What i have discovered about bikes is that it doesn’t really matter if it’s the best of the best…. As long as it fits your needs and you like it then it’s good….
I have my 2020 Z H2, Chris Moore flash, P08 air filter and full brocks penta carbon. Puts down around 220 hp at the wheel and around 103 ft/lbs of torque. Had a chance to buy my brother 2020 Streetfighter V4. I can say 100% in every aspect the Ducati is a superior bike. Weight...feels like a 400, handling...telepathic, quick shifter even without a BT flash silky smooth. Power and power delivery are the only area's it loses. Looks above and beyond my Z.....but as Yammie stated....my Z has yet to not make me giggle like a school girl every time I get on it. Power...blows the Streetfighter away no competition. As weird as it is to say the Streetfighter to me was actually boring to ride and to get any power out of it you really have to ring that motor out into the upper revs. After riding them back to back there was 0 question for me that I was keeping my Z. When that S.O.B. powers the front wheel up at 130+ as easy as a 1000cc sport bike does in first....that's when you know, like Nintendo, Now you're playing with power.
@SirTyron the duke should have been top 3. But it's no secret yammie has a huge distaste for ktm. He had literally not one good reason to hate on it lol
@@SirTyron oh yeah id agree but we know there are some days as a rider your more excited that’s when you notice it more 😌all killer bikes just different power transfer
The sarcasm is real with this one. Although... hmm. What would a hypernaked Goldwing look like? Just keep Honda away from the English. (No bug-eyed monstrosity please)
Got a 2023 CB1000R Black Edition. It really is a beautiful machine. For a few extra grand, you can make this thing a kick ass canyon bike - Ohlins shock and cartridges, exhaust with an ECU tune/flash and a set of Pirelli Rosso IV Corsas and send it 🤙🏻
I know someone who is buying a M1000R. It's his third bike, he also has a 120hp Dyna, and a rigid frame Shovelhead chopper. I think I probably influenced his decision when I bought my S1000XR, and his Dyna couldn't keep up.
I had a '15 s1kr and loved that thing. Couple years ago replaced it with a '22 SFv4s and just never clicked with it the same way. It was badass and sexy but i just didnt love it. Bought a '23 s1kr again and love it. Whatever it is... it just suits me
Gotta say that I love my Ducati Streetfighter V4. You can definitely daily that bike. Fast, but rides perfectly in slow traffic too. Couldn’t be happier.
@@josephmendozajr8993 it hasn’t been a problem for me so far. On hot summer days last season, the heat was noticeable in stop and go traffic on my rear end, but nothing crazy.
I bought a Kawasaki turbo 750 back in the 80s. For the times, it was one of the fastest production bikes with about 100hp, IIRC? In comparison, the Z H2 feels terrifying, even on RUclips. lol
Agree with the Kawasaki. I also like the Suzuki and probably being biased due to having a 2019 GSX-S 750 Also love the Yamaha MY-10. Never road the Triumph but I do love those Triples. As for the Duke, I had one for less than a year, the orange never grew on me and it ran great as long as it wasn’t in the shop. 🏍️
@@andreweggett1969 I bought mine in 2019, white with blue rims. I always liked 600 - 750cc bikes. I am 6’6” but I’m not heavy 178-180 pounds, 59 years old and love sport bikes. 4 years with this bike and zero issues. You can’t really go wrong with the Japanese 4 Kawasaki, Honda, Yamaha & Suzuki.
@troythevis4456 I'm happy to report I'm going to pick up my brand new 23' gsx-s 750 this morning & I'm incredibly excited. It's going to be a hell of an upgrade from my 06' shadow 750, thank you for helping with the choice!
Great discussion! I don’t know whether i would’ve come up with the exact same list but I was nodding my head to everything you said. Thanks for fun videos grounded in reality!
Spot on Yam, ZH2. A few cheap mods and a reflash. You have mind blowing reliable great road bike and I swear you will get thrown out of a track day for doing 5 gear wheelies.
I took the Brutale 1000 out for a weekend and that bike is absolutely incredible. Love me a Tuono V4 Factory, but the Brutale is another level. Not worth the price difference though.
At 30k+ for "the good one" and getting no cruise control, it's hard for me to consider the SFV4 a better "daily" road bike than anything below it that does have cruise. TUONO TIL I DIE BABYYYYY
@Yammie Noob how you got the MV at number 10 because of it's price when the base model RS which has the same motor, brakes, suspension as the RR and comes in cheaper then the base model street fighter V4S? Just curious is all, you should compare base models to base models if you are going off prices.
I had a 1st gen ktm 1290. Totaled it after ten days but omg that thing was great. Got a 2001 sv650 and paid off my college loans instead, but I will be getting another 1290 in a couple years. I was perfect for cruising and hooning at the same time. Highly recommend. And I heard the second, third, and fourth gens are all leaps and bounds better than the first gen. I just liked the looks of the first gen best.
Can confirm about the tuono V4 lol but it's everything I love in a motorcycle. I don't see myself wanting another any time soon. Things too darn fun!. Great video!
@@siegfriedz8211 I have a 2017 Tuono V4 RR and im currently at 20k miles without a single issue, I honestly dont see the issue people are having with the bike
@@dj8six a single experience does not represent the reliability of a brand ;) For example, i've got a 2023 Tuono factory and in a single year (4000km), i had issue with oil leak, abs and gearbox... + the customer service was poor at my dealership. But you have to look at Whats the experience of most people.. in France on the official Tuono v4 group you have a few post with issues each week.. Even the Guy from the workshop at my dealership told me the sav of aprilia is awful and the bikes always have issues here and there (aprilia, guzzi, Vespa, piaggio, gilera..all). It is a big ship where you also have Ktm, suzuki, ducati, royal enfield, cf moto and bmw and he just told me Aprilia was the less reliable of all.. followed by ktm. Suzuki being the best by far (of course). Maybe that can explain why the sold not much motorcycles while they are really cool ones ^^
@@dj8six Loads of people don't have issues, and that's great. All bikes can break, all dealer networks can have a bad apple. I heard horror stories with Aprilia right around the time I was looking for my next bike. I was fixin for the 2023 Tuono, but a friend had a brand new RSV4 with an oil leak, dealer made him pay for the fix, and that was a bitch of a wait. In the meantime they also screwed something up on the bike (swingarm IIRC). He said enough and gave the bike back to them for refund and they had the gall to charge him a huge 'restocking' fee. So I said no way.
Need to review the new 1390 super duke. By all accounts it has a more refined feel compared to previous gen, like you mentioned. Z H2 best bike I've ever owned. Wasn't ready for it. Might get another one in a few years with more experience under my belt, and if there is a refresh.
I recently got the privilege of riding the Streetfighter V4S at a demo day and I freaking loved it. Super comfortable and fast AF. Only con is that insane price tag for the bike + maintenance. I'm currently saving my pennies for a ZH2 though
I own a V4S. Love the bike. Rode the M1000R in a demo before deciding. HATED it. Heavy in the front end. Gutless down low, utterly characterless. Vibrates your hands and ankles to the point of needing joint replacement. And trans was so stiff you basically have to wear a boot. Not riding shoes like my Astar ride knits. My foot hurt with those. We bought the misses a Speed Triple RS. Absolutely brilliant bike. For me it's SF V4, Speed Triple, Tuono, Super Duke, MT10. The H2 is cool as hell and fun but for me it felt like a one trick pony. Most of my riding is country road carving and track. So it just doesn't fit the bill for me. The Z900 though? Incredible bike for the money.
If you get one of those bikes, I would go by emoting. No1 for me - MT10, the noise m m m m, I put one in my garage, not to drive it, just to use it as musical instrument. No2 for me - Tuono. What a rocket for money and sounds great. No3 for me - Triumph, mean, sounds great, and its affordable. Ducs - yeah nice bikes, but they have a bad service record and for the price I can get two MT10 - almost. The KTM, lots of grunt and power, have you ever worked on one? Service costs are high just like Ducs. Everyone likes the BMW but does not win the emotions contest, agree with you Yam. Suzuki - if you’re looking for a bargain with a solid tried and true engine that will last you forever, next to the MT10, that would be it. MV - it’s a collectors bike. You buy one to show off, to put it into your living room in a glass case, it’s like owning a Da’Vinci - it a piece of beauty, dare not scratch it. But in general for all of them - if you never taken a track class, or a class period, if you don’t know how to ride, then it won’t matter. Buy a Bicycle, you’re better off.
I own a 2021 Panigale V4s and a 2022 ZH2 SE. I love them both, but the ZH2 is definitely my favorite of the two. I've put 18k miles on it since I bought it new, but I've only put 6300 miles on the ducati. I got the H2s ecu tuned last year, and the power gains make it an absolute demon. Is it ugly? To some sure, but I stay comfortable on the seat even during multi-hour rides, can absolutely annihilate supersports at the twist of my wrist, it's not terrible in the corners and above all, that supercharger flutter is always a head turner.
i thank it's funny people buying/riding bikes with 100+ hp you don't need it can't use so why wast $$$ a good 600/1000cc will get you locked up/killed even on the track it's all over kill !! i have 8 used bikes that cost what the bmw cost .. spend my cash on better stuff .... just how i see things be happy you have a bike in joy it and be safe out hear !
I have a white m1000r, it is a lot cheaper than the black version (cause black is all carbon + carbon wheels) but it is fully packed (stock) and has an adjustable camshaft and all electronic helpers you could wish for.
You anticipated my gripe: there is no defense to ranking the Streetfighter 2nd and the M1000R 7th. I can't argue with your first choice, but I can't ride it, either, without damaging my neck.
As someone who has ridden both street fighters, it just feels more special, and it has a nice character. The M1000r just feels bland, and the way it nannies you, it doesn't feel as pounchy or fast as other 200-hp nakeds. On paper, it is a great bike, but I fully understand why it's so low on the list, and Street Fighter 2nd in my option, Street Fighter v4, is literally the best motorcycle currently available; it does anything and lacks nothing.
“the way it nannies you”…not following this. Like any high-tech bike, if you don’t want the rider aids, you can turn them off. Could you please clarify?
@@JackPanitch-hy1ws It's not about the rider's aids but how they function. A street fighter has the same rider's aids, if not better, but the bike doesn't feel as bland and castrated; even if you switch them off, you cannot change the power delivery or fueling. The new BMW sports bikes feel to me like they always second-guess your choices and never trust you. The Ducati bikes feel like they have a telepathic connection with you, and the bike always does the things you do and trusts your choices. For this reason, I never connected to my 2019 S1000RR and sold it after 2 months of ownership. It was so disappointing since I really loved the 2014 S1000RR I had.
@@Fearless154 Trust is a two-way street, except neither machine is sentient. I remember standing outside the Suzuki dealership, nervous, getting ready to ride a new GSX1000S home. There was an older guy standing around admiring the new bike, watching me gear up, and I told him I had never ridden this type of motorcycle before. His response was a big smile and the reassurance that it was just like any other motorcycle: the bike wouldn’t do anything I didn’t tell it to do. I tell myself there’s no magic except what we make through the poetry of riding. I just got to know how the bike reacts to my commands and make ever so small adjustments. Thank you for clarifying.
Ya know i'm hopefully about to buy a hyper naked. Something to replace the FZ1. Even though there's nothing wrong with the FZ. I was going to go MT-10, cause i've been a Yamaha boy these last 5 years. But you do make a good argument for the ZH2...
I own a M1000R, for $21,300 for the non competition is a great value for the performance. I may look for a used M set of rear sets or nice set of aftermarket rear sets. Then it'll be perfect.
I’ve pondered over the KTM, Ducati and Kawasaki for a while now and it’s hard to not keep looking back to the ZH2. The ZH2 seems like such an audible and visceral experience and being a little on the ridiculous side is the whole point of hyper nekkeds.
Ranks hypernaked bikes and proceeds to rank a bike low because it's a powerful torquey bike. Then ranks a bike he deems not the greatest for track or street use, No1 overall. Makes total sense. I'm betting they put bikes on a dart board to decide what place to put them in the video.
ive had mt10, duke1290, and stv4s... The streetfighter is hands down the better bike. is the price tag worth it? maybeeeee not. in my opinion if youre only using it to ride on the street just pick ur favorite engine sound and color.... Youll never touch all they got on the street or track.
Lol good this is your list 🙈😊 the heavy straight way rocket ship wins the test? Well I understand the roads in USA is straight. But in Europe the z h2 is down on the list. I have ridden all 6 bikes on your top 10 list (from 6 to 1) and for me the list would be in total different order 😊 but nothing wrong with a different opinion 👍😊
As a Ducatista of course I don’t feel the ZH2 is in the same category, let alone in number one!! However when you factor in the price I can’t make no argument!! For me the bmw is really good in this category, having ridden one, it’s chief’s kiss👌better than the streets fighter on being a normal rider!!as I’ve mentioned before in your comments I own a Panigale V4s and for me if I want that performance I want aggressive riding position with fairings!! But with bmw I’d take the single R over the double RR! The single R just feel better with that power output!!
My real grievance with the Ducati versus the Aprilia was the electronics. And no fuel gauge? I mean come on! That’s just ridiculous. Aprilia’s electronics are just top notch and at such a price point. Though I think the Ducati looks better, I picked the Tuono V4 and I don’t regret it. So much fun! Yes, it does get a little sour waiting too long at stops and slow traffic. But man oh man! When you roll on that throttle and make it go, it’s just ridiculously satisfying.
Good ranking, but its personal like he said, if i wanted a hyper naked i think i went for the Kawa to, but my stif 59 year old 6.5 ass is no longer suitable for this type of bikes 😩
I get what your saying about if ppl buy bmw bikes for clout on IG . Don't let me have one ill forget to posy because I'm riding tf out of one . There's a difference between ppl who flex and ppl who actually ride and or drive something made to go fast .
SOUNDS like you maybe didn't actually ride a not-even-out -yet 1390 Superduke? Sorry if I misinterpreted. I'd like to know where you found one--I want to ride it after owning the V.1 and V.2.
Respectable list. A) Good to see you can critique your picks. Every bike has pros and cons. B) Triumph speed triple: Maybe a great bike, but the headlights.. just NO!!! No, no, no... Part of owning a bike is the look-back appeal (without losing your lunch). C) I think the H2 is an awesome motorcycle, but... I would not own one. There has to be a balance of power and lean for a good ride. H2 has all the power, but leaning it into a curve? Seems like work with all the top-heavy weight.
To be fair, the V4 ducatis cost half as much to check and adjust valves as the old (or even new) V2s. You also only have to do it every 15k miles now so.. not too bad. ~4 hours labor isn’t a giant reason to not buy one.
What's the best bike for casual day-ride type stuff 2-up? I don't need lots of power, and don't want an enormous Goldwing type bike, I just tote the wife around.
13:50 lol! you can take yammie off the turbo busa but you can't take the turbo busa out of yammie if only they made naked turbo busas, a trailer park boy can dream.
The only thing that has kept me off of the ZH2 is the looks. I know they never will but I just wish they’d make it in a solid color instead of this black with highlights thing they have going on.
I love everything about the KTM including the looks but damn that’s a LOT of money for something unreliable. I want to ride every day without worrying about breakdowns
Can someone help me out I ride a r3 and I need tank grips but problem is my legs are not close enough to tank cutouts ( their right below them) I’m 5”9 and can’t figure it out 😂
I will admit, I was pleasantly surprised when Yammie announced a Kawasaki as #1, I was thinking throughout the clip.. Why haven't you mentioned a Kawasaki yet 😅
I think the MVAgusta is beautiful, but that price is insane. I like the GSXs, don't like that Honda. BMW, no thanks, its pretty, but too much money. I don't trust the reliability, like their cars. Too she-she. I don't like the KTM look either. Aprilia is pretty, not enough dealer support. The Triumph headlight, ugh...I can't look at it too long. I love the MT-10, the looks, the way they run, everything. Love it! A man's bike! Sorry, I don't like the new Streetfighter's looks. I love the last gen though, the VTwin. TOO MUCH MONEY! Not worth the money. I love the KAW. I am prejudice. Although the reliability of a supercharged engine is sketchy, I have faith in Kawasaki. I would just change the engine oil every 700-800 miles, for sure. I know you mentioned, money is no object. I feel that money IS always an object, even if I were "Bazos-wealthy". For me, its a toss-up on the KAW H2 naked or the YAM MT-10. Both are wonderfully over-kill, but worthy of my love. Both are a punch in the nuts naked-bikes!
I have to get the valves done on my Streetfighter V4S this summer 😢 and it ain't cheap. I'd still rather have the Ducati over the Kawasaki any day, the Kawasaki is too heavy.
Yammie: “stipulation, money is no object”
Also Yammie: “this bike is at the bottom of the list because it costs $33,000”
Also « clips on blabla » ok then brutale 1000 rs…. Its more comfy while keeping everything else…. And cost 25k xD
@@thomasbouvier3203 It's not that comfy btw and lost the ohlins + no carbon and bad color scheme
@@siegfriedz8211 well i test rode it and it wasn’t that bad… it was between brutale 800rr and monster 937 in position…
@@thomasbouvier3203 how does it perform?
@@ciaobelo6838 well it was a test drive for 40min…. And at that time i was more impressed than anything else and i was extra extra carefull
What i have discovered about bikes is that it doesn’t really matter if it’s the best of the best…. As long as it fits your needs and you like it then it’s good….
I couldn't agree more!
Picked up a used 2022 Suzuki GSX-S1000 a few weeks ago, it's good at what it does, looks cool, and the value can't be beat. Enough said.
Just got a Z H2 a couple of weeks ago. Love it!!
amazing can you make a video of your review
I have my 2020 Z H2, Chris Moore flash, P08 air filter and full brocks penta carbon. Puts down around 220 hp at the wheel and around 103 ft/lbs of torque. Had a chance to buy my brother 2020 Streetfighter V4. I can say 100% in every aspect the Ducati is a superior bike. Weight...feels like a 400, handling...telepathic, quick shifter even without a BT flash silky smooth. Power and power delivery are the only area's it loses. Looks above and beyond my Z.....but as Yammie stated....my Z has yet to not make me giggle like a school girl every time I get on it. Power...blows the Streetfighter away no competition. As weird as it is to say the Streetfighter to me was actually boring to ride and to get any power out of it you really have to ring that motor out into the upper revs. After riding them back to back there was 0 question for me that I was keeping my Z. When that S.O.B. powers the front wheel up at 130+ as easy as a 1000cc sport bike does in first....that's when you know, like Nintendo, Now you're playing with power.
The operative word in this dissertation is Nintendo .LMAO.
The KTM disrespect!!!!
sir we do not question the lord and savior super duke
Agreed, I have one and I was hoping it would've gotten higher. But his arguments made sense.
@SirTyron the duke should have been top 3. But it's no secret yammie has a huge distaste for ktm. He had literally not one good reason to hate on it lol
Super dukes jerky & lucky to get this far 😢 no it’s cool bike but nothing on Ducati V4
Granted, the V4 is a good bike. But a smooth rider irons out the jerks.😉
@@SirTyron oh yeah id agree but we know there are some days as a rider your more excited that’s when you notice it more 😌all killer bikes just different power transfer
What! No GoldWing?
Hypernaked, not HyperRobeAndSlippers.
The sarcasm is real with this one. Although... hmm. What would a hypernaked Goldwing look like? Just keep Honda away from the English. (No bug-eyed monstrosity please)
JUST GOT A 2021 Z900 W 2100 MILES ON IT FOR 7998 LIFE IS GOOD!
AND ITS MY 3RD BIKE SORRY FOR ALL CAPS NOT TURNIN CAPS LOCK OFF FOR YT COMMENTS!!
@@SAINTCOOKS Have fun bro z900 is great!
I tune in for every upload tbh and its great. Just like the Haya-Fricking-busa
I have a 2020 zh2...
Mine is tuned and intercooled.
You think it's fast from the factory???
You have nooooo idea!
I owned a built e85 tuned H2 that I went 211 mph with at the tx mile - I know it lol
Had a ZH2 for a year and still get the same excitement. Spot on Yammie..
Got a 2023 CB1000R Black Edition. It really is a beautiful machine. For a few extra grand, you can make this thing a kick ass canyon bike - Ohlins shock and cartridges, exhaust with an ECU tune/flash and a set of Pirelli Rosso IV Corsas and send it 🤙🏻
The CB1000R is a high school sweetheart ,the Kawi is Bruce Jenner
I know someone who is buying a M1000R. It's his third bike, he also has a 120hp Dyna, and a rigid frame Shovelhead chopper. I think I probably influenced his decision when I bought my S1000XR, and his Dyna couldn't keep up.
The praise that the ZH2 gets made me get one for myself. Coming from an MT-10, I think this bike is incredible!
I had a '15 s1kr and loved that thing. Couple years ago replaced it with a '22 SFv4s and just never clicked with it the same way. It was badass and sexy but i just didnt love it. Bought a '23 s1kr again and love it. Whatever it is... it just suits me
Gotta say that I love my Ducati Streetfighter V4. You can definitely daily that bike. Fast, but rides perfectly in slow traffic too. Couldn’t be happier.
How’s the heat on that, seems to be the biggest complaint and I live in Fla
@@josephmendozajr8993 it hasn’t been a problem for me so far. On hot summer days last season, the heat was noticeable in stop and go traffic on my rear end, but nothing crazy.
@@OhioBladeandCutlery Gotya I have the v2 I’m 5’8 so it fit me more comfortably than v4 . I may have to revisit it :)
@@josephmendozajr8993 yeah I’m 5’7” and ended up lowering mine a little bit. Also got thick soled riding boots 😛
Got to say I love your content yammy was watching you for years and just got my 1st bike last week thanks for all the tips and tricks your a god sent
I bought a Kawasaki turbo 750 back in the 80s. For the times, it was one of the fastest production bikes with about 100hp, IIRC? In comparison, the Z H2 feels terrifying, even on RUclips. lol
The 1390 should have been number 1.
The concept of a XSR-1 Blew my mind
Agree with the Kawasaki. I also like the Suzuki and probably being biased due to having a 2019 GSX-S 750 Also love the Yamaha MY-10. Never road the Triumph but I do love those Triples. As for the Duke, I had one for less than a year, the orange never grew on me and it ran great as long as it wasn’t in the shop. 🏍️
How's the gsxs 750 handle highway speeds, like 80-90mph for longer periods of time? If you ride it like that.
@@andreweggett1969 handle 80 to 90 with no problems at all. Most of the time when I am on the highway that’s the speed I am going.
Thanks for the response. It's a very serious contender for my next bike & I'm really hoping to buy something this year.
@@andreweggett1969 I bought mine in 2019, white with blue rims. I always liked 600 - 750cc bikes. I am 6’6” but I’m not heavy 178-180 pounds, 59 years old and love sport bikes. 4 years with this bike and zero issues. You can’t really go wrong with the Japanese 4 Kawasaki, Honda, Yamaha & Suzuki.
@troythevis4456 I'm happy to report I'm going to pick up my brand new 23' gsx-s 750 this morning & I'm incredibly excited. It's going to be a hell of an upgrade from my 06' shadow 750, thank you for helping with the choice!
Great discussion! I don’t know whether i would’ve come up with the exact same list but I was nodding my head to everything you said. Thanks for fun videos grounded in reality!
Not gonna lie, I'll never look at a Tuono and categorize it as a naked bike. Get them damn fairings off of it!
For real
That is my biggest argument against the Tuono. The fairings and the headlight design, it's just tooooo much like an RSV4.
I have a base model M1000R, the white one. 22k out the door. You listed the price for the black competition package. I love this bike
Spot on Yam, ZH2.
A few cheap mods and a reflash. You have mind blowing reliable great road bike and I swear you will get thrown out of a track day for doing 5 gear wheelies.
Oh yeah, and "XSR-1" would be awesome! I have an XSR900
I took the Brutale 1000 out for a weekend and that bike is absolutely incredible. Love me a Tuono V4 Factory, but the Brutale is another level. Not worth the price difference though.
Someday until then I’m just loving my mt07
At 30k+ for "the good one" and getting no cruise control, it's hard for me to consider the SFV4 a better "daily" road bike than anything below it that does have cruise.
TUONO TIL I DIE BABYYYYY
@Yammie Noob how you got the MV at number 10 because of it's price when the base model RS which has the same motor, brakes, suspension as the RR and comes in cheaper then the base model street fighter V4S? Just curious is all, you should compare base models to base models if you are going off prices.
I had a 1st gen ktm 1290. Totaled it after ten days but omg that thing was great. Got a 2001 sv650 and paid off my college loans instead, but I will be getting another 1290 in a couple years. I was perfect for cruising and hooning at the same time. Highly recommend. And I heard the second, third, and fourth gens are all leaps and bounds better than the first gen. I just liked the looks of the first gen best.
The Z H2 is a badass bike! I want one.
Can confirm about the tuono V4 lol but it's everything I love in a motorcycle. I don't see myself wanting another any time soon. Things too darn fun!. Great video!
Yammie going to hell ranking the Tuono #5. Top 3 easy.
for the bike itself yes.. but if you think globally for an owner, it can't be top 3. Bad dealers, slow warranty, bad reliability etc
@@siegfriedz8211 I have a 2017 Tuono V4 RR and im currently at 20k miles without a single issue, I honestly dont see the issue people are having with the bike
@@dj8six a single experience does not represent the reliability of a brand ;)
For example, i've got a 2023 Tuono factory and in a single year (4000km), i had issue with oil leak, abs and gearbox...
+ the customer service was poor at my dealership.
But you have to look at Whats the experience of most people.. in France on the official Tuono v4 group you have a few post with issues each week..
Even the Guy from the workshop at my dealership told me the sav of aprilia is awful and the bikes always have issues here and there (aprilia, guzzi, Vespa, piaggio, gilera..all).
It is a big ship where you also have Ktm, suzuki, ducati, royal enfield, cf moto and bmw and he just told me Aprilia was the less reliable of all.. followed by ktm.
Suzuki being the best by far (of course).
Maybe that can explain why the sold not much motorcycles while they are really cool ones ^^
@@dj8six Loads of people don't have issues, and that's great. All bikes can break, all dealer networks can have a bad apple. I heard horror stories with Aprilia right around the time I was looking for my next bike. I was fixin for the 2023 Tuono, but a friend had a brand new RSV4 with an oil leak, dealer made him pay for the fix, and that was a bitch of a wait. In the meantime they also screwed something up on the bike (swingarm IIRC). He said enough and gave the bike back to them for refund and they had the gall to charge him a huge 'restocking' fee. So I said no way.
Need to review the new 1390 super duke. By all accounts it has a more refined feel compared to previous gen, like you mentioned.
Z H2 best bike I've ever owned. Wasn't ready for it. Might get another one in a few years with more experience under my belt, and if there is a refresh.
I recently got the privilege of riding the Streetfighter V4S at a demo day and I freaking loved it. Super comfortable and fast AF. Only con is that insane price tag for the bike + maintenance. I'm currently saving my pennies for a ZH2 though
I own a V4S. Love the bike. Rode the M1000R in a demo before deciding. HATED it. Heavy in the front end. Gutless down low, utterly characterless. Vibrates your hands and ankles to the point of needing joint replacement. And trans was so stiff you basically have to wear a boot. Not riding shoes like my Astar ride knits. My foot hurt with those. We bought the misses a Speed Triple RS. Absolutely brilliant bike. For me it's SF V4, Speed Triple, Tuono, Super Duke, MT10. The H2 is cool as hell and fun but for me it felt like a one trick pony. Most of my riding is country road carving and track. So it just doesn't fit the bill for me. The Z900 though? Incredible bike for the money.
If you get one of those bikes, I would go by emoting.
No1 for me - MT10, the noise m m m m, I put one in my garage, not to drive it, just to use it as musical instrument.
No2 for me - Tuono. What a rocket for money and sounds great.
No3 for me - Triumph, mean, sounds great, and its affordable.
Ducs - yeah nice bikes, but they have a bad service record and for the price I can get two MT10 - almost.
The KTM, lots of grunt and power, have you ever worked on one? Service costs are high just like Ducs.
Everyone likes the BMW but does not win the emotions contest, agree with you Yam.
Suzuki - if you’re looking for a bargain with a solid tried and true engine that will last you forever, next to the MT10, that would be it.
MV - it’s a collectors bike. You buy one to show off, to put it into your living room in a glass case, it’s like owning a Da’Vinci - it a piece of beauty, dare not scratch it.
But in general for all of them - if you never taken a track class, or a class period, if you don’t know how to ride, then it won’t matter.
Buy a Bicycle, you’re better off.
I think ZH2 always gets overshadowed by the mighty H2. It's an anazing bike with a freaking supercharger on a naked bike and runs like a missile.
Why does the super duke have a V twin? It should have a V4
I own a 2021 Panigale V4s and a 2022 ZH2 SE. I love them both, but the ZH2 is definitely my favorite of the two. I've put 18k miles on it since I bought it new, but I've only put 6300 miles on the ducati. I got the H2s ecu tuned last year, and the power gains make it an absolute demon. Is it ugly? To some sure, but I stay comfortable on the seat even during multi-hour rides, can absolutely annihilate supersports at the twist of my wrist, it's not terrible in the corners and above all, that supercharger flutter is always a head turner.
The GSX 1000 holds its value surprisingly well. Right now, a local dealer has a used one for sale..2013 , with 9,871 miles - $10,499
i thank it's funny people buying/riding bikes with 100+ hp you don't need it can't use so why wast $$$ a good 600/1000cc will get you locked up/killed even on the track it's all over kill !! i have 8 used bikes that cost what the bmw cost .. spend my cash on better stuff .... just how i see things be happy you have a bike in joy it and be safe out hear !
I have a white m1000r, it is a lot cheaper than the black version (cause black is all carbon + carbon wheels) but it is fully packed (stock) and has an adjustable camshaft and all electronic helpers you could wish for.
Spot On' - I wanted the ZH2 until I drove the H2' SE-SX fer Touring
You anticipated my gripe: there is no defense to ranking the Streetfighter 2nd and the M1000R 7th. I can't argue with your first choice, but I can't ride it, either, without damaging my neck.
As someone who has ridden both street fighters, it just feels more special, and it has a nice character.
The M1000r just feels bland, and the way it nannies you, it doesn't feel as pounchy or fast as other 200-hp nakeds. On paper, it is a great bike, but I fully understand why it's so low on the list, and Street Fighter 2nd in my option, Street Fighter v4, is literally the best motorcycle currently available; it does anything and lacks nothing.
“the way it nannies you”…not following this. Like any high-tech bike, if you don’t want the rider aids, you can turn them off. Could you please clarify?
@@JackPanitch-hy1ws
It's not about the rider's aids but how they function. A street fighter has the same rider's aids, if not better, but the bike doesn't feel as bland and castrated; even if you switch them off, you cannot change the power delivery or fueling.
The new BMW sports bikes feel to me like they always second-guess your choices and never trust you. The Ducati bikes feel like they have a telepathic connection with you, and the bike always does the things you do and trusts your choices.
For this reason, I never connected to my 2019 S1000RR and sold it after 2 months of ownership. It was so disappointing since I really loved the 2014 S1000RR I had.
@@Fearless154 Trust is a two-way street, except neither machine is sentient. I remember standing outside the Suzuki dealership, nervous, getting ready to ride a new GSX1000S home. There was an older guy standing around admiring the new bike, watching me gear up, and I told him I had never ridden this type of motorcycle before. His response was a big smile and the reassurance that it was just like any other motorcycle: the bike wouldn’t do anything I didn’t tell it to do. I tell myself there’s no magic except what we make through the poetry of riding. I just got to know how the bike reacts to my commands and make ever so small adjustments. Thank you for clarifying.
Ya know i'm hopefully about to buy a hyper naked. Something to replace the FZ1. Even though there's nothing wrong with the FZ. I was going to go MT-10, cause i've been a Yamaha boy these last 5 years. But you do make a good argument for the ZH2...
My daily bike is a 23 MY-10 that’s badass in my mind that’s number 1 because the only ones you picked over it are a street fighter V4s and the ZH2
I own a M1000R, for $21,300 for the non competition is a great value for the performance. I may look for a used M set of rear sets or nice set of aftermarket rear sets. Then it'll be perfect.
What about! Triumph speed triple 765rs ?? That’s a very bad ass bike! Looking to someday get one!
I’ve pondered over the KTM, Ducati and Kawasaki for a while now and it’s hard to not keep looking back to the ZH2. The ZH2 seems like such an audible and visceral experience and being a little on the ridiculous side is the whole point of hyper nekkeds.
Ranks hypernaked bikes and proceeds to rank a bike low because it's a powerful torquey bike. Then ranks a bike he deems not the greatest for track or street use, No1 overall. Makes total sense. I'm betting they put bikes on a dart board to decide what place to put them in the video.
😂
he did say it was a subjective ranking but i get your point
Or they are sponsored
Your bike did not make it, sorry.
ktm wont let you hit bro
Yammie is the reason I bought a z h2. He's not wrong.
ive had mt10, duke1290, and stv4s... The streetfighter is hands down the better bike. is the price tag worth it? maybeeeee not. in my opinion if youre only using it to ride on the street just pick ur favorite engine sound and color.... Youll never touch all they got on the street or track.
Yammie Noob 4 president, Bikes 4 all!
LOVE THESE KIND OF VIDEOS YAM . KEEP MAKING GEMS LIKE THIS ONE
Been watching for a few years and I’m surprised he hasn’t added a Zh2 in the stable
Lol good this is your list 🙈😊 the heavy straight way rocket ship wins the test? Well I understand the roads in USA is straight. But in Europe the z h2 is down on the list. I have ridden all 6 bikes on your top 10 list (from 6 to 1) and for me the list would be in total different order 😊 but nothing wrong with a different opinion 👍😊
As a Ducatista of course I don’t feel the ZH2 is in the same category, let alone in number one!! However when you factor in the price I can’t make no argument!!
For me the bmw is really good in this category, having ridden one, it’s chief’s kiss👌better than the streets fighter on being a normal rider!!as I’ve mentioned before in your comments I own a Panigale V4s and for me if I want that performance I want aggressive riding position with fairings!! But with bmw I’d take the single R over the double RR! The single R just feel better with that power output!!
No MT-09?? I rank it better than the MT-10 personally
Love this segment
No one is always new superduke ...
No two is Z H2 .... !
No 3 is Aprilia tuono !
My real grievance with the Ducati versus the Aprilia was the electronics. And no fuel gauge? I mean come on! That’s just ridiculous. Aprilia’s electronics are just top notch and at such a price point. Though I think the Ducati looks better, I picked the Tuono V4 and I don’t regret it. So much fun! Yes, it does get a little sour waiting too long at stops and slow traffic. But man oh man! When you roll on that throttle and make it go, it’s just ridiculously satisfying.
Honda already made a street fighter style naked it's called CB1000 Hornet
10:23 My Steed. Low maintenance and it howls. So fun.
Damn you Yammie, I'm still buying a Tuono!
Good ranking, but its personal like he said, if i wanted a hyper naked i think i went for the Kawa to, but my stif 59 year old 6.5 ass is no longer suitable for this type of bikes 😩
Great review, loved it. Of course the whole class is a bit ridiculous. Hard to use their fire breathing capability in the real world.
I get what your saying about if ppl buy bmw bikes for clout on IG . Don't let me have one ill forget to posy because I'm riding tf out of one . There's a difference between ppl who flex and ppl who actually ride and or drive something made to go fast .
you can get a ZH2 AND an MT07 for the price of the Ducati...and the maintenance is still cheaper :)
SOUNDS like you maybe didn't actually ride a not-even-out -yet 1390 Superduke? Sorry if I misinterpreted. I'd like to know where you found one--I want to ride it after owning the V.1 and V.2.
would personally fit the 1250 r, never rode it but seems like it accelerates like a rocket
It does
Respectable list. A) Good to see you can critique your picks. Every bike has pros and cons. B) Triumph speed triple: Maybe a great bike, but the headlights.. just NO!!! No, no, no... Part of owning a bike is the look-back appeal (without losing your lunch). C) I think the H2 is an awesome motorcycle, but... I would not own one. There has to be a balance of power and lean for a good ride. H2 has all the power, but leaning it into a curve? Seems like work with all the top-heavy weight.
If Ducati can put cruise control on thr SFV4 lineup I’m 100% in.
I think you could probably shuffle that deck, but you had all the right bikes in it.
To be fair, the V4 ducatis cost half as much to check and adjust valves as the old (or even new) V2s. You also only have to do it every 15k miles now so.. not too bad. ~4 hours labor isn’t a giant reason to not buy one.
What's the best bike for casual day-ride type stuff 2-up? I don't need lots of power, and don't want an enormous Goldwing type bike, I just tote the wife around.
13:50 lol! you can take yammie off the turbo busa but you can't take the turbo busa out of yammie
if only they made naked turbo busas, a trailer park boy can dream.
I bought the M1000R.... Yes its awesome.... Damn it Yammie...
How about a review on the smaller bikes for us geezers? And for those who don't like too much wind. Is Triumph still making triples?
8:45- Speed Triple.
Dude stop scaring us around every time you wrap up the video
The only thing that has kept me off of the ZH2 is the looks. I know they never will but I just wish they’d make it in a solid color instead of this black with highlights thing they have going on.
Just can’t get over the look of the zh2
That is bang for buck? Price and plus service costs for me.😅
You forgetting honda is gonna release the hornet 1000
the tuono makes good sound? Have you even listened to the mv?😂
I love everything about the KTM including the looks but damn that’s a LOT of money for something unreliable. I want to ride every day without worrying about breakdowns
Can someone help me out I ride a r3 and I need tank grips but problem is my legs are not close enough to tank cutouts ( their right below them) I’m 5”9 and can’t figure it out 😂
Back years later and this guy is still making the same clickbait shit. Gotta respect the hustle.
Tuono is a blast to ride!
I agree I love my tuono v4, just took mine out yesterday for the first ride of the season after a crummy winter.
What about the z1000?
I will admit, I was pleasantly surprised when Yammie announced a Kawasaki as #1, I was thinking throughout the clip.. Why haven't you mentioned a Kawasaki yet 😅
YAM PLEASE REVIEW THE APRILLIA 457!
U lost me at Ducati streetfighter, thing goes 2 miles on 1 gallon 😂
I think the MVAgusta is beautiful, but that price is insane. I like the GSXs, don't like that Honda. BMW, no thanks, its pretty, but too much money. I don't trust the reliability, like their cars. Too she-she. I don't like the KTM look either. Aprilia is pretty, not enough dealer support. The Triumph headlight, ugh...I can't look at it too long. I love the MT-10, the looks, the way they run, everything. Love it! A man's bike! Sorry, I don't like the new Streetfighter's looks. I love the last gen though, the VTwin. TOO MUCH MONEY! Not worth the money. I love the KAW. I am prejudice. Although the reliability of a supercharged engine is sketchy, I have faith in Kawasaki. I would just change the engine oil every 700-800 miles, for sure. I know you mentioned, money is no object. I feel that money IS always an object, even if I were "Bazos-wealthy". For me, its a toss-up on the KAW H2 naked or the YAM MT-10. Both are wonderfully over-kill, but worthy of my love. Both are a punch in the nuts naked-bikes!
I have to get the valves done on my Streetfighter V4S this summer 😢 and it ain't cheap. I'd still rather have the Ducati over the Kawasaki any day, the Kawasaki is too heavy.
Ride a well equipped b-king!
It will make you feel stuff...
Z H2 will always be king. Nothing like it, plus it’s so damn cheap you can get a second bike compared to other more expensive options
SFv4S is best hands down. No competition
Money is no object, but your first talking point is how much it costs... 0:50, 4:13