Great use of window and camera. And you your rights, well done. The plod was polite at times but was also rather rude too - the classic exercising your rights is judged as “being obstructive”. Highly childish & pompous Plod speak. Further, because you didn’t comply with his “unlawful requests” and phantom traffic laws you’re “making the stop longer” etc So what. It’s your time and your rights - not his. LEGALS - you have a legal right to pull over and stop when it’s safe. The hard shoulder is not safe in your view. Legal behaviour. (NB. best to slow down and acknowledge the request). - you don’t have to wind the window down or talk. Legal. - he can try the door so always keep it locked. Legal of him BUT that’s why you look all doors and windows. - setting up the camera. There’s no section of the RTA that says you can’t record the outcome, and it’s reasonable to wait to do this. No sections says “you must answer Police questions within 60 seconds of being stopped! - Plod said “we have a right to examine the licence …check it’s not fake” An outright Lie, an unlawful statement, rather outrageous from a motorway traffic cop. The RTA 88 would say “surrender” your driving licence. It doesn’t. It doesn’t for various reasons. Besides, if the licence is fake it doesn’t matter, the system will tell the officer if the driver has a licence. He actually needs to be confident it’s you. If he’s unsure, issue a producer …don’t invent new laws that don’t exist …that”a licence must be surrendered”. - breath test fine, legal. BUT don’t take their mouthpiece rubbish, they always ask the driver to take it. Refuse. - speed accusation. Legally interesting as he stated your speed was 86, you said it was 75 and could prove it via multiple devices. Can he change the accusation from 86 to 75 lat a later date? (Leaving aside the fact it’s within Force tolerances). I’m unsure tbh. You’re suggesting his equipment or use of it is broken/wrong. It put a huge doubt in his mind. Nor did he want the hassle. My judgement is that he was unsure about the use of his equipment (as it’s calibrated and has a certificate) OR more likely he just guessed. I say this because he never explained exact WHAT speed device he was using. Maybe he was using inboard radar that may have picked up another car. Either way, he was rumbled and wanted to avoid a court case suggesting, even conforming, that he was incapable. I suspect any Magistrate would question the officer about his equipment and why this driver was pulled over. Not once did he say “I say you pull ahead of all the other cars doing c86mph”. Or “you were weaving at speed”. Or “my device tracked you from x to y as you sped away” etc. It was all very general, very vague. I reckon he guessed the speed and was caught off guard when you challenged him. Personally I would defend you as follows: “Two, independent, highly reliable devices BOTH tracked your speed at c75mph at the time of said offence. They are recording devices. My client was at the maximum motorway speed limit (70mph) in heavy traffic and was observing other cars more than the Speedo given the dangerous nature of the motorway and close distances between cars. However, with confidence, he can say when he occasionally glanced down at the Speedo he was doing c70mph. He also kept up with the flow of the traffic, reinforcing his genuine belief he was travelling legally. These comments were all recorded in his phone, and also important is what was not said …my client did not discuss he Speedo readings. He may well have been travelling at 70 mph at the moment of officer “speed assessment”. My client blew zero on a breath test. My client politely fully complied with all legal commands. He vigorously states he was not driving anywhere near 86mph, instead hovering around 70mph, us using he cruise control set to c75, well within the accuracy readings of this vehicle ie 75 on the Speedo could be 68mph. Meanwhile the officer has produced no evidence, didn’t mention any evidence at the time, nor mention any bad driving, and worst of all has changed his accusation from 86 to 75 mph because he now has no confidence in his speed device or how to use it. If he had, he’d produce evidence and charge my client at 86mph. It appears he’s making up the Charge at will, indeed based on hearsay ie what my client admitted to at the time based on his view of multiple devices - and even that is based on GPS trackers not a calibrated speedometer. Sir, why on earth are we here? The real answer is my client exercised all his legal rights, ignored all the illegal commands and untrue Police statements, so this officer now wants to penalise him - without any of the required evidence, instead using hearsay, because he has no independent evidence, and the belief of two officers is required in Law or, a speed device reading. He’s produced nothing. The truth is he has no idea what speed my client was driving at that time. I say “that time” because we don’t actually know when he was supposed to be speeding - that hasn’t been mentioned nor produced via a device. Now then RUclipsrs - what do you think any reasonable magistrate would do … ?
I’ve seen it for myself, the magistrate refused to see my evidence. So it was my word against that of a police officer. In my view that’s a stalemate, the magistrate didn’t agree.
@@johnscott4693, dmc has a valid point. I have seen Magistrates socialize with Police but I have never seen a Magistrate drop around to a defendants house for a beer and a chat about an upcoming Court matter.
Safe on hard shoulder, that's why we are told that if we break down on motorway we should leave the vehicle step over the rail and go up the embankment to wait recovery as its very dangerous
To be fair the officers were fairly decent about it and only wanted to chat re your speed rather than give you a speeding ticket, even though you did admit to doing 76mph in a 70mph zone. I'd have just said I was keeping up with the traffic flow and my speedo indicated 70mph.
Your the effing police not the judge the jury & the executioner ....& if he thinks it is safe to stop in any live lane he shouldn't be in the police....number one priority is safety on the roads...what a tool!!
I worked as an AA patrol on the motorways & believe me, the hard shoulder is the last place you want to be stopping on. I have lost a mate who was working on the hard shoulder, even though every light on his breakdown vehicle was flashing away. The motorway hard shoulder is an extremely dangerous place to be stopped, even for a short while. Any copper who wants you stopped on the hard shoulder of a motorway is a total idiot & needs to be reported. Not as though that would do much good, as none of them are too bright....
Hard shoulder is a bad place to be. A truck nearly hit the tow truck I sitting in for five minutes. I was freezing. The tow guy told me the truck was half way on the shoulder and woke up just in time. 5 minutes of my life on the shoulder and I nearly lost it.
He might have , I believe him when he says that he didn't pull him for that though , if it was he would have given the ticket. I think it was as he said , Julian was the only person not slowing down I think Julian is too honest for his own good tbh, showing that nice guys don't win. Sadly to get ahead in this world you need to be deceitful, and that's only because the police are just as deceitful
Great, more videos then. I dont think I have. If he was telling the truth about ANPR, which I believe he was, then he would have been alerted. His volvo looked quite old and low tech.
@@julianchamberlain5399 you have been brought up well like i was , we are good old honest people , it just seems that 2021 the younger generation havent been brought up that way, its get what you can in anyway you can, and sadly its spread to police, i think the deceit that a lot of police show these days is to try and get easy arrests, nicking criminals is made harder because CPS dont want to know, so its pointless working hard to catch criminals so to keep up arrests on paper they now lie to the public about what they are doing, lie about their legal powers and more often than not escalate things so people lose their temper, then they arrest them, its easy work for them, plus their training is appalling none of them know the law, and on top of that their equipment is so bad they are a year out of date with their insurance checks
Craig Sorry to hear the Sad news Bro Respect Bro 👍 Definitely All the Double Neckers and Arseholes on their Mobile Phones When your Driving a Vehicle from a Ton in Weight to over 44 Ton It should be the Same Jail Time As Murder
Don't let facts get in the way, A lorry driver who killed a "one in a billion" police officer when his truck strayed on to the hard shoulder of a motorway has been jailed for two years and nine months. Andrew Abernethy's truck left the M1 near Wakefield, West Yorkshire, trapping PC Mark Goodlad between his police car and another vehicle, Leeds Crown Court heard today. PC Goodlad was helping a stranded woman motorist with a flat tyre at the time.
A hard shoulder is a place to stop in an emergency. Allegedly driving at 86mph does not constitute an emergency. "You wouldn't get killed because you'd be on the hard shoulder" Interesting quote that should be ignored...always. In 2018 Darren Stokes was killed on the hard shoulder while working for the RAC. In 2019 Jason Mercer was killed on the hard shoulder when his car was struck by a truck. In 2020 a 26year old was killed after his car ran into the back of a vehicle parked on the hard shoulder. So irrespective of how "safe" this officer thinks it is the ultimate proof of proving him wrong isn't much use to the deceased.
So sad to see this , the police are a disgrace these days , do they not realise at high levels the damage that is being done by this kind of harrassment
I regret to inform myself that these two police orificers were actually a credit to our U.K. police force- I think all parties handled this incident very maturely 👏
Your insistance that you weren't speeding after you already admitted that you were kind of detracts from this. Yes, the cop was full of crap in lying about your speed, but you were also full of crap in admitting to speeding and then saying you weren't. In all honesty you both came across as being a bit silly in this.
It really is policy to breath test everyone. The law requires them to have probable cause, meaning they can only test you if you've been in a collision or there's evidence of a potential offence. He was wrong(ish) about the driving licence. You're not required to carry it, so you can't be required to show it, there & then- but he did & it's not your property, it belongs to the DVSA who have authorised him to check it.
Definitely a mistake to confess to speeding. He may have had nothing until you did that. He may have seen your name flag up as someone involved in crimes and went fishing and then you jumped on the hook.
The fact they had no evidence very likely had a bearing on how nice they actually turned out to be. And regardless of the fact that their out of date database showed you had no insurance, they forgot or couldn't be bothered to write you out a producer.
I just uploaded dash cam footage of the minuets before where he said I where he said I was traveling at 86mph and it was safe to stop. Edit: I deleted it now in case they try and use it as evidence against me.
They can try and use it against you, but in reality it would show that they got everything wrong and it would harm their case as the little bit of speeding is out of step with everything else and making a case out of you is disproportionate and not in the public interest.
@@TheSadButMadLad AND it could show the police did everything right, as usual, there's 2 sides to EVERY story, and an innocent man wouldn't have deleted the video, Brett watched it, realised he was in the wrong and deleted it........but then again, that's only 1 SIDE of the story, isn't it ????
@@t5jerry I've seen the dashcam video and it doesn't show Julian doing anything wrong. He is doing exactly what I would do in the same circumstances, driving safely. As for the deleting, it's only been removed from public view - a standard technique in legal cases to not show your hand to the other side ahead of time.
Since when was the hard shoulder a safe place to stop? Never admit that you exceeded the posted speed limit as that is admissible in court and ensures that you will be found guilty. If you had got fined you could always pay with the commemorative coins.
The scary thing is how out of date their insurance database is , im shocked its a year out of date , how many people are being done for no insurance because of their database. There is no problem of pulling off the motorway for a safe place, I hope he isn't going ahead with evading. In this instance I would say its 50/50 , he wasn't an arsehole cop imo , I dont like the fact he has the last say on 86mph though so I would take it to the tribunal and get it overturned. 75 is a fair speed for a 70mph road, I thought they had a 6 or 7mph difference and only pulled for well over 80. Banged to rights on the driving test question though , its one you can't argue. I thought he was a decent copper , I hate the boring "advice" they give though, that's just to feel important,. Overall I have no concerns over this stop, and I hate police, they are corrupt and sanctimonious, he was OK though.
Incorrectly accuses you of driving at an unsafe speed of 86mph then talks down to you for stopping the car at the nearest safe location. Which way does he want it, dangerous or safe?
Decent coppers to be honest. Cannot comment on the speeding allegation as I'm not in the car, however admitting to driving over the national speed limit isn't the best policy and actually admitting it on camera.
@@gerryharding6426 no I'm not I take people as I see them. There was nothing to suggest those coppers were wankers. They were fair with Julian. Luckily I'm not a total copper hater but do resent those who abuse their power. At what point did that copper abuse his powers and make Julian suffer any injustice. I'm glad I see things as they are and only judge on how one conducts themselves at the time.
They were no decent coppers. Just because they didn't drag him out of the car and beat him doesn't mean they were decent. They were officious and overbearing and acted like tyrants. They were also lying, overly pedantic, and took things too personally.
@@mred1704 1/Um.. the officer lied about his speed.. sorry I don’t trust anything police tell me… they all pathological liars.. being lying every since they can open their eyes and mouths.. 2/Why breathalyser the driver!?😳 What’s suspicion did he have he’s under the influence..🤦♂️ 3/Under RTA 1988 Sec.164/165 you can provide your Name/Dob/Address… you don’t have to provide you license to an officer for him to examine. 4/You not obligate to exit the vehicle during a traffic stop.. so why try his door handle!? 5/This lunatic wanted the driver to stop on the hard shoulder risking his life.. where is the emergency!?😳 lying about bogus speeding is the emergency!? 6/RTA 1988 163 require you to stop for a uniformed police officer.. Um.. when SAFE to do so.. this stupid idiot took issues when the driver pulled over when it was safe to do so.. 7/He also took issues with the driver setting up his camera.. um.. I’m surprised the driver doesn’t have a dashcam.. However, the police are pathological liars.. In a he say/she say without a footage.. you going to loose in court.. police will loose their BWV if it exonerates you. Shall I continue or you had enough yet..
A former DC friend mentioned that police 'training' involves the constable doing an 'attitude test' before any further engagement. What they seem to forget many times is that it works both ways.
Just another quick thought, would your dash cam also turn to record the interaction, just for if things got pointy and you needed a back up camera or anything?
You have a red flag on the PNC on your vehicle. Tell them to remove it or its harrassment. From my POV he lied about the speed and had no reason to breath test you either.
Well done, you were very honest with them, that's one reason I love Autistic people such as yourself, so honest and straight forward. Good video. It's kind of worrying that their insurance data base is so out of date though.
Dude...if you stop doing daft stuff just to post on RUclips, perhaps you'd have a happier life. You seem a decent guy...do something positive and useful and post that. Seriously...lighten up 👍
16:43 Big red flag right there my man. I'm actually shocked they didn't check your license for whether or not you should be wearing glasses while driving and check if you can read a number plate from the standard 20 meters.
@@julianchamberlain5399 can you show us the dash cam footage to show you weren’t going ‘no more than 80’ - only as you stated to the officers you have it to prove your speed. I thought they were okay to be fair.
But the speed limit is 70mph so you were speeding whether you want to or like to admit it. After that admission combined with your obstructive attitude, you were actually very lucky you didn’t get a ticket.
@@spandangle334 that’s only a recommendation and not law and also not officially followed everywhere in UK. Therefore still breaking the law and in view could still be prosecuted. Especially after making admission on camera.
Sounds and looks like Australia is becoming a Police State. Regarding the coin racketeering, you need to tell Her Majesty and the Royal Mint that, not me.
I remember being flashed to stop on a dual carriageway with no lane to stop on. I knew the road well so signalled to go onto the exit which was already visible where I knew there was a pullover place. Police weren't happy. I explained like, DUH, this is a really safe place....
I would have done the same as Julian, they have no comeback, if you don't feel safe then you don't pull over, as long as you pull over the first chance of safety
It's road speed that counts, a court won't be interested in what some box on your dash calculated from US military satellites using the theory of relativity.
It would be interesting to hear John Scotts analysis of this video. Are your required to stop in a dangerous place? If he is lying about 86mph? I can prove that I did not go anywhere near that speed. Is his GPS equipment faulty or is it an abuse of powers to knowingly lie as a reason to stop someone? Trying my doors and do I have to give him the licence to see if its fake?
If he had evidence, i would have asked to view it. Not all police cars have speed radar detectors on them, and as you know police are allowed to lie in the course of investigation
@@nicotoscani1707 the officer says at the beginning of the video that he has evidence of the speeding, then later in the video says his patrol car is poorly equiped and has no anpr system
GPS and sat nav are not to be used for speed! They won't stand up in court. You've admitted that you were speeding at speeds upto 76mph! The maximum speed limit as we all know is70! Not like everyone seems to think is speed limit plus 10% plus 2mph! You can be done for just 1mph over the limit.
I would delete this video immediately, Not only have you admitted speeding , you have given your full name your wifes name your car make and registration and your insurance company and your age .... crazy for someone who goes around upsetting people
Worrying about steel boxes hitting him on the back of the head, but not worrying about a 70 tonne steel box travelling at 70mph hitting him on the back of the head🤣
They seemed reasonable. Unfortunately, one of the police is wearing the defaced union flag. Not official uniform. I am offended by this, as my Great Grandad was killed in the Great War for the flag.
I think they were hoping you had a £100 coins worth of diesel on board, still at least you can make an investment at the petrol station you stopped at :)
Honestly, traffic coppers are the best of the bunch in my opinion. I've been stopped a few times in my years and I definitely could of had a fine, and they used that discretion and humanity to give me a break. We've all had a break, and should consider that before we discriminate the entire profession when we've all likely had a good one at some point.
A hard shoulder is most definitely not a safe place to stop on a live motorway. Dear God is he for real? The rest, door opening attempt, trying to escalate, non acceptance that a 3rd party database "could" be out of date, is purely a control thing based on perceived authority. Poor poor policing.
Normally I would say see you in court, but we know magistrates hang on off every word a copper says so would find you guilty what ever the evidence that you have that proves you were not speeding, magistrates dont care and will still find you guilty
Police officer is correct about speed limit - However, as you rightfully said other drivers ignore the national speed limit and for those that have followed the speed limit many have died or been seriously injured by the carelessness of other drivers - Most drivers have no other option than to go with the flow on the motorway to stay safe - Perhaps the police should take this into consideration when stopping drivers that drive with the flow to stay alive
Speed is not a danger. Inappropriate speed is the danger. Driving at 30mph on a 30mph when it's icy, dark and a residential road is very dangerous. Driving at 75mph on a lightly loaded motorway in daylight with no rain is not dangerous.
Weird this insurance in the UK. Here in The Netherlands the car is insured and insurance is collected automatically, so you're always insured unless you don't have any money in the bank. Cops overhere will never stop you on the highway, but direct you off the highway first.
Insurance works the same in the UK. It's just that the police use a central computer system which is supposed to collect the info from all the insurance companies. Supposed to, but it regularly doesn't because of crap computer systems or crap office staff. It was designed to save having to have a piece of paper which could easily be forged and was supposed to be more accurate. But GIGO principle still applies. GIGO - Garbage In Garbage Out.
Why in the world would you admit to 76MPH???🤦♂️ Also, why are you not wearing your GLASSES when driving!!????😳 You extremely lucky the officer did not force that issue!!!🤦♂️ For a traffic stop you not obligated to exit the vehicle or even hand over your license.. simply state Name, DOB and Address… RTA1988, Sec.164/165
They are reading glasses. Yer it was a mistake to admit going 76 or whatever. Turns out to be no more than 75. Everyone exceeds 70 mph and its tolerated on the motorway. Right or wrong its a fact. To prosecute me for going 75 mph on the motorway would just be malice.
@@julianchamberlain5399 What would you call the officer that arrested you for legal tender or the criminals that kidnapped you due to ALLEGED mistaken identity if it’s not pure malice!!🤦♂️ You simply don’t get it.. the police are not your friend.. they happy to ruin your life and move on to their next victim. How do I know this glasses issue.. years ago my friend was giving a producer was told to confirm the details on it.. he said he can’t read it because he doesn’t have his glasses.. promptly, the police seized his car, license and reported him to DVLA they required him to do an eye test to get his license back also charged him to court for good measure!!!🤦♂️
Hard shoulder is for emergencies only as its not a safe space to stop. Safe place is to take the first exit whether that's a junction or services. No point arguing with him about speeding, just ask for the evidence as he's on his own, so he's relying on you either admitting speeding or he has actual video footage. If he then has no evidence he can't give you a ticket as he's on his own. Also I was told in court that you can't be found guilty on forensic evidence alone when a speeding motorist killed one of my family and he walked away. Don't engage with them at the side of the road ever, name address, insurance and mot only and then see them in court if they do give you a ticket and never admit to what speed you were doing or any offence as they use that against you. Hasn't proved you were committing an offence, so has not right to ask for a breath test until the point you admitted to speeding. They have to have justification just like they can't just search you when out in public.
you are incriminating yourself with every word you say. And you don’t need to show a licence - ask for a producer. They did you a favour to be fair - they could of easily issued you a ticket - you admitted you were going 76 on gps.
I don't like Feds and like many many people I know despise them but big up to the officer who had no Ego trip very professional and sincere in his attitude shame there's not more like him apart from wearing that gang sign defacing the British flag I think AB SHOULD GET AROUND MORE AND HAND THEM OUT THE REAL COLOUR BADGE !! Defo a pass for the police !! Give him a medal
He lied about the evidence, if he had it he would have used it. They never use discretion at 15 miles over the limit....... He clearly said it hoping that you would say something in agreement that would incriminate yourself. This is how they are trained to catch people.
@@julianchamberlain5399 yep most likly. Whats next Julian , weve got the coins , now police stops. Do like ur vids. Ur relaxed attitude is great…keep up the good vids
@@julianchamberlain5399 having spent some time on police forums, police have a thing called an "attitude test", basically if you fail their attitude test, by arguing back being non complient, they go harder on you.
If you have NOT summonsed your Trustees/Public-servants into your company/jurisdiction/ court, then why do you not charge them for YOUR time and YOUR performance?....after all, THEY are NOT volunteers......so why should YOU be? Would it not be best to think(and act) like the BUSINESS-man.....NOT the victim?
TUT,TUT,TUT lmao naughty boy!!!! "I was not speeding!!!. I set my cruise control to SEVENTY-FIVE! !!!!. lol yes, we all do it, but technically?..... it COULD have gone a LOT worse there. Well done on de-escalating the situation.
What was the comment for about uploading video to show the good cops? How did he know you would ? All the other bad ones? What’s that meant to mean? I reckon there is a marker. Do a Subject access request and see for yourself.
I've said to you before, months ago. When they LIE, call them LIARS. Only crack your window open 3 inches. We only want to talk to you. I dont want to talk to you. It's about giving advice. I don't want your advice constable. Stop robbing me of my precious time. I WISH TO LEAVE.
Was the other guy a Undercover Motorbike, traffic, Policeman? No obvious signs to let people know he was a Policeman? Fluorescent Jackets are commonly worn these days.
Great use of window and camera. And you your rights, well done.
The plod was polite at times but was also rather rude too - the classic exercising your rights is judged as “being obstructive”. Highly childish & pompous Plod speak. Further, because you didn’t comply with his “unlawful requests” and phantom traffic laws you’re “making the stop longer” etc So what. It’s your time and your rights - not his.
LEGALS
- you have a legal right to pull over and stop when it’s safe. The hard shoulder is not safe in your view. Legal behaviour. (NB. best to slow down and acknowledge the request).
- you don’t have to wind the window down or talk. Legal.
- he can try the door so always keep it locked. Legal of him BUT that’s why you look all doors and windows.
- setting up the camera. There’s no section of the RTA that says you can’t record the outcome, and it’s reasonable to wait to do this. No sections says “you must answer Police questions within 60 seconds of being stopped!
- Plod said “we have a right to examine the licence …check it’s not fake” An outright Lie, an unlawful statement, rather outrageous from a motorway traffic cop. The RTA 88 would say “surrender” your driving licence. It doesn’t. It doesn’t for various reasons. Besides, if the licence is fake it doesn’t matter, the system will tell the officer if the driver has a licence. He actually needs to be confident it’s you. If he’s unsure, issue a producer …don’t invent new laws that don’t exist …that”a licence must be surrendered”.
- breath test fine, legal. BUT don’t take their mouthpiece rubbish, they always ask the driver to take it. Refuse.
- speed accusation. Legally interesting as he stated your speed was 86, you said it was 75 and could prove it via multiple devices. Can he change the accusation from 86 to 75 lat a later date? (Leaving aside the fact it’s within Force tolerances). I’m unsure tbh. You’re suggesting his equipment or use of it is broken/wrong. It put a huge doubt in his mind. Nor did he want the hassle.
My judgement is that he was unsure about the use of his equipment (as it’s calibrated and has a certificate) OR more likely he just guessed. I say this because he never explained exact WHAT speed device he was using. Maybe he was using inboard radar that may have picked up another car. Either way, he was rumbled and wanted to avoid a court case suggesting, even conforming, that he was incapable.
I suspect any Magistrate would question the officer about his equipment and why this driver was pulled over. Not once did he say “I say you pull ahead of all the other cars doing c86mph”. Or “you were weaving at speed”. Or “my device tracked you from x to y as you sped away” etc. It was all very general, very vague. I reckon he guessed the speed and was caught off guard when you challenged him.
Personally I would defend you as follows:
“Two, independent, highly reliable devices BOTH tracked your speed at c75mph at the time of said offence. They are recording devices. My client was at the maximum motorway speed limit (70mph) in heavy traffic and was observing other cars more than the Speedo given the dangerous nature of the motorway and close distances between cars. However, with confidence, he can say when he occasionally glanced down at the Speedo he was doing c70mph. He also kept up with the flow of the traffic, reinforcing his genuine belief he was travelling legally. These comments were all recorded in his phone, and also important is what was not said …my client did not discuss he Speedo readings. He may well have been travelling at 70 mph at the moment of officer “speed assessment”. My client blew zero on a breath test. My client politely fully complied with all legal commands. He vigorously states he was not driving anywhere near 86mph, instead hovering around 70mph, us using he cruise control set to c75, well within the accuracy readings of this vehicle ie 75 on the Speedo could be 68mph.
Meanwhile the officer has produced no evidence, didn’t mention any evidence at the time, nor mention any bad driving, and worst of all has changed his accusation from 86 to 75 mph because he now has no confidence in his speed device or how to use it. If he had, he’d produce evidence and charge my client at 86mph.
It appears he’s making up the Charge at will, indeed based on hearsay ie what my client admitted to at the time based on his view of multiple devices - and even that is based on GPS trackers not a calibrated speedometer.
Sir, why on earth are we here? The real answer is my client exercised all his legal rights, ignored all the illegal commands and untrue Police statements, so this officer now wants to penalise him - without any of the required evidence, instead using hearsay, because he has no independent evidence, and the belief of two officers is required in Law or, a speed device reading. He’s produced nothing. The truth is he has no idea what speed my client was driving at that time. I say “that time” because we don’t actually know when he was supposed to be speeding - that hasn’t been mentioned nor produced via a device.
Now then RUclipsrs - what do you think any reasonable magistrate would do … ?
Magistrates are generally on the police’s side, so they find you guilty to save time.
@@DMC888 I disagree. That is hearsay.
I’ve seen it for myself, the magistrate refused to see my evidence. So it was my word against that of a police officer. In my view that’s a stalemate, the magistrate didn’t agree.
@@johnscott4693, dmc has a valid point. I have seen Magistrates socialize with Police but I have never seen a Magistrate drop around to a defendants house for a beer and a chat about an upcoming Court matter.
@@johnvienta7622 the police, magistrate and even the defence solicitors. It’s like a little club.
The moment you admitted you where doing 76 mph max you are breaking the posted speed limit... Never talk to the cops
Your speedo can be plus or minus 10%.
Yeah, that was a stupid thing to say.
I say it all the time never answer questions or speak to the police.
Safe on hard shoulder, that's why we are told that if we break down on motorway we should leave the vehicle step over the rail and go up the embankment to wait recovery as its very dangerous
To be fair the officers were fairly decent about it and only wanted to chat re your speed rather than give you a speeding ticket, even though you did admit to doing 76mph in a 70mph zone.
I'd have just said I was keeping up with the traffic flow and my speedo indicated 70mph.
Your the effing police not the judge the jury & the executioner ....& if he thinks it is safe to stop in any live lane he shouldn't be in the police....number one priority is safety on the roads...what a tool!!
hard shoulder is for emergencies - as per highway code.
Exactly, there are some horrific incidences of articulated lorries ploughing in to stationary cars on the hard shoulder
One rule for one ..... If you or I stopped on the hard shoulder for any reason other than a RTC or a breakdown you’d get a bollocking.
Never admit to anything above 70mph, speedometers generally overestimate speed anyway. They could have done you for admitting 76 in earshot of them.
NO COMMENT ! 😅
You doing the speed limit.. NO COMMENT!🤦♂️
Exactly what I thought, the worst part was that you had to endure that condescending lecture about going over 70mph.
@@AbsoluteAudits : Lordy, tho not rel here, when 🇬🇧 autibahn copies came along - no speed limits.
Yip 10%
Basically, a moving Tax collection grab attempt didn't quite go as smoothly as planned!
Um.. cuz of the camera!😉
I worked as an AA patrol on the motorways & believe me, the hard shoulder is the last place you want to be stopping on. I have lost a mate who was working on the hard shoulder, even though every light on his breakdown vehicle was flashing away. The motorway hard shoulder is an extremely dangerous place to be stopped, even for a short while. Any copper who wants you stopped on the hard shoulder of a motorway is a total idiot & needs to be reported. Not as though that would do much good, as none of them are too bright....
Hard shoulder is a bad place to be. A truck nearly hit the tow truck I sitting in for five minutes. I was freezing. The tow guy told me the truck was half way on the shoulder and woke up just in time. 5 minutes of my life on the shoulder and I nearly lost it.
You have a marker on your vehicle i will lay money on it. 🇬🇧👍
He might have , I believe him when he says that he didn't pull him for that though , if it was he would have given the ticket.
I think it was as he said , Julian was the only person not slowing down
I think Julian is too honest for his own good tbh, showing that nice guys don't win. Sadly to get ahead in this world you need to be deceitful, and that's only because the police are just as deceitful
@@steve10 I shouldn't have admitted what speed I was going, I should have just denied his allegation.
Great, more videos then. I dont think I have. If he was telling the truth about ANPR, which I believe he was, then he would have been alerted. His volvo looked quite old and low tech.
@@julianchamberlain5399 you have been brought up well like i was , we are good old honest people , it just seems that 2021 the younger generation havent been brought up that way, its get what you can in anyway you can, and sadly its spread to police, i think the deceit that a lot of police show these days is to try and get easy arrests, nicking criminals is made harder because CPS dont want to know, so its pointless working hard to catch criminals so to keep up arrests on paper they now lie to the public about what they are doing, lie about their legal powers and more often than not escalate things so people lose their temper, then they arrest them, its easy work for them, plus their training is appalling none of them know the law, and on top of that their equipment is so bad they are a year out of date with their insurance checks
COPS just can't take a telling and believing that they can't be wrong. Well you obviously are.
“You won’t get killed on the hard shoulder” I beg to differ!!!
Aye correct my uncle and his pal got killed on the hard shoulder
Craig
Sorry to hear the Sad news Bro
Respect Bro 👍
Definitely
All the Double Neckers and Arseholes on their Mobile Phones
When your Driving a Vehicle from a Ton in Weight to over 44 Ton
It should be the Same
Jail Time As Murder
Don't let facts get in the way,
A lorry driver who killed a "one in a billion" police officer when his truck strayed on to the hard shoulder of a motorway has been jailed for two years and nine months.
Andrew Abernethy's truck left the M1 near Wakefield, West Yorkshire, trapping PC Mark Goodlad between his police car and another vehicle, Leeds Crown Court heard today.
PC Goodlad was helping a stranded woman motorist with a flat tyre at the time.
@@craigsutherland5153 The copper is full of it. Sorry about your uncle.......
Fairly sure hard shoulder is for emergencies only and talking to the police is not an emergency.
A hard shoulder is a place to stop in an emergency.
Allegedly driving at 86mph does not constitute
an emergency.
"You wouldn't get killed because you'd be on the
hard shoulder"
Interesting quote that should be ignored...always.
In 2018 Darren Stokes was killed on the hard shoulder
while working for the RAC.
In 2019 Jason Mercer was killed on the hard shoulder when
his car was struck by a truck.
In 2020 a 26year old was killed after his car ran into
the back of a vehicle parked on the hard shoulder.
So irrespective of how "safe" this officer thinks it is
the ultimate proof of proving him wrong isn't much
use to the deceased.
good point !
👌👍👌👍
I think the police officer should have engaged his brain before making the statement “ you won’t get killed on the hard shoulder”
What brain??
More USA police are injured at traffic stops in stupid unsafe places than anywhere else.
Perhaps if you had slipped him one of your £20 coins,he might have allowed you to explain yourself at the beginning!!!
😆😆
Haha brilliant 🤝
It's not legal tender
@@davidcarrs9972 , neither is accepting brides, but they still do that.
Admitting to hardly seeing without glasses could have led to a whole new line of questioning.
I bet that would of been a different outcome if you didn't tell him that you were recording 🤔
So sad to see this , the police are a disgrace these days , do they not realise at high levels the damage that is being done by this kind of harrassment
I Think They Do !!
But they do not care, such is their arrogance!!
I regret to inform myself that these two police orificers were actually a credit to our U.K. police force- I think all parties handled this incident very maturely 👏
He did nothing wrong. Stop being so sensitive.
Thats coz they ain't bothered
Wow, how many straws did they try to clutch at?
"You wouldn't be killed, you'd have been on the hard shoulder" yeah cos no one ever gets killed on the hard shoulder, pillock
Your insistance that you weren't speeding after you already admitted that you were kind of detracts from this. Yes, the cop was full of crap in lying about your speed, but you were also full of crap in admitting to speeding and then saying you weren't. In all honesty you both came across as being a bit silly in this.
I’m only 90 seconds in an I’m annoyed, so because you didn’t give him your licence he’s vindictively said “you’re getting a breath test too”.
It really is policy to breath test everyone. The law requires them to have probable cause, meaning they can only test you if you've been in a collision or there's evidence of a potential offence.
He was wrong(ish) about the driving licence. You're not required to carry it, so you can't be required to show it, there & then- but he did & it's not your property, it belongs to the DVSA who have authorised him to check it.
@@ethelmini You are required to show it, if you have it in your possession.
sod stopping on a hard shoulder.. you did the right thing
This is just great.
Good job Julian.
Definitely a mistake to confess to speeding. He may have had nothing until you did that.
He may have seen your name flag up as someone involved in crimes and went fishing and then you jumped on the hook.
Great work as always brother!
The fact they had no evidence very likely had a bearing on how nice they actually turned out to be. And regardless of the fact that their out of date database showed you had no insurance, they forgot or couldn't be bothered to write you out a producer.
admitted to doing 75/76 straight out the horses mouth on camera so what more proof do you need 🤣🤣
The evidence the Police had would be their video with the speed superimposed on it.
The people on here saying these coppers are decent are coppers themselves. They're all highway men drunk on power.
I just uploaded dash cam footage of the minuets before where he said I where he said I was traveling at 86mph and it was safe to stop. Edit: I deleted it now in case they try and use it as evidence against me.
Seen it before this m8 and I would have done the same thing especially if on a bike 🤣🤘🏻
They can try and use it against you, but in reality it would show that they got everything wrong and it would harm their case as the little bit of speeding is out of step with everything else and making a case out of you is disproportionate and not in the public interest.
Might not be there to beat you up but he sure knows a thing or two about highway robbery. What a Dick Turpin he is.
@@TheSadButMadLad AND it could show the police did everything right, as usual, there's 2 sides to EVERY story, and an innocent man wouldn't have deleted the video, Brett watched it, realised he was in the wrong and deleted it........but then again, that's only 1 SIDE of the story, isn't it ????
@@t5jerry I've seen the dashcam video and it doesn't show Julian doing anything wrong. He is doing exactly what I would do in the same circumstances, driving safely. As for the deleting, it's only been removed from public view - a standard technique in legal cases to not show your hand to the other side ahead of time.
You just admitted to speeding !
Since when was the hard shoulder a safe place to stop? Never admit that you exceeded the posted speed limit as that is admissible in court and ensures that you will be found guilty. If you had got fined you could always pay with the commemorative coins.
It's never been a safe place to stop, and at this point I'd be wanting to verify that he's a real police officer for saying such a stupid thing.
The scary thing is how out of date their insurance database is , im shocked its a year out of date , how many people are being done for no insurance because of their database.
There is no problem of pulling off the motorway for a safe place, I hope he isn't going ahead with evading.
In this instance I would say its 50/50 , he wasn't an arsehole cop imo , I dont like the fact he has the last say on 86mph though so I would take it to the tribunal and get it overturned.
75 is a fair speed for a 70mph road, I thought they had a 6 or 7mph difference and only pulled for well over 80.
Banged to rights on the driving test question though , its one you can't argue.
I thought he was a decent copper , I hate the boring "advice" they give though, that's just to feel important,.
Overall I have no concerns over this stop, and I hate police, they are corrupt and sanctimonious, he was OK though.
The Police system relies on the Insurers updating it, so the officer advising Julian to check with his insurers was good.
Incorrectly accuses you of driving at an unsafe speed of 86mph then talks down to you for stopping the car at the nearest safe location.
Which way does he want it, dangerous or safe?
We don't know if her was seen driving at 86 as Julian was not shown the evidence, which he could have asked to see.
Decent coppers to be honest. Cannot comment on the speeding allegation as I'm not in the car, however admitting to driving over the national speed limit isn't the best policy and actually admitting it on camera.
Never; ever mention a figure.. Just tell them you were doing the speed limit.. END OF!!!👌
Mr
Are you on drugs decent coppers your deluded
@@gerryharding6426 no I'm not I take people as I see them. There was nothing to suggest those coppers were wankers. They were fair with Julian. Luckily I'm not a total copper hater but do resent those who abuse their power. At what point did that copper abuse his powers and make Julian suffer any injustice. I'm glad I see things as they are and only judge on how one conducts themselves at the time.
They were no decent coppers. Just because they didn't drag him out of the car and beat him doesn't mean they were decent. They were officious and overbearing and acted like tyrants. They were also lying, overly pedantic, and took things too personally.
@@mred1704
1/Um.. the officer lied about his speed.. sorry I don’t trust anything police tell me… they all pathological liars.. being lying every since they can open their eyes and mouths..
2/Why breathalyser the driver!?😳
What’s suspicion did he have he’s under the influence..🤦♂️
3/Under RTA 1988 Sec.164/165 you can provide your Name/Dob/Address… you don’t have to provide you license to an officer for him to examine.
4/You not obligate to exit the vehicle during a traffic stop.. so why try his door handle!?
5/This lunatic wanted the driver to stop on the hard shoulder risking his life.. where is the emergency!?😳 lying about bogus speeding is the emergency!?
6/RTA 1988 163 require you to stop for a uniformed police officer.. Um.. when SAFE to do so.. this stupid idiot took issues when the driver pulled over when it was safe to do so..
7/He also took issues with the driver setting up his camera.. um.. I’m surprised the driver doesn’t have a dashcam.. However, the police are pathological liars.. In a he say/she say without a footage.. you going to loose in court.. police will loose their BWV if it exonerates you.
Shall I continue or you had enough yet..
A former DC friend mentioned that police 'training' involves the constable doing an 'attitude test' before any further engagement. What they seem to forget many times is that it works both ways.
Good boy bad boy
Attitude test? It's aptitude test they should have.
Just another quick thought, would your dash cam also turn to record the interaction, just for if things got pointy and you needed a back up camera or anything?
The more I watch the more you are dropping yourself right in it tut tut 🙈
They don't have to take your licence to physically check it because you don't have to have it with you by law.
You have a red flag on the PNC on your vehicle. Tell them to remove it or its harrassment. From my POV he lied about the speed and had no reason to breath test you either.
Well done, you were very honest with them, that's one reason I love Autistic people such as yourself, so honest and straight forward. Good video.
It's kind of worrying that their insurance data base is so out of date though.
Even though the officer appeared to be polite he was still trying it on.
Its in a policeman's blood .. they have to.
Show us your dash cam footage of you not doing 86mph.
Well done standing your ground. He had nothing or he would have nailed you. He did you no favours.
Those pathological liars never do anyone any favours… TRUST ME!!!
@@shookoneldn300 It's not a matter of trust - I know the police are the enemy of society.
Dude...if you stop doing daft stuff just to post on RUclips, perhaps you'd have a happier life. You seem a decent guy...do something positive and useful and post that. Seriously...lighten up 👍
I'm not complaining. I quite enjoyed the interaction.
16:43 Big red flag right there my man.
I'm actually shocked they didn't check your license for whether or not you should be wearing glasses while driving and check if you can read a number plate from the standard 20 meters.
Starts off at 75 then half way through says 76 then at the end admits to doing 78 maybe more lol
But not above 80mph
@@julianchamberlain5399 can you show us the dash cam footage to show you weren’t going ‘no more than 80’ - only as you stated to the officers you have it to prove your speed. I thought they were okay to be fair.
But the speed limit is 70mph so you were speeding whether you want to or like to admit it. After that admission combined with your obstructive attitude, you were actually very lucky you didn’t get a ticket.
@@TheArrowBarrow police chief recomends allowing 10% +2 mph so tech 70 +10% = 77 77+2 = 79
so 78 is still under the 79mph 👍
@@spandangle334 that’s only a recommendation and not law and also not officially followed everywhere in UK. Therefore still breaking the law and in view could still be prosecuted. Especially after making admission on camera.
Slightly above the limit and not winding a window down for a copper?
You'd go to jail for that here in Australia.
Quit the coin racket Chamberlain!
Sounds and looks like Australia is becoming a Police State. Regarding the coin racketeering, you need to tell Her Majesty and the Royal Mint that, not me.
cops in the Netherlands stopped pulling people on the motorway over 20 years ago.
they always take you to an exit/safe spot to talk.
I remember being flashed to stop on a dual carriageway with no lane to stop on. I knew the road well so signalled to go onto the exit which was already visible where I knew there was a pullover place. Police weren't happy. I explained like, DUH, this is a really safe place....
The Speedo in my old granada is about as accurate as a drunk on a seesaw.
Right.. See you at the park at 10.clock.. 🤣
I thought the hard shoulder was for emergencies. My cruise control is 74mph when my dashcam and to Tom tom shows 69mph.
I would have done the same as Julian, they have no comeback, if you don't feel safe then you don't pull over, as long as you pull over the first chance of safety
Mine to.. 😁 we must be related
Same tree, different branches.
It's road speed that counts, a court won't be interested in what some box on your dash calculated from US military satellites using the theory of relativity.
It would be interesting to hear John Scotts analysis of this video. Are your required to stop in a dangerous place? If he is lying about 86mph? I can prove that I did not go anywhere near that speed. Is his GPS equipment faulty or is it an abuse of powers to knowingly lie as a reason to stop someone? Trying my doors and do I have to give him the licence to see if its fake?
See my above comment with the link about the difference between a Constable and an Officer. It’s really very interesting and useful for what you do 👍🏻
If he had evidence, i would have asked to view it. Not all police cars have speed radar detectors on them, and as you know police are allowed to lie in the course of investigation
@@fordcapri6288 the Constable himself said his car was the oldest on the fleet so probably had non of the latest equipment
@@nicotoscani1707 the officer says at the beginning of the video that he has evidence of the speeding, then later in the video says his patrol car is poorly equiped and has no anpr system
You should have said stating at a speedo is driving without due care and attention of what’s in front of you in the window
GPS and sat nav are not to be used for speed! They won't stand up in court. You've admitted that you were speeding at speeds upto 76mph! The maximum speed limit as we all know is70! Not like everyone seems to think is speed limit plus 10% plus 2mph! You can be done for just 1mph over the limit.
Julian, your car is on their hit list.
I would delete this video immediately, Not only have you admitted speeding , you have given your full name your wifes name your car make and registration and your insurance company and your age .... crazy for someone who goes around upsetting people
Worrying about steel boxes hitting him on the back of the head, but not worrying about a 70 tonne steel box travelling at 70mph hitting him on the back of the head🤣
You did everything you could do incriminate yourself
I don't like the police but those two were really fair
If you are in the right, don't get stupid with the officer, give him your licence and details and you will be on your way.
They seemed reasonable. Unfortunately, one of the police is wearing the defaced union flag. Not official uniform. I am offended by this, as my Great Grandad was killed in the Great War for the flag.
I think they were hoping you had a £100 coins worth of diesel on board, still at least you can make an investment at the petrol station
you stopped at :)
I did think about filling up there but I got over half a tank.
I think he backed down over your speed when you mentioned the dash cam.
you admited you were going 75, the speed limit is 70, you were speeding, why act like a prick and p;ay the victim? drive slower and this won't happen
You are one of the few who has never exceeded the speed limit on the motorway?
@@julianchamberlain5399 it's easy when you don't drive
Honestly, traffic coppers are the best of the bunch in my opinion. I've been stopped a few times in my years and I definitely could of had a fine, and they used that discretion and humanity to give me a break. We've all had a break, and should consider that before we discriminate the entire profession when we've all likely had a good one at some point.
A hard shoulder is most definitely not a safe place to stop on a live motorway. Dear God is he for real? The rest, door opening attempt, trying to escalate, non acceptance that a 3rd party database "could" be out of date, is purely a control thing based on perceived authority. Poor poor policing.
Admitted to speeding within the first minute 😂
Dooh!
A poor start to the Video - Passed the test- Good friendly ending - minus the admission of 75 which was an error.
I love it, you tell them you was driving 75-76 mph and can't see a thing without your glasses ha ha .....
Haha. Reading glasses 👓
Lol I’m not here to beat you up, famous last words!
Normally I would say see you in court, but we know magistrates hang on off every word a copper says so would find you guilty what ever the evidence that you have that proves you were not speeding, magistrates dont care and will still find you guilty
Absolutely correct.
You're unlikely to have any evidence. The offence is the speed you were doing, not what you thought you were doing.
Sorry - you were owned in this encounter.
Hi an other one who will not let go of his ego thanks
Police officer is correct about speed limit - However, as you rightfully said other drivers ignore the national speed limit and for those that have followed the speed limit many have died or been seriously injured by the carelessness of other drivers - Most drivers have no other option than to go with the flow on the motorway to stay safe - Perhaps the police should take this into consideration when stopping drivers that drive with the flow to stay alive
Speed is not a danger. Inappropriate speed is the danger. Driving at 30mph on a 30mph when it's icy, dark and a residential road is very dangerous. Driving at 75mph on a lightly loaded motorway in daylight with no rain is not dangerous.
I'm not being an ass.....
The majority would beg to differ.
Thats why I have a dash cam with GPS speedometer
First i want a prize. 🇬🇧👍
Congratulations 👏
@Jesus Jones you dont want the clap. 🇬🇧👍😁
@@scopehitmyeye2019 ya not going to leave me here are ya?
Weird this insurance in the UK. Here in The Netherlands the car is insured and insurance is collected automatically, so you're always insured unless you don't have any money in the bank. Cops overhere will never stop you on the highway, but direct you off the highway first.
Insurance works the same in the UK. It's just that the police use a central computer system which is supposed to collect the info from all the insurance companies. Supposed to, but it regularly doesn't because of crap computer systems or crap office staff. It was designed to save having to have a piece of paper which could easily be forged and was supposed to be more accurate. But GIGO principle still applies.
GIGO - Garbage In Garbage Out.
That officer is really commendable - he actually promised not to beat-up a member of the public.
Top cops, no issue!
Did you notice he said like everyone else??🤔🤔
Public school boy copper! That’s unusual
Why in the world would you admit to 76MPH???🤦♂️
Also, why are you not wearing your GLASSES when driving!!????😳 You extremely lucky the officer did not force that issue!!!🤦♂️
For a traffic stop you not obligated to exit the vehicle or even hand over your license.. simply state Name, DOB and Address… RTA1988, Sec.164/165
They are reading glasses. Yer it was a mistake to admit going 76 or whatever. Turns out to be no more than 75. Everyone exceeds 70 mph and its tolerated on the motorway. Right or wrong its a fact. To prosecute me for going 75 mph on the motorway would just be malice.
@@julianchamberlain5399
What would you call the officer that arrested you for legal tender or the criminals that kidnapped you due to ALLEGED mistaken identity if it’s not pure malice!!🤦♂️
You simply don’t get it.. the police are not your friend.. they happy to ruin your life and move on to their next victim.
How do I know this glasses issue.. years ago my friend was giving a producer was told to confirm the details on it.. he said he can’t read it because he doesn’t have his glasses.. promptly, the police seized his car, license and reported him to DVLA they required him to do an eye test to get his license back also charged him to court for good measure!!!🤦♂️
Hard shoulder is for emergencies only as its not a safe space to stop. Safe place is to take the first exit whether that's a junction or services. No point arguing with him about speeding, just ask for the evidence as he's on his own, so he's relying on you either admitting speeding or he has actual video footage. If he then has no evidence he can't give you a ticket as he's on his own. Also I was told in court that you can't be found guilty on forensic evidence alone when a speeding motorist killed one of my family and he walked away. Don't engage with them at the side of the road ever, name address, insurance and mot only and then see them in court if they do give you a ticket and never admit to what speed you were doing or any offence as they use that against you.
Hasn't proved you were committing an offence, so has not right to ask for a breath test until the point you admitted to speeding. They have to have justification just like they can't just search you when out in public.
you are incriminating yourself with every word you say. And you don’t need to show a licence - ask for a producer.
They did you a favour to be fair - they could of easily issued you a ticket - you admitted you were going 76 on gps.
ohh... you disrespectin me 😭
“I don’t know if you a smart guy or a stupid guy” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 the latter!!
I don't like Feds and like many many people I know despise them but big up to the officer who had no Ego trip very professional and sincere in his attitude shame there's not more like him apart from wearing that gang sign defacing the British flag I think AB SHOULD GET AROUND MORE AND HAND THEM OUT THE REAL COLOUR BADGE !!
Defo a pass for the police !!
Give him a medal
Except he knew he was being filmed so was on best behaviour.
He lied about the evidence, if he had it he would have used it. They never use discretion at 15 miles over the limit....... He clearly said it hoping that you would say something in agreement that would incriminate yourself. This is how they are trained to catch people.
You’ve already admitted to speeding lol.
Yeah probably a mistake. I should have just denied going 86mph
Never admit anything to a copper, they will try fit you up for anything.
I'm sure the Police would of proceeded with a fine without prior knowledge of being filmed and the dash cam evidence.
SHOW US THE DASH CAM FOOTAGE THEN BRETT HAHA
I'll have a look tonight.
Plod actually seemed ok. He still shouldnt have tried your door. He didnt need to inspect your licence.. but he was pleasant enough suppose
Probably cos he knew he was being filmed which is why they said what they did at the end.
@@julianchamberlain5399 yep most likly. Whats next Julian , weve got the coins , now police stops. Do like ur vids. Ur relaxed attitude is great…keep up the good vids
@@julianchamberlain5399 having spent some time on police forums, police have a thing called an "attitude test", basically if you fail their attitude test, by arguing back being non complient, they go harder on you.
loads a people have been killed in the hard shoulder of motorways
If you have NOT summonsed your Trustees/Public-servants into your company/jurisdiction/ court, then why do you not charge them for YOUR time and YOUR performance?....after all,
THEY are NOT volunteers......so why should YOU be?
Would it not be best to think(and act) like the BUSINESS-man.....NOT the victim?
I would have though they would need a valid reason to breath test you. They didnt say what the reading was.
“I wasn’t speeding”
“I was doing 76 maximum”
76 is legal on a 70.
@@GA001 Have a think about what you just said.
You won’t get prosecuted for it but it isn’t legal
@@tonnaboy10 If it’s not legal why can someone never be prosecuted for it?
@@GA001 Because it is not cost effective to prosecute everyone and because of inconsistencies with speedometers and speed cameras
@@tonnaboy10 It has nothing to do with cost effectiveness. You cannot be prosecuted for driving at 76 in a 70.
So you must immediately wind your window down is that a new law. 🇬🇧👍🤔
Why do SOLDiers get medals 🤔
Because the MAN knows SHINNY SHINNY will do .
TUT,TUT,TUT lmao naughty boy!!!! "I was not speeding!!!. I set my cruise control to SEVENTY-FIVE! !!!!. lol
yes, we all do it, but technically?..... it COULD have gone a LOT worse there.
Well done on de-escalating the situation.
What was the comment for about uploading video to show the good cops? How did he know you would ? All the other bad ones? What’s that meant to mean? I reckon there is a marker. Do a Subject access request and see for yourself.
Yes it was a bit weird. How did he know I might upload it to RUclips? I dont mind having a marker on my cars as I'll video them every time.
I've said to you before, months ago. When they LIE, call them LIARS. Only crack your window open 3 inches. We only want to talk to you. I dont want to talk to you. It's about giving advice. I don't want your advice constable. Stop robbing me of my precious time. I WISH TO LEAVE.
If he had no evidence, you could of challenge him if you was only doing 5 miles an hour over the 70MPH
Also he never checked the other insurance company humm??
Was the other guy a Undercover Motorbike, traffic, Policeman?
No obvious signs to let people know he was a Policeman?
Fluorescent Jackets are commonly worn these days.