My thoughts exactly. People play truck simulator and then the log off have a meal at their kitchen table, sleep in a nice big bed at a normal time. My brother played a house maintaining game for hundreds of hours and yet his parents still do his laundry
People chop down trees in Minecraft, one of the most popular video games of all time, so logically we can infer a giant portion of the population would love to become lumberjacks. Clicking a mouse a few times is labor equivalent to swinging an axe for hours in the hot sun
@Delete reddit They're probably not doing it for doing it's sake, You clean clothes... because you want clean clothes? There are hygiene reasons for doing it too. The overwhelming majority of people who do laundry don't like doing laundry.
"rapers are job creators! Think about the whole rape kit market that they are responsible for making, along with boosting the business of therapists, hospitals, and attorneys. All while occupying the police's time, which we know they'd spend terrorizing black people for fun if they weren't hunting you down."
The idea that because people play a video game in the comfort of their home where they can pause or turn it off at anytime means that they would be willing to do the actual job is insane.
Yeah as a farmer this man's absolutely full of shit. He really thinks someone would do this line of work for fun?! Eh if he wants to have some fun I've got some shitty stalls that needs mucking. Oh and we are back at it at 3 am so don't get too comfy in that bed buddy!
It’s the blindingly stupid confidence that gets me. If he was making his case with at least some humility, I would just treat this as silly, but the fact that he thinks he’s fucking nailing it just kills my soul. This guy wrote out his script, took hours of his time to record it, then edited it for even more hours, and then hit upload and at no point did he think, “man, I’m r3tarded” ….amazing….
He's like this in every video. I made the mistake of watching one about idle/clicker games because at the time I was interested in them, and he basically goes "Yeah they're fun, but they're evil and waste of time. Why are they evil? Because capitalism." and I rolled my eyes so hard that my contact lenses are still back there to this day. He rails on adventure capitalist for ages because of it's microtransactions and keeps making claims about it that if you actually know the game, you'd know it actually had NO microtransactions when it was getting popular. They were added in significantly later for a mobile release. So he's big into making claims on things he doesn't actually know. Also he spends ages ragging on "You're paying real money and you're not even getting a physical thing!", immediately followed by "Anyway guys subscribe to my patreon". Also also, not to rag on this too much but I see it a hell of a lot, virtue signalling creators who at the end of their videos only ever recommend channels that are run by the most marginalized person they can find, nearly always trans. But if you point it out, people say "They're just recommending what content they like bro it's not virtue signalling". Look, if you recommend 100 channels you claim to like, and despite trans people being a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the population, 70% of your recommendations go towards trans people, there's definitely SOMETHING going on there that isn't picking a random creator you like. There's definitely some external influence going on to that choice. They'd call this out if a guy only ever recommended straight, white creators, but silence when they're only ever non-white and non-straight.
It's a strange place in tankie/super far-left land. I don't believe Thoughtslime believes that, but that area of the internet has a ton of people that think any argument, no matter how wrong or silly, is good if you can use it to convert people to your side. They're like the far-right, they'll happily lie to your face. It's hilarious how half a decade ago we were all memeing on people that thought the horseshoe-theory was real. It's 1000% real when it comes to tactics.
To be fair, economics can be both good and bad, based on their orientation. Steven Pinker, Thomas Sowell, and the greater part of Milton Friedman are sussing out ways to give the regular people the maximum screw, instead of using economic theory to figure out how the greatest benefit can be had for the society at large. Basically, our society went off the rails in the early 80's, with trickle down, and the rise of the Chicago school of economics, championed by Milton Friedman. You have to be a complete psychopath to take their view on econ. If your entire area of study is to figure out how to maximize profit at the expense of others, then the ultimate goal is destructive to society. That's my hot take.
@crassgop Already covered it in the other answer , but starvation is suffering _or_ death caused by lack of food, not just death, and what the fuck, of course there are statistics on deaths by starvation, as well as qualifiers that many of those deaths are comprised of the infirm, the elderly and the mentally ill. Like, seriously, for fuck's sake. "13,690 people starve to death in America per year. For every 1,000 people experiencing food insecurity, 0.37 die from starvation. In America, 37M people experience food insecurity every day (per the CDC)." There, literally the first fucking thing that comes up when you google "starvation deaths in America. Fucking hell.
@@RandroidPrimeGoogling it would show that there is no starvation in the US, there is "food insecurity", which means they have food, but MAYBE they could not have it at some hypothetical point. As a third worlder americans saying there's starvation in the US is immensely insulting.
Kind of ashamed to admit I have watched a whole Thought Slime video, but: He literally made a whole video analyzing the camaraderie between Minecrafter's in Minecraft servers who interacted in capitalistic ways but were still friends and basically came to the conclusion that it was because all of the resources in Minecraft were abundantly accessible to all people so that what capitalism there was didn't really matter, which is why we should do socialism. YOU DON'T SAY! So it is very likely that Thought Slime basically thinks that the only reason we can't just open up creative mode IRL and pull finished products out of the ether is because capitalists are hiding it from us, or something.
I manage a store and am pretty easy with shoplifters, saw the guy steal on camera and told him he can leave the stuff and never come back to the centre as his footage will be given to security without police involvement. He proceeded to be incensed and angry that I can get him banned from stealing from his favourite place... Said I discriminated by seeing him on camera and caused a scene, needless to say cops arrived and he became a saint while being arrested, such a coward but i couldn’t believe what I just witnessed.
Some people are willing to pretend to be a trucker in a videogame... okay... Therefore, the exact amount of truckers we need could be filled perfectly with no extra incentive despite real world downsides like being away from your family and friends for large periods of time, not to mention actual health and safety hazards. What a 10,000 IQ take!
It's like he doesn't realize when you really break things down how many shitty jobs there are in the world that are necessary and without good incentives no one would do it. Coal mining, oil rigs, farming, putting together every single fucking piece of equipment that goes into making those jobs work, etc.
@Chris Smith Because certain projects-such as creating a video game, are passion projects. Most people wouldn't do their jobs if they weren't being paid for it. Do you ever see people talking about communist utopias where you would get to choose what you would contribute to society and everyone's needs are fulfilled without market forces? Turns out everyone in the commune wants to be an artist and no one wants to be a trash collector, plumber, hazardous materials handler, electrical lineman, ect. I'm not coming over to your house to fix your toilet purely to satisfy my passion for plumbing, I need a profit motive.
@Chris Smith Nothing is created for free. Labor has a value regardless of whether it has been realized in remuneration or not. The operational cost of a computer is non-zero. The manufacturing cost of the hardware utilized in software development is non-zero. Nothing is free. Small brain thinking tells you that something is 'free'. Get some big brain.
@Chris Smith Right. We don't *need* corporations. However, not all software is available for free, or the ones which are available for free are not up to the standards of professionals. So a corporation taking money for a product while they employ people to make and maintain said product is the easiest way to fulfill the demand that free software can't fulfill.
Also 98% of the video games being produced would not be made if there was no money in it. Only an insignificantly small amount of games would be made by fans. And the large triple A games wouldn’t be made at all because no fan group could afford to do it. There is no fan made GTA 5 or God Of War Ragnorok alternative for example and there never will be. Fans don’t have the technology, the know how or the time and resources to make such a demanding game. Without large companies footing the bill for a return on investment those games would never exist.
“Hey guys, hobbyists in 2023 can make Nintendo’s better with today technology than Nintendo could 30 years ago when they designed and built them, soooo…..” Can you imagine essentially making that point and thinking you are making a point about how great things would still be made for people to enjoy without an economic trade system?
Stores would just exist because we would need things. They would just sprout up from the ground and not expect money. Trucks would just drive to these places to give away what they had, gas companies would just give the trucks gas to get there, and the workers there would just work because the work needs to be done. It makes total sense.
@@ezragoldberg3132 but would people not need to work to create basic necessities or they would die? Like if the world collapsed tomorrow we would all start working to produce food at least
@@PeachesandCream225 We'd *start* sure, but without modern infrastructure, a ton of people would starve (on top of the people already starving, I mean).
I hate people like this. I work in a grocery store and I can tell you for certain the people stealing food are never grabbing bread; it's always steaks or crab legs. Until I see the day where a Homeless man is cracking open some crab legs or grilling a steak on the asphalt I wont change my mind on that.
Also idiots like him don't realize. When the company's shrink escalates to enough of a high percentage they start cutting cost to make up those profit margin loss. Meaning, they cut the hours of the hourly associates who are just trying to make ends meat. That counters out his "That harms starts to hurt regular people," unless he's insinuating retail workers aren't regular people.
Also just because it's justified to shoplift if you're literally going to starve otherwise shouldn't make shoplifting justified in every other instance. It's a little bit like saying that killing Hitler is okay and then proceeding to say that murder is actually always okay.
I listened to all the Witcher books while playing Euro Truck Simulator for 1 or 2 hours a day, so of course I'd spend my whole day inside a truck, and sleep in truck stops, and take methamphetamines to stay awake. It just makes sense
When I get bored of truck simulator, I turn it off. When I get bored of real trucking I realize I’m 1800 miles from home and I’ve got 3 more days of driving before I see my kids again
This is the type of guy who felt he was really smart because when drinking with his friends they would sometimes dabble in political discussions and he walked away feeling like he won every conversation because they would all eventually fall silent after hearing his ideas. They just didn't have the heart to tell him how dumb he sounds and so he started a RUclips channel.
Or because he's incessantly smug and acts like he's right all the time. Which means anyone who argues with him either concedes or continues long enough to knock his teeth out, and noone wants to risk the charges.
What pisses me off the most about this type of leftist is the condescending tone they use all the time. They are so confident in their wrongness, yet they talk like they just had to explain to you that clouds live in the sky abd not in the water.
Bro that's like a standard axiom of leftist thinking at this point. They'll say economics is a pseudoscience while praising Marx for literally being an economist, like the cognitive dissonance is concerning me pretty bad at this point, I don't know if these people are just grifters or dumb
Not surprising to see Destiny and his fans show much more hatred to leftist than rapist like Andrew Tate and Sneako. Maybe you're just a different flavor of conservative when you hate leftists more than evil right wingers?
It's always funny to me how the type of people to claim that others are dogwhistling, are the first ones to start dogwhistling their encouragement for you to commit crimes while they sit comfortably in their bedroom
I'm as left-wing as they come, but even I have no idea how people get to this point. It's always on this topic too, I have friends that trip over themselves to defend shoplifting, and I just don't get it; stealing can be morally justified in individual instances, yes, but you can't propagate the normalization of a behaviour that would so obviously lead to negative consequences. There are always exceptions to the rule, but laws exist for the standard, is it really so hard to comprehend?
I'm in the same boat as you. This is what happens when people surround themselves with theory bros that have to know idea how to apply their reading to modern times circle jerk each other on Twitter
@@dblock20 Thought Slime doesn’t know theory though. He doesn’t read it all. Unlearning Economics on the other hand is a socialist that knows economics better than majority of leftist video essayist. They don’t bother to learn the enemy.
It's funny because it's the same stupidity that right wingers have. They think in individuals instead of populations. Sure, if an individual steals, it's not that big of a deal. But, as you said, if stealing was normalized across the population, society would fucking collapse. It's like Ben Shapiro saying that the issue with poverty is that we are not individually giving to charity enough.
So you're pro child genital mutilation and pro crime. What's crazy is that you lefties act like you don't outright support this sort of criminal culture with your political beliefs. All we need to do is look at basically any major US city.
It's working backwards from a conclusion: corporations are bad, profit is theft, people should have anything they need provided for free, the system is broken so any means of acceleration towards the inevitable proletariat revolution is morally justified; ergo, shoplifting is good. Realpolitik is irrelevant.
In one of my accounting classes for businesses I remember learning that businesses do account for "expected losses" when analyzing a financial overview. Walmart expects for a certain average of goods to be stolen, broken, returned, etc. Now if more people started shoplifting than expected, they might just have to start looking at cost saving avenues...
Its apart of "shrink" I believe, which also accounts for damages. But yeah, that's usually > 5-7% of total revenue at most and that's usually factored into the cost of items/services. What's not accounted for is mass ransacking of a store. There's no way any company can lose the merchandise from a store a keep reasonable margins- even if the merchandise is insured. Insurance doesn't exactly pay out immediately, as anyone who has dealt with the bureaucracy of Insurance Companies even a little bit would attest to.
@@joeldykman7591 Additionally Insurance companies also have margins, If the number of payable claims exceeds their own projections they will have to raise their premiums.
Walmart has just announced store closings in Chicago, and they already closed every store in Portland because of overwhelming amounts of theft. Once theft gets into the double digit percentages, it can basically make the store no longer profitable to operate.
"Stealing from places like Walmart is morally righteous and fine." *Prices soar sky high due to theft, making it impossible for honest citizens to afford anything*
Pretty sure there was a target or whatever that closed down because it experienced so much theft that they just closed it down altogether. So now everybody loses
@@skylerblumenthal7003 Big businesses have been closing en-masse in San Francisco because they passed an enlightened law that nobody can be prosecuted for shoplifting under $1,000, and store security are now legally not allowed to enforce their own stores. There's videos of kids walking in with trash bags and just emptying the shelves into them while security stand there and helplessly watch.
What I find really weird is that the more shoplifting occurs, the more brick-and-mortar stores become unviable. I could imagine that would lead to more products ending up in warehouses and online commerce being the predominant means to buy things…which requires shipping and delivery. Out of the hands of one megacorp and into the next I suppose…
As corporations like Amazon consolidate the market, they squeeze smaller places out. And as these corporations exert more power over people’s lives, eventually the people get fed up and riot or steal from these stores. There’s an intersection here between wealth inequality, monopolies, and the destruction of small stores. It’s not that simple. Why are people this willing to steal or riot? Surely a safety net is missing. Democracy should not so easily push people to steal.
I was introduced to him by Sitch and Adam, and I thought they were calling him Thought Slime as a derisive nickname. Nope. Imagine unironically calling yourself something like that.
This is why you never give up in life guys. As long as this guy is having any success; clearly literally anything is possible in life. Say you dreamt of flying as a young child. You can literally fly; probably.
This honestly sounds like you’re telling people to off themselves. “Don’t give up but maybe you can fly” like bruh pulls a 180 and is like we better off without you so try flying.
@@Earthad23 it wouldn't, Communists are very much a "its good when we do it, its bad when it happens to us, because we fight for the cause", same way Hasan can be a greedy capitalist monster, he's fighting for the socialist cause, somehow, really Communism/Socalism is just a refuge for morally evil people to loophole themselves into feeling righteous about their impotent rage and hate they have inside, you see, ThoughtSlime here may SEEM like a awful human, but he's fighting for the "workers" or w/e.
I have had many different jobs, indoor, outdoor, retail, medical field, office joins, and software/programming. I have never heard of anyone being asked to clock out to use the bathroom. That is CRAZY if your employer does this. Definitely not a normal practice.
Yeah, even when I was working retail they never did that. It was only a thing for some people if you were creating a pattern and obviously using it to dink around.
I don't think he ever even had a shovel in those mitts.... but just cuz you wanna farm don't mean you can, I've been trying to get land and a good living from farming, pretty much impossible less you already got connects or big money, farming ain't quaint opps no more is 500000.000 dollar tractors that link with GPS to monitor crops and watering from satellite images.... but you can usually grow food nuff fo your kin and homies if you wanna and got the bug
@ravener The argument wasn’t that “everyone will keep doing their jobs for fun” it was that people will continue to work if the economy wasn’t organized around profit incentives because people need/want to spend their time doing work they find fulfilling. The example was that people will do things deemed as “work” without getting paid because they enjoy doing it, not that we should expect people to work for no compensation because “their jobs are fun”. It’s seeing beyond the myth that profit is the only possible motivation for companies to exist and that rather they can exist outside of that motivation as there’s an innate want/need for people to work and give their life purpose or to fill their time. People don’t only work because their company wants profit. It’s the same reason why people who got lucky in life and inherited or won a massive amount of wealth will continue working a normal job because it’s fulfilling to do so. They’re not motivated by making money so the company can profit but by the need to spend their days doing something they either enjoy or find rewarding in some way, even when all their monetary needs are met and them some outside of the job.
It’s like watching Les Miserables and thinking the moral of the story is you can only be a virtuous person if you steal bread. Baby’s first political thoughts.
I like when he essentially argues people would want to farm because they played a farm sim video game. As if they’re actually out in the field toiling away. 99.9% of people playing those games couldn’t lift a hay bale irl let alone want to lmao
@@No_OneV I'll even allow that a portion of the people are stealing also to benefit a few other people, but yes, there is no sustainable retail system where theft is commonplace.
Yeah I get shoplifting, but talking abt it is embarrassing. Taking the next step and arguing it's virtuous is even more wild 💀. I love asking employees to unlock the fucking deodorant. Maybe every store will just operate like an arcade full of vending machines, depending on machine upkeep cost it might be cheaper one day. Cool 😀
We live in a world where if we didn't take the time to explain the behavior we are looking for I swear almost everyone would be some psychopath rapist.
It's not wrong. At least in some cases. I really can't be assed to give a FUCK if somebody steals from walmart. I just don't encourage it because of the legal ramifications.
Exactly. Playing a game that simulates power washing is the same as physical labor of said action. Same with spending time away from your family as a trucker. Is this what he was implying?
The idea behind saying such blatantly false thing is that if they say it and signal that the rest of their group should say it then they'll get other people to start saying it too. Same thing with calling men who wear dresses women.
Wage theft is actually really easy, most clock systems run in 15 minute steps so if you clock-in at 8:01 it actually starts counting your hours from 8:15 so some of the early shift managers actually show up for opening the store a minute late on purpose (small business) or force people to clock out on bathroom breaks so if you clock out at 8:14 and clock back in at 8:16 you just missed 30 minutes in payments. This actually was the case in my first job (retail) and most of the older people that know how it worked would just take their breaks after they needed to use the restroom. Also bonusses is always a huge scam, moving the goalpost at the very last second or being exceptionally vague about percentages or distribution. I actually worked for a company that gave 17 workers about 800 dollars in annual bonus after we tripled profits (in the millions) and I quit on the spot. Especially companies with less than 25 employees are the absolute worst.
In thought slimes world, it'd be praxis to watch and distribute his patreon exclusive content without compensating him, considering he steals time from his audience without providing noticeable thought or labor into his videos.
In my experience the larger the corporation the better your compensation is. The largest companies I've worked for have stock options and bonus'. Smaller companies nickel and dime people cause their existence is on a thin line.
I know that as a fact. I got dicked around for years because I'm the type that was against corporations. Small business owners are sociopaths (at least the ones I worked for). Now I work for a big Corp and I make twice as much for half the work, full benefits and retirement. I wasted a lot of my life to live paycheck to paycheck. America just is built that way.
This is one billion percent true, ESPECIALLY in software engineering. If you work at a tiny 6 person company, they’ll pay you about a THIRD as much as Amazon or Apple will. I experienced this first hand. First job I ever had was at a small business. When I joined a startup, they doubled my salary. Then, when I joined a FAANG company, they increased it by 50%. Fuck small businesses.
12:04 I believe he was conflating wage theft with low wages. He started saying “they’ll pay you as little as they can get away with” and somehow ended up with wage theft. Just to be clear, if your contract says you’re getting paid $5 an hour, and you worked 40 hours and are paid for the 40 hours you worked… this is NOT wage theft.
technically if you're getting paid $5/hr that is wage theft since the federal minimum wage is $7.25, but the point being that thought slime is a remedial that doesn't know what it's talking about
These types always say that 100% of value is derived from labor so any for profit business is necessarily stealing wages. Which makes total sense because as we know complex and totally voluntary businesses are just always springing up spontaneously and certainly require no coordination or initial investment
@@jdarling5315 lol it’s not like you need funds, time, effort, legal permits, or infrastructure to start a business 😂 … These silly capitalist 🤦🏽♀️, don’t even know how businesses work.
When I was a homeless vet getting abused by the cops and random people on the street, shoplifting was a based way to keep myself fed and way to get back at the system that had its boot on my throat. I'm glad to say as of October of last year, I finally am no longer homeless. I think stealing for food is justified in extreme cases, like mine, but people shouldn't steal.
The idea behind saying such blatantly false thing is that if they say it and signal that the rest of their group should say it then they'll get other people to start saying it too. Same thing with calling men wearing dresses women.
@@pellelindtner3488 I remember now the crumbtuber in question was some moron named renegade cut stream was like half a year ago I’ll see if I can find it Edit: found it ruclips.net/user/liveTNVs1uZri08?feature=share
While I'm inclined to believe their takes tend to be relatively bad, I can understand that there are worse takes, like "stealing is OK, especially if everybody does it".
I don't have any statistics, but if you live in a poorer area, you see the things that are locked up at stores with anti-shoplifting measures, it's usually shampoo, detergent, baby formula, condoms and other day-to-day necessities.
I know people who’s rent are payed for by their parents and who still defend stealing to the skin of their teeth. I’ve never seen any of my below the poverty line friends do the same
Oh my God, the logical fallacies, it hurts, so many of them. Not shopping at a store that is in the red is not even close to the same thing stealing from them and causing harm to the store owners, employees, and costumers.
It's still discrimination whether you feel it's warranted. The worst part of politics is it gets normally good people to hate on otherwise normally good people we rely on everyday to run our society.. it takes a village.. not tribalism. The Capulets and Montagues.. no matter how they feel about each other.. look at what they crush to maintain their partisan status.
It's easy to not pay someone for overtime at a big company. The employee works the ot and the company doesn't approve it after. Has happened to me a dozen times.
Theres a lot of reasons why OT can be sidestepped. For instance, in my state, technically a person on salary is capable of earning OT, but the formal procedure required to do so usually dissuades people from going the process. Also, the specific policies of how time is tracked in companies could lead to denying OT. Not saying any of this is good, but if you learn the system, you can better game it.
As far as I know this is illegal where I live. Working overtime that wasn't approved can get you written up or talked to by a manager, but they have to pay it.b
“People like to play video games where they’re a long-haul trucker, so those people must actually want to be a long-haul trucker.” Thoughtslime literally doesn’t know the difference between these things
I’ve been cheated out of my overtime before. I was pretty young and I didn’t know much about anything and didn’t realize the company policy was to pay overtime to any employers who came in to work during time they were scheduled to be off. I thought I couldn’t get overtime because I was a part time employee but that actually didn’t matter. I had no idea and the first manager I had there neglected to tell me about that. After a while he was fired and the woman that replaced him was so much better. She was so nice and she had started working in my position and had worked her way to that so she really understood the people under her. She always made sure we paid the right amount and would also actually help out when it was busy or when I wasn’t feeling well. I have an autoimmune disease and she was very understanding about it. Having a good boss or manager really makes all the difference in the world. I do think it’s pretty shitty though how few rights most workers have here. Mississippi is a fire at will state meaning you can fire anyone at any time for any reason. It is still possible to get in trouble for explicit discrimination on things like race but overall it’s way easier to get away with screwing over workers with this system.
The idea of a giant store like Walmart was that they can buy materials in bulk and sell it at a cheap price.. if they hike up the price, shoppers would shop elsewhere.. it's not evil, it's basic free market trade agreement
No, but to be fair, the idea of paying your employees at or below the poverty line so they qualify for government programs IS actually evil. And you know they are getting tax breaks on top of it. So, while it's true that it's basic free market principles, it's also very destructive to society when it results in massive disparity in wealth accumulation. I'm still on the fence as to whether the free market principles are good, or if they just exist. I guess it's just another way of doing things, though it does tend to reward the absolute worst kinds of people. I'd prefer a system that tends more toward utilitarianism, at least more so than our current system. It won't be able to handle much more stress before it manifests in unrest.
@@gambitbeats2154 Lol, 11 dollars is below the poverty line at 22k a year. 12-13 is at or below it if you have a single dependent. How is that debunked? The GAO did a study that found that Walmart and McDonalds are the top two employers of individuals who qualify for medicaid and food benefits. All while the CEO got a 34 million package for the year. It's indefensible, and the data doesn't lie. You should look into it, before you jump straight to DEBUNKED!!!
@@joeymac4302 but giving ppl less then 40 hours a week because they can't afford to give out health and dental so they give workers a chance to get those benefits from taxes isn't evil, it's better the workers have the medical than not having it at all, it's just the way the system is set up.. in Canada they pay a 45% tax rate (imagine only getting 55% of your work check just to have free medical), at least the US we only pay 17%
@@gambitbeats2154 Everybody pays 45% in Canada? They don't have any form of progressive taxation? Also a fair question, what percent of people go into debt in Canada due to medical expenses? Is it higher or lower than the USA? You make Canada sound like a hellhole, but I'm not aware of people scrambling across the border to get here.
All it takes is tipping to make people understand wage theft is much bigger and worse problem than shoplifting. People wouldn't even think of stealing if they were paid fairly.
A few people make just enough to bet by and not feel the need to turn to crime but many others especially families where the kids feel left out so much compared to others they will feel inclined to steal and commit crimes. I think this take doesn’t make sense through an economic standpoint so it’s easy to dismiss but it definitely makes sense through a sociological lense.
@crassgop wdym there’s no consequences. There is consequences. It’s just people feel like they have to resort to do that regardless of the consequences.
While dissecting one of his videos, Adam over at Adam and Sitch show called Thought Slime 'Thought Crime' as a joke. And i feel it fits, because sometimes his hot takes are so stupid it feels like a felony to listen to them. Like, i feel like am reading from Anarchist Cookbook on steroids that shows you how to make explosives from soap.
@@kap1618Depends on where you live, but no. Crime has seen an increase, especially in Canada. There was over 5 shootings in Ontario alone during the passed few weeks! Look at your news and then compare it to other cities and countries, you'll be shocked. 🤷🏿♀️
16:50 Destiny thinks all jobs have the exact same method of clocking in and out as the places he worked. The computer we use to punch in can also be used to alter the times we punch in. So if I show up on time but forget to punch in, they can just change my time. Theoretically, they could do that to steal wages very easily. You have to track your hours yourself to know for sure that you aren't getting ripped off.
"You're strawmanning, we don't think mass looting is good" This guy: "Mass looting is good :)" "You're strawmanning, we don't think everyone is racist" BLM Leaders: "Everyone is racist :)" "You're strawmanning, we don't love killing babies" Pro-abortion activists "I love killing babies to piss of conservatives :)" If the strawman is correct, is it really a strawman?
I feel like these bread tubers only have experience working entry level jobs like being a cashier or flipping burgers before they made it on RUclips. They weren't working career oriented jobs for 10 years before they started RUclips. If that were the case, their views would probably be different. Not that they would start simping for corporations, but their views would be less extreme because they would understand on some level why these complex organizational structures exist in the first place.
he made a video about his first and I think only job. He said he couldnt handle working for more than a few weeks without having a stress breakdown. It was actually pretty sad and I thought at the time he was genuinely unable but at this point I just think he feels entitled to other peoples work without having to offer anything
@@andrewmaximo4485 I would argue none of them held any "blue collar" jobs especially entry level jobs. you cannot be this detached from reality working a normal day job. They either jumped straight out of Uni or were previously working some bullshit job they got through a friend or family.
@@InformedZoomer That's probably why he's a socialist. Following the principal of 'from each according to their ability to each according to his need', he probably thinks that means he'd be able to just keep making youtube videos in his socialist fantasy, as that's the only thing he's good at, while more capable people provide for his every need.
A few Wawa (a regional convenience store chain) stores in Philly and a few Walmarts in Chicago have closed - at least in part - because of shoplifting. I know in Wawa's case affected employees were able to transfer to other stores, but I'm not sure about Walmart. I'm also curious about shoplifting's contribution to "food deserts" in the wake of grocery stores closing.
Communists don't care about their social pushes effects on actual poor people, they think their suffering will cause them to revolt, so they welcome more suffering.
You can also pay disabled folks less than minimum wage if you have a federal waver; Goodwill pays pennies an hour for it's warehouse workers. Its absolutely disgusting, you should look into it.
I’ve always found it weird how whenever there’s a video posted of somebody shoplifting people run to defend it by saying “they might’ve just been stealing necessities” but these people that are shoplifting are never stealing stuff like water or cough medicine it’s always stuff that people don’t need to survive so I’m always confused when people throw that up as a defense. Also it’s almost never a dirty scruffy looking homeless person who you can tell is struggling it’s typically kids wearing decent clothes and shoes. All of that said the “eat the rich” comic is pretty based satire considering that is really the only reason people jerk off shoplifting online and I can see why it would trigger him.
I think i directionally agree with you but for the sake of argument I think people could say that sometimes people who steal from necessity steal expensive things they don’t need to pawn off for money. It’s not that they need the flat screen tv but they can sell the tv for money to spend on things they do need.
I like how part of Steven’s schtick is to display aggressive apathy when he doesn’t like something. It’s very important that he click through the video in 5 minute increments until he reaches the end so he can say “ok” and close the tab to show how beneath him it is. I just find it funny how performative it feels sometimes. I’m very glad he did it for this guy.
Starvation? No. Food Insecurity? Absolutely. Unfortunately, many people in America struggle to meet their basic needs due to poverty, low income, chronic illness, lack of affordable housing etc. Food insecurity can lead to difficult decisions like choosing between food and rent, bills, and transportation. Are homeless people starving? No, but they do not have consistent access to meals or anything substantially nutritious. Do I think shoplifting is okay? No, it's not okay at all and if you do it and get caught then that's on you, but I understand why it happens and that food insecurity will definitely reduce shoplifting at least as far as food goes, but as someone who has worked in a grocery store I can definitely tell when someone is stealing not out of necessity (getting seafood, shellfish, premium produce, etc.)
13690 people die a year in America from starvation. Thirty-seven million people experience food insecurity in America. You would be incorrect to say that that doesn't happen or that people don't steal because of it
Though slime is a dude that probably simultaneously holds the idea that "theres too many people starving, we have to do better" and "GMO's are unethical", not knowing how genuinely impractical holding true to both would be to modern day civilization in general.
I once knew of a Magistrate who stole an energy drink from a gas station. The reason was he felt entitled. I once knew of a guy who stole catalytic converters off of vehicles. The reason? To make money with zero overhead (he stole the saw he used to do it lol). In America, virtually nobody is stealing so they or their family doesn't starve..I've ever heard of one case that could reasonably be this as a lady stole a pack of steaks and a loaf of bread and absolutely bawled when caught (the store manager actually declined to charge her, bought her groceries and took them to her house. The officer got her in touch with some resources to help her out as well. Benefit of being in a small town). Most stealing in America is about people feeling entitled, people wanting the easiest way to money, and people just thinking they can do what they want. It's not desperation 99% of the time.
I was employed by a multinational corporation and the shifts were structured to force you to come in early without pay and even though sign ins were handled electronically the manager would adjust them to eliminate over time outside of what was on the roster.
Is dude really trying to compare Simulators to actually doing the hard manual labor? LMAO
My thoughts exactly. People play truck simulator and then the log off have a meal at their kitchen table, sleep in a nice big bed at a normal time. My brother played a house maintaining game for hundreds of hours and yet his parents still do his laundry
People chop down trees in Minecraft, one of the most popular video games of all time, so logically we can infer a giant portion of the population would love to become lumberjacks. Clicking a mouse a few times is labor equivalent to swinging an axe for hours in the hot sun
@deletereddit1102 they're gonna kick him out with love too
@Delete reddit They're probably not doing it for doing it's sake, You clean clothes... because you want clean clothes? There are hygiene reasons for doing it too. The overwhelming majority of people who do laundry don't like doing laundry.
@@TgarMask Based NEET king.
"Shoplifters are actually job creators" imagine saying this about literally any other crime
Lol but murderers are great for morticians!
Drug cartels do create jobs in a sick irony.
24:20 Plus, then he literally says that shoplifting cost him his job later lol
Terrorism creates government jobs
"rapers are job creators! Think about the whole rape kit market that they are responsible for making, along with boosting the business of therapists, hospitals, and attorneys. All while occupying the police's time, which we know they'd spend terrorizing black people for fun if they weren't hunting you down."
The idea that because people play a video game in the comfort of their home where they can pause or turn it off at anytime means that they would be willing to do the actual job is insane.
That was even crazier than the stealing argument.
Yeah as a farmer this man's absolutely full of shit. He really thinks someone would do this line of work for fun?! Eh if he wants to have some fun I've got some shitty stalls that needs mucking. Oh and we are back at it at 3 am so don't get too comfy in that bed buddy!
It’s unbelievably stupid. All you literally have to ask is ‘then why aren’t they doing it now when they will get paid for it?’
Its like saying "that guy got a huge killstreak in call of duty, he'd be great in the military"
Playing games from the comfort of their own home is literally why most video game developers got into the profession.
It’s the blindingly stupid confidence that gets me. If he was making his case with at least some humility, I would just treat this as silly, but the fact that he thinks he’s fucking nailing it just kills my soul. This guy wrote out his script, took hours of his time to record it, then edited it for even more hours, and then hit upload and at no point did he think, “man, I’m r3tarded” ….amazing….
You guys all need to learn what the word facetious means.
He's like this in every video. I made the mistake of watching one about idle/clicker games because at the time I was interested in them, and he basically goes "Yeah they're fun, but they're evil and waste of time. Why are they evil? Because capitalism." and I rolled my eyes so hard that my contact lenses are still back there to this day. He rails on adventure capitalist for ages because of it's microtransactions and keeps making claims about it that if you actually know the game, you'd know it actually had NO microtransactions when it was getting popular. They were added in significantly later for a mobile release. So he's big into making claims on things he doesn't actually know.
Also he spends ages ragging on "You're paying real money and you're not even getting a physical thing!", immediately followed by "Anyway guys subscribe to my patreon".
Also also, not to rag on this too much but I see it a hell of a lot, virtue signalling creators who at the end of their videos only ever recommend channels that are run by the most marginalized person they can find, nearly always trans. But if you point it out, people say "They're just recommending what content they like bro it's not virtue signalling". Look, if you recommend 100 channels you claim to like, and despite trans people being a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the population, 70% of your recommendations go towards trans people, there's definitely SOMETHING going on there that isn't picking a random creator you like. There's definitely some external influence going on to that choice. They'd call this out if a guy only ever recommended straight, white creators, but silence when they're only ever non-white and non-straight.
I mean hasan has a job soooo, theres a market for everything.
It's a strange place in tankie/super far-left land. I don't believe Thoughtslime believes that, but that area of the internet has a ton of people that think any argument, no matter how wrong or silly, is good if you can use it to convert people to your side. They're like the far-right, they'll happily lie to your face.
It's hilarious how half a decade ago we were all memeing on people that thought the horseshoe-theory was real. It's 1000% real when it comes to tactics.
He knows what he's doing.
It’s always the people who know the least about economics who say it’s all useless
To be fair, economics can be both good and bad, based on their orientation. Steven Pinker, Thomas Sowell, and the greater part of Milton Friedman are sussing out ways to give the regular people the maximum screw, instead of using economic theory to figure out how the greatest benefit can be had for the society at large. Basically, our society went off the rails in the early 80's, with trickle down, and the rise of the Chicago school of economics, championed by Milton Friedman. You have to be a complete psychopath to take their view on econ. If your entire area of study is to figure out how to maximize profit at the expense of others, then the ultimate goal is destructive to society. That's my hot take.
and they think they know more than economists somehow. literal dunning-kruger
@crassgop Yeah, imagine if you could google "starvation in America" before saying that starvation isn't a "thing".
@crassgop Already covered it in the other answer , but starvation is suffering _or_ death caused by lack of food, not just death, and what the fuck, of course there are statistics on deaths by starvation, as well as qualifiers that many of those deaths are comprised of the infirm, the elderly and the mentally ill. Like, seriously, for fuck's sake.
"13,690 people starve to death in America per year. For every 1,000 people experiencing food insecurity, 0.37 die from starvation. In America, 37M people experience food insecurity every day (per the CDC)."
There, literally the first fucking thing that comes up when you google "starvation deaths in America.
Fucking hell.
@@RandroidPrimeGoogling it would show that there is no starvation in the US, there is "food insecurity", which means they have food, but MAYBE they could not have it at some hypothetical point.
As a third worlder americans saying there's starvation in the US is immensely insulting.
This dude compared gaming simulators to actual jobs.
We are literally at the end of days.
Kind of ashamed to admit I have watched a whole Thought Slime video, but: He literally made a whole video analyzing the camaraderie between Minecrafter's in Minecraft servers who interacted in capitalistic ways but were still friends and basically came to the conclusion that it was because all of the resources in Minecraft were abundantly accessible to all people so that what capitalism there was didn't really matter, which is why we should do socialism. YOU DON'T SAY! So it is very likely that Thought Slime basically thinks that the only reason we can't just open up creative mode IRL and pull finished products out of the ether is because capitalists are hiding it from us, or something.
It makes total sense when you don't exist beyond the internet.
I will play pallet jack simulator a million times before going back to Walmart 😂
I manage a store and am pretty easy with shoplifters, saw the guy steal on camera and told him he can leave the stuff and never come back to the centre as his footage will be given to security without police involvement. He proceeded to be incensed and angry that I can get him banned from stealing from his favourite place... Said I discriminated by seeing him on camera and caused a scene, needless to say cops arrived and he became a saint while being arrested, such a coward but i couldn’t believe what I just witnessed.
We're just past the industrial age dude lol shit changes its ok
Some people are willing to pretend to be a trucker in a videogame... okay...
Therefore, the exact amount of truckers we need could be filled perfectly with no extra incentive despite real world downsides like being away from your family and friends for large periods of time, not to mention actual health and safety hazards.
What a 10,000 IQ take!
I mean would this jackass wouldn’t exactly have friends, and he probably hates his own family.
People still play fortnite right? Shit we don't need to pay construction workers, we have millions who do construction for fun every day!
It's like he doesn't realize when you really break things down how many shitty jobs there are in the world that are necessary and without good incentives no one would do it. Coal mining, oil rigs, farming, putting together every single fucking piece of equipment that goes into making those jobs work, etc.
Like imagine the amount of truckers would increase if you could remotely control a truck safely at the comforts of your own home through simulators.
There is a MASSIVE difference between fans making a product for fun & for free, and a company, who is forced to pay people, making a product.
@Chris Smith Because certain projects-such as creating a video game, are passion projects. Most people wouldn't do their jobs if they weren't being paid for it. Do you ever see people talking about communist utopias where you would get to choose what you would contribute to society and everyone's needs are fulfilled without market forces? Turns out everyone in the commune wants to be an artist and no one wants to be a trash collector, plumber, hazardous materials handler, electrical lineman, ect. I'm not coming over to your house to fix your toilet purely to satisfy my passion for plumbing, I need a profit motive.
@Chris Smith Nothing is created for free. Labor has a value regardless of whether it has been realized in remuneration or not. The operational cost of a computer is non-zero. The manufacturing cost of the hardware utilized in software development is non-zero. Nothing is free. Small brain thinking tells you that something is 'free'. Get some big brain.
@Chris Smith Right. We don't *need* corporations. However, not all software is available for free, or the ones which are available for free are not up to the standards of professionals. So a corporation taking money for a product while they employ people to make and maintain said product is the easiest way to fulfill the demand that free software can't fulfill.
Also 98% of the video games being produced would not be made if there was no money in it. Only an insignificantly small amount of games would be made by fans. And the large triple A games wouldn’t be made at all because no fan group could afford to do it. There is no fan made GTA 5 or God Of War Ragnorok alternative for example and there never will be. Fans don’t have the technology, the know how or the time and resources to make such a demanding game. Without large companies footing the bill for a return on investment those games would never exist.
Stop that, I will not hear that the guys making 2 1/4 pvc fittings aren't a pure passion project.
“Hey guys, hobbyists in 2023 can make Nintendo’s better with today technology than Nintendo could 30 years ago when they designed and built them, soooo…..”
Can you imagine essentially making that point and thinking you are making a point about how great things would still be made for people to enjoy without an economic trade system?
Stores would just exist because we would need things. They would just sprout up from the ground and not expect money. Trucks would just drive to these places to give away what they had, gas companies would just give the trucks gas to get there, and the workers there would just work because the work needs to be done. It makes total sense.
Economists blown the fuck out
Economists and bankers (🤨) on suicide watch !!!!!
@@ezragoldberg3132 but would people not need to work to create basic necessities or they would die? Like if the world collapsed tomorrow we would all start working to produce food at least
@@PeachesandCream225 We'd *start* sure, but without modern infrastructure, a ton of people would starve (on top of the people already starving, I mean).
@@PeachesandCream225 Yeah but people would start producing food for just themselves. It would look more like the wild west then a commune for sure.
I hate people like this. I work in a grocery store and I can tell you for certain the people stealing food are never grabbing bread; it's always steaks or crab legs. Until I see the day where a Homeless man is cracking open some crab legs or grilling a steak on the asphalt I wont change my mind on that.
Also idiots like him don't realize. When the company's shrink escalates to enough of a high percentage they start cutting cost to make up those profit margin loss. Meaning, they cut the hours of the hourly associates who are just trying to make ends meat. That counters out his "That harms starts to hurt regular people," unless he's insinuating retail workers aren't regular people.
Also just because it's justified to shoplift if you're literally going to starve otherwise shouldn't make shoplifting justified in every other instance. It's a little bit like saying that killing Hitler is okay and then proceeding to say that murder is actually always okay.
@@cardibuffalo3943 good argument, did a breadtuber construct it for you
I work in a shop and I have seen people steal diapers before
Wow bro so not only do you want these poor souls with starving families of 8 to eat, but when they do you want it to be tasteless mush? Wow dude wow
I listened to all the Witcher books while playing Euro Truck Simulator for 1 or 2 hours a day, so of course I'd spend my whole day inside a truck, and sleep in truck stops, and take methamphetamines to stay awake. It just makes sense
Don't forget the occasional lot lizard interactions at truck stops .. thanks Tom Segura for informing me about these things
@@camkraw893 it's a good day when you get a lot lizard 🦎
Getting bjs from not the most attractive prostitutes...
When I get bored of truck simulator, I turn it off. When I get bored of real trucking I realize I’m 1800 miles from home and I’ve got 3 more days of driving before I see my kids again
I'm genuinely curious, what's the fun of just driving down roads for hours?
This is the type of guy who felt he was really smart because when drinking with his friends they would sometimes dabble in political discussions and he walked away feeling like he won every conversation because they would all eventually fall silent after hearing his ideas. They just didn't have the heart to tell him how dumb he sounds and so he started a RUclips channel.
Or because he's incessantly smug and acts like he's right all the time. Which means anyone who argues with him either concedes or continues long enough to knock his teeth out, and noone wants to risk the charges.
@@Winasaurus Once you remember "con artist" is short for confidence artist, it all becomes clear
Yeah you really nailed it. Best description of Destiny that I've heard
What pisses me off the most about this type of leftist is the condescending tone they use all the time. They are so confident in their wrongness, yet they talk like they just had to explain to you that clouds live in the sky abd not in the water.
People play trucking in their free time from the comfort of their home, so obviously people would happily do ice road trucking for no money
People just love plumbing. Or cleaning shit.
@@Aliyaaaa Actually checks out: One of the most popular video game characters is a plumber!
"Economics is made up"?! Hoooo boy- I came for a spicy take, not for my tongue to fall out of my mouth glowing hot red.
Bro that's like a standard axiom of leftist thinking at this point. They'll say economics is a pseudoscience while praising Marx for literally being an economist, like the cognitive dissonance is concerning me pretty bad at this point, I don't know if these people are just grifters or dumb
Yeah don’t you know? This ONE GUY is smarter than every economist in the history of the world.
even funnier considering Marx was an economist to an extent
Besides him defending shoplifting, his whole demeanor during the video the, zoom in, the pauses, just kill me
It reminds me of the way people talk and animate their faces in childrens tv programs for like, todlers.
@@ravener96 Thats what he's doing. Its clearly pointed at children.
just the absurdly punchable face
He looks like an animatronic or an early 3D CGI model
He's incredibly off-putting
Whenever I see Thought Slime's face, I feel the intense urge to punch my screen.
Same.
Not surprising to see Destiny and his fans show much more hatred to leftist than rapist like Andrew Tate and Sneako. Maybe you're just a different flavor of conservative when you hate leftists more than evil right wingers?
Same
Truth this guy is a menace... there ain't no thought anywhere close to that yuppie wannabe
Conan O’Brien’s Punch TV needs to be a real thing.
We finally found him. Mr. Reddit himself
The journey is over.
We can rest easy now
Came back to this video just for the fuck of it and now I'm dying thanks bro
This guy actually just compared Euro truck simulator to real trucking...
It's always funny to me how the type of people to claim that others are dogwhistling, are the first ones to start dogwhistling their encouragement for you to commit crimes while they sit comfortably in their bedroom
She’s not dog whistling. She’s just a pathetic coward who doesn’t like to own it. Just say that you don’t care if people shoplift.
1. u dont know whata dogwhistle is 2. shoplifting ""dogwhistles"" are totally on the same level as fascist ones
you don't know what dog whistling is...
More like he’s screaming at the dog
@@usucdik Dogwhistling is only nazi obviously English words are known to be hyper-specific to only certain concepts
I'm as left-wing as they come, but even I have no idea how people get to this point. It's always on this topic too, I have friends that trip over themselves to defend shoplifting, and I just don't get it; stealing can be morally justified in individual instances, yes, but you can't propagate the normalization of a behaviour that would so obviously lead to negative consequences. There are always exceptions to the rule, but laws exist for the standard, is it really so hard to comprehend?
I'm in the same boat as you. This is what happens when people surround themselves with theory bros that have to know idea how to apply their reading to modern times circle jerk each other on Twitter
@@dblock20 Thought Slime doesn’t know theory though. He doesn’t read it all. Unlearning Economics on the other hand is a socialist that knows economics better than majority of leftist video essayist. They don’t bother to learn the enemy.
It's funny because it's the same stupidity that right wingers have. They think in individuals instead of populations. Sure, if an individual steals, it's not that big of a deal. But, as you said, if stealing was normalized across the population, society would fucking collapse. It's like Ben Shapiro saying that the issue with poverty is that we are not individually giving to charity enough.
So you're pro child genital mutilation and pro crime. What's crazy is that you lefties act like you don't outright support this sort of criminal culture with your political beliefs. All we need to do is look at basically any major US city.
It's working backwards from a conclusion: corporations are bad, profit is theft, people should have anything they need provided for free, the system is broken so any means of acceleration towards the inevitable proletariat revolution is morally justified; ergo, shoplifting is good. Realpolitik is irrelevant.
In one of my accounting classes for businesses I remember learning that businesses do account for "expected losses" when analyzing a financial overview. Walmart expects for a certain average of goods to be stolen, broken, returned, etc. Now if more people started shoplifting than expected, they might just have to start looking at cost saving avenues...
Its apart of "shrink" I believe, which also accounts for damages. But yeah, that's usually > 5-7% of total revenue at most and that's usually factored into the cost of items/services. What's not accounted for is mass ransacking of a store. There's no way any company can lose the merchandise from a store a keep reasonable margins- even if the merchandise is insured. Insurance doesn't exactly pay out immediately, as anyone who has dealt with the bureaucracy of Insurance Companies even a little bit would attest to.
@@joeldykman7591 Additionally Insurance companies also have margins, If the number of payable claims exceeds their own projections they will have to raise their premiums.
Like closing stores?
Walmart has just announced store closings in Chicago, and they already closed every store in Portland because of overwhelming amounts of theft. Once theft gets into the double digit percentages, it can basically make the store no longer profitable to operate.
All Walmarts in Portland, OR are closing because of too much shoplifting
"Stealing from places like Walmart is morally righteous and fine."
*Prices soar sky high due to theft, making it impossible for honest citizens to afford anything*
yes, but according to this idiot, Walmart should just absorb those loses and not raise prices.
Pretty sure there was a target or whatever that closed down because it experienced so much theft that they just closed it down altogether. So now everybody loses
@@skylerblumenthal7003 Big businesses have been closing en-masse in San Francisco because they passed an enlightened law that nobody can be prosecuted for shoplifting under $1,000, and store security are now legally not allowed to enforce their own stores. There's videos of kids walking in with trash bags and just emptying the shelves into them while security stand there and helplessly watch.
Oh please, prices don't need to go up because of theft.
@@nope5657 And now many stores do you own?
“Physiognomy isn’t real”
*sees thoughtslime*
NVM
What I find really weird is that the more shoplifting occurs, the more brick-and-mortar stores become unviable. I could imagine that would lead to more products ending up in warehouses and online commerce being the predominant means to buy things…which requires shipping and delivery. Out of the hands of one megacorp and into the next I suppose…
Steal from Walmart and buy things at local places
@@mlgmcdonaldsland7063 But the local places are under scrutiny because it's "racist" to have high prices and bullet proof glass, you see?
As corporations like Amazon consolidate the market, they squeeze smaller places out. And as these corporations exert more power over people’s lives, eventually the people get fed up and riot or steal from these stores. There’s an intersection here between wealth inequality, monopolies, and the destruction of small stores. It’s not that simple. Why are people this willing to steal or riot? Surely a safety net is missing. Democracy should not so easily push people to steal.
I mean, he's called Thought Slime. Name says it all.
He thinks if he says it before you, it makes it an inaccurate description of his mental state
I was introduced to him by Sitch and Adam, and I thought they were calling him Thought Slime as a derisive nickname.
Nope. Imagine unironically calling yourself something like that.
This is why you never give up in life guys.
As long as this guy is having any success; clearly literally anything is possible in life.
Say you dreamt of flying as a young child.
You can literally fly; probably.
Amen!! ❤
This honestly sounds like you’re telling people to off themselves. “Don’t give up but maybe you can fly” like bruh pulls a 180 and is like we better off without you so try flying.
People like this always lose everything, it isn't today. However this guy is very likely to die over something stupid or go homeless.
Pilots license!!!!!!
@@VainSick I mean you can just get a plane ticket or some bullshit
Does this dude have a merch store? He's got more money than a lot of his audience, he is fair game by his own rules.
Imagine how his opinion would suddenly shift.
@@Earthad23 it wouldn't, Communists are very much a "its good when we do it, its bad when it happens to us, because we fight for the cause", same way Hasan can be a greedy capitalist monster, he's fighting for the socialist cause, somehow, really Communism/Socalism is just a refuge for morally evil people to loophole themselves into feeling righteous about their impotent rage and hate they have inside, you see, ThoughtSlime here may SEEM like a awful human, but he's fighting for the "workers" or w/e.
Yep... he just started selling t-shirts... watch the video it's awful
@@DSPHistoricalSocietydo you have a link?
@@SP-td9xj yeah dawg i got you
ruclips.net/video/FRTZsj57HdU/видео.html
I have had many different jobs, indoor, outdoor, retail, medical field, office joins, and software/programming. I have never heard of anyone being asked to clock out to use the bathroom. That is CRAZY if your employer does this. Definitely not a normal practice.
Yeah, even when I was working retail they never did that. It was only a thing for some people if you were creating a pattern and obviously using it to dink around.
yeah..the only time I have ever heard if it is if someone is taking like 10 minute bathroom breaks every hour or something.
Truth!!
This guy wouldn't want to farm I can almost guarantee that lmaooo. Otherwise why tf does he spend money on food
Its worse, he expects basically everyone to keep doing their jobs for fun.
I don't think he ever even had a shovel in those mitts.... but just cuz you wanna farm don't mean you can, I've been trying to get land and a good living from farming, pretty much impossible less you already got connects or big money, farming ain't quaint opps no more is 500000.000 dollar tractors that link with GPS to monitor crops and watering from satellite images.... but you can usually grow food nuff fo your kin and homies if you wanna and got the bug
Because he gets easy ridiculous money for 1 sub-25 min video a month
@ravener
The argument wasn’t that “everyone will keep doing their jobs for fun” it was that people will continue to work if the economy wasn’t organized around profit incentives because people need/want to spend their time doing work they find fulfilling. The example was that people will do things deemed as “work” without getting paid because they enjoy doing it, not that we should expect people to work for no compensation because “their jobs are fun”. It’s seeing beyond the myth that profit is the only possible motivation for companies to exist and that rather they can exist outside of that motivation as there’s an innate want/need for people to work and give their life purpose or to fill their time. People don’t only work because their company wants profit. It’s the same reason why people who got lucky in life and inherited or won a massive amount of wealth will continue working a normal job because it’s fulfilling to do so. They’re not motivated by making money so the company can profit but by the need to spend their days doing something they either enjoy or find rewarding in some way, even when all their monetary needs are met and them some outside of the job.
@@MrFuzziiWuzzii maybe 10% of the population even know what they find fulfilling. What happens if too many ppl choose work already fully represented?
It’s like watching Les Miserables and thinking the moral of the story is you can only be a virtuous person if you steal bread. Baby’s first political thoughts.
That man has clearly never worked manual labor for a single day in his life.
Neither has he ever touch a soldering iron. Lmao, the nintendo take.
True. He just looks like an overweight diddler😂
I like when he essentially argues people would want to farm because they played a farm sim video game. As if they’re actually out in the field toiling away. 99.9% of people playing those games couldn’t lift a hay bale irl let alone want to lmao
The craziest part of his argument to me is the whole "People who do this for free."
Shoplifting is one of the least useful actions for the collective good possible. It is an entirely individualistic pursuit.
Only benefits the person doing it, and in the long term not even that due to economics.
@@No_OneV I'll even allow that a portion of the people are stealing also to benefit a few other people, but yes, there is no sustainable retail system where theft is commonplace.
why do people on the internet try so hard to make petty theft look cool it is seriously one of the lamest trends i have ever seen
They think it’s black culture
Yeah I get shoplifting, but talking abt it is embarrassing. Taking the next step and arguing it's virtuous is even more wild 💀. I love asking employees to unlock the fucking deodorant. Maybe every store will just operate like an arcade full of vending machines, depending on machine upkeep cost it might be cheaper one day. Cool 😀
It's just lame as fuck
Because it's easy and makes you look like a rebel.
Its kind of wild that we’ve reached a point in time where _grown adults_ have to be told that _stealing is wrong_
Stupidest timeline
We live in a world where if we didn't take the time to explain the behavior we are looking for I swear almost everyone would be some psychopath rapist.
It's not wrong. At least in some cases. I really can't be assed to give a FUCK if somebody steals from walmart. I just don't encourage it because of the legal ramifications.
They act as if they are “””””””””””rebels “”””””””””” against some vast conspiracy of a pack of capitalist who I’m pretty sure they think are Jews.
@@nope5657 hey can you go open a store so i can come steal from it thanks
People play powerwasher simulator. Which means they would do the real thing for like fun!
Exactly. Playing a game that simulates power washing is the same as physical labor of said action. Same with spending time away from your family as a trucker. Is this what he was implying?
@@sikleqt it's true though.
If I could be goku irl, I'd totally do it.
The idea behind saying such blatantly false thing is that if they say it and signal that the rest of their group should say it then they'll get other people to start saying it too. Same thing with calling men who wear dresses women.
@@lordsneed9418 ah yes the timeless game of, how do I make this about the transgenders?
@@lordsneed9418 Name checks out.
Wage theft is actually really easy, most clock systems run in 15 minute steps so if you clock-in at 8:01 it actually starts counting your hours from 8:15 so some of the early shift managers actually show up for opening the store a minute late on purpose (small business) or force people to clock out on bathroom breaks so if you clock out at 8:14 and clock back in at 8:16 you just missed 30 minutes in payments.
This actually was the case in my first job (retail) and most of the older people that know how it worked would just take their breaks after they needed to use the restroom.
Also bonusses is always a huge scam, moving the goalpost at the very last second or being exceptionally vague about percentages or distribution. I actually worked for a company that gave 17 workers about 800 dollars in annual bonus after we tripled profits (in the millions) and I quit on the spot.
Especially companies with less than 25 employees are the absolute worst.
What the actual hell, quitting that place must have been joyous! Hopefully you have a much better job.
@@bellzhellz5922 yes this was very early in my career, I have been able to work for much better employers now
Having to log bathroom breaks seems insane to me.
In thought slimes world, it'd be praxis to watch and distribute his patreon exclusive content without compensating him, considering he steals time from his audience without providing noticeable thought or labor into his videos.
In my experience the larger the corporation the better your compensation is. The largest companies I've worked for have stock options and bonus'. Smaller companies nickel and dime people cause their existence is on a thin line.
I know that as a fact. I got dicked around for years because I'm the type that was against corporations. Small business owners are sociopaths (at least the ones I worked for). Now I work for a big Corp and I make twice as much for half the work, full benefits and retirement. I wasted a lot of my life to live paycheck to paycheck. America just is built that way.
I think it also depends on the type of work as well. I see myself agreeing harder for frontline work, vs say office work
This is one billion percent true, ESPECIALLY in software engineering. If you work at a tiny 6 person company, they’ll pay you about a THIRD as much as Amazon or Apple will. I experienced this first hand. First job I ever had was at a small business. When I joined a startup, they doubled my salary. Then, when I joined a FAANG company, they increased it by 50%. Fuck small businesses.
@@majortom8990IIRC, there were quite a few small business owners at January 6th, so what you said definitely tracks.
My Brain hurt 2 mins in destiny can definitely tolerate stupidity better than me💀
Are we the same person, i could barely finish the video
the fact that he also is incredibly stupid helps
I turned it off after 2 min
idk how to explain it, but this guy has Reddit energy. And I mean that in the most negative way possible.
12:04 I believe he was conflating wage theft with low wages. He started saying “they’ll pay you as little as they can get away with” and somehow ended up with wage theft.
Just to be clear, if your contract says you’re getting paid $5 an hour, and you worked 40 hours and are paid for the 40 hours you worked… this is NOT wage theft.
technically if you're getting paid $5/hr that is wage theft since the federal minimum wage is $7.25, but the point being that thought slime is a remedial that doesn't know what it's talking about
These types always say that 100% of value is derived from labor so any for profit business is necessarily stealing wages. Which makes total sense because as we know complex and totally voluntary businesses are just always springing up spontaneously and certainly require no coordination or initial investment
@@hejhowareyou True, I stand corrected on the amount. Let’s change it to whatever the minimum wage is, that’s what’s in the contract.
@@jdarling5315 lol it’s not like you need funds, time, effort, legal permits, or infrastructure to start a business 😂 … These silly capitalist 🤦🏽♀️, don’t even know how businesses work.
When I was a homeless vet getting abused by the cops and random people on the street, shoplifting was a based way to keep myself fed and way to get back at the system that had its boot on my throat. I'm glad to say as of October of last year, I finally am no longer homeless. I think stealing for food is justified in extreme cases, like mine, but people shouldn't steal.
Why did you leave the house without money🤨
@@armadasinterceptor2955 drug addiction and mental illness can take all of that from you
@@8eight104 Yea I know, I'm just trolling.
Then you're basically what they're larping as.
@@iz2333 LMAO it fucking sucks why would anyone want this?
Going to the coal mines bc it’s rewarding 😊
The idea behind saying such blatantly false thing is that if they say it and signal that the rest of their group should say it then they'll get other people to start saying it too. Same thing with calling men wearing dresses women.
people play Coal Mining Simulator man. that proves that people would do it IRL
The children yearn for the mines.
That black lung is what I live for, you feel?
I remember seeing Sitch and Adam cover a similar video from another Crumbtuber a while back nearly gave me a brain aneurysm
Did they pause it every 0.0200436 seconds of the video?
Do you know what video? I like pain
@@patrickgain2086 that is so annoying 😂
@@pellelindtner3488 I remember now the crumbtuber in question was some moron named renegade cut stream was like half a year ago I’ll see if I can find it
Edit: found it ruclips.net/user/liveTNVs1uZri08?feature=share
While I'm inclined to believe their takes tend to be relatively bad, I can understand that there are worse takes, like "stealing is OK, especially if everybody does it".
I don't have any statistics, but if you live in a poorer area, you see the things that are locked up at stores with anti-shoplifting measures, it's usually shampoo, detergent, baby formula, condoms and other day-to-day necessities.
did you legit just say with a straight face no one starves in America?!?!?!
i mean i haven’t really seen any evidence that it’s really a noticeable problem
@@jaek__ Are you high?
@@tendeadbunnies7547 no
@@tendeadbunnies7547 i mean are you
Under 1% of deaths in the USA are attributed to starvation or malnutrition
I know people who’s rent are payed for by their parents and who still defend stealing to the skin of their teeth. I’ve never seen any of my below the poverty line friends do the same
I worked at the container store and people stole toooooons of stuff, nothing they could eat.
Oh my God, the logical fallacies, it hurts, so many of them. Not shopping at a store that is in the red is not even close to the same thing stealing from them and causing harm to the store owners, employees, and costumers.
Truuuuuuuu😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣
It's still discrimination whether you feel it's warranted. The worst part of politics is it gets normally good people to hate on otherwise normally good people we rely on everyday to run our society.. it takes a village.. not tribalism. The Capulets and Montagues.. no matter how they feel about each other.. look at what they crush to maintain their partisan status.
I agreed with this opinion until Turtle posted it.
We must seize the means of production.
@@johnflory3306 What?.. Marxism or Socialism? I'm for it! Either way.. I watched A Beautiful Mind.. I know whatsup lol
copy paste bot
4:00 he probably just thinks Matt Walsh questioning trans ideology is a hatecrime in and of itself
What is "trans ideology?"
I’m a target employee and I deeply resent shoplifters. They are the reason I waste hours of my time putting items as cheap as $10 in a security box 😡
The most common way to steal wages in large businesses is to have the employees clock out to finish unfinished work when their shift ends.
Isn't "we make nintendos because people want them" part of economics lmao
Consumer: “There is nothing to be learned from economics”
It's easy to not pay someone for overtime at a big company. The employee works the ot and the company doesn't approve it after. Has happened to me a dozen times.
Theres a lot of reasons why OT can be sidestepped. For instance, in my state, technically a person on salary is capable of earning OT, but the formal procedure required to do so usually dissuades people from going the process. Also, the specific policies of how time is tracked in companies could lead to denying OT. Not saying any of this is good, but if you learn the system, you can better game it.
As far as I know this is illegal where I live. Working overtime that wasn't approved can get you written up or talked to by a manager, but they have to pay it.b
“People like to play video games where they’re a long-haul trucker, so those people must actually want to be a long-haul trucker.” Thoughtslime literally doesn’t know the difference between these things
This is what happens when you don’t have any real moral standards…..
You say that while watching DESTINY? the zionist???
In my hometown, bags of gummy worms and chips are behind antitheft devices in the 7eleven.
I’ve been cheated out of my overtime before. I was pretty young and I didn’t know much about anything and didn’t realize the company policy was to pay overtime to any employers who came in to work during time they were scheduled to be off. I thought I couldn’t get overtime because I was a part time employee but that actually didn’t matter. I had no idea and the first manager I had there neglected to tell me about that. After a while he was fired and the woman that replaced him was so much better. She was so nice and she had started working in my position and had worked her way to that so she really understood the people under her. She always made sure we paid the right amount and would also actually help out when it was busy or when I wasn’t feeling well. I have an autoimmune disease and she was very understanding about it. Having a good boss or manager really makes all the difference in the world. I do think it’s pretty shitty though how few rights most workers have here. Mississippi is a fire at will state meaning you can fire anyone at any time for any reason. It is still possible to get in trouble for explicit discrimination on things like race but overall it’s way easier to get away with screwing over workers with this system.
Same... of course my boss was my Uncle...
The idea of a giant store like Walmart was that they can buy materials in bulk and sell it at a cheap price.. if they hike up the price, shoppers would shop elsewhere..
it's not evil, it's basic free market trade agreement
No, but to be fair, the idea of paying your employees at or below the poverty line so they qualify for government programs IS actually evil. And you know they are getting tax breaks on top of it. So, while it's true that it's basic free market principles, it's also very destructive to society when it results in massive disparity in wealth accumulation. I'm still on the fence as to whether the free market principles are good, or if they just exist. I guess it's just another way of doing things, though it does tend to reward the absolute worst kinds of people. I'd prefer a system that tends more toward utilitarianism, at least more so than our current system. It won't be able to handle much more stress before it manifests in unrest.
@@joeymac4302 the poverty line thing was debunked.. they make 12 or 13 an hour
@@gambitbeats2154 Lol, 11 dollars is below the poverty line at 22k a year. 12-13 is at or below it if you have a single dependent. How is that debunked? The GAO did a study that found that Walmart and McDonalds are the top two employers of individuals who qualify for medicaid and food benefits. All while the CEO got a 34 million package for the year. It's indefensible, and the data doesn't lie. You should look into it, before you jump straight to DEBUNKED!!!
@@joeymac4302 but giving ppl less then 40 hours a week because they can't afford to give out health and dental so they give workers a chance to get those benefits from taxes isn't evil, it's better the workers have the medical than not having it at all, it's just the way the system is set up.. in Canada they pay a 45% tax rate (imagine only getting 55% of your work check just to have free medical), at least the US we only pay 17%
@@gambitbeats2154 Everybody pays 45% in Canada? They don't have any form of progressive taxation? Also a fair question, what percent of people go into debt in Canada due to medical expenses? Is it higher or lower than the USA? You make Canada sound like a hellhole, but I'm not aware of people scrambling across the border to get here.
.....I made it like 10 seconds into the ThoughtSlime clip before I just got overloaded with stupidity
Shoplifting is fine if it’s necessities from giant corporations. If you see someone stealing food, no you didn’t!
I can unequvically say that if I were not compensated in any way for my job then it would not be done.
All it takes is tipping to make people understand wage theft is much bigger and worse problem than shoplifting. People wouldn't even think of stealing if they were paid fairly.
Exactly
A few people make just enough to bet by and not feel the need to turn to crime but many others especially families where the kids feel left out so much compared to others they will feel inclined to steal and commit crimes. I think this take doesn’t make sense through an economic standpoint so it’s easy to dismiss but it definitely makes sense through a sociological lense.
@crassgop wdym there’s no consequences. There is consequences. It’s just people feel like they have to resort to do that regardless of the consequences.
@crassgop you are arguing regional differences, people forget things vary greatly in different places
Don't believe it.
I have seen thieves. So far, none of them actually needed it.
I lost it at "we would still have Nintendos because.. people like having Nintendos. 🤓"
While dissecting one of his videos, Adam over at Adam and Sitch show called Thought Slime 'Thought Crime' as a joke. And i feel it fits, because sometimes his hot takes are so stupid it feels like a felony to listen to them. Like, i feel like am reading from Anarchist Cookbook on steroids that shows you how to make explosives from soap.
20:32 - Thought Slime has obviously never seen the inner workings of Wal-Mart
This triggered me like a minute in. my god this is unhinged.
Isnt thoughtslime the left equivalent of no bs?
Yes
That’s a really good analogy lol
if petty theft becomes more common, the goods just become more expensive for the paying people, again dis-proportionally hurting the working poor.
Hasn't it been proven that their is no theft crime wave?
@@kap1618Depends on where you live, but no. Crime has seen an increase, especially in Canada. There was over 5 shootings in Ontario alone during the passed few weeks! Look at your news and then compare it to other cities and countries, you'll be shocked. 🤷🏿♀️
@@xXLunatikxXlul I live in America, not in Canada. The "shop lifting and crime wave epidemic" seems to have been bs. I can't speak for Canada, though.
Economists: "How is the issue of scarcity dealt with?"
Leftists: ...
16:50
Destiny thinks all jobs have the exact same method of clocking in and out as the places he worked.
The computer we use to punch in can also be used to alter the times we punch in. So if I show up on time but forget to punch in, they can just change my time. Theoretically, they could do that to steal wages very easily. You have to track your hours yourself to know for sure that you aren't getting ripped off.
If you play a driving simulator, you want to do it in real life. I'm done
I stole a PS5 from Walmart. You dont understand, though, I was a little hungry. You'd do the same in my position!
Bruh that’s how I get my daily dose of mercury I eat the mother boards. Why you shaming me.
This is the dude people on the left keep telling me doesn't exist.
"You're strawmanning, we don't think mass looting is good"
This guy: "Mass looting is good :)"
"You're strawmanning, we don't think everyone is racist"
BLM Leaders: "Everyone is racist :)"
"You're strawmanning, we don't love killing babies"
Pro-abortion activists "I love killing babies to piss of conservatives :)"
If the strawman is correct, is it really a strawman?
Shoplifting is indeed condonable in a lot of cases. Fight be CHUDs
This guy couldn't hold a job in costumer service for a week
I feel like these bread tubers only have experience working entry level jobs like being a cashier or flipping burgers before they made it on RUclips. They weren't working career oriented jobs for 10 years before they started RUclips. If that were the case, their views would probably be different. Not that they would start simping for corporations, but their views would be less extreme because they would understand on some level why these complex organizational structures exist in the first place.
he made a video about his first and I think only job. He said he couldnt handle working for more than a few weeks without having a stress breakdown. It was actually pretty sad and I thought at the time he was genuinely unable but at this point I just think he feels entitled to other peoples work without having to offer anything
@@andrewmaximo4485 I would argue none of them held any "blue collar" jobs especially entry level jobs. you cannot be this detached from reality working a normal day job. They either jumped straight out of Uni or were previously working some bullshit job they got through a friend or family.
@@InformedZoomer That's probably why he's a socialist. Following the principal of 'from each according to their ability to each according to his need', he probably thinks that means he'd be able to just keep making youtube videos in his socialist fantasy, as that's the only thing he's good at, while more capable people provide for his every need.
@@louiscypher4186 Nah some of them may have had a paper round when they were kids, that's manual labour right?...
"Economics is bad because I can make Nintendo in my garage" said the man who would rather steal a Nintendo than make one.
thought slime is so violently unfunny that listening to him try to crack a joke feels like a violation of my consent.
oh god here we go...
Remember bros, looking like shit is a choice
"Guys I have an idea, instead of making people pay for things, let's just make the things and give it a way."
Groundbreaking right?
You can just tell this person has probably never gotten his ass beat or truly humbled in any way.
They are just begging for a wedgie
Is this really your first thought? Did you ever leave middle school, or are you still there rn?😂
@@rob9726 He's right, sometimes people deserve to be decked in order to wake tf up.
@@SHVRWK Spoken like a guy who's never been in a fight.
@@rob9726 Getting into a fight isn't that uncommon chief, maybe for the terminally online like you.
Thought Slime deserves the opposite a Nobel Prize, some sort of recognition for having the worst idea this year.
"The Dumbel Prize"
A few Wawa (a regional convenience store chain) stores in Philly and a few Walmarts in Chicago have closed - at least in part - because of shoplifting. I know in Wawa's case affected employees were able to transfer to other stores, but I'm not sure about Walmart. I'm also curious about shoplifting's contribution to "food deserts" in the wake of grocery stores closing.
Communists don't care about their social pushes effects on actual poor people, they think their suffering will cause them to revolt, so they welcome more suffering.
I can't take Thought Slime seriously. The guy looks like that tow truck from cars 💀
Oh no, I see it.
Shop lifting from Walmart doesn't hurt the employees.
Meanwhile: 4 wallmarts pull out of chicago due to shop lifting, leaving over 5,000 unemployed.
You can also pay disabled folks less than minimum wage if you have a federal waver; Goodwill pays pennies an hour for it's warehouse workers. Its absolutely disgusting, you should look into it.
I’ve always found it weird how whenever there’s a video posted of somebody shoplifting people run to defend it by saying “they might’ve just been stealing necessities” but these people that are shoplifting are never stealing stuff like water or cough medicine it’s always stuff that people don’t need to survive so I’m always confused when people throw that up as a defense.
Also it’s almost never a dirty scruffy looking homeless person who you can tell is struggling it’s typically kids wearing decent clothes and shoes.
All of that said the “eat the rich” comic is pretty based satire considering that is really the only reason people jerk off shoplifting online and I can see why it would trigger him.
I think i directionally agree with you but for the sake of argument I think people could say that sometimes people who steal from necessity steal expensive things they don’t need to pawn off for money. It’s not that they need the flat screen tv but they can sell the tv for money to spend on things they do need.
I like how part of Steven’s schtick is to display aggressive apathy when he doesn’t like something. It’s very important that he click through the video in 5 minute increments until he reaches the end so he can say “ok” and close the tab to show how beneath him it is.
I just find it funny how performative it feels sometimes. I’m very glad he did it for this guy.
It's a bit performative, but I don't know if it's intentional, I think it's part of his personality, plus he really hates this people
I dunno, ive done the same when watching thought slime. Sometimes something is so cringe or dumb that you have to skip to stay sane
Thought Slime hates House 2, he can go screw.
@@chrishekman6179 amen!! ❤
@@wilsonsanabia4259 amen!! ❤
Starvation? No.
Food Insecurity? Absolutely.
Unfortunately, many people in America struggle to meet their basic needs due to poverty, low income, chronic illness, lack of affordable housing etc.
Food insecurity can lead to difficult decisions like choosing between food and rent, bills, and transportation.
Are homeless people starving? No, but they do not have consistent access to meals or anything substantially nutritious.
Do I think shoplifting is okay? No, it's not okay at all and if you do it and get caught then that's on you, but I understand why it happens and that food insecurity will definitely reduce shoplifting at least as far as food goes, but as someone who has worked in a grocery store I can definitely tell when someone is stealing not out of necessity (getting seafood, shellfish, premium produce, etc.)
13690 people die a year in America from starvation.
Thirty-seven million people experience food insecurity in America.
You would be incorrect to say that that doesn't happen or that people don't steal because of it
Hearing this guy makes me want to walk into traffic. 😂
But destiny is a girl's name
@WarsWorth I mean it's 2023 so.... yeh you right.
Do a backflip!
@@WarsWorth
Destiny is an alpha male and has a girlfriend.
Though slime is a dude that probably simultaneously holds the idea that "theres too many people starving, we have to do better" and "GMO's are unethical", not knowing how genuinely impractical holding true to both would be to modern day civilization in general.
Gmos are based
Imagine someone being so smooth-brained they try to equate shoplifting with the underground railroad.
I once knew of a Magistrate who stole an energy drink from a gas station. The reason was he felt entitled. I once knew of a guy who stole catalytic converters off of vehicles. The reason? To make money with zero overhead (he stole the saw he used to do it lol).
In America, virtually nobody is stealing so they or their family doesn't starve..I've ever heard of one case that could reasonably be this as a lady stole a pack of steaks and a loaf of bread and absolutely bawled when caught (the store manager actually declined to charge her, bought her groceries and took them to her house. The officer got her in touch with some resources to help her out as well. Benefit of being in a small town).
Most stealing in America is about people feeling entitled, people wanting the easiest way to money, and people just thinking they can do what they want. It's not desperation 99% of the time.
I was employed by a multinational corporation and the shifts were structured to force you to come in early without pay and even though sign ins were handled electronically the manager would adjust them to eliminate over time outside of what was on the roster.
@SlamScum The same company went to court for wage theft of people on workers visa
@SlamScum was it in a country where legal advice is cheap enough for employees to argue it in court?