Marvel WASTED the Snap - The MCU's Biggest Missed Opportunity, Explained
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The marvel Cinematic Universe prides itself on its long form storytelling and connections. So isn't it weird that for five years, half of all life in the universe was GONE and no one mentions it? IN this video we break down all of the missed opportunities in the MCU.
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The Snap was a complete shock, everything changed when Thanos snapped his fingers and wiped out 50% of all life in the universe. The villain won, the heroes failed, and trillions of lives…just vanished in an instance.
For 5 years, there was no hope, no way to bring back the dusted.
How can anyone move past that?
The snap had devastating implications on every living being in the universe, it’s the sort of catastrophe that changes everything, forever.
But now, looking at the aftermath of the snap - and the blip for that matter- it all feels inconsequential.
In hindsight, this supposed universe altering event is a footnote on history, something the world has mostly moved on from pretty quickly.
Which completely diminishes the impact of the snap.
And this is a huge missed opportunity, Marvel should have done so much more with the snap and its implications on the world. The snap should have been a permanent change to the Marvel cinematic universe.
It’s kinda insane to me that the MCU is basically refusing to explore the 5 years in between the snap and the blip.
The snap has so much story potential, this is one of the most interesting time periods in the MCU. And not just on Earth, think about all the potential it had on countless civilizations in space.
So we need to take a serious look at the snap, why it’s such a big missed opportunity, and the story direction the MCU should have taken with it.
The snap is an event that happened everywhere, it affected everyone. We are talking about 50% of all life in the universe vanishing in a blink of an eye.
Just here on Earth, the snap means devastation in every possible way. Billions of lives were affected and ruined. People tend to focus on all the trillions of lives that were dusted. But it’s more than just sentient beings, we are talking about animals too, trees, plants, microbes, and even viruses that are essential for the existence of life as we know.
The world after the snap would feel the consequences for decades. The sense of normalcy and safety that people knew for so long is gone forever.
Things will never go back to how they used to.
We can’t even imagine how irreversible this event would change our way of life in every possible way.
I mean think about all the cultural damage, all the people who died for real in the aftermath of the snap. Like passengers on planes who’s pilots vanished. We are talking here about countless planes falling from the sky, killing the passengers and the people on the ground.
Or all the babies that fell on the floor because their moms disappeared. Ok, fuck, that one is way too dark. Yeah, let’s not talk about that.
All of those people died for real, they didn’t not come back after the blip. And don’t even get me started about all of the people that probably died after trillions of lives suddenly reappeared.
This is something that needed to be touched on.
The world we see at the start of Endgame is a grim one.
We see that people are in pain, unable to move forward with their lives. Drowning with grief and misery.
There is garbade and abandoned cars piling in desolate streets. Overgrown buildings indicating the devastating cost of Thanos’ actions.
Also this dog, now that I see this dog…. that’s sad, man. Poor poppy, waiting for its owner, no idea of what is happening or if it will ever see its owner again.
But as depressing as this abandoned dog is, the movie doesn’t even come close to fully capturing the devastating scope the snap should have had on the world, and the rest of the universe.
For starters, there doesn’t seem to be an everlasting change that happened in those 5 years since the snap.
We don’t know much about that span of time. But World War 3 didn’t start, civilization didn’t collapse, and society didn’t devolve into a Mad Max wasteland. 
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Please be a marvel or dc script writer
Still hoping for a breakdown of DC's League of Super Pets hosted exclusively by Doug (who better to break down a movie featuring dogs than a dog?) It would be a "missed opportunity" to not have Doug give us a breakdown of that movie.
L Scam
You truly have the biggest brain out of us all
How dare you remind me of Jurassic Bark 😭
Seriously though, love this take. Even if they still skipped over the five years, we should see the fallout more than mugs and ice cream shops.
Imagine if we waited 5 years for Endgame just like in universe and the released movies with half the universe snapped in those 5 years. Would be crazy
That would've been phenomenal, and excruciating 😆
LOL, that would've been interesting. They could at least have made a other movies in between, like introduce the Fantastic 4 or any other property.
@@noktin they also could have done an Avengers: Aftermath movie where they kill Thanos like they did in endgame but you don't get the time heist, it's a completely different plot that doesn't involve Thanos and you just get a full movie that details everything that happened after the snap. that plus a few more solo movies that take place during the 5 year snap and then do an Endgame. that would have been awesome.
But, guuuuuys we got the most important movie, Captain Marvel!
Technically, they could still do it if they wanted...
The snap would be a perfect time for ground level characters (superheroes and villains) to have their stories explored as one could only imagine what anarchy was going on then and whoever had the courage to stand up to this devastation. Phase 4 would’ve been a perfect time to explore this and any show in phase 5 doing this would make little sense as they’re moving to Kang and his significance on the multiverse.
They should've had a ronin show or even a special presentation of Scott lang in the quantum realm after the snap im sure he did see something down there but literally never says a word about it and they should make extended cuts of movies I think that's a huge mistake by marvel
Exactly!!! That would be the perfect time to build up new characters. We’d instantly love them
@@kjswensen63 Im pretty sure he says in endgame that it felt like only 5 minutes inside the quantum realm, which is why he was so confused that 5 years had passed.
Y'all gotta stop making so much damn sense, it's making me sad about this phase and all the terrible movies/shows...
@@eskitv1509 he said five hours
I’ve been saying this for so long. I want a Disney+ show set during the aftermath of the Snap set around normal civilians. Not the heroes, civilians. Like, you could do so much with that in terms of storytelling. No heroes v villains, but effectively do “The Leftovers” in the MCU.
I'd especially like to see the effects of everyone coming back. What happens when people got remarried? Or the age difference in half a couple aging 5 years?
Like the old "Marvels" comic storylines.... everyday experiences through the eyes of regular people, but sometimes they have encounters or stories of superheroes and villains.
Honestly, I'd be down for any marvel show or movie about "regular" people. I think the MCU kinda needs that. It could help the world of these stories feel a little bit more real.
If Andor has taught us anything, it's that there is a way to dive deep into things that have happened in the past of a shared universe and make it work. Fingers crossed that it's part of the plan to come back at some point, introduce new characters and tell some compelling stories during this time frame.
Doubt it. None of the current shows or movies ever mention the blip unless it is absolutely important to the plot. Otherwise it's like it never happened.
I like that you brought up Andor as that is my thinking, too. I real deep dive into the time of the snap with the same gravitas that Andor has would be awesome.
Yeah, and it would have precedence in Marvel, too. The 2015 Secret Wars storyline was followed by an 8-month time skip that slowly got explored in a handful of books that filled readers in on some of those details.
4:05. It has been confirmed that when Bruce did the Blip he explicitly made sure that anyone that would have died if they reappeared in a dangerous place was put somewhere safe.
That is an impossible theory in the slightest
I think after the pandemic, the snap and it’s consequences felt a little too real for Disney to double down on a bunch of people suddenly dying and the world going through radical changes. I really wish there was more snap content but I think the timing was just too unfortunate :/
Yeah... the timing really would hit too close to home in a negative way.
It's funny how the first comment I get is about what I wanted to comment
That's probably why Falcon Winter Soldier fell flat, cos them fighting over vaccines would've too close. Imo they should have used real life to emotionally develop story, but I get it would be very controversial.
People IRL needed something to take their mind off what was happening in the world. Doubling down in the snap would have been a bad idea
I wish they had done at least a tribute video connecting the real world events with movie scenes of anarchy kind of like a life imitates art and art imitates life idea, it would've kept things lighthearted while also acknowledging that the characters are going through the same things as we are but they persist and so can we, could've used the gravestone scene when ant man comes back to pay homage to all those we lost in the pandemic
Imagine if phase 4 was all about the 5 years between infinity war and endgame, then phase 4 ended with endgame
That shot of the helicopter spiraling into the side of a building during the snap made me think about all the people brought back 5 years later in mid air.
It’s said that Bruce snapped everyone back to safety, regardless of their situation they were in. Regardless, that only brings back those who snapped away to safety. Countless others who survived the snap but were unfortunate to be in a plane, car, boat without someone to pilot would mean many accidents.
If I'm remembering correctly, there was no mention of The Snap in Ms. Marvel. We have no clue if anyone of her friends or family disappeared for 5 years, or if Kamala herself blipped. Really was a missed opportunity to have fans theorycraft if the blip activated the X gene.
Nope
The snap was the perfect time to be relatable to viewers during a time when we were experiencing something similar to the snap
That's debatable.... Depends on what you go to the movies for.... me I like movies to escape reality
@@rubenjackson840 the movies still have to be believable within the logic of that world. A movie that doesn't treat consequences as something that matter would break the immersion of the universe built up.
They dropped the ball, usually heroes always win and the villain dies, it would've been amazing to see the opposite for a change (and explore more of post-snap Thanos) so the audience can really relate because everyone fails at one point. Ryan, you are a creative genius!
Yeah, this was what I expected out of all the Phase 4 tv shows. Finally long form storytelling to flesh out the Snap.
The snap setting off the Multiverse Saga is so simple, makes so much sense, so of course they didn’t do it.
They're literally exploring the years between the snaps with each movie after that. Every movie after it had a consequence of the snap, including the Disney+ shows Like Falcon and Winter Soldier all the way up to the most recent Wakanda Forever.
But... not really. Endgame is the only time we really got a look. But after that, yes, the years between the Snap and the Blip are brought up, but they're given little more than lip service. We know far more about the time since the Blip, than before.
I haven't seen Wakanda Forever yet, so maybe it delves deeper into that time, but if it does then it's an exception.
@@khandimahn9687
Falcon and Winter Soldier was literally all about the consequences of the Blip/snap.
Wandavision was the result of Wanda dealing with the snap and losing The Vision,
Black Widow dealt with What happened with Black Widow in between the snap
Spiderman addressed some of the consequences of the snap and what happened when people/students suddenly reappeared the same age they were when they were snapped.
Hawkeve was all about fixing what he did when he became Ronen after losing his family to the snap.
The Loki series is dealing with the consequences of the Avengers messing with time to fix what happened after the snap, causing the OG Loki to be pruned leading to the Kang/Antman movies which will touch on it even more.
Secret wars will be about what was happening during the snap and how the Skrulls came and infiltrated earth. SWORD series will address the snap.
How much more do they have to do, to move on from it. Even Guardians of the Galaxy will touch on the relationships after the snap. Because Rocket keeps losing everybody. Gamora doesn't have the same relationship she used to have with the team.
Some people need everything spelled out and every connection spoon fed to them.
If you remember Captain Marvel was alive after the snap they could go into her story a little bit more what she did during the snap
After the snap, I thought that Sakovia would split into 2 different countries, with the other calling itself Latveria…and during Phase 4 we would get the rise of Doom, happening in the background…I also thought Namor would show up much sooner…his people would’ve suffered from the snap as well and he would come to the surface looking for answers…
that would have made a lot more sense.
Namor coulda got snapped..
I find it really unrealistic that the world just somehow managed to move on from the snap after 5 years and not completely descend into anarchy
It's realistic, it's incredibly how humanity can keep going on no matter what happens and how irreparable the damage can be
Just imagine the looting, the financial disruption, hell the sheer number of highway speed car wrecks that would have happened. The roads would have been unpassable for a long time.
To be fair, a recent real life example is the pandemic. Most of the world has moved on from the pandemic (even though the pandemic hasn't ended)
I feel like we also forget about political leaders. imagine the most powerful person in a nation and about half of their party disappearing. that leaves so much room for radical change for the other parties
Would it have been “anarchy” or more localized governments or mafia structures?
You're not wrong about Mavel wasting the Snap.
Its funny you brought this up. Since Endgame, I had a concept for a short film or mini series on this exact topic. One focusing on a religious person, one on someone who was already hopeless and depressed and someone who accepts things, but everyone is suddenly brought back and dealing with the adjustment
Interesting perspective, I agreed that the snap became less serious when seeing it become a name of a ice cream place. Also I liked the theory of the snap being the cause of x gene. 🙂👍
"Street level" heroes could've been the perfect way to explore the snap. Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Misty Night, Cloak and Dagger... they could've great shows within those 5 years. Maybe Daredevil born again will touch on that, but at this point I'm not sure if they'll ever explore it.
Other than the emotional trauma, I don't think the world would have stayed that desolate for 5 years.
I agree. I think all the garbage and abandoned look they went for in Endgame was off.
I'd feel that the snap would be a perfect time to introduce some street level heroes and villains, Like DD and Kingpin. I mean, the world should be in chaos after-snap, so street villains will definitely spawns up taking their chances which should be countered by street level heroes
Thank you! Someone said it! The blip and the celestial sticking out of the earth is some of biggest cosmic horror in mcu history.
This is one of the best videos you’ve ever done if not THE BEST! I totally agree. With you five years is enough to put several movies centered in that time.
I wonder if the pandemic affected how the MCU dealt with the snap.
It's really hard to say. The MCU has a roadmap worked out years in advance. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to downplay some things, even if nothing more than some dialogue changes.
I think it did. Wasn't there meant to be a subplot on Falcon and Winter Soldier about a global pandemic spreading during that 5 year period? But then they removed most references to it in post because of the real pandemic? Disney is about escapism and perhaps the Decimation too closely mirrored real life.
Biggest complaint about BP2 is that they didnt mention that Tchalla and many others had already died before
The original script was supposed to explore T'Challa and his feelings about the 5 years he lost, but, well, you know.
@@lydiamoon5235 yeah cause Marvel always has to pick the dumb option when it comes to their stories.
@@vice2versa Sometimes they do. For Black Panther, they chose the best option for them and the cast (and for the schedule of future MCU offerings) they had available under difficult circumstances.
They should have had movies within the span of the snap, showing people grief and how they coped with the event. It would have tied more emotion and made the finale of endgame that much sweeter (edit: I commented before watching)
I think it should be done as specials, 1 hour pieces on different sections of the snap
They could have made a special presentation taking place within the 5 year gap or have wankanda forever take place within the timeskip
As for people returning in the Blip, I think it was explained in interviews with the Russos that Hulk was able to ensure that returning people wouldn't die because of where they returned. That is, people that vanished while in aircraft were Blipped back to the ground, while people not in any immediate danger from where they were and would come back just returned exactly where they left. But as for people that died in the immediate aftermath of the snap from accidents and other such situations (and in the weeks and months afterwards from food shortages and the like), I think it is fair to say that they weren't returned with Hulk's snap.
Yeah those many Vehicles and Plane crashes
Like you're on your way to Paris and the pilots get dusted 😳
I don’t usually comment, but this critique makes so much sense. Great job Ryan and Doug!
Fantastic video I would really love to see them go down this route with a series 🤞🏻
All we really have are the scene in WandaVision when Monica comes back. And one in Hawkeye.
I applaud your commentary on this topic. It truly would have been wonderful to explore a post-snap world and universe for the creation of heros and villians.
I totally agree I been saying the snap shoulda set up all the stories of stage 4. It makes no sense to act like it was just a thing that happened.
I absolutely agree. There has to be huge consequences for bringing all those people back.
Alternative timeline: Thor is Buff and serious, and isn’t a laughing stock like he is in the main timeline. He also is a emotional, but Grieving, king. And after the Avenger’s ask him for help he of course says yes wanting to help undo the damage done by thanos. But first he prepares him and his army for battle. Then out of nowhere Ghost rider appears through a portal to aid the avengers and kill thanos in the final battle during endgame. Would’ve liked it better this way Tbh.
Because most of us DONT GIVE A FUCK about what he was doing. HELL we know what he was doing. Seeking revenge like he did in the comics.
@@sundancevandezande57 well I do. Sheesh
@@Jay_18697 I agree especially seeing how Hawkeye got involved with Kingpin
@@Jay_18697 They showed us what he was doing. Lmao. He was ronin and killing criminals. Not really much they need to tell.
@@sundancevandezande57 Know what? I change my mind. You were right
Star Wars has taught us that they will be cranking out Marvel media 50 years from now. They will eventually cover this time period and every other scenario.
I didn’t really mind Far from home tackling the repercussions of the snap in a somewhat comedic take because teenagers were at the forefront of that movie, but as for the other projects of Phase 4, yeah they shoulda handled the repercussions of the snap way better
A visual explanation for what happened in between that five year time skip (like a Disney+ show) woulda been great
Reading about Ryan Coogler's original script for Wakanda Forever seems like it would've went further into the ramifications and emotions post snap more than most of the Phase 4 content
He kind of went into it a bit but tbh they put way too much of a burden on Coogler to tell multiple stories in one movie Dr Strange and all these other movies never addressed a single moment
You're one of my favorite Journalists! 💪🏿
This. Since the beginning of phase 4, anytime there was scenes or talk of the snap or blip, got my attention right away. My hope for phase 4 was yes introduction of the multiverse with entries like Wandavision, Loki, Spiderman, Dr Strange, etc. but also more stories and focused on the 5 year time period between The Snap and The Blip. Episodes that showed what happened to life before and after Infinity War and Endgame on Earth like in Wandavision, Hawkeye, Falcon and the Winter Soldier always became favorites of mine because I wanted to know more of how life went with people went after Thanos had the snap and when Tony brought everyone back. Even stories of what happened beyond Earth in the universe is also so huge to know since they were also affected. The people and beings who rose up after the Avengers failed. The settling of Asgards on Earth. Everyone questioning the Avengers. What was it like for Thor since he didn't go for the head and how was he even welcomed back to his people after failing them. Wakanda during the 5 years. Tony and Pepper life before and after Morgan was born. Hawkeye falling into darkness. All this and so many many more stories and also why The Avengers were allowed to travel back in time and mess with history as it was brought up in Loki on his trial with the TVA and even Steve's travels returning the Infinity Stones. All this and many many more stories because of the snaps could be some of the best stories told if Marvel went on and explored these times. I have enjoyed Phase 4 for what it is so far, but hopefully we get some of these stories in some way in Armor Wars, Secret Invasion, Daredevil, and maybe even some new announcements hopefully one day.
Dude, concepts like these are why i get high to his vids for real
I just assume that the non-returning Avengers needed a definitive "win" for the end of their saga. Going into all the reasons their victory wasn't enough takes away from their legacy (for viewers, mostly). I agree, though, that there are all kinds of interesting ramifications and story directions that could have been more grounded in the Snap itself. As much as I'm ready for Kang, a whole phase of fallout-centric content would have been amazing. Add all of the timeline stuff after.
I agree with this so much! I am so glad someone finally said something about it.
They didn’t forget quickly
It was 5 years
We get over things in less than a month
They were still grieving
Your videos are always fantastic
I would definitely watch this show! Exploring what happened in those five years has been something missing from Disney. Here’s hoping!!!
We need a “The Clone Wars” like animated series to cover this time period. We could have Tony & Cap & others back w different voice actors, flesh out the world, introduce some cults (Children of Thanos sounds baller)
I think the main reason they didn't get to explore that 5 year period in detail was the logistics of movie releases. Ant Man and the Wasp was next to be released, and we saw that it was set right before the snap. Then came Captain Marvel, set in the 90's. Then came Endgame. There simply wasn't anything in between Infinity War and Endgame to use to explore that time at all. Thus, it will only be able to be done through flashbacks and consequences. But I do agree that there should have been more of those flashbacks and consequences integrated into the Phase 4 stories.
Exactly. The MCU has a roadmap worked out years in advance. Sure, there are changes, but overall each Phase has followed the plan. At the time the Infinity Saga was planned out, Disney+ didn't exist. Now that it does, and has proven to be a success, maybe they consider looking back a 'the lost years'.
That, and they wanted to keep the snap a secret pre-Infinity War. If all the movies being produced before Infinity War was released had showed extensive post-snap devastation, there would have been no way to keep that under wraps, not just from the actors, but the production designers, VFX crews, etc. As Dr. Strange would say, there was only one way.
If they had put a movie in between, and it got delayed, they'd have to delay end game until it releases, along with everything that happens after the snap is fixed.
The more movies in between, the tighter the project timelines have to be not impact other movies.
I find your points compelling. Pop Culture Detective did a recent piece on heroes as defenders of the status quo that intersects with your thesis nicely.
Ive been saying this foro YEARS!!!! They need a "blip" series so badly.
"Tragically missed opportunities" should be the buy-line for all the 2022 MCU movies in particular.
DSIMOM - missed opportunity for a Wanda/Strange teamup against a new villain in which either Stephen or Wanda gets gradually corrupted by use of the Darkhold
Thor L&T - Gorr slaughtering gods in glorious fashion not one self-defence neckstab.
BPWF: Introduction of Panther Goddess Bast and greater explanation for Wakanda's mystical aspects
Seeing that Gorr was ancient, I wonder how he hadn't made an appearance before 2024/2025 in the timeline if he's a God Killer. Is there just that many Gods and so he was preoccupied through all the Millennia and Centuries?
@@ItsFireTiger Gorr is from an unknown planet... we don't know how old he is exactly or how long he's been active
There was 4 snaps. Thanos 1 & 2, Hulk & Tony. Just saying.... Keep up the great work Ryan. Much luv 4 ya
are you counting the Thanos snapping without the stones?
@@drewrobinson5069 Thanos used the stones to destroy the stones remember.
@@alexmejuto1977 i do remember, i just didn't take that as he snapped again, but he did say it almost killed him
Great video Ryan and team you bring up some amazing points! Imagine If Marvel set the entire phase 4 during snap, slowly bring us up to date in Phase 5.
They probably will do something like that as far as people looking at the avengers or earth sideways or like silver surfer finding all this great “food” for galactus. I agree it would have been a great inciting incident to start off the multiverse saga but it kinda did with Loki but I get what you mean. Cool video!
imagine a baby in a crib inside a locked house whose mother or both parents happened to be snapped out of existence. they'd just starve to death. dark af.
DUDE! The Leftovers was amazing, great reference!
The events involving infinity stones were meant to happen as mentioned in Loki’s trial at the TVA from the first episode so no, their use cannot create alternate timelines however through the actions of a nexus being or variant they can indirectly trigger a branching in the timeline. In my opinion therein lies the difference.
Absolutely that could’ve brought upon incredible story lines & villains! What happened in those five years I am intrigued
Well Kingpin did rise back up to power during the Blip
Treated as a joke in Love & Thunder was my last straw. That’s when I knew Phase 4 was bad. Not every movie needed to be a downer but let’s at least process some feelings. I think Covid made them shy about addressing existential nightmares… when it should’ve done the opposite.
I don't recall seeing ANY plants disappearing at the SNAP. Curiouser and curiouser!
And there is estimated to be 500,000 ppl. in a plane now. That is 250,000 ppl. blipping into existance in the air without a parachute. Wow!
By the way, the Infinity stones were used 4 times. Thanos, Thanos, Hulk and Iron Man.
imagine people on ships/cruises/boats.. imagine people who were on moving cars respawning in the middle of highways! people who were on trains now respawning on train tracks.. oncoming speedtrain! oh god! the horror!
@@Ra-Hul-K The more you think about it the more terrorfying it would have been. A tree appearing where a person was standing, only half the bacteria in your stomach to digest food... etc, etc.. It would have scarred most people for life... if life could continue at all.
And the bacteria would probably levelled it's self out in 5 years so suddenly... blip and there is twice the amount of good and bad everywhere. Are we over thinking this?
Definitely should be much more villains after the snap
Not only just about snap and everyone who came back after the snap how di people after losing 5 years of their lifes taken away from them while everyone else grew up with out them or was just like they was what if people who was snap lost family members or great friends they never got chance to say goodbye to what if lost there place and are now homeless because of what happened
Not only there would people become villains during the snap but after snap them not expecting they lost 5 years of their life they can't get back or grew from
The way I woulda been tuned in to watch episodes of a show about The Blip and everything set within that 5 year time period every week more than any of the other Disney+ Marvel shows
Thanks for that truely interesting topic.
Totally agree, I wonder this a lot of time
Great points....dang...very good thought process
Excelent points, You are absolutely RIGHT.
As soon as you said about using technology I immediately thought of Reed Richards and 838, I agree that they should.
Absolutely!!! 1000% YOU are so right. I was thinking this too.
YES! Great video!
I feel like we've explored the state of Earth during the snap but the biggest mistake was not having any stories take place during the snap.
At that point, heroes and villains had been popping up everywhere and we're to believe that no new characters were introduced during that period? I call BS and if that's what they wanted to do, have the time gap be for a year or two instead of five.
5:34 I actually noticed that while recently watching Thor: Love and Thunder. Anyway, great job explaining why you feel like the MCU hasn’t properly used the Blip to tell more stories.
They easily could’ve Introduced the thunder bolts, moonknight, daredevil Punisher etc in the snap and built them up smh
I really thought the snap was going to be the cause of the mutant race, like it altered their DNA as Ryan states. I know all of the rights issues with X-Men and Fantastic 4 is just not settled so maybe it will be explained in those future movies.
Some notable examples of this type of arc working in games to provide great storytelling are Final Fantasy 6 (The World is completely destroyed and changed because the Heroes were unable to stop Kefka), Legend of Zelda (Link to the Past) Link is telephoned to the World of Ruin, and Crono Trigger (emergence of Lavos) heroes must change the past to save the future. I'm sure there are way more examples but these 3 are personally some of my favorite tales. Going through a world that utterly crushed by the forces of evil and taking it back or fixing it piece by piece. Would've loved to see some MCU stories told during the 5 year snap gap.
A truly interesting concept to explore!
Always said there needs to be a Snapped show…it could explore so much, doesn’t even have to be around heroes…
6:44 “i guess we’ll find out in Wakanda Forever” lol when was this recorded ? 😅
We heard Steve tell Natasha that here were whales in the Hudson because of less pollution. Falcon and the Winter Solider dealt with the impact on the Snap and how it helped certain group who had no voice. Then the Blip showed how they were pushed back to to background.
Wakanda Forever brought this up for me again because Nakia gives the perfect opportunity for a story during the Snap. She was raising a kid who will probably be pretty important and it would be a closed universe sort of story. But yeah, the whole thing would have been a easy x gene event. I mean they could still do that but that is still post the first Snap.
I do wonder though that Scott may be the catylst for a bad guy to start his anti Avenger mission. He is famous and beloved right now but he might just bring Kang to the regular world. Someone is going to take Zemo's message to the extreme and people will listen.
Fun fact related to the Leftovers shout out. The actor Carrie Coon used in the clip from that show, also played Proxima Midnight. 👍 I'm sure it was intentional so high five (hiv?🤔) to the editor on that one.
i agree, such a good potential for even just a mini series called "post-snap" or something that could've explored earth and other places during this time period.
I completely agree but also it's been soo long for the build up it did need a strong ending which it did. Unfortunately now they're trying to pick right back up by placing the stakes at the same level without any of the build up
Having an 'um actually' moment, but the stones were used 4 times together. The first snap, when thanos used the stones to destroy the stones, the un-snap by Hulk and the final snap by Tony.
I want to see all of this!
I heard Secret Invasion might explore it but agreed surprisingly under utilized.
I think a lot of it has to do with the timing of the movie and the pandemic, of course but also that having a story set during that time would cost a lot of money to bring back the relevant actors to play the characters during that time. And Disney is more about moving forward, than spending the money to tell that story.
I have to think lots of the Snap-related resentment will be played up in the Thunderbirds chapter
Ayesha and The Sovereign would have been very interesting to visit either during the snap or immediately following. Like, Ayesha had a 50/50 chance of being snapped, what if she was snapped, would the Sovereign just create a new and improved Queen to rule over them? And then suddenly Ayesha comes back and there's a new Queen and the new Queen is looking at the former Queen. Their civilization is so child-like but also bluntly logical that I could watch an entire series on just how they reacted to it, dealt with it, lived with it, and then dealt with the return of half their population.
1) An argument can be made that the Snap/Blip DID launch the multiverse--at least in plot terms--as it let Loki "escape" and start adventuring with the TVA. Admittedly he doesn't actually cause this with the MCU, but his adventures certainly set the scene for it.
2) It would take a lot of very good scriptwriting to come up with a storyline (or two or...) for events in those five years to not be seriously depressing. Even at it's lowest points, the MCU has been consistently optimistic (Infinity War teased us with Captain Marvel's pager, so even I.W. had an ending with a positive note), so to manage this would take quite a bit of effort. And Marvel may simply not want to have to deal with that level of difficulty.
3) One area where I've yet to see any commentary (although I'm sure it is out there) is the idea that the Avengers DIDN'T really fix things; they simply created an alternate time-line where everyone comes back. Is that really a part of the "Sacred Time-Line" or had things gotten out of control to the point that the TVA was overwhelmed? And that is just one possible scenario. Maybe Ryan should work up a episode regarding this...or maybe a multi-part one, as this could take a long time to work through all the major alternatives, couldn't it?
Great video and analysis... definitely needs to be revisited by Feige and the brain trust squad
We’re really in the “Marvel Wasted” phase 😂
Ryan, this video is genius!
I remember how silent the theater was after infinity war. It's not often you get to see a movie where the bad guy wins
I think they could have at least done a tribute video connecting the real world events with movie scenes of anarchy kind of like a life imitates art and art imitates life idea, it would've kept things lighthearted while also acknowledging that the characters are going through the same things as we are but they persist and so can we, could've used the gravestone scene when ant man comes back to pay homage to all those we lost in the pandemic as well.
Bro you are literally speaking my mind
Brilliant video..!!!!
Very good points made here.
Imagine if Infinity War was the end of Phase 3 and Phase 4 was filled with these kind of stories, capped off by Endgame.