So right. Someone actually commented on one of our recent Pyrenees tour vids that I should rub down and repaint the stone chipped mirror stalk. They were all gained riding the bike in amazing places. Thanks for watching
Good for you Richard. Being a true motorcycle enthusiast it's hard not to keep buying the latest bikes or something you think might serve you better but it's very easy to sell a bike you are comfortable with and will forever regret selling. We always look for that perfect bike without realising we currently own the nearest we will get to perfect for us.
Yes, completely agree. Buying new bikes is a great experience but holding onto a really special bike is more difficult. Sometimes you don't realise how good they are until after you've sold it.
I watch a lot of bike reviews on RUclips, but, to be honest, yours is, by far, the most informative and honest out there. Quite simply, for anyone in the market for a used motorcycle, they need to look no further than a review from a long-term owner like your good self, who has been there, done that and got a few t-shirts along the way. Fabulous stuff Richard, great looking (and sounding) bike, great weather and superb roads.......what's not to like. The bike is a keeper for sure. Enjoy all the preparation for this years' Euro tour. Take care for now.
Really nice of you to say David. The beauty of our little channel is we don't do sponsorship, take free stuff offered for review and are free to speak our minds (within RUclips guidelines) It's just for fun and we enjoy the interaction in the comments section. It was a beautiful day for a run out in the gorgeous British countryside
After seeing I think it was your 2 year review I made my mind up bite the bullet and make the jump from my r1 (2009 x plane) to the 10 ... always had r1s since 2004 it was a big leap, I'm now 2 years in and it was the best move I ever made
That's brilliant to hear. I've just returned from riding mine around the Pyrenees. It was completely trouble free and a hoot to ride. Thanks for stopping by and leaving the comment
Excellent review Richard, I couldn't agree more with your assessment. Indeed, it was seeing and hearing your experience of the bike which gave me the confidence to buy one in July 2020. I live in North Cornwall, and traded my R1200RS at Wigan Yamaha. So a round trip of 660 miles proved the decision - comfortable, sounds brilliant, capable of both slow and fast riding. I must say that my fuel consumption averaged over 45 mpg, and I don't dawdle when on a long run! Unfortunately, recent health problems have resulted in two numb and useless feet, meaning I can't change gear , so I am now waiting for an NC750X DCT to be delivered. A different league from a performance point of view, but after over 50 years riding, I have to accept the change - I don't intend to give up yet!
Good for you mate. I have a little plaque in my Study, which says " You don't stop riding when you get old.....You get old when you stop riding" I know it's a cliché, but very true.
Well said Richard. So sorry to hear about your health problems but glad you're keeping at it. I've ridden the NC750X in Gran Canaria but not the DCT. Thanks for watching. Definitely inspiring hearing you're keeping riding. Best wishes from Carol and Richard
MT10's are solid, very nice to hear the quick shift acceleration. My son and I share 2019 MT10 of 4 bikes. 31,313 miles, 35.5mpg spirited rides! Can't wait to see your Shad bag review. Take it easy! Eric C. NC-USA.😃😃
I've had mine 2 years , coming from years of sports bikes and various others I can honestly say the gen 1 mt10 is a special bike , my favourite bike by a country mile always a pleasure to ride and when you want open the taps it doesn't disappoint what a bike
@PhilNixon-w6c Being a big guy, I've always steered around sports bikes, so I was completely blown away when I first tried one. I'm still addicted to the riding experience. I'm told the gen 2 has smoothed the engine and riding experience out, but I love it as it is.
@@Banditmanuk that's the stumbling block for me , that gen 2 looks like a budget version of the gen 1 in my opinion... obviously it's bound to be better and the tft screen and other gizmos make it more desirable, but I just can't get past that front end unfortunately
Well, Saturday dawns and there's some blue Sky here in sunny Worcestershire and I can't disagree with anything you've said about the MT10. My 2018 bike was £10500 with 1 mile on the clock and handguards, rad. shield, comfort seat and the small screen. I am still utterly besotted by mine and the thing that still 'gets' to me, apart from the excellent handling and the sheer grunt of that engine is, that fabulous sound, which we got lots of on this great vid.. I think you can grow to love the looks of a bike to an extent but once you're riding it, you can't see that. However, the feel and the sound(I always wear earplugs to stop tinnitus, but you don't lose that sound), it just totally takes you over. You are right to keep your bike as having ridden the new version, they have lost the magic of that sound. Great Vid. yet again Rich.
The sound is something special. I think it sounds amazing considering it's still stock. Don't know about you but I feel like an 18 year old again when I pull the visor down and open the throttle. Love it
Great review, 32k with no issues, I should imagine there are alot of riders on very expensive adventure/touring bikes wishing they could say that. I’m with you on naked bikes, lack of wind protection does slow you down and as I mainly ride my bike in good weather, why would I want a fairing stopping the cooling breeze.
@ticthedog6095 Yep, a couple of years ago, we were riding in the Alps in 40C heat. You wanted every bit of breeze. I still absolutely love this bike. Just service it, keep fitting tyres and keep adding petrol (lots of petrol). The most exciting, comfortable and reliable motorcycle I've owned since 1980.
Amen to all your observations. Ours is just slightly younger (couple of months) and thus a few less kilometres here in Oz. We are still almost exclusively two up riding and doing a few more shorter trips. Just coming into Winter in WA so the rides are more pleasant due to our lack of rain, and losing the heat which cooks us at traffic lights. My wife doesn't complain about anything, even when muggins gives it a bit too much throttle overtaking and the obvious front wheel up occurs. I just suffer the embarrassment of doing a wheelie on the road. I too thought of upgrading to a new one but was equally horrified at the exchange value. Why change what works indeed. Keep enjoying it mate as we do, it's keeping us two oldies young and helping keep boredom at bay. All the best from your mates in Oz. If we ever get back I promise we'll catch up!
Great to hear from Oz. Lots of other owners in this comments section. The bike appears to be universally loved by it's owners. I'm not sure Carol would want to go pillion with me. Do you still have the stock rear footpegs on?
@@Banditmanuk I made some extensions out of 3mm ally they swing out a bit to miss the swing arm. About 75mm extension by memory. Although they stick out another few mill it doesn't present any problems. I'll try and send you some pics on messenger, if I remember!
It's a lovely bike, Richard. It sounds lovely on acceleration. I didn't realise you'd had it this long. But I totally get what you mean when a bike just suits you so well.
It's probably the first bike I've owned that I've really gelled with. Did a Multistrada, Speed Triple, Tiger 800 and a Versys 1000GT in 18 month intervals before this bike. It does suit me but it also encourages slightly naughty riding. Probably for the best I ride 90% of the time behind Carol.
best road bike i have ever owned, fun factor 10. if you want a new one get one this year next year they will come with computer that stops your bike if emisions are not right. all bikes next year are going to be a pain in the arse to own.
I can remember your bike. I hadn't heard about the emissions thing, but nothing would surprise me! Only a matter of time before it becomes illegal to tamper with the emissions reduction systems on bikes, including the exhaust. At the moment, lots of owners bin these huge, expensive quiet 'clean' systems.
The MT10 is still in my top 5 of bikes I want to buy, a large chunk of that is honestly your use of it. You do basically everything I do except the track days, and I'm sure it'd manage them just fine eh! One of the more interesting things for me is I've seen people complain about these engines blowing up etc on occasion, but you're the only person I know is up to date on servicing etc.....so I take your experience as a lot more representative of how I would find it tbh. Great video, I hope it keeps serving you well, enjoy the upcoming trip :)
I vaguely remember seeing an MT10 featured on your channel way back. Didn't your mate have one back in Ireland? I'm sure it would be amazing on track days. The trouble with these bikes, they do get stunted and are favourites for dyno tunes and ecu flashes. I'm not sure all those mods are conducive to engine longevity. My bike in the majority is ridden steady. It's stock as I'm not interested in dyno numbers as it's plenty fast enough. I think I'm mechanically sympathetic in the way I use the bike, like not revving it out hard until it is fully warmed up. Full main dealer serviced, including the expensive valve service. Hopefully, it will continue to be trouble-free...... I've just kitted it out with the latest Shad expandable hard panniers and top box ready to head to the Pyrenees. Looking for to it. Hope you're keeping well and best wishes.
Hi, bought mine in October 2017 brand new,I have had many many bikes in the past,350lc crashed loved it,350 power valve crashed loved it,500lc tried to kill me several times so i sold it,got into gsxr territory i guess you are getting the picture by now,blades ,R1 ZX10 blah blah,But and its a BIG butt i have never had as much love for a bike as i have for my MT,Never sell it,it is very honest very fast and very beautiful, i will say no more.Great vid as always very honest.
Arr an early love affair with lairy two strokes! Had the 250LC back in 81, loved it. It's interesting that you've owned and riden the very fastest bikes out there but still love the MT10. For me, it's not about out and out top speed. There's not a more fun bike out there for the 0 to 100mph range. That's the magic of the MT10. Good to hear your thoughts
Maybe my age now,But i have not owned a bike I would not sell,obviously there are many i should have kept,and many i have looked at buying again in the last 5 years 350lc etc etc,I took the MT for its mot on Thursday and was asked there if it was for sale and the answer was and always be nah mate i love it. It is part of the family now.
I have a 2017 MT10sp it's my 19th yamaha absolutely love the bike. I think Yamaha are at the top of the tree now for build quality reliability and have been for a long long time. I also have in.my Garage a 1994 YZF 750R and a 2004 R1.
That sounds a great collection. I'm with you on your thoughts on build quality and reliability. Yamaha are right up there. I'm not sure if the SP version was even available when I bought mine?? Lovely bikes, and I like the SP colour scheme
I had mt09 2023 and love this bike but for quality I do not like to see pvc tape on the wiring....they could use some tube or anything else.NOT pvc tape..it does not look good
Fabulous bike, I have thought of changing the GSX S 1000 and just can't bring myself to part with it, I just love it too much. Yellow wheels look great but I can see that keeping them clean would be a challenge. In good nick for a 8 year old bike Mate. Looking forward to the 10 year review.
Thanks appreciate you saying. If you gell with a bike and it's reliable then why sell? Most of the new stuff has additional tech and emissions stuff fitted that doesn't improve the looks or riding experience. Will see how long it stays reliable. Thanks for watching
I totally get you about the exhaust. Apparently I’m some kind of pervert due to keeping the stock exhaust on my speed triple…Have a mate with the same bike who’s spent a grand putting on a loud system that annoys the hell out of everyone. He’s also lost that beautiful induction sound that I love so much. I think it’s a fashion… Or maybe I’m old 😂
I think my exhaust is loud enough. I guess each to their own, but if I'm riding with someone with a loud pipe, I prefer them behind me. I'm a member of an MT10 Facebook group and the number of posts that say, "I've a decat and Akro can will I pass the noise test at such and such track day? Err, probably not!
I’m fairly new to your channel Richard, I found you and carol a few weeks ago , and must say I have enjoyed all your videos I’ve watched, nice to see an mt10 which a decent amount of miles on it so many people trade bikes before they really get to know the them. It sounds bloody awesome on acceleration. Btw I have a 2017 street triple r, which I have no intention of selling either
Carol says her Street Triple makes a better noise than my MT10! They are awesome bikes. Really appreciate you finding our channel and watching the vids 👍
nice review Richard . the bike is a credit to you and Yamaha . our Chris ,my son had one around tha same time . I took it for its 1st year service for him as he was in hospital having chemotherapy for lymphoma . it was the most exiting bike i have ever ridden . you need to be very sparing with the throttle .by the time i got back home i had got used to it . i will never forget it .
Five thousand pounds means depreciation of just less than £5000 over seven years . That's very very good ,some bikes will lose that in the first couple of years!
Yeah if you got it early you were laughing honestly. I got mine in May/june 2016 for £9899 with £400 in free acsessories, traded it in may 2022 for 7k with 10 thousand miles on it
I agree with your comment about the high speed driving. I love to work my MT10 in that 0-100 km range where that engine is just a peach. I bought the Givi windscreen (the smaller one) and it looks great while providing far better wind protection. You should check it out.
I've never ridden one but I love the MT10, and I think those colours you have are the best with the later white and red coming a close 2nd. I like the new bike too, it's a beastly looking machine but I don't think I could afford mid 30's mpg. My KTM 1290 will display 68mpg when riding like a fairly and averages mid 50's. But the MT10 sound tugs at my heart strings everytime I hear it. I want that sound 🎵🎶😍🥰❤️💕
You know the only other bike that's temped me to stray from the MT10 is the 1290 Super Duke. Sounds much better MPG. I'm fairly sure Yamaha won't do a Tracer 10 as most touring oriented folks won't put up with the bad MPG. I would argue with that as I absolutely love that engine. Get a test ride, you will love the howl of that motor. 😍
Glad you are still enjoying it. Just a few points, if you swap the mirrors out for the ones on the Tracer 7 you can actually see behind you! You are only averaging 4000 miles a year despite foreign touring but I guess that has been because you often use your van to get the bikes there? Don't try the new MT10 because you will want one, it's so much better in every way, even the fuel consumption is better however they still missed a trick by not giving it a 20 litre tank!
Yep, the 20L tank would have improved things. We probably did bigger miles in the early days and have ridden all the way to Carcassonne and back but yes we have done the Alps twice now using the van mainly because of work time constraints. No van for the upcoming Pyrenees trip. Of course, the pandemic scuppered lots of touring plans. I've yet to try the new bike. My Yam dealer used to be good at throwing me a set of keys to just try a bike (it's how I ended up buying this one) As I mentioned, I'm just not sure on the looks of the new bike. Appreciate hearing your thoughts, and thanks for watching
I couldn't agree with you less regarding the new model with the exception of it should have had a larger tank. They've ruined that glorious sound and just turned it into a load of induction roar. The one I tried, I gave it the full beans and could detect any better performance. I found the dash over complicated and too many options and the dash figures too small to read. Had the new model been better than the old model, I'd have bought one. I didn't.
I sold my 2021 MT 10 to get something different. I regretted that decision so much that I bought a 2023 MT 10 SP. Sometimes the grass isn't greener on the other side.
The MT10 certainly has served you well, I totally get why you're so keen to hang on to it. My FZ1-S was very similar but I found the seat hard and used to get a numb bum after an hour or so. I only really sold it because the ZZR1400 was of a similar ilk only bigger and more comfortable. I've only just received notification for this video, come on RUclips 2 days late 😠
I do appear to be quite attached to this bike. Perfect blend of comfort, excitement and reliability. That's odd with the notification?? Better late than never I guess
Honestly the Mt10 is the most exciting bike I've ever ridden. Totally intoxicating. The flip side is that fuel consumption I must admit but thats what you get for riding a big beasty like that. I totally see why you wouldn't want to get rid. Nicely done sir🎉
Good video Richard and some good points made, well timed as well as thinking of a change myself although do love my GTR. I find its always a difficult decision to change if there is nothing wrong with what you have. I was almost going to change today but after a sleep less night thinking about I am now not so sure. I do love the sound of yours and agree why have a de cat and can when there is no need to improve the sound.
She does sound nice still stock. The big difference you would notice is how much lighter the MT10 is to slow manoeuvre. Its got 150+ bhp, Japanese reliability. Most like a Speed Triple 1050 on steroids. Trouble is it's not a great two up bike.
@@Banditmanuk Seen one with all touring kit and only 1K miles on it. Was going to sort it today bur took GTR for MOT yesterday and thought why change my GTR does it all. I am no good at making decisions, always think shall I or not.
I like the way they look, I love the way they sound especially when they accelerate. My mates is decatted with the original can, sounds beautiful. You summed them up perfectly, animals. Great video Rich, and you're right, why get rid of it if you enjoy it that much 👍
Your mates bike will be loud! The original can is pretty much straight through as the majority of the silencing is done in the cat! It's an absolute hoot to ride. Hopefully, it's got got a few more trouble-free miles in it yet.
Yes but we've gone with the Shad V38X their brand new expandable lockable hard pannier. Just filming a vid on them and trying them out today. They look good on the bike.
It sounds fabulous during the roll-ons and especially shifting through gears. I think you better hangout with Carol because if we got together we both would be in jail.😄 I never ever considered th MT-10 until watching you with yours. I'll check my Thruxton R it should coming up on eight years now too but way less miles.
We would need to head out to Mexico 😂😂 Honestly, I think you would enjoy this bike. The engine characteristics are very unlike any inline four I've previously owned. Mid-range torque (think it makes more torque mid range than the R1) makes things exciting. Would love to see you launch one at a drag strip
@@Banditmanuk You said it liked to wheelie and the drag strip surface really brings that out, I'd love to try your MT-10 and put a attitude correction on Mr. Bill and his 200 horsepower.👍
Very detailed review Richard. Really enjoyed it. When did you encounter the loose seat for the first time? Do you have any info from the first hand if the latest model has a better fuel consumption? I can only imagine how does it feel when you open the throttle. :) Cheers bro.
The seat was like that after a few weeks of ownership. You can replace the rubbers underneath but I've not bothered. Yes, the new model is slightly better on fuel but not by much.
Mt10 is one of the few bike ive sold on (after 6 years) that i still liked, unfortunetly my bike needs changed and the big MT wasnt ticking those boxes. My new one does everything the mt did plus a few more and tbh is just as fast if not faster... the MT's trick is it feels fast, even if in reality it isnt any faster than other bikes in the segment also I must have got unlucky because mine was fairly un-reliable. Saying that ill probably get another one, if they put the cp4 in a tracer format i would buy one today. Enjoy the bike mate, thanks for the videos as always.
I'm sorry to hear yours wasn't reliable. What did you buy? I certainly wish they had done a Tracer 10. Hard luggage and a bigger tank. I thought I had the perfect bike a few years ago with a 1200 Multistrada. Loved it, but it broke so many times!!
@@Banditmanuk Hi thank you for the reply. I ended up on an s1000xr in the end, went out shopping for a Versys or a tracer 9 but got a good deal from a non BMW franchise dealer on the XR. Would like to get back to the Japanese at some point, possibly the new Suzuki sports tourer if a Tracer 10 doesn't materialise.
I see what you mean about the wheels, i have a 22 07 in icon blue , glad i didn't get the cyan storm one( mint green wheels), also think I'll keep the standard exhaust after watching this video , i too don't like too loud pipes , did actually swap exhaust for a gr moto one , sent it back too obnoxious for me .
Yep those yellow wheels are a dirt magnet. Thought I had wiped any excess lube off the chain. I like the open pipe CP4 noise but only for a very short time. I'm keeping my stock exhaust.
I loved this review. I too have an mt-10 and will keep on riding it until the wheeles fall off. Can i ask what tank bag are you using? Im looking for one like yours that clips to the gas cap
@yama_ghost4536 It's an SW Motech that attaches with a tank ring. Sorry, I can't remember the exact model, but think you will spot it in their range. Enjoy the MT10 and thanks for watching
Had my 2016 MT 10 a few months now and I can honestly say it is a belter. Agree about the key position so annoying! But that sound from my Scorpion end can never gets old. Only weird thing mine does is smell of oil from time to time after some blasts, was wondering if its just a header breather? but cant see a oil leak? Weird.
I always said don't be an early adopter on a new model. Then that's exactly what I did! Luckily for us, Yamaha got it right from the get-go. I'm not sure about your oil smell? Is it using any? Could be just the normal combustion smell if the cat had been removed?? Hopefully nothing to worry about. Perhaps a complete clean of the engine & headers then take for a long run. See if you can spot anything.
@@Banditmanuk No doesn't use a drop from my limited time with it. I will be having tank off again and giving engine a deep clean. It is D catted with K&N air, leo Vince pipe and Scorpion End Can. Re mapped and have 150 at back wheel 😊
@dmac7660 I did at 24,000 miles. All the exhaust valve gaps had closed. Definitely needed doing. Think with the rest of the service & mot (UK roadworthy test) it came to around £800.00 at my Yamaha dealer. Full vid here ruclips.net/video/jjLJWSMaEy4/видео.htmlsi=V3BwaW_rpklKDl--
I like the comment all I have done is put tyres on it!! 😂 and a lot of ⛽️ fuel! But if you love it you will feed it. You are keeping the MT10 for the same reason I won’t be selling my bike any time soon. It ticks all the boxes!
I don't know what the maths are, but 34,000 miles on the bike. 17litres used every 140 miles. Petrol approximately £1.50/litre. Think that's over £6,000 spent just on ⛽️ I think 🤔 I still love it, though The GS is a way more sensible buy. I should probably be riding one
Hi Richard .. .doin a long term review ..wow 8 years ..I came away with the definite knowledge that she's a sweet sports tourer ..Stock parts reliability .I have always said ,you want long engine life .Do not mess about with aftermarket exhaust ..Years of engine design arsed up with 30 minutes of spanner work ..gotta say the most expensive mod on the bike is the fuel saver ..Does a Carol come in blond and red head 😍 😍 😍 😍 😂😂😂😅
Yep. There's often a price to pay by trying to screw every bit of power out of an engine. Raising the rev limit, probably being amongst the worst mod. Ha ha fuel saver.
It’s the bond, the places you’ve been and seen together. A little too fast and with a face only a Mother could love, for me 😉 I bought a Street Triple R after seeing your review of Carol’s, it was the sound when the KTM outgrunted you 🎶👌🏻
😀😀 Yes, unfortunately, she's not a looker. I'm still in love with it. I've seen so many places and had some amazing trips on it. You probably noticed I had that Street Triple review in my mind when I made this vid. Started at the same cafe. I admire the Super Duke but I wouldn't want the hassle of owning one. (And he did have nearly twice the cubic capacity)
Stone chips like yours aren't damage they’re memories
So right. Someone actually commented on one of our recent Pyrenees tour vids that I should rub down and repaint the stone chipped mirror stalk. They were all gained riding the bike in amazing places.
Thanks for watching
Good for you Richard. Being a true motorcycle enthusiast it's hard not to keep buying the latest bikes or something you think might serve you better but it's very easy to sell a bike you are comfortable with and will forever regret selling. We always look for that perfect bike without realising we currently own the nearest we will get to perfect for us.
Yes, completely agree. Buying new bikes is a great experience but holding onto a really special bike is more difficult. Sometimes you don't realise how good they are until after you've sold it.
I watch a lot of bike reviews on RUclips, but, to be honest, yours is, by far, the most informative and honest out there. Quite simply, for anyone in the market for a used motorcycle, they need to look no further than a review from a long-term owner like your good self, who has been there, done that and got a few t-shirts along the way. Fabulous stuff Richard, great looking (and sounding) bike, great weather and superb roads.......what's not to like. The bike is a keeper for sure. Enjoy all the preparation for this years' Euro tour. Take care for now.
Really nice of you to say David. The beauty of our little channel is we don't do sponsorship, take free stuff offered for review and are free to speak our minds (within RUclips guidelines)
It's just for fun and we enjoy the interaction in the comments section.
It was a beautiful day for a run out in the gorgeous British countryside
After seeing I think it was your 2 year review I made my mind up bite the bullet and make the jump from my r1 (2009 x plane) to the 10 ... always had r1s since 2004 it was a big leap, I'm now 2 years in and it was the best move I ever made
That's brilliant to hear. I've just returned from riding mine around the Pyrenees. It was completely trouble free and a hoot to ride.
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Could never tire of the awesome soundtrack from the bike.
I love the noise. Its unlike any other inline four cylinder engine. Unfortunately it encourages you to twist the throttle even more.
Excellent review Richard, I couldn't agree more with your assessment. Indeed, it was seeing and hearing your experience of the bike which gave me the confidence to buy one in July 2020. I live in North Cornwall, and traded my R1200RS at Wigan Yamaha. So a round trip of 660 miles proved the decision - comfortable, sounds brilliant, capable of both slow and fast riding. I must say that my fuel consumption averaged over 45 mpg, and I don't dawdle when on a long run! Unfortunately, recent health problems have resulted in two numb and useless feet, meaning I can't change gear , so I am now waiting for an NC750X DCT to be delivered. A different league from a performance point of view, but after over 50 years riding, I have to accept the change - I don't intend to give up yet!
Good for you mate. I have a little plaque in my Study, which says " You don't stop riding when you get old.....You get old when you stop riding" I know it's a cliché, but very true.
Well said Richard. So sorry to hear about your health problems but glad you're keeping at it. I've ridden the NC750X in Gran Canaria but not the DCT.
Thanks for watching. Definitely inspiring hearing you're keeping riding.
Best wishes from Carol and Richard
MT10's are solid, very nice to hear the quick shift acceleration. My son and I share 2019 MT10 of 4 bikes. 31,313 miles, 35.5mpg spirited rides! Can't wait to see your Shad bag review. Take it easy! Eric C. NC-USA.😃😃
Just finished filming the Shad pannier review. Hopefully, up next Saturday. I think they look good on the MT10
I've had mine 2 years , coming from years of sports bikes and various others I can honestly say the gen 1 mt10 is a special bike , my favourite bike by a country mile always a pleasure to ride and when you want open the taps it doesn't disappoint what a bike
@PhilNixon-w6c Being a big guy, I've always steered around sports bikes, so I was completely blown away when I first tried one. I'm still addicted to the riding experience. I'm told the gen 2 has smoothed the engine and riding experience out, but I love it as it is.
@@Banditmanuk that's the stumbling block for me , that gen 2 looks like a budget version of the gen 1 in my opinion... obviously it's bound to be better and the tft screen and other gizmos make it more desirable, but I just can't get past that front end unfortunately
@@Banditmanuk And spoilt the sound.
Well, Saturday dawns and there's some blue Sky here in sunny Worcestershire and I can't disagree with anything you've said about the MT10. My 2018 bike was £10500 with 1 mile on the clock and handguards, rad. shield, comfort seat and the small screen. I am still utterly besotted by mine and the thing that still 'gets' to me, apart from the excellent handling and the sheer grunt of that engine is, that fabulous sound, which we got lots of on this great vid.. I think you can grow to love the looks of a bike to an extent but once you're riding it, you can't see that. However, the feel and the sound(I always wear earplugs to stop tinnitus, but you don't lose that sound), it just totally takes you over. You are right to keep your bike as having ridden the new version, they have lost the magic of that sound. Great Vid. yet again Rich.
The sound is something special. I think it sounds amazing considering it's still stock. Don't know about you but I feel like an 18 year old again when I pull the visor down and open the throttle. Love it
@@Banditmanuk It's not just our names that are the same, is it? Had a blast on mine up into the Cotswolds today. Heavenly!
Great review, 32k with no issues, I should imagine there are alot of riders on very expensive adventure/touring bikes wishing they could say that. I’m with you on naked bikes, lack of wind protection does slow you down and as I mainly ride my bike in good weather, why would I want a fairing stopping the cooling breeze.
@ticthedog6095 Yep, a couple of years ago, we were riding in the Alps in 40C heat. You wanted every bit of breeze. I still absolutely love this bike. Just service it, keep fitting tyres and keep adding petrol (lots of petrol).
The most exciting, comfortable and reliable motorcycle I've owned since 1980.
Had mine for a year and I love It one of the best bike's I have had and have had quite a few nothing is as fun for me
That's great to hear Richard 👍 Enjoy the bike and thanks for watching
Amen to all your observations. Ours is just slightly younger (couple of months) and thus a few less kilometres here in Oz. We are still almost exclusively two up riding and doing a few more shorter trips. Just coming into Winter in WA so the rides are more pleasant due to our lack of rain, and losing the heat which cooks us at traffic lights. My wife doesn't complain about anything, even when muggins gives it a bit too much throttle overtaking and the obvious front wheel up occurs. I just suffer the embarrassment of doing a wheelie on the road. I too thought of upgrading to a new one but was equally horrified at the exchange value. Why change what works indeed. Keep enjoying it mate as we do, it's keeping us two oldies young and helping keep boredom at bay. All the best from your mates in Oz. If we ever get back I promise we'll catch up!
Great to hear from Oz. Lots of other owners in this comments section. The bike appears to be universally loved by it's owners.
I'm not sure Carol would want to go pillion with me. Do you still have the stock rear footpegs on?
@@Banditmanuk I made some extensions out of 3mm ally they swing out a bit to miss the swing arm. About 75mm extension by memory. Although they stick out another few mill it doesn't present any problems. I'll try and send you some pics on messenger, if I remember!
It's a lovely bike, Richard. It sounds lovely on acceleration. I didn't realise you'd had it this long. But I totally get what you mean when a bike just suits you so well.
It's probably the first bike I've owned that I've really gelled with. Did a Multistrada, Speed Triple, Tiger 800 and a Versys 1000GT in 18 month intervals before this bike.
It does suit me but it also encourages slightly naughty riding. Probably for the best I ride 90% of the time behind Carol.
@@Banditmanuk yeah, blame the bike 🤣🤣
Thanks Richard 👍
Thanks for watching
best road bike i have ever owned, fun factor 10. if you want a new one get one this year next year they will come with computer that stops your bike if emisions are not right. all bikes next year are going to be a pain in the arse to own.
I can remember your bike. I hadn't heard about the emissions thing, but nothing would surprise me! Only a matter of time before it becomes illegal to tamper with the emissions reduction systems on bikes, including the exhaust. At the moment, lots of owners bin these huge, expensive quiet 'clean' systems.
The MT10 is still in my top 5 of bikes I want to buy, a large chunk of that is honestly your use of it. You do basically everything I do except the track days, and I'm sure it'd manage them just fine eh!
One of the more interesting things for me is I've seen people complain about these engines blowing up etc on occasion, but you're the only person I know is up to date on servicing etc.....so I take your experience as a lot more representative of how I would find it tbh.
Great video, I hope it keeps serving you well, enjoy the upcoming trip :)
I vaguely remember seeing an MT10 featured on your channel way back. Didn't your mate have one back in Ireland? I'm sure it would be amazing on track days.
The trouble with these bikes, they do get stunted and are favourites for dyno tunes and ecu flashes. I'm not sure all those mods are conducive to engine longevity. My bike in the majority is ridden steady. It's stock as I'm not interested in dyno numbers as it's plenty fast enough. I think I'm mechanically sympathetic in the way I use the bike, like not revving it out hard until it is fully warmed up. Full main dealer serviced, including the expensive valve service. Hopefully, it will continue to be trouble-free......
I've just kitted it out with the latest Shad expandable hard panniers and top box ready to head to the Pyrenees. Looking for to it. Hope you're keeping well and best wishes.
Hi, bought mine in October 2017 brand new,I have had many many bikes in the past,350lc crashed loved it,350 power valve crashed loved it,500lc tried to kill me several times so i sold it,got into gsxr territory i guess you are getting the picture by now,blades ,R1 ZX10 blah blah,But and its a BIG butt i have never had as much love for a bike as i have for my MT,Never sell it,it is very honest very fast and very beautiful, i will say no more.Great vid as always very honest.
Arr an early love affair with lairy two strokes! Had the 250LC back in 81, loved it. It's interesting that you've owned and riden the very fastest bikes out there but still love the MT10. For me, it's not about out and out top speed. There's not a more fun bike out there for the 0 to 100mph range. That's the magic of the MT10.
Good to hear your thoughts
Maybe my age now,But i have not owned a bike I would not sell,obviously there are many i should have kept,and many i have looked at buying again in the last 5 years 350lc etc etc,I took the MT for its mot on Thursday and was asked there if it was for sale and the answer was and always be nah mate i love it. It is part of the family now.
I remember you from "Triumph Forum" good to see you enjoying the bike I just bought one and agree with all of what your saying.
Wow the Triumph forum yes. It's been a while since I was on there. Thanks for watching
I have a 2017 MT10sp it's my 19th yamaha absolutely love the bike. I think Yamaha are at the top of the tree now for build quality reliability and have been for a long long time. I also have in.my Garage a 1994 YZF 750R and a 2004 R1.
That sounds a great collection. I'm with you on your thoughts on build quality and reliability. Yamaha are right up there.
I'm not sure if the SP version was even available when I bought mine?? Lovely bikes, and I like the SP colour scheme
I had mt09 2023 and love this bike but for quality I do not like to see pvc tape on the wiring....they could use some tube or anything else.NOT pvc tape..it does not look good
Fabulous bike, I have thought of changing the GSX S 1000 and just can't bring myself to part with it, I just love it too much. Yellow wheels look great but I can see that keeping them clean would be a challenge. In good nick for a 8 year old bike Mate. Looking forward to the 10 year review.
Thanks appreciate you saying. If you gell with a bike and it's reliable then why sell? Most of the new stuff has additional tech and emissions stuff fitted that doesn't improve the looks or riding experience.
Will see how long it stays reliable. Thanks for watching
I totally get you about the exhaust. Apparently I’m some kind of pervert due to keeping the stock exhaust on my speed triple…Have a mate with the same bike who’s spent a grand putting on a loud system that annoys the hell out of everyone. He’s also lost that beautiful induction sound that I love so much. I think it’s a fashion… Or maybe I’m old 😂
I think my exhaust is loud enough. I guess each to their own, but if I'm riding with someone with a loud pipe, I prefer them behind me.
I'm a member of an MT10 Facebook group and the number of posts that say, "I've a decat and Akro can will I pass the noise test at such and such track day? Err, probably not!
I’m fairly new to your channel Richard, I found you and carol a few weeks ago , and must say I have enjoyed all your videos I’ve watched, nice to see an mt10 which a decent amount of miles on it so many people trade bikes before they really get to know the them. It sounds bloody awesome on acceleration. Btw I have a 2017 street triple r, which I have no intention of selling either
Carol says her Street Triple makes a better noise than my MT10! They are awesome bikes. Really appreciate you finding our channel and watching the vids 👍
nice review Richard . the bike is a credit to you and Yamaha . our Chris ,my son had one around tha same time . I took it for its 1st year service for him as he was in hospital having chemotherapy for lymphoma . it was the most exiting bike i have ever ridden . you need to be very sparing with the throttle .by the time i got back home i had got used to it . i will never forget it .
I remember you telling me John. Everyone should experience riding an MT10 at some point. Hope Chris's treatment went well. 🙏
@@Banditmanuk he had a stem cell transplant eventually as after chemo failed after 1 year .
Five thousand pounds means depreciation of just less than £5000 over seven years . That's very very good ,some bikes will lose that in the first couple of years!
I do get that. The MT10 was very well priced at launch but you certainly cannot complain (I know I do here 😉) about that level of depreciation.
Yeah if you got it early you were laughing honestly. I got mine in May/june 2016 for £9899 with £400 in free acsessories, traded it in may 2022 for 7k with 10 thousand miles on it
it sure is one of the best bikes I've ridden for sure... Deadly though. Scary fun =P
Scary fun is a good description! They make a great noise as well 👍
Yeah you can hear from a distance when a inline 4 comes. They have a distinct sound which I love. =) @@Banditmanuk
I agree with your comment about the high speed driving. I love to work my MT10 in that 0-100 km range where that engine is just a peach. I bought the Givi windscreen (the smaller one) and it looks great while providing far better wind protection. You should check it out.
@@dmac7660 will do 👍Thanks for watching
I've never ridden one but I love the MT10, and I think those colours you have are the best with the later white and red coming a close 2nd.
I like the new bike too, it's a beastly looking machine but I don't think I could afford mid 30's mpg. My KTM 1290 will display 68mpg when riding like a fairly and averages mid 50's. But the MT10 sound tugs at my heart strings everytime I hear it. I want that sound
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You know the only other bike that's temped me to stray from the MT10 is the 1290 Super Duke. Sounds much better MPG. I'm fairly sure Yamaha won't do a Tracer 10 as most touring oriented folks won't put up with the bad MPG. I would argue with that as I absolutely love that engine.
Get a test ride, you will love the howl of that motor. 😍
Glad you are still enjoying it. Just a few points, if you swap the mirrors out for the ones on the Tracer 7 you can actually see behind you! You are only averaging 4000 miles a year despite foreign touring but I guess that has been because you often use your van to get the bikes there? Don't try the new MT10 because you will want one, it's so much better in every way, even the fuel consumption is better however they still missed a trick by not giving it a 20 litre tank!
Yep, the 20L tank would have improved things. We probably did bigger miles in the early days and have ridden all the way to Carcassonne and back but yes we have done the Alps twice now using the van mainly because of work time constraints. No van for the upcoming Pyrenees trip.
Of course, the pandemic scuppered lots of touring plans.
I've yet to try the new bike. My Yam dealer used to be good at throwing me a set of keys to just try a bike (it's how I ended up buying this one)
As I mentioned, I'm just not sure on the looks of the new bike.
Appreciate hearing your thoughts, and thanks for watching
I couldn't agree with you less regarding the new model with the exception of it should have had a larger tank. They've ruined that glorious sound and just turned it into a load of induction roar. The one I tried, I gave it the full beans and could detect any better performance. I found the dash over complicated and too many options and the dash figures too small to read. Had the new model been better than the old model, I'd have bought one. I didn't.
I sold my 2021 MT 10 to get something different. I regretted that decision so much that I bought a 2023 MT 10 SP. Sometimes the grass isn't greener on the other side.
True👍
Nice to hear you're back on an MT10
Thanks for watching
The MT10 certainly has served you well, I totally get why you're so keen to hang on to it. My FZ1-S was very similar but I found the seat hard and used to get a numb bum after an hour or so. I only really sold it because the ZZR1400 was of a similar ilk only bigger and more comfortable. I've only just received notification for this video, come on RUclips 2 days late 😠
I do appear to be quite attached to this bike. Perfect blend of comfort, excitement and reliability.
That's odd with the notification?? Better late than never I guess
The review I was looking for. I’m looking for one of these now (same model) and this has been very useful. 👍
Thank you. I absolutely love this bike. They are super exciting and very durable. Hope you find a nice machine to buy. Thanks for watching. Richard
Thoroughly enjoyable and informative review 👍, im off for a scroll through Autotrader, Yamaha MT10 section
😀 Brilliant, just remember if you buy a grey and yellow one, you will always be cleaning wheels 🛞
Thanks for watching
@Banditmanuk currently have an R nine T scrambler with gold spoked wheels so I know the pain!
Honestly the Mt10 is the most exciting bike I've ever ridden. Totally intoxicating.
The flip side is that fuel consumption I must admit but thats what you get for riding a big beasty like that.
I totally see why you wouldn't want to get rid. Nicely done sir🎉
Thanks. I love it. Such a brilliant bike, the fuel consumption doesn't bother me
Good video Richard and some good points made, well timed as well as thinking of a change myself although do love my GTR. I find its always a difficult decision to change if there is nothing wrong with what you have. I was almost going to change today but after a sleep less night thinking about I am now not so sure.
I do love the sound of yours and agree why have a de cat and can when there is no need to improve the sound.
She does sound nice still stock. The big difference you would notice is how much lighter the MT10 is to slow manoeuvre. Its got 150+ bhp, Japanese reliability. Most like a Speed Triple 1050 on steroids.
Trouble is it's not a great two up bike.
@@Banditmanuk Yes agree about 2 up, wife said she still wants to go pillion so got a 1000 Versys lined up. just cant make up my mind???
@@youngeroldie5089 Versys is a very good bike. Its the bike I owned before my MT10.
@@Banditmanuk Seen one with all touring kit and only 1K miles on it. Was going to sort it today bur took GTR for MOT yesterday and thought why change my GTR does it all. I am no good at making decisions, always think shall I or not.
Richard, the seat rattles on my 22 model it’s what they call character.
Then put on some weight, that'll sort it!
I don't mind a bit of character. Bit disappointing that Yamaha couldn't have fixed the issue in 6 years though.
Thanks for watching
I like the way they look, I love the way they sound especially when they accelerate. My mates is decatted with the original can, sounds beautiful.
You summed them up perfectly, animals.
Great video Rich, and you're right, why get rid of it if you enjoy it that much 👍
Your mates bike will be loud! The original can is pretty much straight through as the majority of the silencing is done in the cat!
It's an absolute hoot to ride. Hopefully, it's got got a few more trouble-free miles in it yet.
Nice review. It has held up well over 8 years.
It's doing OK I think. Just been out on it today, and summer just about feels like it's kicking in here.
Good evening Richard decent review of your 8 year old bike they sometimes less is more I like the look of it 👍🏍️
Thanks very much. Appreciate you watching
The Givi v37 panniers are great on an MT10 and the brackets are easy to fit.
Yes but we've gone with the Shad V38X their brand new expandable lockable hard pannier. Just filming a vid on them and trying them out today. They look good on the bike.
It sounds fabulous during the roll-ons and especially shifting through gears. I think you better hangout with Carol because if we got together we both would be in jail.😄 I never ever considered th MT-10 until watching you with yours.
I'll check my Thruxton R it should coming up on eight years now too but way less miles.
Is it still illegal in your state? 😂😂😂
@@NooBiker Interstate speeds are routinely safely run at 85 mph , but I rarely run on them. I prefer the roads in Mexico 😉
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We would need to head out to Mexico 😂😂
Honestly, I think you would enjoy this bike. The engine characteristics are very unlike any inline four I've previously owned. Mid-range torque (think it makes more torque mid range than the R1) makes things exciting. Would love to see you launch one at a drag strip
@@Banditmanuk You said it liked to wheelie and the drag strip surface really brings that out, I'd love to try your MT-10 and put a attitude correction on Mr. Bill and his 200 horsepower.👍
Very detailed review Richard. Really enjoyed it. When did you encounter the loose seat for the first time? Do you have any info from the first hand if the latest model has a better fuel consumption? I can only imagine how does it feel when you open the throttle. :) Cheers bro.
The seat was like that after a few weeks of ownership. You can replace the rubbers underneath but I've not bothered. Yes, the new model is slightly better on fuel but not by much.
@@Banditmanuk Thanks for the info. I see. In my opinion jut keep it. :)
A man that loves his bike…😊
That's me 😍
Mt10 is one of the few bike ive sold on (after 6 years) that i still liked, unfortunetly my bike needs changed and the big MT wasnt ticking those boxes. My new one does everything the mt did plus a few more and tbh is just as fast if not faster... the MT's trick is it feels fast, even if in reality it isnt any faster than other bikes in the segment also I must have got unlucky because mine was fairly un-reliable. Saying that ill probably get another one, if they put the cp4 in a tracer format i would buy one today. Enjoy the bike mate, thanks for the videos as always.
I'm sorry to hear yours wasn't reliable. What did you buy?
I certainly wish they had done a Tracer 10. Hard luggage and a bigger tank.
I thought I had the perfect bike a few years ago with a 1200 Multistrada. Loved it, but it broke so many times!!
@@Banditmanuk Hi thank you for the reply. I ended up on an s1000xr in the end, went out shopping for a Versys or a tracer 9 but got a good deal from a non BMW franchise dealer on the XR. Would like to get back to the Japanese at some point, possibly the new Suzuki sports tourer if a Tracer 10 doesn't materialise.
@CeeRTee The XR looks an ideal fast touring machine. (I'm just not too keen on the seat) 👍👍
I see what you mean about the wheels, i have a 22 07 in icon blue , glad i didn't get the cyan storm one( mint green wheels), also think I'll keep the standard exhaust after watching this video , i too don't like too loud pipes , did actually swap exhaust for a gr moto one , sent it back too obnoxious for me .
Yep those yellow wheels are a dirt magnet. Thought I had wiped any excess lube off the chain.
I like the open pipe CP4 noise but only for a very short time. I'm keeping my stock exhaust.
I loved this review. I too have an mt-10 and will keep on riding it until the wheeles fall off. Can i ask what tank bag are you using? Im looking for one like yours that clips to the gas cap
@yama_ghost4536 It's an SW Motech that attaches with a tank ring. Sorry, I can't remember the exact model, but think you will spot it in their range. Enjoy the MT10 and thanks for watching
Had my 2016 MT 10 a few months now and I can honestly say it is a belter. Agree about the key position so annoying! But that sound from my Scorpion end can never gets old. Only weird thing mine does is smell of oil from time to time after some blasts, was wondering if its just a header breather? but cant see a oil leak? Weird.
I always said don't be an early adopter on a new model. Then that's exactly what I did! Luckily for us, Yamaha got it right from the get-go.
I'm not sure about your oil smell? Is it using any?
Could be just the normal combustion smell if the cat had been removed??
Hopefully nothing to worry about. Perhaps a complete clean of the engine & headers then take for a long run. See if you can spot anything.
@@Banditmanuk No doesn't use a drop from my limited time with it. I will be having tank off again and giving engine a deep clean. It is D catted with K&N air, leo Vince pipe and Scorpion End Can. Re mapped and have 150 at back wheel 😊
Great vlog. Gained a sub.
@@FoxtrotOscar9 Thanks. Appreciate you saying. Welcome along
Did you have your valve clearances checked? If so, what was the mileage and how bad were they?
@dmac7660 I did at 24,000 miles. All the exhaust valve gaps had closed. Definitely needed doing. Think with the rest of the service & mot (UK roadworthy test) it came to around £800.00 at my Yamaha dealer. Full vid here
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I like the comment all I have done is put tyres on it!! 😂 and a lot of ⛽️ fuel! But if you love it you will feed it. You are keeping the MT10 for the same reason I won’t be selling my bike any time soon. It ticks all the boxes!
I don't know what the maths are, but 34,000 miles on the bike. 17litres used every 140 miles. Petrol approximately £1.50/litre. Think that's over £6,000 spent just on ⛽️ I think 🤔
I still love it, though
The GS is a way more sensible buy. I should probably be riding one
Hi Richard .. .doin a long term review ..wow 8 years ..I came away with the definite knowledge that she's a sweet sports tourer ..Stock parts reliability .I have always said ,you want long engine life .Do not mess about with aftermarket exhaust ..Years of engine design arsed up with 30 minutes of spanner work ..gotta say the most expensive mod on the bike is the fuel saver ..Does a Carol come in blond and red head 😍 😍 😍 😍 😂😂😂😅
Yep. There's often a price to pay by trying to screw every bit of power out of an engine. Raising the rev limit, probably being amongst the worst mod.
Ha ha fuel saver.
It’s the bond, the places you’ve been and seen together.
A little too fast and with a face only a Mother could love, for me 😉
I bought a Street Triple R after seeing your review of Carol’s, it was the sound when the KTM outgrunted you 🎶👌🏻
😀😀 Yes, unfortunately, she's not a looker. I'm still in love with it. I've seen so many places and had some amazing trips on it.
You probably noticed I had that Street Triple review in my mind when I made this vid. Started at the same cafe. I admire the Super Duke but I wouldn't want the hassle of owning one. (And he did have nearly twice the cubic capacity)