Gen X Dad shows Gen Z Son - Alien (1979) First time movie reaction!
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- Опубликовано: 10 авг 2023
- In this video we are trying something new. My Son Thoren has always insisted that any movie made before the year 2000 is garbage and I am here to prove him wrong. We start with the Academy Award Winning Alien from 1979!
I hope you guys enjoy it.
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This movie is a timeless classic....
Also, Mother's information comes from the Company they work for, Weyland Yutani. Ash the science officer was using Mother to access messages and follow orders that nobody else had access to.
Dallas also states that Ash was a last minute replacement for the normal science officer, on orders from The Company. W-Y had this planned out from the beginning.
1979 and this movie still holds it's ground against anything being produced today.
STAGE 2: He watches the sequel.
STAGE 3: John Carpenter's THE THING from 1982.
STAGE 4: He doesn't watch the prequel.
The Thing’s prequel was super lame haha
It always amazes me how easily people forget the very first bits of information that's shown: the Nostromo is a big-a$$ factory / refinery for mineral ore. The "rain" inside the ship is just leaking pipes. 😄
Also: when they land, that is not the whole ship (the factory / refinery), just a smaller ship, and what causes all that malfunction is the fact that they land on a very rocky, uneven ground, which damages their landing gear and other systems connected to it.
How do you know its broken pipes and not condensation? Sure the ship is insulated but its not going to be heated to a nice 70-80 degrees or so, they have clothes for a reason. I can imagine warmer air traveling up and hitting objects that are cool enough to gather condensation for water to drip down. It was a big area up above.
@@arifeannor9573 Yes I assumed that it was due to the sheer size of the space. Even massive hangars today can develop their own climate.
7/10 isn’t a bad score for a movie made in 1979 from this Gen. I have been doing this with my son. Gotta show that we rocked with some good cinema back in the day
The ship is huge & cavernous & sealed from outerspace. That would produce a lot of condensation. Think about how much condensation you get overnight in a tent or a camper.
i hated that.
Kid’s a good guesser! Not so predictable in 1979, but this movie was hugely influential on movies that came later. Like Halloween came out in the late 70’s and launched an entire industry of slasher movies. Now movies are like, “Here are the rules to survive a horror movie,” so the genre has become self-aware of its predictability.
Gen Z has decades of movies now that they don’t know exist, but which form the basis of modern cinema. But back in the day, these were original. Now it’s remakes and sequels.
Sadly, yeah
I feel kind of bad for the younger generations growing up in recent times because modern cinema kinda sucks (for the most part) I miss originality and am so sick of remakes, reboots, and sequels 😔
I feel like the film industry after 2005-2010 kind of lost its way (obviously there are many exceptions and you’ll get the modern classic from time to time, but I wish they were the norm instead) I was born in the early 90s so I was technically still around to see cinema in the last of its glory days when I was a kid before it became saturated with over the top CGI (which has come a long way, I’m not knocking it, just only when it’s overdone and carries the entirety of a film instead of the story and characters) and loaded with uninspired reboots of pre-established franchises to get people spending money (I think those god awful Disney remakes and countless Star Wars films/ Marvel movies are the worst offenders lmao)
Unfortunately, Hollywood doesn’t care about taking risks and making anything new anymore, they only care about making money
Which is why I prefer independent films when it comes to anything made in the modern day.
@@VOMITQUEEN the thing of it is, Queen, remakes have floated the industry since the earliest years. music industry too. not about to stop now.
If your attitude is "anything before 2000 was bullshit" then why bother watching anything at all? All movies (and shows) post 2000 are referencing stuff from the 90s and before... so wouldnt it all be tainted? Also, you're just gonna miss some some of the coolest stuff ever made.
You gotta open your mind a bit and start appreciating movies for what they are and what they do well and not by some arbitrary rule you made up out of lack of experience.
Well said! He's trying, which is more than he has done in the past. I'll turn him! Thanks for the comment!
Yes I agree, There's nothing but classics. I'd love for them to react to the original Excorsist movie😊
You’re not wrong, but young ‘uns only have x-number of years to accumulate culture. Same as us when we were coming up. He’ll get there. People in the 60’s counterculture used to say “Don’t trust anyone over 30.” Now they’re in their 70’s. 😄
You have to give kids a chance to appreciate older content. When I was a kid, I didn’t have any interest in 50s movies. It doesn’t happen immediately.
It would be a disservice to Thoren if you don't get him to watch "Aliens" the sequel. I think we'll get a 10/10. 👍
You two remind me of me and my mom sharing a movie experience together!
I was about to leave home for UT Austin when we watched “Five Easy Pieces” on late night T.V.
My mom knew the movie and we watched it together.
It was a wonderful discovery of a film that is to this day in my top 4 films of all time!
By the way,
I saw ALIEN in the theater when it opened in 1979 and John Hurt became my favorite actor of all time because of his death scene!
Thank you both for bringing back the memories!!!
Found you early, hope you keep it up! Your son is adorable. I am also Gen X w/Gen Z children. While their tastes vary, I'm happy to say one of Younger Son's favorite movies is Kubrick's The Shining. And one of Older Son's favorite movies is The Thing. So I highly recommend both.
One year long ago there was a sci fi festival held at the Seattle center.
I stood right next to The Nostromo they used in the film.
That thing is almost the size of a VW Beetle and has about a million model parts glued to it.
It's freaking awesome.
Cinema begins way before 2000. ALIEN is one of the classic films where the crew and cast had the benefit of being inside immense sets without tons of blue screen to stare at. It's an extremely beautiful film to behold. I screen this for my Production classes every year and they are amazed at how well it holds up to scrutiny.
Out of the original crew of the Nostromo, only Jonesy survived to die of old age. So, if you go to space, take cats with you.
I can’t help but feel that if these two ever make a horror move, it would be something like “Man hears a menacing growl outside his door, he locks his door!” End of movie!
One thing that answers the question of 'Why would Kane go down & look at the eggs?' Is made clearer in the book- The Space Suit he was wearing was more Combat Armor than simple protection from the elements. The Glass-Like Helmet was made of a material stronger than Steel. Most people, when outfitted like that, would be a lot more willing to expose themselves to potentially dangerous situations. It would have been nice for the film to at least give a tiny bit of exposition about that, given how many people question his actions.
In the context of the movie. He is portrayed as quite brave and curious. He wanted to be on the first team to investigate.
torikazuki8701: would you touch a pile of shit with your bare hands , that is what he do in the Movie despite his "protection Gear" but People in all Movies like that are stupid as hell
Yeah, they establish Kane’s curiosity two or three times leading up to that scene.
Saw at the drive in in 79 , saw Halloween same drive in, Aliens the sequel is still the most exciting movie I’ve seen in the theater, thanks guys
It’s the company. Wetland-Yutani that knew about the organism.
Mother is just a company computer meant to retrieve an organism for the bio weapons division for the company to make a fortune.
That golf-clap you both did at the end, great stuff! Thanks!
The hugh automatic ore processor is the greater part of the whole rig. Nostromo is the section that detached to go down to the surface. Presumably, the water dripping all around is condensation from the cooling system and is potable because it's distilled. If probably drains and get recycled.
Always save the cat.
Jonesy would never allow himself to be used as bait by some random alien.
Jonesy would never allow himself to be a hiding place for some big, huge yucky alien.
Senior and Junior are boarding the "Nostromo." What will these boys make of this "old, long, slow-moving, character-based, no-DFX" movie? 9:39 Savvy viewers saw Ash's "calisthenics" as suspect. 10:29 Good, a Space Horror movie should be seen in broad daylight.:) 39:29 That's a STINGER! 48:39 Making "Xenomorph Steamed in Shell," of course. 49:50 There have been movies of that time where where there are NO survivors, so Ripley surviving was not a given. As I recall, one ending had Ripley decapitated and the Xenomorph recording that closing monologue.
As I always say, if they had just listen to the crazy cat lady no one would have gotten dead.
And please educate your son on the truth of films. Just for our viewing pleasure alone. 😏
Its not the computer giving them orders 😂 Its coming from their bosses on earth lol
Damn right the cat lives. Barely any horror movies think of the pets :(
I fail to see how Thoren his idea about films before 2000. Shouldn't he be trying to convince you that films today aren't total sh*t...especially films the last 8 years?
I wanna show this movie to my twins, who are 14. I saw this on HBO back in the early 80s. I was maybe 8 or 11. We are also an ADHD family, so hopefully they sit through it. 😂 I have more patience for slow paced movies.
I'm hoping that in 30 years time, Thoren is trying to explain to people why "movies" were kind of cool. 😉
Those dumb forms of stale media that came before AI rewrote the world... Just a thought...
Great reactions🎉 Subbed.
Poor Sigourney. Those underwear had to be uncomfortable as he** since they deliberately got her a pair that were about 3 sizes too small. I suppose it was better than being nekkid which is what they originally planned until the studio vetoed that idea.
At 25:30 the "rain" is melting ice from the landing gear.
Ash didn't do that to the computer it was the company, they picked up the signal before so that's why Ash was there in the first place, Mother is AI, but it doesn't come up with shit out of nowhere, it follows its directives just like Ash. They can receive radio signals but the ship had those instructions to begin with since they left home.
I don’t think they knew about the signal before the mission started or they would have sent a crew straight there. But they did have the contingency programmed so they could exploit new discoveries, and an android on board to represent their interests.
@@maxducoudray But I believe they said in the film he was new, like he replaced somebody, could be misremembering but that is how I always took it. Better to keep it internal and not sending people who you may not want to die to figure out if its anything good, whether the alien killed them or not, small chance if it was anything they really wanted and wanted to keep secret they probably would of killed the crew anyways. So a small group inside the company did this, and soon as they mentioned it, you got more people that know, more chances to lose control of it.
@@arifeannor9573 Yeah, you’re remembering the line where Captain Dallas said he shipped out with the same science officer many times and Ash was a last-minute replacement he’d never met before. But I don’t think the two are connected because they would’ve sent a dedicated team straight to the signal if they knew about it beforehand. No way they’d leave it to chance with a bunch of freight haulers who have no motivation.
@@maxducoudray Yeah we just have different ideas on what they were doing.
About the cameras: this is basically an interstellar truck and the Company is probably not too concerned about providing cameras here - they can't even provide a shuttle that will carry all seven crew members. Company is cheap.
Went to see this when it first came out and we were smoking a joint in the theater (you could do that back then) and suddenly there was an earthquake and the movie stopped and we had to evacuate. It wasn't a bad one, but they were not going to continue the movie, so we were issued passes to come back another time.
I think there is a little purpleish stuffed elephant that needs a good wash.
I think Brett was killed in the landing gear bay, that's why water is falling because of condensation each time it is deployed and retracted.
The water was from condensation from the cooling of the factory.
This blew me away as someone from Gen Y. Green screen was still in relative infancy from the 70s all the way through the 90s, and blue screen was the norm at the period this film released. Even these days, greenscreen and CG is painfully obvious to anyone who has taken even a basic cinema course.
Films before the 00s had to, by necessity, make more use of practical effects than they do today - take Jurassic Park back in 1993. The CG effects are extremely dated, but they used animatronics and puppetry for close-up shots and shots where actors would physically touch the creatures. And honestly, the puppetry - while aged - still holds up today. I respect Alien and Aliens precisely because of them being primarily practical effects.
It's funny because when I was growing up in the 90's watching these type of movies, I considered black and white movies and the westerns from the 60's as boring and old. But as I got older I started to watch and appreciate them. And maybe in 20 years time the younger generation will look at the marvel movies as old.
15:36 Pour l'anecdote, ce qu'on voit à l'image est en partie constitué de véritables abats de bovins maquillés et disposés dans l'oeuf translucide fabriqué spécialement par les artistes-décorateurs du film (L'ensemble des trucages du film est montré et expliqué dans le Making Of officiel, je vous le conseille vivement, c'est aussi captivant que le film lui-même).
the newer generations im just saddened by...im glad im gen x...sorry if i sound neg
Any chance Gen X dad will be introducing Gen Z son to John Carpenter’s The Thing anytime soon?
Editing the video now. We watched it last night. I had not seen it either.
@@variablevisuals1625 Awesome! One of my favorites! I respectfully recommend “The Return of the Living Dead” (1985) as well.
Ah yes, everyone knows about evil aliens today thanks to this movie. It had such a larger impact back then. someone has to be first & invent it. Someone has to Keyser Söze. Like i still watch the old 1964 "The Last Man on Earth" (I Am Legend) as it kinda has that first kinda "Zombies" vibes even thou they are technically slow stumbling vampires. Perhaps its kinda comical to watch today, but Vincent Price can certainly perform "being alone & slowly going mad" really well. A little sad how fast paced movies has all become, well everything has become. I mean watching something like Akira Kurosawa's Seven Samurai or The Hidden Fortress (aka the one that inspired Star Wars). But are way to long, slow & has actual exposition. Not that fastpaced cant be done right. Like Bullettrain was a nice surprice. But that is sadly the rare exception.
Watch aliens! Best sequel ever. And the character of ripley can't be overstated as to how influential she was in popular culture. There weren't many female action heroes, not even today. And btw I really hate age prejudiced people. Just because it came before you doesn't mean it's worthless. Or do you think the movies today came from nothing? Everything you watch today wouldn't exist without movies that came before. But that's younger generations today. No imagination and no respect
3:06 Le plateau fut entièrement construit à l'échelle et en une seule unité. Toutes les parties du Nostromo ou de la navette de sauvetage se trouvent réunies et les acteurs ont tourné en situation. Un extrême réalisme avait été exigé des techniciens, et même les faux ordinateurs de bord avaient des cadrans fonctionnels où des chiffres défilaient. Les planètes et les étoiles sont des peintures. La surface de LV-426 est à l'échelle 1/2 et l'intérieur du vaisseau alien également (Les acteurs en scaphandre sur tous les plans larges étaient des enfants pour donner l'illusion d'une échelle 1). La salle des oeufs, le poste de commande alien, le Nostromo et la navette de sauvetage sont des maquettes réduites. L'araignée "fécondeuse" et le bébé alien sont des animatronics (pantins animés électriquement à distance). L'alien adulte est un acteur -danseur en costume. Tout est absolument réel dans le film, le "CGI" n'existait pas. La réussite de ce film repose presque exclusivement sur sa photographie.
Sharing with your Son & making time to watch past movies that your very proud of is great...
Watching Your sons reactions & intrest become more focused must be a good feeling. His comments were funny & inquisitive. You two share equal similarities with your one - liners and goofy comments. He might of been more impressed and think it better than Okay... But, as you consistently goofed & made fun of the actors, the dialog & Sets, along with the cartoon vocal narrations & complaints, plus your critiques & criticism of what the Directors, producers, techs, model builders should have done, allowed him to continue assuming that your generation, along with mine and others Movies are not even close to the levels of today's Films. Why would he want to watch more. Starting off proud and confident. Then roasting & Cheapening a game changing Film, that you said was still great .
(exactly why is calling the computer "mother" stupid? It basically is taking care of them and the ship).
You also might want to introduce your son to one of the oldest top-tier Sci-Fi film, 'Forbidden Planet' (1956). Widely considered by most to be the best Sci-Fi film ever made before '2001: A Space Odyssey'. From a social perspective, they'll likely be a lot that seems problematic, but special-effects wise, the film holds up shockingly well (being 67 years old). However, it's the central plot of the film, the ideas that cause the conflict, that are incredibly far ahead of their time & something few films have ever dealt with.
With 2001 he'll just think everyone was on acid back then. I saw it in Myth and Classical Literature class for the first time (our teacher was a nut) and even though it was trippy I thought it was awesome. Hal is the man.
@@Tdub0911 Theologically/Philosophically I despise the film & I find Kubrik's Pretensious 'Vision' tiresome. (But don't get me wrong, I'm not *arguing* with you.) Yet it's still a masterclass in the art of pure filmmaking & the Special Effects are still rock-solid. All the more when you learn HOW so much of it was done.
(Like instead of using Matte Inserts for the Ships flying, Kubrick's artists PAINTED OUT the stars, as the Ships passed through them. Frame by Frame. I can't imagine how labor-intensive that was, but it holds up brilliantly, even today.)
@torikazuki8701
I can see how it'd be viewed differently. I think I loved it because since I was still on h.s. it was a trippy look into the mind of my insane teacher and it was actually a movie that made you think and go "what the Fu did I just see." I loved HAL too.
@@Tdub0911 HAL (or H.A.L., if you want to get Pedantic) is a fascinating character & a tragic one. The film '2010', while not as 'visionary' as the prior film, is still a very solid movie & reveals WHY HAL did what he did. It's actually heartbreaking.
@torikazuki8701
I was 17, didn't know about AI, surveillance, etc so he was cool.
This movie had ya boy feeling good! He got up…got his close up in, and he was wrong so many times, it intrigued him I 💭 think. The end was all #GenX thanks to pops (which is what my sons call me)…and they hooked! They can’t see the victories we see brother! So they tend to throw up the white flag 🏳! Dads teach em…you see so little and you need me…2 enhance your perspective…my love ❤️
“Movies made before 2000 are completely worthless and not worth his time” that is the most gen Z thing I’ve ever heard lmao
(obviously not all of them think that way, but I see so many zoomers say stuff like this all the time and idk why, the classics should be watched and enjoyed by everyone)
22:55 Thoren, it’s possible that he’s rolling up a doobie. But you can also roll a regular tobacco cigarette. It’s not common nowadays though.
Its not the 70s that compare to the 80s, its the 80s that compare to the 70s and it always come wanting.
The colloquial term is "Face Hugger'.
Married people are "Face Suckers".
I’d like him to see John Carpenter’s remake of The Thing.
28:16 Le script explique que le Nostromo est basiquement une raffinerie flottante, doté d'une gravité et d'une atmosphère artificiels, identiques aux conditions terrestres. Le système de refroidissement du vaisseau fournit eau et chaleur et donc condensation, comme sur la Terre, ce qui provoque les ruissellements dans les immenses silos de stockage des minerais collectés.
Advanced computers are going to have flashing lights everywhere? Close, it's the dash lights in your car that are flashing everywhere, as you're limping to the dealership in 'safe mode'. & As part of the Dad side of things, I gotta say, love this, you guys are great. You have a new sub.
Best I can up with on the rain? Is an elevator shaft with all of the Air Conditioning Condensers, Refrigeration & Freezer Coils backed up to the same shaft allowing them to drip at will from every deck to a collection point down below.
+ He was pulling her closer to kill, not interested in back door sex. Cough cough, like Dad, none of us thought of that at movie's release, but that's the first thought the younger generation of reactors sees. Hmmmm.
In the comic adaptation they make the tail action more clear: the alien loops it around behind the person and stabs them in the back.
@@maxducoudray Thank you. Never saw the comic.
What movie did you watch before this? I’m presuming by his statement: “getting better”.
We watched Predator but had all kinds of camera issues.
For a breakthrough movie with a mixture of comedy and horror , try An American Werewolf In London
3:33 Aaaaaaand, I'm out! Popcorn kid munching so self-righteously! I honestly couldn't continue................
Yeaahhhh...I had to bribe him with the popcorn. Ended up being an editing nightmare. He did say it was the best popcorn he'd ever eaten. That was our first ever reaction. Popcorn is out now.
@@variablevisuals1625 Hahahaha! I think it was the "this is confusing so far", when we were only about a minute in with nothing happening!! Keep up the good works though............
24:12 Yes, very cute indeed. H. R. Giger cute... 🖤😎👍
I hope Thoren realized the acting was way better than 99% of today's self righteous preachy films. All the characters were totally believable.
You are talking like an lld fart of our time. Dont be that guy. Dont repeat the mistakes of the boomers. Stay young.
Oh and by the way the movies of our times were often EXTREMELY MORALISTIC, snd of the worst kind, the rightwing kind. Dont put the rosetinted nostalgia goggles, they rott your eyes and brain.
@@carlossaraiva8213 Better than the leftwing energy of films today that can't even say jokes because the pussies of today can't take it. The leftists have ruined comedy.
cant really give a score basing it on whats predicteble in such a old movie, it may as well be 1st of its kind with the typical spooky tricks, but ofc it aint, but its been... quite some time now soooooo.. good call ;3
The computer is operating on established protocols. When it was created it was programmed with what to do if alien life is encountered, to wit: Return organism to Earth, all other considerations secondary, crew expendable.
I wonder if you wanted to make a movie like this today with all practical effects, would the skills still be available to do it ?
That's a great question. I watched a reaction to The Thing last night from a horror art person. She was in shock and awe over the practical effects. I wonder as well if this is something that gets passed down or is slowly being phased out due to CG.
@variablevisuals1625 this guy rants (justifiably) about how autotune is destroying modern music. It is even being retro fitted to classic bands like Queen and the Eagles.
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They need to bring back those skills. Stop relying so heavily on cgi that it looks unrealistic and crappy. Start blending the 2 again like they did in LOTR and Jurassic Park.
Practical effects are largely part of what scared the crap out of us back then. The monsters, etc looked real enough to touch.
@@toodlescaeThere are some people committed to practical effects and sets, like Christopher Nolan and most recent Star Wars content. But it would be nice if it were the norm, because it often looks better and produces better performances by immersing the actors.
You should do terminator next!
Great of you dad! 2 bring him on in to the fold! Welcome Thoren! Love the name your father bestowed upon you…lol… booty wine 🍷…if it was served by a lovely lady…. #SigourneyWeaver … I might take a glass 🥃
If he *truly* believes that, he clearly has NO love for cinema, what’s the point? The youth in particular, are becoming increasingly incapable of sitting down for 10 minutes, let alone 2+ hours, and getting completely lost in an outstanding character study.
the company they all work for i believe programed the computer and sent the science guy along just in case they found other stuff and bring it back and screw the crew and nothing went in her butt
Thoren needs an education. Most movies after 2007 or so aren't worth a damn.
Well, he can watch/react to "Gravity Falls" (2012-2016), then.
47:19 Ce n'est pas sa bouche, c'est sa langue, mais elle est un peu spéciale, elle est mobile, flexible et... elle a des dents. Cet étrange idée, comme tout le reste de la créature et son système de gestation, sont le fruit du cerveau délirant du sculpteur et dessinateur suisse Hans Rudi Giger, dans les moindres détails anatomiques ou esthétiques.
Thorens opinion seems a little typical of his age. There were so many classic and amazing movies made before 2000. If anything, since 2000 there has been a shift with dvd and streaming and it been easier to make and distribute a film, there have been way more awful and ridiculous movies made than ever before. I mean, there are like 6 or 7 Sharknado movies, they are popular with a certain demographic. I’m personally not a fan of CGI and with a few exceptions, it usually looks pretty fake and detracts from the movie as a whole. Alien, especially because it came out in 1979, is a masterpiece of film. If you can’t see that or appreciate its impact on movie making and even popular culture then you’re blind to so much. Alien is in my top ten horror and sci-fi, if not the top five. Amazing movie… ok, I’ll get off my high horse now. Good day, sir.
too bad not bigger movie screen
you 2 watch a Movie without watching it, pay f.......g attention what's happening. And when your son thinks old Movies are not worth watching, better going to get him out of his dream , all the old Movies even Charlie Chaplin Movies are better what is produced today.
Fun fact: During the chest bursting scene, none of the actors were told what was going to happen. Their reactions were real.
Fun fact: That's complete bullshit. They all knew what was going to happen.
No, they did know.
Yeah, I think it’s more that they didn’t know *exactly* how it was set up. So the volume of blood and gore was a shock to those other than John Hurt. There is an element of honest reactions in that moment.
That's a shame that is his default position. So many great films and he probably will never see them.
Alien is timeless not old.
"All of the movies before 2000 are a waste of time."
I feel very sorry for your generation.😞
Wait until your dad, definitely a man of higher cultural standards, let you watch Robocop, Total Recall, Predator or Tarantino's first movies like Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. You'll come around, bruh.
I feel the same way sometimes about his generation... We're trying to turn that around. We did watch Predator but the camera shut off after 30 minutes.... He thought that was "pretty cool" so you and I are on the same page when it comes to what's coming up next! Thanks for the comment!
or nightmare on elm street, or maybe even jaws
How about that Hipster Horror, Black-and-White movies? "Casablanca" (1942) has it all: Humor, Romance, Drama.
Too old? "C'mon C'mon" (2021) may change your mind. Getting back to post World War II movies, "Psycho" (1960) is top-of-his-game Alfred Hitchcock. "Raging Bull" and "The Elephant Man" (1980) are prime greyscale movies.