Yamaha XSR900 VS Kawasaki Z900RS (Full Comparison)
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
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Right tool for the right job. I'm a 40yo rider. I like comfortable but sometimes spirited cruising across midwest rural roads. Got myself a z900rs and it feels just perfect for me.
I believe you man. It is all you need. Drop by buddy.
I'm probably too old to be watching these vids, but in the late '80s the 70's Z900 was a classic. A friend did one up in Candy Apple Red and she looked Stunning. Just a note in case you're ever thinking about changing her colour. These bikes are all thru the first of the Mad Max movies. Worth going back to watch if you own one.
Cundalini wants his hand back....
@@tsubadaikhan6332 You are not bro. Nobody is to old. Have to agree about the Z900 story and history. Amazing bike that made a lot of remarkable moments in history also within the film industry. Drop by man, you may like my content.
@@tsubadaikhan6332 Holy cow.... It took me 2 months of ownership and your post to realize that simple fact!!! Time to watch it again... "i'm a fuel injected suicide machine..."
Hahahaha to the mad max references, I also love the old Zed( had a Z1000j3 for a few years) I’m British and was in Australia for a few years and owned a 73 Holden ute ( Australian pick up truck) which was like the Sandman Holden panel van that was in Mad max, with cundalin’s hand attached to it …. Lmao
The z900rs is slow, docile and mundane?! I think you've spent too much time on the busa.
They compared it to a full exhaust, racing geared and power commandered Yamaha. Which handles like crap. 🤷♂️
Totally agree my 2018 pulls strong and if they knew when to shift it, it would have performed better against that ugly Yamaha LOL I love all bikes.
Definitely not a slow bike but it's not a supersport and as she said her bike has Racing sprockets my bike has Racing sprockets they make a huge difference I Bury my speedo in 2nd gear
@@wirenut3020 yeah it’s such a silly comparison. They are definitely underestimating the impact of the mods.
Love the video. Z900RS definitely looks and rides older. I love everything about my XSR900: The excitement and the Neo-retro look is unparalleled. I think the team has already tried to downplay their preference by giving one subjective aesthetic point to Z900RS.
Test a 2022 XSR 900 next time, they made a bunch of improvements and it looks like an incredible value for the money.
they made it ugly though. was waiting to get on when i sold my 18 r, but ffs it got ugly :(
Wouldn't have to leave the lot for new yamaha to win
@@michaelmarks8315 lmao my dude 😂
@@wesavage1 hmm Idk man I actually think it looks cool but then again I actually like the MT09 as well.
@@wesavage1 Personally, I think only the seat looks questionable, and that's something you can easily change. Considering that everything else is better spec wise and the rest of the bike sans the seat still looks great, then it's a no brainer.
xsr900: 20 year olds who still think they are indestructible.
z900rs: people who survived their 20’s
I love my XSR900 because the power delivery makes me feel like I'm on 2 strokes again 😂. Although I do enjoy smoother power delivery of other bikes like ZX14R.
Exactly, this would describe both. Drop by man, you may like it. :)
The Z 900 was The Bike until the early 80's when I was young. As soon as I have the coins I buy one and install a 4 to 4 exhaust and on I go for my last adventure on hearth. I'll ask to be buried with it.
Perfect description. Early 30 something here wanting that RS even though the xsr has better features.
z900rs: Grandpa's who remember it from their 20's. sxr900: mine
Maybe it's just me but I love the sound of the Kawi engine
Nope, it’s not just you. I have the standard Z900. It’s a great noise! 👍
I put a Delkevic decat header, Leo Vince LV-10 Black slip-on, and finished with an Ivan’s Tuning reflash. Holy shit Batman, it’s awesome. It’s probably madness with the air box mods and Akropovic setup!!
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They are too young to see the major appeal of the 900RS to us boomers - the look of it! It is such a nice redo of the original Z1. The Yamaha is a retro bike? Nothing like the 70s/80s bikes I knew
I would say the XSR900 is more "retro vibe." I like the mix of old and modern.
Yea the Yamaha looks more like a Suzuki SV650 than anything. I wish Yamaha had used a similar design philosophy because their three cylinder engine is so great.
I’m 29 and bought the rs, I love the bike
Anyone who grew up watching the classic Aussie movie Stone, Z900 every time.
I owned the XSR900, now I ride the Z900rs. The comparison in this video is spot on. I’m more of a lazy ride, so very happy to keep the Kawa.
Strange, when the original Z900 appeared it was the the fastest bike normal money could buy, with 82 Hps. Now its "midrange " in spite of beeing too fast for most riders to handle!
Yeah, 50 years of evolution will do that. I cherish my 1973 Kawasaki catalogue like a holy relic, the original Z1 was such a good looking bike.
@@CaptHollister Yes, and a Swedish magazine hought my Moto Morini Corsaro Veloce was a tad too slow..... Funny fact, a couple of years ago I met this journalist on a trackday. He drove a BMW SX 1000 RR and even though I drove relaxed and not pushing at all I almost lapped him within 6 laps, with my slow, old (2010), 1200 twin with only 150 Hps and 200 kgs wet.....
82 hp isn't too much for most people to handle, unless most people have extremely poor impulse control or something like Parkinson's, causing them to violently twist their right wrist at inopportune times. My bike has 86 hp and no rider modes, and I've never found it to get away from me or be too much to handle or anything like that. I tried the 1290 Super Duke R a while back, that was very difficult to handle smoothly, but that has 175 hp.
@@Domitianvs Maybe I was unclear. Meant more like using the full potential of the bike..... not cruising around on midrange without opening the throttles!
@@rolsson4365 You have to also take into consideration that the original Z900 had poor suspension, poor brakes, was heavy ,and had a poor frame.
Of course 82hp would feel sketchy....
Meanwhile, 120hp feels reasonable on any mid 2000s 600cc bike on account of their excellent frame, suspension set-up and proper brakes. Zip ahead another 10-15 years to today, and that same original 82hp feels underwhelming on current day sport bikes with not only great frames, suspension, brakes, but ALSO modern electronic aids (ABS, six axis TC, wheelie control).
It's not just the HP you have to take into account, but all the other improvements that makes something from 20-40 years ago that was fast feel relatively under powered today.
First off, elephant in the room, wtf is on Yams upper lip.
Second, as a 2022 MT09 owner, coked out is a great way to describe the CP3. Suspension on the MT comes so soft from the factory, literally zero preload on the front forks. Once you dial in the suspension it holds a line great! Would love to see a video on the current gen mt or xsr.
Looks like Buddy skipped Arm day. lol
Among all the comparison videos of these two bikes, this is the most meaningful to me, so far. Well done!
having owned both the kawasaki and a mt 09 all be it in the form of the tracer i can tell you that the build Quality on the z is far superior than the yamaha and im surprised all 3 of you failed to mention that fact. also riding the yamaha at speed over 110 mph is a scary expirience where as the z is planted up to and over 130 mph....the z is a far superior motorcycle trust me.
Yamaha 100% has taken Kawasaki to school with the new XSR 900
Before there were reasons to go with Kawasaki, now you are just plain wrong except when it comes to looks (both bikes look great).
But in terms of capability or the level of tech its not even a contest, the XSR is on another planet. Also you cant question Yamaha's engines, the CP3 is mindblowing.
@@Surpriseify don't know about the new xsr but do know about the one featured in this video and comparing the two the z is by far superior
Ok again, you’re comparing a bike with a taller transmission over its stock form and a lower revving tune to a bike that’s got a sport naked motor and trans with race sprockets. Put one on stock sprockets vs a stock z900
When I had my z900rs, what I loved about it was how chill it was. Just an all around fun bike for all day cruising.
Same here. Went from a 2017 XSR900 to a 2018 Z900RS. Never have I regretted it. I love the RS.
to me the Z900 RS is just a good looking bike, i just love the aesthetic of that bike. currently on an MT07 but i know what my next bike is.
Why not the 2022? Comparing an old model at this point seems a bit misleading.
That's what I came here to say the 2022 XSR 900 has ALOT of improvements I've the older ones.
This!
@@thabrownieviking they probably wanted to have one, but they’re really hard bike to come by. Being that they’re amazing probably. I love my 2021 MT-09
Because it is sold out everywhere? :D
Good luck finding a new XSR.
I've been a big fan of Kawasaki since I was 5 years old or so. Had many small engine things with Kawasaki engines, and have always had the best of luck with them. A lot of people think Kawasaki is basic, but when every other manufacturer does something crazy, and Kawasaki sticks to it's roots, does that mean it's still basic? By the way, comparing these two.. The Kawasaki is a MUCH better looking motorcycle.
Kawasaki seems less suprior but its a facade. If they got as much attention youd see theyre better.
With a bit of suspension adjustment and some heavier front fork oil the Z900rs eats up the twisties at a good spirited pace. Fabulous bike that looks like a very pretty plodder but surprises many with it's performance and agility 👌
That intro had us dying 😂
Coming from the Mt09 and now on the z900rs café I loved my Mt09 but the Z900rs for me is a all around motorcycle and I don’t understand why you guys think it doesn’t want to rev I actually pushed mine with more confidence than my Mt09 plus the build quality is more superior.
But I don’t think the XSR is the direct competitor, the z900rs is more in comparison with the speed twin.
I kind of wonder how it compares to the an r nine t or the current 900 monster? Obviously, both of those are twins, along with the speed twin, so I'd expect more low range torque.
Maybe the Z900rs is just alone in being a four cylinder, standard with retro design. Sure, there are still plenty of four cylinder bikes and cafe inspired bikes, but the Z900rs is the only currently produced center of that venn diagram, that I can think of...🤔 The Honda cb650r is probably the closest, but with less horsepower and torque (I'd nearly forget about it.)
@@whimsicalstray there is also the CB1100 from Honda but I think this bike has been discontinued so yeah I think the Z900rs is the only 4cyl from the retro style bike which make me want to appreciate it more 👍🏽
When I started watching Yammie, he did all the content alone. Both Spite and Whitney are great additions to the team. Well done everyone. Oh yeah, and nice cookie duster, Yam.
Yeah, it gives Yam that porno look.
I have a 2021 Z900RS Cafe and installed the Dale Walker Holeshot tune on it including headers, exhaust, air box mods, and AFR tuner and it woke it up! Way more torque and power. Probably still not the characteristics of the XSR but huge improvement in performance.
Spite: but in closing it is nothing compared to the Pan America.
Yammie: damn it.
I have owned the Z900rs Cafe for 2 years and I love it. Just got back from a trip to the UK and they have all the colorways there plus the Z900 se. They had 3 of the SE with Brembos and Ohlins and each one was already sold. I wish the US had more choice , thanks HD 😞 Anyway for my riding style and comfort expectations the RS is the perfect bike.
Cannot add anything more. Z all the way. :)
I'll take the Z900 RS, more my style of riding. I satisfied my need for speed in '88 on my KZ1000 LTD. Just cruising for this old body now.
Upgraded my 2019 Z with K-Tech F&R suspension, Bridgestone S22’s, K&N filter, Delkevic decat header with Leo Vince LV-10, and an Ivan’s Performance re-flash. I am now riding the canyons in classic Japanese moto BLISS!!! Great video!
I have done similar, but after suspension upgrade, my front wheel has a high speed side to side wobble which it didn't have before... so far I am the only one I know with this problem!
@@robertqueen2938 What area of the country are you? I had my suspension and other work done by J.J. Matter at Suspension Matters in Azusa, Ca. He’s amazing!
@@dblr3000 I live in Maryland. Glad to hear you’ve had great success. I’m still trying to figure out the issue, hopefully I don’t need a stabilizer!
Half the fun of owning a motorcycle is when you're done riding pop a cold one and look at it. Hands down Kawi wins.
Compare stock to stock! These bikes are for two different riders, not a head to head comparison. I had the pleasure to ride a 1973 Kawasaki Z1 900 for several years. It was my older brother's and I even took my test for my motorcycle license on it at 17 years old. Bronze and Orange is the only color that a Z900 rs should be!
I’m still riding my first bike at 65 hp and 59 lb ft and hearing all these comments about how the Z900 RS is “sedate” are just kinda hard to wrap my head around.
I don't know what kind of performance the XSR 900 can do with aftermarket changes, but for my z900rs I've got a Brock's kit and performance camshaft and its putting down almost 130hp at the wheel. Now does it rev up as quickly as the XSR, I don't know, but its plenty of power for myself and so much better looking and comfortable over the XSR.
Your quality is getting better guys!
Slow? Mundane? Suspension will start to “fall apart” in a zesty cornering situation??? It’s sort of sad that this is where new riders get their information.
Ikr so misleading and false
Ive rode my friends z900rs a few times and never noticed it falling apart in the corners when pushed, wasnt completely used to the motorcycle but still past all the superbikes with their 10 levels of traction control and other electronic aids. I dont think alot of these young riders know how to ride motorbikes fast without electronic aids even then 90% are still slow.
This is the only video I’ve heard someone say that about the rs 😂
The RS gas just enough sauce to make it fun and very comfortable for a 6’3 rider. In-line 4 sounds SWEET
Iam 100% a dual sport guy through an through, but if I ever got any kind road bike, it would certainly be that kawasaki 900, I freaking live that bike!!!!
the new RS has this candytone blue that is really nice.
with the regular RS, the brown & orange color way is the one to get.
XSR has also been available in a beautiful blue (though I don't know which years).
I love that root beer brown / orange RS.
I am lost. I rode a 2005 C50T for 10 years. 542lbs, 45hp and 45 ft/lbs torque. The numbers on both the bikes in the video are amazing. I have to imagine riding either one is more thrilling and faster than my C50T ever was.
Great comparison, about a month after I bought my FZ09 lol! I was actually looking at the z900rs cause I wanted a 4 cylinder bike that wasn't uncomfortable (I have a grom and an fz07) and I saw the fz09 pop up for cheap so I jumped on it and "settled" on a 3 cylinder hooligan bike, and I have zero regrets!
Both nice bikes but it sure would have been nice to see the Kawasaki up against a bone stock Yamaha. I like the engine in the Yamaha but the Kawasaki looks way way better (at least to a guy that was riding for a few years already way back when these first came out).
Not only it looks better but it is also built to a much higher standard. The Yamaha feels extremely cheap
@@thebulgarianguy8461 I don't doubt that one bit. Kawasaki build quality has always been second to none.
Flash the ecu and put an exhaust on the RS and compare apples to apples. Makes a huge difference on that bike. It definitely wakes that 948 up.
These guys are wankers
Who does the ECU flash?
Hmmm these reviewers obviously don’t understand the history… the z900RS is a salute to the legendary z900 featured in the CHiPs TV series, the original Mad Max movies and the Australian 1975 bike movie Stone. It’s a retro bike for old dudes who rode these bikes in the 70s and survived.
Yep, and that’s why I’ve got a Z900RS, and done a lot of miles on it.
The thing is the z900rs is meant to be an easy going streetable z900. The xsr900 was always an mt09 with better ergos and suspension for sporty riding. It’s just not the best comparison in my opinion, xsr900 and mt09 compare a lot more directly to the z900
Agreed. Slightly off comparison imo as well
My XSR is so much fun. Makes other bikes feel docile that is for sure.
After riding my Nighthawk 750 for 550lb+10yrs 470LB is feather light to me.Dont think its "mundane" either.Lets face it its a street bike not a race bike and in this role its spectacular! Great engine,Style,Paint I4 what's not to like? Needless to say Z900RS is better overall bike stable beautiful dare I say better for rational adult rider.
Yo I learned on my dads 93 Nighthawk 750 and I kept trying to tell him it was a heavy bike and he was persistent that it was normal for bikes
I just wonder if something like a indian scout is going to be better because i get floor boards and sit in it like a couch so im nit goingnto be going around getting as many speeding tickets plus murica i really like this kawi but i also really like vtwin vro
Nice video. Would always go for the Z in this case. :) Keep up.
"Can you be more specific?"
"Here's the same thing I just said but with more words..."
"Spite... Uhhhhh"
Very nice production quality, putting the new hires to work!
Need to visit Ivans tuning for the z900rs. He proper wakes it up with his mods
Yep I did the Ivans flash and airbox mods along with the Akropovic headers and it takes the shackles off without turning it into the deathtrap that the XRS is. You guys call it rowdy but to me it was just unpredictable and dangerous.
I’ve had my Zrs for about 3 years now and this has always been what I thought was it’s closest competitor. I have always thought that the xsr is a little faster, a little cheaper but the Zrs is a little better looking
Yammie is a red hat away from opening his videos with "it's a me, yammienoob"
Honestly it looks like you started out rolling faster on the xsr900 but the z900rs reeled it in
Someone caught the bias....
As some one who just went through cross shopping these. The tech pack on the 2022 xsr900 really makes other bikes seem underdone. Also if the frame updates are what they promise then only the styling will hold you back.
Okay but i dont like the screen execution its nicer to have real guages
The Z 900 is for the nostalgic of the 70's and 80's. You just need to install for 4 to 4 exhaust and you'll feel 40 years younger. No need to buy a Harley anymore when you're over 60. The Yam is cool particularly the new 2022 model in blue, I like it but I'll never drive it the way it deserves.
If you like a bike, ride it. We love motorcycles. That's why we ride . Don't matter what you ride if you're happy
Go Whitney (I'm unsure how to spell your name) It's great to have a lady being a great motorcycles tester. You're very good 😊🤝
Kawasaki is a very pretty bike, XSR Yamaha isn't...
I l8ke what the xsr is but it's one of the ugliest bike out there. The z900rs is a supermodel
All we have to do is wait for Suzuki to revive their Bandit series
there's gotta be a little Mad Max hiding in that Kawasaki somewhere. it's just playing hard- to- get.
Our little Canadian show has made it to Texas
Would have loved to see the 2022 XSR900, not a fair comparison
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That’s the best looking XSR I’ve seen
Yammie and Letterkenny are literally my 2 favorite things, ferda.
I have a Z900RS. I agree with your report, honestly. It is so eloquent, it is CIVILIZED!
Xsr900 is the best :) now how can I find one?!?
Great. Love to see the new XSR900 compared to the old.
Doesn't it look wicked? And very nicely equipped, too. I want it
yammie' stache is the best part of this video. i mean, great video. it's just ... that stache tho! also, sick retro yammie shirts. im buying one right now!
2023XSR Blue/Gold here.. Just do it.. it's a total Redo, Maybe even more Hooligan, and it's Great! Might have to move the Pegs down, but very nice Hardware here. Just because you have it doesn't mean you have to use it. Know your limits, live to tell about it. Pushing 70 here, had a H2 at age 17.
I'm no even really a retro guy, by damn is the Kawasaki just out and out beautiful
The XSR seat is about 20mm higher than the MT09. I find the riding position on the XSR very comfortable.
Just Spite mentioning Dark Souls makes me wanna have a 12 hour conversation about Dark Souls with him 😂
I ended up selling my z900rs and went back to the beauty MT09… :)
Love the bump in production quality. It does not go un-noticed.
Agreed, Kawasaki. “Why even make a black one? Just make them all green.” (Owner of a black Ninja 1000, here, wishing beyond wishing I could’ve had green.).
Have to say Whitney’s (sorry if it spelled wrong) input and opinions in the past few vids have made it more entertaining. Her choice of words regarding the male anatomy have made Me laugh out loud. Keep up the good y’all!
Ie, chicks with boners rule. 🍆🍆🍆
I haven't seen the video yet, but I was searching something from papa yam about the XSR900, and I wanted specifically to see a comparison with the Kawasaki. This is strangely weird, but very very appreciated!
I can tell you which one looks better, the Kawi all day.
But I've already done the retro thing, with a ZRX 1100 in red, silver and black which really looked like the GPz I wanted when I was in high school.
The fact you guys over the other side of the pond refer the the Z900RS as the ‘Zee900RS’ and not like we do in the UK ‘Zed900RS’ means all u have to do is say it like we do and the bike instantly becomes cooler
love the letterkenny style intro lol
Whitney, this channel is so much more spicy since you've started. As soon as I saw your bike, I knew this was going to be a great video. By far, my favorite words to hear on any video you're in is "Lady boner" it tells me all I need to know.
A letterkenny cold open? I love you guys
As an owner of a 2019 XSR, I haven't a clue what Whitney is sharing regarding the frame and cornering. "It's horrible yet that's what makes it fun...?" The bike I ride corners beautifully and handles far above many bikes in it's class. It's a rare one-of-a-kind, engineering sweet spot at a price that if under a different manufacturer, would be 20-30% more and spend most of it's days in the shop to maintain. Between rider modes, traction control and a healthy respect for the throttle, the XSR can easily be authority under control..., however, this bike does not suffer fools and desires appropriate respect when riding no matter how experienced you may or may not be.
The Z900RS blows the other retro bikes out of water just on looks, but I can appreciate that some people like the wild bolted together look of the XSR900
I actually own the XSR700 but only because I had to settle for it, the Z900rs I was dreaming of was just too damn expensive.
Maybe it was your luck that you had to settle. The XSR700 is a great motorcycle 👍🏻
@@dennishusted2434 I definitely don't regret my choice, it's a great bike.
Mundane is not what I would call riding the Z900RS. Yes, its not an ultra aggressive bike like the MT09, XSR, Monster 1200, etc, and that's because that's not the purpose Kawasaki had in mind for this bike. They did that with the regular Z900 (125hp and more aggressive riding position). The RS model is more of a daily bike that is still a ton of fun to ride.
digging the new camera work. well done!
I don't remember an XSR900 back in the day. It just isn't retro. Which is what the Z900RS is. My1976 Z900 LTD was red.
This is such a good channel and I am not even a rider :D I wish they had something similar for cars. I subed just for the great stuff you mention in a very fun way !
before i bought my new XSR900 in 2020 i also test rode the Z900 before it. the XSR900 felt more playfull and with more personality.
That is what I've been told. The z900 is just hammered by the ECU and exhaust system from the factory.
@@cz75fanatic easy fixes if you ask me, the z900rs is definitely prettier than Yamaha's. I hate what Yamaha is doing to all of their bikes, since 2018~ looks and aesthetics wise.
That XSR900 looks like someone stole parts off it. The Kawasaki has that classic look that gives us aging boomers our Viagra fueled erections.
Let's not mention the fact that I like riding a motorcycle that feels like I'm riding over snakes in the twisties.
I'd like to see a comparison with the Z900RS and the new Harley Nightster.
It's kinda like going to the gym and you see the smaller person pushing themselves to the limit then the big person lumbers in and doesn't break a sweat.
THIS IS A DUMB COMMENT!!!!! I really dig how you integrate a woman into moto evals cuz guess what, it doesn't matter what you got down there, bikes are awesome for everyone and its cool that you recognize and communicate that with your vids. Awesome!
Yeah for real! - why didn’t you guys get the invite to the 2022 xsr900 press launch in Ventura?!?
Why did we buy the z900 just to shit on it in every video 😂😂 that poor bike never stood a chance
Had to at least give a like for the acting .. keep it up fellas, and lady😉
Oh and spite turn that rear preload in about a 1/4 to half inch and the rebound front up 2 compression up 1 from stock and the suspension becomes awesome.. a mid pipe wakes the motor up sound and feel , just throwing it out there.
What the hell is on your face super trooper!
Kidding, thanks for yet another great video! 🤙🏼
I love those Letterkenny cold openings
for me the beatiful yamaha is a street bike and the kawa is a classic well no just a classic but the most beautiful bike of all time