Less than 100HP is a beginner bike? That’s ridiculous. What’s really ridiculous is street bikes making over 175 HP and can go over 200MPH. Where do I ride that?
I think that list is not that great. Having the Street Triple and MT09 on the list, but calling the Z900 too ugly? What the hell, especially the MT09 is one of the ugliest nakeds on the market in my opinion, the Street Triple is actually quite a nice Bike, but the headlights....horrendous. I´ve driven a MT09 (not SP) and I didnt like one thing about it besides the quickshifter and blipper, the seating position is more like a supermoto, which I dont like at all, the handlebars are in a very weird spot, way too high, the risers look awful and look at that exhaust...what is that. I know its hard to meet all the new regulations and stuff but slapping a massive steel box under the bike with no design whatsoever and ugly welds, thats not it. To make it all worse, I dont like the new headlight design at all, the old one was way better, but both are way way way too high killing the line of the bike. As much as I like the R1 and R6, that thing is a design nightmare. Anything under 100hp is a beginner bike? Oh boy...must be an American problem. 90% highway and 10% what you guys call "twisties", basically a road with very minor curves.
Z900rs it is, it fixes the one problem with the z900 the ugly looks, the z900rs looks elegant yet powerful, that's what I'd choose if I were in a middle-aged man with a corporate job. But I am not a middle-aged man so fuck it, just go and buy the screaming inline 4 supersport you want and let your chiropractor deal with the problem later Inline 4 supersport are a dying breed anyways, who knows when they'll get replaced by boring parallel twins filled with all the torque and none of the sound, enjoy the inline 4 while you can
As some one from Europe, the reason we class 4-500s as a middle weight bike is because of our licensing system. Most people start on a 125 so going to a 500 is a big jump. So seems more middle weight. It’s also restricted to 46bhp in the UK so a 100-150bhp bike is not middle weight.
Plus our narrower roads and terrible conditions (both road and weather) means there’s less need for the extra HP above say an average 650cc 75hp bike. 100+ would likely be classed as a big bike
I learning on the street triple r 765. Not gonna lie a year of riding and I’m happy with it but I wish I got the rs or moto2. I considered the trident but I’m very happy I chose the r over it. The safety features and my age probably helped because I was cautious. But if you’re older and looking to start riding a bike I wouldn’t start lower than a 650.
Ouch, I just got t boned by a deer. I'm either going to replace my V-Strom 1000 or call it quits at 62 yr old. None of my friends can imagine me without putting 15 -20,000 miles a year on a bike. I'm thinking Ninja 1000 for a more relaxed ride, but these smaller bike might be nice, being lighter weight for my older age. At any rate it's always fun looking for my next bike.
The Z900 is good at everything, a great bike, but it doesn't stand out in anything. It is much heavier than the others and does not have the cornering of the Ducati, the KTM, the Aprilia or the new MT-SP.
The katana is a stunning bike! But it’s really quite the weapon. Literally!! 152hp right? But if you feel you’re ready for it, try one out? If you’re not doing much long distance I’d say the tank isn’t really a deal breaker. Personally I want to tour with my bike too so that plays into my decision making.
It rides really nice But so does many of the 4 cyl jap bikes, and they are actually RELIABLE Aprilia and big miles dont go hand in hand, which means anyone who rides A LOT just cant choose them sadly.
XSR 900 Older model looks and design was SO AWESOME... SADLY I didn't like that New model's looks and design...😮💨☹️👎🏻 Guys, just compare BOTH bikes new model vs old model...side by side... you will see...
@@Jacob99174 pros is you can add a lot of factory options. I added tpms, cruise control and heated grips. Cons is the wind blast but you’re riding a naked so it’s expected. It’s also less range aka smallish gas tank. Can’t get 200 miles on a tank of fuel.
@@Jacob99174 more pros is the traction control and cornering abs. If you’re getting after it in the fall in some turns and come across a bunch of leaves and start to skid it’ll catch you before you get out of sorts.
unpopular opinion...the tank on the z900 looks like it sorta melted into place...really round and lacks presence. it kinda makes the bike look sad ultimately making it ok looking, but not gorgeous or as good as it could look. now, with most other bikes you have to put up with ugly headlights...which apparently is the most difficult part of a bike to design cause almost no bike has good headlights...Triumph Street and speed triple lights have ugly bug looking lights, all the Yami MT bikes have ugly unfinished looking headlights, KTM lights.....angular and ugly. Honda Hornet headlights....droopy, pointy, and ugly. Suzuki naked bikes....derivative and ugly. And it goes on and on. so, its either headlights or gas tank...i guess the tank is less noticeable...
@@ericlismumze9932 i like the headlights of the smaller MT03/MT125, they're almost perfect except the ball high beam light, but it doesn't look bad at all, also Z1000 headlights are good looking. Street Triple RS has a good base, but the "eyes" are too detached from the body, it looks like a mantis
Gladius SFV650 all the way........... I own one, running a IXIL twin pea shooter, and the 90 degree V twin sounds too good. Plus the power delivery is perfect
The gladius is a great, torquey, reliable analog motorcycle for beginning and intermediate street riding. The IXIL sounds almost as nice as it does without a muffler(the dude before me chucked the stock muffler)
Im from India and dude the traffic in the cities are insanely frustrating, super chaotic! Then there are mountain area with narrow and twisty roads. The starter/beginner bikes are all the 125-250cc which range from 10-30hp. The 400cc with around 40hp are considered to be great, almost like intermediate level. Somewhere in between beginner and intermediate, closer to being intermediate.
This segment is full of jewels, so many good options... but once you tried the KTM there are not room for doubts, the fun factor - big smile on the face - that produce the Duke is above all others in this category. Orange love 🧡 !!!
Tried the KTM this summer. It's nice, light and flickable. But it felt like a cheaper street triple minus the fantastic engine note to me. Has better handling though, i'll give it that.
@@andeez_nutz I use the bike to commute through out 30 km of mountain twisty roads and just a few kms of urban traffic, the 890 Duke higher torque at low rpms makes a difference compared to the Street Triple. Even thought, the sound of the three cylinder engine makes the Triumph an ear candy!
How are 900cc and 1200cc bikes called middleweight? Do you actually mean weight, which is a weird parametric to classify bikes in. Like you already pervy call bikes 'naked'. Tourers, racing, etc. Now are we supposed to classify bikes under weight class? Yeah no thanks .. mate. To me the 900cc and 1200cc in this video are high end, but not super-bikes or hyper-bikes. What more classifications do you need? Mid-sized (engine sized) bikes to me are 500cc to 750cc. Although some 7500cc bikes are proper high end bikes. Then again what's the point of asking, since you're too rich to talk to your audience?
How is a 1200 a middleweight??? When I started my riding career, some 40 plus years ago, a litre-bike was considered huge, and a middleweight would have been something like a 500cc. I am perplexed at the rate at which the goal posts are being moved.
Put a deposit down on a 2018 Street Triple RS. Test rode it on Saturday, and i fell completely in love, and will be a perfect upgrade from my now totaled Z400.
Just got my 2018 RS 2 weeks ago. Maybe it's 2019 model for you guys in the states. Anyway, I test rode the newest model RS first (love love the looks of it). But found a fantastic deal for this 2018 model. The money savings and basically 90+% of the performance of the latest model sealed the deal. WHAT A BIKE. I'm coming from an Benelli Leoncino 500. Enjoy it when you get yours!
papa yams, I'm selling my 2023 rebel 500 abs se and my 2023 ninja 650 in order to get a 2023 hya-frickin-busa, and I WILL be turboing it in the future, don't worry
Hey I wouldn’t get that for the price get a zx10 or gixxer 1000r or s1k bmw . One it’s a heavy beast. Two price there are all competing in price. But do you , but be safe and have fun
Sorry Yammie Noob but the Ducati Monster is still a V-twin and not it a true a 90 degrees from 0 degrees nor dose it resemble a L shape one of the cylinders and head would have to be considerably shorter in over all length about the half and that pretty much the end of the story.
I watched a commercial for you yammie.. Hopefully the other 53K viewers did as well? RUclipss just becoming such a clunk-fest in how it works... its well kinda not worth it anymore you know, just trying to watch vids? Also even though I'm a subscriber, I haven't seen any vid recommendations from you-tube for you in a long ass time..
So…. How are these bikes for noobs? I’m a responsible person with a mature age and I want to start riding. Seems like a headache to get a 400cc +/- size bike only to have to sell it later, then buy a larger bike (capable of sustained highway speeds/distance is the goal). I’m really leaning towards the TKM, possibly the MT-09, as a first bike. That means testing and learning. Last time I road a bike solo was eighth grade… DECADES ago, literally. Everyone I know has a bike, even my girlfriend, Honda Shadow Phantom brand new off the floor.
so the speed twin 1200 is basically 13k, the street triple R is 10k.....so which is better bang for buck then? i won't be doing any track days, Love the aesthetics of the Trident, but want little more kick in the rear, the Daytona 660 engine in the trident would really have me interested...ALOT....but, that isn't an option, so, the R is 3k cheaper, but i would imagine the twin is more suited for daily cruising? but how much more suited? is it better than the R to the degree that its worth the 3k price difference? or is it more nominal where you are better off saving the coin cause the R is maybe better in corners or something. which has more range for weekend day trips with my old duffer harley homies? i know the twin would fit in little better with the cruisers, but more important i don't want to be "that guy" who always is low on gas when everyone else has half a tank.
There's not a motorcycle in that group that I would be interested in buying. For street use they're too big, too fast, too expensive, and with two exceptions, too European. The Aprillia isn't too big, but it's too aggressive, and worse than European, it's Italian.
in this class 🤔i dont know i prefer more torq down low with less topend power for dailyriding 😉👌🏻for me allthose bikes sucks 🤷🏻♂️except speed twin 👍🏻i would take it from this group 😎👌🏻only issue which im seen for me taste is 💩 gearbox with 6 gears 🤮and lil to much weight 👉🏻 220 kg however 112 nm at 4250 rpm compensate this be alot 👌🏻 and seat looks not enough befee and not enough comfortable beside this 👍🏻 at least in terms of engine characteristic overall construction dont onow how internal construction of engine most likely dont have goat driving gears instead stupyt chain and valve on glass most likely 🤮🫣 but yea overall defenitely take it from this group cos of best engine characteristic for daily riding 👍🏻 you ask what is ideal power level for road aplication it always depend on somebodys needs for me its 60 hp 👌🏻sweet spot for 200 kg naked bike 75 nm at 4 k rpm 60 hp at 7 k rpm from 750 inline 2 270 degrees on drivewheel and screw valve +5 gears not 6 😎👌🏻 comfoy ergo , suspension breaks frame tires perfect so like always usd45 /14- c/13 320 /4 p 260 /1 p strong stable frame tire 120-160/17 5 100 km/h 4000 rpm 90% torq at 2000 rpm 👍🏻so low rev strong lowend good elasticity + very weak topend performance atleast in regard to bike which you show in this video thats me type bike for normal daily riding commuting toruing whatever defeintely not r6 characteristic with huge rpm huge topend power with weak lowend 🤮😎👌🏻but you already know me version i quees 😉.closest from this what is available be nc750 except 💩 geometry to much gears and overall its adv not me type bike 👌🏻 +to heavy the same as speedtwin 🤮
I’ve only had a Ducati Monster 1200R. I’m very happy with it. Feeling curious about getting a new bike, not sure what I should go for. BMW, Streetfighter, SuperDuke, MT10 or just move to a streetbike? I just commute in the city and hit the hills on the weekends.
Would you be able to do a review comparing the pros and cons of what would be a better race bike build. 2020 765 moto2 or a 2023 765 rs? engine and geometry comparison
as an irish person any bike from 300-500 id say is middleweight and anything above that is heavyish weight. then 1kcc+ is just unnecessarily overweight bikes
The Ducati Monster was the first baked bike I ever laid eyes on back in the mid 2000’s, and I fell in love with it. Still one of the most gorgeous bikes out there in my opinion
2023 XSR900 here.. Dunno, hard to beat the newer Yammer 9 triples what a package. got mine for $10.3K. Get it tuned with a long tube header exhaust, upgrade the front pads, maybe the -1, +2 sprocket change if you like competitive racing 2nd tier liter bikes to 120 and don't like loosing ALL the time. Living the life. Suspension is good! learn to adjust it. 420 Lbs. is worth a few pony's for this beauty it's the Big Block Torque/pull at low RPM you want. Most of the time, you never finish out the wind up. The Z900 would be my 2nd choice, not a big fan of the formidable Thumper twins. Back in the day, the Air Cooled 4 cylinder Honda 750's were Wide! The 6 cylinder was Silly! The 3 cylinder H2 only had 3 cylinders (but still air cooled), was about as wide as a bike could be without dragging the alternator cover. Now with water cooling, even a 4 cylinder is fine. your mileage may vary.. whatever you pick, the quick shifter is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED (worth at Least 0.5 sec in the quarter), and get the ABS as a requirement. You can always turn it off.
Insurance gets pricey at some point.. Seems they might go by CC.. and specifically ask about Turbo/Super charging!! The Yammer 9 is Not cheap insurance, they seem to be jacking rates as a rule these days.
for retro lovers like me, A ducatu nightshift is all i need, not that i cannot buy one but other commitments have priority, so happy with hunter that is one sixth of the price of that ducati but almost 80 percent fun due to very challenging indian city conditions
I think anything under 100hp with less than 70nm torque is good beginner bike (if ergonomics are what you want) and should not been considered as middle weight. And I'm from Europe. :)
Well he did say that “In 2024 anything less than 100hp is just a beginner bike” so there’s your answer right there. Numbers aside, I rode a ninja 650 and it is noticeably weaker than the bikes he’s putting forward. Even the RS, with its 660cc, has 32 more horsepower and in fairness that does kinda put it into another category. IMO there ought to be ‘small mid’ and ‘large mid’.. 1000ps for example divides the middle class in that way.
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Less than 100HP is a beginner bike? That’s ridiculous. What’s really ridiculous is street bikes making over 175 HP and can go over 200MPH. Where do I ride that?
Agree same thing for cars that go over the state speed limit because you can't do that
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All of these things have electronics that you can use to neuter them.
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No shit. For several years most 1000cc super-sport bikes could hit 100mph IN FIRST GEAR. For why? Most won't ever see one minute on a track.
Z900 too ugly, but MT09 good? OK, right.
we got lot of potential new releases at EICMA in a week you may need update this list 😀
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Yamaha R9 anyone
@@juanesteban8938 if R9 comes out. I'll buy.
XSR900 GP? Whether it rides good or not (it will) it looks stunning
@@juanesteban8938mines well get the 1000
I think that list is not that great. Having the Street Triple and MT09 on the list, but calling the Z900 too ugly? What the hell, especially the MT09 is one of the ugliest nakeds on the market in my opinion, the Street Triple is actually quite a nice Bike, but the headlights....horrendous. I´ve driven a MT09 (not SP) and I didnt like one thing about it besides the quickshifter and blipper, the seating position is more like a supermoto, which I dont like at all, the handlebars are in a very weird spot, way too high, the risers look awful and look at that exhaust...what is that. I know its hard to meet all the new regulations and stuff but slapping a massive steel box under the bike with no design whatsoever and ugly welds, thats not it. To make it all worse, I dont like the new headlight design at all, the old one was way better, but both are way way way too high killing the line of the bike. As much as I like the R1 and R6, that thing is a design nightmare.
Anything under 100hp is a beginner bike? Oh boy...must be an American problem. 90% highway and 10% what you guys call "twisties", basically a road with very minor curves.
The Street Triple front end is absolutely predatory - I love it!
True the MT09 won‘t win any beauty contest, nor will the Monster imo. That‘s why I don‘t understand why he called the Z09 ugly.
@@Gojo1911 Don't compare Monster's beauty with MT 09's pointless headlight design
Z900rs it is, it fixes the one problem with the z900 the ugly looks, the z900rs looks elegant yet powerful, that's what I'd choose if I were in a middle-aged man with a corporate job.
But I am not a middle-aged man so fuck it, just go and buy the screaming inline 4 supersport you want and let your chiropractor deal with the problem later
Inline 4 supersport are a dying breed anyways, who knows when they'll get replaced by boring parallel twins filled with all the torque and none of the sound, enjoy the inline 4 while you can
What!? The Z900 is ugly?! Bullock! Yes, I own a Z900. What's amusing is I chose the Z900 over the MT09 because I thought the MT09 was ugly...lol
As some one from Europe, the reason we class 4-500s as a middle weight bike is because of our licensing system. Most people start on a 125 so going to a 500 is a big jump. So seems more middle weight. It’s also restricted to 46bhp in the UK so a 100-150bhp bike is not middle weight.
Plus our narrower roads and terrible conditions (both road and weather) means there’s less need for the extra HP above say an average 650cc 75hp bike. 100+ would likely be classed as a big bike
@@jayhill9225exactly, and what would be above as a heavyweight in this list? 900cc as a middleweight is ridiculous.
In India though anything greater than 300cc is considered a heavy bike.
The real reason is because your government controls everything😅😅😅
I learning on the street triple r 765. Not gonna lie a year of riding and I’m happy with it but I wish I got the rs or moto2. I considered the trident but I’m very happy I chose the r over it. The safety features and my age probably helped because I was cautious. But if you’re older and looking to start riding a bike I wouldn’t start lower than a 650.
To each their own for taste in style. I think the z900 looks great and the triple reminds me of a BeetleBorg.
Yeah if he thinks the Z is ugly then how bout the Mt09? I think its the worst looking bike on the market😅
I still think my 2020 z900 is one of the best looking nakeds on the market but for whatever reason the z gets shit on here in America SMH
I recently bought a 50th anniversary Z900 and other than the fit of the bike it looked so much better than the street tripple or MT-09
middleweight used to be 400cc in the 70s. A Z900 was massive.
me too -- maybe 2 bikes out of all of those would i call middleweight aprillia & triumph
Ouch, I just got t boned by a deer.
I'm either going to replace my V-Strom 1000 or call it quits at 62 yr old.
None of my friends can imagine me without putting 15 -20,000 miles a year on a bike.
I'm thinking Ninja 1000 for a more relaxed ride, but these smaller bike might be nice, being lighter weight for my older age.
At any rate it's always fun looking for my next bike.
XSR900
Ninja 650? Light, fast enough, comfortable, affordable. With your experience, you can use all the power and put the fun back into motorcycling.
Did he called z900 ugly after picking Duke 890 in the list?
I love the new z900.
Yeah I think he's a Z900 hater 🤣... personally I think the Z900 looks the best, the Triumph looks like a damn Fly lol
@@ahhhdfg2 I think only ducati and aprilia looks better than Z900, no way MT 09 and KTM is better looking than the Z900
I thought the z900 looks good?
I don't downvote you, but, BAD SQUID, BAD!!
It's illegal to like the looks of that bike.
@@irishtrash5 to much like the zh2 or what? I like the green sub frame look?
@@Rossi_dudeit’s just that the sugomi design isn’t for everyone. Love it or hate it..
I personally own the bike from the video thumbnail and it is perfect man. Styling is absolutely gorgeous and performance is so balanced
Sorry Yams but you’re wrong. The Z900 is a gorgeous bike. No way you can say it’s ugly but have the bug headlight street triple on the list.
those goggle eyes on the triumphs are terrible
The Z900 is good at everything, a great bike, but it doesn't stand out in anything. It is much heavier than the others and does not have the cornering of the Ducati, the KTM, the Aprilia or the new MT-SP.
Its like a ninja turtle coming at you😂🐢
Z900 looks basic
I'll drink to that. The street triple is the ugliest naked bike in production, in my opinion.
I'd love to see you do a vid on the Suzuki Katana! Whether it's a review or a "So you want to buy"
Yeah! It’s a cool bike. Just the small tank puts me off a bit
@@witjas123 I've been riding my Mt-07 for a bit now and have been thinking about trading it for the Katana but I'm so on the fence lol
The katana is a stunning bike! But it’s really quite the weapon. Literally!! 152hp right? But if you feel you’re ready for it, try one out? If you’re not doing much long distance I’d say the tank isn’t really a deal breaker. Personally I want to tour with my bike too so that plays into my decision making.
You can’t go wrong with the RS660. I use mine of weekend runs and track days. It is the perfect balance, for me at least.
How long have you had yours? Have you had any issues? I want one so bad, but we don't have a dealer or mechanic on island
They really do seem like a lot of fun. I'm happy with my Street Triple, but I would definitely consider an RS660 if I had to replace it.
yes, if not the connecting rod breaks by 2000 miles @ 120mph like my Bros rs660
It rides really nice
But so does many of the 4 cyl jap bikes, and they are actually RELIABLE
Aprilia and big miles dont go hand in hand, which means anyone who rides A LOT just cant choose them sadly.
I had one, it drunk oil like an alcoholic when they get some whiskey, had it for 3 months traded it for an MV Agusta.@@808Mark
XSR 900 Older model looks and design was SO AWESOME...
SADLY I didn't like that New model's looks and design...😮💨☹️👎🏻
Guys, just compare BOTH bikes new model vs old model...side by side... you will see...
Bro I think both looks awesome but to my taste, the new design made it one of the most beautiful sub1000cc bikes ever created in terms of aesthetics
@@fingolfin3843 I respect your opinion. 😄👍🏻
I already have a 2024 Street Triple 765 RS
@@Jacob99174 pros is you can add a lot of factory options. I added tpms, cruise control and heated grips. Cons is the wind blast but you’re riding a naked so it’s expected. It’s also less range aka smallish gas tank. Can’t get 200 miles on a tank of fuel.
@@Jacob99174 more pros is the traction control and cornering abs. If you’re getting after it in the fall in some turns and come across a bunch of leaves and start to skid it’ll catch you before you get out of sorts.
The Z900 is gorgeous, much moreso than the hideous MT-09 lol.
Just try some cornering with both bikes and you´ll see why the MT is preferred.
unpopular opinion...the tank on the z900 looks like it sorta melted into place...really round and lacks presence. it kinda makes the bike look sad ultimately making it ok looking, but not gorgeous or as good as it could look.
now, with most other bikes you have to put up with ugly headlights...which apparently is the most difficult part of a bike to design cause almost no bike has good headlights...Triumph Street and speed triple lights have ugly bug looking lights, all the Yami MT bikes have ugly unfinished looking headlights, KTM lights.....angular and ugly. Honda Hornet headlights....droopy, pointy, and ugly. Suzuki naked bikes....derivative and ugly. And it goes on and on. so, its either headlights or gas tank...i guess the tank is less noticeable...
@@ericlismumze9932 i like the headlights of the smaller MT03/MT125, they're almost perfect except the ball high beam light, but it doesn't look bad at all, also Z1000 headlights are good looking. Street Triple RS has a good base, but the "eyes" are too detached from the body, it looks like a mantis
I have a speed twin 900 has my first bike and it's great, a great option imo
Gladius SFV650 all the way........... I own one, running a IXIL twin pea shooter, and the 90 degree V twin sounds too good. Plus the power delivery is perfect
The gladius is a great, torquey, reliable analog motorcycle for beginning and intermediate street riding. The IXIL sounds almost as nice as it does without a muffler(the dude before me chucked the stock muffler)
Im from India and dude the traffic in the cities are insanely frustrating, super chaotic! Then there are mountain area with narrow and twisty roads.
The starter/beginner bikes are all the 125-250cc which range from 10-30hp. The 400cc with around 40hp are considered to be great, almost like intermediate level. Somewhere in between beginner and intermediate, closer to being intermediate.
Whatever man, Z900 is still one of the best package.
This segment is full of jewels, so many good options... but once you tried the KTM there are not room for doubts, the fun factor - big smile on the face - that produce the Duke is above all others in this category. Orange love 🧡 !!!
Tried the KTM this summer. It's nice, light and flickable. But it felt like a cheaper street triple minus the fantastic engine note to me. Has better handling though, i'll give it that.
@@andeez_nutz I use the bike to commute through out 30 km of mountain twisty roads and just a few kms of urban traffic, the 890 Duke higher torque at low rpms makes a difference compared to the Street Triple. Even thought, the sound of the three cylinder engine makes the Triumph an ear candy!
How are 900cc and 1200cc bikes called middleweight? Do you actually mean weight, which is a weird parametric to classify bikes in. Like you already pervy call bikes 'naked'. Tourers, racing, etc. Now are we supposed to classify bikes under weight class? Yeah no thanks .. mate.
To me the 900cc and 1200cc in this video are high end, but not super-bikes or hyper-bikes. What more classifications do you need?
Mid-sized (engine sized) bikes to me are 500cc to 750cc. Although some 7500cc bikes are proper high end bikes.
Then again what's the point of asking, since you're too rich to talk to your audience?
MV Agusta Burutale, Dragster & F3.
Bit expensive, but fun, beauty and more power.
I traded my Aprilia Tuono in for a Triumph moto2 and MY GOD! What an upgrade!
You like the moto 2 over a tuono 1100 v4 factory?
My son is talking about selling his too and buying the rs Street triple.
In which ways does it feel an upgrade. I'm on fence between the two. Thanks!
How is a 1200 a middleweight??? When I started my riding career, some 40 plus years ago, a litre-bike was considered huge, and a middleweight would have been something like a 500cc. I am perplexed at the rate at which the goal posts are being moved.
How is the Kawasaki Z900 ugly?
I’m so confused
Put a deposit down on a 2018 Street Triple RS. Test rode it on Saturday, and i fell completely in love, and will be a perfect upgrade from my now totaled Z400.
I have had my 21 Street Triple RS for 2 months now it is an amazing bike I got it with 1000 miles for $7500. I upgraded from a 23 z400. Enjoy it, Man.
Just got my 2018 RS 2 weeks ago. Maybe it's 2019 model for you guys in the states. Anyway, I test rode the newest model RS first (love love the looks of it). But found a fantastic deal for this 2018 model. The money savings and basically 90+% of the performance of the latest model sealed the deal. WHAT A BIKE. I'm coming from an Benelli Leoncino 500. Enjoy it when you get yours!
Upgraded from an sv650 to 2018 765rs too, prefer the less aggressive seat, save the balls being crushed as often 😂😂
@@robertr8413have you had any issues with it ?
How does a 756cc beat a 899cc inline 4 z900?
The fact tou said the z900 is ugly prives how wrong you are 🤔 z900SE is a sapper of a bike, 4 cylinder beauty
Love the z900rs
cb650r ?
I consider my z650rs as middleweight. But Im sure zx4r will be wild, inline fours are just so much more exciting
Triumh 1200 midle weight😂😂what have YOU smoked🤣
Talk about the suzuki katana
The z900 looks 10x better than the mt09
Which would be better between MT09 and street triple 765 ?
came here to clarify what to buy, more undecided than before :)))
Triumph is too ugly, KTM is too unreliable, Yamaha is just right.
Did nobody tell Yammie for the smashmouth clip in the intro that the years did in fact stop coming? RIP Steve Harwell
It is a shame Street triple looks like a bug. It’s so ugly I wouldn’t buy it.
"anything less than 100hp is a beginner bike"... a true Noob statement
I think anywhere from 500-750 is mid weight
Calling 100-150bhp middlweight. Murriicccaaaaa
Damn, this came out later. I’m already getting a CFMOTO 650NK but new ideas added for the next
The engine is copied from kawasaki's 650.. good beginner bike I would say
papa yams, I'm selling my 2023 rebel 500 abs se and my 2023 ninja 650 in order to get a 2023 hya-frickin-busa, and I WILL be turboing it in the future, don't worry
Hey I wouldn’t get that for the price get a zx10 or gixxer 1000r or s1k bmw . One it’s a heavy beast. Two price there are all competing in price. But do you , but be safe and have fun
@@mrwick4875 I want the busa
Zx6r 🤏🕶🤨 where the fuck im I in these list
Sorry Yammie Noob but the Ducati Monster is still a V-twin and not it a true a 90 degrees from 0 degrees nor dose it resemble a L shape one of the cylinders and head would have to be considerably shorter in over all length about the half and that pretty much the end of the story.
I wonder where the new XSR 900 GP will fall on this list.
I watched a commercial for you yammie..
Hopefully the other 53K viewers did as well?
RUclipss just becoming such a clunk-fest in how it works... its well kinda not worth it anymore you know, just trying to watch vids?
Also even though I'm a subscriber, I haven't seen any vid recommendations from you-tube for you in a long ass time..
So…. How are these bikes for noobs? I’m a responsible person with a mature age and I want to start riding. Seems like a headache to get a 400cc +/- size bike only to have to sell it later, then buy a larger bike (capable of sustained highway speeds/distance is the goal). I’m really leaning towards the TKM, possibly the MT-09, as a first bike. That means testing and learning. Last time I road a bike solo was eighth grade… DECADES ago, literally. Everyone I know has a bike, even my girlfriend, Honda Shadow Phantom brand new off the floor.
Sorry but anything over 750cc (I know you can’t really buy a 750!) isn’t a middleweight. Liter bikes are liter bikes.
Agree with Yammie on the choices. I bought a bike this year and my short list was : RS660, Street Triple, Duke 890R.
Aprilia engines bleed metal shavings into the oil. Not a quality crafting.
so the speed twin 1200 is basically 13k, the street triple R is 10k.....so which is better bang for buck then? i won't be doing any track days, Love the aesthetics of the Trident, but want little more kick in the rear, the Daytona 660 engine in the trident would really have me interested...ALOT....but, that isn't an option, so, the R is 3k cheaper, but i would imagine the twin is more suited for daily cruising? but how much more suited? is it better than the R to the degree that its worth the 3k price difference? or is it more nominal where you are better off saving the coin cause the R is maybe better in corners or something. which has more range for weekend day trips with my old duffer harley homies? i know the twin would fit in little better with the cruisers, but more important i don't want to be "that guy" who always is low on gas when everyone else has half a tank.
Weird Joseph Goebbels cameo at 15:18…
There's not a motorcycle in that group that I would be interested in buying. For street use they're too big, too fast, too expensive, and with two exceptions, too European. The Aprillia isn't too big, but it's too aggressive, and worse than European, it's Italian.
Triumph❤ Speed Twin for me
in this class 🤔i dont know i prefer more torq down low with less topend power for dailyriding 😉👌🏻for me allthose bikes sucks 🤷🏻♂️except speed twin 👍🏻i would take it from this group 😎👌🏻only issue which im seen for me taste is 💩 gearbox with 6 gears 🤮and lil to much weight 👉🏻 220 kg however 112 nm at 4250 rpm compensate this be alot 👌🏻 and seat looks not enough befee and not enough comfortable beside this 👍🏻 at least in terms of engine characteristic overall construction dont onow how internal construction of engine most likely dont have goat driving gears instead stupyt chain and valve on glass most likely 🤮🫣 but yea overall defenitely take it from this group cos of best engine characteristic for daily riding 👍🏻 you ask what is ideal power level for road aplication it always depend on somebodys needs for me its 60 hp 👌🏻sweet spot for 200 kg naked bike 75 nm at 4 k rpm 60 hp at 7 k rpm from 750 inline 2 270 degrees on drivewheel and screw valve +5 gears not 6 😎👌🏻 comfoy ergo , suspension breaks frame tires perfect so like always usd45 /14- c/13 320 /4 p 260 /1 p strong stable frame tire 120-160/17 5 100 km/h 4000 rpm 90% torq at 2000 rpm 👍🏻so low rev strong lowend good elasticity + very weak topend performance atleast in regard to bike which you show in this video thats me type bike for normal daily riding commuting toruing whatever defeintely not r6 characteristic with huge rpm huge topend power with weak lowend 🤮😎👌🏻but you already know me version i quees 😉.closest from this what is available be nc750 except 💩 geometry to much gears and overall its adv not me type bike 👌🏻 +to heavy the same as speedtwin 🤮
Z900 is ugly😑 yammie has no taste
Yammie including kawasaki is like 🤯🤯🤯🤯
R9 coming at eicma !
The Monster IS a V-Twin !.
I’ve only had a Ducati Monster 1200R. I’m very happy with it. Feeling curious about getting a new bike, not sure what I should go for. BMW, Streetfighter, SuperDuke, MT10 or just move to a streetbike? I just commute in the city and hit the hills on the weekends.
S1000r its a better comuter and more comfortable ✊🔥and never brokes down🤙
New meaning of beginner bike as described in The Squid's Guide In Choosing A Motorcycle.
No mention of the KTM Duke 990? Also the MT09SP is not the 2024 model. The facelift isn't featured. Also the XSR900 is akin to the MT09SP.
Would you be able to do a review comparing the pros and cons of what would be a better race bike build. 2020 765 moto2 or a 2023 765 rs? engine and geometry comparison
Z900 is the best looking bike.
Uh Oh Yam,,, Made the Video too early,,,,The best looking bike of 2024 is the XSR900 GP,,,, bike has some serious wood inducing beauty.
as an irish person any bike from 300-500 id say is middleweight and anything above that is heavyish weight. then 1kcc+ is just unnecessarily overweight bikes
I love my XSR900. Best bike in the category for me and with the extended swing arm from the tracer 9 it's way less unruly than the mt09.
The Ducati Monster was the first baked bike I ever laid eyes on back in the mid 2000’s, and I fell in love with it. Still one of the most gorgeous bikes out there in my opinion
I have a 1000cc but with a 150hp. I don’t where my bike is classified now 😂😂 0:46
kidding. love your content
I'm surprised the 2024 zx6r redesign didn't even get a mention in the fully faired section
My shit-tier 75 HP SV650 on suicide watch. Even the GSX-8S is only 82hp
Is the Aprilia a naked tho...? Kinda like a lady with their shirt still on. XSR900 tho 💅
What about super motos?
As a 2010 Ducati Monster owner I can see why Ducati made the current Monster the way they did, but it's still blasphemous
You forget best middleweight aka MV Agusta Brutale 800RR
Monster 939 are not midle weight😂 and are not real monster🤪old monster s4rs, looks a lot better✊🔥
Are there practical reasons to learn to wheelie (other than it's fun?). Serious question, thanks
Countries with progressive licencing disagree with your 100 hrsprs opinion
2023 XSR900 here.. Dunno, hard to beat the newer Yammer 9 triples what a package. got mine for $10.3K. Get it tuned with a long tube header exhaust, upgrade the front pads, maybe the -1, +2 sprocket change if you like competitive racing 2nd tier liter bikes to 120 and don't like loosing ALL the time. Living the life. Suspension is good! learn to adjust it. 420 Lbs. is worth a few pony's for this beauty it's the Big Block Torque/pull at low RPM you want. Most of the time, you never finish out the wind up. The Z900 would be my 2nd choice, not a big fan of the formidable Thumper twins. Back in the day, the Air Cooled 4 cylinder Honda 750's were Wide! The 6 cylinder was Silly! The 3 cylinder H2 only had 3 cylinders (but still air cooled), was about as wide as a bike could be without dragging the alternator cover. Now with water cooling, even a 4 cylinder is fine. your mileage may vary.. whatever you pick, the quick shifter is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED (worth at Least 0.5 sec in the quarter), and get the ABS as a requirement. You can always turn it off.
Insurance gets pricey at some point.. Seems they might go by CC.. and specifically ask about Turbo/Super charging!! The Yammer 9 is Not cheap insurance, they seem to be jacking rates as a rule these days.
Haha it’s my bike! (Red triumph STRS 24) my first bike….
the only thing I don't like about the street triple is the exhaust sounds terrible and exhaust mods are illegal here😔
No Hornet 750??? Strongly disaggree... Pretty solid bike
Selling my 6,500 mile, '19 Duke, anyone interested? 😭
for retro lovers like me, A ducatu nightshift is all i need, not that i cannot buy one but other commitments have priority, so happy with hunter that is one sixth of the price of that ducati but almost 80 percent fun due to very challenging indian city conditions
In no reasonable estimation is a 900cc bike a middleweight.
Duke 890 in 2024??
No BMW F900, best bike is slept on ONCE AGAIN
No gsxr 750 on the list? Boo! Love that bike. Lol
ZX6R isn’t a middleweight anymore?
Looooooove my 2024 Street Triple R!
Beautiful bike. I’m quite in love with the carnival red one.
Yamy got dunked by Yamy - the new MT09 beats all that.
I think anything under 100hp with less than 70nm torque is good beginner bike (if ergonomics are what you want) and should not been considered as middle weight. And I'm from Europe. :)
ZX1400r, H2, Panigale, S1000RR and fireblade... all great beginners bike... I'm also from Europe.
What is your problem with the Ninja 650?
Well he did say that “In 2024 anything less than 100hp is just a beginner bike” so there’s your answer right there. Numbers aside, I rode a ninja 650 and it is noticeably weaker than the bikes he’s putting forward. Even the RS, with its 660cc, has 32 more horsepower and in fairness that does kinda put it into another category. IMO there ought to be ‘small mid’ and ‘large mid’.. 1000ps for example divides the middle class in that way.
Finally a photo of a bike that I own. I don't feel poor anymore.
They all look great. Was I only 30 yrs. younger.....