against Bayern, Juve,AC Milan,Liverpool, Man United, PSG,Inter Milan, Chelsea,Man City, ATM,Porto etc...
      Ronaldo started his career at sporting Lisbon while your dwarf Goat was babysitted by Ronaldinho, éto'o ,xavi and inesta

    • @michaelaniefiok2592
      @michaelaniefiok2592 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@abdulaijalloh1829you’re a funny sentimental dude 😅
      What club do you support? United or Madrid I guess…
      You asked the number of goals Messi scored against Ashley without asking yourself the number of times they played against each other… Ronaldo played against Ashley in the same league for 6yrs but Messi who only faced Ashley in the UCL has more goals against Chelsea than Ronaldo.
      I’m a Chelsea fan and I can tell you without any sentiment that Messi is far greater than Cristiano. They are not even on the same level

    • @DanielWilson-bu4cq
      @DanielWilson-bu4cq 5 месяцев назад +2

      You’re a Messi fan boy

    • @DanielWilson-bu4cq
      @DanielWilson-bu4cq 5 месяцев назад +2

      No team pays attention to Ronaldo? How old are you

  • @EmilozAGF
    @EmilozAGF 5 месяцев назад +3

    CR7 the best

  • @tabijohn4340
    @tabijohn4340 4 месяца назад +1

    Even cr7 knows that Messi is the goat. Messi is natural while cr7 is hard work. How can you compare natural from God and man made? Messi is from different planet.

  • @emmanuelodekunle64
    @emmanuelodekunle64 5 месяцев назад +3

    💯 with Obi on it !!

  • @bouyahiausama
    @bouyahiausama 4 месяца назад +1

    i agree

  • @robdogj
    @robdogj 5 месяцев назад +4

    My Opinion is Zizzou Da GOAT 🐐

  • @GaryCoolCoolCutterWilson
    @GaryCoolCoolCutterWilson 3 месяца назад +1

    Messi overall skills. Messi is the Greatest. Plus his I.Q.

  • @jesseludenyo6436
    @jesseludenyo6436 4 месяца назад +1

    Ronaldinho is the greatest of all time OBI, even you should know that

  • @rouhoullahdiomande3970
    @rouhoullahdiomande3970 3 месяца назад +1

    Everyone knows Messi is way better than Ronaldo. Those Ronaldo fans know deep down that it's true. Everyone knows that.

  • @spanishmontana6121
    @spanishmontana6121 3 месяца назад

    This guy sat on the bench so much his bum print is still there at Stamford Bridge

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 2 месяца назад

      Really? What have you been up to in your life? Can we see your score card?

  • @sajinmubarak8017
    @sajinmubarak8017 5 месяцев назад

    Obi mikel- please invite me to your podcast. I have subscribed to your channel ur podcast will hit a 1 million very soon. 😊. Seriously, invite me to your podcast.

  • @hdhighlights9071
    @hdhighlights9071 5 месяцев назад +3

    But who is Mikel Obi in the footballing world

    • @onlinemoneyhub9361
      @onlinemoneyhub9361 5 месяцев назад +1

      He is a big guy! Now he owns a podcast! He has achieved a lot and so he matters in football regardless of the sentiments

    • @pn074
      @pn074 5 месяцев назад +3

      A bench warmer who did absolutely nothing.

    • @footballfrea4k0048
      @footballfrea4k0048 5 месяцев назад +1

      Bang average player who was fortunate to play for Chelsea. If not for this Podcast I swear many of them had never even heard of his name.

    • @timothysmit3029
      @timothysmit3029 3 месяца назад +2

      Who are you in the footballing world? 🤔

    • @livinusokoz306
      @livinusokoz306 2 месяца назад +1

      @@pn074 yet started in the biggest games for Chelsea in his prime

  • @user-xm6ro1ep5d
    @user-xm6ro1ep5d 5 месяцев назад +2

    Pele is the GOAT, then follow the rest.
    People don’t seem to understand that you can’t be 1/3 for Copa America, 1/1 for World Cup.
    These are the Facts, not opinions

    • @BrotherBernard-yy4yd
      @BrotherBernard-yy4yd 4 месяца назад

      When you have the greatest team ever assembled by your side , you are bound to win trophies

    • @user-xm6ro1ep5d
      @user-xm6ro1ep5d 4 месяца назад

      @@BrotherBernard-yy4yd Messi had the best team in 3 of those finals. No excuses

    • @BrotherBernard-yy4yd
      @BrotherBernard-yy4yd 4 месяца назад

      @@user-xm6ro1ep5d difference between best teams and greatest teams is that , greatest teams often tend to repeat the World Cup win
      Exactly what peles team did without him in 1962 World Cup

    • @user-xm6ro1ep5d
      @user-xm6ro1ep5d 4 месяца назад

      @@BrotherBernard-yy4ydThe greates team is consider to be the best team, don't conflict the two. At the end of the day Messi is a phenomenal player, he just lacks the leadership. Nothing wrong being 2nd, under Pele.

    • @BrotherBernard-yy4yd
      @BrotherBernard-yy4yd 4 месяца назад

      @@user-xm6ro1ep5d there is always a difference between best teams and greatest teams
      Pele had players in his team who are easily top 50 player of all time , the best player in messi’s squad was di Maria , who definitely isn’t a top 50 player , the Brazil team didn’t even need pele in 1962 to win the World Cup , enough to show that pele played with far more superior quality than messi
      And being a better leader is a subjective arguement , even I can say that messi’s leadership was far more challenging than pele given the squads they had to work with .

  • @user-su6kc6ox8t
    @user-su6kc6ox8t 5 месяцев назад +3

    Mikel, take your opinion and shove it with current chelsea league table position because both are similar. Lol. Anyway, good job on the podcast, Mikel.

  • @tabijohn4340
    @tabijohn4340 4 месяца назад

    Apart from WC the next value trophy is UCL. Messi beat cr7 in UCL final 2009, UCL semi final 2012.ryhard cup 2021.what do you want Messi to do again?

  • @emmanuelmawutor7155
    @emmanuelmawutor7155 4 месяца назад

    Cr7 and his fans should be ready Messi is about to take their only hope.. the goal record

  • @ola...o1009
    @ola...o1009 5 месяцев назад +1

    CR7 nodding abilities, second to none

  • @footballfrea4k0048
    @footballfrea4k0048 5 месяцев назад

    Who is even this? This guy had the audacity to say I was one of the most decorated players in Africa. You are not even worth Toure boots lace

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 2 месяца назад

      Yes, he is one of the most decorated Africa footballers. Take your pain to where the sun doesn't shine.

  • @magicmantra4456
    @magicmantra4456 4 месяца назад

    Messi is naturally gifted.....
    But it's still arguable.
    It's still debatable

  • @kitbagaipo1
    @kitbagaipo1 5 месяцев назад +10

    "The best, ever?"
    "Yeah, he's the best to ever play the game."
    "I AGREE."

  • @ItsHoang_Truong
    @ItsHoang_Truong 4 месяца назад

    If you honestly think Messi had a better 2023 than Haaland. Then you are fooling yourself

  • @stef380
    @stef380 Месяц назад

    100%

  • @TheClaudinho11
    @TheClaudinho11 27 дней назад

    Dont even know the rules for the voting... These guys r why the football never will be a healthy place...

    • @TheClaudinho11
      @TheClaudinho11 27 дней назад

      And also, he disrespect the Legacy of Pelé. Without Pelé, even him would not have been a footballer...

  • @El_Diego86
    @El_Diego86 4 месяца назад +1

    Cr7 not even top 5. Ronaldinho R9 Pele Maradona all better. Statistics isnt what makes someone The Goat plus he hasnt won a World Cup something you need to be amongst those Legends. If you are a Football fan you will understand. Fact and nothing haters will say will change that.

  • @Cusemagic
    @Cusemagic 4 месяца назад

    However they are different type of players and both play with different styles
    But i wouldn’t say / call him a G.O.A.T
    Obi is using the wrong terminology or word
    Messi is one of the greatest footballers in his time and generation or in our time and generation

    • @ally4131
      @ally4131 2 месяца назад

      Nah he's by far the best of our time. The only comparable player is Pele.

  • @El_Diego86
    @El_Diego86 4 месяца назад +1

    Messi clearly better. Not opinion fact. Goalscoring isn't the only thing in Football. Cr7 is Monster Goalscorer with crazy numbers but hes not a better Pure Footballer than Messi.

  • @mrfacts6860
    @mrfacts6860 4 месяца назад +3

    Since 1st Jan 2009 till date 2024
    Messi not only has most goals
    He has
    Most assists
    Most dribbles completed
    Most chances created
    Most freekick s
    Most goals from outside the box
    Most golden boots
    Most Iiffhs playmaker awards
    Most international mvp awards
    Can u imagine comparing him with a poacher..it's Like lakaka has more goals than Pele Maradona Ronaldo Ronaldinho Romario neymar Suarez is a better player than them 😂😂

  • @successtorrestv2709
    @successtorrestv2709 4 месяца назад

    And you are the back pass GOAT

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 2 месяца назад

      No and what did you achieve in your career.

  • @sunnyegbo6252
    @sunnyegbo6252 5 месяцев назад +2

    You are both telling your ages. Pelé was, has been and will always be the greatest footballer of all time. Come on, Obi.

    • @imanmunam7955
      @imanmunam7955 5 месяцев назад +2

      I trust their opinion more than yours.

    • @sunnyegbo6252
      @sunnyegbo6252 5 месяцев назад

      @@imanmunam7955 they will both come around to my opinion. Pelé defined football before Messi and Ronaldo were born.

    • @imanmunam7955
      @imanmunam7955 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@sunnyegbo6252 so it's a matter of age. I could mention Di Stefano for instance and say he defined football before Pele was born and that's it.

    • @bonaventuretindin8494
      @bonaventuretindin8494 4 месяца назад

      you didnt even alive when he played

    • @amooolusina6978
      @amooolusina6978 4 месяца назад

      Pele, the one who refused to play his club football outside Brazil.

  • @111R
    @111R 3 месяца назад

    PSG doesn’t think so…

  • @user-tc5os6ri6f
    @user-tc5os6ri6f 3 месяца назад

    Mikel Obi are you part of the greatest midfielders of all time😂😂😂😂

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 2 месяца назад

      Yes he is

    • @user-tc5os6ri6f
      @user-tc5os6ri6f 2 месяца назад

      @@Helena_01541 Helena please you ask your brother or guy friends and take your decision.

  • @letlhogonolokarele8002
    @letlhogonolokarele8002 5 месяцев назад +3

    It is the way u said it....there is an old interview of you when you said you never liked him because he is arrogant....which seemed personal to me and i can't blame you because the guy won ucl against your chealse team even me i will steal be hurt.

  • @gax7527
    @gax7527 5 месяцев назад

    Ronaldo is different.

  • @dembatouray6664
    @dembatouray6664 3 месяца назад +1

    John obi Mikel was bang average so his opinion means nothing plus just hearing the way he speaks about cr7 compared to any other player you can sense that hatred in his speech. Messi is a great player but definitely not the 🐐. He is a 1 system player while cr7 can shine in any system and every team he plays in. Messi is massively favored by the media so much that even giving him current awards for two years back performances, ridiculous. I don’t mind people saying their opinions on the 🐐 debate but i just hate players like Mikel who just refuse to recognize greatness just because they hate someone so obviously. Whogivesafuck 😅

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 2 месяца назад

      You don't hate Mikel, you hate the truth. He doesn't care or even know you though.

    • @dembatouray6664
      @dembatouray6664 2 месяца назад

      @@Helena_01541 Lol like i give a f… about his opinion. Fyi i don’t want someone as negative as him to know me, I’m good 😊

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 2 месяца назад

      @@dembatouray6664 lol so what were you doing in his comment section?

    • @dembatouray6664
      @dembatouray6664 2 месяца назад

      @@Helena_01541 I’m a fan of the podcast not him 😂

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 2 месяца назад

      @@dembatouray6664 you don't have to be a fan of his podcast. If you hate him so much, which you clearly do for just having an opinion or preferring one person over the other, then you don't need to fan his podcast. The podcast is owned by him and also presented by him, you must be a funny person, fanning his podcast but not him 😂

  • @faraiguveya3537
    @faraiguveya3537 5 месяцев назад

    Ronaldo chibaba chero mukaramba🎉

  • @agilityquickness2129
    @agilityquickness2129 5 месяцев назад +1

    John Obi, you could be a little classy and less combative man. Your voice is tainted with anger and bias, your podcast is young and I believe you should stay away from these kinda issues

  • @user-dn6kf7tq1r
    @user-dn6kf7tq1r 4 месяца назад

    Obi is entittled to his opinion but that doesn't make it right

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 2 месяца назад

      His opinion is very valid, true, and accurate.

  • @jackroro7381
    @jackroro7381 4 месяца назад

    come on Mikel, do you really think you are the greatest Nigerian player ever?

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 2 месяца назад

      When did he say that?

    • @jackroro7381
      @jackroro7381 2 месяца назад

      @@Helena_01541 do you watch his podcast? as a matter of fact ask him in the comment, he might reply. you will hear his argument.

  • @edsonpacheco294
    @edsonpacheco294 5 месяцев назад

    R9 & R10 >>>>>

  • @3dd3cheetosdoritos11
    @3dd3cheetosdoritos11 5 месяцев назад +4

    Obi is very correct. I agree with Obi 💯

  • @franc7s
    @franc7s 5 месяцев назад

    Ronaldo was the only reason Chelsea couldn’t get anything 😂

    • @BrotherBernard-yy4yd
      @BrotherBernard-yy4yd 4 месяца назад

      Literally only scored twice in 17 appearances against Chelsea

    • @franc7s
      @franc7s 4 месяца назад

      @@BrotherBernard-yy4yd 2008 ucl final

    • @BrotherBernard-yy4yd
      @BrotherBernard-yy4yd 4 месяца назад

      @@franc7s 1 goal that’s it
      Missed the penalty
      Had to cry for van der sar and John terry to bail his choke job

  • @knownaskai
    @knownaskai 5 месяцев назад +2

    The aim of football is to win. To win you need to score goals. If there’s any player in history that has proven he can score in the most important games and won the best trophies in different leagues, beating all sorts of records and has had a tougher career it’s gotta be Ronaldo. 3 different leagues and a national team that has never performed but still scoring is different. Some say messi has a better goal to game ratio which is true. But with all due respect, it should be since the majority of his career he’s been with one club. But I’m not deluded, I get why people say Messi. The guys phenomenal. For me, the best 2 ever

    • @kofow483
      @kofow483 5 месяцев назад

      You obviously were not born with eyes...Messi is clear

    • @BrotherBernard-yy4yd
      @BrotherBernard-yy4yd 5 месяцев назад

      The biggest stage is the World Cup and UCL
      Messi has proved himself in both
      Penaldo can only dream of scoring more goals than Harry maguire in World Cup knockout

    • @victorobiora4656
      @victorobiora4656 4 месяца назад

      Messi only miss to win under 17 youth world cup. He won under 20, under 23 and senior world cup.

  • @rajatsingh1375
    @rajatsingh1375 5 месяцев назад +3

    Comparing dwarf to a complete player is a disgrace to football 😂

    • @amooolusina6978
      @amooolusina6978 4 месяца назад +1

      Comparing "the most decorated player in history" to a "world cup flop" is a disgrace to Football 😂

    • @BrotherBernard-yy4yd
      @BrotherBernard-yy4yd 4 месяца назад

      Dwarf could buy your Indian village 😂

    • @garythefishable
      @garythefishable 3 месяца назад

      Hard to call Ronaldo a complete player when he was never an elite dribbler and he couldn't do through ball passes. He is good at headers though if that's what you mean.

    • @rajatsingh1375
      @rajatsingh1375 3 месяца назад

      @@garythefishable bro since when are you watching football? Ronaldo has scored plenty of goals dribbling

    • @garythefishable
      @garythefishable 3 месяца назад

      @@rajatsingh1375 So have the vast majority of forward players who play at a professional level.

  • @mannamichael7259
    @mannamichael7259 5 месяцев назад +4

    It was your person I particularly like not your footballing abilities.
    You lacked in many areas and your style is highly predictable.
    You're fortunate to play for CFC because you're so average.
    Comparing yourself with Nwakwo Kanu is an insult to the beautiful game, you can't lace Kanu's boots.
    In 2013 that we won the AFCON, you were so average even more than the saviour Mbah who then was a local player.
    It was glaring that the Burkina Faso guy was better than you in that competition but because we love you and that's our sentiment, we said you were robbed not to be given the golden ball or won the best player in Africa, Yaya was better in all areas than you do them and now.
    And on CR7 and Messi's comparisons, the two of them are the greatest, it only takes sentiments to pick either of them like we Nigerian picked you in 2013.
    Thank you Obi, still, I love you.

    • @Victhur_Romanov
      @Victhur_Romanov 5 месяцев назад +2

      Kanu never scored a nations cup goal. He played in at least 3 tourneys but never scored. With that would you say he's the greatest Nigerian footballer?
      I am not saying Mikel is, but there is and will always be arguements for and against both players.

    • @footballfrea4k0048
      @footballfrea4k0048 5 месяцев назад

      On top of that he even had the audacity to say I was one of the most decorated players in Africa ahead of Yaya Toure. Bang average player who was very fortunate to play for Chelsea. If Makelele had not left Chelsea he would be playing for Stokes City at best or warming the bench his entire career.

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 2 месяца назад

      ​@@footballfrea4k0048 You don't have any data to back up this your incorrect assertions. You're just bitter because he prefers Messi to Ronaldo. Very sentimental take, no facts. Fly away.

    • @Helena_01541
      @Helena_01541 2 месяца назад

      Your comments is very sentimental and lack facts. You're very bitter because he prefers Messi to Ronaldo. The 2013 AFCON that you mentioned, Mikel made AFCON team of the tournament and CAF team of the year, and you're here screaming he is "average", why was your Mbah not in the team of tournament or anything after that. A player that came second to Lionel Messi in FIFA U20 WC and was huge talk of the town that time even two big clubs in the world struggled for his signature. A player that was wanted by a top manager then, Sir Alex Ferguson. You're clearly pained. Take your hatred for him and shove it in your skin.
      You mentioned "luck" for someone that played for 10 years in one of the big clubs in the world with different managers and a big club that had a popular rich owner who have bought thousands of players to replace if he wanted and he wasn't even considered for a loan throughout his time there.
      And no you don't love him, he doesn't need your love, he is not lacking love. Is like you haven't noticed, he has a beautiful family. Just fly away 😏

  • @ElDragow
    @ElDragow 5 месяцев назад

    Ronaldo is the greatest of all time. But I still can respect Messi also. Fanboys need to grow up. Also the losers that pretend there is only 1 factual answer in a debate where there are so many objective and unfair comparisons, are truly deluded.

    • @mustubaloch1995
      @mustubaloch1995 5 месяцев назад

      Messi messi messi messi

    • @BrotherBernard-yy4yd
      @BrotherBernard-yy4yd 4 месяца назад

      Objectively messi is the GOAT
      If you don’t include opinions like “ronaldo did it in 3 leagues”
      Then people start having this stupid ass debate

    • @mustubaloch1995
      @mustubaloch1995 4 месяца назад

      @@BrotherBernard-yy4yd messi messi messi messi bitches

  • @philipezra8671
    @philipezra8671 5 месяцев назад

    Neither of them!!!!
    R9 and maradonna are better

  • @fakyemmy4937
    @fakyemmy4937 5 месяцев назад

    CR7 is the GOAT!

  • @uromi-owuopukeme6081
    @uromi-owuopukeme6081 5 месяцев назад +1

    90 percent of people who played against both players say messi is better 😅😂, including every single left back and right back, Ashley Cole included . And almost the entire man utd team that played with penaldo , say messi is better than him .

  • @gswaggofficial1887
    @gswaggofficial1887 5 месяцев назад +2

    Messi is the GOAT no doubt, CR7 is noway near Messi's level

  • @riruta1200
    @riruta1200 11 дней назад

    Mikel now you making very senseless opinion

  • @keiblackhorse9299
    @keiblackhorse9299 5 месяцев назад

    Peles the goat 3 world cups

  • @sunnyegbo6252
    @sunnyegbo6252 5 месяцев назад

    Ask yourself this: which player made football what it is today? Not Messi. Not Ronaldo. Pelé is the one responsible for the beautiful game.

  • @tadiyahfraser
    @tadiyahfraser 5 месяцев назад

    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @abdulaijalloh1829
    @abdulaijalloh1829 5 месяцев назад +4

    Ronaldo battle wars in England, Spain, Portugal Italy and Saudi Arabia and he conquered all despite the governing body been against him he still won and proved himself
    On the hand Messi since leaving Spain he never won a league player of the year and he have 3 in four months it's so shame for the world Greatest player of all time 😂

    • @moluther2826
      @moluther2826 5 месяцев назад +1

      Enough with these silly conspiracy theories, nobody is against him.

  • @philipkanu6364
    @philipkanu6364 5 месяцев назад

    Okocha is better than obi and kanu in Nigeria

  • @z3dda
    @z3dda 5 месяцев назад

    Obi 👏

  • @TraderM.2695
    @TraderM.2695 5 месяцев назад +2

    The Olympics of football is the UCL, most competitive soccer league. Best players from the whole world coached by the best coaches from the whole world. And Ronaldo has performed the best there when both of them had capable teams and coaches.
    So how is Messi better when he gets outperformed at the highest level of football whilst having the same competitive advantage?
    Even look at who the upcoming players idolise the most. Upcomers in an industry never idolise number 2.

    • @moluther2826
      @moluther2826 5 месяцев назад +3

      The World Cup is far more prestigious. How has the best player of his generation according to you never registered a single goal or assist in a World Cup knockout match?

  • @worldentertainmenttv4540
    @worldentertainmenttv4540 4 месяца назад

    Cr7 the goat

  • @tabijohn4340
    @tabijohn4340 4 месяца назад +1

    Cr7 fans knows Messi is the goat. If the WC was rigged for Messi, why didn't they rigged the WC for cr7 since he started playing football before Messi?

  • @GVerify-dy9xm
    @GVerify-dy9xm 5 месяцев назад +1

    coming from someone who was carried his whole career

  • @spoots1234
    @spoots1234 5 месяцев назад +1

    Messi is a better footballer but Ronaldo is a better asset. It really depends on your priorities - Messi = prettier football, Ronaldo = more options to score.

    • @victorobiora4656
      @victorobiora4656 4 месяца назад

      No. Messi scores goals also assist others to score. Christiano sometimes is selfish. If he does not score, he does not willingly assist others to score.

  • @king5phenom
    @king5phenom 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ronaldo the goat CR7

  • @AlexBxnn7
    @AlexBxnn7 5 месяцев назад +1

    The world cup was rigged

  • @mr_caustic
    @mr_caustic 5 месяцев назад +3

    Cr7 is d GOAT

  • @abglamour5941
    @abglamour5941 5 месяцев назад +4

    Mikel go and sleep.
    You know nothing about football

    • @user-ub4tc9sc9v
      @user-ub4tc9sc9v 5 месяцев назад +3

      As he said his opinion isn't your opinions or whoever else opinions, why do you still jonesing him to say CR7

    • @Redmangalia
      @Redmangalia 5 месяцев назад +1

      Aren't you a dummy? A player who played at the highest level doesn't know football.

    • @imanmunam7955
      @imanmunam7955 5 месяцев назад +4

      He's been there, done that. Played at the highest stage, with and against the best players. What have you done in football? 😂

    • @Victhur_Romanov
      @Victhur_Romanov 5 месяцев назад +2

      And you know everything about football. Let's see your playing career please!

    • @isaacoladele4929
      @isaacoladele4929 5 месяцев назад +3

      Lol 😅 I guess you will be the next coach of real Madrid, cus you know so much about football, why can't you just hold on to your own opinion and respect Mikel's own

  • @ogbonnagodstime2602
    @ogbonnagodstime2602 5 месяцев назад +1

    Messi is the greatest football ever

  • @0123456787175
    @0123456787175 5 месяцев назад

    My opinion is that Ronaldo El-Fenomino (the real Ronaldo of Brazil) is the greatest player of all time (G.O.A.T). I believe that 100%

    • @BluesFanUK_
      @BluesFanUK_ 5 месяцев назад

      Anyone who says Brazilian Ronaldo never saw him play. He was one of the most explosive talents to ever kick a ball, but he was nowhere near being the best ever even at his peak.

  • @LiamsFriendStewie
    @LiamsFriendStewie 5 месяцев назад +3

    The Messi x Ronaldo debate is now a footballing IQ test for me. If you're NOT Portuguese or a Lisbon/United/Madrid/Juve fan and you think Ronaldo is better than Messi, then I no longer want to debate football with you because you don't 'get' football. If you ARE Portuguese/Lisbon/United/Madrid/Juve fan and you think Ronaldo is better.. then it makes sense.

    • @LiamsFriendStewie
      @LiamsFriendStewie 5 месяцев назад +2

      My friend is an English Liverpool fan, we're both old enough to have watched all their careers. He thinks Ronaldo is better than Messi at football. I won't ever discuss football with him because I simply don't respect his opinion. How can you be neutral and be objectively wrong, I don't understand what game you've been watching.

    • @ubaidmalik2517
      @ubaidmalik2517 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@LiamsFriendStewieits not that deep. 😭

    • @ElDragow
      @ElDragow 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@LiamsFriendStewieyour friend sounds smarter than you.

    • @TREPIIID
      @TREPIIID 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@ubaidmalik2517Ikr. It just screams insecurity from Messi fanboys.