How WORLD WAR HULK Will Happen in the MCU...and be Awesome
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- Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2022
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She-Hulk seemed to tease a World War Hulk movie, only to dismiss the idea with a casual conversation between Jen and K.E.V.I.N. Then came the post-credits scene introducing Skaar, and it seemed like fans' dreams of a true Planet Hulk/World War Hulk movie were dashed. But in this video we explain how the Savage Hulk could be released once more, and thee consequences will be literally earth-shattering.
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The Leader is coming back for Captain America New World Order. And Harrison Ford is thew new Thunderbolt Ross. There’s just no way they got Harrison Ford if they ain’t planning to do Red Hulk.
So that’s a lot of gemma rediatated people, they got to do something with all of them. Like… world war hulk.
So we came up with few ideas for how Marvel can do world war hulk. And more importantly how we get Bruh Hulk to get a so angry that he goes on a world breaking rampage and unleashed World War Hulk on the MCU.
Alright before we get to our ideas, first we need briefly go over the comics version of World War Hulk.
After one too many rampages on Earth, The Illuminati decided to shoot Hulk into space.
The ship crash landed on Sakkar, and Hulk found himself on an hostile planet ruled by the Red King. One thing led to the other and Hulk became a gladiator.
Hulk went all Spartacus, leding an uprising and liberating Sakkar from the tyrannical Red King.
Hulk also fell in love with Caiera, the two got married and ruled over Sakkar peacefully. That’s how Skaar was born in the comics.
This should have been Hulk’s happily ever after. But as fate had it, the ship that brought Hulk to Sakkar blew up, killing millions, including Caiera.
That’s the ship the Illuminati used to exile Hulk.
So naturally, he unleashed World War Hulk on Earth, destroying everyone, as he pretty much tried to break the world.
As great as this story is, it’s going to be near impossible to do a faithful adaptation of World War Hulk.
Hulk is in a completely different mental place right now. The only War War Hulking he’s gonna do is playing video games with his kid.
Also, Thor Ragnarok was basically a very lose adaptation of Planet Hulk. So Marvel can’t adapt that story again.
Not to mention that Hulk already travled to Sakkar and came back with his son. And Skaar seems to be cool with his dad.
So that’s not how we’re getting THIS World War Hulk. But there are still some ways for A World War Hulk to happen. There are actually two ways we wanna pitch.
So let’s start with the version that is more in-line with where the MCU is going with Hulk right now, and later in the video we will present a much darker version of World War Hulk.
There are currently a lot of Hulk-like people in the MCU. Hulk himself. She-Hulk. There’s also Blonsky. And now Skaar who’s half a Hulk and half an alien.
Then there’s the events of She-Hulk.
Jen became She-Hulk after her blood was mixes with Bruce’s.
Banner destroyed the blood semplaes, but then Todd stole Jen’s blood and became a Hulk himself.
So there is a precedent here for people becoming Hulks with some of that green gemma blood.
Now that the Leader is coming back, I’m pretty sure he’s gonna get his hands on some Hulk blood. He himself was transformed after being exposed to Hulk’s radiated blood.
Since both Leader and Thunderbolt Ross are in Captain America 4, I predict that they will team up and that’s how we get Red Hulk. 
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@@KyleHerbert13 sorry you know how negative people can be online and I was just feeling mistrusted
I swear, you have to have some insider talking to you. Your analysis and predictions are so accurate either someone inside is feeding you information or they are seeing what you're putting out there and incorporating it into the story arcs.And if it's just you being uber-perceptive, they should hire you to help develop the story lines. We may miss out on your incredible analysis, but we would benefit from the incredible depth you would add to the creative process.
I disagree. I dont think they listen to him at all, and that sucks for us. The entire mcu based on his predictions alone would be amazing. And have mephisto
@@ezav420 At least we can agree Ryan is amazing at this.
@@l00k4tstuff AGREE!
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Oh yes. 😁
Let this be the most awesome hulk we have ever seen!
Most likely it will be like the complete turd that was she hulk.
You can't ever do a "1 to 1 adaptation" of the World War Hulk story, the very nature of that type story is only used *TO SET UP A POST APOCOLOYPTIC FUTURE WHERE ALL HERO'S ARE DEAD EFFECTIVELY ENDING THE WORLD* Because it is a Shared Interconnect Cinematic Universe with *A LOT MORE* Spin Off's, ensemble's, Solo movie's & D+ Shows & Special's we're talking about here Disney won't ever fundamentally change the MCU Status Quo so these other MCU stories that has absolutely nothing to do with the Hulk Character *CAN CONTINUE AS NORMAL!..* 😒
@@josephbugeja3208 perhaps the movie could happen after secret wars. Where Hulk returns after the Avengers beat Kang and the next villain is Hulk
@@Retro3 no Disney saw how everyone reacted to how they threw Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch under the bus by making her into a full blown villain in Dr. Strange MOM.. Disney wouldn’t want to try doing that again with the “Big Guy.”
Maybe Hulk being trapped in the mental prison thinks it's only a dream and when he takes over control and finds out Natasha is really dead, then that could be what snaps him emotionally and creates World War Hulk, blaming all of the heroes for her death.
I don't see that happening since they've already squeezed Natasha's death for Hawkeye and Yelena's stories. We can't have half the MCU motivated by that
It's amazing how you perfectly explained what the problem is with this new smart hulk. We never got to see the struggle of him arriving to that conclusion. The 2 identies are extremely crucial parts of the character even in the MCU and we saw no journey to the conclusion. Hopefully we get WWH as a prelude to the avengers movie
Maybe Smart Hulk isn’t the conclusion, I think Bruce put Hulk in a mind cage with his experiments. The monster might be in there and finally break out so Star, She-Hulk, and whoever else will have to fight him
@@fictionverse7292 No he says "me and the big guy worked it out" I.e they came to some kind of understanding which is kind of stupid in my opinion because unless I am wrong nothing like that ever happens in the comics where hulk decides to never ever come out again. Its literally an important part of his psyche
@@nomorenamesavailabl1668 I said smart Hulk isn’t the conclusion. It’s just Banner’s he’d in Hulk’s body. I think the conclusion is that they combine their personalities together when they not only accept each other, they realize they are each other; Hulk is Bruce and a Bruce is Hulk
@@fictionverse7292 I see what your trying to say but the comics and the movies speak otherwise. Banner spent years meditating and using different methods of therapies to find a solution. Hulk isn't just a manifestation of his traumas anymore it is literally another entity. It's 2 people living within one body. Originally like Jekyll and Hyde which the hulk is based on they were the divide of one into 2 but they are not opposite sides of thesame coin. Banner isn't completely good and hulk isn't completely bad. They are literally 2 individuals in one body now they cannot or at least have not yet in the comics merged their psychis. Banner always either gets banished to the subconscious, the hulk does or they come to an agreement to alternate command
I would love to see Hulk vs Wolverine or him vs Wonder Man. We might have Hyperion coming to the MCU so he could fight him as well.
or YESSS all of them making going on him one on one and making him annoyed and the most angry in the same movie
Yeah, but Wonderman is just going to be a nerfed Black Manta. So hard pass on that weak battle.
About we just see the real Hulk kicking everyone's ass especially captain marvel.
The dog sayin he wants to b a pillar of his community was hilarious tho
In she hulk, right after the Crash, there is a glimpse Moment when Hulk comes Out and He is clearly pissed. I Always suspected that He is trapped in there.
Random words don’t need to be capitalized in sentences.
I'd like Hulk and Banner to come an arrangement similar to the one they created in Earth's Mightiest Heroes where Hulk takes the drivers seat but Banner remains on standby to offer him advice when dealing with problems, he can't just smash or a true Fusion where both of their individual memories are integrated into a being that appreciates smashing just as much as science.
The tropic thunder edit was next level. Single best edit I’ve ever seen on this channel. Well played SC … well played. ✅👏🏼👏🏼
I've actually think a mix of the first and third idea, where Maestro, and different World-Breaker Hulks goes back in time, or universe, split Banner and Hulk apart, and plan on making Hulk a new Maestro. So it would focus on Bruce and Hulk to finally find a final conclusion to their relationship to stop Maestro, and other Hulks that work with him.
The incursions with Dr Strange bring each Hulk to a point where the Red Hulk find more alliances with Bruce Hulking once he realizes Val coerced his Son. With Young Avengers facing off with XMen subplot.
The worst scenario would be to make his son the War World Hulk
Facts.
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That would be extremely awful
Why would it be awful? Seriously, what would be the problem?
Not really. An uncontrollable hulk who sees his planet die on screen and then wants to attack whoever's responsible. Young and quicker to get angry and even stronger because he has no restraint. Could even do the gamma slam something hulk can't do or something to that variation
I would love to see Eric Banas hulk actually be the world War hulk who's jumping universes either looking for his family or killing off different versions of the illuminate with abilities given to him by Kang
It’s gotta be tragedy. Both Bruce and the hulk come to an agreement on loving skaar. They both somehow lose him and banner, either filled with depression/self loathing/or just plain sadness over the event because everyone he loves just doesn’t, or is angry himself gives full control to the hulk who is overflowing with rage at this loss. WWH in the comics is smart, exacting strategic revenge and targeting individuals from the illuminati so maybe the mutual anger is the way to go so it’s word breaker hulk.
If we do get a World War Hulk movie, I want to know how Skaar came to be
I actually have a theory that sakkar would blame the avengers for hulk leaving him and he travels everywhere killing avengers then the avengers assemble against sakkar
When a man loves a woman....
@@FireJach but bigger question is hulk technically cheated on black widow while he was on another planet😲
@@A1word308 I don’t think they were a thing
Because Hulk fu...!!!
I can see them doing some kind of World War Hulk mixed with Thunderbolts or something. I can see maybe New Christine has her thunderbolts hunt Hulk and kill him (or something) and that can kick off a rampage of his son.
i wish they would bring out more of the hulks personality's like grey hulk or devil hulk
Same here, Joe Fixit would be a nice way to mix things up and be a great "Villain" for a couple movies.
I like your bit about Hulk growing too powerful and angry for Banner to control and going on a world-breaking rampage, but I have a possible thought on how it could be spiced up even more.
What if that rampage and Hulk takeover happens during the multiversal war? Hulk going on an absolute rampage and decimating the heroes and villains from numerous universes in their collective battlefield. Not just a world-breaking rampage, but a universe- or multiverse-breaking one.
Imagine if they’ll do Hulk vs Wolverine in Deadpool 3.
With edward norton hulk
Eric Bana Hulk Bananza Extravaganza Tony Danza
Hulk VS Wolverine VS Deadpool VS 3
Picture this, a fight between Banner and his new son over the fact that “hes gone soft” and the fact that banner isnt his real dad anyways, HULK is. That leads to him re-hulking out. Now we just gotta write a reason for him to be pissed at the avengers.
Holy effing Shushers. You Grogu'd Skaar and that was (let's be honest) the best move the MCU could've done. Give my props to Doug.
So funny because Banner said in Endgame that he found all the aggression gratuitous.
@screencrush ... I agree with theory #2 he trapped/suppressed him and he is angry .. That will be world war hulk ... ... This is awesome
War of the Hulks I think we are going to get. Introduce Betty as Red She Hulk would be great.
Just watched the behind the scenes for She-Hulk, and I gotta say I can’t imagine Harrison Ford agreeing to do the mocap stuff for Red Hulk.
Pretty unlikely. Probably just the voice. They could also do a different red hulk and hes just the manager
@@mediumvillain What's the point of recasting the character then.
Another idea that I had, is that Hulk decided to “retire,” and is essentially taking a break, and allowing Bruce to use his strength. But the Hulk personality is still in there somewhere- he just isn’t trying to break out all the time like he had before.
Some of the deleted scenes and ideas for Infinity War and Endgame implied that Hulk was tired of just being an answer to something, a means to an end. As in, Hulk was only ever useful to fight battles and smash, and he began to resent this.
It's often said that Hulk wouldn't come out in these movies because he was afraid after losing to Thanos, and it makes sense to assume this, there's very little subtext to go by, but it isn't exactly entirely true. Hulk has never been one to shy away from a threat, and he's had his ass handed to him before. Especially during the fight in Harlem with Abomination, Hulk was losing most of that fight but came out victorious due to his immense perseverance.
Hulk didn't want to fight Banner's problems anymore. Your theory of him retiring in a sense, it could really work out with all of this.
This is now 4 or 5 days in a row!! Great videos;
I think skaar was introduced to eventually kill him off in front of Bruce which is what causes him to turn into WWH
World War hulk is going to be a epic masterpiece!🔥
The best way to break Bruce is to put him in the same position they put Dr. Manhatten in, where he's in the public eye and forced to take accountability for all the destruction he's caused. Then have the people try to mob him and he accidently hurts one of them. Banner would try to keep him suppressed after that. Let Banner have a normal life for a bit, fall in love, become a real Professor, meet Amadeus maybe, talk to him about being hulk and all that. Then have The Leader systematically take it all away from him from behind the scenes, maybe placing the blame on Skarr. Maybe kill his new love. Banner can't fight Skarr, but Hulk can...
10:21 "SMASH. SHASH. BABY." 🤣🤣🤣 Excellent editing 👌
To be fair they don't do any comic storyline event for event. They tend to make a reference with the title and a similar story but still completely different so that it fits the MCU narrative
World war hulk was a way to show how powerful hulk can be if they do it this way they still need to make it to where we see him get more powerful and stronger not jus show other hulk’s nb wanna see that
Totally agree with your second theory.
Tee hee, Ryan finally admitted Doug can see the color blue. There's hope yet!
The intro🤣🤣love it
I kind of gave up on mcu hulk but your idea of hulk being separated got me excited, it'll keep the hulk around for a long time
I like the 3rd idea best where Hulk torments Banner and goes on a rampage. Hulk vs Sentry need that!
That analysis sounds very intriguing and comic accurate too
I'm down for any Hulk movie, love all the ideas here too! My version would be Red Hulk instigating the war, perhaps capturing Skar & holding him hostage to get Smart Hulk to reeeeally Hulk Out.
Ryan I gotta give it to you buddy, that theory is one of the best I've heard. You're right, Banner locked away hulk's persona and when he gets free...Hulks gonna be like..Let's get this party started!!
Doug is always the comedy relief we needed😂.
This is something we have to see!
I'd like to see when Banner went back to Sakkar; we already know time works differently there, so his time on sakkar during she-hulk could have been years. Maybe he went back to the planet which had been torn to shreds by the revolution in an attempt to help them. If Banner and Hulk both have a hand on the wheel, it could be a good plot point that Hulk wanted to help "his people." The absence of the grandmaster left a massive power vaccum to be filled by the Red King, and when Hulk arrives he finds Skaar. Skaar could resent his dad for leaving, and they fight (maybe an homage to Hulk fighting Thor in the arena) but they eventually realize they need to team up in order to defeat the Red King. They could also slide in a few long-teased characters and cameos to join Hulk's team, maybe this could be the introduction of Beta Ray Bill. In the end, this could be a means to write Ruffalo out of the MCU since he may be looking to retire from the Hulk without writing out Hulk entirely. He could go back to rule Sakaar as a much more benevolent leader than The Red King or the Grandmaster, maybe continuing to host the contest of champions in a way that gladiators are there by choice, rather than as slaves. Meanwhile, Skaar stays on Earth to join the young avengers.
This keeps the Hulk in the MCU in that, he can potentially return in the distant future as the Maestro (time works weirdly on Sakaar) and either be a villain (potentially save him to fight wolverine), or a much more ruthless, grizzled version of Hulk.
I really like Comics Alliance theory where Maestro Hulk is played by Eric Bana and Bruce has to fight him, possibly with She-Hulk and Skaar 🤔
Villain for the next saga(after multiverse)… Maestro… 🤯
It would be nice to see him rage out and kick ass again. He hasn't been the same since infinity war.
There was a story from John Byrne's run where Banner physically separated himself from the Hulk, which was great. This left Hulk as a Tabula Rasa with nothing but rage. Banner on the other hand, couldn't make decisions and became a true wishy washy wimp. This brought in Doc Samson and the Hulk busters. In the end they realized they had to unify for both to exist. I think this would be a great act 1 for a world war hulk movie, since they already did the gladiator stuff in Ragnarok.
So much is happening who knows what Kevin has in mind for the future... remember this isn't a race in the MCU it's a marathon.
very great video n ideas as alws... hulk smash !!!
What do you think of our idea?
So they'll be other Hulks and they'll fight the people who hate him (thanks to Leader)? I like this idea! 💡
I love how you redeem the Smart Hulk concept and how it actually improve Banner’s character. I don’t know if Marvel will reveal this, but I really hope so.
I think this would work great
8:51 That "somehow Palpatine returned" line always makes me laugh out loud
I just want to see The Hulk v/s The Juggernaut
I think they will do it as a what if story in the events of age of Ultron when Wanda showed him vision of something.
Hopefully we will get Hulk vs Wolverine first encounter.
Fr. But honestly Idk if I want to see Wolverine lose right after he gets the role back
Placing an ad after Banner Snap 😆👍
Have you read any of the current Hulk comics by Donny Cates? His story is specifically about how the Hulk/Banner identities are indeed separate. The Banner identity has trapped the Hulk identity in a mind prison and it using Hulk’s anger to power the body. But the Hulk is trying to break free, etc., etc. So you aren’t too far off from what’s happening now.
It has always been an idea that there are multiple identities in the hulk. Dony Cates just took it to a whole new level and doing an incredible job. Turning the hulk into a spaceship was incredibly badass and especially the fight with a hulked out Thor and a Thored out hulk
What if when smart Hulk goes back to Sakaar, his wife somehow dies and that triggers Hulk's inner rage and it becomes something that even Smart Hulk can't control.
Martin Starr played Amadeus Cho in The Incredible Hulk, but Feige retconed that when he played another role in Homecoming.
I think they drove past the junction for a solid and logical world war hulk story a long time ago in the MCU. I can't see there being a good way to do it that makes sense to the over all story line of the MCU
Why not have World Breaker Hulk on Sakaar? His lady friend is killed by a rogue faction. He then goes on to kill all of the super powered people on the planet. Barely escaping with his son after realizing he went to far.
I love Doug so much😂❤
I don’t think timing would line up right, but I’d love to see an explanation of Bruce becoming smart hulk that involves a post blip, rampaging Hulk ending up being confronted by a government…
(maybe even Department H… retcon the name to explain them being formed to counter a Hulk threat?)
…Wolverine. In the end, they go to Professor X to help Banner maintain control and it’s the Professor who locks him in a mental cage, unbeknownst to even Banner that Hulk is suffering in solitary.
We get a Hulk/Wolverine introduction of Logan, we see the first meeting of X and Logan, the Leaser or some other entity breaks hulk out of his mental cage and his thirst for vengeance agains Professor X (and his growing X-Men roster) feeds into a WWH event.
I lost it at the 13:30 mark. 😆😂🤣
When is the MCU gonna do Doc Samson? They should bring back Burrell
@ScreenCrush Did you change the lighting for your setup? Something looks off with the video
What would be a cool way to make a World War hulk movie is to take inspiration from the recent Hulk run by Donny Cates called Smashtronaut. In that story, Bruce Banner locks the Hulk persona away into the "Engine Room", where Hulk battles an infinite number of enemies that Bruce has created and could increase the difficulty from Stage 1 up to Stage 10. What that would do is make the Hulk fight virtual enemies and the rage of the Hulk would fuel what Banner is piloting in the real world and that's Starship Hulk. Where Banner pilots the Hulk body like a starship and has weaponized the Hulk's limitless and rage and power. For example, if Starship Hulk starts getting dominated in a fight against someone like Thanos, Bruce could push the throttle to Stage 2 where the Hulk battles tougher enemies and the rage would fuel Starship Hulk, making it stronger and can eventually overpower someone like Thanos. Basically Banner can make Starship Hulk as powerful as he wants it to be. It's pretty OP if you really think about it. No spoilers for the story but what I will say is that when Starship Hulk gets to Stage 9, it's a site to see.
That would he horrible,that story is all over the place and Donny completely ignores previous canons of the Hulk..
Cates run is dogshit. I refuse to license it as canon.
You are as good as Linus with the segways
The MCU OWES US a Great Hulk story! He’s been a punching bag for way too long!
Daaaamn, Ryan roasted the haircut
Hopefully it’s like in the comics and revealed smart hulk isn’t actually Bruce but another persona
noice u killed it bro
01:00 Agreed.
That second story can make a great movie
Perfect theory would actually love this
I'm cautiously hopeful about this. It really all comes down to how it's handled. In many ways, the Hulk is better as a antagonist to other heroes, but a hero when independent of other heroes, if that makes sense? There are incarnations of the Hulk that can be more team-friendly, but the potential of creating an antagonist for a group superhero movie (perhaps multiplate movies, but I would imagine that would be anti-climatic to any other super antagonist being cooked up for the next "big event). We'll (hopefully) see, I guess.
Maybe even do a short on the internal banner and hulk relationship
is it too soon for them to adapt the current Spaceship Hulk storyline? I'm loving it!
I can see WWH being a 4 part special presentation.
They can't do a World War Hulk movie anymore.
It's come and gone. He's back on Earth. What's his revenge motive?
Wolverine, Thor, Sentey, Captain Universe, Captain Britain, Abomination, Red Hulk, Skaar, Scarlet Witch, Captain Marvel, etc
Did you buy new camera? I think the quality is better
Grey Hulk before WW Hulk. Have to introduce Doc Samson as well
WWH would be a great point for Banner's story. Being Professor Hulk isnt optimal - he has full control but isnt fully powerful.
Nice callback with the Hulkamania reference!
Damn, I have a backlog of Screencrush vids now because I haven’t seen black panther 2 yet
We don't have enough heros for world War hulk yet
@screencrush - Most of this tracks until the end- I think you zigged when your theory should’ve zagged. I would think it would be more compelling that for all the reasons you listed Hulk and Banner separate and that separation is what slowly starts to cause Hulk to go mad. Rest of the world realizes that even for Hulk to be in the drivers seat he still needs a subconscious Banner to keep the rage balanced, so they have to convince banner to rejoin with Hulk to save the world. They did something similar with Hulk vs Thor animated short but instead of it being Asgard this time would be Midgard.
I’ve given up on the mcu being good anymore and now I hear that Chris hemsworth likely wants to stop being Thor. I don’t blame him
It wouldn't shock me if they planted that Skaar seed for 10 years down the line. They need the Mutants and FF to be established before they can execute it properly. It's was about Prof X( mutants) FF, Avengers( Iron Man) , Black Bolt, and Namor. I could see them adding Wakanda as an enemy.
Nothing you can buy will automatically get you respect, Doug! :)
I prefer the version where Hulk has to fight his past and overcome Mastermind's plan of turning the planet into Gamma World. The original World War Hulk story is NOT for me. I'm not a huge fan of telling young kids that taking your rage out by killing everyone around you is very "super." Hulk serves as an emotional catharsis for people who feel they are one bad day away from going on a rampage, but a better message is to show how to overcome that trauma and to become better. With the mastermind Gamma world plot, Hulk is able to go full out without being a villain.
They could make WWHULK if Kang unleashes a hulk variant that's not 616 nice hulk
Before the last three videos you've uploaded, I thought your background was real
I hope they address time dilation for between the two worlds
Hulk agents of S.M.A.S.H. is 1 storyline thought. Another thought if they trap and try to steal Skars blood; which would lead him to the rage of a parent.
we definitely need Sir Doug the Dog
Please Like So Ryan and Doug see this!!!
Hey Ryan I Really hope you see this. I don’t use twitter so hopefully this gets to you! Is there any particular reason you have not been doing videos for Rick and Morty season 6?! You are my favorite channel for all things Marvel, DC, movies and TV ..really just all things entertainment..and the current season has been great. This weeks episode (6.07) especially reminded me of your video about how Rick knows he is in a TV show! Anyways..you and Doug are the best and Happy Holidays!! Thanks Ryan!
I don’t want to see an army of Hulks any more than I want to see a symbiote army, it’s TOO MANY