Messi Fan Claims Ronaldo Is AWFUL To Watch | Agree To Disagree |
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2022
- We're putting football rivalries head-to-head in the ultimate debate show.
In this episode, Lionel Messi superfan Ross goes head-to-head with Cristiano Ronaldo fanatic Kyle to settle the biggest argument in football!
Who's better - Messi or Ronaldo?
Is either of them the GOAT?
Does the Ballon d'Or matter?
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Bruh it's mad how they thought a guy who has Messi tattooed on his back and a guy who literally is trying to look like Ronaldo would be objective or impartial in any way. They're both clearly way too starstruck to accept any new perspectives regardless of what's being said
Only for fans over 18 years old BEAUTIFULGIRLS.SITE 👈
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
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well said its embarrassing
Very true i wouldve thought the man u guy looks more like varane😂😂
@@denz6959 the Messi fan is just offering up opinions as facts. Man was asked how is the copa with Brazil and Uruguay harder than the euros OR nations league with France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Croatia, Belgium and even England now, and he said "copa is just as hard, ask anyone"😂😂😂as for the Ronaldo guy, he's clearly been reading a bunch of Ronaldo stats online but there's almost no substance to any of his arguments. Just seems interested in copping out of giving Messi any credit whatsoever
There's a difference between wearing a Utd Kit + hair that at a stretch resembles Ronaldo and having a back tattoo that's like a shrine for Messi.
I get he's a superfan but how you gonna dedicate your whole back to another man 😂
If you say that anyone has "just as good dribbling" as Messi, you have not watched or just cannot fathom the magic that this man creates with the ball at his feet
Agreed. Although I'd rather have Ronaldo in my squad because of how much he motivates a good team, great example is him becoming second manager for Portugal winning the euros with him injured on the sideline
@@samn6498 na Messi makes players around him better bc of his insane playmaking ability cr7 cant do that
@@samn6498 second manager 🤡🤡🤡😂
Exactly, imagine thinking ronaldo has the same ability as messi in dribbling. Messi has dribbled effortlessly through countless teams and scored, you can’t say the same about ronaldo. Not forgetting he scored 91 goals in a calendar year, Messi is the GOAT.
@@JS-hp1ow except you can say the same, not that I disagree messi is a better dribbler
“Will be remembered way more for what he’s done at an international level” that aged well 😂😂
He will tho 😂😂😂
@@abcd-bm5ejwhere ronaldo wc
@@abcd-bm5ejno he won’t. Whoever wins portugal there wc will
@@t.t4334 it's a team sport 🤡🤡🤡
@@t.t4334ronaldo won portugal their only major trophies made them qualify to the wc 5 times in a row they couldn't do that without him and is top goal scorer for portugal and international oat he will fs be remembered
According to the stats, as of the time of this video...
Ronaldo's prime dribbling season was in the 05/06 season at Man United when he was 20 years old with around 4.17 dribbles per 90 minutes.
Which is still lower than Messi's worst dribbling season in 20/21 at Barca, when he was 33 years old with around 4.27 dribbles per 90 minutes. 😭💀 now that's cold af
These guys are the real life versions of twitter stan accounts. I am a messi fan because I prefer his style of play but that doesn't mean I "hate" ronaldo. Infact I love him too. Anyone who discredit either messi or ronaldo is not a football fan.
exactly.
No-one got discredited just stating who was better doesn’t mean the other isn’t phenomenal
Messi guy did a good job exposing penaldo fraud.
Roy Keane is a great player and a man🤣🤣
Facts
I 100% believe messi is the best player ever but people who try to discredit Ronaldo is just stupid. He's clearly top 2 along with messi
Faxx
Only for fans over 18 years old BEAUTIFULGIRLS.SITE 👈
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
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Think it's still not possible to make the statement that both are the two best players ever. It may be true, but a lot of people just forget what kind of players the likes of Maradona, Cruijff, Pele & Eusebio were
@@nathanielknight1838 the Brazilian league was literally the hardest league in the world back then do your research rather than just assuming that the Brazilian league was bad back then cuz you don't know anything about it
@@jarnekompier the only ones out of those 4 that could possibly compare are Maradona and pele. The reason i dont think pele is above is because he only played in brazil. Imagine if for example messi played in Argentina, he would score a hattrick every game and Maradona took ped's which for me takes him out of the discussion. Also if pele had played today he wouldnt be even close to the top of the game because the game has evolved so much. The defenders now are so much better than back then
Would love to see these two reunite after Messi has won a World Cup
the ronaldo fan will just keep saying it was a robbery haha
@@makzs The messi fan would never stop bringing it up when pele has 3🤣🤣
@@Visionzaethen bring up messis better stats, against better players. 😂😂😂
@@Visionzae as if messi couldnt win 3 wc with that brazil team... put pele in this argentina team and they would get groupped
@@batu28 ronaldo has better stats which is why he has more goals
Who’s came back here when Messi won the World Cup🐐🐐🐐
😅me too
I'm here
not like i can reverse time
World Cup mid
@@Dashie_the_Incr3dibl3_14 mid?💀
Why did you get 2 of the most delusional people ever to settle this debate 😂😂😂😂😂
because it is most entertaining!
@@foa0695 this ain’t entertainment
@@spinofthewheel5345 i mean it is for a few people. good for laughs
Messi guy is even more so
Messi fan is way more deluded
“Just as good as Messi when it comes to dribbling” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Shame it doesn’t make messi the #1 goal scorer 😂😂
Yeah that had me off instantly, I'm a united fan😔
@@Johndoe-gf7eu Messi has more career goals per game than Ronaldo and the highest goal scoring season ever, calendar year ever, and has more goals in the last decade during both of their primes.. they are on par when it comes to scoring NOT anything else
@@frankywilliam8073 bro this vid is exactly for sour fans like you, that wreck the beauty of the rivalry with toxic fans 🤦♂️
Messi miles better with dribbling but Ronaldo is that guy
This man literally said Nations league is harder to win than Copa America bro go watch the games
The disrespect to south American football from some Europeans is unbelievable. South American football is the deepest when you consider the amount of countries they have. A lot of big European teams would struggle to qualify for the world cup in conmebol
As a person who thinks Messi is the greatest player football has ever produced, and a person that absolutely hates manchester united, i have to say, that Ronaldo fan is calm and fair, and that messi fan is off his medication
Fax lol
are u a lfc fan?
@@ibby15 noooooo
@@Jurmeytobgyevideos what team do u support
@@ibby15 city
As a Chelsea fan, Messi is the best by a good distance. If we're talking dribbling, C.Ronaldo is miles behind. That Man Utd fan is a typical Man Utd fan.
Precisely. From a fellow Chelsea fan
Yeah I don’t know who he thinks he was trying to convince with that, if your trying to claim Ronaldo is better than Messi then dribbling is something you want to stay away from. He should’ve replaced dribbling with technicality
Lol but as a chelsea fan you should know Leo was always missing against us!!! I mean come on this is just a nonsense conversation Ronaldo or messi.
Nah seems like he's just being idiotic. I think most UTD fans know the difference between the tricks, step-overs etc (that CR7 produced in his prime) and actual dribbling - Cristiano, although was very strong moving with the ball, is nowhere near Messi (or even Giggs) in that sense
@@benjyjosephb you say that as if Cristiano was amazing against Chelsea. In all his years, he only scored ONCE against Chelsea. Even that was only because Michael Essien was playing at right back and he could jump higher than Essien to head the ball. Other than that, Ashley Cole had him in the back pocket. At least Messi troubled and created chances against Chelsea
This Messi guy is so embarrassing. Take the actual core debate away, his whole demeanor is so cringe for a grown man.
Pathetic to watch, so arrogant and demeaning to
the other guy throughout the debate
@@zimeez7760 because the united fan had the audacity to say that he has the same dribbling ability as Messi, he deserved to get ruined for even thinking that.
Agreed if either of them was actually so much better than the other than their fans wouldn't talk about the other so much
This Messi fan has played for England 6 a side and has been successful in football for years .
@@jamiecable6638 meaning?
I'm sorry that Messi fan is delusional, its not a CR7 thing either. He's got tattoos all over the place, he is extremely subjective, gets defensive, answers with questions and twist the question asked to fit his narrative.
Both of em are. . . . just as good as messi in dribbling really . . .
Both are Bru
"Have you seen Maradona play? Have you seen Maradona play? Have you seen Maradona play?"
"No. Have you?"
"No."
That's why I hate reading comments in Twitter and Reddit. Because of dumb arguments like that.
@@One.Zero.One101 bro I was fuming how he wouldn’t accept the other guy saying Maradona is better than Messi because he’s never seen him play but was ok saying Messi is better than Maradona even tho he’s never seen him play
@@benspiller455 beacause when you will see stats of messi and Maradona messi is way better than Maradona
Please do a part 2....PLEASE😂 man's said "the things Cristiano has done are going to be talked about more"🤣 The guy was benched, in most of the World cup that Messi just happened to win!!!
Nobody cares about a rigged trophy
@@abdooljackson1399 then why are u crying?
Part 2 will feature the Ronaldo fan in an Al-Nassr kit and the Messi fan with a new WC tattoo on his body.
@@diegotv995 you say that but even the biggest trophy can be rigged look at the 2002 wc with south Korea
@@IA67676 that goes to proved that any wc can be rigged dawg.
I’m a Messi fan but Jesus.. this Messi fan is way too emotional about it
Messi is amazing but his the sort of guys to get arrested for breaking into messi's house and proposing to him lol.
He even has a tattoo of messi and calls the other guy obsessed🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
facts its embarassing
Messi the🐐🏆
It’s more embarrassing that fact he’s a middle aged man aswell
I feel as if the Messi-fan would fight you, if you disagreed with him in a pub.
I reckon he'd also nosh Messi off if he had the chance
thats because it should be obvious
Because he’s a bellend
The Messi fan is probably jsut sick to death of Ronaldo fans thinking he’s the goat because he’s handsome. Every single stat in the world of football is in Messi’s favour except most goals and being handsome and muscular. Messi literally thrashes Ronaldo in every single stats known to football except most goals. Messi is by miles clear Ronaldo fans just can’t accept it bc Messi isn’t as handsome with a 6 Pack and it sickens actual football fans not deluded closeted gays
@@israelhm7339 fr, youre full of crap if you tell me that alot more people don't just favor in Ronaldo over Messi cause he's more "better looking"
The most delusional thing ever is to say that ronaldo is better than messi
This didn't age very well for the man united guy😅!
Imagine being a middle aged British bloke with a Messi tattoo on your back 😂
imagine not
The impact he makes
Pathetic
That's his body and you can't say nothing about it.
@@anthonylalhruaitluanga5428 pretty sure we can
Man said Ronaldo wasn’t great to watch at Real Madrid 😂😂😂
Before Messis debut Real Madrid had 6 more UCL than Barca... After Messi they had big players like Xavi Iniesta Neymar the tiki taka style the Guardiola era, 2 Treble and now Madrid have 13 UCL and Barca are now 8 UCL behind 😂
Man probably barca fan so it wasnt great watching his team got destroyed 😂😂😂
@@geraldisaiahd.g6956 im not a barca fan but how many times did real madrid destroy barcelona since messi was playing for barca?
Hahahaha this 🙏
@@geraldisaiahd.g6956 Ronaldo only won 2 la ligas in 7 years bro, and Barca beat them 5-0 at Bernabeu
As a Ronaldo fan, I admit that Messi is more talented and composed. But the hard work and dedication of Ronaldo to be at this level is the reason why I prefer him more and that is very inspirational.
Campeones del mundo argentinaaaaaaaa
Messi Ballon Dor 8
Messi golden shoes 6
Penaldo Ballon Dor 5
Penaldo golden shoes 4
Encara messi messi messi
@@Wolverine.848get off his dick respect them both this comment is talking about player wise not stats and awards 😂💀
Penalties de mundo Argentina. Pepsi at his peak@@Wolverine.848
messi dont hard work
That just means ronaldo is a better person, not player
Part 2 needed!!!! LADS GET IT DONEEEEEEE😂
ronaldo definitely had a period from around 06-13 where he was a top 3 dribbler in the world every year,to act like he couldnt dribble is disrespectful
End of the day no one is looking at stuff in the future and going ‘oo he was the best of all time cos he could dribble the best’ they are gonna see the most goals in history and go off that….
yh but to say that CR7's dribbling was on the same level as Messi's is even more disrespectful
He never acted like Ronaldo couldn't dribble. He just mocked the idea of him being on the same level as Messi when it comes to dribbling.
Thats why the Ronaldo fan said on the same level while he knows and we all know Ronlados Dribbling can never be compared to Messis
@@Johndoe-gf7eu idiots will only go off one stat. Messi is a better footballer, and Ronaldo scores more goals.
That messi fan is so childish would never want to have a pint with him
Dude probably in his 50’s too lmaoo
Keep crying penaldogs he destroyed that Penaldo admirer
@@cokedoutmarkhamill8179 you’re the problem of what’s wrong with the Messi and Ronaldo fanboys. Never appreciate both and call them pessi and penaldo. Just stfu and be glad that you’re watching TWO great players.
Remove ur comment now 😂
This should be titled “a Messi stalker debates a Ronaldo fan.”
I’m watching this interview after the world cup 2022. So how far my Ronaldo fans? 😂
How bro felt after commenting that😈👿👽🥶
The guy on the left really cant talk about being obsessed when he has multiple tattoos of messi on his back🤣🤣🤣😂😂
The Messi fan was so deluded, he wasn’t able to “strongly agree” that Ronaldo is a great player at the end 😑
He isn't. He missed an easy penalty yesterday. Penaldo is a finished tap-in merchant
Everyone that says Cristiano is better than Messi doesn't know ball
@@Ragnar850 #2 goal scorer of all time. Ultimate GOAT!!! 😂😂😂
@@yugatrasclart4439 i mean at least he’s actually scoring in the premier league…. 😂😂
It's a fact still
"lets stay on the international shall we?...cos I can stay here all day" aged like a fine wine
That is irrelevent in their discussion. Anyways Portugal will never be bigger than Portugal as a nation.
but also all his club trophies are tainted by barca now
Bro really Portugal will never be bigger than Portugal 😭
Yeah let’s compare them ronaldo has more euro goals more goals vs top 5,10,15,20 worse team,DOUBLE more major games goals,playing in a harder tournament with better players,better goal ratio,better g/a ratio in major games they also both have 2-2 trophies messi edges that cause of the World Cup (let’s not talk about the corruption)
I mean invite these two back and see how things spice up
Yeah 😂
So, a guy who's clearly never kicked a football properly calls Messi "Frodo Baggins" and expects to be taken seriously? Give me a break!
Messi and Ronaldo are both giants of the game, we're just lucky to have experienced them both. Age is catching up with both, enjoy them while we still can and stop squabbling over stats and allegiance.
You 🤝 Logic
👏👏💪
Please stop with this equalizing bs. Messi is so clear of ronaldo its unreal. Messi is a special player who does things no one ever does or did.
SO you know if that guy has kicked a football or not?
@@dionelshani1083 i disagree
@@dionelshani1083 yes
As a fan of both, this has got to be the most cringiest thing ive ever saw 🤣🤣🤣two grown men arguing about footballers 🤣one has a tattoo of them aswell 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And the other tries to look as close to him, honestly shameful
The tattoo is very cool though but the argument is embarrassing
Pure cringe
So, I'm a strong Messi fan, and I strongly believe that he's the best player in football history... But the Messi fan (Ross, I believe) can't be the person y'all choose to participate in this debate. He takes it too personally... The Ronaldo fan is good, but throwing in insults just makes you look weak in a debate.
Yeah bro true
Ronaldo clear
@@user-ye9bc7nw2c no lmao
Here after Messi won world cup. I wonder what that clown would say now. Please we need part 2 bring them back!
Goofy ahh rigged world cup. Excuse me i tripped going to the kitchen lets give Argentina a penalty
Riggerd world cup🤣
It was rigged for Kolo Muani as well
and Coman was paid to miss that penalty too
@@disswitgan2376 ask them about the 3 peat ucl... they are hypocrites....
@@nikosboutsikas9719 "rigged world cup"
refuses to elaborate
pendu fans are hypocrites
It’s so weird that there are football fans out there that support and follow players more than teams or even a team. Cringe .
We're talking about the 2 greatest. Imo it's very understandable considering they're the 2 most followed on the planet too. They've transcended the sport..but discrediting the other isn't acceptable
you know how phenomenal these 2 players are just from the fact that it bothers you
@@jomspizz7870 no one is questioning the players . I’m questioning grown men supporting players more than teams
100% agreed i admire a teams playing style , i have a preference but not enough of a fan to tatto him on my back
Messi brings that much joy to the game. It's your own fault for missing out kid.
"Messi has scored more goals than anyone" well that is factually wrong
hes correct messi will scored more goals then anyone
From when he started to play, it is right
gaynaldo played 155 more matches than messi - just for your reminder messi is just 38 goals away from gaynldo ... so stfu
@@eddyxmercy_4956 going how he is playing right now messi can't do dogshit
Better goal ratio
Bro said nations league is better than copa America
It is please tell me why it isn’t the last 5 World Cup Europe won 4 and 1 to South America so you tell me what harder to win because nations league a harder trophy and cops America has about 3 team that I would say a good
we want this debate after 2022 wc
The difference between them during their prime is you give half a chance to Cristiano he will score but you don't have to give Messi a chance.
You didn't have to give Ronaldo a chance either. It's not like Messi made those rushes every game. Ronaldo has hit top bins from 40 yards out more times than Messi dribbled all across the pitch to put it in the net
@@jelle5859 factos
@@jelle5859 That‘s actually not exactly true, but I get your point and it‘s still valid.
@@TheGoat19397 he is speaking facts
@@xtremexx1191 Ronaldo has got exactly 2 goals that are 40 yard-ish. The one against Porto and the freekick against arsenal. I just did a little bit of research, maybe I missed a goal or 2, but he doesn't even have 10% of Messi's solo goals (40 yard shots for CR7).
*We agree that Messi and Ronaldo are great players*
Ronaldo fan: "I think they're both phenomenal players"
Messi fan: "Messi is the best, simple as that"
This is what Meesi fans in general say when people are giving credit to Ronaldo and Messi, it is just sad honestly
it is because messi is clearly levels above cr7, who is still one of the greatest players of all time. goals ratio, assists ratio, dribbling, ability to create a big chance, ballon dors, golden boots, motms. messi is miles better everywhere, if you are not madrid or man u fan you know it as clear as a day.
@@bigshaq6062 i get what ur saying and i respect it but the question wasnt about who is better, it was about if they are great players, that is the problem with messi fans, always talk about messi and his 7 ballon dors as if anyone asked or cared, as if he is a god and you lot worship him
@@ethanpetersen7318 yep, pretty much what most messi fanboy says when talking about football in general
@@foong2 we all know everyone cares about the balon dor😹😹
@@philipsheehama569Not ever since it's been gifted to Messi just because it's Messi. It's become a farce.
Anyone here after world cup 2022🎉
This didn't age well for the Rapenaldo fan
The Messi fan is just a deluded kid😂😂 "It's not great to see Ronaldo play, even when he was in Madrid" He doesn't give Ronaldo any credit while the Ronaldo fan gives Messi his deserved credit. Now I know who is a real football fan😂
Honestly both are delusional
If you Watch it properly than u would understand Ronaldo fan was delusion too...He literally said Ronaldo's dribbling is as good as Messis 🤣🤣
Ronaldo actually isn't fun to watch, he was effective but not fun to watch.
@@konarkbasu5282 ur a kid
@@konarkbasu5282 you started watching football in 2018
Ronaldo said 4 years ago he doesn't dribble like his peak years. We all know that in 2014 tendinosis also had something to do with it. If the dude himself says he doesn't dribble like he used too why even bring it up.
Even at his best at dribbling his dribble/game is the same as messi is doing rn and it's not even half of messi's best season dribbling wise 😂
Yeah, meanwhile Messi was walking through the entire peak Madrid team in 2011...
To quote the famous commentator Peter Drury's reaction to Messi's goal:
"And here's Messi....away from 2, 3, 4....wonderful, wonderful, wonderful... How good is he? A mere supernatural goal from Lionel Messi! He has wriggled and tiptoed his way to the gates of Wembley Stadium. He is just brilliant. Best player in the world, bar none." look at the pace, look at the speed, the control and finish. You can't touch him, you can't get near him."
@@_v.c_ ok dog ronaldo 20 dribbles in a single match and messi only 16 😂😂
@@ayaan3616 yeah bro that's true for a single match and are you still stuck with that match till now??
Since 2009-10 stats, Cr7 had 936 successful dribbles (1.81 dribbles per 90min) meanwhile Lionel Messi have a whopping number of 2433 successful dribbles (4.36 per 90min)... 🔥🔥
@@ayaan3616 yh messi is more adventurous with his dribbling. Ronaldo baits the player then does nothing
As a football fan I have seen a lot of players play but Ronaldo and Messi are very unique. Ronaldo scores goals when you want and Messi creates chances. Ronaldo is a mixture of great acrobatic skills and Messi has great vision. They are different in their own ways so you cannot compare them since they don't have same style of play.
Please tell me that there's a more recently version of this video???
Both are gods of the game and it is embarrassing that people can't just love them both and squabble over petty nonsense. The hate both players receive online is ridiculous but I guess that's the price of greatness.
Only for fans over 18 years old BEAUTIFULGIRLS.SITE 👈
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
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What is embarassing is that people consider those two washed ups still relevant now. Ronaldo is literally mid table in the prem, meanwhile Messi is one of the weakest and uneffective wingers in Ligue 1 with a single goal to his name. They were the best, but they are SHIT now and we should focus on the best players right now and stop giving them attention. I’m so happy the Penaldo/Pessi monopolized era is over for some time.
@@NomaHirudo fax
@@NomaHirudo
Messi isn’t a winger and his job isn’t to score goals. Your comment says a lot about your knowledge of the sport.
You know everything is done for content and views. You'll see every now and then this types of vids in every channel and then people arguing in comment section 🤷🏻♂️
I'm a Messi fan but the Messi fan here was unbearable.
You all are.
@@JamesHussain82 says a Chelsea fan
@@ng.15 says a spurs fan
@@CocoKobiee hes not a spurs fan, hes a player fan, its embarrassing. What man is a fan of another man? You follow a team, the team of where you're from. These lot just supports whoever is the best. Probably a Fury, Khabib, Bolt and Ronaldo fan.
Can guarantee hes not from London! Probably supports Brazil too
@@JamesHussain82 true 😄
Man a Part 2 of this conversation would be hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This has aged well 😂 Messi absolute shambles of a season and Ronaldo at 37 is 2nd highest scorer in the PL 🤣
Like this guy said “context”. His team is 5th mate and his their out and out striker. Man said shambles he hasn’t been great but still has the most assist in his league. His a midfielder mate and team built around mbappe
@@JPKIMA excuses
@@maruf7956 where's the excuses?
Yeah aged very well mate Messi Won 2 major trophies this season club and nation. He’s won more trophies in england this week than ronaldo has having played there for the last 12 months while ronaldos greatest achievement this season was a hatrick against Norwich and a clubs poty award where the second best performer (de gea) behind him has conceded more goals than brightons keeper.
@@jakemason8283 don’t cry lad
This Messi guy is a Messi fanatic. Not a fan. He contradicts himself at every turn. The argument he uses to discredit Ronaldo or Lewandowski is the same one he employs to credit Messi. Please don't have him on your show again. This episode was annoying
Messi is the goat
Mate stfu the other guy literally talks nonsense. MESSI>CR7 is a fact. CR7>Messi is an opinion
@@lonelyking8924 yes
@@lonelyking8924 Messi couldn't even score a goal at farmers league and you think Messi is better than Ronaldo! What a clown you are. Messi has lost 3 finals in a row with Argentina missing 2 open chances at the world cup and at UCL Messi has yet to score an away goal beyond RO16 since 2012. Calm down mate. Ronaldo will always be above Messi. Messi is only good at Barca and his crap performances at PSG shows that at age 34 while Ronaldo at 36 was top scorer of serie A and Euro
@@Davidhawk7814 Messi only good at Barca when he literally won for Argentina. Also you don’t need goals to have a good game, Messi has so many assists. Typical ronaldo fans that think goals is everything
Having a person that doesn't even know you exist tattooed in your back has to be one of the saddest things anybody could do.
Shall I put RIP dad or rosary beads or pretend I’m religious you clown!!!
He has the wrong one for a start😂
@Leon's Bingo Time u never know, maybe messi may have watched this 👀
half of people's tattoos are shitty references or to do with something like that?
You want him to put his girl's face on him or his dad's
That Messi fan is absolutely deluded omg never have him again
Messi fan was mad delusional with some of these, jeez
This messi fan is exactly what all the Twitter warriors sound like. It’s embarrassing ffs
You are a clown.
The ronaldo fan was an absolute joke.
Penaldog was destroyed
So was the Ronaldo fan, the ballon d’or was a farce because “he plays for PSG and it’s France football” that argument has been on social media countless times. Both were embarrassing
@@user-io8cm4dk1f I completely agree
To be honest ,the Messi fan doesn’t accept when he’s wrong
What?? 😂😂Ronaldo is has same dribbling as messi??
@@junamheman1711 pesshit
@@junamheman1711 that was his probaly his only flaw tbh the dribbling bit
@@mxsthxted no one asked
@@mxsthxted MESSI IS THE GOAT. KEEP CRYING🤡🤡🤡
When the Messi Fan said "pre-assists" you just knew nothing he says after that would make any sense.
It means through passes
Nah it actually means creating a build up play by giving the ball to a player to make that one assist the scorer which is a great point cause Ronaldo can't do that most of the times cause he wants to score. It's all about team play not individual
@@alexanderatkins5595 yeah but it needs individual ability to make that through passes I don't know why cr fans doesn't know such things..... They doesn't appreciate football they appreciate the things that cr is good that...... These fans are degrading the actual meaning of Football
The debate on Messi vs Ronaldo has actually become so exhausting because all it is is both fanbases discrediting competitions and looking at goals and assists to prove who’s better. They’re the two greatest in history and it should just be left at that
I'm Messi fan ...but I'll never criticize RONALDO because what he has done is incredible 🙏
He's a legend 👑
Both are 🐐s
I agree both incredible but you can’t have 2 goat as it means greatest of all time which means both can’t be lol
Same brother and respect to you 🙏❤️
@@christopherhoy8705 I'll always say messi is the greatest 🙏 but Ronaldo is in top 3 ..for sure ... I've a huge respect for RONALDO .. he's an inspiration
@@manishyadav-gr3dj top 3?nobody else other than Messi has a chance of being better than Ronaldo 😂
I think this is the first time I’ve seen a Messi fan acknowledging Ronaldo.😮
The rivalry was what propelled them to that level of greatness IMO. You cannot be a fan of one without acknowledging the other. They kept pushing each other to be better. At the peak of their powers undoubtedly none could even compare to them. The story at the time too, Cristiano vs Messi, Barca vs Madrid, A guy who was undersized but had the touch and a guy built himself physically to dominate. These 2 are on a level of their own.
Are you referring to these two bloke talking? They’re incels and it that great.
crazy how the 2 best players are Literally the opposite of each other interms of playstyle and personality. Even played for the top 2 best teams in the league😂 Only God could write a script like that
@@andyhunter5869 what about them did you find that they were being hostile to women? or do you just throw around words u have no clue of meaning?
@@jr4god11 they were destined to clash against each other.
- Messi is the greatest player of all time.
- Ronaldo is the greatest goal scorer of all time.
This should have been a 10 second video
And you are watching ronaldo after 2017 lol 😂 . Don't read media headlines
"In 20 years people won't be talking about how many Balon D'ors they won."... My guy didn't just say that, did he? If anyone every has the Messi-Ronaldo debate in 50 years time, the Balon D'ors they won will be the first thing they mention.
Messi wins MOTM without scoring or assisting in a match. Don't think Ronaldo can.
Messi primarily plays as playmaker. Ronaldo’s playing as a striker for quite a while. Cant compare them with this. Plus messi’s hype is a factor just like the previous ballon dor
@@jomcueto980Well guess what? Messi has a better goal ratio than Ronaldo whilst being a playmaker...and guess who has played over 100 games more?
@@KiNg-yl8hs he's talking bout the fact that u can't compare them
But u come with up some hogwash
@@KiNg-yl8hs ronaldo was more consistent in his performance especially considering he has played on all the top leagues with various managers and players. Sure messi did score against top teams from other leagues but ronaldo did that various time in the prem and the serie a . So obviously Ronaldo had it more challenging than Messi which is why i rate him better
@@KiNg-yl8hs sure stats wise, maybe messi wins. But consider the challenges they faced, ronaldo had it more and still comes out as one of the best each year even at his age.
Messi is the greatest goal scorer, playmaker and dribbler of all time. Why is this even a debate?
Some people just don’t understand the game
Man cant head a ball
Can’t do it in another league which isn’t the Spanish farmers league
@@PauLPauLL thats in champions league cup knockouts lol, not over 38 games in a league playing in England every week. Context is key young padawan. You will learn
@@SaulehBakhshi you think if he joined city he would set the world on fire? Hes at PSG in one of thr worst leagues in europe, playing with neymar and mbappe, and has one goal in 6 months. He would never do well at city in the prem, and they would never go for him
Please do this debate again 😂
Completely agree with your views on football in general and on Cristiano as well mate. Happy to see someone express exactly what I have been thinking for years. Another point i didn’t found highlighted is his overrated big game reputation. I agree that he is a clutch GOALSCORER to some extent, and I give him credit for that Haaland should get inspired by that.
Although I think his best clutch games only came when the team played well collectively and he just had to score a tap in most of the times led on a plate for him. Benzema did the same last year to get the ballon d or with a far lessen supporting cast and far more uplifting of that team and with more linking up of play and creativity duties.
Nobody can name me a complete footballing performance of his on par with Maradona’s performance vs Belgium in 86 or what Messi did to Manchester United in 2011 in the CL final in terms of 90 minutes contribution. Most of the big games he has scored in and this so called big game reputation was built post 2014 when he already turned himself into a poacher so in those games he only had to put the ball in the back of the net without any playmaking and creativity burden.
Like you said, he also got away with far less criticism on his crap performances in big games because his team was good enough to advance or win regardless unlike Barcelona which were far more dependent on Messi’s performance (Even in 2011 when they were at their absolute best who knows what would have happened if Messi didn’t turn into a Maradonian god mode for that slalom goal)
UCL semi final 2008 misses a pen in the first leg gets completely overshadowed by Messi at the Nou camp and especially at Old Traford. It took a banger form scholes who was getting terrorized by Messi the whole game to advance in the final. Messi didn’t have this luxury in 2012 against Chelsea(despite flopping with that penalty taking he hit the bar also from outside The box in the last minutes and still got an asssist to iniesta) or in the 2016 copa America final(the latter in which he was the best player on the pitch but his teams weren’t good enough to advance or win without him being decisive)
UCl final 2008 vs Chelsea : Nothing special in this performance but scores a nice header so kudos to him. he still wasn’t the best player on the pitch(neither was he in any of his ucl finals) missed his pen in the shootout yet despite winning the trophy thanks to Terry and Anelka lays on the floor trying to take the spotlight rather than congratulating Van der Saar for the shootout. and Rio who had a fantastic defensive performance the whole game.
UCL FINAL 2014 horrible performance yet tries to steal the spotlight of di Maria, Bale and Marcelo who carried him and played a fantastic game. Sergio Ramos saved his ass in the last minute(if only Messi had this luxury in 2019 but he got killed by a lot of people even if it was Dembele who should have been blamed for missing that sitter in the first leg)
UCL final 2016 similar scenario yet takes his shirt off after the penalty shootout in order to mask his disasterclass .
UCL final 2018. After ghosting in both legs of the semi vs Liverpool he puts another disasterclass , gets carried by Benzema, Bale and Modric , the latter who put a fantastic second half midfield performance.
i could go on and on for hours (World cup 2018 vs Uruguay if the supply line is not there he was pretty much useless waiting for crosses)
Same thing happened a lot internationally the reason he’s a royal World Cup flop. For a guy as obsessed with stats to have 0 goal contributions at the World Cup is pathetic for a player of that standard. Furthermore like you stated to have 0 players of the tournament awards is laughable as well. In 2016 the year he won that tournament he was portrayed like you said as a hero for winning the tournament cheerleading from the side lines. Fernando Santos, Pepe , Quaresma and Nani were more crucial than him for my money and Eder delivered them the title in the final.
And Dimitri Payet and Griezmann were both without a shadow of a doubt better than him during that tournam.
World Cup 2014 this guy got far less criticism getting knocked out by the USA in t he group stage than Messi losing in extra time in a World Cup final against German. That’s the world we live in.
Like you said if anyone makes a top 10 player of all time based of all round technical ability and skill set (dribbling, passing, playmaking, first touch, ball manipulation, vision, footballing iq) no chance would Cristiano make it in a top 10 ever list .
Even in his prime his skillset was on a Henry, Baggio, Figo level at best but not at a goat standard. It’s his PR thanks to Real Madrid and persona, clutch goalscoring in big CL games(with caviats),match winning intangibles and some of Messi’s failures which have elevated him with players he doesn’t deserve to be put in the same sentence with.
As a die hard Madridista i could even add more
Straight away the ronaldo fan mentioned big international teams yet said spain, but people just need to appreciate both players, everyone has opinions on who is the best, but people become so ignorant they fail to appreciate the other, and they're missing out big time
So spain isn’t a big international team ?
When Spain were winning titles in 2010 they were one of the most dominant teams ever in international footbal
Pretty sure spain is a bigger international team than england lol
I honestly hate it so much when people don't give respect to ronaldo. Idk who is the best but both of these two are top2 best players ever to exist. It's so delusional.
Ronaldo no body scored that many goals than him in their lives.
@@steven-fx5cn Messi literally has a better goal ratio lol
@@asianwarrior2193 who had the best goal to game ratio while they were in Spain g
@@anthony98339 what an absolute abysmally shit point that is, like bottom of the bottom, Messi spent his whole career since he was 17 in la liga and Ronaldo moved in his prime, if Ronaldo didn't have a better goal ratio than Messi in La Liga it would be very concerning for the so called "goat"
@@asianwarrior2193 no hes right when ronaldo moved to la liga in 2009 from that point onwards till he left la liga he had a better goal to gam ratio mate
"Lay off the smoke" to a a fit young lad drinking orange juice in the pub 😂😂
just so u know messi has won a wc now so no more debate
Neither is awful to watch. Both are incredible players who have achieved amazing stats and achieved many accolades. And will continue to achieve until they are ready to retire...facts or major big facts?
But they're finished now
One is ghosting big games and only scoring easy goals
While the other have only 1 goal and is failing in a farmers league
Sad truth
@@nt._7 ur not wrong but one is playing at almost 37 in the toughest league in the world while the other fails to score in the farmers league
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Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
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They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
💗❤️💌💘
Ronaldo is dogshit to watch. Especially the example he sets. Disgraceful
@@ghostmaster9700 one is going to win trophies and will qualify to play in UCL next season
Whereas the other won’t win any trophies and will probably not finish top 4..
I would say joining PSG was a smart move and joining Man Utd, a stupid move..
As a Madrid fan, if we talk about peak then Messi is a tip better.
But I would rather have Ronaldo’s career than Messi’s.
I would still rather Messi’s career. More trophies and more individual awards
A tip better? He’s quite comfortably better and he has been for almost 14 years now.
A tip 😂😂😂😂😂😂
My brother said tip lmaoo.. nobody in history was better them prime Messi . and I mean NO BODY.
We all know what prime Messi is...... saying a tip is hella disrespectful
bring them back togather now for a 2nd part
That face this man said Copa America is on par with Euro’s is absolutely nutty
It is you nerd
@@jxxdxn5233 more nations with more quality make up the euros you’re on more crack than the Messi fan😂😂
Ronaldo fan was way more chill. The Messi player couldn't hear anything bad about Messi
Are you joking or serious? There is ronaldo who always slams messi, like typing essays on instagram, writing factos under his fanpage, on 2022 new year day, typing another essay by posting a picture and describing his last year etc etc.. And there is messi, never said anything wromg about him in front of everyone. He just accept everything and move on. He is very calm guy in these kind of things.
@@arviethakur1217 because Ronaldo isn't afraid of saying what he thinks while Messi says that Robert is one of the best in the world and then votes for his friends on the best award
@@joseelcolchonero4795 dude shut up, Messi said Lewandowski deserved it last year, he told he is a great competitor and player but he never said Lewandowski deserved the ballon dor in 2021. If you dont listen and only hear to respond you come up with this nonsense.
@@joseelcolchonero4795 that is different thing.... Ronaldo is arrogant we all know.. We can see his jealousy towards messi.. But you can see, even he said i never had any competion with messi but then said our rivalry pushed me even him as well. I mean, come on, robert isnt his rivalry. Messi doesnt get jealous of anyone. He always choose neymar we all know... But what ronaldo do.. When ever messi gets any good, then ronaldo starts typing essays.. Imagine doing comment under his fanpage 😭😭😭😭... And his sister posted pics, his mother spoken bad about messi.. Even i want to say, his whole family is jealoused of messi.. Ronaldo acts like crying babies.. Messi is more like disciplined, more calm than him.. And his football?.. Aah we all know the difference between these 2
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This is copied and pasted before anyone says anything
Across their whole careers:
Attributes -
Goalscoring: Messi
Finishing - Messi
Playmaking: Messi
Dribbling: Messi
Passing: Messi
Aerial ability/heading: Ronaldo
Defensively: Messi
Stats per game -
Goals - Messi
Assists - Messi
UCL goals - Messi
UCL assists - Messi
International goals - Ronaldo
International assists - Messi
Free kick goals - Messi
Hat tricks - Messi
UCL hat tricks - Messi
Penalties - Ronaldo
Outside the box goals - Messi
Key Passes - Messi
Big chances created - Messi
Acc. through balls - Messi
Successful dribbles - Messi
xA - Messi
Aerial duels won - Ronaldo
Average match rating - Messi
Man of the matches - Messi
El Clasico g/a - Messi
UCL knockout g/a - Ronaldo
G/a in finals - Messi
World cup goals - Ronaldo
World cup assists - Messi
World cup g/a - Messi
Major tournament g/a - Messi
Individual honours -
Ballondor - Messi
Fifa World poty - Messi
European golden shoe - Messi
UCL top scorer - Ronaldo
Pichichi - Messi
League pots - Messi
International player of the tournament - Messi
Puskas nominations - Messi
IFFHS top goalscorer - Ronaldo
IFFHS best playmaker - Messi
Team trophies -
UCL - Ronaldo
League titles - Messi
Domestic cups - Messi
International trophies - Ronaldo
International finals - Messi
Messi 37 - 10 Ronaldo
Bruh you added international finals 😭😭 and you added puskas nominations but not the puskas itself which Ronaldo won and Messi didn’t. And what is per game? This is so biased god
Ronaldo is the top scorer, top assister, most chances created, most trophies, most finals played in UCL idk how you made Messi relevant
@@ubaidmalik2517 sorry I've just seen the replies. But I'm doing per game because Ronaldo has played 148 more games. And messi should have 3 or 4 puskas wins. And Ronaldo has less ucl g/a per game it's only because he's played more that his g/a look better.
But in the quarter finals and semi finals hes got better stats than Messi in the ucl. I'll admit that. But that's it
Bro we need a part 2 🤣🤣
Aight I love both and don't wanna see fans fighting, but the Messi fan makes really shitty arguments because he makes the same points he denied before hand. Anyways both are GOATS
Messi for me. Two unbelievable players absolute ballers. I'm just shocked the real goat James milner is not in this conversation
He can play midfield left back goalkeeper you name it Milly's there
He is quite a literal dawg!
You just know the messi fan spends most of his time fighting people after having a curry watching the game on a Sunday night😂
Messi and Ronaldo are as good as each other end off...
Messi is better than Ronaldo… Ronaldo is a very very good player
But he ain’t messi lol
Messi is easily better. Stop disrespecting messi just so u can get likes from ronaldo fans
Probably one of those neeks on twitter who has a fan account
It’s 2024, two years from this post and Messi went on to win the World Cup claiming the best player of the tournament. From his lustrous career Messi has,
8 Balon D’ors
6 golden boots
4 champions leagues
10 la liga titles
7 Copa del Rey among others.
Messi has has won 42 trophies and is the only player closely behind the all time player with the most trophies in history Dani Alves(43)
Messi left Europe with 702 goals eclipsing Ronaldo with just a goal.
Messi has trophies with psg and inter Miami currently and he still show his quality to this day.
I’m in Ghana, and I stay up at night to watch Messi. This man has transformed my life, for me the greatest to ever walk the pitch.
The "context" definitely changed a lot after Dec 12😂😂
I feel sorry for those fan boys xD.
Messi did everything in his prime, so did Ronaldo.
Cristiano in Manchester United was one of the most beautiful things i have ever seen, he could drible any1. He was a showman, but he grew up and decided to focus on goals. Why is that a bad thing? Dont you think he deserve to be in the "GOAT" conversation? I mean ofc it will be kids who Will hate on him, but u cannot deny that hes a genius, he owns the Champions league. Its his competition, and thats facts. He was one of the best players in the Premier league,la liga, séria A.
Just like you guys say that Messi can drible the whole 2,3,4 and Cristiano cant, i can say that Messi cant score a long range goal. But thats a lie, Messi scored some badass long range goals like Cristiano scored some goals dribling the defence, you cant deny it. So stop being such a kiddo, when these 2 retire, you all gonna cry, even if u didnt like Messi or Cristiano. Those 2 saved lifes by just playing football. Respect the GOATS
He deserves to be in the conversation but anyone who understands ball knows that Messi's ability will not be seen in another player for a long long time. Dribbling past whole defences, free kicks, shooting with insane precision, the man had it all, except for maybe headers lol
@@AN-nl4fs and Ronaldo dont? Tell me, Dont you think its unfair, he worked his ass off to be a goat and people devalue his work. there is Messi and Cristiano, both are the best players that ever lived on this planet. each of them made each of us fall in love with football, each in his own way. I agree 100% that we will not see another Messi again, he is different, but we will not see another Cristiano either and saying otherwise is the same as saying that he is not one of the best. There is no defined goat, Cristiano is the idol of some Messi is the idol of others, simple. But I have a clear conscience, I enjoyed every moment I saw the two of them play. Comparisons are for kids who haven't seen every stage of each one's career, every evolution, every big moment. I'm grateful that I had the opportunity to be born in time to see them play during their careers
@@morais4450 Ronaldo is a great player easily top 3, but to compare him to messi is just delusional, Ronaldo is known for scoring, messi is known for dribbling,assists/play making, how tf do you even think they're equal
@@marinenico1993 Thats your opinion. Ur the delusional here, your saying that Cristiano its not even close to Messi cause hes known as a goalscorer, wtf is that even mean?
The proof that I'm not delusional is the fact that I don't need to belittle Messi to defend Cristiano. You're simply demeaning Cristiano by saying "he's only known for Scoring goals" Goalscorer is Lewa, Suarez, Cavani etc. Cristiano is much more than a goalscorer and you know that, you're just insecure about Messi. But anyway, I can't change the mind of an ignorant
@@morais4450 Ronaldo is known as a goal scorer that's it, 😂😂😂, and the funny thing is he's not even the best at it 🤣
This debate is stupid they both will go down as two of the greatest of all time. Ronaldo had mental dribbling at Manchester United but from all years combined no one can compete with Messi’s dribbling and just looking at all other attributes , they both have strengths in different areas you cannot discredit either whatsoever
Ronaldo strength is goalscoring.
Messi has that and a lot more.
The 3 most important attacking attributes by far are finishing, passing/assisting and dribbling.
Messi is 10/10 in all and ronaldo is only 10/10 finishing.
@@evilmorty8077 people literally act like cr7 didn't do those stuffs in his prime.
Settling the cr7 vs messi debate: ( For both I am talking about their prime)
Shooting-Cr7
Heading-cr7
Weak foot-cr7
Penalties-cr7
Skills-cr7
Pace-cr7
Physical-cr7
Big game player-cr7
Clutch-cr7
Leadership-cr7
Acrobatic goals-cr7
Passing-messi
Dribbling-messi
Free Kicks-messi(just)
Work rate(on the pitch)-neither
Stamina-messi
Assists-messi
Running the game-messi
Crossing-messi
GOAT-
Both🐐🐐
@@fifalegendguy67 shooting is level at best if not messi. Weak foot is messi he scores free kicks with weak foot lol. Skills is messi he runs through entire teams while ronaldo does stepovers to get past 1 player max. Big game is both. Clutch is also wrong messi has scored more off the bench when needed.
End of the day u made 100 categories when the 3 main ones by far are finishing, passing/assisting and dribbling. Messi wins all of them. Only finishing they may be level but in terms of goals per minute messi wins.
@@evilmorty8077 I don't think messi's better at weak foot lol. Don't get me wrong his right foot is dangerous but i think cr's left foot is stronger. Just opinion tho
Please do part 2...
Being a superfan is embarrassing tbh to have a tattoo of a player who you haven't got a connection with the club is weird but Messi is better
Comparing ronaldo and Messi’s dribbling ability even in ronaldos prime is criminal. That’s one thing no body can’t compare to Messi. Dribbling. Nobody.
Tbf for awhile Hazard was actually a more successful dribbler than Messi. Obviously Messi is still the better dribbler overall though
@PVRIS I’m just speaking statistically. You can google it if you don’t believe me. Obviously Messi’s dribbles where he beats 6+ men are better, but Hazard was more successful (less losing the ball when attempting a dribble) than Messi for awhile, which is quite impressive for playing in physical premier league.
Hazard was doing 6.4 dribbles per 90 SUCCEEDING 75% of them.
Messi 5.5 per 90, 62% success (tho he was abit older and less fast/agile at this point)
Please be mature and able to have a discussion instead of attacking anyone who says something slightly bad about Messi, I think he is the best player ever its just an interesting fact about Hazard
Only maradona it’s on the same level as messi in dribbling
Only Maradona is comparable.
Maradona, Ronaldinho, Neymar are very much comparable tho
Can we all just agree that 1) they are 2 of the best players of all time 2) they have 2 very different play styles 3) the teams/circumstances they've both been in matters and 4) it's a shame they both had to leave La Liga and this last stage in their careers is a throwaway?
Would like a part this they are hilarious
Is there coming a New video after wc?
Nah no point of that, the debate is already over. Messi is the GOAT
If I became a pro footballer tomorrow and in my first ever game scored 5 goals and then decided to never play again, I'd have a better goal record than Ronaldo and messi
Yh but both of them would have 745 + more goals than you so noone would care
with a sample size of 1. Sure.
I’m a Messi fan but the Messi fan in this vid was a lil crazy but whenever it’s a Messi vs cr7 it always gets crazy. Yes I do think Messi the goat but I would def put cr7! After Messi none of this halaand and Mbappe bs. Def not same lvl as Messi at dribbling tho but that ain’t even a negative. They obv both have their positives and negatives.
Messi had knockout Ronaldo in goat debate after wc final 2022
I think the questions were so perfect for this sort of debate because they were very open ended. When you ask whether messi is the best player in football history or whether ronaldo is a better player than Messi there are so many angles from which these questions can be attacked and discussed. I think the right way to think about this debate is that Messi is on an individualistic level a better player than ronaldo and objectively the best individualistic player of all time and what I mean by this is that his individual football skills (IQ, dribbling, vision, follow-through, etc.) are above the rest. However, I think Ronaldo is a better player than Ronaldo from a general sense. By this I mean that at the end of the day, football is a team sport and Ronaldo is better than Messi at playing the team sport that is football. Every team he's been on he's done amazing at and won trophies at. Every team he went to got significantly better and achieved major success in a very short span of time. One would argue that this argument is invalid because we shouldn't blame messi for staying loyal to Barca and I agree with that, but I don't think that its even remotely fair to discount what an absolutely amazing thing Ronaldo was capable of doing at clubs. Recently, Messi went to PSG and I was honestly very hopeful of seeing him succeed and excel because then no one would be able to make the argument that Messi can't adapt and succeed in teams that are not tailored to him. Much to my disappointment, he was not as impressive as Ronaldo when he went to Real, Juve, or Man U. Messi did not improve PSG in any way, rather PSG actually did worse in the UCL and even though they won the League, Messi was only good for making several passes. He was not the goal machine that he's known to be. So the GOAT debate is subjective and from my perspective Ronaldo is the goat because I find results born of hard work rather than talent to be more impressive, but this doesn't mean that I don't think that Messi is the most talented individualistic player of football of all time.
No one will read this shit
The disrespect towards copa america is absolutely laughable.
Its played every year and has 10 teams. 2 of them are decent. Cavani has won the copa america, i guess that means hes better than messi. ‘Messi fan logic’
It’s deserved
The disrespect towards Copa America is absolutely accurate.
Yup
Please explain why that tournament deserves any respect. There's only about 4 teams that's are good enough to win in the last decade (Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Uraguay).
And compare them to European teams. Brazil are arguably the best out of the 4 I mentioned and they get battered in the world cup, what happened against Germany was a joke.
This Messi fan is so toxic.
And Ronaldo fan was on drugs
@@smarthyt1420 I actually found him to be very rational.
@@TalinDuttaOk, I dont want to start an argument but......only 10 secs in, and the ronaldo fan has just said "Ronaldo's as good as Messi when it comes to dribbling".....I'm sorry but everyone knows that its not true....The number of successful dribbles by Messi is more than that of Neymar's and Ronaldo's combined....
I have nothing against Ronaldo btw, I respect him and I was just stating facts
@@jobithomas901 In my opinion both of these guys are the worst guys to have this debate with however, compared to the Messi fan who just discredited Ronaldo's accomplishments and reputation, I found the Ronaldo fan more rational.
@@jobithomas901 I agree ronaldo wasnt as good at dribbling but ronny is 6 ft 1 that's insane to have that speed and agility at that height, messi is 5 ft 7 and has a really low center of gravity its easier for him to dribble I'd argue
You guys need to link these two again now so the Man United guy can get clapped on international debate😢😢
When he Said just as good as Messi at dribbling, I would have walked off