If the manager already knew about the "unlawful sacking" elsewhere from these coins.....why are there zero signs up in this garage saying - we do not accept x,y, and z coins? They don't have to accept the coins BUT there have to be signs up warning customers, prior to refusal of a lawfully accepted coin. Could have saved himself what sounds like an oncoming heart attack from stress!
Agreed. They don't have to accept any form of payment but there is no legal obligation for me to pay in any other way unless there are clear terms of contract easily seen on every pump.
That is exactly what they must do if they don’t wish to accept that form of payment. It has to be clear as you say in every pump, not just say that won’t accept it. He certainly lost his head in the phone, heart attack waiting to happen.
@@StellaAsh Yes, once the debt is taken on. If when taking on the debt you were effectively contractually obliged to make payments in another manner, then you must honour that contract. So if the pump says "we only accept (payment method)" then you must pay that way or a civil lawsuit will be taken against you to recover the debt.
You have the patience of a Saint 😅 It's been a few years now, I'd just leave. Or I'd stay by the pump. If they gave me the money back, I'd say thank you for the gift... and go.
The stupidity of the bloke on the phone, saying the staff members were fired because of you using legal tender.😅 They were fired because of moron management like him thinking the customer and cashier are responsible for unlawful company policies. Lets get a gofundme page for the sacked employees legal fees and to make a public example of the corporations that are abusing staff and customers. It would set a strong president
Could be just an attempt at shaming Julian into thinking that his actions will lead to someone losing their job. The typical moral imposition in an argument case. Reality is that it never happened.
Huh?? Are you sure the guy on the phone was speaking english?? Ordering people around like they have some authority, just because you pay with legal tender. Weird people
@@MrAndrewFarrow he should put a sign at the pump to say that he doesn't accept legal tender so that people are aware before making the transaction then, as it's where the transaction happens
Omg the lunatic on the phone sounded like he was part of a comedy wind up sketch, but I bet it’s no joke having him as your manager (I think I would rather be unemployed😀).
@@DystopianUtopia no, no, no. They can only be forced to be used to pay a debt INTO court. No one can be forced to take LT. Not even a restaurant nor a petrol station. I wrote to my MP. He passed it onto HM Treasury. They replied that LT has a very narrow meaning, irrelevant to everyday use. The Royal Mint are DEFRAUDING you by selling coins with £30 of silver as “LT BY ROYAL PROCLAMATION”.
Would the simple answer be,signage on each pumps stating the only accepted payment method, ie no commemorative coins accepted , card transactions only. It’s like me filling up my truck with a fuel card that it’s states on the pump not accepted. That then is my problem. If they don’t put signage up with accepted payment methods that becomes their problem. I realise that once you have the petrol there is a debt to be paid , however when you have filled up with petrol without the means to pay because the sign says no commemorative coins or pay by currency in circulation up to £20 notes or card only then you would be in the wrong, am I correct ?
That is illegal. They can stop authorised deductions only such as NHI, Tax, Pension, and union subs unless otherwise agreed by you. If it happens again, go to an employment tribunal.
Be careful people using debit machines in garages! This may sound far-fetched 15 yrs ago in Carshalton some petrol station owner cloned loads of card details. Always pay cash in fact anywhere you go cash is KING!
*If it doesn't say at the pump they don't accept coins over £2, then if they refuse your coin you don't have to leave the coin with them. you can keep the coin. They can't sue you afterwards because you offered to pay with legal tender.* *"Because Tesco allowed a debt to be incurred by providing the petrol before the customer paid for it, they have to accept the customer's offer to settle the debt using legal tender currency. If they refuse to accept this form or payment, they cannot lawfully sue the customer to recover the debt, or have him arrested and charged with any crime relating to non-payment of the debt, because he has already made a legally reasonable offer to settle the debt in a form recognised as legal tender throughout the UK."*
The scam is the fact the mint is issuing these coins in exchange for everyday used cash or debit card payment . They never thought anyone would use these coins must be millions of pounds worth in peoples draws which technically not taken by banks . Great Freud if you own the system
Let the zombie or drone phone the cops you've offered payment he refused. Ergo should just drive out if he refused to accept the payment "paying the bearer on demand" you did so have therefore if that's all you had and they don't accept cash how else do you in peanuts? You presented payment he refused if you refused to pay its theft or bilking but if he refused to accept payment you offered to settle the debt there and then. He can't sue you doubt also its a Police matter as what else are you suppose to do? As for his attitude he wants waiting for and and a good right hook!
@@julianchamberlain5399 probably a horse apple as many a tall tale is told over the phone . but then again anything is possible . was hoping you would be doing some metal detecting audits on public accessible land . is it an act of theft if you do not intend to deprive the owner of the find ?.
As soon as he started shouting at me I'd have left due to feeling alarmed and distressed, and firstly her telling you to wait in the shop and telling you not to leave would constitute wrongful improvement shame you didn't get her saying you ain't aloud to leave. Because then you could have made a civil claim against them
Another great video Julian , that guy on the phone what a nightmare. That person who had the sack because they received legal money for the transaction he or she should take the company to court under unfair dismissal. Regards mark
Excellent to see you again, Julian. You have produced another gem. The rant by the insane lunatic in the other end of the phone is epic. I can only feel empathy for the judge dealing with the dismissal and having to listen to him ranting in a court room. I think I would have him sit in a cell so where for a month or two just for contempt. This would be fair because he clearly has contempt for customers who pay with cash, the issue of whether it is real cash, not everyday cash or not the cash he will accept is poppycock because it is legal tender in the form of cash, issued by the very same organisation that issues all cash. It is interesting and educating to see how cultures clash. The culture that the phone man relates to is very shouty down to others. This is very often due to the others being if low IQ, and who should now to down to the authority of the man, that may very well be linked to, e.g. his surname. The rant feels very narcissistic in manner and the fact that he sacked someone for doing something legal that he disapproved of because it challenged his sense of authority is very narcissistic. Of course, many people of such culture are very well assimilated the culture and practices of the UK. The way that the lady dishes out commands to you shows that she also lives in a world of commanding and being commanded?
"Rights" 😂😂😂 this is the point of the exercise isn't it. This business owner will learn the hard way. No respect for our legislation or even his underpaid employees. Thinks he can throw his weight around and bully people. Unfair dismissal won't be enough to reform this guy. Dread to think how he'll react when he's fined.
4:10 He mentions putting the video on RUclips. Even though Julian is wearing a body cam so not that obvious to the cashier. That means he already knows about the coins. Or at least that people do things to put on RUclips. And he thinks he can win the argument by trying to shame Julian by saying that people have lost their jobs. Double fail.
Amazing how these hothead people come to this country and rant and rave like they are used to doing in their country of origin. Shouldn't one try to blend in when you go to live in another country?
If the boss knows who you are and he owns garages then why didn't the owner put up signs saying no 20 50 or what ever other coins are legal tender he doesn't want to take 😢😢 me a river 😂😂😂
Won't be too long. Strategic reserves are running low and £100 coins are burning a hole in my pocket. Been through alot this year personally, which is why I've been keeping my head down, but nothing else has changed.
The £100 coin. I dont know if the police came as I left after 15 minutes. I doubt they came as its not a police matter but nothing surprises me with the police..
How funny would it be if you had an indian scammer on another phone and just made them battle it out by holding the phones together 😂
Inspired comment 😊
Funny how wherever Indians are employed, it's an Indian in charge... Like, when recruiting, do they put on the ad "non-Indians need not apply"
Most of these places on the fiddle. Job vacancies never advertised.
@@johngreen6191 for sure
And they most likely have a hold on the poor employees
could be a family concern
If the manager already knew about the "unlawful sacking" elsewhere from these coins.....why are there zero signs up in this garage saying - we do not accept x,y, and z coins? They don't have to accept the coins BUT there have to be signs up warning customers, prior to refusal of a lawfully accepted coin. Could have saved himself what sounds like an oncoming heart attack from stress!
Agreed. They don't have to accept any form of payment but there is no legal obligation for me to pay in any other way unless there are clear terms of contract easily seen on every pump.
That is exactly what they must do if they don’t wish to accept that form of payment. It has to be clear as you say in every pump, not just say that won’t accept it. He certainly lost his head in the phone, heart attack waiting to happen.
@@julianchamberlain5399 I don't think Mr Ranty likes you very much ;-)
@@julianchamberlain5399 I was under the impression that they are obliged to accept legal tender.
@@StellaAsh Yes, once the debt is taken on. If when taking on the debt you were effectively contractually obliged to make payments in another manner, then you must honour that contract.
So if the pump says "we only accept (payment method)" then you must pay that way or a civil lawsuit will be taken against you to recover the debt.
You have the patience of a Saint 😅
It's been a few years now, I'd just leave.
Or I'd stay by the pump. If they gave me the money back, I'd say thank you for the gift... and go.
The stupidity of the bloke on the phone, saying the staff members were fired because of you using legal tender.😅 They were fired because of moron management like him thinking the customer and cashier are responsible for unlawful company policies. Lets get a gofundme page for the sacked employees legal fees and to make a public example of the corporations that are abusing staff and customers. It would set a strong president
Do you know who they are?
Could be just an attempt at shaming Julian into thinking that his actions will lead to someone losing their job. The typical moral imposition in an argument case. Reality is that it never happened.
@@TheSadButMadLad I think you are right 👍
@@TheSadButMadLad he's only that angry because he knows a payout is on its way. £££
Huh?? Are you sure the guy on the phone was speaking english?? Ordering people around like they have some authority, just because you pay with legal tender. Weird people
leaving a comment here because legally i can
Which part of Pakistan was this mate ?
So the assistant believes she has special powers to tell people what to do.!
What a rude and ignorant manager who doesn't even know what legal tender is in this country
thats the problem, we let them in and they think the law does not apply to them
Hardly surprising, diversity has it's downfalls.
He doesn’t have to accept Legal Tender.
No one does, except a court.
@@MrAndrewFarrow he should put a sign at the pump to say that he doesn't accept legal tender so that people are aware before making the transaction then, as it's where the transaction happens
@@johnsaidi7601 it would definitely be helpful if he did.
However, he’s not legally required to.
With the way he reacts on phone you would think he would have seen Julian coming 😂
Omg the lunatic on the phone sounded like he was part of a comedy wind up sketch, but I bet it’s no joke having him as your manager (I think I would rather be unemployed😀).
Sorry but was that a chicken vindaloo with two keema naan’s
You should bring 1,000 rupees as back up.
Which ESSO was this Julian? I think they’d be interested to know how their franchisee’s talk to their friendly customers, paying with cash.
Do tell us and we will ALL go there with bags of coins/cash...
Another day another win.
Always pay with cash
This guys unbelievable. What’s his problem
If this happens, easy unfair dismissal claim to employment tribunal and 20-50k better off in 12-16weeks 😅
No. If the staff accepted worthless coins against company policy, they won’t win any Tribunal.
@@MrAndrewFarrow How did you work out they are worthless? They are legal tender and can be used to settle any debt to the face value.
@@DystopianUtopia no, no, no.
They can only be forced to be used to pay a debt INTO court.
No one can be forced to take LT. Not even a restaurant nor a petrol station.
I wrote to my MP. He passed it onto HM Treasury. They replied that LT has a very narrow meaning, irrelevant to everyday use.
The Royal Mint are DEFRAUDING you by selling coins with £30 of silver as “LT BY ROYAL PROCLAMATION”.
@Don't Shoot *Legal
unless they have worked there for 2 years you can sack anyone you like without giving a reason
Is the cashier Citizen Khan's wife off the box?
It would be like winning the lottery if this happened to me
Hey Julian amazing and eye opening that people are still unaware.hope your well. Have a awesome weekend.
The phone call had me in bits "All because of you" 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 !
Why did you even interact just leave you made payment done if he wants to call the filth their prob! Fuel drawn debt settled done!
The polite gentleman on the phone sounds like the guy from Microsoft that calls me up to fix my computer but never has any decent recipes to offer...
Bwahahahaha that was brilliant, i think her boss needs to go on an anger management course.
Would the simple answer be,signage on each pumps stating the only accepted payment method, ie no commemorative coins accepted , card transactions only. It’s like me filling up my truck with a fuel card that it’s states on the pump not accepted. That then is my problem. If they don’t put signage up with accepted payment methods that becomes their problem. I realise that once you have the petrol there is a debt to be paid , however when you have filled up with petrol without the means to pay because the sign says no commemorative coins or pay by currency in circulation up to £20 notes or card only then you would be in the wrong, am I correct ?
100%
That explains the staffing issue, thanks Julian
I prefer staff who done harass customers standing up for their human rights. It’s legal tender end of!
@@theghostwatcherkeepitreal4618 lol
@@Oatmeal300 you are welcome sweet pea
@@theghostwatcherkeepitreal4618 the ghost watcher your mum is a bitch
Never ever get bored of your content good to see you back Julian 😊
chuck the bloody phone out the window
When the end of the world comes people will be grateful for a bit of silver.
One day I'll go round all the garages and buy them back at face value.
What's the betting he pays the compensation to his staff in coin of a certain ilk?
If he watches the videos he would known a sign on the pump would have avoided this interaction. But he's too angry to think logically.
He's gone off into one.
How dare you pay in cash !!!… 🏇🏽🏇🏽🏇🏽🏇🏽🏇🏽🏇🏽🏇🏽🏇🏽
The gang master doesn't except legal tender lol
Used to work in a petrol station.
They took out my wages if i was short or there was a drive off.
That is illegal. They can stop authorised deductions only such as NHI, Tax, Pension, and union subs unless otherwise agreed by you. If it happens again, go to an employment tribunal.
@@RonSeymour1 left the job long time ago. But it still happens.
@@balance3201 What? All this time later they're STILL taking money out of your wages, if the till cash doesn't balance? lol
They are not allowed to do that.
@@thecorbies to others lol
Be careful people using debit machines in garages! This may sound far-fetched 15 yrs ago in Carshalton some petrol station owner cloned loads of card details. Always pay cash in fact anywhere you go cash is KING!
*If it doesn't say at the pump they don't accept coins over £2, then if they refuse your coin you don't have to leave the coin with them. you can keep the coin. They can't sue you afterwards because you offered to pay with legal tender.*
*"Because Tesco allowed a debt to be incurred by providing the petrol before the customer paid for it, they have to accept the customer's offer to settle the debt using legal tender currency. If they refuse to accept this form or payment, they cannot lawfully sue the customer to recover the debt, or have him arrested and charged with any crime relating to non-payment of the debt, because he has already made a legally reasonable offer to settle the debt in a form recognised as legal tender throughout the UK."*
The scam is the fact the mint is issuing these coins in exchange for everyday used cash or debit card payment . They never thought anyone would use these coins must be millions of pounds worth in peoples draws which technically not taken by banks . Great Freud if you own the system
Let the zombie or drone phone the cops you've offered payment he refused. Ergo should just drive out if he refused to accept the payment "paying the bearer on demand" you did so have therefore if that's all you had and they don't accept cash how else do you in peanuts? You presented payment he refused if you refused to pay its theft or bilking but if he refused to accept payment you offered to settle the debt there and then. He can't sue you doubt also its a Police matter as what else are you suppose to do? As for his attitude he wants waiting for and and a good right hook!
Can you find out more about this court case Julian? Was the £185 payment actually you?
Be interesting to find out more!
It would be interesting. Hopefully someone who knows will comment.
@@julianchamberlain5399 probably a horse apple as many a tall tale is told over the phone . but then again anything is possible . was hoping you would be doing some metal detecting audits on public accessible land .
is it an act of theft if you do not intend to deprive the owner of the find ?.
@@EvenBigger-Brother a horse apple 🍏 is a phase I had never heard of?
@@moodobusiness American slang for a sun dried horse turd . big Stephen king fan .
Love it, be cause of you should be a top ten new song 🎵
But this is the levels of insanity we've let it get to and become!
This makes we want to spend nothing but £100 coins from now on.
British empire reversed 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I did not understand a word he said on the phone, can he please learn English and accept English currency.
Was you speaking to cartland of southpark cause he's a angry little person
Love a bit of Cash National !
oh wow hahaha
As soon as he started shouting at me I'd have left due to feeling alarmed and distressed, and firstly her telling you to wait in the shop and telling you not to leave would constitute wrongful improvement shame you didn't get her saying you ain't aloud to leave. Because then you could have made a civil claim against them
I definitely would of demanded a translator 😢😢😅
I don't know about calling the police, you need to call him and ambulance as it sounds like he's having a clutcher 😂
Judas backstabbed Jesus for thirty pieces of silver but nowadays you can't buy black gold with one piece.
Another great video Julian , that guy on the phone what a nightmare. That person who had the sack because they received legal money for the transaction he or she should take the company to court under unfair dismissal. Regards mark
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Excellent to see you again, Julian.
You have produced another gem. The rant by the insane lunatic in the other end of the phone is epic. I can only feel empathy for the judge dealing with the dismissal and having to listen to him ranting in a court room. I think I would have him sit in a cell so where for a month or two just for contempt.
This would be fair because he clearly has contempt for customers who pay with cash, the issue of whether it is real cash, not everyday cash or not the cash he will accept is poppycock because it is legal tender in the form of cash, issued by the very same organisation that issues all cash.
It is interesting and educating to see how cultures clash. The culture that the phone man relates to is very shouty down to others. This is very often due to the others being if low IQ, and who should now to down to the authority of the man, that may very well be linked to, e.g. his surname.
The rant feels very narcissistic in manner and the fact that he sacked someone for doing something legal that he disapproved of because it challenged his sense of authority is very narcissistic.
Of course, many people of such culture are very well assimilated the culture and practices of the UK. The way that the lady dishes out commands to you shows that she also lives in a world of commanding and being commanded?
What an angry man... poor poor management.
Kalergi plan
cool herringbone jacket dude :)
They have to put up signage saying no coins. During the recent troubles card only signs all over the place.
"Rights" 😂😂😂 this is the point of the exercise isn't it. This business owner will learn the hard way. No respect for our legislation or even his underpaid employees. Thinks he can throw his weight around and bully people. Unfair dismissal won't be enough to reform this guy. Dread to think how he'll react when he's fined.
4:10 He mentions putting the video on RUclips. Even though Julian is wearing a body cam so not that obvious to the cashier. That means he already knows about the coins. Or at least that people do things to put on RUclips. And he thinks he can win the argument by trying to shame Julian by saying that people have lost their jobs. Double fail.
Jeeez, he sounded like a rabid monkey!
I think you should have got a receipt. I didn't see you getting one.
Entertaining as always ….. you can use card or cash but not that cash, then tell you what to do/where to wait like they have some authority 🤣
This is a bit sad .I would buy her she can live with me but i only have 5x £100 coins .she seems a good worker .
Brilliant just brilliant great thanks for your videos are brilliant
Amazing how these hothead people come to this country and rant and rave like they are used to doing in their country of origin. Shouldn't one try to blend in when you go to live in another country?
Jai Hind! 🇮🇳 Was the guy on the phone from a different caste? Another good one 😀
If the boss knows who you are and he owns garages then why didn't the owner put up signs saying no 20 50 or what ever other coins are legal tender he doesn't want to take 😢😢 me a river 😂😂😂
That’s old saying “another day, another day init” 😂😂😂
Like a child you paid in cash the staff sued me, thats your fault. In the adult world if you do nothing wrong you dont get sued
The problem with Society these days is the can't accept when somebody is different
the guy on the phone is on drugs lol, huge shout out for connor construction keepin it real respec xD
Any sackig going on should start with that manager
Sorry can you say that all again I couldn't hear you 😂😂
Are the coin audits ever going to return? 😂😂
Well, he was a charming gentleman on the phone, wasn't he.
Can tell by his eyes he be a lonely unloved boi
What the mighty heck was that all about 😂😂😂😂 Nice one Julian, stay safe out there buddy 👊
You should a have brought the ICMB, then they'd take you seriously
Need wheels, lights, numberplate and towbar fitting.. 😁👍
Makes me want to go out and get some coins now 😊
Very professional manager 😊👍
Ahh, lovin me some 'D'...😅
Hope you can find the x member of staff and give them support in their wrongful dismissal claim ... Would add weight to your local action ...
Feel free to contact me here dismissed staff..
Also, why does she need you to come inside? They have your face? Your licence plate...
They would lock me in and say you are not leaving until you pay by card as if they have that authority.
Have you tried going to a bank to deposit the coins.? See if the refuse legal tender. 🤔
I did try and pay my credit card at Barclays Bank once. Here is the video.
ruclips.net/video/My9l-wkka-4/видео.html
If you are not going to film it,don't foookin bother....
Elaborate
Loving these! When’s the next one!
Won't be too long. Strategic reserves are running low and £100 coins are burning a hole in my pocket. Been through alot this year personally, which is why I've been keeping my head down, but nothing else has changed.
@@julianchamberlain5399 thanks for the update mate! Great to here you are going to be making more videos soon!
@@julianchamberlain5399 what do you mean by, do I want to do a silver stacker video?
@@julianchamberlain5399 do you stack as well mate? I’ve just been watching all your petrol station videos. Loving them lol
With customer service like that, that Esso station doesn't deserve to stay in business.
I would never knowingly be a customer of such vile people.
I'd have stayed at the pump until the police arrived.
Best one yet - Pure Poetry in motion. What a phone call. Beautiful.
I couldn’t deal with a manager that gets so angry like that. Feel sorry for the poor staff and customers on receiving end
So the manager said two people for the sack and are taking Shell to court?
Good, I hope it costs them a lot of money!
Disgusting , the Royals should be involved
😂😂😂 your hilarious
Love it ❤
Just because of you.... ^.^ you mad bro?
What sort of coins did you use and what happened... Did the police come?
The £100 coin. I dont know if the police came as I left after 15 minutes. I doubt they came as its not a police matter but nothing surprises me with the police..
Brilliant suff love it ✌️
"open the door" 😂😂😂
Silly 🐮
Awesome content as always 👍🏻