Marvel Needs a Street Level Avengers
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- We have MCU galactic teams, but Marvel needs the street level Avengers. The Marvel Cinematic Universe is so concerned with world-ending cosmic threats, that we've forgotten abut plain old crime. Daredevil, Spider-Man, Falcon, and more--Marvel needs to show them on the streets, taking care fo the evil that falls through the cracks.
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#MCU #Streetlevel #avengers
The Marvel cinematic universe has been giving us a lot recently: magic, the multiverse, time travel, space, cosmic gods, aliens gods, actual gods, cameos, and so much more.
And that’s awesome, it's a great time to be a Marvel fan.
But you know what is the one thing that is missing for me in the MCU right now?
Crime.
Yeah actual crime, as is people doing bad and illegal things on the street level. And the only way to stop those bad guys are crime fighters.
Heroes who are not so overpowered that they can now only deal with Avengers level threats.But rather street level heroes and vigilantes.
Crime fighters who deal with smaller scale threats, fighting the endless war against crime, greed and the darkest facets of human nature.
Heroes who are the only hope for the little guy.
That’s what I have been missing with the MCU’s Spider-Man.
I love No Way Home, it’s amazing, but after spider-man saved the universe, we really need to go back to basics.
Bring Marvel’s friendly-neighborhood hero…back to the not so friendly neighborhood.
Marvel recently announced the Daredevil disney plus show, there’s also the Echo spin off in the works, maybe Hawkeye will get another season. So that’s a good sign that there’s going to be more focus on the street level side of the MCU.
But it’s too few and far between. There’s no clear distinction between the heroes, and the type of threats they face.
And many heroes who are crime fighters in the comics are transformed into superpowered superheroes in the MCU.
It sort of feels like Marvel kinda forgot about the street-level stories.
I can’t be the only one that is missing this [clip]. We need more of this [clip].
So let’s take a look at how Marvel can fix their much needed street-level stories, and add more crime fighters in the MCU.
But first, we need to examine the problem Marvel has with adapting crime fighters.
The most recent and obvious exemple is the translation of Moon Knight from comics to live action.
Comics Moon Knight is as street-level as you can get. He’s a brutal and seriously messed up vigilante who primarily fights criminals.
At times Moon Knight deals with supernatural threats, but even those tend to be on a smaller scale. That allows Moon Knight’s stories to remain dark, gritty and grounded.
He doesn’t have a magical suit and he has no powers given to him by a god.
Say the following like you are so tired of making the comparison: And yeah, Moon Knight is sort of like Batman.
Which is the same as saying that Homelander is like Superman.
If you know Moon Knight, then you know that the similarities between him and Batman are extremely surface level.
Moon Knight’s vigilante antics make him into one of the most fascinating crime fighters in the comics.
Yet, almost all of these elements were completely changed for the MCU adaptation.
The show itself was good, I enjoyed it a lot. And it got a lot of things right, like Marc’s DID.
However, we can’t ignore the drastic changes that the MCU made to Moon Knight. The character was refitted to fit into a supernatural direction.
Marvel likely chose to make the change, so that Moon Knight can join the Midnight Sons.
A team of anti-heroes who deal with supernatural threats.
Something we theorized on the channel a while back.
And that’s fine. It’s their property, so Marvel can take whatever creative license they want with their characters.
Though, it becomes a problem if every crime fighter now has superpowers and deals with Avenger level threats.
What does that leave for the smaller scale underbelly?
Another thing that makes the 'street level' actions more interesting (in my opinion) is that they also tend to be more personal. As a character, I was far more invested in Wilson Fisk than I ever was in Thanos, for example. The struggles of the heroes also tend to be more relatable, making them more human. There needs to be a balance between the small and big threats.
I literally want the Punisher back as Jon Bernthal. This actor is just a fucking talented badass. I also really want to see him team up with other street heroes again. Maybe also in an Avengers-Event (like the fight in Endgame, where literally everyone comes to help). Jon Bernthal is just perfect bro, just perfect, to the last minute details
Come on he has to be TVMA R rated Does the MCU is now having mature content why not the punisher Deadpool and Marvel zombies first two Marvel Studios adult content.
I 100% agree about Bernthal. He has a thing he can do just with his eyes that would twist my heart into knots every single time he did it. You could SEE how much emotional pain he was feeling, just like... all the time. Every time he'd cross the line and you'd start to think 'holy shit dude, this is too much', he'd do that look and suddenly you'd remember that yes, it's too much, but he's coming from a perspective skewed by so much grief and pain that there's no way he's going to be able to see that. Totally separate from the violence, I think his story is one that the kinds of writers that Disney is employing right now could do wonders with. Honestly, give me that story, the story of grief and despair written in blood with the delicate touch and emotional brutality that Marvel has proven capable of in stuff like Moon Knight and WandaVision, and I'd be just fine if it wasn't an absolute gorefest.
His trainer posted a pic of him and jon saying in the caption cant wait to work in phase 5 or sum like that so i think hes coming back in the daredevil show
@@tokehella899 OMG YES
@@purplecat4977 yeah came out couple months ago and multiple reliable leakers I follow on Twitter have been hearing the same so I think he’s def coming back
Smaller scaled stories is what made These heroes and stories great. I would love to see Spider-Man, the defenders and more to be the street level. I loved street level content in marvel. That’s what made me enjoy marvel. Hopefully they go back soon with more.
I remember when the Punisher season 1 dropped the same year as Guardians of the Galaxy 2. It's surreal to watch Bernthal gun through bad guys like an 80's action movie and remember it exists in the same world as an anthropomorphic racoon and tree from space. Imagine a scene where Frank meets Rocket...
i love hawkeye so so so much for this exact reason. it was amazing watching a hero we've only seen fighting w the avengers in huge scale movies going back to the streets and taking on the small stuff. it felt exactly like the comics in that way.
Thank you for giving Hawkeye the respect he deserves!!! I get so sick of people disrespecting Clint Barton and not honoring him for the badass he was in the comics AND in all the movies AND in his TV show! Thank you, Jabari!! 🤗🤗🤗
I agree! When he's fighting aliens we relate to the normal person in him, then when he's back in front of normal people it shows how skilled he really is
@@trevorglodowski4887 I forget exactly how it went but he even touched on it in Age of Ultron lol. “The city is flying, there’s an army of robots, and I have a bow and arrow. None of this makes sense.” 😂
The IDEA of the series was nice, and it had nice moments in the first episode when it focused on Clint's PTSD, but the rest of the series was unwatchable slapstick garbage. Tried too hard to emulate Matt Fraction's Hawkeye run but failed to realize that doesn't work if our universe's Hawkeye just went on a 5-year long rage-fueled murder spree. Half the show focuses on Echo, the Yelena return plotline was ruined by being rushed, and Kingpin is practically a completely different character from when we last saw him. I just totally hated the show. And I wanted to like it! I've always felt Clint deserved more respect! But that show was NOT it.
Also, I forgot all about Kate Bishop. Probably cuz the show did too. Kate was fine but absolutely everything involving her family was unbearable. I don't care about her mom, the stepdad misdirect plotline is terrible and pointless, just ugh. Totally unnecessary. Kate could've been anyone she doesn't need to be some hacker heiress
@@GameMageVideos im sorry the show didn't meet your expectations. i also do kind of agree with the kingpin tonal whiplash lol
I love when Ryan gives notes to the Marvel writers. 😄
I like the down to earth combat style to come back. Haven't had that since civil war
punisher is the greatest person to do it. he is dark ,knows exactly who he is , doesn't want to go up the ladder and is perfect for street level.
while the universe faces multitude of life threatening threats , the crime on the streets increased impacting women and children especially ,frank castle who lost his children and wife ,can not take it siting down even though he does not want to fight. so he draws the skull once again .perfect
Moon Knight's last appearance in the current Avengers line had him super duper powerful. & Shang chi was always sold to me as he has no powers, like Hawkeye, but is such an amazing fighter, that he's on their level.
I was wondering why this video flowed so good but I realized at the end it didn't have Doug interrupting every other line.
We need Doug-free alternatives to the episodes
I’m so hyped because of the MCU content in this year, really can’t wait for AM3, that gets me through the month 🎉
Yes yes yes! I've been playing Spider-Man Miles Morales recently and a lot of what you do in those games is patrol Manhattan, dealing with people's problems and making your neighbourhood that little bit more friendly.
Who should be in the street-level Avengers?
DD, Punisher, Echo, JJ, Iron Fist (Colleen Wing), Luke Cage, Hellcat and Misty Knight.
Spider-Man, She-Hulk, Kate Bishop, Jessica Jones, Daredevil, Luke Cage and Iron Fist
I would love to see Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Colleen Wing, Misty Knight, Punisher, Echo, Hellcat (if they choose to reboot her from being a villain in JJ Season 3), Moon Knight, Spider-Man, Elektra, and/or Shang-Chi (although he is busy with non-street level shit rn) be part of this team. I also really hope they bring back Typhoid Mary from IF Season 2.
@@endergoldman9965 West Coast Avengers could take at least Shang Chi. Any combination of the rest would be great
Captain America, She hulk, Kate bishop, Spider-Man, War machine, Punisher,Dare devil,Echo,Jessica jones, iron fist, Luke cage, White tiger, Ant man wasp and Cassie, Hellcat, wolverine, Colleen wing, moon knight,Shang chi,Dead pool,Blade, Colleen wing, misty knight, cloak and dagger, runaways, Ms marvel, Ghost rider, Daisy Johnson.
It’s so weird that this video came out today, because yesterday I believe it was for the first time I was thinking to myself has there ever actually been just normal criminals in the MCU, like a movie based around a criminal(s), and also which was also brought up later in the video I was thinking was have they ever had a criminal motivated by money, and I really was thinking about all the movies specifically if I remember correctly and I couldn’t think of a single bad guy like this, and then you drop this video, point is either we’re in a simulation, or the government and big companies are colluding in hacking our thoughts. Only thing that makes sense to me 🤷♂️😅
I agree I feel like everything is end of the world level threats and out there concepts.
I would love, love, love to see another Hawkeye, with Kate Bishop fully taking on the mantle. Jeremy Renner's in pretty rough shape right now and although I'm sure he will recover for the most part, I don't think it's realistic that he'll ever get back to the point of being able to do the stunts/action he's done before. He could use this in his acting, making it feel very real. I can imagine a plot where Clint Barton gets attacked by an entity or organization, and Kate Bishop seeks revenge. She is further tutored and guided by Clint but has to do all the hard work completely on her own. It could make for a really good story, with Renner using his real-life trauma to inform and enrich his performance.
Th hallway fight scene in the Daredevil TV series is one of the greatest street-level fights in all of American television.
and legendary
Definitely agree! Not every movie needs to be a huge event. Some of the best stories are the simplest ones. And not every movie or show needs to directly connect to the overarching story of the phase.
Agreed! I'm hoping Daredevil and a second season of Moonknight will address this issue!
There's something about the street level stories that hold more weight than the world-ending ones where aliens invade. I guess because the human element is there, and you can tell some great stories just because of human nature. It's more relatable which makes it more compelling in my eyes. Now that Spider-Man is no longer an Avenger and Daredevil is getting his own show, we can get some more of those street level stories in the MCU. It's been my main gripe for years, how we hardly got any street level stories and every hero is essentially an Avenger.
Defenders and Midnight Sons team up is a must!
Werewolf by Night is the building block of how Marvel should handle the dark tone and down to earth stake
Not just dark tone but also dark subject matter,if you dealing with the supernatural you should definitely dive into the subject matter in that world like black magic and cults
The Luke Cage power Man series did a real good job at keeping it at street level
4:26 I absolutely love that line because it perfectly encapsulates what the Punisher is all about. Anyway, you’re totally right that Marvel show show more street-level crime-fighting.
I want to see spiderman joking around when he's teaming up with moon knight or daredevil haha
I think Midnight Sons, Defenders, and West Coast Avengers could all work as street level hero movies/ shows.
No no at all the whole point of street level it that it needs to have lawer level heros
I think they're going on the west coast Avengers or maybe young Avengers route
I think we also need greed on the hero side too. Titania was amazing on that front. Give me a good Heroes for Hire. Any vigilante with a cam streaming their stunts and doing shit is a good ground for a story (like the original Civil war)
Great video!!! And you couldn't have spoken a more true idea!!!
Yes and also we need a Dark Avengers or Avengers of the Supernatural/ Midnight Sons.
i want to see Spiderman with Punisher,
it's the darkest time in Peter MCU right now, that + venom symbiote, and add influence to violence from Punisher, we can see some real destructive spiderman
Falcon & Winter Soldier, Hawkeye, Moon Knight, She Hulk, Ant Man and Ant Man & Wasp & Black Widow are all my idea of street level crime (to an extent so is Iron Man 1 & 2)…
Don't forget the Midnight Angels as well. I would imagine that will also be street level. The same with Iron Heart.
Even if MCU Spider Man 4 is going to be a street level film where he meets the other members of the Defenders, he's just going to get thrown back into the bigger scale stories because he's going to be needed for Avengers The Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars. Plus, we're going to be getting the MCU's X-Men take and some of their stories are street level based, so I think we're all good.
I just saw Mike Colter in the movie Plane last week. Boy, was he pumped. He looked physically ready to play Luke Cage again. That is as street level as it gets. Supposed Fisk has him framed and Matt Murdock has to defend him which turns into an all-out tactical street war with Fisk. In fact, both Cage, Jones, and Punisher are purposely framed. Fisk has all the reason in the world to get these heroes out of the way. All you need is a great writer and director.
Honestly I consider Iron man 1 and 2 to some extent, spider-man homecoming, the netflix shows Ant man 1 and 2, Cloak and Dagger, Falcon and the winter soldier, hawkeye, and She-hulk to be grounded/Street level in the MCU.
I recently finished the Cloak & Dagger series and I kinda want to see more of them in the future, especially with their new Roxxon origin
Me: wow, this show is actually really good. Loved these characters as a kid, and they're nailing it. Runaways was good too. Maybe they can all join the MCU proper.
Marvel: CANCELED!
Me: 😭
Marvel: instead here's Black Widow 3 years too late, and She-Hulk kinda!
Me: 😐
With more street level heroes and stories you can say a lot more about the world around us - Luke Cage talked about police violence against the black community and about gentrification. Jessica Jones about PTSD and trauma (And Killgrave was a great villain). You can’t tell a story about serious social issues when the main villain can throw a moon at the heroes.
Great video, I totally agree!!!
I’d love a movie with Spider-Man, Moon Knight, DD, Blade and maybe Spider-Gwen all joining up.
Ever since the Netflix series’ ended, I have maintained the belief that a Disney+ Heroes for Hire series would do very well. The basic premise is that Misty Knight has quit the force due to ideological differences regarding powered people and how they are being treated by the police when they are vigilantes or bystanders, and how the police are ill equipped to deal with powered criminals. With financial backing from Luke Cage and the investigative talent of Jessica Jones, Misty founds Heroes For Hire, which is advertised as a kind of dispatcher for the burgeoning street level hero population, but the show would be structured like a crime drama. The original Defenders would have limited guest starring roles, as the focus would be on new characters such as White Tiger, Rampage, Ghost Rider, Night-thrasher and others. The show would then take the best well received characters and spin them off into their own limited Disney+ series and specials.
I agree. When everything is a huge stake then the huge stakes aren’t that huge anymore.
Greed is good for a motivation but I like when they are a multilayer criminal. For instance vulture began because he had invested his savings into doing this job and damage control took it away. So he started doing the job but then got greedy because he liked the money. I just don’t want to see one dimensional characters who are just “oh money good! Killing good. Me like”
That why I loved PS4's spiderman garage invasion. Yeah I can fight a primordial spirit of electrokinesis but sometimes you just have to go into a den of bad guys and mop the floor.
There are so many great options, Jessica Drew or Julia Carpenter's Spiderwoman, Cloak & Dagger, Greer Nelson's journey from the Cat to Tigra, Sleep Walker, Puck, Dominic Fortune, Paladin, Silver Sable, White Tiger, Swordsman, the Sons of the Tiger (showing my age here), Night Thrasher, Stacy X, Rage and in the UK, the Union Jack and Pete Wisdom maybe. Even the modern versions of Arabian Knight, Sabra, Red Wolf and American Eagle might work.
I've been saying this about every superhero movie. It doesn't have to be about a world threat. Even with Batman it's always some huge threat with Gotham at risk each time.
I've been saying for a while it would ve great if Marvel can do what Netflix did with the Defenders but with better execution. It would be cool if Disney + was building up a narrative that ended in a "Infinity War/End Game" esque climax fir *Street Level characters", and the MCU did something similar that required the Avengers to face off against 🤔
I just want to see Spider-Man and Daredevil team up against Fisk
What about Echo?? That should definitely be about crime fighting.
I love's Jon's version of Punisher but I also loved Thomas as Punisher in the somewhat campy Punisher movie. Both were excellent takes.
I whole-heartedly agree Ryan!
Notice how the "Streets" always just ends up being New York? 🤣
well said! DareDevil and Punisher were always my favs.
I hope that Spider-Man 4 will have a lot of the normal criminal characters from the comics like Slivermane, Hammerhead and Tombstone.
And I guess the big street level team up could be bringing down the Maggia
Who else thinks that a Moonknight, Spider-man, Daredevil, Kate Bishop, and Yelena would make an hilarious team? I would TOTALLY watch that!
They all enter a spooky old crypt underneath a dilapidated mansion. MK yells out to... Dracula! The others hesitate, even Yelena is at the ready. Dracula, king of vampires. Werewolf By Night even feared him. Blade, his greatest failure was that he couldn't take him out when last they'd met.
"Where my $ bitch", MK says. And Drac just looks annoyed. Because Marvel has to make a *****ing joke out of everything these days.
Just leave Spidey and DD alone and give them good solo projects . It's becoming so irritating to see good cameos forced into trash shows just to get some highlights .
Nah punisher daredevil all the marvel Netflix show characters and spider man will be a great team
This is why I am waiting for Daredevil Born Again for so eagerly.
In this MCU that has the multiverse on the way, it's nice that they take a break and go to the street. 😌
Moon Knight can still fight street level criminals even in his suit. We knew he has killed a lot of people for Khonshu.
Yeah we know but the show and how the other shows of Disney+ work is that they follow a plot and a bad guy/bad guy groups so they don't give much room to random fights against criminals so they follow the plot
I watch these videos mainly because of how well put together and thought out they seem. While a good number of times I agree with the content, this is one of the few times I don't. I found the bigger stuff to be refreshing from the ordinary street mob boss type crime. Sure the MCU was mostly cosmic with Phase 4, but the entire history of superhero movies altogether has been mostly ordinary street level crime bosses. Also, I don't think a hero's potential or ceiling should be determined by the threats they face. It limits them from what they could become. That's not to say no street level stuff. But in hindsight that stuff has been done way more across the superhero genre.
Well moon knight has super strength and healing factor given by khonshu but he stitches his suit by himself like Spiderman and daredevil but it would make him very similar to them so his origin story got changed I guess 👌
I would like to see Deathlok done better. X-23 ( intro the Morlocks). Cloak and Dagger. White Tiger, Darkhawk, Rocket and Groot Bounty Hunt on Earth. Oh and Spiderman 4 No way Crom ( Spidey sent to Hibernia to meet your friendly neighborhood Barbarian not named Dave.
The fact that the Fortnite Icon for moon knight is used in the thumbnail has me dying for no reason at all
I mean we got a taste of that with defenders. The mcu tackling that would be great as well and it looks like they are gearing up for that. Add in the fact that some x men shine in the street level they have a good recipe for great street level goodness.
Love the punisher rewatchin it again
Huge respect for including Matt Berry in IT Crowd
Iron Fist season 2 actually ended on a point where I really wanted to see what happened next, it felt like they were fixing their earlier mistakes and creating something really fun only for it to get cancelled almost immediately.
I kind of agree, but really I would just like more of Jessica Henwick's Colleen and Tom Pelphrey's Ward, because they were my favorite part of the show.
Yea I agree. Same with Luke Cage. And in season 2 of LC that was when they pretty much rewrote Danny and made him more like his comic book version (in other words he developed as a character off screen). They showed that Finn Jones actually can be a good Iron Fist if they give him good material to work with. That episode was awesome and I feel like we were eventually gonna get a Heroes for Hire series with Danny and Luke. Not to mention season 2 of IF was a vast improvement and, like you said, I really wanted to see where they were going from there. Hopefully Marvel/Disney gives them the Daredevil treatment but not to the fullest extent (aka bringing them back and continuing or soft rebooting their stories, not making them a joke like they did DD).
@@akilbrazier1421 This is why I always say keep Finn as Ironfist, just reboot his story. He is great even if the show wasn't. But I also didn't enjoy JJ's show as much as most.
@@BlackHedgehog Yea Finn gets too much shit from the public imo. The first season his character wasn’t written that well and he didn’t get enough time to truly learn the martial arts moves required for the role because they rushed production of the show. In season 2 the fight choreography and characters were written much better. Not to mention it was only 10 episodes instead of 13 since 13 made it seem like it was dragging. I was excited for where they were going after the season but rebooting his story for the MCU like you said wouldn’t be a bad idea either. Plus maybe we’ll finally get his comic book costume costume which they held out on us on when it was on Netflix lol.
@@akilbrazier1421 Which is hilarious since both Daredevil and Luke got their costumes and technically they teased Jessica's.
Thanks for the video. And no Iron Fist, unless there is a recast.
This. 100% this. Have been discussing this with my MCU friends as well. Explore the post and during snap, explore crime during both these eras, and build heros with limited but good powers. I want to get away from power creep and do more layers of power amongest heros and villians. Have stronger villians use and play less strong ones like pawns while the heros of all power levels team up every once and awhile. Freshen things up by being more story oriented
any reason why you didnt mention she hulk? she is also a good fit for the street level crime world, its kind of exactly what daredevil was telling her she should be doing and for her to start using her she-hulk powers to help people outside the courtroom would be a good way to follow up on that conversation from the tv show, as well as a nice lil parallel with daredevil
Not she not really she doesn't dealing with the kind of people that punisher dealing with
Lots of good points. There's quite a bit to unpack here.
First, I completely agree that Marvel needs more street level threats and that people like Thor, Captain Marvel, etc... are not very well suited for that type of story.
Second, more Moon Knight would be high on my list. Now, I don't think that he necessarily needs to be depowered. Yes, he curbstomps the only regular thugs he fights while he has his powers. However, Luke Cage is bulletproof, knifeproof, etc... and that didn't at all take away from interesting street level stories with him. The original Moench run of Moon Knight comics was amazing, and it certainly could work with him being depowered, but I also liked the version with armor that was bulletproof and healed him, a small degree of super strength, and making crescent darts/escrima sticks/grapples/etc... materialize in his hand.
Third, a better version of Iron Fist would be great. Now, this would likely have one foot in fantasy with his backstory. Actually, it would be a good fit for crossing over with Moon Knight with the heroes who have some magic-based powers and operate on the street. An origin story that is more linear than the first series would be nice. For instance, actually showing more of Kun'Lunn, seeing Danny train, and showing the battle with Shou-Lao the Undying would be good. Also, for there to be more of an understanding of the legacy of the Iron Fist is needed. There was a video in the Iron Fist show where Orson Randall was in an all-black Iron Fist costume and fought some soldiers, but that was it. For the costume to be ceremonial garb that other Iron Fists have worn would help cement the character as a costumed hero.
Fourth, more Punisher could be good. I haven't read many Punisher comics. I don't think his strength is in solo stories. That isn't to say that there aren't good Punisher stories, I just think he works better as a guest star in other heroes' stories. He's so realistic that it seems to work well in other stories, but not as good solo. For instance, a highly decorated soldier losing his family to crime and then exterminating criminals is extremely believable. However, when he crosses over with heroes like Spider-Man and Dardevil it becomes far more interesting. His appearance in season 2 of Daredevil was how the character really shines. Nothing against his own show, but there are lots of action movies with skilled combatants using military weapons to kill bad guys (not even that action movies are bad, they can be great; in a universe with superheroes, aliens, magic, etc... it's not really what I want stories to focus on).
Finally, better street level villains are an absolute must. Kingpin is brilliantly cast, but there need to be more. Owl, Jackal, Mister Fear, the Enforcers, the Trapster, Hammerhead, the Chameleon (probably with the special belt like the 90's cartoon rather than full disguises like the Lee/Ditko comics), Steel Serpent, Raol Bushman (referenced in Moon Knight, but not shown), Jack Frost, Grey Gargoyle, Whiplash, Scorpion, Ringmaster and the Circus of Crime, Molten Man, the Prowler (who was sort of in Spider-Man: Homecoming), Tarantula, Puppet Master, the Mad Thinker, Purple Man, Matador, Gladiator (the Daredevil villain, not the member of the Shiar Imperial Guard), Cobra, Jester, the Living Laser (the original version with the wrist-mounted lasers, not the versions that was literally a living laser), Whirlwind, and Radioactive Man (might be too much of a standard villain for street level). Also, there are some street level villains that could work, but might be too cheesy without some major adjustments (Porcupine, the Melter, Unicorn, and Stilt Man).
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Yeah totally. One thing about the original Marvel, Spidey never joined the Avengers because he didn't want to. It kind of made him seem more real. They had some meeting 15 or so years ago give or take, and they had a big discussion about why Spidey should or shouldn't join the Avengers in the way all the biggest DC characters joined the Justice League. Personally I think it took away from his originality a bit. Also, another street level thing I'd really like to see - Jamie Madrox (Multiple Man), Guido Carosella and crew as private investigators who use their mutant powers when they need to (from the X-Factor Investigations comics). Thanks for the video.
Street-level heroes aren't just found in DC or Marvel, there are tons of superhero genres with street-level heroes. The best example of this, would be Ladybug from Miraculous Ladybug. She's someone who deals with not only world-ending events, but also, is takes on street-level crime in Paris, not unlike her basis, Spider-Man. If you think about it, both Ladybug and Spider-Man have relatively similar traits. They're both teens that struggle with everyday life, but at the same time, they use the powers they were given, to protect their home cities. And of course, they both also happen to have a thing for partners who dress up like cats.
I’d like to see the Spidey college trilogy & other street-level shows lead to Kingpin as the big bad. You can have him pay or make deals with Mr. Negative, Scorpion, & Black Cat (who switches sides & reveals the truth to Peter later). Human Torch, Felicia, & Yuri Watanabe would be a great supporting cast.
Maybe Fisk can become Mayor & hire Silver Sable as his security to protect him from a vengeful Hobgoblin in a detective whodunnit mystery who could be Kingsley or they could pull a twist & make it his son, Richard Fisk. That way all the antagonists are linked to him in some way until it leads to a Heroes for Hire gang war crossover ft. Spidey, Kate, Echo, & the Defenders taking down NY’s top mob bosses.
Finn Jones (who played Iron Fist) is the only Netflix Marvel actor I would definitely not have come back. Well, pretty much everyone from that show, but especially him.
Here is the Finn Jones school of acting to portray Danny Rand: every time somebody says anything react by exhaling loudly through your nose. The end.
Michael Jai White as Luke Cage would crush. He could do a lot of stuff honestly and it’s wild he hasn’t appeared in the MCU yet. He’s great. Between his comedic approach, stellar martial arts background, and his stature, this role is almost tailor made for him.
It’s over for DISNEY/marvel
There’s no coming back from HULK doing yoga
This seems like spider-man to me. I have a 5 year old and watch a lot of the kids spider-man shows and that’s kind of all they focus on is street level threats…rhino robs a hot dog stand, or doc oc steals vibranium from the museum to use it to make herself the most powerful person in the city or world. That was the spider-man I knew growing up, as I was just a casual fan. Spider-man would need to be the leader of this movement for Disney to be able to make sense of it, and follow thru with it and put out big budget films focused around this. I don’t see it happening, one they don’t have control over the spider-man movies, sony does… I see them using the tv shows for street level crime stories, and trying to continue to go bigger with the movies. And using the tv shows as a stepping stone to write bigger roles in motion pictures for the ones they see will be worth it, which will also make that super hero have increasing powers. At least if they continue down the path they are on.
Hi Ryan, love your videos, I watch mostly all of them relating to comics. I would love to see a video on how if kang created the timeline, how did the celestial create this universe and what about the gods. How are they connected to kang and do their variants exist in every universe or do they just exist in one dimension like the quantum realm. Expecting to see a video on this soon. Thanks.
Agree wholeheartedly. More opportunity to write relatable and culturally topical content as well with this level of super-heroing. Daredevil, Punisher, Pleeeease a Re-Boot of Iron-Fist, Hellcat, White Tiger, Union Jack, Misty Knight and Power Man are all good options (but mainly Union Jack).
It’s called The Defenders, it should consist of Spider-Man, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Hellcat, Elektra, The Punisher, Misty Knight, Colleen Wing, Mockingbird, Hawkeyes, Moon Knight, Deadpool, Cap, White Wolf, Echo, Moon Knight, Swordsman & Falcon 2.
This has reminded me to go rewatch Daredevil
I wonhundredpercent agree😂I talk texted and I am leaving that. When I was a kid, captain America was a street level guy and I am kinda miffed that they didn’t get that with Steve. I hope Sam gets some street level action before the big story kicks in. The highway fight in Winter Soldier is still one of the best scenes in the MCU and it was pretty street. Those were my favorite books back then (early eighties) Cap, Spidey, Daredevil, Powerman and Iron Fist and so on. They deserve series and not because they don’t fight Kaiju but because their stories are more complex and need time to simmer.
ok... I feel like the street level heroes could be
spider man, she hulk, daredevil, the punisher, venom, Shang chi, Kate bishop, Hawkeye and maybe iron fist.
the reason I wouldn't put moon knight is there is cause he's the avatar of a god. In the comics he makes his own suit but what if kang would change it so khonshu would always have marc/steven as khonshus avatar. But I do agree with a lot of the things you say it sounds reasonable that there should be a street level avengers team to take on criminals.
Who should be the street-level Big Bad?
kingpin
Any of the various NYC business tycoons that aren't Kingpin + The Hand
Norman Osborne
@@bruced6543 Osborne isn't on the MCU Earth anymore, remember?
@@joeleboeuf That could be rebooted
I'd love to see Spider-Man 4 deal with the Mob .
Team up Spidey and Daredevil .
Also have hero/ villain Silver Sable in this . Eventually Helping because she can now see her father Silvermane for what he is . A villain .
Have them fight Kingpin , Hammer Head , Silvermane , Tombstone ..
Have Tombstone messed up from taking a second hand Super Soldier Serum .
Silvermane in an exo skeleton like Whiplash .
Hammerhead a messed plate in his head that's vibranium .
Kingpin who seemed more powerful in Hawkeye took the serum from Falcon and the Winter Soldier .
All those classic Spider-man and Daredevil villains in Spider-Man 4 .
Throw in Bullseye , Paladin , and Shocker too .
I'd love to see that .
The secret identity from loved ones becomes annoying
Agreed 100%. I'm sure u guys are familiar with the defenders tv shows. They are the street level heroes that the MCU needs. Besides iron fist, all of them are pretty decent at the very least. They already have developed characters like Misty Knight, Colleen Wing, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones and more. Cloak and Dagger, another forgotten marvel show, definitley needs to come back. We already have these street level heroes developed, so please bring them back
Luke Cage is boring as street leel hero, nobody can damage with normal weapons which is what you expect from street fights not the specific made to deal with him weapons.
He can cheat every battle, seriously who thought he was a good street level hero
@@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu did u watch the show? Cos the villains always found a way to hurt Cage somehow.
@@brownboy8665 Yeah, and that made it worse, the fact that your villains have to create an specific way to deal with him shows he is in a different league.
In S2 I don't know how Bushmaster (or whatever his name was) hurt him when he tanked a bazooka explosion.
I remember there were a lot of moments where LC was angry to the bad guys so he just went directly to their hideouts and dismantle them with no effort at all, it was so boring.
The most interesting thing in that show were the villains of S1, and one of them was killed in a very stupid way.
I agree, street level is needed more. Grounds the other stories
Funny because I was just watching Luke Cage season 2 ep 10 last night and I remembered that was when Finn Jones’ Iron Fist had a character overhaul which showed that that guy can in fact be a good IF when given good material. And it also showed how much fun a Heroes for Hire teamup would be. Like a 6-10 episode series worth. That was one of the best episodes out of the whole Netflix Marvel catalog and we need more of that for the MCU. I also prefer both Mike and Finn come back for their roles and the series also featured Misty and Colleen (also same actresses). I personally hope they continue from where both shows left off (or set a while after) but if they decide to soft reboot then I wouldn’t be too mad at that I guess.
Not to mention I obviously want all the Defenders and Punisher back too
Luke Cage(although you can easily make a case for him to be Avenger level) JJ, Iron fist, Blade, Moonknight.
Yes. Big yes. Nailed it with this vid.
100% agree ⚡️
AND for a lot of fans… WINTER SOLDIER invariably appears right up there as a gold standard MCU movie which has to be cos the action & fight sequences are more street level…
totally down for grittier, more visceral 1-on-1 physical fighting with the likes of Spidey, DD, Punisher, Yelena Belova, Moon Knight, Okoye & the Dora Milaje, Misty Knight & Colleen Wing and Shang Chi - as you point out, all the characters are there to deliver on this…
def feels like Feige KNOWS it’s sorely lacking and is working to rebalance it! 💥
Whoevers in control is driving it into the ground, that why Daredevil and the Punisher were so popular they focused on the character and story not a macguffin of some item the hero needs to get. Which to think about it is the whole plot of Dr Strange Multiverse of Madness and Thor Love and Thunder.
I just read an article saying they added 2 Arrowverse writers on to the Daredevil Born Again show. This worries me.
We've got Sharon, the 10 rings, Fisk and Val coming so feel like it's coming soon
Worst part of Iron Fist was they seemed to Just about to commit to the Brubaker and Fraction Era of the comic Immortal Iron Fist ( and Orson Rand).
Imagine Spider-Man 4 starting with Spider-Man fighting some goons and one of them has a goblin-ish mask. That would be a perfect start for the movie - he beats that criminal harder because of his experience from NWH. That would show how Spider-Man is in a worse place in his life, perfect for a black suit story. After that obviously Scorpion and Shocker are hired by Kingpin and everything is being dealt on New York streets
I really hope we get to see the "Echo" series this year
I always find myself watching other SC vids as the new one gets posted everyday
Bro hasn’t heard of the thunderbolts