Interestingly, I rode the new XSR900 and MT10 SP (new gen) the same day back to back. MT10 SP was first and I noticed it was massively better than the old gen. For reference, I test rode the old gen twice and didn't like it at all. The new gen has much better tech, cool intake noise, comfortable, SP suspension felt good, up/down quickshifter was nice but still felt heavy and cumbersome to me. Hopped on the XSR900 and everything felt tighter and more direct. More playful, less bulky, still very comfortable, stock exhaust has a nice note to it, tech just as good as the MT10, and I liked the look better. Outside of the additional power and possibly a little more comfort for long distance touring, I saw no reason to go for the MT10 over the XSR900.
XSR isn't under-powered. And with that bombshell: money is saved on tires, insurance, fuel, oil, potentially service costs. I bet some aftermarket upgrades are going to cost less, like a header pipe. There's about one 1L naked bike that rides the ragged edge of diminished returns for cost, that being the GSX-S1000. Everything else (MT-10, etc) cost a LOT more to get that 5%-of-the-time thrill when the cops aren't looking.
I have an xsr700 and I absolutely love it. I would have to go with the xsr900 because that's my style of styling for a bike. I also love the way the triple sounds.
@@keithquinn5624 frame and suspension on newest Gen is leeps and bounds above even Gen 2. I had a 2020 and it was squirrely in the corners. Plus two words, cruise control.
XSR 900 has my vote. The lack of wind protection on a naked bike doesn’t bother me unless I do more than 20 mins on the highway. Which isn’t where I want to ride regardless of wind protection. Multi day trips with my buddies where we spend most of our day between 30-80mph on back roads, I’ve never wished I had wind protection. I ride a Triumph Speed Twin 1200 and I ride it rather spiritedly (Ohlins suspension helps).
Speed twin is more money than xsr900 ı know different style ı like both bike but Yamaha gives you too much thing for money... triumph give you style and big low tourque...what do you think ? Which one is attractive and playful...
2023 Blue XSR here.. Thrilled with mine.. went Big Bagger for a few years, so great to be on such an agile and quick bike! The Engine/Frame integration is total genius.. a glorius chunk of black. No Fins.. 3 cylinders is narrower than 4.. very compact.. just about perfect. My 3 cylinder 2 cycle H2 was wider with the fins. A 4 cylinder was very wide with fins. The Quick Shifter really is Yamaha's crowning achievement here. This is the "App" like adaptive cruise control and lane keeping. Absolute perfection. automatic transmissions in performance cars are OBSOLETE now. The new mustang has "Rev Matching", but you STILL use the Clutch! Totally missed the boat.. For sure requires a new manual transmission, but we don't need no stinkin' over complicated Dual Clutch crap. Easy half a second in the quarter (In a car).
Mannn I feel that, I landed on the XSR after test driving everything else in it's category. After a disappointing ride with the Thruxton RS, I couldn't stop thinking about the XSR. It's my rider life now 😎
That QShifter makes another Sale! The Twins are Thumpy.. not very rev happy like the triple. Somebody needs to do a test in the quarter mile.. the QS has to be worth half a second? Some transmissions can't be shifted very fast to boot. How does the XSR900 w/QS match a liter bike without?
@@markhall3434 quick shifters imho are a matter of convenience more than anything unless you're doing some serious competitive racing. Anything that is not a liter bike is not going to compare to a liter bike, they are made completely differently from ergonomics to engine and throttle design. If you're doing track days for fun the XSR is nice to get out on and open up, but that is about it. You can ride it fairly aggressively, but if you're going harder why not get the MT or something designed for racing instead?
@@That1J1 we agree to disagree! QS as good as the XSR is worth trading in a liter bike without for. NOBODY shifts as fast as the XSR QS. XSR W/QS might beat a typical liter w/o QS to 120MPH . I'D be interested in the results. Prove me wrong!
Heavier & more stable really is the bottom line. I first rode my 2020 mt10 and was amazed @ how smooth & comfortable it is! Then I started exploring that engine! Eargasmic! Totally! I have a Yosh can on it and am putting a link pipe on with a 2wdw flashed ecu! Can't effin'wait! You should keep both,that 900 is a loker!
Great video and thoughts, as usual! The windscreen on the MT-10 and the storage are game changers. I love the looks of the XSR, but for a daily rider I'd agree that the MT-10 is the way to go.
Daily driver.. you are not gonna do 100kms a day unless you work far and weather related well you dont go biking on rainy days so its not like a car..theres is no daily bike imo
I have your bike’s “Dad”, the 2nd gen FZ1. Has 90k miles and I beat it hard, never misses a beat. Going to rebuild an engine/tranny then add a supercharger instead of getting a new bike. I already had to replace the frame so we’re bonded by blood sweat and tears now lol can never sell her, but I love the mt-10… except the way it looks. To me it’s the biggest tragedy in motorcycles
Great comparison Chase. Its good to see two different bikes being discussed and compared. Too often Reviewers only compare bikes in the identical class. I was looking at an MT10 or a Ducati Supersport 950s completely different machines. was a hard choice and I still wish I had both!
OC: Get a polarised sheet for your screen man. I have the gen 2MT09 and yeah screen does look like an old game boy. But there's alot of options with polarised sheets and you can make that screen look alot better!!
I like both bikes, and decided the XSR was a better choice for me. I have the FJR1300 for touring and commuter when needed. So a sporty, around town and weekend blasts w/friends seems the logical way to go w/ this new gem. IF, I didn't have the bigger bike also? Probably would've went w/ the MT10.
The #1 selling point of the mt10 is the high speed stability. I hated my fz07 on the highway, but the mt10 is rock solid at speed. Bike literally never feels unpredictable.
I couldn’t agree more. I have a 2023MT 10 and since I’m still breaking it in I haven’t had it over 80 maybe 85 mph on the highway but holy shit it is so rocksolid even at those speeds I’m sure it’s really good all the way up into the triple digits. I met a guy a couple weeks ago and he said it starts feeling kind of light around 130 mph. I’ll take his word for it because I’ll probably never have it up to 130. 105 may be 110 miles an hour That’s about as fast as I have ever gone on any of my bikes
I have owned my stock MT10 for nearly 2 years and absolutely love it, been a massive seller for Yamaha here in the UK, however as you stated the lighter flickable XSR 900 is on my wish list think it may be more suited to my riding ability, tough decision would be nice to have both lol, Cheers Chase.
Just bought a brand new XSR900, but I would have loved to test drive the MT-10 to feel the difference. I can’t speak to which one I would prefer but coming from a 1000cc BMW (RnineT), I absolutely LOVE the XSR900!
I have never owned a motorcycle with a windscreen. I figure as long as I keep it that way, I won't know what I'm missing and can continue long-hauling naked bikes.
I wouldn’t let my MT-10 go anytime soon. But I do like the looks of this XSR. Maybe after a year when more custom parts are available or is been tested more, I’ll consider check a trade. For now I’ll keep my MT-10 :). Thank you for posting this kind or reviews man, it does helps us riders to keep up with models and gives us enough info to have conversations about it. Keep posting them brotha
OC. I'm going to spin it a little different and say that the tracer 9GT plus is a mashup of the two. I would already have one on order if they weren't so damn expensive. Bigger tank for touring, cruise control, heated grips, windshield. All the good stuff and the CP3 is plenty of power.
I wanted to like the Tracer. Then I felt like they took an MT-09, threw away 90% of it, and put the CP3 into a massive, heavy, complex, too-touring and not-enough-sport result. Oh it's good. It's sporty. It's quick. But compared to its naked bones, it's quite a bit muted. I was hoping for a Yamaha version of a MV Agusta Tourismo Veloce. A light, sporty, leg-room, more comfortable, more distant capable 85% MT-09 with identical horsepower. It's not. It's like a MT-09 trying to out-FJ the FJ1300.
The Xsr900 has a really nice clean, oldschool look. It is so sexy. The new xsr900 GP with the front cowl looks absolutely amazing and I love the sound of the 3 cylinder reving up.
Had 2 MT10"s (The first was a 2020 that was) stolen) Got a 2021 MTo9 and sold it at 600 miles. I put heated grips and small wind screens on all of them. I liked the sound and power of the MT10, and the way it runs the twisteys . And the fact that you can get a comfort seat makes it so much better for the longer two or three day rides. I recomend gettting a 20170thru 2022 MT10 (and putting on a shift tech auto blipper) is the way to go.
If the small screen, scroll wheel and lack of wind protection (c'mon, it is a naked btw 😂) are all you can fault with the XSR, I"d say that's a very very positive review!
MT 10 all the way. I just picked my MT 10 up last week it’s a 2023 model. I rode it last year at the Yamaha demo and fell in love with it. I traded in my 2021 Kawasaki Z 900 RS café that’s how much I loved the MT 10
Never had the MT-10, but as far as MPG on the CP4, I averaged beter MPGs on a ford F-150 than on my R1M. as far as the looks of the XSR900... that blue paint is amazing! I rode one for a bit, and it is a great bike, and it has such an unique sound! and that blue color with the gold is just perfect for it. OC I"d choose the XSR any day, though between that and a Street Tripe RS... That is a much harder choice.
OC. Great pick. It is hard to beat everything the MT-10 offers... aside from MPG, but the smiles is more than worth a fuel stop every 100 miles. I tour and camp off my 2017 FZ10. No wind screen and it is amazing!!! Keep up the great content, Chase.
Entertaining video! You're right about that cross plane being one of the best sounding bikes, BUT the Aprilia RSV4 is the best sounding. 😁 Keep up the good work!
I bought the new gen '21 mt09 last year and then found a screaming deal on a '18 mt10, you know how that goes. I can't keep them both, VERY tough decision but I'm leaning towards the mt10. I watched till the end, I think you've helped me make my decision.
MT10 has the best of everything i possibly need ina motorcycle, power, agility, configurability, easy to service, easy to understand, never suprises you. I think yamaha's one of the best creations, that i will only upgarde to 2022/23 model, maybe.
I have this exact same 22 XSR900, and while I haven't had any issues with the scroll wheel or dash, the very short fork lock is the only thing I don't like about this bike. It is without a doubt my dream bike in every other way, and like you with your MT10, it totally revitalized my love of riding after 10 years. I've had two '07 SV650's, a '20 Vstrom (650), and a '98 DL650, so the move to the XSR was a huge one for me. Can't wait for the after market to spark up, but for the time being MOST of the stuff that fits an MT09 also fit the XSR900. And then there's tons of universal fit stuff out there for the little mods.
i agree the scroll wheel on xsr900 is a nightmare, but it doesnt affect the look or the riding. it wont affect your choice of motorcycle. set your settings and you never have to use it again. love my xsr900 -22 and i cant find more "bang for the buck" on the market today. I tried the mt-09....no, no and no. If they made a zx750 -92 with better engine and everything modern like the xsr900 then maybe....if you dont like xsr900 in the naked bike category then you are probably more into sportsbikes or touring bikes. It is a top contender for sure for the price you pay. If i had a "no limit budget" i might go for some ducati with 200hp but I'll look like a clown when a better rider pass me on a slower bike. You cant buy riding skills but you can learn them over time.
OC; Chase complains about both dashes. Audience: What the hell do you want? Me: He wants a Ducati. Admit it, if you could afford it you would own a Ducati.
Depends on use and conditions but ive ridden both and im going with xsr.. the newer models have everything i want and since my new commute is about 20miles shorter each way, i can stop worrying about the smaller tank and lack of wind protection
I have lusted after the XSR900 as soon as I saw it. I got to sit on one at my local dealer recently, and I love it even more except for the seat. I don't mean looks as I think it looks great on that bike. It's the comfort I didn't like it was lime sitting on a piece of plywood. I would love to ride one I just haven't had the chance yet.
Having owned many heavy big engined bikes over many years when you ride a lightweight machine everything just feels better, easier, more fun. XSR gets my pick.
OC: I am facing a similar dilemma, I am thinking of getting the new MT10 over my 2016 XSR900 60th. If Yamaha ever decides to release a XSR1000 I would put a deposit down the next day.
My BMW F900R has the best TFT of any of the bikes I have seen. I love the jog wheel screen control setup on my left hand side and don't think I would like it at all on the throttle side.
I'm so glad I picked my 2020 Mt10 dark knight edition abs. Thanks for video. Made me feel allot better about my choice 3 yrs ago. B safe but .....when in doubt tach it out.
Ive ridden both of them, and own a MT10.. I wouldn't give it up for anything. XRR and MT09 feel like toys to me not as serious as the MT10. That moto GP sound is second to none... Can't go wrong with either. I've owned almost every liter bike out there and needed something similar to that feel. I don't care about electronics and turn them all off with the exception of the quick shifter.
I had a 10 for two plus years and it’s one of the best bikes I’ve owned. My xsr900 is highly modified, and though it’s 5 years old, I wouldn’t trade it for any bike. The only thing the new one has that I find interesting is cruise. I have that with my tracer, so….
What a great video, very informative. I do think bikes are subjective I prefer the XSR-900 I have one on order in black and I can’t wait to get it mid august!!
I have the FZ-10 and I want the XSR 900 so I'm glad you made this video. Some the things you stated on the video were right on the money, but the brakes on the FZ/MT are horrible. I leaning towards getting the XSR 900 because I personally like a lighter bike, but I don't think I'm ready to give up my FZ just yet. I guess I will get a windscreen and upgrade the brakes and keep rolling and get the XSR 900 in the future!
OC: I think you nailed it when you said (in essence not verbatim) the day to day usage a heavy bike just feels better than something that is lighter. if I wanted a fun weekend thing then the xsr 900 is what I would go for.. but the bigger bike yes. as for the Gas mileage on the MT10 that is something one can not only get used to but figure the sweet spot on a LONG long trip. anyway MT10 for me if I had to choose just between those two.
For you and your current situation I can see why keeping your MT10 makes the most sense. Depending on what you end up doing with your ADV bike plans could change the situation though. If you end up with and ADV bike that has good weather protection and highway comfort then the XSR or some other smaller more sporting bike would be a better fit for you.
I knew you would stick with the MT10. I would have done the same. The ergos, engine, practicality and sound win it for me hands down. Good video. Keep up the good work. 👊🏿✌🏿👍🏿
Great review video I appreciate this and the comparison I’ve been strongly looking at an MT 09 but you have convinced me I need to look at other aspects instead of falling in love with a bike for it looks
I currently own a 22’ z900 and am going to try and pick up a mt10 next season if possible! Can’t wait. Won’t sell the z900 tho, sentimental value is too high.
If you had picked the XSR 900 over the MT-10, I was going to point out that it wasn't fair comparing a 2019 Yamaha MT-10 to a 2022 Yamaha XSR 900 because there have been many improvements on the 2022 MT-10 over the 2019. However, you picked it anyway....have you thought about getting a new MT-10 (maybe even the SP) and moving the parts over from your 2019?
I want to ride one of these so bad, coming from a mt-10 but haven't had it for a handful of years, haven't ridden since I sold it. This bike is beautiful. Big fan of the Z900 as well. Wonder if the Z900 cafe would compare, don't think you mentioned it.
Whilst the Z900 is heavy, it looks awful. No fancy electronics which most nakeds have now, its expensive, and doesn't compete with the likes of the MT09 SP, 890R and 765RS. The RS Z900 is only really for poodleling around on, very under powered, in4 is lack luster and no modern amenities. For me, the 1200 Speed twin was a better bike than the Z900 RS.
@@inked-96 is there no head to head for these two bikes? There's no way I believe the Z900 doesn't compete with the mt-09. Doesn't the Z make more on paper so even if it's heavier it should make for somewhat of a even playing field. As far as the looks I guess to each their own, I love the looks and I'm not the only one who thinks that. One of my best friends got a naked Z900 because it looks so good to him.
@PDillz MT09 is a better bike. Don't get me wrong, the z900 is good but inline 4's are dying and have been for years. Z900 doesn't come with most modern amenities like quickshifter up n down, corner abs, cornering traction control, no decent suspension, no cruise control and yet still demands a high price... it's one of the heaviest in it's class, it's near on a 1000cc not a 900, it's not a middleweight bike... 765RS 890R Mt09/SP Are all better bikes and similarly priced if not cheaper. What you get with the Z900 is reliability and aggressive looks.. that's about it. If im paying 13k for a bike, I expect it to compete with the competition which it doesn't.
@PDillz z900 makes 125hp and 98nm. 210kg. MT09 SP is 193KG, 118hp and 92nm. I always found a triple to be a happy medium. I'm just basing my opinion. We ride what we like... no one makes a bad bike, just some are better than others in our own view. Have a good day.
I own a 22 MT 10, which has the electronic goodies and that big, bad ass motor, set up for sport touring with a flash and link pipe. I will take that over the xrs900 any and every day. XRS is a very nice ride, but can’t really compare to the MT.
With your MT10 as you wish, and it has a quick shifter.. you got to go MT10.. If it didn't have the QS, might be a different decision. A Quick Shifter is the VVT of DOHC, gotta have it. Cruise control to boot, but not a big deal for me.
I like both bikes but I think the mt10 is a step above the sxr besides the screen but 2023 mt10 sp looks freaken awesome if I could afford another bike that’s what I would get
The travel of the wheel is designed so that you need to rotate your hand just a hair backward to have your press in line with the wheel. Yamaha did this on purpose for safety reasons. If you press it not lined up with the action of the button you’ll roll it every time!
I have a new xsr900, with a tune, full exhaust, and filter, it's running 130bhp. With the additional weight saving over an MT10, which is around 20kg, and 25hp difference, it makes for a more enjoyable bike for me personally. The only thing i like about the MT10 is its engine but couldn't ever buy one due to it's god awful looks.
I've got the 2019 MT-10 I bought it used with 10K miles some luggage windscreen heated grips I've only had it for a week now but boy it just rips the freaking corner so well and I'm on the fence of decading it because I don't know is that a cop magnet
I currently ride a Harley Sport Glide. But I miss the different riding style my Street Triple had. Plus I don’t know if Forward controls are for me. It’s comfortable, but makes my inner thighs hurt. Now!! Harley have come a long way. The upside down forks on my bike make it SO much more “flickable” than other Harleys. That being said. I think I would choose the MT-10 as well. Just the versatility alone would probably sway me. I also do not enjoy a twitchy throttle, but could get used to it I guess. I like the Speed Triple and the BMW 1000 S as well though.
I am a owner of mt 07 and i am thinking xsr 900 is better looking of mt 09 2022 and better performance from mt 09 2020.. so xsr 900 it will be a perfect choice... Mt 10 is a quite big and a lot powerful for every day!!
OC. Current 22 xsr900 owner. Love the bike. Think the name is too much. Xs9 or Sr9 would've been ideal. Never considered the MT. I was a fan of transformers too, the original animation and toys, not the live action cgi atrocities. I'm also a generation out on understanding the appeal of Pokémon so neither screen really appeals. Would've preferred a square / round offset combo to keep the early 90s aesthetics, show digi menus and a big sweeping needle, plus it would help fill the weird gap between it and the headlight, that is awesome but the lens seems like its a half size too small. If it had two like my 99 speed triple, or if it had a chrome beauty ring around the edge that might help. The black surround does some optical shrinkage illusion i think. I do kind of enjoy the white to green to orange tach sweep though so I'll manage. I don't get the jog wheel hate but youre not the only person to mention it so my hands must just be weird. I was disappointed you didn't mention gas mileage on the SR9 as a positive or negative in comparison to the MT. I seem to burn through tanks fast, but I don't know if its just me. Great videos.
I was so so tempted to get the MT10 but doing touring i went with the MT09SP and was still happy with my choice but its a nice comparison and fuel range was important in my choice too as found that i got over 200 miles out of my MT09 in the end be interested on how far could get with MT10
God I hated the scroll wheel on my 2021 mt09 so much at first. It got better but I still never do it, but I just am a minimalist when it comes to using electronics on a motorcycle anyway
XSR all the way. Now if I could only find one that's not marked up by like 6k. I just can't do the MT looks. I must be some sort of weirdo but I couldn't care less about what type of display the bike has, I'm never looking at the thing.
I got mine for the same reason. Wanted an MT, but couldn't deal with the stupid bug-eyed cyclops look. Took 3 months to get an XSR, but the bike was well worth the wait. I have no idea why availability is still so bad, doesn't seem to be the case for the MT... I hope you find one, good luck👍
I'm always wary about electronics faith. No matter how much fancy electronics you've got, if you hit an oily or dirty turn the bike just goes and bye bye... (xsr900 Legend Blue owner 😄)
Stole every word out my mouth! Especially at the end, where you talk about riding through every season and situation with your 10. 30k and almost four years of ownership and I can’t believe how much I still love it. Perfect? Nope, but it’s got charisma and a fun factor that endears it to your heart. It’s my bike-wife. I’ve spent time on an MT-09 SP, and as great as that bike is, it doesn’t even come close…
Get a Tracer9GT, Chase.. ;-) It has CP3, it has that prolonged swing arm, it keeps a bit of that transformers style and it's completely made for travelling.. I have bought one and I'm absolutely happy with it.. It checks all the checboxes I ever wanted a bike to check.. :-)
I wonder how long til Yamaha releases an xsr 1k. I get the vibe chase would choose the more powerful bike despite what he said about being more reserved as he has aged.
Interestingly, I rode the new XSR900 and MT10 SP (new gen) the same day back to back. MT10 SP was first and I noticed it was massively better than the old gen. For reference, I test rode the old gen twice and didn't like it at all. The new gen has much better tech, cool intake noise, comfortable, SP suspension felt good, up/down quickshifter was nice but still felt heavy and cumbersome to me. Hopped on the XSR900 and everything felt tighter and more direct. More playful, less bulky, still very comfortable, stock exhaust has a nice note to it, tech just as good as the MT10, and I liked the look better. Outside of the additional power and possibly a little more comfort for long distance touring, I saw no reason to go for the MT10 over the XSR900.
XSR isn't under-powered.
And with that bombshell: money is saved on tires, insurance, fuel, oil, potentially service costs. I bet some aftermarket upgrades are going to cost less, like a header pipe.
There's about one 1L naked bike that rides the ragged edge of diminished returns for cost, that being the GSX-S1000. Everything else (MT-10, etc) cost a LOT more to get that 5%-of-the-time thrill when the cops aren't looking.
Thanks buddy
Very true
Uh oh time to trade the 2020 Mt 10 in for a 24 here coming up
Very good comment as im also having hard time deciding between both.
I have an xsr700 and I absolutely love it. I would have to go with the xsr900 because that's my style of styling for a bike. I also love the way the triple sounds.
I love my 2022 Mt-09 SP! 99.9% of the bike is so good, that the little bit of a fidgity menu wheel doesn't even come into play.
ditto, never had any issues with mine and really don't change things very often anyway.
Too expensive, older used mt09/fz09 is best…. Mt10 is same price as mt09sp
@@keithquinn5624 frame and suspension on newest Gen is leeps and bounds above even Gen 2. I had a 2020 and it was squirrely in the corners. Plus two words, cruise control.
I've find that if you press the button slightly from below upwards it's less likely to skip.
@@keithquinn5624 Older not as good, check reviews from professional riders/journalists. mt10 is $14,199, mt09sp is $11,499.
I love the XSR900's looks. That classic headlamp style will never not be amazing
XSR 900 has my vote. The lack of wind protection on a naked bike doesn’t bother me unless I do more than 20 mins on the highway. Which isn’t where I want to ride regardless of wind protection. Multi day trips with my buddies where we spend most of our day between 30-80mph on back roads, I’ve never wished I had wind protection. I ride a Triumph Speed Twin 1200 and I ride it rather spiritedly (Ohlins suspension helps).
Speed twin is more money than xsr900 ı know different style ı like both bike but Yamaha gives you too much thing for money... triumph give you style and big low tourque...what do you think ? Which one is attractive and playful...
XSR 900, all day, hands down. Velocity Moto, fairing kits are awesome too. (if one is inclined).
2023 Blue XSR here.. Thrilled with mine.. went Big Bagger for a few years, so great to be on such an agile and quick bike! The Engine/Frame integration is total genius.. a glorius chunk of black. No Fins.. 3 cylinders is narrower than 4.. very compact.. just about perfect. My 3 cylinder 2 cycle H2 was wider with the fins. A 4 cylinder was very wide with fins. The Quick Shifter really is Yamaha's crowning achievement here. This is the "App" like adaptive cruise control and lane keeping. Absolute perfection. automatic transmissions in performance cars are OBSOLETE now. The new mustang has "Rev Matching", but you STILL use the Clutch! Totally missed the boat.. For sure requires a new manual transmission, but we don't need no stinkin' over complicated Dual Clutch crap. Easy half a second in the quarter (In a car).
Mannn I feel that, I landed on the XSR after test driving everything else in it's category. After a disappointing ride with the Thruxton RS, I couldn't stop thinking about the XSR. It's my rider life now 😎
That QShifter makes another Sale! The Twins are Thumpy.. not very rev happy like the triple. Somebody needs to do a test in the quarter mile.. the QS has to be worth half a second? Some transmissions can't be shifted very fast to boot. How does the XSR900 w/QS match a liter bike without?
@@markhall3434 quick shifters imho are a matter of convenience more than anything unless you're doing some serious competitive racing. Anything that is not a liter bike is not going to compare to a liter bike, they are made completely differently from ergonomics to engine and throttle design.
If you're doing track days for fun the XSR is nice to get out on and open up, but that is about it. You can ride it fairly aggressively, but if you're going harder why not get the MT or something designed for racing instead?
@@That1J1 we agree to disagree! QS as good as the XSR is worth trading in a liter bike without for. NOBODY shifts as fast as the XSR QS. XSR W/QS might beat a typical liter w/o QS to 120MPH . I'D be interested in the results. Prove me wrong!
Ok.. at $10,300, I'd hazard to say no gasoline street legal, non Chinese brand new from dealer bike can beat it in the quarter..
What you think is the cheapest any liter bike that might compete? A new mt10 goes for like $15K.. any CF moto chinese liter bikes worthy of note?
Heavier & more stable really is the bottom line. I first rode my 2020 mt10 and was amazed @ how smooth & comfortable it is! Then I started exploring that engine! Eargasmic! Totally! I have a Yosh can on it and am putting a link pipe on with a 2wdw flashed ecu! Can't effin'wait! You should keep both,that 900 is a loker!
Great video and thoughts, as usual! The windscreen on the MT-10 and the storage are game changers. I love the looks of the XSR, but for a daily rider I'd agree that the MT-10 is the way to go.
Daily driver.. you are not gonna do 100kms a day unless you work far and weather related well you dont go biking on rainy days so its not like a car..theres is no daily bike imo
I have your bike’s “Dad”, the 2nd gen FZ1. Has 90k miles and I beat it hard, never misses a beat. Going to rebuild an engine/tranny then add a supercharger instead of getting a new bike. I already had to replace the frame so we’re bonded by blood sweat and tears now lol can never sell her, but I love the mt-10… except the way it looks. To me it’s the biggest tragedy in motorcycles
Great comparison Chase. Its good to see two different bikes being discussed and compared. Too often Reviewers only compare bikes in the identical class. I was looking at an MT10 or a Ducati Supersport 950s completely different machines. was a hard choice and I still wish I had both!
OC: Get a polarised sheet for your screen man. I have the gen 2MT09 and yeah screen does look like an old game boy. But there's alot of options with polarised sheets and you can make that screen look alot better!!
I like both bikes, and decided the XSR was a better choice for me. I have the FJR1300 for touring and commuter when needed. So a sporty, around town and weekend blasts w/friends seems the logical way to go w/ this new gem. IF, I didn't have the bigger bike also? Probably would've went w/ the MT10.
The #1 selling point of the mt10 is the high speed stability. I hated my fz07 on the highway, but the mt10 is rock solid at speed. Bike literally never feels unpredictable.
I couldn’t agree more. I have a 2023MT 10 and since I’m still breaking it in I haven’t had it over 80 maybe 85 mph on the highway but holy shit it is so rocksolid even at those speeds I’m sure it’s really good all the way up into the triple digits. I met a guy a couple weeks ago and he said it starts feeling kind of light around 130 mph. I’ll take his word for it because I’ll probably never have it up to 130. 105 may be 110 miles an hour That’s about as fast as I have ever gone on any of my bikes
Had a 2022 XSR900 and I just could not live with the seat, after an hour I was done, swapped it for an MT09 and I love that bike
Why not just buy a Corbin?
You swapped the bike or the seat?
I mean, a simple modification is to take it to someone to put extra padding in it
@@jimmydgrantc’mon bro:
$650 vs $11,000
Answer is obvious- entirely new bike!
😂
I have owned my stock MT10 for nearly 2 years and absolutely love it, been a massive seller for Yamaha here in the UK, however as you stated the lighter flickable XSR 900 is on my wish list think it may be more suited to my riding ability, tough decision would be nice to have both lol, Cheers Chase.
MT-10 would be my pick. That crossplane inline 4 with cruise control is just what I like.
Just bought a brand new XSR900, but I would have loved to test drive the MT-10 to feel the difference. I can’t speak to which one I would prefer but coming from a 1000cc BMW (RnineT), I absolutely LOVE the XSR900!
I have never owned a motorcycle with a windscreen. I figure as long as I keep it that way, I won't know what I'm missing and can continue long-hauling naked bikes.
Much quieter that way, believe it or not.
I wouldn’t let my MT-10 go anytime soon. But I do like the looks of this XSR. Maybe after a year when more custom parts are available or is been tested more, I’ll consider check a trade. For now I’ll keep my MT-10 :). Thank you for posting this kind or reviews man, it does helps us riders to keep up with models and gives us enough info to have conversations about it. Keep posting them brotha
OC. I'm going to spin it a little different and say that the tracer 9GT plus is a mashup of the two. I would already have one on order if they weren't so damn expensive.
Bigger tank for touring, cruise control, heated grips, windshield. All the good stuff and the CP3 is plenty of power.
Its is still 60lbs more than the XSR900...but once add touring stuff on the XSR will make it around 450lbs, still a little lighter.
I wanted to like the Tracer.
Then I felt like they took an MT-09, threw away 90% of it, and put the CP3 into a massive, heavy, complex, too-touring and not-enough-sport result. Oh it's good. It's sporty. It's quick. But compared to its naked bones, it's quite a bit muted.
I was hoping for a Yamaha version of a MV Agusta Tourismo Veloce. A light, sporty, leg-room, more comfortable, more distant capable 85% MT-09 with identical horsepower. It's not. It's like a MT-09 trying to out-FJ the FJ1300.
@@exothermal.sprocket I was thinking that the Tracer is kinda like Yamaha's version of Honda's VFR
The Xsr900 has a really nice clean, oldschool look. It is so sexy. The new xsr900 GP with the front cowl looks absolutely amazing and I love the sound of the 3 cylinder reving up.
Th GP is ugly.
Had 2 MT10"s (The first was a 2020 that was) stolen) Got a 2021 MTo9 and sold it at 600 miles. I put heated grips and small wind screens on all of them. I liked the sound and power of the MT10, and the way it runs the twisteys . And the fact that you can get a comfort seat makes it so much better for the longer two or three day rides. I recomend gettting a 20170thru 2022 MT10 (and putting on a shift tech auto blipper) is the way to go.
If the small screen, scroll wheel and lack of wind protection (c'mon, it is a naked btw 😂) are all you can fault with the XSR, I"d say that's a very very positive review!
Not to mention he added an after market screen to the mt 10... lol
OC-Right with you brother on that already customized CP4. The sound alone makes hairs stand up and split... Bring on the muscle car vibes...
MT 10 all the way. I just picked my MT 10 up last week it’s a 2023 model. I rode it last year at the Yamaha demo and fell in love with it. I traded in my 2021 Kawasaki Z 900 RS café that’s how much I loved the MT 10
After all this time did you make the right choice or was it brutish acceleration you were looking for ?
I'd go for the XSR 900. MT-10 is too big for me. If you seen how tight the roads and traffics in Southeast Asia, you'll understand
Never had the MT-10, but as far as MPG on the CP4, I averaged beter MPGs on a ford F-150 than on my R1M. as far as the looks of the XSR900... that blue paint is amazing! I rode one for a bit, and it is a great bike, and it has such an unique sound! and that blue color with the gold is just perfect for it.
OC I"d choose the XSR any day, though between that and a Street Tripe RS... That is a much harder choice.
OC. Great pick. It is hard to beat everything the MT-10 offers... aside from MPG, but the smiles is more than worth a fuel stop every 100 miles. I tour and camp off my 2017 FZ10. No wind screen and it is amazing!!! Keep up the great content, Chase.
100% rather have an MT-10. I had an MT-09 and thought it was a great bike but not quite what I'm looking for.
It would be cool if Yamaha did a single sided swingarm on the xsr900
hmm.. would single sided weigh more? Those swing arms and entire forged aluminum integrated frame is gorgeous.
@@markhall3434 just plain logic screams that a single sided swingarm is lighter
Entertaining video!
You're right about that cross plane being one of the best sounding bikes, BUT the Aprilia RSV4 is the best sounding. 😁 Keep up the good work!
I only ride my MT10 in mode one. I love the feeling of that throttle!
Bought my 22 mt10 after trying out a few bikes including the mt09, totally agree this will be the bike I want to keep for a very long time.
I bought the new gen '21 mt09 last year and then found a screaming deal on a '18 mt10, you know how that goes. I can't keep them both, VERY tough decision but I'm leaning towards the mt10. I watched till the end, I think you've helped me make my decision.
Here because I'm thinking about this XSR9 for 2023 despite buying a new bike in 2022. I swear it never ends.
I have XSR900 22 and I love it. Upgraded from XSR700 so heaps more power but just as manoeuvrable.
MT10 has the best of everything i possibly need ina motorcycle, power, agility, configurability, easy to service, easy to understand, never suprises you. I think yamaha's one of the best creations, that i will only upgarde to 2022/23 model, maybe.
I have this exact same 22 XSR900, and while I haven't had any issues with the scroll wheel or dash, the very short fork lock is the only thing I don't like about this bike. It is without a doubt my dream bike in every other way, and like you with your MT10, it totally revitalized my love of riding after 10 years. I've had two '07 SV650's, a '20 Vstrom (650), and a '98 DL650, so the move to the XSR was a huge one for me. Can't wait for the after market to spark up, but for the time being MOST of the stuff that fits an MT09 also fit the XSR900. And then there's tons of universal fit stuff out there for the little mods.
Your decision was shocking!
Would be my choice too tho…love the sound!
i agree the scroll wheel on xsr900 is a nightmare, but it doesnt affect the look or the riding. it wont affect your choice of motorcycle. set your settings and you never have to use it again. love my xsr900 -22 and i cant find more "bang for the buck" on the market today. I tried the mt-09....no, no and no. If they made a zx750 -92 with better engine and everything modern like the xsr900 then maybe....if you dont like xsr900 in the naked bike category then you are probably more into sportsbikes or touring bikes. It is a top contender for sure for the price you pay. If i had a "no limit budget" i might go for some ducati with 200hp but I'll look like a clown when a better rider pass me on a slower bike. You cant buy riding skills but you can learn them over time.
OC;
Chase complains about both dashes.
Audience: What the hell do you want?
Me: He wants a Ducati.
Admit it, if you could afford it you would own a Ducati.
You aint wrong. lol
Depends on use and conditions but ive ridden both and im going with xsr.. the newer models have everything i want and since my new commute is about 20miles shorter each way, i can stop worrying about the smaller tank and lack of wind protection
I have lusted after the XSR900 as soon as I saw it. I got to sit on one at my local dealer recently, and I love it even more except for the seat. I don't mean looks as I think it looks great on that bike. It's the comfort I didn't like it was lime sitting on a piece of plywood. I would love to ride one I just haven't had the chance yet.
OC, I would love to ride the MT 10. I’m a BMW rider but this bike looks so fun.
Having owned many heavy big engined bikes over many years when you ride a lightweight machine everything just feels better, easier, more fun. XSR gets my pick.
OC: I am facing a similar dilemma, I am thinking of getting the new MT10 over my 2016 XSR900 60th. If Yamaha ever decides to release a XSR1000 I would put a deposit down the next day.
My BMW F900R has the best TFT of any of the bikes I have seen. I love the jog wheel screen control setup on my left hand side and don't think I would like it at all on the throttle side.
My decision would have been based on insurance for me.
In California XSR 900 @ $45 a month, MT-10 @ $320 a month for me.. so yeah.... LOL!
I'm so glad I picked my 2020 Mt10 dark knight edition abs. Thanks for video. Made me feel allot better about my choice 3 yrs ago. B safe but .....when in doubt tach it out.
Ive ridden both of them, and own a MT10.. I wouldn't give it up for anything. XRR and MT09 feel like toys to me not as serious as the MT10. That moto GP sound is second to none... Can't go wrong with either. I've owned almost every liter bike out there and needed something similar to that feel. I don't care about electronics and turn them all off with the exception of the quick shifter.
I had a 10 for two plus years and it’s one of the best bikes I’ve owned. My xsr900 is highly modified, and though it’s 5 years old, I wouldn’t trade it for any bike. The only thing the new one has that I find interesting is cruise. I have that with my tracer, so….
This was so dope I'm glad you stayed loyal to her❤
What a great video, very informative. I do think bikes are subjective I prefer the XSR-900 I have one on order in black and I can’t wait to get it mid august!!
I have the FZ-10 and I want the XSR 900 so I'm glad you made this video. Some the things you stated on the video were right on the money, but the brakes on the FZ/MT are horrible. I leaning towards getting the XSR 900 because I personally like a lighter bike, but I don't think I'm ready to give up my FZ just yet. I guess I will get a windscreen and upgrade the brakes and keep rolling and get the XSR 900 in the future!
Good decision it’s more important that a bike does more things if only bike
OC: I think you nailed it when you said (in essence not verbatim) the day to day usage a heavy bike just feels better than something that is lighter. if I wanted a fun weekend thing then the xsr 900 is what I would go for.. but the bigger bike yes. as for the Gas mileage on the MT10 that is something one can not only get used to but figure the sweet spot on a LONG long trip.
anyway MT10 for me if I had to choose just between those two.
Hi. That was a no brainer. MT10 is so hot. And I do like what you said about the "making it yours" customizing factor of the MT10! Like the grey!
For you and your current situation I can see why keeping your MT10 makes the most sense. Depending on what you end up doing with your ADV bike plans could change the situation though. If you end up with and ADV bike that has good weather protection and highway comfort then the XSR or some other smaller more sporting bike would be a better fit for you.
I knew you would stick with the MT10. I would have done the same. The ergos, engine, practicality and sound win it for me hands down. Good video. Keep up the good work. 👊🏿✌🏿👍🏿
I like the term Angry Bionicle more than transformer/deceptacon. Someone coined that term a while back and I think it's a very good description
Great review video I appreciate this and the comparison I’ve been strongly looking at an MT 09 but you have convinced me I need to look at other aspects instead of falling in love with a bike for it looks
I currently own a 22’ z900 and am going to try and pick up a mt10 next season if possible! Can’t wait. Won’t sell the z900 tho, sentimental value is too high.
Own an MT10 and have rode an XSR, both are wheelie tools 😂
Love them both but I'd go MT10 👍
Agree on the sound of the MT10....mostly. The RSV4/Touno sounds a little better
If you had picked the XSR 900 over the MT-10, I was going to point out that it wasn't fair comparing a 2019 Yamaha MT-10 to a 2022 Yamaha XSR 900 because there have been many improvements on the 2022 MT-10 over the 2019. However, you picked it anyway....have you thought about getting a new MT-10 (maybe even the SP) and moving the parts over from your 2019?
I want to ride one of these so bad, coming from a mt-10 but haven't had it for a handful of years, haven't ridden since I sold it. This bike is beautiful. Big fan of the Z900 as well. Wonder if the Z900 cafe would compare, don't think you mentioned it.
It's too big for you, get a Grom .
Whilst the Z900 is heavy, it looks awful. No fancy electronics which most nakeds have now, its expensive, and doesn't compete with the likes of the MT09 SP, 890R and 765RS.
The RS Z900 is only really for poodleling around on, very under powered, in4 is lack luster and no modern amenities. For me, the 1200 Speed twin was a better bike than the Z900 RS.
@@inked-96 is there no head to head for these two bikes? There's no way I believe the Z900 doesn't compete with the mt-09. Doesn't the Z make more on paper so even if it's heavier it should make for somewhat of a even playing field. As far as the looks I guess to each their own, I love the looks and I'm not the only one who thinks that. One of my best friends got a naked Z900 because it looks so good to him.
@PDillz MT09 is a better bike. Don't get me wrong, the z900 is good but inline 4's are dying and have been for years.
Z900 doesn't come with most modern amenities like quickshifter up n down, corner abs, cornering traction control, no decent suspension, no cruise control and yet still demands a high price... it's one of the heaviest in it's class, it's near on a 1000cc not a 900, it's not a middleweight bike...
765RS
890R
Mt09/SP
Are all better bikes and similarly priced if not cheaper.
What you get with the Z900 is reliability and aggressive looks.. that's about it. If im paying 13k for a bike, I expect it to compete with the competition which it doesn't.
@PDillz z900 makes 125hp and 98nm. 210kg.
MT09 SP is 193KG, 118hp and 92nm.
I always found a triple to be a happy medium. I'm just basing my opinion. We ride what we like... no one makes a bad bike, just some are better than others in our own view.
Have a good day.
MT-09 > MT-10 > XSR900
I own a 22 MT 10, which has the electronic goodies and that big, bad ass motor, set up for sport touring with a flash and link pipe. I will take that over the xrs900 any and every day. XRS is a very nice ride, but can’t really compare to the MT.
I wish they would make an XSR 1000
@@cassius348 right it would be so awesome
Where can I get that jacket it’s dope!
Test road the new MT09 SP over the summer. It was so nice in many ways but I’d still have the MT10 in my garage if I could only have one.
With your MT10 as you wish, and it has a quick shifter.. you got to go MT10.. If it didn't have the QS, might be a different decision. A Quick Shifter is the VVT of DOHC, gotta have it. Cruise control to boot, but not a big deal for me.
I like both bikes but I think the mt10 is a step above the sxr besides the screen but 2023 mt10 sp looks freaken awesome if I could afford another bike that’s what I would get
The travel of the wheel is designed so that you need to rotate your hand just a hair backward to have your press in line with the wheel. Yamaha did this on purpose for safety reasons. If you press it not lined up with the action of the button you’ll roll it every time!
I have a new xsr900, with a tune, full exhaust, and filter, it's running 130bhp.
With the additional weight saving over an MT10, which is around 20kg, and 25hp difference, it makes for a more enjoyable bike for me personally. The only thing i like about the MT10 is its engine but couldn't ever buy one due to it's god awful looks.
The blues ok, kinda mad they stopped offering the xsr in black. Yamaha...go figure
My dreambike would be: XSR900 with the CP4 of the MT10❤🎉
Get the 2023 MT-10 SP, dude - it's head and shoulders above this old model.
I've got the 2019 MT-10 I bought it used with 10K miles some luggage windscreen heated grips I've only had it for a week now but boy it just rips the freaking corner so well and I'm on the fence of decading it because I don't know is that a cop magnet
I currently ride a Harley Sport Glide. But I miss the different riding style my Street Triple had. Plus I don’t know if Forward controls are for me. It’s comfortable, but makes my inner thighs hurt. Now!! Harley have come a long way. The upside down forks on my bike make it SO much more “flickable” than other Harleys. That being said. I think I would choose the MT-10 as well. Just the versatility alone would probably sway me. I also do not enjoy a twitchy throttle, but could get used to it I guess. I like the Speed Triple and the BMW 1000 S as well though.
Keep the MT10. Luggage on the xsr900? Save your money for a brandnew MT10 in the future.
I am a owner of mt 07 and i am thinking xsr 900 is better looking of mt 09 2022 and better performance from mt 09 2020.. so xsr 900 it will be a perfect choice... Mt 10 is a quite big and a lot powerful for every day!!
Keeping the 10 until you ride the '22 MT10sp. 👍
the empty 10 are a good bike, gas stations love them alot
OC. Current 22 xsr900 owner. Love the bike. Think the name is too much. Xs9 or Sr9 would've been ideal. Never considered the MT. I was a fan of transformers too, the original animation and toys, not the live action cgi atrocities. I'm also a generation out on understanding the appeal of Pokémon so neither screen really appeals. Would've preferred a square / round offset combo to keep the early 90s aesthetics, show digi menus and a big sweeping needle, plus it would help fill the weird gap between it and the headlight, that is awesome but the lens seems like its a half size too small. If it had two like my 99 speed triple, or if it had a chrome beauty ring around the edge that might help. The black surround does some optical shrinkage illusion i think. I do kind of enjoy the white to green to orange tach sweep though so I'll manage. I don't get the jog wheel hate but youre not the only person to mention it so my hands must just be weird. I was disappointed you didn't mention gas mileage on the SR9 as a positive or negative in comparison to the MT. I seem to burn through tanks fast, but I don't know if its just me. Great videos.
I was so so tempted to get the MT10 but doing touring i went with the MT09SP and was still happy with my choice but its a nice comparison and fuel range was important in my choice too as found that i got over 200 miles out of my MT09 in the end be interested on how far could get with MT10
120 miles a tank approx
@@cornbred0327 yea didn't think would be much over 100 so is that riding normal or full tilt everywhere
@@PureEvolution normal in Bradenton FL riding. In town w traffic and lights. Gotta go on a tour sometime tho. It should get better highway.
God I hated the scroll wheel on my 2021 mt09 so much at first. It got better but I still never do it, but I just am a minimalist when it comes to using electronics on a motorcycle anyway
XSR all the way. Now if I could only find one that's not marked up by like 6k. I just can't do the MT looks. I must be some sort of weirdo but I couldn't care less about what type of display the bike has, I'm never looking at the thing.
I got mine for the same reason. Wanted an MT, but couldn't deal with the stupid bug-eyed cyclops look. Took 3 months to get an XSR, but the bike was well worth the wait. I have no idea why availability is still so bad, doesn't seem to be the case for the MT... I hope you find one, good luck👍
@@dsofe4879 thank you! At this point I'll probably wait for a used one. Here in SoCal the dealers are price gauging like crazy.
Only thing i dont like about xsr is the look of that seat..
Mt10 is a nice bike with great sound and engine👍👍
I'm always wary about electronics faith.
No matter how much fancy electronics you've got, if you hit an oily or dirty turn the bike just goes and bye bye... (xsr900 Legend Blue owner 😄)
Stole every word out my mouth! Especially at the end, where you talk about riding through every season and situation with your 10. 30k and almost four years of ownership and I can’t believe how much I still love it. Perfect? Nope, but it’s got charisma and a fun factor that endears it to your heart. It’s my bike-wife.
I’ve spent time on an MT-09 SP, and as great as that bike is, it doesn’t even come close…
O.c. definitely the mt10. Nice looking bike and as you said you can really make it your own
Get a Tracer9GT, Chase.. ;-) It has CP3, it has that prolonged swing arm, it keeps a bit of that transformers style and it's completely made for travelling.. I have bought one and I'm absolutely happy with it.. It checks all the checboxes I ever wanted a bike to check.. :-)
Black in the 900 looks very cool 😎 mt should be better. It's a premium big bike.
I think the only upgrade would be MT10SP
I did a 1000 mile butt burner challenge on my 21 MT09 SP. Don’t settle. A plastic windscreen should not determine the bike you want to buy.
OC Puig universal Vision windscreen looks very nice on the xsr
XSR 900
are those sporty looking bags available for the xsr900?
I wonder how long til Yamaha releases an xsr 1k. I get the vibe chase would choose the more powerful bike despite what he said about being more reserved as he has aged.