Just received my Xsr several weeks ago. Am 69 years old, having been riding for 53 of them. What a hoot this bike is! I had spent 20 years riding my ‘99 R1, and on that bike you always felt that you couldn’t use all its performance on the road, only on the track. The XSR relieves you of that psychological constraint. The triple sounds great and the tech makes for an amusing and competent ride. Love the bike.
@@VariationMachine Eric, I've never been injured while writing-my pens aren't that sharp. While road racing my RD350 in the late 70s/early 80s over a 5 year period, I crashed about a half dozen times. The cost of doing business in that arena in those days (the tires of the day were crap, and 20 somethings think they're invincible). Also high sided my R1 and broke a collar bone-high horsepower, brand new rear tire, 40 degree day, and a fresh carb rejetting combined with optimistic throttle application. My advice to a new rider is to carefully ratchet up one's speed commensurate with ability and confidence. Be ever vigilant with respect to situational awareness and don't daydream while riding. Always look where you want to go-the bike tends to go where you're looking. Take a new rider training course/take an on track roadracing course to pick up control skills. Ideally, one should learn to ride in the dirt - skill acquisition is quicker and safer. Enjoy the ride!
@@VariationMachine Gone down while writing??? There's a joke in there somewhere!😀 As to going down while riding, yeah. While roadracing in the late 70s, early 80's I did so a number of times. On the street, highsided on cold tires and broke a collar bone. But, isolated incidents. As to advice, the obvious one is to be ever vigilant about your surroundings. Also, as you approach a corner look where you want to go, because your body follows your eyes. Drive "offensively", a term coined by Nick Ienatsch (look him up-former magazine editor turned training school guru). Summarizing, drive defensively with a plus-go a little bit faster than the surrounding cars so that you are in charge of your surroundings. Always try and put yourself into a gap whereby you are not closely sandwich by other vehicles, who may or may not be paying attention. I really suggest you look up Nick Ienatsch-there's a huge amount of riding safety editorial material on the internet and in books. Good luck!
I think it can be summerised as: the kawasaki isa nice take on the UJM of old, with a classy style, but modern where it counts, the yamaha on the other hand is just ugly
I'm sure the Yamaha is a good bike, but it looks crap, whoever is responsible for the style needs shooting! The seat is too big, the headlamp is too small, it just doesn't flow or look right.
I think you've missed the point. The Kwak is a truly beautiful remake of a 70s classic and the Yam, which may technically be a better bike, looks like a dogs dinner that's crashed into a wall. Make your own choice on what you want.
Kawasaki z900rs is a classic motorcycle with modern handling, build quality, and reliability. And I just love the fact that it come with no electronic intervention whatsoever. A pure riding experience, just you and the motorcycle. Love it.
@@cammy9r Thank you. Yes, ABS and TC are useful tools no doubt. But then, a tool that I am using should help me achieve my goals more effectively. In other words, it should serve by interests. I don't think it's always the case when the tool has a mind of its own. An electronic throttle makes it so I'm not in complete control of my own vehicle. I do not like that!
@@cammy9r I frankly do not care about emissions. Carbon capturing can solve a lot of the problems. If done right it may or may not act as a rentable energy. For me the problem is people want new tech for the sake of progress, don't you think?
Obvious from the start which bike you prefered - listing various yamahas' (FZR's) you had enjoyed in the past. Far from being 'fake' I reckon the kwaka is more authentic to its design brief. Prospective buyers of the kwaka don't want or need the tech available on any number of modern bikes.
Had the Red/Silver version. That thing was a MONSTER. It would do a 100mph in a blink. You could be in 5th doing 40 and twist the throttle...it would grunt and then WHAM!
Back in 2005 I bought an absolutley 'mint' GPz.900-R - (the "A.8" final version) in Black/Charcoal/Bronze I still have it, but, it's by far THE most uncomfortable bike I've ever owned - (I was used to older ergonomics) Every time I'd go out on my bikes (Z.1000-J, CB.900-F & GS.1000-E) I'd be out like 9-11 hours at a time (all day !) The latter two (I also still own both as well as the GPz) NEVER as in were NEVER uncomfortable to ride (hrs) That Yamaha trick tho' it might be, is WAAAAY too ugly for me - I'd choose the Kawasaki instead
Not much else to say to two experienced road test journalists that are reviewing the Z900RS and talking about quick shifters and track days: personally I'd do more homework as to who this bike was, and is aimed at, and its people like me, born in the early 60's that had the original Z1 poster on his bedroom wall in the early 70's and dreaming of owning one some day: for me that day has arrived and its a stunning machine for laid back riding, not very often in the sun unfortunately, but smelling the rape seed in the countryside and still drooling as you pass the shop windows in the town at the kind of speeds that really don't need a quick shifter!!
Kawasaki looks 1000% better yamaha seat needs throwing away starting again, general look doesn't do it for me even with the yamaha having better electronics I'd still choose the Z ,
I rode both the Kawasaki Z900 and the Yamaha XSR900, while I never shortlisted the Z900RS. I picked the XSR, because it is so light and thus agile plus it comes along with a full range of gimmicks such as quickshifter, cruise control etc. I haven't regretted my choice a single instant yet.
If the bike pushes most of your buttons as you ride it, does it really matter what it looks like in your garage (or on the street corner?) There are some colors I would hesitate to purchase on a car/truck, but as I drive down the road, I rarely think about the color of my vehicle, just if its running ok... . Still, I know outward appearance has a factor for me in what decisions I make as to what I purchase. Just the way things can be ... .
A big DUHH.....see my comment above re the ones that will buy the zed will tend toward vain and/or ignorant....well unless they have bucks for a whole stable of motorcycles.....other than that who would give up so so SO much in exchange for mere looks? Be like marrying a gorgeous model that had no personality, is dumb as a stump and nasty mean with no sense of humor and is high maintence .... how good would she keep looking then day after day if you knew you gave up less of a looker who had wonderful personality, funny, adorable, smart and rich...and how much better would SHE start looking every moment thereafter? And btw the Yammie might not be as cute on the surface but she is TRIM compared to porkypie over there ...lol and so much more fun to roll around with besides!
People who complain about Z900Rs not having quick shifter are just lazy only 10yrs ago none was available for street bikes and still not needed.It was designed for racing seriously on streets clutch is fine.About cruise control if I want a bike with CC I'll be buy a goldwing or sport tourer why would I buy naked for putting hundreds of miles in a day on highway? About mods? None needed.Have we become lazy? I enjoy riding a bike and have no time fiddling through menu just to get out garage....
I think both bikes are going to please plenty of riders. The Yam will appeal to a younger, sportier rider with an appreciation of the retro vibe ( which is all the rage for the younger set ) , while the Zed will appeal to those that were actually there to remember and appreciate the charms of that era
I think your right, I’m of the z900 era, but still love the bite and more aggressive looks and ride of the XSR. The Kawa is a nod to that era, very nice, but having a sorta copy doesn’t appeal. I do have an original RD 2 stroke, the real deal. However, aren’t we lucky to have the choice !
Spot on. I bought the XSR because I wanted an MT09 but hated the look of it. I wasn't around for the 80s, nostalgia was not a factor. Japanese motorcycle design has really gone off the deep end in recent years, I think many of us simply appreciate anything that doesn't look like it came in a happy meal.
@@dsofe4879 Haha, like it came with a happy meal, that’s great ! The mt10 ? Looks are very subjective, but that triple motor in a light bike is amazing if you like a bike with a bit of edginess to it.
@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 There will be private companies making them. I took a (rd250) seat to an upholsterer and got them to put in new shaped foam and make a new cover with an old style cafe racer hump.
As the Z1000 was the first big bike I rode (a friend owned it actually, but he's too drunk to ride safely home from the club), the last bike I actually owned prior expatriating was the Z900, the purchase of my Z900 RS 2022 was a no-brainer. Whether the Yammi might be better (in some minor aspects) than the Kwaki is of no concern at all to me 😁
I own the first generation of the XSR and tried the Z900. They are very different bikes, even more different than they look. The XSR is nimbler, lightier, more sporty and cheaper. The Z is more elegant, more classic and has higher quality perception. I would choose the Yamaha for the dynamics and the Kawasaki for the looks.
The xsr is pig ugly let's be honest and even though it's got the tech let's be honest it means nothing when you look back in the garage at it. The z900 is one of the best looking bikes around.
No competition looks wise, the Kawasaki is gorgeous. The Yam just isn't. I own the old XSR900 model but had it re-styled by Velocity Moto to give it the RD350LC look. Yamaha have lost their way in the styling department but undoubtedly make fun, reliable bikes.
disagree on your assessment of the z900rs. It’s not lazy. It’s authentic. You cant discount it for being TOO genuinely retro when that’s its whole thing. It does it better than the yam considering it’s complete and not just dressing like the yammy. That said I wish that kawasaki had more options And models.
Christmas Eve 2023 Santa brought me a lime green 💚 kz 900 rs cafe , my dream bike . Shopped for a year test riding , every manufacturers " sport touring" bikes . Leaning toward retro performance oriented machines . My first ride on ZED , an it was love at first ride . This summer is my 42 nd year of riding . I'm siked an anches for spring.
@@jpbsv About what?😂 Lmao just kidding. *psyched and *anxious of course. It kills me too. I am sorely vexed by how many teens and adults that post comments here as well as other sites with errors in grammar which my kids didn't make in 3rd grade. Homophones are apparently Kryptonite to those which were educated in US public schools. To/too/two and especially your/you're/yore make many folks look foolish whether they realize it or not...
I have a 2021 Z900RS and love it, it a great looking retro bike and the build quality is excellent. I think the XSR is more targeting the cafe racer brigade, so the styling just didn't appeal to me personally. Still, I am sure owners of either of these great bikes will be happy with their choice.
All I can is I’ve owned my Z900RS since 2018 and my heart still skips a beat when I open the garage door and see it there. It’s the Jaffa colour which is the best colour imo. I’ve done 26,000 kms on it and still enjoy everything about it. Yes, the OEM tyres are crap and I changed to Bridgetone S22 which transform the handling along with proper suspension setup. I guess the Yamaha is superior as far as rider aids go, I fitted a Translogic quickshifter to mine but it is upshift only. Personally I think the Yamaha looks ugly, but looks are subjective I guess. If I was getting a Yamaha it would be a 2022 MT10 SP. My Kawasaki is a keeper.
I agree with you that the "candy red" as Kawasaki call it even though it's more orange than red is a beautiful bike that mimics the original Z1 perfectly.
@@SZA001 its obvious to me they were going for the same silotte as cafe racer or road racers with box tail section the riders seat is cut into .....but without at least a bolt on color matched hard shell hiding the pillion seat and creating a tail fairing effect it just does not jibe with anyone that missed what Yamaha was trying for....I'll be surprised if Yamaha or aftermarket does not very soon offer either a solo seat with box tail section or a cover that gives that effect....problem with those would be losing the pillion and not having a place to strap a seatbag too ...cause if the cover was painted you would probably not want to strap anything to it for fear of marring the finish
@@SZA001 To me it looks like Yamaha was simply mimicking the sillouette of an old road race bike as if it were a solo seat with a fiberglass cowl section the seat being cut into it ...but i dont think some people understand this and all they see is a wierd seat...Yamaha I think SHOULD have either provided a paint matched cover for the passenger seat to make it actually appear as a real solo seat OR more practically could have simply colored the seat covering back there to match the paint and graphics...speaking of which IF the bike were jet black it might be easier to understand and get
My z900rs gets people stopping and looking every time I take it out. And I don't stop smiling when I'm riding it. It's an absolute beaut. No question which is the better bike in my opinion.
The Yamaha is doing it’s own unique thing, with a retro vibe. The rs is just a wannabe sorta copy, trying to be something it’s not in a, I want an original but I can’t afford one kinda way. I really didn’t like the wide tank on the rs. Good to have the choices though.
Whilst working at a big dealership, everyone looked at the kwak and most walked past the yam paying it very little attention. I think that sums up their appeal. What would you prefer to see when you opened the garage door?
I agree with you😊 I think the Yamaha looks too modern and people who tend to buy this style of bike are looking for nostalgia which the Kawasaki has in spades
@@Mike-er7ym I believe it's called neo-retro. It has very little to do with nostalgia and more with reinterpreting retro styling in a modern way. Honda's done it successfully with their CB650R/CB1000R, so has Husqvarna with the Svartpilen and Triumph with the Trident. I don't understand why the XSR and the Z900RS are constantly lumped in with each other, they aren't at all in the same category, IMO. I own the Yamaha, I bought it purely because I wanted an MT09, but hated the bug-eyed cyclops look of it. I'm 29, I wasn't around for the 80s. No nostalgia involved. So far, the only people who have asked me about it or shown any interest were in their 20s and 30s. I'm sure that would be waaaay different on a Z900rs, I think Kawasaki is targeting a much older audience who are buying the bike for very different reasons.
I’m an older rider 62 so I remember the first Z1 in 1972 and the Kawasaki has captured the look very well 👌 so it would be the one I would choose 😁 I don’t particularly like the look of the New XSR900 (although it’s much nicer than the MT09!) but It will probably appeal to a younger demographic 😊 That being said I applaud Yamaha for making it for such an affordable price (£1000 less than the Kawasaki) especially with that brilliant engine and plethora of electronics including quick shifter and blipper …good job ☺️
What is with the obsession of needing a quickshifter on a (pretend) retro bike? What happened to simple, back to basics riding? Same comment about cruise control....WHY?? How lazy do you want to be as a rider?
Here in the US, every one needs the latest tacticool part on their handgun. From the lastest light that will light your way to Mars or a red dot to fire at something 10 feet from you. I love basics. Kaw all the way.
Hi guys, my wife has just bought me the kawasaki 9OORS se,Miles better than the standard one you rode, being of a certain age I remember the original one in 1973 I prefer the looks over the yamaha, I'm sure it's a lovely bike to ride but I have to think of my passenger's comfort, after all she did pay for it 😊
Thanks for a great review. Interesting perspective on the Kaw's design brief: While I agree with it needing some tech updating - quick shifter, cruise at least! - the design to me is not to be a sort of "fake", but an embracing of the design aesthetic from that era that is, frankly, still quite attractive. It's not a hankering for something nostalgic. Nothing wrong with that. All said, though, I am not entirely sure these two would be seriously cross-shopped. Different use target, really, and I think they both hit their mark.
I bought the Z, and was in fact cross shopping the two, but in the end, I was after a true classic bike look and feel and the XSR just didn’t have it. But damn the tech and riding features sure are nice. Maybe just means I need both!
@@DeathComesSwiftly same. Got the z over the xsr because that xsr to be frank did not look anything classic to me except for its round headlight. It has way too much plastic on the outside. If I wanted an actual sport bike that “performs” like a monster on the road then I’d just get myself a proper sport bike but I just got the z because it truly resembled bikes from the past but with modern safety features that I would actually need on the street.
The Kawasaki is clearly the sexiest animal. Actually, it should be noted that Kawasaki owns 49 percent of Bimota. Where do you think that chassis came from? This Z900RS is a form of art. The Rolls Royce of Japanese bikes. The Bimota KB-2 that you would ride wearing a tux. I know...I own one.
I tested the z900RS. Excellent riding position, even for my 6'5"frame. Outstanding build quality. Well behaved, I liked the need to wind it up. But powerful and sporty enough. I should've bought it, but as I was returning after injuries, I got a used, but nice V-Strom 650. As for the XSR, the looks have improved, the chassis is more sensible. It really didn't need more power though. Buying now I'd get the Kawasaki, but any of them are good for Sunday thrills and more.
I think that the typical R900RS customer would be older and say "why on earth do you need a quick-shifter?" On another recent article I responded to someone who asked that very question. They originally believed that young people were too stupid to properly use a clutch!
I've been riding for 44 years, and have had 11 motorcycles. which includes 6 Yamaha's. I currently ride and travel on a 2013 Yamaha FJR1300a, which I bought used with 2832 miles on the clock, and that now has over 63,500 miles on. I just absolutely am in love with my current Yamaha, and am considering getting an XSR as a second bike for having fun on. It will be a sad day, one day when I'm too old to ride. Riding my FJR brings me absolute bliss, even when the weather is rainy, and I have to put on a rainsuit, the joy I get from riding my FJR is indescribable. Looking at the horsepower to weight ratio of the XSR should give anyone an idea of what fun they're in for. 117 horsepower with a 425 pound chain driven bike, and a quick shifter is a recipe for ear to ear perma-grin. My FJR by comparison puts 127 horsepower down at the rear wheel, but weighs well over 600 pounds dry, and it's still a ball to open that throttle from a stop light and leave everything else in my mirrors. Plus the mid-range power on the inter-state highway here in the states always makes me smile. At 65 mph, no need to downshift to pass and get ahead of a group of cars. Just roll the throttle ever so slightly, and hold on, and literally in about 3 seconds you're approaching the triple digit mark. Remind me to send a love letter to Yamaha. I do have to say Bennet that this XSR reminds me of one of my past rides, and that was an RD400. Light, zippy, and flickable.
I am in my early 60''s and currently have a 2019 Gen 3 FJR1300 - great bike - bags of power everywhere and does everything effortlessly. I also had an RD400 which I bought in 79 - it was an absolute hooligan bike. I'd also like to get something a bit smaller just for shorter rides. I like the Triumph T100/T120/Speed Twin and was also looking at a Z900RS . . . . but this Yamaha now has my interest.
Trying to say the Yamaha, in any way, looks better than the Kawi makes no sense to me. Mentioning the build quality of the Yam without mentioning the loose cables running up to the bars that look like they are wrapped in electrical tape? The headlight that looks like a poorly chosen aftermarket part? Agree with most of the rest of what was said. Still, these bikes ARE about looks and I guess it's subjective in the end.
Kawasaki are just lazy, I own a 2018 z900rs and every year I wait for the new bike and all they do is wheel out the same old bike in a different colourway, they could easily update the electronics, add cruise, quckshifter IMU etc.. without compromising the gorgeous looks.
I suppose you could put your name down for the Z900RS SE with the Ohlins suspension and Brembo brakes, but they are pretty hard to get. Personally I think they look a bit gaudy with the gold forks and rims and yellow tank, I prefer my 2018 Jaffa.
It's definitely that the Yamaha XSR900 2022 is a better tech because its a model changed from the previous model. I mean the Z900rs remains the same since 2018... The XSR is already a second generation. Fair enough to win this competition. I like the xsr900 2022 too. Therefore if you compare 900rs to XSR900 2018... Kawasaki is a clear winner i believe. Great review by the way.
Thank you guys!!! I just picked up my XSR 900 on Monday....loved it from the first second. The ergonomics are just on point for me (176cm). Can`t wait to feel the pure power after 1000km 🙂. I drove the MT09 last year to see if I lke the CP3...and the CP3 is exactly how you guys described it...engaging and thrilling !! The chassis is so agile and light to handle like a bicycle. Up to now I had a YZF750 which is already a nice handling bike from the 90`s but nothing to compare to the XSR. I like the Z too but I have been always Yamaha guy and for that price a bargain. Cheers from Hamburg Germany
Am I the only person who has ridden the MT-09, XSR900, and Tracer 9, but just doesn't feel all of the swooning that the motojournos do over that motor?
My 1st 2 bikes were a Z1 and KZ (before I was even licensed), so I'm definitely partial. Hell, I still have my Z1, KZ750 and Z750E. But that aside, I'm not bothered by the price difference because the Kawasaki will hold its value better and will without a doubt keep its appeal much longer. The Kawasaki will age like a leather saddle, while the Yamaha will age like cheap leather jacket. The Kawasaki will gain character while the Yamaha will just get used and old.
Kwaka all the way beautiful looking bike and has a oem bikini screen that can be fitted, I'm a bit biased as I have a fruited up zrx1200r that is proper old school but would eat both these bikes. The XSR looks confused they haven't got the styling quite rite it's a bit meh.
From the description and review of the Yamaha, it begs the question; why compare it to the retro Kawasaki? In the Yamaha you’ve described a modern motorcycle with no retro features or appeal whatsoever. From what you’ve described, the Yamaha should be compared to a modern motorcycle. It seems like Yamaha - and the reviewer - missed the whole point.
The Yamaha is a brilliant bike & the tester clearly loved it. But, unfortunately, this appears to have caused him to totally miss the point in relation to the Kawasaki & what it is all about. To be moaning about the lack of a quickshifter on the Z900RS, is hilarious...
I have ridden both and I can guarantee you, both are about the same speed. The Yamaha is more agile but uncomfortable, you notice it after 1 hour. The Kawasaki is massively more comfortable but also more expensive (Switzerland). Nevertheless, every time my XSR-900 friends get on my Z900RS, they want to ride my bike for the whole tour... I leave it up to you to decide what this means. In the end, everyone has to find the right bike for themselves.
XSR900 next to gorgeous Z9000RS is butt ugly. Tail section weird doesn't flow and that hideous headlight is just ugly.Looks cheap like from budget bucket bin.Great engine but everything else looks kind of designed by a drunk.
Never heard anyone put down the z900rs. Weird . Where the Yamaha looks like a crap sports bike and confused with its own looks. If it's a representation of a 80's bike then it should not a crap looking modern sports bike.
Great head to head. Certainly has made me take a second look at the XSR (which I really didn’t like the look of at first, but it is now growing in me). My last bike was a Z900rs and I chose it because I felt it was more “authentic” than a Speed Twin! Interesting that Simon felt the XSR is similarly more authentic or maybe genuine than the Z is. I was tempted to get another Z900RS but I think I’m going to have to give the Yamaha a try! Thanks for the tip!
@@DeathComesSwiftly I even thought about trying to get an RS SE, but when I look at the price (compared to the XSR) and what you get for your money the Yamaha seems to make more sense. I had an XSR700 when they first came out and it was a fun bike. I expect that the 900 is even more so…….. 👍
Yes it's odd, some people seem to look at the z900rs as an attempt to replicate the Z1 - and some then go on further to bemoan the lack of twin suspension and 4-4 pipes - whilst others (including me) see it as a 'retro' that isn't trying to be a replicate, rather, simply adopt strong styling cues in a modern dress - and prefer it that way. It's not trying to do what Triumph does with a number of their modern classics. Ultimately we have to have an emotional connection with our bikes, and whereas I quite fancy the RD style xsr which speaks more to my era, I can't get over the looks of the new one, despite the bike being more fun than the zed in other respects. I kinda felt that Adam, more than Simon, was speaking as much from an emotive perspective as from a technical perspective, and was perhaps unduly harsh on the zed!
I'd be happy with either, love the look of the 900RS but with the XSR I prefer the looks of the older model despite it's short comings and with the Velocity Moto LC kit it looks fantastic.
The previous gen xsr looks very masculine and tough. The current gen looks like a ladybug and the build quality looks like it came from a factory for cheap toys in china with all that matte plastic shit.
Good test except for the bellyaching about the quick shift. The Z1 didn't need one, and neither does the Z900RS. I have the Z900 (2021) and don't have nor want a qs.
I'm a long term Yamaha man but just on looks I'd go for the Z. I never really saw the xsr as being retro. Just a variation on the mt09/ tracer platform. As said the dash on the xsr looks small and I prefer the twin clocks look. I did try the old xsr that belonged to a mate and found it felt quite small, but then I am 6'2".not fussed about quick shifters, abs, traction control or any of that other stuff and if I had it it would probably just get left on one setting and I guess I wouldn't be the only one to do that.
LOL! Sounds more like a Yamaha commercial than a comparison! And with good reason. I love the "looks" of the kawie...but my coin went for the performance and fun oriented XSR900. I love it! No regrets. Do it!
Loved your quote at the two thirds point as it's the most accurate thing you say in the whole vid: " I sound like an advocate for Yamaha" Uh ya!! Yikes, every positive of the Kawi is skimmed over and every Yamaha moment is the second coming. Get a room already. 50 disappointments for Kawi, not a single positive until your co-host finally drags you into some concessions. And the Kawi is "fake" because it tries harder to be the bike it represents while the Yamaha is "more honest" because it does next to nothing to recreate the experience and look. Which one is the truer Retro? The Yamaha??? Let's be accurate: The Kawi is a stunner for looks and the Yami is easily one of the ugliest bikes I have ever seen. You could put any motor, any tech bit, anything on that conglomeration and you'd still never see me on it. You chose performance on a retro comparison. Surely I could go out and compete on a modern offering with all the tech bits from any of the other manufacturers against the Yamaha. Am I buying a Retro to get a modern bike?
I love the Kawasaki looks wise, it’s just perfect. I’m a first gen xsr900 owner, so I prefer mine, but the new one has some nice features, especially cruise control. 👍🇨🇦🤪
Nice review guys 👍. I love the look of the Kaw. It is in looks exactly what I remember (sort of) from my 1985 Honda CB650SC. Loved that bike. The Yamaha may be better techniqal wise, less weight, more HP, better suspension out the door, and less cost. BUT better in looks? Oh no, it’s as butt weird looking (to me) as BWM’s overdone boxer 1800 is. Who comes up with these designs? Not a 67 year old fart like me… ha ha. To each their own. Would I purchase a Z900? Hmmm no wind protection at all is a tall hurdle to jump if you’re going to do any touring as far as I can see. It’s an in town bike, 2-20 miles only, for both of em. Oh course, you couldn’t pay me to buy that Yamaha, it is so NOT the look I would pay money for, ugh!! Thanks for the great review of both.
A quickshifter would spoil the z900rs to a degree. The whole point is to get the experience of a classic bike but have modern reliability and performance.
I am a bit biased because i have a 74 Z1 and think it still a beauti , IMO the RS blows the XSR into the weeds in the looks dept ...That being said that Yamaha is pretty cool in other chunky ways and if tech is your smile than its the one .
Got my XRS900 in September and bought it after watching Chads launch review. His little face couldnt stop smiling. I had ridden the Kawasaki previously and loved it but I didnt want one where I wanted the XSR. I have no complaints with my choice.
I can totally agree with thoughts on Z900RS. I was in love with this bike when it came out but in my country the price is even higher and to be honest it really lacks features comparing to yama. Q&D would be nice but since it has one of the most comfortable seats on the market, cruise control could be a very useful addon. Display is outdated (but really like those analogue dials ❤). and they making bike more expensive every year without changes (i know that everything is getting more and more expensive). Chassis and brakes are also worse but I could definitely live with it since I am not planning to take it on track days 😊 Right now the price in my country is 13300 vs 10500 GBP against Kawa so even if you love the style there is much to think because you are choosing much more expensive bike with worse performance and features🤔
Really like these comparison reviews. Been riding since the early 70's and thought I'd go for the Kawasaki. But watching this makes me realise the Yamaha would be more fun. It's that triple engine, sounds great and has character.
Great review. I really like your style of reviews. I must say the Yamaha is an ugly looking bike and I see no need for all the electronics, just more to fail in the future. If you are doing a retro bike at least make it nice to look at like the Kawasaki.
The Yam looks just like a modern day bike and looks crap, the exhaust is a disgrace and looks discoloured to hell and knackered. The Kawasaki is much smarter not as good looking as the original but much better looking than the Yam.
That Yamaha MIGHT be modern & trick but to me it looks "A$$hole Butt Ugly" - That headlight, those brackets URGH Bizarrely that Kawasaki tank badge (plastic made to look metal) is EXACTLY the same as my then 'new' Z.1000-J
Me too especially if they make the ‘young machine’ twin headlight blue and yellow version, that custom build looked incredible. Rode an xsr900;today ticked so many boxes. Just not quite there on the looks.
You guys obviously preferred the Yamaha and on specs and price it's probably the better buy, but I'm obviously an old fart and for me I'd buy the Kawasaki any day. It's just a lovely looking machine whereas to me the XSR is one ugly lookin fecker and I'm not a big of TFT screens and all the riding modes etc.
you guys do some of the best most helpful, informative sitting in the saddle reviews on the web. Thank you! for me the xsr900 is the right balance with a nod to retro looks combined with tip-top latest performance features
Trying to be a bike from the late seventies!, but isn’t that the point, it’s a retro and my it looks good, the Yamaha is probably the better machine but for the looks stop my wallet . Do you find the same ‘fakery’ in Royal Enfield, Triumphs, in fact all other standard style bikes , so really you’re saying you only think the latest design is real. Really, but I guess you work for dealer so the idea is to sell bikes .
I think that Yamaha tried to look retro but they just didn't get it right. I don't know about anybody else but I like even numbers I don't want some three-cylinder engine
Just received my Xsr several weeks ago. Am 69 years old, having been riding for 53 of them. What a hoot this bike is! I had spent 20 years riding my ‘99 R1, and on that bike you always felt that you couldn’t use all its performance on the road, only on the track. The XSR relieves you of that psychological constraint. The triple sounds great and the tech makes for an amusing and competent ride. Love the bike.
To Jinx you sir, but in all your years of writing. Have you ever gone down? Or seriously injured. what tips Or Advice, would you give to a new rider?
@@VariationMachine Eric, I've never been injured while writing-my pens aren't that sharp. While road racing my RD350 in the late 70s/early 80s over a 5 year period, I crashed about a half dozen times. The cost of doing business in that arena in those days (the tires of the day were crap, and 20 somethings think they're invincible). Also high sided my R1 and broke a collar bone-high horsepower, brand new rear tire, 40 degree day, and a fresh carb rejetting combined with optimistic throttle application. My advice to a new rider is to carefully ratchet up one's speed commensurate with ability and confidence. Be ever vigilant with respect to situational awareness and don't daydream while riding. Always look where you want to go-the bike tends to go where you're looking. Take a new rider training course/take an on track roadracing course to pick up control skills. Ideally, one should learn to ride in the dirt - skill acquisition is quicker and safer. Enjoy the ride!
@@VariationMachine Gone down while writing??? There's a joke in there somewhere!😀 As to going down while riding, yeah. While roadracing in the late 70s, early 80's I did so a number of times. On the street, highsided on cold tires and broke a collar bone. But, isolated incidents. As to advice, the obvious one is to be ever vigilant about your surroundings. Also, as you approach a corner look where you want to go, because your body follows your eyes. Drive "offensively", a term coined by Nick Ienatsch (look him up-former magazine editor turned training school guru). Summarizing, drive defensively with a plus-go a little bit faster than the surrounding cars so that you are in charge of your surroundings. Always try and put yourself into a gap whereby you are not closely sandwich by other vehicles, who may or may not be paying attention. I really suggest you look up Nick Ienatsch-there's a huge amount of riding safety editorial material on the internet and in books. Good luck!
I think it can be summerised as: the kawasaki isa nice take on the UJM of old, with a classy style, but modern where it counts, the yamaha on the other hand is just ugly
I’m an owner of the Z900RS. Excellent bike that reminds me to the days I had the XJR1300. Very pleased with it!
Do you have a standard seat? How long can you ride with it? Did you try going two up and what is your opinion? Thanks a lot.-
Yeah but did you try the yammy?
Wish it had cruise control
I'm sure the Yamaha is a good bike, but it looks crap, whoever is responsible for the style needs shooting! The seat is too big, the headlamp is too small, it just doesn't flow or look right.
Yamaha XSR900-Kawasaki Z900RS : Two completely different bikes for completely different styles of riding. Comparison between them is useless.
Yamaha is not a retro.
Better to compare it to the Z900 .
Z900RS is a retro and should be compared to other retros such as Triumphs etc
The Kawasaki is a beautiful machine and they have nailed the retro look and feel
I think you've missed the point. The Kwak is a truly beautiful remake of a 70s classic and the Yam, which may technically be a better bike, looks like a dogs dinner that's crashed into a wall.
Make your own choice on what you want.
Kawasaki z900rs is a classic motorcycle with modern handling, build quality, and reliability. And I just love the fact that it come with no electronic intervention whatsoever. A pure riding experience, just you and the motorcycle. Love it.
@@cammy9r Thank you. Yes, ABS and TC are useful tools no doubt.
But then, a tool that I am using should help me achieve my goals more effectively. In other words, it should serve by interests. I don't think it's always the case when the tool has a mind of its own. An electronic throttle makes it so I'm not in complete control of my own vehicle.
I do not like that!
@@cammy9r I frankly do not care about emissions. Carbon capturing can solve a lot of the problems. If done right it may or may not act as a rentable energy.
For me the problem is people want new tech for the sake of progress, don't you think?
Obvious from the start which bike you prefered - listing various yamahas' (FZR's) you had enjoyed in the past.
Far from being 'fake' I reckon the kwaka is more authentic to its design brief.
Prospective buyers of the kwaka don't want or need the tech available on any number of modern bikes.
@@PrabhuKumar0 ot maybe to save a shattered ankle and busted collarbone. Don't you think?
@@anxiousappliance well, people should learn to ride safe then. I mean, people managed to ride relatively safely before electric safety tech existed.
I adore my Z900RS. It's the bike that got me back on 2 wheels after decades away. My last new bike purchase was a GPZ900A2 in '86!
SJK. Fantastic, good riding !
FZ750 back in '86 for me. I remember a GPZ900 leaving me standing on the A56 near Knutsford.
Had the Red/Silver version. That thing was a MONSTER. It would do a 100mph in a blink. You could be in 5th doing 40 and twist the throttle...it would grunt and then WHAM!
@@mikejohnson9118 Mine was red and silver too ... as were my helmet and leathers!
Back in 2005 I bought an absolutley 'mint' GPz.900-R - (the "A.8" final version) in Black/Charcoal/Bronze
I still have it, but, it's by far THE most uncomfortable bike I've ever owned - (I was used to older ergonomics)
Every time I'd go out on my bikes (Z.1000-J, CB.900-F & GS.1000-E) I'd be out like 9-11 hours at a time (all day !)
The latter two (I also still own both as well as the GPz) NEVER as in were NEVER uncomfortable to ride (hrs)
That Yamaha trick tho' it might be, is WAAAAY too ugly for me - I'd choose the Kawasaki instead
It's pretty bizarre that people insist on comparing these two bikes. They're really not for the same person and they fill different roles.
Sorry ... the Kawasaki all the way.
No contest.
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Not much else to say to two experienced road test journalists that are reviewing the Z900RS and talking about quick shifters and track days: personally I'd do more homework as to who this bike was, and is aimed at, and its people like me, born in the early 60's that had the original Z1 poster on his bedroom wall in the early 70's and dreaming of owning one some day: for me that day has arrived and its a stunning machine for laid back riding, not very often in the sun unfortunately, but smelling the rape seed in the countryside and still drooling as you pass the shop windows in the town at the kind of speeds that really don't need a quick shifter!!
Kawasaki looks 1000% better yamaha seat needs throwing away starting again, general look doesn't do it for me even with the yamaha having better electronics I'd still choose the Z ,
I rode both the Kawasaki Z900 and the Yamaha XSR900, while I never shortlisted the Z900RS. I picked the XSR, because it is so light and thus agile plus it comes along with a full range of gimmicks such as quickshifter, cruise control etc. I haven't regretted my choice a single instant yet.
Agree 100 I want a xsr not for the nostalgia but I reckon it looks sick, not a fan of the Mt look
If the bike pushes most of your buttons as you ride it, does it really matter what it looks like in your garage (or on the street corner?) There are some colors I would hesitate to purchase on a car/truck, but as I drive down the road, I rarely think about the color of my vehicle, just if its running ok... . Still, I know outward appearance has a factor for me in what decisions I make as to what I purchase. Just the way things can be ... .
@will M yeah really sick vommit
@will M If you are an American, you might not know that "sick" means "vomit" in the UK, so you set yourself up for an easy joke.
A big DUHH.....see my comment above re the ones that will buy the zed will tend toward vain and/or ignorant....well unless they have bucks for a whole stable of motorcycles.....other than that who would give up so so SO much in exchange for mere looks? Be like marrying a gorgeous model that had no personality, is dumb as a stump and nasty mean with no sense of humor and is high maintence .... how good would she keep looking then day after day if you knew you gave up less of a looker who had wonderful personality, funny, adorable, smart and rich...and how much better would SHE start looking every moment thereafter? And btw the Yammie might not be as cute on the surface but she is TRIM compared to porkypie over there ...lol and so much more fun to roll around with besides!
People who complain about Z900Rs not having quick shifter are just lazy only 10yrs ago none was available for street bikes and still not needed.It was designed for racing seriously on streets clutch is fine.About cruise control if I want a bike with CC I'll be buy a goldwing or sport tourer why would I buy naked for putting hundreds of miles in a day on highway? About mods? None needed.Have we become lazy? I enjoy riding a bike and have no time fiddling through menu just to get out garage....
Well said...
Word.
I think both bikes are going to please plenty of riders. The Yam will appeal to a younger, sportier rider with an appreciation of the retro vibe ( which is all the rage for the younger set ) , while the Zed will appeal to those that were actually there to remember and appreciate the charms of that era
I think your right, I’m of the z900 era, but still love the bite and more aggressive looks and ride of the XSR. The Kawa is a nod to that era, very nice, but having a sorta copy doesn’t appeal. I do have an original RD 2 stroke, the real deal. However, aren’t we lucky to have the choice !
Spot on. I bought the XSR because I wanted an MT09 but hated the look of it. I wasn't around for the 80s, nostalgia was not a factor. Japanese motorcycle design has really gone off the deep end in recent years, I think many of us simply appreciate anything that doesn't look like it came in a happy meal.
@@dsofe4879 Haha, like it came with a happy meal, that’s great ! The mt10 ? Looks are very subjective, but that triple motor in a light bike is amazing if you like a bike with a bit of edginess to it.
I still can’t believe Yamaha doesn’t have a Z900rs type seat available in their official Accessories. It makes no sense.
@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 There will be private companies making them. I took a (rd250) seat to an upholsterer and got them to put in new shaped foam and make a new cover with an old style cafe racer hump.
As the Z1000 was the first big bike I rode (a friend owned it actually, but he's too drunk to ride safely home from the club), the last bike I actually owned prior expatriating was the Z900, the purchase of my Z900 RS 2022 was a no-brainer.
Whether the Yammi might be better (in some minor aspects) than the Kwaki is of no concern at all to me 😁
I own the first generation of the XSR and tried the Z900. They are very different bikes, even more different than they look. The XSR is nimbler, lightier, more sporty and cheaper. The Z is more elegant, more classic and has higher quality perception. I would choose the Yamaha for the dynamics and the Kawasaki for the looks.
The xsr is pig ugly let's be honest and even though it's got the tech let's be honest it means nothing when you look back in the garage at it. The z900 is one of the best looking bikes around.
No competition looks wise, the Kawasaki is gorgeous. The Yam just isn't. I own the old XSR900 model but had it re-styled by Velocity Moto to give it the RD350LC look.
Yamaha have lost their way in the styling department but undoubtedly make fun, reliable bikes.
The yam looks dead sexy to me.
disagree on your assessment of the z900rs. It’s not lazy. It’s authentic. You cant discount it for being TOO genuinely retro when that’s its whole thing. It does it better than the yam considering it’s complete and not just dressing like the yammy. That said I wish that kawasaki had more options And models.
The Z900 looks nicer, but I'd have the the xsr900 over it - I like my bikes to do many things.....but they have to be engaging. Love Simon's reviews 👍
Wow, that dude is a Yamaha sale's man
I think you guys do not understand the Z900.
Christmas Eve 2023 Santa brought me a lime green 💚 kz 900 rs cafe , my dream bike . Shopped for a year test riding , every manufacturers " sport touring" bikes . Leaning toward retro performance oriented machines . My first ride on ZED , an it was love at first ride . This summer is my 42 nd year of riding . I'm siked an anches for spring.
Um...can I trade my Santa in for one of yours ?!
Psyched and anxious.
I have the cafe version and I love it.
@@jpbsv
About what?😂
Lmao just kidding. *psyched and *anxious of course. It kills me too. I am sorely vexed by how many teens and adults that post comments here as well as other sites with errors in grammar which my kids didn't make in 3rd grade. Homophones are apparently Kryptonite to those which were educated in US public schools. To/too/two and especially your/you're/yore make many folks look foolish whether they realize it or not...
I have a 2021 Z900RS and love it, it a great looking retro bike and the build quality is excellent. I think the XSR is more targeting the cafe racer brigade, so the styling just didn't appeal to me personally. Still, I am sure owners of either of these great bikes will be happy with their choice.
All I can is I’ve owned my Z900RS since 2018 and my heart still skips a beat when I open the garage door and see it there. It’s the Jaffa colour which is the best colour imo. I’ve done 26,000 kms on it and still enjoy everything about it. Yes, the OEM tyres are crap and I changed to Bridgetone S22 which transform the handling along with proper suspension setup. I guess the Yamaha is superior as far as rider aids go, I fitted a Translogic quickshifter to mine but it is upshift only. Personally I think the Yamaha looks ugly, but looks are subjective I guess. If I was getting a Yamaha it would be a 2022 MT10 SP. My Kawasaki is a keeper.
That xsr looks like it has a topbox on the seat.
I agree with you that the "candy red" as Kawasaki call it even though it's more orange than red is a beautiful bike that mimics the original Z1 perfectly.
Definitely subjective. I think the yamaha looks stunning. The z900 is lovely enough, i guess, but nothing bold or original in the looks depth, IMO.
@@SZA001 its obvious to me they were going for the same silotte as cafe racer or road racers with box tail section the riders seat is cut into .....but without at least a bolt on color matched hard shell hiding the pillion seat and creating a tail fairing effect it just does not jibe with anyone that missed what Yamaha was trying for....I'll be surprised if Yamaha or aftermarket does not very soon offer either a solo seat with box tail section or a cover that gives that effect....problem with those would be losing the pillion and not having a place to strap a seatbag too ...cause if the cover was painted you would probably not want to strap anything to it for fear of marring the finish
@@SZA001 To me it looks like Yamaha was simply mimicking the sillouette of an old road race bike as if it were a solo seat with a fiberglass cowl section the seat being cut into it ...but i dont think some people understand this and all they see is a wierd seat...Yamaha I think SHOULD have either provided a paint matched cover for the passenger seat to make it actually appear as a real solo seat OR more practically could have simply colored the seat covering back there to match the paint and graphics...speaking of which IF the bike were jet black it might be easier to understand and get
My z900rs gets people stopping and looking every time I take it out. And I don't stop smiling when I'm riding it. It's an absolute beaut. No question which is the better bike in my opinion.
@Ste Srad I thought that was obvious 🤣
That’s a daily occurrence on my Enfield Continental GT also. Coming in to year 4 of ownership and still adore it.
Antiques Roadshow gets an audience too ;)
@@tokyosmash too bad the Royal Enfield feels like a Huffy compared to the Kawasaki
The Yamaha is doing it’s own unique thing, with a retro vibe. The rs is just a wannabe sorta copy, trying to be something it’s not in a, I want an original but I can’t afford one kinda way. I really didn’t like the wide tank on the rs. Good to have the choices though.
Whilst working at a big dealership, everyone looked at the kwak and most walked past the yam paying it very little attention. I think that sums up their appeal. What would you prefer to see when you opened the garage door?
I agree with you😊
I think the Yamaha looks too modern and people who tend to buy this style of bike are looking for nostalgia which the Kawasaki has in spades
I'd prefer the Yamaha actually. Knowing I won't be looking at it from behind the bars, that is.
@@Mike-er7ym I believe it's called neo-retro. It has very little to do with nostalgia and more with reinterpreting retro styling in a modern way. Honda's done it successfully with their CB650R/CB1000R, so has Husqvarna with the Svartpilen and Triumph with the Trident. I don't understand why the XSR and the Z900RS are constantly lumped in with each other, they aren't at all in the same category, IMO. I own the Yamaha, I bought it purely because I wanted an MT09, but hated the bug-eyed cyclops look of it. I'm 29, I wasn't around for the 80s. No nostalgia involved. So far, the only people who have asked me about it or shown any interest were in their 20s and 30s. I'm sure that would be waaaay different on a Z900rs, I think Kawasaki is targeting a much older audience who are buying the bike for very different reasons.
I’m an older rider 62 so I remember the first Z1 in 1972 and the Kawasaki has captured the look very well 👌 so it would be the one I would choose 😁
I don’t particularly like the look of the New XSR900 (although it’s much nicer than the MT09!) but It will probably appeal to a younger demographic 😊
That being said I applaud Yamaha for making it for such an affordable price (£1000 less than the Kawasaki) especially with that brilliant engine and plethora of electronics including quick shifter and blipper …good job ☺️
The Kwak is nicer looking, is more comfortable, and sounds great. The yam is more like an 80's futuristic concept bike.
What is with the obsession of needing a quickshifter on a (pretend) retro bike? What happened to simple, back to basics riding? Same comment about cruise control....WHY?? How lazy do you want to be as a rider?
Here in the US, every one needs the latest tacticool part on their handgun. From the lastest light that will light your way to Mars or a red dot to fire at something 10 feet from you.
I love basics. Kaw all the way.
That’s it. I’m selling my lovely MT-07 for the XSR900. ❤
Cooling fins real or fake are never a bad thing
Hi guys, my wife has just bought me the kawasaki 9OORS se,Miles better than the standard one you rode, being of a certain age I remember the original one in 1973 I prefer the looks over the yamaha, I'm sure it's a lovely bike to ride but I have to think of my passenger's comfort, after all she did pay for it 😊
Keepers, the both of them!
You are right. 😊😊
The RS gets my vote of those two. My brother just got the 2019 grey/ green with the bikini fairing. Lovely retro.
Not a honest review/test! 80% Just Bad words for the Kawasaki.....Well....guess these guys are Yammie fanboys. 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for a great review. Interesting perspective on the Kaw's design brief: While I agree with it needing some tech updating - quick shifter, cruise at least! - the design to me is not to be a sort of "fake", but an embracing of the design aesthetic from that era that is, frankly, still quite attractive. It's not a hankering for something nostalgic. Nothing wrong with that. All said, though, I am not entirely sure these two would be seriously cross-shopped. Different use target, really, and I think they both hit their mark.
I bought the Z, and was in fact cross shopping the two, but in the end, I was after a true classic bike look and feel and the XSR just didn’t have it. But damn the tech and riding features sure are nice. Maybe just means I need both!
@@DeathComesSwiftly same. Got the z over the xsr because that xsr to be frank did not look anything classic to me except for its round headlight. It has way too much plastic on the outside. If I wanted an actual sport bike that “performs” like a monster on the road then I’d just get myself a proper sport bike but I just got the z because it truly resembled bikes from the past but with modern safety features that I would actually need on the street.
The Kawasaki is clearly the sexiest animal. Actually, it should be noted that Kawasaki owns 49 percent of Bimota. Where do you think that chassis came from? This Z900RS is a form of art. The Rolls Royce of Japanese bikes. The Bimota KB-2 that you would ride wearing a tux. I know...I own one.
not clear to me - a very nice looking bike - "sexy" - not so much, but that's what makes a horse race.
I tested the z900RS. Excellent riding position, even for my 6'5"frame. Outstanding build quality. Well behaved, I liked the need to wind it up. But powerful and sporty enough. I should've bought it, but as I was returning after injuries, I got a used, but nice V-Strom 650. As for the XSR, the looks have improved, the chassis is more sensible. It really didn't need more power though. Buying now I'd get the Kawasaki, but any of them are good for Sunday thrills and more.
I think that the typical R900RS customer would be older and say "why on earth do you need a quick-shifter?" On another recent article I responded to someone who asked that very question. They originally believed that young people were too stupid to properly use a clutch!
Shame the Yamaha is so ugly
I've been riding for 44 years, and have had 11 motorcycles. which includes 6 Yamaha's. I currently ride and travel on a 2013 Yamaha FJR1300a, which I bought used with 2832 miles on the clock, and that now has over 63,500 miles on.
I just absolutely am in love with my current Yamaha, and am considering getting an XSR as a second bike for having fun on.
It will be a sad day, one day when I'm too old to ride. Riding my FJR brings me absolute bliss, even when the weather is rainy, and I have to put on a rainsuit, the joy I get from riding my FJR is indescribable.
Looking at the horsepower to weight ratio of the XSR should give anyone an idea of what fun they're in for. 117 horsepower with a 425 pound chain driven bike, and a quick shifter is a recipe for ear to ear perma-grin. My FJR by comparison puts 127 horsepower down at the rear wheel, but weighs well over 600 pounds dry, and it's still a ball to open that throttle from a stop light and leave everything else in my mirrors. Plus the mid-range power on the inter-state highway here in the states always makes me smile. At 65 mph, no need to downshift to pass and get ahead of a group of cars. Just roll the throttle ever so slightly, and hold on, and literally in about 3 seconds you're approaching the triple digit mark. Remind me to send a love letter to Yamaha.
I do have to say Bennet that this XSR reminds me of one of my past rides, and that was an RD400. Light, zippy, and flickable.
I am in my early 60''s and currently have a 2019 Gen 3 FJR1300 - great bike - bags of power everywhere and does everything effortlessly. I also had an RD400 which I bought in 79 - it was an absolute hooligan bike. I'd also like to get something a bit smaller just for shorter rides. I like the Triumph T100/T120/Speed Twin and was also looking at a Z900RS . . . . but this Yamaha now has my interest.
Trying to say the Yamaha, in any way, looks better than the Kawi makes no sense to me. Mentioning the build quality of the Yam without mentioning the loose cables running up to the bars that look like they are wrapped in electrical tape? The headlight that looks like a poorly chosen aftermarket part? Agree with most of the rest of what was said. Still, these bikes ARE about looks and I guess it's subjective in the end.
100% agree headlight on Yamaha is parts bin hideous unit.Tail section weird as well.
Yamahas exhaust makes me ill too.
If only the Yamaha didn’t look awful 🤷🏼♂️
Kawasaki are just lazy, I own a 2018 z900rs and every year I wait for the new bike and all they do is wheel out the same old bike in a different colourway, they could easily update the electronics, add cruise, quckshifter IMU etc.. without compromising the gorgeous looks.
I suppose you could put your name down for the Z900RS SE with the Ohlins suspension and Brembo brakes, but they are pretty hard to get. Personally I think they look a bit gaudy with the gold forks and rims and yellow tank, I prefer my 2018 Jaffa.
The SE is just color and suspension differences, nothing else is different
@@gm16v149 just aftermarket suspension and brakes on the same bike, I could do that myself. I think Kawasaki should have updated it by now.
The Yammy looks revolting. The Kwak looks perfect. No brainer as far as styling goes...........
Shame the yamaha slays it in functionality becUse i agree the kawi looks soo much better
Are you 90 years old?
It's definitely that the Yamaha XSR900 2022 is a better tech because its a model changed from the previous model. I mean the Z900rs remains the same since 2018... The XSR is already a second generation. Fair enough to win this competition. I like the xsr900 2022 too.
Therefore if you compare 900rs to XSR900 2018... Kawasaki is a clear winner i believe.
Great review by the way.
Thank you guys!!! I just picked up my XSR 900 on Monday....loved it from the first second. The ergonomics are just on point for me (176cm). Can`t wait to feel the pure power after 1000km 🙂. I drove the MT09 last year to see if I lke the CP3...and the CP3 is exactly how you guys described it...engaging and thrilling !! The chassis is so agile and light to handle like a bicycle. Up to now I had a YZF750 which is already a nice handling bike from the 90`s but nothing to compare to the XSR. I like the Z too but I have been always Yamaha guy and for that price a bargain. Cheers from Hamburg Germany
Good choice! Just get a few mods done starting with a proper tail tidy and you got yourself a real stunner with amazing agility in the twisties 😉🏁🏁
@@SirMountainpass Tail tidy will be done this week ! 😉CHEERS!
@@SirMountainpass how have you found the quick shifter.
I had a test ride and it was a bit clunky on the downshifts. Any tips to make it smoother
Am I the only person who has ridden the MT-09, XSR900, and Tracer 9, but just doesn't feel all of the swooning that the motojournos do over that motor?
Ha ha these guys you have to look pretty to be a good bike ,they sound like Harley riders, look at me ,look at me
My 1st 2 bikes were a Z1 and KZ (before I was even licensed), so I'm definitely partial. Hell, I still have my Z1, KZ750 and Z750E. But that aside, I'm not bothered by the price difference because the Kawasaki will hold its value better and will without a doubt keep its appeal much longer. The Kawasaki will age like a leather saddle, while the Yamaha will age like cheap leather jacket. The Kawasaki will gain character while the Yamaha will just get used and old.
As I had many motorbikes in the 70s, my last one being a Kawasaki Z1000, I would choose the Z900 RS.
That yammy is just so ugly, I’d have the z900 all day, proper retro with modern twist.
Kwaka all the way beautiful looking bike and has a oem bikini screen that can be fitted, I'm a bit biased as I have a fruited up zrx1200r that is proper old school but would eat both these bikes. The XSR looks confused they haven't got the styling quite rite it's a bit meh.
From the description and review of the Yamaha, it begs the question; why compare it to the retro Kawasaki? In the Yamaha you’ve described a modern motorcycle with no retro features or appeal whatsoever. From what you’ve described, the Yamaha should be compared to a modern motorcycle. It seems like Yamaha - and the reviewer - missed the whole point.
The Yamaha is a brilliant bike & the tester clearly loved it. But, unfortunately, this appears to have caused him to totally miss the point in relation to the Kawasaki & what it is all about. To be moaning about the lack of a quickshifter on the Z900RS, is hilarious...
The Zeds the smarter suit but the Yam gets the job.
Jee. Said
I have ridden both and I can guarantee you, both are about the same speed. The Yamaha is more agile but uncomfortable, you notice it after 1 hour. The Kawasaki is massively more comfortable but also more expensive (Switzerland). Nevertheless, every time my XSR-900 friends get on my Z900RS, they want to ride my bike for the whole tour... I leave it up to you to decide what this means. In the end, everyone has to find the right bike for themselves.
XSR900 next to gorgeous Z9000RS is butt ugly. Tail section weird doesn't flow and that hideous headlight is just ugly.Looks cheap like from budget bucket bin.Great engine but everything else looks kind of designed by a drunk.
Asking for a quick shifter on a retro bike that’s designed to take you decades back as safely as possible is beyond dumb.
Never heard anyone put down the z900rs. Weird . Where the Yamaha looks like a crap sports bike and confused with its own looks. If it's a representation of a 80's bike then it should not a crap looking modern sports bike.
Great head to head. Certainly has made me take a second look at the XSR (which I really didn’t like the look of at first, but it is now growing in me). My last bike was a Z900rs and I chose it because I felt it was more “authentic” than a Speed Twin! Interesting that Simon felt the XSR is similarly more authentic or maybe genuine than the Z is. I was tempted to get another Z900RS but I think I’m going to have to give the Yamaha a try! Thanks for the tip!
In the same boat as you. I have the 50th anniversary Zed, but the XSR is slowly growing on me
@@DeathComesSwiftly I even thought about trying to get an RS SE, but when I look at the price (compared to the XSR) and what you get for your money the Yamaha seems to make more sense. I had an XSR700 when they first came out and it was a fun bike. I expect that the 900 is even more so…….. 👍
Yes it's odd, some people seem to look at the z900rs as an attempt to replicate the Z1 - and some then go on further to bemoan the lack of twin suspension and 4-4 pipes - whilst others (including me) see it as a 'retro' that isn't trying to be a replicate, rather, simply adopt strong styling cues in a modern dress - and prefer it that way. It's not trying to do what Triumph does with a number of their modern classics.
Ultimately we have to have an emotional connection with our bikes, and whereas I quite fancy the RD style xsr which speaks more to my era, I can't get over the looks of the new one, despite the bike being more fun than the zed in other respects. I kinda felt that Adam, more than Simon, was speaking as much from an emotive perspective as from a technical perspective, and was perhaps unduly harsh on the zed!
I'd be happy with either, love the look of the 900RS but with the XSR I prefer the looks of the older model despite it's short comings and with the Velocity Moto LC kit it looks fantastic.
Exactly 👍 I own a Velocity Moto XSR900/LC900. Love it, certainly turns heads.
@@Banditmanuk I need to do some saving..
The previous gen xsr looks very masculine and tough. The current gen looks like a ladybug and the build quality looks like it came from a factory for cheap toys in china with all that matte plastic shit.
Hasnt updated itself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its a bloody retro mate!! Who employes you cos you aint no good at what you do. This is nonsense!!
Good test except for the bellyaching about the quick shift. The Z1 didn't need one, and neither does the Z900RS. I have the Z900 (2021) and don't have nor want a qs.
Hear hear
I'm a long term Yamaha man but just on looks I'd go for the Z. I never really saw the xsr as being retro. Just a variation on the mt09/ tracer platform. As said the dash on the xsr looks small and I prefer the twin clocks look. I did try the old xsr that belonged to a mate and found it felt quite small, but then I am 6'2".not fussed about quick shifters, abs, traction control or any of that other stuff and if I had it it would probably just get left on one setting and I guess I wouldn't be the only one to do that.
The Yamaha looks more like a toy and looks plastic and for a kid.
The Kawasaki looks grown up and for a gentleman.
The Kawi definitely has the looks. When it comes to old guys like me looks comes first and everything else comes there after.
Those were top two for my future bike. And this video confirmed everything I was thinking about, Z900RS is my next bike.
This is subjective to what they like . 😏
LOL! Sounds more like a Yamaha commercial than a comparison! And with good reason. I love the "looks" of the kawie...but my coin went for the performance and fun oriented XSR900. I love it! No regrets. Do it!
I totally agree. They slam the RS.
Loved your quote at the two thirds point as it's the most accurate thing you say in the whole vid: " I sound like an advocate for Yamaha" Uh ya!! Yikes, every positive of the Kawi is skimmed over and every Yamaha moment is the second coming. Get a room already. 50 disappointments for Kawi, not a single positive until your co-host finally drags you into some concessions. And the Kawi is "fake" because it tries harder to be the bike it represents while the Yamaha is "more honest" because it does next to nothing to recreate the experience and look. Which one is the truer Retro? The Yamaha??? Let's be accurate: The Kawi is a stunner for looks and the Yami is easily one of the ugliest bikes I have ever seen. You could put any motor, any tech bit, anything on that conglomeration and you'd still never see me on it. You chose performance on a retro comparison. Surely I could go out and compete on a modern offering with all the tech bits from any of the other manufacturers against the Yamaha. Am I buying a Retro to get a modern bike?
The old xsr looked nice the new ones a mess. Kwak thrashes it on looks now.
I love the Kawasaki looks wise, it’s just perfect. I’m a first gen xsr900 owner, so I prefer mine, but the new one has some nice features, especially cruise control. 👍🇨🇦🤪
Dont sell ur xsr for the current gen. Ugly ass bike.
Neither are fast - why take the uncomfortable option? I like the looks of the Kawasaki - reminds me of the Z1 I never had.
The Kawasaki is gorgeous and I certainly wouldn't mind one. The Yamaha is amazing and I want one.
The yamaha is a great bike but not a fan of the looks, the z900 rs looks amazing.
I bought a Zed - the Yammie is seriously fugly.
whats with the yeah yeah yeah all the time !!!
Lol I was going to comment the same thing haha.
Love the idea of both these bikes but I think the Kawasaki is absolutely stunning and would look best in my garage.
It does look good but is a lesser bike in every other way, aside from price.
@@boomerisadog3899 That is just a matter of opinion, just as looks.
Nice review guys 👍. I love the look of the Kaw. It is in looks exactly what I remember (sort of) from my 1985 Honda CB650SC. Loved that bike. The Yamaha may be better techniqal wise, less weight, more HP, better suspension out the door, and less cost. BUT better in looks? Oh no, it’s as butt weird looking (to me) as BWM’s overdone boxer 1800 is. Who comes up with these designs? Not a 67 year old fart like me… ha ha. To each their own. Would I purchase a Z900? Hmmm no wind protection at all is a tall hurdle to jump if you’re going to do any touring as far as I can see. It’s an in town bike, 2-20 miles only, for both of em. Oh course, you couldn’t pay me to buy that Yamaha, it is so NOT the look I would pay money for, ugh!! Thanks for the great review of both.
A quickshifter would spoil the z900rs to a degree. The whole point is to get the experience of a classic bike but have modern reliability and performance.
I am a bit biased because i have a 74 Z1 and think it still a beauti , IMO the RS blows the XSR into the weeds in the looks dept ...That being said that Yamaha is pretty cool in other chunky ways and if tech is your smile than its the one .
Got my XRS900 in September and bought it after watching Chads launch review. His little face couldnt stop smiling. I had ridden the Kawasaki previously and loved it but I didnt want one where I wanted the XSR. I have no complaints with my choice.
-the yam looks wank
I can totally agree with thoughts on Z900RS. I was in love with this bike when it came out but in my country the price is even higher and to be honest it really lacks features comparing to yama. Q&D would be nice but since it has one of the most comfortable seats on the market, cruise control could be a very useful addon. Display is outdated (but really like those analogue dials ❤). and they making bike more expensive every year without changes (i know that everything is getting more and more expensive). Chassis and brakes are also worse but I could definitely live with it since I am not planning to take it on track days 😊 Right now the price in my country is 13300 vs 10500 GBP against Kawa so even if you love the style there is much to think because you are choosing much more expensive bike with worse performance and features🤔
Really like these comparison reviews. Been riding since the early 70's and thought I'd go for the Kawasaki. But watching this makes me realise the Yamaha would be more fun. It's that triple engine, sounds great and has character.
In my country the z900rs is currently sold for 8580 pounds converted and the xsr is at 10300 converted. Guess its a no brainer here.
XSR900 will be my next bike and I'm buying the racer kit for it with the front cowl, it looks insanely good
Great review. I really like your style of reviews. I must say the Yamaha is an ugly looking bike and I see no need for all the electronics, just more to fail in the future. If you are doing a retro bike at least make it nice to look at like the Kawasaki.
The real difference.... you can go buy a z900rs ...... you will find a yeti on the beach before you find an xsr900 in a showroom......
I chose the Z900RS over the XSR, even though the Yammie out-specs the Kawa. The Yammie was just too fugly for me..
The Yam looks just like a modern day bike and looks crap, the exhaust is a disgrace and looks discoloured to hell and knackered. The Kawasaki is much smarter not as good looking as the original but much better looking than the Yam.
That Yamaha MIGHT be modern & trick but to me it looks "A$$hole Butt Ugly" - That headlight, those brackets URGH
Bizarrely that Kawasaki tank badge (plastic made to look metal) is EXACTLY the same as my then 'new' Z.1000-J
I want the XSR 900 GP version it looks amazing with the fairings
Me too especially if they make the ‘young machine’ twin headlight blue and yellow version, that custom build looked incredible. Rode an xsr900;today ticked so many boxes. Just not quite there on the looks.
You guys obviously preferred the Yamaha and on specs and price it's probably the better buy, but I'm obviously an old fart and for me I'd buy the Kawasaki any day. It's just a lovely looking machine whereas to me the XSR is one ugly lookin fecker and I'm not a big of TFT screens and all the riding modes etc.
you guys do some of the best most helpful, informative sitting in the saddle reviews on the web. Thank you! for me the xsr900 is the right balance with a nod to retro looks combined with tip-top latest performance features
Trying to be a bike from the late seventies!, but isn’t that the point, it’s a retro and my it looks good, the Yamaha is probably the better machine but for the looks stop my wallet . Do you find the same ‘fakery’ in Royal Enfield, Triumphs, in fact all other standard style bikes , so really you’re saying you only think the latest design is real. Really, but I guess you work for dealer so the idea is to sell bikes .
I need to see a video road test of three bikes - MT07 vs Hornet 750 vs GSX8S when possible. Thanks for the great videos.
Great review! I'm definitely short-listing the XSR900 for my second bike. It sounds perfect for what I'm looking for.
Thanks! Do let us know what you go for. Be great to hear your thoughts.
Kawasaki looks the best but I agree Xsr is the better bike
I think that Yamaha tried to look retro but they just didn't get it right. I don't know about anybody else but I like even numbers I don't want some three-cylinder engine