Trans Women Can Get Period Cramps? Destiny Gets Into Trans Debate
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
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Hi Trans women here. I've been on hormones for 4 years. We don't get periods. We're not all crazy just the ones on Twitter.
thank you for your service.
@@octs609 😂
I feel for you it is people like this that is going to make your life hard!
Great stuff
@@octs609 Thank you for your cervix.
"I just FEEL like" is the root of nearly everything wrong with the entire trans debate
This entire decade!
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I try to just say what I'm thinking straight or use I think at the beginning of my knowledge dropping.
…that’s literally the entire basis for transgenderism. You can’t criticize an argument based on feelings and then say it’s legitimate to make society refer to someone as the opposite sex based on that person’s feelings.
Destiny is clearly wrong here. I'm a trans woman and I get painful cramps in my stomach after I swallow an entire block of cheese. Checkmate.
Me: THESE ARE PERIOD PAINS, MUM!. Mum: No, son. youre an alcoholic.
OMG, I'm a CIS dude and I get painful cramps from that as well! Am I having periods!?
😂😂
You had us in the first half
I'm a block of cheese
"You can't have cramps if you don't have the thing that makes cramps!"
"I just _feel_ like..."
😂
When feelings don't care about facts
I can guarantee if they ever ONCE felt how bad period cramps CAN be, for some women, they'd be doing everything possible to get rid of them.
It's like phantom cramps
“Your facts won’t change my feelings!” Like… you don’t have to have period cramps to be trans.
Its crazy to me how delusional people are getting
Or maybe you are the crazy one, assuming that people are like this and not just the 1% that like the attention.
For real. It's so weird seeing one group try and convince people that all trans people must be some crazy delusional person incapable of being a rational being.......but then on another hand you see some trans and non-trans alike trying ton convince others that they can just materialize organs and functions around those organs out of nowhere. Both of these groups are making me feel like dysphoria and pursuing femininity as a cure isn't that big a deal compared to being these crazy people xD
Getting? They always were
😊😊t😅 on
Everyone is going crazy because the internet has created circlejerk zones where people just say non-sense and everyone accepts it.
I love how he started the conversation with “someone has to be the adult in the room” only to end up being obliterated on his point in the first 12 minutes 😂
“Huh huh huh im a little nervous” 🙄
I have a hard time believing people exist so confidently like this and aren't actually trolls. Accepting they're real people is actual pain.
Yea he ended up sounding stupid
These trans defenders are out of their gd minds
@@anthonybenincasa They're less a trans defender and more of an actual moron trying to disguise themselves as a supporter lol..I wish these "supporters" would gtfo because they're making the bar to sanity look quite low for what they claim to represent.
He's ego is usually unchecked
The smugness and confidence he came in with just to be insane
The fact they think they're doing something right too ugh
I know right lol
Watching him come in hot like that only to stumble over his words and fall apart over 40 minutes was amazing
And it happened kinda fast too 😂.
I don't know did I missr he seemed pretty fine
This whole 'trans women have period cramps' debacle really shows how little the average person understands about periods. The fact that a significant amount of people do not understand period cramps come from the uterus contracting to expel the uterine wall is insane. It's not a tummy ache, it's the uterus, which transwomen don't have.
Ultimately however, it is hormonal cramps. All genders can receive hormonal cramps, but only anatomical women can menstruate. The topic is misrepresented by the speaker as they are not knowledgeable enough to understand the difference. Also, when estrogenic hormones are introduced into a anatomical males body, they are more likely to develop hormonal cramps.
@@BriannaHall-ql6niim a trans woman and i get periods. Ive had cramps and checked underwear after and there was all blood on the back where the anus is
@@BriannaHall-ql6nino.
@@skuzzlebutt9745hahaha, that's not a result of being trans woman; that's a result of being a homosexual man.
@@Leo_Pard_A4 explain that how then
As someone from a bodybuilding background, it amazes me how little these people know about hormones and how they work
I’m super jealous of how knowledgeable about the body bbuilders are. Where do they find all the research and stuff?
That More Plates More Dates guy recentlt had a video where he went through some changes Gear users go through. Some dudes get all kinds if fetishes and sexual preferences, depreasion et al, Messing with hormones is a wild business bruh.
@@starlord157 most if it comes from clinical literature and personal experience on the bro forums. Bodybuilders have to know these things or they will permanently destroy their bodies. There is a reason we aren't so eager for trans identifying people to hop on hormones. The majority of the people who have experienced the worst sides of exogenous hormones are Bodybuilders.
@@Mr_Extra_Regular He has a name, SIR! (I’m pretty sure it’s Derrick)
@@jnnx lolz... thanks for that bro, I don't think he'd be offended if I referred to him by his channel name tho...
As a woman on my period rn, I’m just speechless….
thank you Destiny for speaking for us women at a loss for words, I don’t have the energy for this level of delusion
Right! I too am on my period and this period delusion drives me nuts. He only conceded when Destiny asked him if he would believe a trans man complaining about blue balls. This guy only understood why women are annoyed with this trans period stuff when he was presented with a situation that only bio males can experience. Meanwhile, womens unique experiences can be a figment of male imagination
Exactly… I was blown away how quickly he dismissed the idea of trans man experiencing “blue balls”!
The cognitive dissonance, and utter disregard for women is astounding.
Well it’s cause Destiny is a woman’s name
@Stolen Bronze and the crazy part, blue balls arent even real.
@@notanaughtymouse I mean, they kinda are.... The experience of blue balls is real
As a menstruating woman with fibroids and a history of painful periods (due to an organ known as the uterus), I can only roll my eyes. How did western society become so idiotic? I appreciate Destiny for showing common sense and knowing biology.
Because we've got a huge population of young people brought up to believe they have a duty to change the world for the better, but no accountability for being wrong. Thus they are easily maniplated by anyone claiming they're fighting for such "noble" concepts as human rights and social justice. No matter how many contradictions they face, they supress the cognitive disonance by telling themselves they're on the right side of history.
Why do you think trans woman having period symptoms makes you less of a woman? So insecure... 👀
@@irock123ab because they’re making a mockery of and actively celebrating a thing that is an, at times, very embarrassing and debilitating experience for biological women? I wonder why someone might be upset about that 😂
@@dylanshandley1246 where? Where are these strawmen who are mocking or celebrating periods?
@@irock123ab Have you actually looked at Twitter at all?
What's most annoying is that we all just seem to accept that injecting estrogen is all it would take to experience life as a woman. That's ridiculous.
Just more pretending from people who see nothing wrong with pretending. Frankly I think they think EVERYONE is faking so they are just playing the game.
@@sole__doubt clearly not ALL trans people are faking. Plenty of people have transitioned long before the times when it could possibly benefit them in some way.
@@sole__doubt There is nothing wrong with pretending
@@haha-r5tEverything is wrong with pretending in the real world. You wanna pretend? Play a video game then
@@Boss-ot1iy Okay tell me something wrong with pretending apart from ''everything''.
Some facts about period pain:
The uterus produces a chemical called "prostaglandin" which makes the uterus contract. Higher prostaglandin levels = higher contractions of the uterus = more pain.
The contractions can also put pressure on blood vessels around the uterus, interrupting the blood and oxygen supply to the muscles of the uterus.
Less oxygen = build up of lactic acid which causes pain (Anyone who had a intense workout will know what I mean with that.)
Knowing this, can trans women have period cramps? I think not.
Edit.
If you're a Trans Women and experience what you think are period cramps, I would highly suggest to go to the doctor asap. Another thing that is in your belly area that hurts like hell is the impending doom of your appendix.
Thank you for commenting this, the idea that you can have period cramps from ESTROGEN alone is crazy because there are just so many hormones involved in the menstrual cycle besides estrogen.
everything in your body produces prostaglandins, it’s the substrate for inflammation and not unique to having a uterus.
@@salkohrnjic1991 but isn’t the point, period cramps are cramps in the uterus. No uterus, then no uterus cramps, no “period cramps”.
I don't think any trans woman actually believes they have period cramps. They're just giddy at the thought of being part of womanhood so they delusionally proclaim they have period cramps. And then we have have an army people who insist that we must allow them to have that belief barring which, any attempt to tell the truth is seen as being unkind, rude, non inclusive or the regular one - a transphobe.
@@patmacrotch5611 I’ve experienced muscle pain associated with cramps in my lower back, abs, and obliques. It’s definitely not solely localized to the uterus, which is only about 3”x2”. I don’t know what the physiology of the pain is, but it definitely feels larger than just the one organ.
I don't know if Destiny gets to this, but it is pretty funny that this dude says "You can't deny its existence until it's been researched", so we should just accept that it's real until then. WTF?
Yes that’s what we have been doing this whole time ! Over confirming and burying their heads in the sand because they don’t want to deal with the backlash even when they know the facts.
"An assertion made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
~Christopher Hitchens
Sounds very Religious.
@@Zefurion1988 curious 🧐
@@GeekyC chill out, buddy
This man's argument "I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel"
Mrgirl?
"It's kind of unfair that-"
"I can sympathize, I can sympathize, I can sympathize"
I hear what you are saying... Where you are coming from...
"Fine, but I think"
I feel like there is a lot of trans women who are very misogynistic and are very dismissive to women and our experiences. Thank you for pushing back. It’s not about hate it about logic
That's because they're REAL women and not cis women.
I'm being sarcastic, but some of them actually believe that.
There aren't any trans women, just men with mental disorders and bad doctors
Lol there no such thing as a "trans woman"
Transgender people don't understand that sports competion has never been based on gender, but sex. Biological sex, which as they claim, is different thing than one's gender identification. Now, when it benefits them, they confuse the two?
@@ZawieHa *anatomical sex, to say biological, which is the study of life relating to behavioral patterns, would be implying that trans people are biologically born as one sex, because they are. An anatomical male can be a biological female, because their behavioral patterns and their neurological process can align with a different gender than their anatomical body.
this gave me period cramps in the brain
Must be the hormonal effect of listening to insanity.
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Hahahaha
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Congrats, you're a woman now.
If you never had a uterus and don't get one after transitioning, how would you even know the pain you're feeling is period pain. I was considering if people this ideologically crazy really existed just the other day. I appreciate the video proof.
Yes. History is examples of radical ideology gaining prominence and causing issues.
This take wont be popular here but you're witnessing radical liberalism contribute to the decay of society.
I’m just like why not call it pain… unless they know for a fact that they are having a period! Which I don’t think you can have without a uterus!
@@nikolastiscareno4963 Because society has already warped reality for them, why on earth would it not continue to do so.
If someone is having real absurd pain in that area, they should stop calling it a period, and go get their abdomen checked. Inb4 one of these people have an impacted or perforated bowel that they convince themselves is a period when really its just a piece of their intestinal tract dying.
@@ATXAdventure idk what you’re talking about lol
It is actually kinda scary to me that these people exist and really think trans women have periods of any sort. Everyone has hormone fluctuations throughout the month, but your body doesnt just suddenly turn into a womans body because youre taking estrogen.
As a woman, I’m starting to feel bullied by these activists. I have no problem with trans people, but being constantly attacked for being a woman, it’s getting annoying. I don’t like the Cis prefix, and I don’t like having to watch trans people win with a clear advantage. These are my only issues.
@@pommiebears Didn’t you listen to what destiny said ? Only men care about that kinda thing, and they only care about it because of the male gaze, same as for fat people, men don’t care about fat being promoted as good because it’s dangerous, they care about it because they don’t have pretty chicks to look at anymore. /s
> but your body doesnt just suddenly turn into a womans body because youre taking estrogen.
Wow how dare you, transphobia is off the charts in these comments. You know this attitude is what causes kids to kill themselves right?
@@pommiebears yeh the "jokes," about trans women being superior..and many of the comments. Feels bad
@@pommiebears makes me feel for all the "incel," guys who do not follow the incel ideology. Constantly being called toxic and insulted.
@21:00 “[I don’t know if I agree with your statement that] it feels sh!tty to women when transwomen come onto their community/spaces/sports, and that’s being dictated largely by an overwhelmingly male population..”. News flash: TRANSWOMEN ARE MALE, and have been raised with all of the male privilege that entails. We have had enough with males telling us what we can and can’t do, how to think, and how to describe ourselves and our experiences! Also: we’re not ‘cis-women’. We are WOMEN. Note also that *none* of this crap affects men. How would you like being reduced to an ‘ejaculator’ in the name of gender inclusivity?
As a woman who gets a period monthly, I have no idea why anyone is trying to argue for getting one. It’s not fun.
Because then they can further prove their delusion of being a woman and further the goal posts
They want the social sympathy for having that hardship.
it’s fetishists who highjack the trans movement online
@@josevonbuergenwader2it’s like sympathy signaling.
It's a sympathy thing and also to prove that they are in fact "real women".
Worst thing social media like Twitter has done, is give people like this a platform
Free speech my dude.
The problem started from Tumblr.
@lam PAd True true. In fact I'm clicking off this video, because honestly who cares what some random Twitter maniac is saying. He can cook, we just don't have to watch the barbecue.
@@lampad4549 sure. My issue with having a platform like that is that it creates traction.
And also, we still had free speech before social media
@@lampad4549 the issue is people can say what ever they want, but to speak to the masses it was regulated in the past there was a barrier to entry. Money, a job, a press, people had less free time etc
It's not the oestrogen hormone that causes cramps-it's the literal contraction of the uterus that is triggered by the release of prostaglandin when the lining is ready to shed. I take birth control pills (which are also a synthetic estrogen) but get less cramping because the pills inhibit the release of prostaglandin and therefore don't trigger the uterine contractions.
Also the uterus can't contract if there isn't one lol. They are arguing a fantasy. As a Biochemistry student this stuff is just hilarious to me.
if only people had the slightest idea on what they were talking about before they preach literal nonsense
@@Mulmgott Biomed student here, completely agree. It's infuriating to hear people argue for this bullshit, and insulting as someone who has awful cramps.
Excess Oestrogen production occuring in males is already a known phenomenon and leads to a totally different kind of outcome in males. Specifically, one of the most prominent is painful swelling of breasts called Gynaecomastia.
Others are erectile dysfunction and infertility which arent necessarily concerns that matter to trans women.
They may experience delayed puberty which they desire, however it also can lead to short stature and low libido which may not be desirable.
Documented occurrence of cramps in these cases are not existent.
Males with higher oestrogen and who don't have a uterus don't experience those cramps.
It's not wrong to narrow down the cause of these cramps and tie down the occurrence to the presence of a uterus.
Furthermore, there is certainly evidence of medications and procedures specifically targeted towards the uterus to alleviate cramps.
I feel like Destiny didn't need to go to deep into menstrual cycles to prove his point.
so you're a birthing-person
2 men debating whether other men can get period pains.
This was a pain, period.
Two men debating
The power of periods
Common sense has died 😢
@@GeneralBlorpa woman is a woman who identifies as a woman
As a straight white cis male, this dude gave me period pains.
I hate when people who have no knowledge in biology argue about biology.
@@BritJim sex is binary tho
99% of people debating trans issues
@@BritJim human biologists have stated it isn't binary
@@Millie-Millionthere is exactly zero respected biologists who woul say sex is not binary.
That's how I feel when Marxists talk about anything to do with history.
Those aren't period cramps, those are delusion pains and hemorrhoids. How did we allow people to get this far gone?
Because we don’t give them pushback and just overly confirm their comments, when we try to push back on it we get dog piled on and called all sorts. This has gone too far and people have buried their head in the sand too much to do anything about it now.
@@GeekyC That is how cancel culture work. You give pushback in real life you are out of job.
But have you considered the fact that the body Is complicated?
Easy, when liberals said men can be women and women can be men. With that kind of world view, what else would you expect to happen?
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 yep true. The amount of people who were drs or professors or teachers here in the U.K. and pushed back on this and lost their job is high. It’s going to far !
As a woman with endometriosis I wish they could experience what I do every month at least once, maybe they wouldn't be asking for these period cramps so desperately
Yep.
Right? When you could literally bite through wood, or climb the walls, because the pain is so excruciating. When you have to have an operation to “scrape away the thickening” inside your womb, as it’s “overly vascular”! I lived with Adenomyosis for decades. It’s similar to endometriosis, but it affects the inside of the womb. To put it very simply.
I would be in so much pain. Sex was incredibly painful. Life…was painful. I am in menopause now, so I no longer menstruate. It has been a relief…. But then you have the symptoms of menopause lol. Which took me by surprise. Anxiety, depression, agoraphobia even. But, no more pain ❤
@@pommiebears I feel you! With many missed diagnosis, all the "we all go through it" and even the "maybe you just don't love your partner and don't want to have sex with him" I finally received diagnosis. But being 25, not knowing if I will be able to have kids and currently being on farmacological menopause, it's tough. My best wishes go to you, I hope soon you will be able to live your life without pain and anxiety!
No one is asking for them Karen. They are just talking about their lived experiences and you're calling them crazy for that. Good thing no one's ever done that to cis women 🙄
@@ThereAlright are you literally complaining about your lived experiences being dismissed while doing the same to trans women? 😂😂😂 Giiiiiiiiiiirrrrlllll
People with hysterectomies don’t get periods so they definitely don’t get period cramps 🤦🏼♀️ unless they got a partial, which for Destiny saying he doesn’t know much about the female reproductive system, I am super impressed that he even knew there were such things as partial hysterectomies. Even then it’s not actually menstruating sometimes. It depends on if you get just the uterus, some of the uterus, the ovaries, whatever removed…I think trans women who think they are having periods are experiencing indigestion, gas, and a highly volatile need for attention. Period…😁
He just does research on the topics before he debates people, that’s part of being prepared. The issue is that his opposition usually has hard set beliefs that make them refuse to do research unless it confirms their bias. I disagree with Destiny on a lot, but I do really like that his positions are malleable based on the information he finds.
I can't imagine how mentally ill I'd have to be to get a pain in my tummy and decide "ooh it must be that thing I could've never possibly experienced even in an abstract manner"
Once again the demand / outcry regarding social injustice, racism or Misogyny is always much higher than the supply 😢
The fact that destiny gave this guy 35 minutes of his time is a testament to his patience.
The guy is right tho
I could’ve only advised he would ask his doctor. Let them deal with it as they get paid for it.
@astridbunny Nothing he said is correct. Males can not have periods.
@@DumbAsh00 🤡
Why? Just because you choose to attempt to feel cool by insulting people who disagree with you doesn't make it the right thing. Educating people is better but you aren't smart enough to do that 😢
There's no way these people are serious, they're just virtue signaling and trying to posture themselves as being morally superior or a better ally. I refuse to believe they are serious.
thats how i feel about destiny or anyone else thats with that genderbender stuff
There's always true believers
I feel the same way with the 4000 genders/non-binaries and the 6million sexualities. Do you, live your life and be happy, but I'm not calling you a flubber-gender.
Never underestimate cognitive dissonance
@@Zer0Spinn underrated comment. Flubber gender killed me 😂😂😂
My gf had a total hysterectomy and shortly after in the recovery stage she was experiencing what the doctor phrases as "phantom pains" like uterus cramps. She said it was comparable but further along they went away.
I’m sure residual pain is felt, but it went away, yes? Of course it did.
Yes it did but the phenomenon is that the healing process was done as examed by doctors and the pain from post op had diminished BUT she would experience, and still does sometimes randomly, pains that feel exactly to her that was almost identical to her uterus cramping. There's nothing there to cramp or to cause these sensations. It's a real thing and it's very odd but real
@@ArsonPanda909She is delusional as well
@@ArsonPanda909 Yeah and they are phantom pains, same as you would lose a finger that has been hurting your whole life. Your body is used to it still being there and hurting at times, it's purely psychological. But this effect can not be reversed, you can't experience phantom pains over something you have never had in the first place. It's not the same thing.
@@Strawn149 No, that’s actually very common in people who have lost a limb or body part. Look it up. You can find videos of amputees feeling genuine pain from their lack of limb.
It’s a psychological phenomenon and is not at all delusional.
As a woman, It appals me how some men would have strong opinions like that with 0 knowledge about women anatomy! 😢
That's for every gender and race
As a man with good knowledge of female anatomy, it’s even more annoying to know more about female bodies than most women lmao
@helloOki it’s not a conversation/learning situation here tho, it’s the strong set opinion when there is no knowledge to back it that irritates me.
@@jihanebyaz9738 Religion in a sentence
@Oki "learning?"
I think one of the trans communities biggest problems working against them is their representation.
What? People saying that their designer grade downstairs hallways are better than the naturally born is not putting their best foot forward? Dylan isn't exactly living the lived experience of any ciswomen? Seems that the representation is entirely on purpose.
@@NicheGreens Well when you add a new sink to a room without plumbing and complain that your pipe is clogged...
@@MatthewMortensen1 then blame the neighbor for not being upset over your busted sink?
They will never be properly “represented”. The average person finds them either uncomfortable, or offensive because they’re stereotypically portraying themselves as something they aren’t. Which is why I think the whole non-binary phenomenon came into play, because it’s way to essentially ‘bypass’ that acceptance hurtle, because now you can claim gender is a spectrum (another social construct honestly), and that stereotypes exhibited by this one transgender person are really for anyone to exhibit.
Really I find it hilarious the many manipulative hurdles humans will go through to accept nonsensical ideas into society, especially when it goes against literal biology…
For every one trans person who just wants to blend in as the opposite sex and be normal, there'll always be 1000 AGP people who transition just to express hostility and exert power over people.
Zherka showing up to troll him at the end was the icing on the cake.
He’s pissed me off with his nonsense the handful of times I’ve heard him come on so it was nice to hear him use his powers against someone else even more frustrating
Icing on the cake? It was the entire cake, good lord. I was crying laughing.
im a bit new to destiny and his orbiters but im so glad he was trolling LMFAOO
“I feel” “I feel” “ I feel” no one cares how you feel. Your feelings don’t determine reality. A huge thing to identify, whenever someone leads with “I feel” whatever follows is completely unfounded.
Lol listening to this person talk about these "issues" was irritating
Thank you, Destiny, for having the decency to call out this ridiculous BS for what it is.
I 100% feel if the left were more like destiny, we’d have much less conflict between the 2 sides.
Thats because even destiny can see some (not many) points of the right. Whereass the majority of the left will outright refuse to hear something the right is saying.
How can you get cramps in an organ you don’t have?
I also wonder if this person can get a headache having no brain. (I know headaches literally aren’t in the brain)
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You act like this would be the strangest thing the human body has ever done. The caller is right, the hormones could activate a reaction that makes a different muscle cramp. It's not that crazy of an idea
@@AyoT7 Even if you just accept that that's true, that doesn't make it a period. It's not period pains, not a period cramp, it's none of that.
@@AyoT7 if the muscles aren’t there that cause the cramping, you’re not having period cramps. It’s something else. Hormones could possibly cause cramping but it’s not period cramps. You need a uterus for period cramps. You need balls to have blue balls. You need tonsils to have tonsillitis. You need a stomach for stomach cramps.
Yes. The caller absolutely is wrong. A period cramp is a very specific thing. Attributing it to just hormones misses the entire phenomena that is a period cramp. They’re not the same thing.
If I have no arms and say my arms are cramping…am I having arm cramps? No. I’m not.
@@AyoT7 it can’t actively activate an organ that doesn’t exist in your body???
21:51 "It feels like you're so sympathetic around cis women but not trans women" No shit, it's the consideration of 51% of the population vs less than 1% of the population
I think Destiny navigated the first topic really well, but I think he could have asked something like what if a trans woman tweeted something like "I'm pregnant, I'm so happy!" Would the other guy still be arguing "Hey lets just wait on the science and the body is really weird and complicated!"
On the birthing person topic, if I understood Destiny's argument correctly, I think a good example to bring up would have been what happened at Evergreen College. Where it's one thing for black people to excuse themselves for the day in order to protest, but its a very different thing to demand white people not attend class on a certain day. Similarly, its one thing for a trans person to choose their own pronouns but quite another to start demanding other people change the words they use to describe themselves.
Some of these people simply argue for the arguments sake. Doesn't matter how wrong they know they are, all that matters is that they pretend the issue is nuanced & they muddy the waters as much as possible
I don’t think it’s that, more so it’s these people are desperate to white knight for a persecuted community at any cost. Logic be damned
CLOUT chasers man, worse than trolls and cancer combined
It's because the absolute surface level of the argument around trans people is "Male and Female people have some overlap in some ways" and that tiny amount of haziness has been stretched to frankly ridiculous degrees, to the point of people claiming since there's a little overlap gender is all made up and means nothing anyway, or thinking that the average woman can compete with the average man in sports fairly because "we're all just humans so it's all fair" when top olympic male athletes use equipment DOUBLE the weight of top female athletes and STILL smash their records by a mile.
Idk about that. Honestly I could see this exact comment written about Destiny by someone who's ideologically opposed to him.
We shouldn't be so quick to dismiss people. Especially when talking about complicated subjects. Clearly, it's dumb to think that trans women are having periods, but it's important to know how that thought manifests. How many people could counter that argument well before Destiny gave his take? Probably a lot, but still. That tweet had almost 100k upvotes. It's good to know why.
I'm more sympathetic to the birthing person's argument though. There are exceptions where it's useful, and there's a nuanced discussion to be had about the inclusion of trans women in women's spaces.
@@MrGargamel1198 I dont think societies need to twist themselves into a pretzel for extremely small minorities. See, in France, we had TV spot about eating 5 vegetables a day, and walking half a kilometer a day to avoid cardio vascular disease. Do you think they should add "unless you're allergic to vegetable and unless you have brittle bone diseases" ? Or should we expect that the people who are exception know they are exceptions ?
A trans man having blue balls is absurd to him but a trans woman having period cramps isn't. Makes no sense. Maybe it's because he's a dude talking about women's biology based on feelings.
Love the guy coming in at the end to prove why it's a bad idea to give unending "sympathy" to people that are delusional 😂
He literally ruined the whole video. Imagine being stuck with a brain that can only come to with a high enough IQ to barely bust in black Jack and trying to navigate any conversation
WhY iS bLaCk SuPrEmAcY BaD?!?!?! ArE yOu A CoLoNiZeR?!?!
"I hear what you're sayiiiiing, but I FEEL like I still desperately want to be an activist."
Well yeah, activism without feelings is just business.
Zherka trolling this kid at the end was GOLD 😂😂
Jesus christ, twitter warrior having a normal one
repent to God
why are people trying to make simple situations harder? it's bizarre
There’s a currency of of oppression. They get attention, validation, and to control others.
Mental gymnastics to try and prove something that isn't true
The real goals are very different, completely hidden in the background, but for them to be accomplished, these ridiculous points need to be "won" according to some of these activists. That's their mindset. It's a very cynical approach to bringing about change. Plus, psy-ops and true believers also get mixed in, people that actually believe in these narratives/act like they believe it, and introduce chaos.
Because they clearly never grew up poor w actual problems
There are many women like myself who have been overwhelmingly supportive of trans women all along, happy for them that they could join us (because being a woman is awesome ;)), who now feel very confused by the "period" cramps and "menstruation" thing. Anyone pushing this, trans or cis, whether they mean well or not, is actively harming the trans community by making them look insane. You don't have to have every single thing a biological female has. Stop it. That's point A.
Point B is that there is also a growing sense of betrayal among these same set of welcoming women, to varying degrees, about things like trans women athletes elbowing their way unfairly into professional women's sports before any inroads were even being made to address the bone and muscle density problems, with some then claiming as a response "well, guess you ladies need to step up your game, pussies," to these very same women athletes who did and do support them, but find this unfair (same thing with the activists who just want to get rid of women's sports. Um..what?).
Or things like refusing to acknowledge there is a huge problem with women's prisons when predators lie about being trans to be housed with women who they subsequently rape, and the response by many in the trans community was at first flat out denial that this was a thing, until the pregnancies, and then it was, "we'll just give all women prisoners birth control pills, pregnancy problem solved." Um..ok, the pregnancy situation solved, we guess, but what about the rapes..? Dead air. That's some cold shit, ngl.
Then it was birthing persons, or persons who menstruate (ironic since that is what is being desired now to the point of delusion), but not woman, a thing that means a great deal to so so many. The gender so earnestly wanted to be seen as now being reduced to an automaton thing. Trans women find it cringe when cis people reduce them to their body parts, yet how is this not the same thing.
All of this is a slap in the face to the women that wanted to happily build trans women up, since they are now seeing many of those very same trans women seemingly tearing them down.
Yet, if we voice concern over any of this we're transphobic.
Well, I'm not transphobic. In fact, we are the proud parents of two wonderful trans boys (and, as for the women's sports stuff, we are also the proud parents of two athlete daughters as well, our eldest a coach of a boys team, even, and they think it aucks to see the thing that brings them such joy thrown on the chopping block. If it's so irrelevant, why are you trying so hard to be in it?)
Point C is nclusivity is great, but if one were looking from the outside in, this wouldn't look like inclusivity, where we are all a part of something; this would look a group trying to be more powerful than another group. I think we're allowed to be salty about the sheer disrespect, but more than that it is so frustrating to not even being able to address any concern without being screamed a transphobe. And all from the silence is violence crowd. That's the galling rub too.
Well, aorry I'm not aorry for talking about it.
And standard disclaimer: I don't mean everyone believes this or acts this way, of course, and I don't mean you if this doesn't apply to you, of course. Promise.
Thinking that you have 2 trans children puts you on the same level as someone who thinks a mtf trans person can have a period, you're just as insane as they are
Beautifully written and I agree 100% with you.
@@giselle_kvm Thank you for saying so! Very frustrating situation we are all in, for sure
I agree completely
@@BriannaHall-ql6ni :) ✌️👍
He lost the plot when he started to actually engage with Zerka
The second he was asked "Is it okay for a white person to say they only wanna fuck white people" the answer SHOULD have been YES. There's nothing wrong with that, if that's their preference that's their preference.
That's one of my biggest problems with idealogs like this, the hypocrisy. If you want to be taken seriously you have to have conviction with regards to your beliefs. Everyone should be held to the same standards, and allowed the same freedoms.
If you believe group of people should be allowed to self-segregate, then it should be okay for ALL groups to do the same. If you think self-segregation is bad for one group, then it should be bad for all groups.
Hypocrisy is a sign that you either, don't truly believe in what you're saying, or what you say you believe is fundementally flawed.
When my period started at age 12 the cramps were so bad that I had to lie in bed with heavy books on my stomach to try to get relief. There was no medication available at the time (1970's). I'm now 52 and my periods are so long and heavy, because I'm entering menopause,that I've had a Mirena inserted to stop the flow. Men don't know what the hell a period is and what women suffer from our entire adult lives. Whatever "pain" they are getting is because they are getting negative side effects from taking estrogen, which is not a male's natural hormone, so it makes their intestines contract. They dont have any of the other hormones that are needed for a cycle (LH = lutenising hormone..progesterone...FSH = follicle stimulating hormone). They don't know what period pain even is. Trans = "fake". Trans woman = fake woman.
Love how caught he acted when destiny questioned him on studying blue balls. From what I’ve seen, no one is acting in this way towards trans men, it seems distinct to trans women. This is just another form of patriarchy.
How is it patriarchy to say a person who has never had a uterus has never had a period?
People arent acting this way towards trans men because trans men arent saying this retarded shit
@@nickchivers9029 I believe they're saying that the ppl saying they're having periods are practicing patriarchy because trans men aren't hollering about having male issues like blue balls but trans women are all in arms saying they know exactly how period cramps are because of hormones... Though they don't have the required body parts to actually know what they're talking about but everyone who opposes that thought are wrong 🤦🏿♀️. This is insane
I cant believe your conclusion was “patriarchy” HOLY…..what about mental disorder? Or maybe delusion?? Men can never catch a break, even being the first ones to stand up for women…
Someone ate my doughnut before I woke up today, could've been the patriarchy too. You just never know.
I love it when Zerka is allowed to interrupt a good and respectful conversation with nonsense for no reason.
The test for whether Destiny finds a conversation interesting/fruitful is whether he threatens to ban Zerka for speaking.
This wasn’t a good conversation. This guy was insane.
What Zerka was saying was much more reasonable than the other guy
It might have been good and respectful, but I don’t think it was very interesting
It was a nice breather and was hilarious
It getting increasingly harder to be pro trans when shit like this is going on.
Nah not really, if you abandon your beliefs because other people have vaguely similar ones that are retarded, you allow them to make you a retard as well.
For real, I can feel myself sliding right as the years go by.
@@Rat-King27 the woke insanity will keep me on the right for awhile. It truly feels like we’ve went backwards in the past 4-5 years and there’s no end in sight
Just remember there are genuinely average humans out there who are trans and desperately want to just exist. It's the only thing keeping me on the rails lmao
I have never recognized the alphabet mafia as a serious organization representative of anything. They're literally just crazy people from Twitter pretending to represent and speak for a big group of people. I think all activists should always be ignored and laughed at because they only represent the extremist position. And in a world that mase sense the extremists would be shamed, marginalized and ridiculed. Unfortunately Twitter gives them importance and makes them feel like their psychotic feelings are justified.
People like this need to be jailed. No joke they are destroying our society. Confusing kids and young adults. I hate this person that destiny is talking to I hate them
I think I'm starting to understand why Ana Kasparian became so disillusioned with the online left.
I love how the trans community is requesting to have their chosen identities respected, but when women request to have their woman identity respected we're not being "inclusive". No, I'm respecting your preferences don't ask to disrespect mine and then get mad when I say no.
I swear I've seen this same comment 10 years ago comming from a guy and directed towards feminists. Oh, how the turn tables.
It’s almost like they know who the males are and who the females are and treat us accordingly. Kinda transphobic of them…
Trans ppl are very much on your side. Maybe not the men who speak for us but again they're not us.
@@LalaWatches I have to keep reminding myself this over and over because there are SO many bad actors speaking for the trans community. It’s a major problem but I have no clue how to combat it without being labeled a transphobe.
What trans person is telling women they cant be women? Where do you freaks even get these strawmen
As a white man, I feel seen by Zherka calling us ”Starcraft losers”.
He really seems to have sympathy for our plight ❤
@3:57 “I don’t think that any transwomen that say that they are having periods would say that they are having menstruation..”. Dude. A period IS menstruation. Menstruation IS a period. If you don’t get your period (i.e., menstruate), you check if you are pregnant. Symptoms of abdominal pain and irritability could be caused by anything from Crohn’s disease to eating a bad taco, and those symptoms alone do not a period make. Trans women do NOT get periods, because they can’t.
Plus, I’m menopausal and on HRT-just like transwomen-and I do not experience period cramps like I used to. Hmmm..
When I hear "I feel" at the beginning to every statement this person makes I can't listen to what they have to say. It becomes really annoying because if you refuse the logical part of their argument they see it as you invalidating their feeling. So if you disagree, you're a disgusting person. They force a dynamic where the person they talk to can only be "good" or "bad". That's not a way to have a conversation with someone... :/
I dont care about your feelings
This is actually an interesting thing to observe. Many people preface statements with "I feel" or "I think". And researchers believe that women are more likely to use "I feel" statements. Therefore, men who say "I feel" instead of "I think" are BETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I'd just tell them that I feel like they are an idiot and end the conversation because they are clearly not equipped to handle it.
10:23 man is really saying "Fuck Common sense, me and my homies have mental illness"
I don’t understand why people are so eager to give trans women period cramps.
Because when people said "give an inch, they'll take a mile" they actually meant "take every single solitary thing bar exactly none." Right down to the period cramps.
It pushes the idea that trans women and cis women have no biological difference and are the same thing which is what the crazy online people want.
Trying to enforce so much gender inclusive language is damaging the cause. People are turning against LGBT in droves, pick your battles.
I'm honestly surprised that this even needs to be debated, I was on Twitter the other day giving information from the NHS and they were still claiming that it is a period. There is some clear delusion with some people and it needs to be resolved asap.
It’s not going it be, it’s getting worse and will continue to get worse, this is what happens when you feed into the delusions of schzios and give them the keys to the castle
It's called wanting attention.
Its literally just IBS lmao estrogen has a huge impact on IBS symptoms and if you didn't really experience them before, I guess your mind can assume its period cramps. IBS can be really painful and it sucks, but it ain't periods, nor do I imagine its as painful as shedding and bleeding out your uterine lining.
I think Zherka is officially my favorite Destiny orbiter. He is so funny and creates so much chaos whenever he comes in stream
Finally someone from dgg understands
Zherka is Haz from the good timeline
who connected ?
whats u my n**gas !
LMAO
Bro was funny as hell in this stream
Was he being serious in anyway
Or was he just making him trip up on his bullshit
the real crime is that nobody is talking about my period cramps as a cis man
😆 poor thing
That pain in my insides right before my wife gets her period is real.
As a former competitive bodybuilder and current trt user, most exogenous hormones are scheduled or administered with the goal of having the least amount of hormone fluctuations as possible. Mostly because, for males, when testosterone goes up, the estrogen tends to as well. Basically side effects tend to be worse with bigger spikes in hormones. Big spikes in either testosterone or estrogen can be bad, so I highly doubt these individuals are experiencing massive spikes, unless they’re not using a doctor and taking it upon themselves. Regardless, even with spikes, you’re not going to have “pain” coming from an organ that isn’t there…
Smells like DIY HRT
Im not a fan of Zherka, nor do i know if he actually believes what he was saying but damn he trolled the hell outa that guy and it was mad funny...
He is very obviously trolling for holes in this dudes argument which well, he isnt making it hard proving the said dude is a hypcorite
Destiny "I don't need a study to confirm if they have blue balls or not" wow stunning and brave
It's hard not to cringe every time I hear "I feel" in a discussion or debate. It's objective vs subjective.
As a father to three daughters, and someone who’s always struggled with weight and health related to such, I can 100% tell you that caring about women’s health is on the minds of dad’s who care about their daughters. And since men are needed to make babies, I would argue that the number of good men who are concerned with women’s health, are not as small as you may think. After all, don’t you care about the health of your son? And why is that? Certainly it’s not because of your reasoning…
Listening to trans people and trans activists is just solidifying every single anti-trans thought and sentiment I've ever had. Love to see it.
The most damaging people to the trans movement are trans people themselves
Ye, I had someone say that to be less transphobic I need to see more trans people in debates, but the more I've seen arguments from and for then, the more transphobic I'm becoming.
@@Rat-King27 transgednerism should have stayed a medical condition, and never become an ideology
@@Rat-King27 Agreed. "If the truth will kill them, let them die."
The dude is like "let's do a research whether a trans woman has a uterus and ovaries" :-DDD
Honestly, trans people who are not born with them and might actually have them transplanted would likely be in so much more pain than they can be now. A transition almost think it would need a lifetime supply of Vicodin's or stronger. the inside out quilted pee pee is already in pain most of the time because the body doesn't recognize it as anything but scar tissue to be fixed. And God forbid they put those other things in a biological male body, They would die and the trans person would literally rot on the inside because the likelihood of the body seeing them as like cancerous is extremely high.
No he was more like "let's do a research what can cause trans women to feel a similiar pain as to period cramps." Sounds decent reasable to me.
@@HolyNarz sure but it still won't be a period.
@@pavelh756 of course not. But I understand calling it that, when it is really the case that it is based on the hormones and comes once a month and it feels like somehting is cramping in that area. I would call that "period cramp" too I guess. That's just a semantic argument then
@@HolyNarz It’s a semantic argument sure but also it’s just unreasonable as a premise.
There’s no reason for hormones to cause that type of thing.
Is it possible that they have some kind of phantom pain ? Or some other type of psychologically induced pain ?
Sure. If they do though, calling them delusional (as in, the pain, not the people necessarily) is more than apt.
Is it possible that it is not a delusion but an actual effect of the hormones themselves ? Well not in any way close to period pains, and unlikely to begin with. Combine that with the cesspool from which it emanates, twitter, and « delusion » seems like the more reasonable answer every time.
People aren't materializing period cramps. Some people probably experience some intense metabolic changes through HRT and get some form of cramps as a result. I don't see why people need for the cramps to be "period" cramps. These twitter people are actually convincing so many people that we are all like this and it's painful to watch.
Il be honest with you they are convincing a lot of people who used to be very sympathetic to trans people. I know people in real life who used to be on the left and supported the trans movement but then these people started popping up acting crazy and they gave up because in their words “it feels like they are forcing themselves into our spaces and erasing us as women”. I’ve spoken to plenty of transwomen who strongly are against people like this. But when they try and speak up they are bullied and kicked out of the communities they were a part of it. It’s like a toxic cult honestly.
They feel better if they're experiencing something only a born woman can experience.
@@anubis7457 Look, at the end of the day if another trans person gets comfort from telling themselves that 's what their cramps are then fine, go for it. But once they start advocating that the world accepts that ,and they start speaking for all of us and making the world think that's how we all think ....then I think they also got to accept that the world, including other trans people, will disagree with them. There are trans people and trans activists calling other trans people transphobic for disagreeing with them......that's actually insane.
Cramps are caused by the overuse of muscle and the lack of electrolytes. Not hormones. If they are experiencing cramps in their lower stomach area, it's more likely to be from dick. Dudes to take dick often get cramps in their lower abdominal muscles along with the more inner muscles in their body.
@@repinaboxx Idk why you’re saying “Look” as if I’m disagreeing with you lol.
"Until there is research, just accept their absurd assertion!" - Big Brain
All that crap is coming from Academia.
It's not Twitter or Tumbler who is pushing this stuff into Academia.
It's the Academia generates this lunacy & Twitter spreds it around.
The Academia have been using this language for a decade now - "birthing process", "birthing people", "birthing sisters"....
It's like meta for them.
@@bestdjaf7499 In general, I agree. However, I think Twitter users take to concepts academia is just floating around like zealots to a religion. They take sort of soft academic concepts and want to implement them as policy (even if academia at large wasn't suggesting that). It is sort of a viscous cycle as academics are seeing a chunk of the public take to their ideas with zeal.
@@Telthar
I understand your position, but it's absurd to argue that Twitter really involved in the Government policy decisions.
The government uses Academia to justify the policies.
"Biden Admin Replaces 'Mothers' With 'Birthing People' in Maternal Health Guidance".
They didn't do that b/c they have heard this on Twitter.
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Ok, Twitter might have a bit of influence, but it would be ridiculous to assert that the government makes decisions based on some idiotic ideas on Twitter.
I think this could have been easily resolved if they just defined "period cramps" first. Period cramps or "dysmenorrhea" is defined as pain resulting from prostaglandin induced contractions of the uterus. That is clearly something that can not happen without a uterus.
What this guy was getting at would be psychosomatic pain, which is absolutely real and can even cause verifiable muscle cramps but still a different thing.
Seriously, this is an r/badwomensanatomy moment. They both haven't done enough research on this topic. Destiny literally says he doesn't know anything about this at 6:10. Why are they debating this???
Destiny did explain that
@@blazinpyromaniac I don't believe he did, got a timestamp?
@@iz2333 6:17
@@blazinpyromaniac Ah then we're not thinking of the same thing. Double timing a half explanation mid argument has a very different effect than properly establishing a definition and then making the argument on that basis.
As a thing here. The women in my wife’s family experience pcos, endometriosis pain, painful periods, etc. the actual treatment once you get old enough (in a doctors judgment) is a hysterectomy…
Constipation isn't a period cramp 🤦♂️
“What’s your problem with Malcolm X” fucking killed me 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣I can’t believe how funny that was to me
My dude didn't think for two seconds on these subjects, and proceeded to confront destiny with the confidence of an anime villain. I guess similar to that villain, he got folded.
Most women are not happy with what's happening to our language and rights. We are too scared to speak up as we get labelled transphobe and worse. I spoke out and had an Internet pile on on my account from radical trans activists that affected my real life badly. They even attacked my family.
People can be whoever you want you be, but don't label me. I'm in my 40s and I rebelled against all labels in my youth, now every 5 seconds I'm labelled with another name. It's insane.
Acceptance Is here, we don't need to re write every law and dictionary to accept you.
I’m in my 40’s too. Next, these people will say they’re suffering from menopause. Having our very womanhood stripped away, and used for victim status by biological males, is incredibly sad.
I am incredibly angry about the prefix we’re given too. Cis, means nothing to me, nothing. I need no prefix to being a woman. They’re called trans women, because they weren’t born women. We were, so we don’t need the prefix. I refuse to respond to Cis.
Oh…and, you are only being called names, because you have hit a raw nerve. Remember, these people will attack you, accuse you of hate. Because, truth sounds like hate, when you hate the truth. These people hate the truth. Get used to being called a phobe. Don’t let it hurt your feelings. These people use it to shut you up, which allows them to scream louder. 🌹
24:52 "I do feel like if someone thinks they're not being 'seen' because they call it a birthing area instead of a maternity ward, I would say that person is being a little ridiculous."
But if it was the other way around, and the person felt they weren't being 'seen' because it's being called a maternity ward instead of a birthing area, that person is apparently not ridiculous, and in fact, this guy thinks we should bend over backwards to accommodate them. Despite it being literally the EXACT same thing with the names swapped.
And then they wonder why women aren't very receptive to much trans stuff. Because there's guys like this walking into womens spaces and going "Wow, this needs a rename, ladies. How non-inclusive of you. With a name like this, how am I going to get all my assigned male friends in here? What's an assigned male gotta do to get into a woman's changing room?"
Cramping in trans women is either gastrointestinal related cramps being falsely associated with period cramps.
Or
They're experiencing purely psychosomatic pain. Which also inherently has issues as they've never experienced menstrual cramps to compare the experienced cramping to.
17:10 No, no, no - we are NOT ok with all these changes and forced inclusion
Simply put, more women need to start speaking up about this. There’s only a tiny number that are speaking out now and it makes it look as if most women are perfectly fine with biological men coming into their bathroom or changing room
@@brianmeen2158we speak up, and we get assaulted, and called Nazis. Even by the mainstream media.
As a black man I'm glad John came in and caught this guy off guard.
The guy who came in was being just as ridiculous. It’s funny to listen to but my goodness the echochambers of the internet have caused some fascinatingly disconnected worldviews.
@flim7373 I felt like John was more ridiculous Lol. But he stopped the other guy in his tracks and made him stumble because of how ridiculous he was.
@@umejiaku6 is the pro-ethnonationalism guy serious, or trying to make a point regarding John’s values?
@flim7373 I'm gonna be honest. I don't recall the other guy being an ethnonationalist when I watched this video. If you're asking if John was being proethnonationalist to probe the other guy about his views then I'd say yes. But he also says a bunch of crazy shit 😆
@@umejiaku6 oooooh that’s John…apologies.
THANK YOU!!! FOR calling his delusion out.. it is absurd he thinks the trans have periods.. Its an insult to women. I myself suffer from chronic pain from cramps due to ENDOMETRIOSIS, which is like pms on steroids, I cant begin to explain how bad it is and how much it hurts. just awful horrible cramps, bloating, backaches, headaches, nausea, irritability, my body goes through such painful cramps the worst kind to have. thank you for being on our side and speaking out, you're awesome!! and I agree with everything you said. "FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT FEELINGS!"
As a man I share your pain ;)
"you don't actually love black people. you just want to mix them." Zherka's always been fun but i'm sold now.
So one of the fun parts many women deal with during pms/periods, (also with PCOS) that we seldom talk about is stomach issues….diarrhea, gas/severe bloating. Messing with your hormones can cause major digestive issues that lead to lower intestinal cramping.
I did not expect that ending when the other guy came in. Glorious chaos!
Zherka going from trolling to making actually decent points was surprising development, indeed...
Okay I guess I missed those good points, because to me this discussion became uninteresting af as soon as he joined the call.
@@dudemate3363 it was moreso that he used mockery to make a point, and they mostly landed imo.
@@dudemate3363 "Okay I guess I missed those good points" Its fine.
This person was actually okay in this conversation. Even though it’s an insane idea, they seemed willing to at least engage. They could have been way way worse. We’ve all seen what that looks like.
i don't think it's possible to be worse than this guy. he's sooo ignorant
It’s a shame the bar is that low. We shouldn’t be celebrating engagement, it should be normal.
True. Zherka ruined it. I don't mind if they're wacky, as long as they're not closed to reason.
I agree. They were only pushing for a concession of "don't be sure about something that hasn't been studied" which is the go-to for most issues. The problem is that it's "most" issues, not "all".
@@xYiazmatx It's not really a reasonable point though. The issue here isn't whether transwomen can have certain symptoms, the issue is that symptoms are not unique to specific diseases but the cause is what is unique, and that is how the label is determined. The symptoms associated with PMS are not unique to PMS. They are only labeled as PMS because they are caused by the drop in hormones, specifically progesterone, that trigger menstruation. Transwomen do not menstruate nor do they have any of the hormone signals that cause menstruation therefore their symptoms obviously cannot be labeled as "pre-menstrual syndrome" nor as anything else period related. They may very well have aches, pains, cramps (obviously not menstrual cramps since those are in the uterus... but they may have bowel cramps. who knows) but appropriating the language of periods to describe those things is incorrect, off-putting and in some cases delusional.
Let me also say, when you actually learn about the female hormone cycle people like the guy arguing begin to sound particularly ridiculous and dishonest. He claims to just support more scientific inquiry into the issue, but hasn't even done the bare minimum of research to realize that chanting "but estrogen supplements" makes zero sense in reference to PMS. PMS is likely caused by LOW estrogen levels relative to progesterone levels. Estrogen is actually well known to have a mood stabilizing effect & can even reduce psychotic symptoms, so it makes no sense that a transwoman taking estrogen would have mood disturbances simply due to estrogen. Progesterone has the opposite effect. This is why progesterone-based birth control can cause some women to experience depression. Before the period, both estrogen & progesterone levels suddenly drop and during a brief period may be poorly balanced in a way that makes progesterone dominant. Women with hormonal imbalances also tend to have more severe and longer lasting as well because of this. But, again, people on the other side of this argument think that just going "estrogen estrogen estrogen" means something.
“Martin Luther Cuck”
I came for Destiny, stayed for Zherka
Whoever bro was at the end is my God damned hero 😂😂😂😂😂😂 fuckin troll of the universe.
It's crazy how people can't be fine with others just being ok with Trans people exisisting and having rights, and instead insist on everyone being perfectly OK with changing language to appease them.
I'm finding it harder and harder to not regard a sizable percentage of the trans movement as completely insane. Utterly delusional.
“I just feel like” yes that’s what is the problem. Feelings aren’t facts. I’m on the implant and I don’t get periods for up to 3-5 months but when I do get my period it’s strong. You need a womb to shred from in order for you to get these cramps. I’m a dumb person but even I know this basic stuff. We are giving into to people delusions and over confirming a fantasy that is going too far. When you push back on it your dog piled on and silenced and called all sorts of the hot buzz names. So glad I deleted Twitter 2 years ago these people on Twitter are crazy.
I haven't watched the video yet but you don't have any relevant facts either until you look into these particular cases. It is possible that the tissues that would have become a uterus remain in the body much like male nipples, and a female hormone wash is causing them to develop just like how men can get gynecomastia. They wouldn't be period cramps exactly but coloquially I think we know what they're talking about. It's worth investigating for actual medical professionals to gain an actual medical diagnosis. Absent such investigation, any reaction other than 'lets see' is also more based on feels than reals.
@zer0nix So God is real, and you can't show any research that he isn't.
You're doing a really good job of making me think that the trans agender is a religious cult.
@@zer0nix Just speculation based on what I know about other parts of the differentiation of the genitals, but I highly suspect the parts that become the uterus in a woman are much lower in a man, so the pain would not be in the stomach.
Well to the postmodern left, yes feelings are preferable to hate facts. They're trying to claim that 2+2=5 if you feel like 2 has a value of 2.5. That's the core fundamental and failure the woke progressive left. The "Feelings over facts" mentra stems from their belief in moral relativity, their rejection of objective reality and grand narratives which they see as problematic, racist, sexist or transphobic. Every science upholds white supremacy if you view everything through CRT lens, and it's no different if you look at everything with gender theory lens.
Hint: its NOT a period. It will NEVER be a period. They dont need menstrual products. EVER It's just insulting to women to suggest otherwise
my mom has her uterus remove because of a tumor (no, not kiddin), and she doesnt have any menstruation, pms, cycles, period cramps, or whatever like she had before. obviously.
This is what happens when you curb accurate language for people's feelings. Now they are trying to argue that men can get period cramps ffs. 4:27 Sums up the trans movement perfectly.
God bless Zherka. He legit elevated this discussion from good to great
God this is why I seen a video of a trans women having a breakdown and being hysterical while trying to breast feed a baby and repeating "I'm a real mother" over and over again, it's cause of people like this guy.
Wife this has happened already?
@@yusuka4ev830 yes it has
@@yusuka4ev830 yes, seen it awhile ago
Wait what?!?!
Poor baby lol