@revolioclockbergjr.6780 if people want to act like they know about a certain topic while a very adjacent topic to the original exists, especially when it's tied closely to their own heritage and culture, then yeah, they probably should have an opinion on it. If they claim not to, they are most likely wilfully ignorant or clueless
It is indeed anti-black if the separatism is done voluntarily, because that would imply opposition to the separatist's freedom of association to associate only with people of like racial background. This concern also holds true for anti-white bigots who oppose white separatism. Live and let live; don't force people to interact with those they would prefer to avoid.
@@3112-x9r In a vaccuum you might be right, however in this case that "separatist's freedom to associate" is a euphemism for forming a black ethnostate. He's disagreeing with a racist, fascist, reactionary system of governance and not someone's individual freedom.
@@pakman184 It is not immoral to have an ethnostate among people who all consent to having it. You are not entitled to interacting with a set of people who wish to keep to themselves. That is what it means to have the freedom of association. All forms of racial separatism are acceptable so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of other people.
@@3112-x9r Again, you're thinking of this in a vacuum instead of the reality we live in. An ethnostate does not just suddenly pop up out of nowhere, full of everyone who wants to live there. Ethnostates are built by tyrannical and fascishistic leaders who kill, imprison, deport, and/or genocide the people who do not "belong" within it. There is no reality where an ethnostate appears without it infringing on the rights of many.
Destiny doesn’t deal with real “politics” per say, he does Cultural Warrior LARPing pretend politics. He would also probably tell you the same. Covering streamer drama ain’t politics.
idk why but i cringe uncontrollably when ppl fake laugh bro. like why tf do ppl do that shit ever. i understand being uncomfortable and doing it, but why here
Lmao I LOVE when destiny hate watches Vaush and makes snide remarks the whole time. Lol his voice at 25:10 “I’ve done videos…I’ve done videeeooooosss on this you bitch…!” I replayed this more times than I’d like to admit.
Man the “im not educated enough to explain this but am educated enough to say you’re wrong” thing drives me up the wall. If you cant defend your positions dont speak on them.
That sentiment used as body armour to protect themselves against fellow lefties. She knows she is being watched and has to tread carefully, she’s a HWhite woman talking about black sepretism after all
I get the feeling that Vaush and Destiny are so far removed from each other, that they now take each others hyperbolic irony posting seriosuly, which prompts further hyperbolic irony posting.
I’d agree if it wasn’t for the fact that I’m pretty sure that’s the first Destiny clip Vaush has had on his stream in like a year lmao, meanwhile Destiny is out here with his videos on Picture in Picture for literally hours in some streams. Destiny has all the context in the world to understand when Vaush is engaging in the exact same shitposting Destiny does (Ctrl-V) and yet (because yes - Destiny’s beliefs are spite driven regardless on how much you think making it a ‘meme’ changes the fact) whenever Vaush shitposts every DGG’er on the planet will suddenly pretend to 100% believe the statement and get triggered at the totally not ironic or overexaggerated remark lmao
@@Vin_Venture896 Vaush is kinda getting cozy with the post ironic humor when talking about Destiny though. His statement is clearly too dumb to be taken seriously but there's Vaushites that will believe it and use it for shitslinging against Destiny. Fucked up situation really, they could've been a socdem/lefty juggernaut together.
This comment section is crazy. How anyone can think this chick was on the side of logic is beyond me. You may not like the guy but she had no business even showing up to that “debate.” How can you openly admit you are uneducated on the topic and have the gall to immediately tell someone who is educated that they’re wrong and not give a single reason why? The fact she even agreed to have this “debate” tells us just how dumb she is.
You can tell most people commenting haven't even watched the video. They saw the title and thumbnail and assumed that Destiny and Vaush weren't on the same side but they are lol.
She says she's not educated enough on the topic to explain the difference between black nationalism and black separatism, yet is educated enough on the topics to argue in favor of those things? Amazin'.
Katee somehow manages to make Vaush look good. I swear every time she opens her mouth it's a disaster. 😂 Why is she even talking with Vaush about topics she understands very little about? She was unable to even defend her own position or substantiate her criticisms. She was so out of her element. "🤓 Actually you should listen to black supremacist experts so they can educate you on why you're wrong. I'm certainly in no position to do so but I know for a fact that you're wrong. 🤓"
Bruh came here to say this, she just kept saying "you're bad because people are saying you don't understand it.", "Ok what am I getting wrong?", "I'm not well educated on it, but people on the internet I talk to say you're wrong". Then let them come on and talk, Jesus
@@myronwilliams3340 I'm pretty sure she is wrong. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I think this whole thing started because Vaush disagreed with Prof. Flower's support for the deportation of white South Africans. Vaush is arguing against such ideologies.
Katee is so wrong. Black separatist absolutely think they are the superior race. Black separatist/ black nationalism is almost no different than nazism.
Really wish Katie would just stop talking period. Every single time I hear her speaking there's always multiple moments when she wants to tell people how they're wrong but then back track to I'm not educated enough on this subject....
@ezra Goldberg fairly certain those were cheap box braids and I really don't care about them as cultures across the globe have had a multitude of different braid styles. So I'm not gonna waste my time attempting to police each individual culture type to match them to the person wearing them.
YOOO this DLC is INSANE. We got Blitler AND Nazism 3 in the same expansion!? These devs are built different, I wonder what the next story arc is gonna be like
Look at all the “leftist” audiences. They tend to have hive mind mentality, mob mentality and hero worship of their internet “leaders”. They just blindly accept anything they say and don’t bother looking for context. Hassan or Vaouwnsche will watch a 5 second clip and draw immediate conclusions based purely on ideological grounds. Facts be damned. So is it really that surprising?
This is wild do you understand how crazy someone has to be to let vaush sound like the most reasonable person in the room. I actually forgot I was waiting for him to call destiny a nazi
Destiny going "OOOHH 😎" after every debate bro "dunk" vaush does instead of just talking like a normal human being makes vaush just bearable enough for me to listen to
On the other end, what happens if they get what they want? What leader or group of leaders are going to represent ALL black people? XD It's silliness. Ethnostates are a bad idea wholesale.
not a fan of Vaush recently but why is everbody saying the girl is making him look good here? Vaush is unironically great here, regardless of his silly debate partner. Calm, well spoken and rational.
I think it's mostly just Dgg tribalism. I'm not the biggest vaush fan especially recently but I think it's bad optics for both Vaush and Destiny to admit when the both of them did something good. Not only because of deep personal beef but it also drives views.
IMO both Destiny and Vaush benifit from drama baiting each other. Destiny will be overly uncharitable of Vaush and Vaush will be overly uncharitable towards Destiny
"He is great here" I mean I guess if you think winning a debate against a lobotomy patient is super impressive, it's not he who made himself look good, it's the complete retardation of Katee that did.
I think you just don't pay attention to anything she says. because she speaks with conviction (most of the time) and isn't a pushover. I guess sometimes she takes like 30 seconds to formulate a thought or something? is that what you mean? Is your attention span so fried that after 30 seconds you already lost attention?
@@sugarbirb5145 Not as embarrassed as you should be for being incapable of stringing together a coherent question. Lmfao imagine accusing me of not thinking after spewing out that absolute gem. You know you can plan this out, it's all text based, you have all the time in the world to figure out how express your wrong opinions. Do better.
@@extremedrumming3393 I don't think either should be laughed at. Like some people get tatoos or piercings and those shouldn't be laughed at either ya know? Why can't we be nice to each other.
Destiny was using the same obfuscation as this lady to deny that Nick Fuentes is a Nazi. I wish he had just stuck to "if someone is interesting and treats me well, I can look past their abhorrent views". That was at least honest.
The difference is when destiny says he’s not sure if nick was a nazi, he still held strong moral language about nick’s views being unacceptable. It’s not like the two options were “nazi” and “normie”. The discussion was if it was even useful to parade around calling people nazi’s or if it was more productive to talk about the views themselves and demonstrate why they are morally abhorrent.
I dont think she even knows what the debate is about. She only hears "black" and "i disagree" and shes looking for a way to make this about being anti-black.
Black separatism is definitely a dumb position, I feel like it was useful during the time that it originated, but it’s completely misguided nowadays. And I’ve found that most people who are black separatists today are just uncritically stealing and regurgitating the viewpoints of black separatists of the past. It’s literally like getting in a time machine when speaking to them. When I was younger, I was friendly with a few people who were part of a separatist group. I would always question them about their beliefs, and eventually I asked one too many questions and they just stopped speaking to me 😂
I had a friend in middle school who I just kind of lost touch with because we went to different high schools. After high school we met again through my girlfriends friends but suddenly she was like a hotep black supremacist. She still acted friendly to me in person but I’d see the crazy stuff she was posting on Facebook about how white people were inherently evil and it really freaked me out.
They also murder a lot apparently according to Vaush. Kinda crazy you can make claims like that in this community and never have to prove or substantiate it. Makes all these "debates" feel like idiots confidently talking out of their ass.
Also there's a big difference between making private spaces that you control the membership I.E. private business or homes and only allowing x group to be allowed there vs making segregation the law in public land or territory. Plus it's impossible to actually do this without a willing population of non-black people to agree on the terms or else it's going to be war, genocide, etc. If you ask these people "how do you intend to create an ethnostate and where" they never have any answer that holds up to basic scrutiny because it's functionally impossible to do without massive logistical issues
@@idimo7976 Because Black people ARE America/Americans. Black people helped build and cultivate America and Black people helped enrich America. Why would Black people as an entire race just leave a land they helped develop?
At this point, I'm willing to allege that Katee probably is repulsed by her own skin tone to such a degree that it renders her incapable of honest dialogue.
He's playing a character, his Irishladdie days were the closest thing to him becoming a real boy, but he reverted back to his original Birch or possibly Maple self, lol.
He gets by purely on flowery language and feeding into insane leftists view that Nazis are around every corner and they are the only ones that can pick them out in milliseconds.
I'm pretty upset seeing Katee's hair. That is clear cultural appropriation and as a proud Ally I am shaking with tears in my eyes to see her usurp a BIPOC centric hair expression. Her employer will hear about this.
"It's Amazing!" 8 minutes in and I'm not mad at Vaush's takes even with Destiny's ooohhhhs in the background making it seem as if it was something radical. Let's see if we make it 10🤷♂️
Most blatant clickbait I've seen in destiny's content so far, pretty disappointing to see. I've had to ditch content creators in the past for delving into clickbait titles and wasting my time in the process, hope this isn't going to be one of those time.
I was going to jokingly point out that you can hear (and visualize!) Katee opening and taking a swig from her 2-liter of cola, but then Destiny did a similar thing less than a minute later. 😅
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Destiny get this worked up by a white person being just as charitable to white people as she’s being to black people. Destiny can have full conversations with Nick Fuentes being super racist against black people and not bat an eye and in fact declare Nick Fuentes “very intelligent”… and then get super worked up by this woman defending black people. The more I watch Destiny, the more I realize he’s far more accepting of anti black sentiment than he is of anti white… and it’s a shame because for the last year I watched his content religiously.
Where did Destiny get worked up in this entire video? He barely said anything. The most he got worked up throughout this entire video was when, midway through, he went through an ENTIRELY unrelated rant about the other lady. He spent the majority of the video sarcastically memeing. Also, he's not laughing at any pro or anti black sentiment, he's laughing at the idea of someone going to debate someone and then saying "I'm not educated enough to tell you why you're wrong, but you're wrong" because that's retarded as fuck. Destiny is probably the only guy who's ever called Nick Fuentes on his bullshit face to face and you're sitting there like an idiot going "yeah it seems like he agrees with nick fuentes"
Well something deemed "super racist" against black people by todays standards is often the truth while being overly charitable to some black people is lying.
9:00 one of rojava's most notable and commendable features is not just how multiethnic it is, but how actively and purposefully the government protects and includes in government all ethnicities in the region. the entire point is that it _isn't_ an ethnostate in a part of the world where a hell of a lot of people are trying real hard to create them
@@TecTitan that's why "Kurdistan" is kind of a misnomer today (not to mention that there's a very clear distinction between rojava/PYD and the much more conservative KRI/KRG in Iraq, both of which are referred to as "Kurdistan" all the time, and that doesn't even touch on the historically Kurdish regions in Iran). the Kurdish project's goal in Syria isn't an independent Kurdish state, it's a multiethnic autonomous region of a federated Syria. notably for the region, rojava also does the same thing with gender: all positions of state authority (including the military) are held by two people, a man and a woman, who share equal authority - two generals, two presidents, two leaders of parliament, etc.
With respect to the Kurds and Kurdistan, their situation is not at all comparable with black separatism. The US is a liberal democracy which first had to fight a violent war to grant personhood to black people, but after which black people were able to advocate for themselves through peaceful means, i.e. civil rights. The Kurds are an ethnic minority from the Kurdistan region. The Kurdistan region spans where Turkey, Iraq, Iran, and Syria's borders meet. Two of those countries aren't exactly whole countries. One of them is a Shia theocracy (meanwhile Kurds are mostly Sunni). And the last one is an ultra-nationalist autocracy which has consistently banned Kurdish political parties. We read a cringey CRT teaching guideline about teaching math with physical activity so black people can learn it better. Meanwhile in Turkey, you can't teach fractions in Kurdish. All of this is to say, Kurdish separatist efforts in Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Turkey are vastly more justified than black separatist movements in the US.
"let me educate you about how uneducated you are about this topic but I can't educate you because I'm not educated enough on this topic therefore you're wrong" non educating intensifies
In reference to who he could make a podcast with: "Who have very strong personalities and who can voice disagreements in really aggressive ways." I can't think of an orbiter farther from that definition than Farha. Sucks it takes a boring woman he's sleeping with to get him to go out of his way to make actual content
@@IRepko She's bi. Destiny said that Zherka slept with Bxbullet when he stayed with her for a week and said it was obvious that anyone staying with each-other like that probably slept together, think it's probably fair to assume the same with him and Farha. She's not anywhere near as good of content as Lav was, it's the only possible explanation for him to bend over backwards to make content with her.
@@codyb.3015 Or he just wants exposure to the gen z female audience like he did with Fuentes and the gen z male audience. Man's running a business here, the pussy is just an added benefit.
Vaush takes himself so seriously while pretending he can actually laugh at himself like Destiny can It must be a painful experience to wake up and be like “fuck I’m Vaush”
Dude is well above the median income and has a lax af job--as he hardly prepare for anything anymore. You really think that's a painful experience? Have you been outside lately? You're letting parasocial hate rot your brain.
I love this idea of putting bl Infront of things to make them black versions of it lmao.......black+Puerto Ricans= Blortoricans, black+Santa=Blanta, black+conservatives=Blanservatives😅
I’m new to the whole RUclips podcaster thing, but there’s one thing I haven’t quite got my head around yet…. This Vaush guy seems incredibly obnoxious, unpleasant, and if a lot of the anecdotes I see around are anything to go by, somewhat of a pr*dator too. So……… what gives? Why do people listen to him?
It’s so odd. He talks like his shit smells like perfume. I guess the only people that like him are either severely mentally unstable or they have the same personality as him. He’s gross.
How is naziism 3 already out and I haven’t even started naziism 2
I’m barely through the content update patch for 1.5!
💀
😂
Damn it must be pretty popular to get a 3rd season
I'm in Nazism 2.5. Definitely a good improvement over 2. I can't wait to get my hands on 3 lmao
Here's this girl's argument summed up: "I don't know enough to argue or support my opinion. But I know enough to know that you're wrong."
That is katee in a nutshell
@@AllYouHaveToDoIsBeHonest Does every Jewish person need to tell you what they think about a country in the middle east?
That's most people to be fair.
@@Gizzardx0 Yes it's 2023 you have to have an opinion about anything and everything political even if it's your first time hearing about it /s
@revolioclockbergjr.6780 if people want to act like they know about a certain topic while a very adjacent topic to the original exists, especially when it's tied closely to their own heritage and culture, then yeah, they probably should have an opinion on it. If they claim not to, they are most likely wilfully ignorant or clueless
Its almost a meme how often Vauwsh uses the term facist. Literally the stereotype of leftists
Vaush is how the average conservative thinks liberals are like.
Fascist doesn't really mean anything anymore. Nobody uses that term correctly
His parents are fascists because they live in Beverly Hills.
dont forget that each death is genocide.
@@brendanstanley9323 oh yeah just like notsee doesn’t mean anything and you can’t call Nick a notsee because of… reasons
Leave it to Katee to make Vaush sound reasonable
What does this Jewish woman think about the Israeli ethnostate?
@@AllYouHaveToDoIsBeHonest in a roundabout way it's misogyny somehow
@@AllYouHaveToDoIsBeHonest what do you think about people spamming videos with copy pasted replies?
vaush is reasonable
@@Guts17-q4n
it's dgg brain rot
Vaush: "I don't agree with black separatism"
Katee: "That's really anti-black of you. Let me educate you on my people"
*PINK DREADS INTENSIFY*
It is indeed anti-black if the separatism is done voluntarily, because that would imply opposition to the separatist's freedom of association to associate only with people of like racial background. This concern also holds true for anti-white bigots who oppose white separatism. Live and let live; don't force people to interact with those they would prefer to avoid.
@@3112-x9r In a vaccuum you might be right, however in this case that "separatist's freedom to associate" is a euphemism for forming a black ethnostate. He's disagreeing with a racist, fascist, reactionary system of governance and not someone's individual freedom.
@@pakman184 It is not immoral to have an ethnostate among people who all consent to having it. You are not entitled to interacting with a set of people who wish to keep to themselves. That is what it means to have the freedom of association. All forms of racial separatism are acceptable so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of other people.
@@3112-x9r Again, you're thinking of this in a vacuum instead of the reality we live in. An ethnostate does not just suddenly pop up out of nowhere, full of everyone who wants to live there. Ethnostates are built by tyrannical and fascishistic leaders who kill, imprison, deport, and/or genocide the people who do not "belong" within it. There is no reality where an ethnostate appears without it infringing on the rights of many.
@@3112-x9r
POLITICS IN A DESTINY VIDEO?
Politics? In my Destiny Video?
@@nicememes7570 It's more likely than you think!
The last thing you’d want in your destiny video is somebody’s politics- but it turns out, that might be just what you get
Destiny doesn’t deal with real “politics” per say, he does Cultural Warrior LARPing pretend politics. He would also probably tell you the same. Covering streamer drama ain’t politics.
@@jnnx
destiny laughing like a teapot is the funniest shit ever
idk why but i cringe uncontrollably when ppl fake laugh bro. like why tf do ppl do that shit ever. i understand being uncomfortable and doing it, but why here
Lmao I LOVE when destiny hate watches Vaush and makes snide remarks the whole time. Lol his voice at 25:10 “I’ve done videos…I’ve done videeeooooosss on this you bitch…!” I replayed this more times than I’d like to admit.
@@DavidJones-ot8qu destiny was fake laughing?
@@MrAndeweg sounded like it; he’s fake laughing like 90% of the time. i think he’s just constantly on edge tbh
😂
Man the “im not educated enough to explain this but am educated enough to say you’re wrong” thing drives me up the wall. If you cant defend your positions dont speak on them.
Aka not knowing right from wrong and just wanting to blindly virtue signal for shallow self interests instead
That sentiment used as body armour to protect themselves against fellow lefties. She knows she is being watched and has to tread carefully, she’s a HWhite woman talking about black sepretism after all
But she has emotions and needs to be validated 😂
I get the feeling that Vaush and Destiny are so far removed from each other, that they now take each others hyperbolic irony posting seriosuly, which prompts further hyperbolic irony posting.
Two confident idiots
I’d agree if it wasn’t for the fact that I’m pretty sure that’s the first Destiny clip Vaush has had on his stream in like a year lmao, meanwhile Destiny is out here with his videos on Picture in Picture for literally hours in some streams. Destiny has all the context in the world to understand when Vaush is engaging in the exact same shitposting Destiny does (Ctrl-V) and yet (because yes - Destiny’s beliefs are spite driven regardless on how much you think making it a ‘meme’ changes the fact) whenever Vaush shitposts every DGG’er on the planet will suddenly pretend to 100% believe the statement and get triggered at the totally not ironic or overexaggerated remark lmao
It’s like the most autistist horseshoe theory were working with
@@Vin_Venture896 Vaush is kinda getting cozy with the post ironic humor when talking about Destiny though. His statement is clearly too dumb to be taken seriously but there's Vaushites that will believe it and use it for shitslinging against Destiny.
Fucked up situation really, they could've been a socdem/lefty juggernaut together.
@@Vin_Venture896 HOLY FUCK BASED.
This comment section is crazy. How anyone can think this chick was on the side of logic is beyond me. You may not like the guy but she had no business even showing up to that “debate.” How can you openly admit you are uneducated on the topic and have the gall to immediately tell someone who is educated that they’re wrong and not give a single reason why? The fact she even agreed to have this “debate” tells us just how dumb she is.
She actually asked to be on and debate him too. He didn’t ask her. Guess she was confident and crumbled.
Most of the YT comments on Destiny videos lean towards the right. Destiny's subreddit is much more left-leaning than his RUclips community.
You can tell most people commenting haven't even watched the video. They saw the title and thumbnail and assumed that Destiny and Vaush weren't on the same side but they are lol.
@@Apollo-iq1vx That has nothing to do with it. The right would side with Vaush on this, obviously.
It’s VDS (Vaush Derangement Syndrome).
She says she's not educated enough on the topic to explain the difference between black nationalism and black separatism, yet is educated enough on the topics to argue in favor of those things?
Amazin'.
Is there that much of a difference between black separatism and black nationalism?? I kinda thought they were the same thing
@@Saint_Sigismund It seems like Katee couldn’t tell you
@@Saint_Sigismund I think not all black nationalists are separatists, but probably all separatists are nationalists.
GET EM JLP 🥳
Good ol' Krunning Duger. I've studied this stuff for entire minutes.
Katee somehow manages to make Vaush look good. I swear every time she opens her mouth it's a disaster. 😂
Why is she even talking with Vaush about topics she understands very little about? She was unable to even defend her own position or substantiate her criticisms. She was so out of her element.
"🤓 Actually you should listen to black supremacist experts so they can educate you on why you're wrong. I'm certainly in no position to do so but I know for a fact that you're wrong. 🤓"
Bruh came here to say this, she just kept saying "you're bad because people are saying you don't understand it.", "Ok what am I getting wrong?", "I'm not well educated on it, but people on the internet I talk to say you're wrong". Then let them come on and talk, Jesus
She wasn't wrong but couldn't defend the point
@@myronwilliams3340 I'm pretty sure she is wrong. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I think this whole thing started because Vaush disagreed with Prof. Flower's support for the deportation of white South Africans. Vaush is arguing against such ideologies.
Only katee could make vaush look good Jesus Christs
@@AllYouHaveToDoIsBeHonest Over 20% of Israeli citizens are not Jewish so how is Israel an ethnostate?
Katee is so wrong. Black separatist absolutely think they are the superior race. Black separatist/ black nationalism is almost no different than nazism.
Man, it must be way harder to think you are the superior race if you happen to be black.
Really wish Katie would just stop talking period. Every single time I hear her speaking there's always multiple moments when she wants to tell people how they're wrong but then back track to I'm not educated enough on this subject....
But how do you feel about the Pink dread extensions?
@ezra Goldberg fairly certain those were cheap box braids and I really don't care about them as cultures across the globe have had a multitude of different braid styles. So I'm not gonna waste my time attempting to police each individual culture type to match them to the person wearing them.
@@ezragoldberg3132 is there a word that means "I want to burn that thing to death in a fire" ??? That word is how I feel about wearing fake dreads
YOOO this DLC is INSANE. We got Blitler AND Nazism 3 in the same expansion!? These devs are built different, I wonder what the next story arc is gonna be like
Delivers on their promises
unlike ow2
“Blitler” is my new go to slur.
Vaush misrepresening Destiny's positions??? *shocked pikachu face*
This has never happened with Vaush ever!
Destiny at 8:18 literally can’t let Vaush finish a sentence before misinterpreting something he says.
@@josevonbuergenwader2 He does this all the time, and his fans do exactly the same. They just parrot any nonsense this dude says. Shits insanity
@@josevonbuergenwader2 Did you watch the video past that to where Destiny immediately corrects himself or did the soy take ahold of your brain?
@@JohnDoe-kn7ex just leave them to stew in their brain rot. They're Vauwsh fans, their capacity for critical thinking isn't exactly great.
My brain is in pieces, shes actually making vaush seem reasomable af right here
He is reasonable af
He already is
I genuinely don't understand how Vaush's audience still takes him seriously.
We were always in it for the lulz
Look at all the “leftist” audiences. They tend to have hive mind mentality, mob mentality and hero worship of their internet “leaders”. They just blindly accept anything they say and don’t bother looking for context. Hassan or Vaouwnsche will watch a 5 second clip and draw immediate conclusions based purely on ideological grounds. Facts be damned.
So is it really that surprising?
Just like i genuinely dont understand how you can say so little with how many comments you post
@@lilthreadd cope
If you pay close attention, it's his audience who feeds him the narrative they want to hear, it's a bit of an audience capture
I cannot believe i actually agree with Vaush on something. Holy shit.
*Confused Cena Face*
This is wild do you understand how crazy someone has to be to let vaush sound like the most reasonable person in the room. I actually forgot I was waiting for him to call destiny a nazi
Word
Destiny going "OOOHH 😎" after every debate bro "dunk" vaush does instead of just talking like a normal human being makes vaush just bearable enough for me to listen to
I love it so much, I can't even articulate why
@@junk1308
Same 😭😭😭
Vaush based AF. Racial separatism of any kind is authoritarianism or authoritarianism adjacent, and also Katee was her usual bag of awful
On the other end, what happens if they get what they want?
What leader or group of leaders are going to represent ALL black people? XD It's silliness. Ethnostates are a bad idea wholesale.
@@TecTitan True, exactly.
Really weird how Vaush can have a conversation like this and also have his reaction to the NY bike "Karen" in such a short amount of time.
It’s because this conversation is about takes from a time where he still tried
LMAO NEEDS SOMEONE WITH AN AGGRESSIVE AND STRONG PERSONALITY AND HE PICKS FARHA!
Dudes will say anything for some ass
I can't wait until Destiny stops tryna kick start her career tbh, not even tryna be mean she just isn't interesting.
Calm down hes got diversity quotas to fill.
@@sticks7857 "diversity" I ain't seen one fat chick yet!
I read this in Quarntos voice
not a fan of Vaush recently but why is everbody saying the girl is making him look good here? Vaush is unironically great here, regardless of his silly debate partner. Calm, well spoken and rational.
I think it's mostly just Dgg tribalism. I'm not the biggest vaush fan especially recently but I think it's bad optics for both Vaush and Destiny to admit when the both of them did something good. Not only because of deep personal beef but it also drives views.
IMO both Destiny and Vaush benifit from drama baiting each other. Destiny will be overly uncharitable of Vaush and Vaush will be overly uncharitable towards Destiny
@@Stardustphantom97 Destiny obviously knows Vaush has double the iq of Katee but is laughing at all the Vaushisms for the meme potential
That's true. Thank god I orbit both of these guys.
"He is great here" I mean I guess if you think winning a debate against a lobotomy patient is super impressive, it's not he who made himself look good, it's the complete retardation of Katee that did.
"[Farha] barely talks just blankly stares" That's actual FACTS
I know ya’ll play those videos as background noise because this is not true 💀
I think you just don't pay attention to anything she says. because she speaks with conviction (most of the time) and isn't a pushover. I guess sometimes she takes like 30 seconds to formulate a thought or something? is that what you mean? Is your attention span so fried that after 30 seconds you already lost attention?
Are you embarrassed that thinking before talking is something she can do and you possibly can’t ?
@@sugarbirb5145 Not as embarrassed as you should be for being incapable of stringing together a coherent question. Lmfao imagine accusing me of not thinking after spewing out that absolute gem. You know you can plan this out, it's all text based, you have all the time in the world to figure out how express your wrong opinions. Do better.
If Farha is a "strong personality" then I am Andrew Tate.
I'm 6'6" and in complete control of my life.
She is tho. Why the Farha hate?
@@Seri-dy5dd Because she’s boring and is devoid of any charisma. She’s like every other basic feminist out there with no new or interesting opinions.
@@jalenbelin6569 I thinks she is smarter than the average feminist out there and can weasel around in a conversation well.
@@Seri-dy5dd hope she sees this bro
Destiny laughing at somebody else’s hair is hilarious
I'll never understand why people like you get so scandalized by colored hair.
@@extremedrumming3393 I don't think either should be laughed at. Like some people get tatoos or piercings and those shouldn't be laughed at either ya know? Why can't we be nice to each other.
@@rapidashrorschachtest430 this is the internet, being nice is vanilla and cringe
@@rapidashrorschachtest430we should laugh at those people. They look like clowns.
At least it wasn't Nazism IV: Blinking an odd number of times in half the rooms you go in. That one's *really* bad!
She is not well educated enough to have to make a statement but is educated enough to just say the dude is wrong. She is bulletproof 🤣
Destiny was using the same obfuscation as this lady to deny that Nick Fuentes is a Nazi. I wish he had just stuck to "if someone is interesting and treats me well, I can look past their abhorrent views". That was at least honest.
The difference is when destiny says he’s not sure if nick was a nazi, he still held strong moral language about nick’s views being unacceptable. It’s not like the two options were “nazi” and “normie”. The discussion was if it was even useful to parade around calling people nazi’s or if it was more productive to talk about the views themselves and demonstrate why they are morally abhorrent.
*Nazism III: This time, we're going global*
Ive never seen Destiny laugh and fold over like that before lmao
Look up "What is an NFT" and you'll see his Limit Break fold
I don't know. Destiny saying "oooohhhhhhh" every five seconds kind of gets to me.
It’s really fucking annoying.
Made me laugh.
6:50
Ladies and gentlemen, the extremely rare based vaush moment.
Hold on, we are on Nazism 3? when did i miss Nazism 1.5 and 2.0 wtf? I havemore questions now 😂😂😂
I think 1.5 was when the American skinhead arrive but I still don't know what patch 2 and 2.5 was
Jokes on you, Nazism 3 is just the Overwatch 2 of Nazism 1. We were promised a new mode but the only change is there's less players.
damnnn destiny wants vaush back soooooo bad lmaooo
???
I don't think so lol
Lmao i thought mr girl was insane until destiny announced his podcast with Farah
Vaush is just so good at this.
I love Destiny’s worn out squeaky toy laugh.
How is anything vaush said to her in any way objectionable?
It isn't, "Vaush bad" is the new "America bad" the political position.
This is the most semantics driven conversation I’ve ever heard. God damn this is frustrating
I dont think she even knows what the debate is about. She only hears "black" and "i disagree" and shes looking for a way to make this about being anti-black.
Katee is so insufferable she makes Vaush looks good in comparison.
2:20 translation: if I want to get in their pants, that means you have to believe they're good content. You have to pretend with me.
Black separatism is definitely a dumb position, I feel like it was useful during the time that it originated, but it’s completely misguided nowadays. And I’ve found that most people who are black separatists today are just uncritically stealing and regurgitating the viewpoints of black separatists of the past. It’s literally like getting in a time machine when speaking to them. When I was younger, I was friendly with a few people who were part of a separatist group. I would always question them about their beliefs, and eventually I asked one too many questions and they just stopped speaking to me 😂
I had a friend in middle school who I just kind of lost touch with because we went to different high schools. After high school we met again through my girlfriends friends but suddenly she was like a hotep black supremacist.
She still acted friendly to me in person but I’d see the crazy stuff she was posting on Facebook about how white people were inherently evil and it really freaked me out.
They also murder a lot apparently according to Vaush. Kinda crazy you can make claims like that in this community and never have to prove or substantiate it. Makes all these "debates" feel like idiots confidently talking out of their ass.
Also there's a big difference between making private spaces that you control the membership I.E. private business or homes and only allowing x group to be allowed there vs making segregation the law in public land or territory. Plus it's impossible to actually do this without a willing population of non-black people to agree on the terms or else it's going to be war, genocide, etc.
If you ask these people "how do you intend to create an ethnostate and where" they never have any answer that holds up to basic scrutiny because it's functionally impossible to do without massive logistical issues
Why is it misguided nowadays?
@@idimo7976 Because Black people ARE America/Americans. Black people helped build and cultivate America and Black people helped enrich America. Why would Black people as an entire race just leave a land they helped develop?
At this point, I'm willing to allege that Katee probably is repulsed by her own skin tone to such a degree that it renders her incapable of honest dialogue.
I'm still not convinced Vaush is a real person, and not just playing a character.
I'm convinced he's an undercover Nazi: that's why his character is the worst possible Leftist.
"Control the opposition by BECOMING the opposition"
He's playing a character, his Irishladdie days were the closest thing to him becoming a real boy, but he reverted back to his original Birch or possibly Maple self, lol.
He gets by purely on flowery language and feeding into insane leftists view that Nazis are around every corner and they are the only ones that can pick them out in milliseconds.
The way he talks…with such self assurance with only a bachelors degree is hilarious.
@@jimmyramos1989 He can tell things more about a 2 millisecond clip then anyone else possibly can.....hes that smart!! the white one is bad!!
Katee out here looking like the twins with dreads from the second matrix movie lol.
I'm pretty upset seeing Katee's hair. That is clear cultural appropriation and as a proud Ally I am shaking with tears in my eyes to see her usurp a BIPOC centric hair expression. Her employer will hear about this.
I am become racism
I'm so proud of this community
Based
19:34 destiny sounds like a teapot whistling 😂
Tea is ready 🧓🏻
"It's Amazing!" 8 minutes in and I'm not mad at Vaush's takes even with Destiny's ooohhhhs in the background making it seem as if it was something radical. Let's see if we make it 10🤷♂️
Vaushs cadence deepens every day.
Not to be pedantic, but cadence means something like "rhythm" or "tempo. Perhaps you mean "tone", or just "voice"?
Bro, I just installed my naziism 3 patch. All I saw was a blue hair liberal.
Vaush talks like a video game NPC
@amifiii265 He is the dumb persons version of a smart guy.
this was actually a good vausch piece. well done sir
Damn, Vaush is now red pilled and based!
Someone needs to make a supercut of Vaush comparing people to Nazis. It would be hours long.
Destiny was definitely on something in this
Adderall and/or her period
the caller should look at Liberia. See how they are doing.
This title is pretty misleading. Destiny basically agreed with vaush for the most part in this debate.
But that doesn't get as many clicks
What grifters do bro. Your feelings for clicks.
Most blatant clickbait I've seen in destiny's content so far, pretty disappointing to see. I've had to ditch content creators in the past for delving into clickbait titles and wasting my time in the process, hope this isn't going to be one of those time.
@@bangkokinc.4233 you might want to look at what the word grifter means
@@sticks7857 stop crying about clickbait you tiny baby, that’s how RUclipsrs get people to click on their videos
Vowsh is starting to sound like some guru who's been cooped up in his hideout and not gone out once since 2020.
Wait… are you serious? destiny is doing a podcast with farha, fuck
It'll last 2 months tops, he's done similar ventures in the past and never sticks with them.
@@codyb.3015 Not to mention he always does them with very snakey people and always gives the other party way more credit than they deserve
Him and chud logic would be a way better duo
Nazism 3? Do i need to upgrade my video card?
Who let the air out of the ballon.😂😂😂 19:34
These are the best conversations because I have no idea what anyone's talking about and why they care.
Destiny in summary:
"OOOOOOooooooohh"
They said so many words and literally went no nowhere.
I've not seen Vaush much lately, I thought he'd grown out of calling everyone a Fascist or a Nazi. How wrong I was, he's got worse.
Why does he talk like he's presenting a history documentary
It a pretty cold day in hell when I agree with Vaush on things. Hope everyone down there packed a sweater.
Came for the powerful independent girl's name, stayed for the wheeze laugh
More importantly she lost her job and had to go through re-education training
I was going to jokingly point out that you can hear (and visualize!) Katee opening and taking a swig from her 2-liter of cola, but then Destiny did a similar thing less than a minute later. 😅
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Destiny get this worked up by a white person being just as charitable to white people as she’s being to black people. Destiny can have full conversations with Nick Fuentes being super racist against black people and not bat an eye and in fact declare Nick Fuentes “very intelligent”… and then get super worked up by this woman defending black people. The more I watch Destiny, the more I realize he’s far more accepting of anti black sentiment than he is of anti white… and it’s a shame because for the last year I watched his content religiously.
Agreed. I feel like he's in general much more forgiving of hardline conservative ideas than he is of far left ideas.
Where did Destiny get worked up in this entire video? He barely said anything. The most he got worked up throughout this entire video was when, midway through, he went through an ENTIRELY unrelated rant about the other lady.
He spent the majority of the video sarcastically memeing. Also, he's not laughing at any pro or anti black sentiment, he's laughing at the idea of someone going to debate someone and then saying "I'm not educated enough to tell you why you're wrong, but you're wrong" because that's retarded as fuck.
Destiny is probably the only guy who's ever called Nick Fuentes on his bullshit face to face and you're sitting there like an idiot going "yeah it seems like he agrees with nick fuentes"
Well something deemed "super racist" against black people by todays standards is often the truth while being overly charitable to some black people is lying.
I laughed in sync when Vaush said “I’ve done videos on this.” Like same reaction 😂😂😂😂. “Some emmitt till shit.” 😂😂😂😂
why do online people say Nazi so much?
Welcome to the Internet buddy. You'll never be the same
Pretty cool that Destiny turns into a Banshee at 19:34. Never knew he could do that!
9:00 one of rojava's most notable and commendable features is not just how multiethnic it is, but how actively and purposefully the government protects and includes in government all ethnicities in the region. the entire point is that it _isn't_ an ethnostate in a part of the world where a hell of a lot of people are trying real hard to create them
Now that's interesting
@@TecTitan that's why "Kurdistan" is kind of a misnomer today (not to mention that there's a very clear distinction between rojava/PYD and the much more conservative KRI/KRG in Iraq, both of which are referred to as "Kurdistan" all the time, and that doesn't even touch on the historically Kurdish regions in Iran). the Kurdish project's goal in Syria isn't an independent Kurdish state, it's a multiethnic autonomous region of a federated Syria. notably for the region, rojava also does the same thing with gender: all positions of state authority (including the military) are held by two people, a man and a woman, who share equal authority - two generals, two presidents, two leaders of parliament, etc.
With respect to the Kurds and Kurdistan, their situation is not at all comparable with black separatism.
The US is a liberal democracy which first had to fight a violent war to grant personhood to black people, but after which black people were able to advocate for themselves through peaceful means, i.e. civil rights.
The Kurds are an ethnic minority from the Kurdistan region. The Kurdistan region spans where Turkey, Iraq, Iran, and Syria's borders meet. Two of those countries aren't exactly whole countries. One of them is a Shia theocracy (meanwhile Kurds are mostly Sunni). And the last one is an ultra-nationalist autocracy which has consistently banned Kurdish political parties.
We read a cringey CRT teaching guideline about teaching math with physical activity so black people can learn it better. Meanwhile in Turkey, you can't teach fractions in Kurdish.
All of this is to say, Kurdish separatist efforts in Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Turkey are vastly more justified than black separatist movements in the US.
Yeah, if it was still Jim Crow era in USA, the situations would be more comparable
"let me educate you about how uneducated you are about this topic but I can't educate you because I'm not educated enough on this topic therefore you're wrong"
non educating intensifies
In reference to who he could make a podcast with:
"Who have very strong personalities and who can voice disagreements in really aggressive ways."
I can't think of an orbiter farther from that definition than Farha.
Sucks it takes a boring woman he's sleeping with to get him to go out of his way to make actual content
I thought Farha was gay? Or is that a meme
@@IRepko She's bi. Destiny said that Zherka slept with Bxbullet when he stayed with her for a week and said it was obvious that anyone staying with each-other like that probably slept together, think it's probably fair to assume the same with him and Farha. She's not anywhere near as good of content as Lav was, it's the only possible explanation for him to bend over backwards to make content with her.
@@codyb.3015 Or he just wants exposure to the gen z female audience like he did with Fuentes and the gen z male audience. Man's running a business here, the pussy is just an added benefit.
Destiny with the constant “ooooooooh” is driving me crazy.
Vaush takes himself so seriously while pretending he can actually laugh at himself like Destiny can
It must be a painful experience to wake up and be like “fuck I’m Vaush”
they dont know u bro. relax
this is pure cope lmao
I’m sure
Dude is well above the median income and has a lax af job--as he hardly prepare for anything anymore. You really think that's a painful experience? Have you been outside lately? You're letting parasocial hate rot your brain.
@@phoneAntics why did you delete your embarrassing rant about people making fun of vaush's speech patterns?
slapped my hands and rubbed them together when I saw the title
I’ve never seen destiny in this good of a mood
👃🍭
destiny laughing at her hair with his blue head ass is the best
Vawsh is real good at sounding smart and confident on some dumb bs take
Vaush doesn't understand how theories interplay with reality.
Destiny in his mind rent free.
He’s addressing destiny?! You would answer too, specially if you have more followers.
@@realmcafee I don't want more followers, I have no interest in e-celeb drama and bs.
@@Based_Stuhlingerreally? You're in the wrong comment section then, you self-aggrandizing liar.
30:18
This is going to give me nightmares tonight, thanks for pulling it up, Destiny 🤦♂️
Destiny's wheeze is like a fine wine
How this mans tone changes over the course of six hours
I love this idea of putting bl Infront of things to make them black versions of it lmao.......black+Puerto Ricans= Blortoricans, black+Santa=Blanta, black+conservatives=Blanservatives😅
Blanta is going to be a thing, I see it on front of my eyes ! Maybe it’s going to appear as a a bad comedy Movie.
Blanta 💀
Black + Orville Redenbacher = Blorville
@@realmcafee what the world really needs right now is a Blacula movie.
Blapes...dont ask me what I meant by that.
Destiny: I love him...I hate him... he's one of the most intriguing personalities on social media
I’m new to the whole RUclips podcaster thing, but there’s one thing I haven’t quite got my head around yet….
This Vaush guy seems incredibly obnoxious, unpleasant, and if a lot of the anecdotes I see around are anything to go by, somewhat of a pr*dator too. So……… what gives? Why do people listen to him?
It’s so odd. He talks like his shit smells like perfume. I guess the only people that like him are either severely mentally unstable or they have the same personality as him. He’s gross.
How do people take vaush seriously?
Idk lol he so cringe
I'm not sure that they do ...
Imagine a smart guy for dumb people, thats Vaush.
This chick literally has trouble following the conversation she's in