I think the truckers at least thought chaining up would work. Surely NOT. At least they have a cab to stay warm, etc. But the passenger cars have NO business there!!! So they have to run fuel to stay warm, no food or toilet!! WTH is wrong with these idiots!! 😮😮😮
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Hey, I lived in California on the strand (Cornado), and people got coolers and lounge chairs to have a party on the beach, to watch the tiddle wave come in. I evacuated to higher ground and fortunately for the idiots it did not happen but was out in the ocean. Back in the early 80's after Alaska had an earth quack. People need protected from themselves. In Florida people have hurricane parties, with kids. Get drunk and party during it. Sad world we live in sometimes.
@@leem200 I got drunk during Irma and Ian but that's only because I work in a hospital and have to stay. Trust me, getting drunk makes it go by faster.
Everyone should have known about this blizzard, why would they even think it was OK to go up there? And the trucking industry should never have put their drivers in harms way.
The trucks are what ticks me off the most here. Not only are they more likely to get stuck, but once they are they are much more difficult to get moving again. As far as regular passengers they should have no less than awd/4wd with snow tires on every wheel. Tires chains can malfunction. They should also have experience driving uphill in deep snow, I don't care about how much snow you get in the midwest with ZERO hills to navigate, they change the game quite a bit. EDIT: I didn't mean don't use chains also, but I don't trust only using them on a car that is otherwise no good in the snow.
Agreed, trucking companies & even private operators should be fined heavily if they are on the road. Get your employee a room, tell them to sit it out and you will cover them until it is over.
So, a little fun fact, drivers are absolutely in control of shutting down if conditions are bad and there's nothing a company could do about it. Even if the company retaliates, which they're not allowed to do, the driver can sue the company. The FMCSA rule book clearly states that a driver can shut down in bad weather and there's nothing the company can do about it.@@efpwdude
@@DigitalHaze65536Traffic should have been stopped at Auburn California which is elevation 1,234. Forty five years driving in Colorado has taught me lessons in driving on snow covered roads. Studded and sipped tires help. Winter tires help. The two most important factors are slow down and always keep your momentum. In my big rig I chain all 8 drive tires. My preferred strategy is stay home or park in Denver until the road is plowed. Psychologically the best strategy is be humble and realize nature is in control- not you. Hope you are well and safe. Good comment.
@@rayray4192 Thank you. I'm just in the hills of Pennsylvania but I'm over 50 years old so I've seen the worst of what we get. A 500' vertical hill (900'asl) is nothing compared to out west, but it's enough to teach how to drive up a hill. They do a terrible job of plowing so I've had to drive a few miles up with 8-12" of snow on the road, you can "get by" with awd with all season tires here, but if you have to stop you will get stuck. I managed to get it going again on my own but I'm getting too old for that stress, I have a 4wd 4Runner with snow rated tires now. I've always driven slow when conditions are bad, even if you can go you have to be able to stop for something unexpected. Our guard rail is dented 100% of the way from cars smacking into it lol.
Here's the thing. When the Weatherman says its gonna Snow TEN FEET in the Sierras, you DO NOT try to go over Donner Summit for ANY reason.I lived in Truckee for several years and used to assist a Tow Truck driver on Donner Summit back in the 80s. One time we stayed on the Summit for 48 hours straight during a bad storm. I have some wild stories I could tell you but not enough room here to tell them.
a lot of people work in hospitals, care facilities, mail facilities, law enforcement, and local/federal government operations. their work doesn't pause for weather.
@eyeseverywhere8246 they don't drive teslas that get stuck and stranded blocking the road. We drive 4x4s with studded tires and could drive through 3 feet of powder and we live up here and are used to it. These people are hopeless.
@@lixsajoe yup honestly the vehicle barley matters compared to the tires. Tesla or any other awd car with blizzaks or hakkapeliittas will run rings around the most lifted 4x4 with MT or even 3pmsf AT tires on a hillclimb road. The big aggressive blocks on at and mt tires that work great on mud are actually not very helpful on snow and ice.
A huge Thank You to CHP and CalTrans for all your heroic efforts and hard work getting all these people out! I cannot believe how many people actually thought it was a good idea to go through Donner Pass when a blizzard was forcast!
It really puts into perspective the nightmare the Donner party went through in that area. Imagine traveling in covered wagons, without benefit of plows, emergency vehicles, lights, heat etc.
And they had no fancy water proof clothing or high tech footwear, and they were basically breaking trail as they proceeded along, moving rocks,trees and brush in their paths. 98.9% of our soft society wouldn’t have lasted a day back then.
Very good question! I would think the only ones out would be the truckers. If they have a load to take somewhere I guess they have no option but to try to make it through. All the others? I saw the prediction of this storm, and advisories for drivers not to drive through it days ago, and I'm thousands of miles away, so why did they chance traveling there?
"How bad could it be anyway?" to "I have places to be!" to "it will be fine..." people are amazing at telling themselves all sort of bs and believing it
@@gparsons320not true at all for the truckers. Most of them have the option to shut down instead of trying to get thru these situations. We have tire chains but not to get thru these situations but to get out of them. I can't speak for UPS, FedEx and those type of companies but the long haul drivers can shutdown before hand. Headed west we usually stop in the Reno/sparks area until the storm passes and the roads are clear. East bound we stop anywhere before 80 starts going up to Donner pass. All these big rigs ur seeing trying to continue on 80 and getting stuck in traffic, idk what to tell you. If it's me I'm parked at the Petro or TA in Reno and waiting it out. Their reasoning is probably that they have a delivery to make which is going be late anyways or they didn't know it was going to be this bad but it was forecasted days ahead of time. And some of them are just super truckers who aren't bigger than mother nature herself. And besides the hwy signs say the hwy is closed ahead so you can only go as far as the traffic jam.
It's simply amazing not a single person in this mess knew the weather was going to be bad. If we only had a way to get the message to the public, like some kind of broadcast or perhaps a portable wireless phone that could tell you or maybe even a company that would provide weather updates 24 hours a day. Maybe someday we'll have those things.
When I lived in the mountains of Colorado, every winter I'd put 500 lbs of concrete blocks in the back of my old 4x truck. I knew it wasn't a cure-all, but a little extra weight for traction sure helped me out of some tight spots. A storm like this, we'd stay home and watch movies.
I used 5 gallon water jugs w/ water, pallets, extra food, lighter, flash lights, tow chain, shovel, ax, blankets & clothes traveling the rez roads... survival is the game. 🏹🤔👍
How about 500 lbs. of extra fuel on board, plus chains, plus traction mats. And a 4 x with full lock up diffs. pulling a trailer with a D 4 caterpillar or snowcat, with winch and tilt deck.
As a person who lived in that area for over 23 years, it never ceases to amaze me that CHP and Caltrans can't just close the road as soon as a Blizzard Warning is in effect. It would be easier to clear the roads if it were open to local traffic only as has been done in the past.
Yup. I remember going up to the snow from southern California Beach. My boyfriend was doing doughty and we slid off the road and nearly froze to death. We had thin jackets, no gloves! He was from the upper Midwest snow belt too 😂! We snow camp, ski and backcountry skiing with backpacks. Still, we head for the hills at the last minute to see the snow and been in a few bad blizzards, you'd think we'd learn after 30 years!
@@GlareStarwop I'm from Reno. I KNOW this pass! Perhaps CA and NV schools should teach about the Donner Party. There's a good reason why this pass was named after them...
@jshound1508 they do teach about the donor party. But the eastern Sierra is a sharp climb to the summits, and easy to see the transition into the snowline. But the western Sierra is a long gradual climb. It's easier to get caught. Still, Californians handle weather than the east coast. Californians usually get a motel and few bottles of wine when 6 foot fall, where in New York, people are stranded in 18 inches of snow on flat land. Having boyfriend from the snow belt, I can say they are over confident and don't understand mountain weather. California is full of snow belt transplants. I think they are more excited about snow than us southern California's. It's even worse near the Oregon border than Donner Pass. I was backpacking on the pacific crest trail when 10 foot of snow fell over night. I went to bed in force winds and woke up to silence. My tent was buried in snow. I basically crawled out of the snow to hard rain and made it to a gold camp. That was Oct. 4th. Also, a lot of truckers now are from Mexico and don't speak English to get weather reports and don't know squat about blizzards.
CALDOT should ban tandem trailers, bobtails, and empty rigs before things get out of control. Every time I see one of these videos, I notice that the OTR trucks generally have chains on the outside tire of their duals - and they get stuck. The heavy duty tow trucks and snow plows that come to the rescue have chains on every single drive tire - and they get through.
I'm okay with some Darwin awards being handed out I hate how the government often punishes all of us for a few peoples stupidity and I dont think road workers should have to risk their lives for idiots.
@@patroberts5449 Ha ha ha! There have to be some children in this queue hearing the Donner Party story for the first time who will never look at their dad the same way again.
I’m 68 and have been driving since I was 16 and I’ve never seen so many cars and trucks stuck on flat ground with only a inch or 2 of snow on the ground are the new vehicles that unfit to drive I seen lots of them being towed out with one or more wheels locked and not turning. I’ve been thinking about trying to get a new vehicle for a while but after watching these and where there stuck I’m now thinking I’ll just keep my 96 Ford and my 1988 Jeep pickup they never had these problems driving anywhere ever
This is Subie country. AWD and some good sense & snow experience is what you need. Of course, _good sense_ means not going onto a notoriously difficult pass when you know a blizzard is coming. Still, if there was room to maneuver at all, I would have been creeping forward as long as there were breaks in the whiteout. If I was stuck, I would be very conservative about idling my engine trapped for who know how long. I always pack extra blankets and such in the car in case we get trapped in winter traffic. Best thing is to avoid it altogether.
...Of course, I saw a Subie get towed-out (in this video), so the cars aren't magic. I've been out in snow plenty of times, bit I avoid. And I especially avoid ice on hilly roads: it doesn't matter how good you are, you can't stop a vehicle sliding down a hill unless you bury it in a snowbank.
@@brettany_renee_blatchley I noticed the Subie being towed also and wondered why since the snow did not look that deep. Ice underneath? I've been driving Subarus for close to 40 years and as long as the snow wasn't over the bumper so it had to be pushed, I've gotten through. But even chains weren't helping the trucks so there must have been ice.
Donner Summit & Donner Lake are still in Northern California. I'm sure at Stateline, NV., Boomtown, and Reno they were going through the same Blizzard! It was down into Southern California and Southern Nevada. Gusty winds over 120, rainy, and lots of snow. 😮 There's more to come. Grapevine, CA (Interstate 5) was probably going through the same thing as Donner Summit. It's the Biggest storm to hit the Entire State of California and Nevada! 😱🌀❄️☔️⛈️⛄️
As a Californian all I can say is they dont listen. My question for someone in Georgia, is when will Georgia quit subjecting the rest of the US to MTG?
I always struggle to understand why people fail to take storm warnings seriously. Where did they think they were going? Even if the travel is work related it would have been possible to stop before they were stranded to get a motel.
Strange that these people are all caught in this storm. I’m thousands of miles away and I knew about it and was quite surprised at the amount of snow being predicted. I certainly would have stayed home considering the the possibility of being stuck for hours or longer in a vehicle in bad weather.
I remembered back either 1994 or 95, I was stucked on Donner Pass about six miles away from Donner Ski resort with five other of my Air Force buddies. We were returning back to Travis AFB after spending a day skiing at Squaw Valley and the snow started come down thick and heavy. The traffic stopped and did not move for six hours. We didn't have hardly any food except for bagof pretzels, but we never complained. The snowfall finally slowed down and people were getting out of their cars having snow ball fights or just walk. We ourselves passed the time quoting lines and doing impressions from the movie "Full Metal Jacket". The drive home took 9 hours for what is normally a 2 hours drive. It was still a great day for us.
Excellent reporting, right there with everyone. I love the 2 guys snow-shoing into the storm to enjoy it. Yeah, the wind. We had here in Utah, a lot of dust, gravel & small bushes whipping up onto the highways, pelting our cars. The rain & snow is coming in now, Saturday afternoon.
But, but, .... didn't you see what the IDIOT news anchor at ABC10 said at the end of their video ( California blizzard : feet of snow cause roads, resorts, businesses to) at the 10:00 part ? .." If you have to just take it very slow ".. (Bwahhaa 😂😂..) Another pot smoking idiot there folks
People were warned for days to stay off the road. I understand commercial trucking having to drive. I was a trucker for 25 years, but they were talking 6 to 10 feet of snow, this was predictable. Why the CHP didn't close this road is asinine. God help everyone up there.
Not just "Flat Landers" either, a lot of folks living "up on the hill" have a tendency to overestimate their experience with this kind of weather and end up in the same boat.
Can you imagine that this snow storm lasting for hours and you are stuck not being able to move! Your vehicle is going to run out of gas, there goes your heat! What the heck Sherlock!
Camping inside my Model Y when it’s upper 30’s outside, Camp Mode kept it 67 inside all night. Only used 6% of the battery. But yeah, I’d never be here.
Im a semi truck driver from Minneapolis and i had a load to Brisbane California so i have to take i80 up donners pass and ive never saw nothing like this my whole life. 12 feet of snow is unheard of and i thought it was fake news now im stuck seems like will be days before i can leave. Be careful u guys and if possible just dont travel until its safe
Our Church Group was planning to go down to Klamath Falls from Portland this weekend. I started watching the weather last week. When I set up Severe Weather Reports from the National Weather Survey- I KNEW- beyond a shadow of doubt- that I WAS NOT going to mess with that! We cancelled- EVERYTHING. Hotels, rental car- Event. It’s NOT worth it.😮😏🤷🏾♀️
In the 1800s a family named Donner went West, failed in use the designated route. The family was caught in a blizzard resulting in cannibalism. Some survived. Hence, Donner Pass.
After living not to far away from Donner Summit (120 miles, ) ,One lesson I learned the first winter ( Pine Grove) was when the snow is coming down like in the video (we had close to 5ft that winter) You hunkered down and stayed home. No questions asked. From the video, you could say for "obvious reasons".
I lived in Truckee, back in the 70's. Everyone knew not to bother with Donner Pass, when a storm was coming. There was no errand that important, that it couldn't wait. Just relax by the fire, and enjoy the fact that you're not trying to drive in it. In 6-12 hours, the storm would be done, and the road would be passable again (though likely slow and slushy). Wait 24 hours, and the road would be clear and dry.
Born in Truckee. Hi from Mammoth. You know most of the people traveling over dinner are not locals right? And as I keep saying to people making snarky comments about Californians, it's an INTERSTATE!
Is it really not allowed to have studded tires on your car in the winter time in the US? This pretty much looks like one of the winterstorms we get over here every year and if this is the new normal down south in the world I strongly recommend that that gets a good thinking over. It gets worse up her in the north of Europe too. This year we had it very cold, in some places north in Sweden round - 40 celcius.
Personally I would NEVER consider taking an all electric vehicle into these potential conditions! Keep them for urban areas or good weather seasons. At least with gas someone can through a gallon or two in the tank and you could stay warm!
I lived right on Donner Lake. I'm going to post on my FB for people to get their Snowmobiles and go rescue people from their cars. They are never gonna get off that mountain
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Be careful out there folks.
I think the truckers at least thought chaining up would work. Surely NOT. At least they have a cab to stay warm, etc. But the passenger cars have NO business there!!! So they have to run fuel to stay warm, no food or toilet!! WTH is wrong with these idiots!! 😮😮😮
Oof. The state snowplow/grader towing the semi says it all.
man, i used to drive a semi over that route and ive never seen it that bad.
With all the warnings that this storm was coming, why are there so many morons out on the road? Being stranded would be a nightmare. 😢
You have to remember what state this is filmed in...
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possibly need ten days of rations if on top of pass...
Skiers gotta be the first one to lay tracks on fresh powder!
Remember the Donner party. Things have not changed much.
If there were a warning about a tidal wave - these people would line the shores, waiting to see it.
No doubt, while filming it for the "Gram". 😂🤡
Hey, I lived in California on the strand (Cornado), and people got coolers and lounge chairs to have a party on the beach, to watch the tiddle wave come in. I evacuated to higher ground and fortunately for the idiots it did not happen but was out in the ocean. Back in the early 80's after Alaska had an earth quack. People need protected from themselves. In Florida people have hurricane parties, with kids. Get drunk and party during it. Sad world we live in sometimes.
@@leem200
I got drunk during Irma and Ian but that's only because I work in a hospital and have to stay. Trust me, getting drunk makes it go by faster.
LOL so true and so funny
Now that's funny, but true
Everyone should have known about this blizzard, why would they even think it was OK to go up there? And the trucking industry should never have put their drivers in harms way.
The trucks are what ticks me off the most here. Not only are they more likely to get stuck, but once they are they are much more difficult to get moving again. As far as regular passengers they should have no less than awd/4wd with snow tires on every wheel. Tires chains can malfunction. They should also have experience driving uphill in deep snow, I don't care about how much snow you get in the midwest with ZERO hills to navigate, they change the game quite a bit. EDIT: I didn't mean don't use chains also, but I don't trust only using them on a car that is otherwise no good in the snow.
Agreed, trucking companies & even private operators should be fined heavily if they are on the road. Get your employee a room, tell them to sit it out and you will cover them until it is over.
So, a little fun fact, drivers are absolutely in control of shutting down if conditions are bad and there's nothing a company could do about it. Even if the company retaliates, which they're not allowed to do, the driver can sue the company.
The FMCSA rule book clearly states that a driver can shut down in bad weather and there's nothing the company can do about it.@@efpwdude
@@DigitalHaze65536Traffic should have been stopped at Auburn California which is elevation 1,234. Forty five years driving in Colorado has taught me lessons in driving on snow covered roads. Studded and sipped tires help. Winter tires help. The two most important factors are slow down and always keep your momentum. In my big rig I chain all 8 drive tires. My preferred strategy is stay home or park in Denver until the road is plowed. Psychologically the best strategy is be humble and realize nature is in control- not you. Hope you are well and safe. Good comment.
@@rayray4192 Thank you. I'm just in the hills of Pennsylvania but I'm over 50 years old so I've seen the worst of what we get. A 500' vertical hill (900'asl) is nothing compared to out west, but it's enough to teach how to drive up a hill.
They do a terrible job of plowing so I've had to drive a few miles up with 8-12" of snow on the road, you can "get by" with awd with all season tires here, but if you have to stop you will get stuck. I managed to get it going again on my own but I'm getting too old for that stress, I have a 4wd 4Runner with snow rated tires now.
I've always driven slow when conditions are bad, even if you can go you have to be able to stop for something unexpected. Our guard rail is dented 100% of the way from cars smacking into it lol.
excellent raw footage, no annoying background music. thanks!
Thank you and thanks for watching.
@@WxChasing some of this footage is from Jonathan petralamas channel am I wrong?
Or narrator!
Yes, Jonathan petramala and I work together. We end up using some if the same shots but try to make sure our channels are still quite different.
@@WxChasing good stuff
Here's the thing. When the Weatherman says its gonna Snow TEN FEET in the Sierras, you DO NOT try to go over Donner Summit for ANY reason.I lived in Truckee for several years and used to assist a Tow Truck driver on Donner Summit back in the 80s. One time we stayed on the Summit for 48 hours straight during a bad storm. I have some wild stories I could tell you but not enough room here to tell them.
@@sheilaharrison8547 Maybe someday I will.👍👍
This would be the kind of book I would buy at the gas station in the area...this and ghost stories.
I feel sorry for the Trucker’s. It’s their job to drive, but not in this kind of weather. I really don’t understand the cars. Insane.
@@georgespalding7640 You ought to do that.
The packies go anyway- and get stuck
They were warned and so many road workers and emergency personnel have to risk their lives for them. Wretched and selfish.
Yes, idiots. I would let them know. They are on their own.
a lot of people work in hospitals, care facilities, mail facilities, law enforcement, and local/federal government operations. their work doesn't pause for weather.
@@eyeseverywhere8246 nature is in control no matter your job.
@eyeseverywhere8246 they don't drive teslas that get stuck and stranded blocking the road. We drive 4x4s with studded tires and could drive through 3 feet of powder and we live up here and are used to it. These people are hopeless.
@@rayray4192 HAARP and Nexrad is in control.
What person hears blizzard Donner Pass and *wants* to go?! Does anyone remember why it’s called Donner Pass?
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Yeah, when that group got stranded there, and the only takeout food available was Donner Kebabs.
Now that I think about it, what an insult too. 😂 Haha, we made it to gold country and we’re voluntarily coming back to ski. 🤦♀️
Considering the caliber of California schools. NO
@@fredsanford9224 Real 💯 🤦♀️
10+ feet of snow predicted in the mountains. Honey, lets take the kids up to the ski lodge in our Tesla 3. We should be fine.
When I went 2 years ago it was worse than this and the Tesla 3s I saw were going on snow like nothing
@@lixsajoe yup honestly the vehicle barley matters compared to the tires. Tesla or any other awd car with blizzaks or hakkapeliittas will run rings around the most lifted 4x4 with MT or even 3pmsf AT tires on a hillclimb road. The big aggressive blocks on at and mt tires that work great on mud are actually not very helpful on snow and ice.
😂 right!
No. Don't want your kids te get buried alive in the snow ❄️😢
Said so many stupid people!!!!
A huge Thank You to CHP and CalTrans for all your heroic efforts and hard work getting all these people out! I cannot believe how many people actually thought it was a good idea to go through Donner Pass when a blizzard was forcast!
If you are one of the ones who get/got stuck in this, it's on you. You knew a good 36 hrs beforehand that this was coming. Darwin award to all of you.
For real 😂
It really puts into perspective the nightmare the Donner party went through in that area. Imagine traveling in covered wagons, without benefit of plows, emergency vehicles, lights, heat etc.
Agree , it just blows my mind the determination,grit, and faith they must of had to perserve in those conditions .
Yup!
And they had no fancy water proof clothing or high tech footwear, and they were basically breaking trail as they proceeded along, moving rocks,trees and brush in their paths.
98.9% of our soft society wouldn’t have lasted a day back then.
@@FIGGY65 maybe. But they weren't required to go. (The Donner-Reed party)
Well at least they won't have to worry about running out of food.
California Dreaming... On such a winters day!!!!
Stopped into a church we saw along the way.
Got down on my knees and I began to pray.@@t0manderson571
I got down on my knees and I began to pray
Why are so many people out driving in this predicted brutal blizzard?
Very good question! I would think the only ones out would be the truckers. If they have a load to take somewhere I guess they have no option but to try to make it through. All the others? I saw the prediction of this storm, and advisories for drivers not to drive through it days ago, and I'm thousands of miles away, so why did they chance traveling there?
They are crazy.
"How bad could it be anyway?" to "I have places to be!" to "it will be fine..."
people are amazing at telling themselves all sort of bs and believing it
Today's generation of KaliFornians, they thought it was Miami Beach.
@@gparsons320not true at all for the truckers. Most of them have the option to shut down instead of trying to get thru these situations. We have tire chains but not to get thru these situations but to get out of them. I can't speak for UPS, FedEx and those type of companies but the long haul drivers can shutdown before hand. Headed west we usually stop in the Reno/sparks area until the storm passes and the roads are clear. East bound we stop anywhere before 80 starts going up to Donner pass. All these big rigs ur seeing trying to continue on 80 and getting stuck in traffic, idk what to tell you. If it's me I'm parked at the Petro or TA in Reno and waiting it out. Their reasoning is probably that they have a delivery to make which is going be late anyways or they didn't know it was going to be this bad but it was forecasted days ahead of time. And some of them are just super truckers who aren't bigger than mother nature herself. And besides the hwy signs say the hwy is closed ahead so you can only go as far as the traffic jam.
Here in Norway, they usually close the main roads over the mountains between east and west when a blizzard is expected.
Here in the States, we are really, really stupid. Really.
This is a stupid country
😂 so true😂
Present day California is completely mismanaged by idiots who are pretending to be competent.
Here, people will think their right to be dumb is violated. Freedom of stupidity is so important here.
It's simply amazing not a single person in this mess knew the weather was going to be bad. If we only had a way to get the message to the public, like some kind of broadcast or perhaps a portable wireless phone that could tell you or maybe even a company that would provide weather updates 24 hours a day. Maybe someday we'll have those things.
When I lived in the mountains of Colorado, every winter I'd put 500 lbs of concrete blocks in the back of my old 4x truck. I knew it wasn't a cure-all, but a little extra weight for traction sure helped me out of some tight spots. A storm like this, we'd stay home and watch movies.
Exactly! I'm from Flagstaff, AZ. Unprepared people from Phoenix would often get stuck and block the highway, risking their lives.
I used 5 gallon water jugs w/ water, pallets, extra food, lighter, flash lights, tow chain, shovel, ax, blankets & clothes traveling the rez roads... survival is the game. 🏹🤔👍
Ditto. + A Handyman™ jack for drifts.
How about 500 lbs. of extra fuel on board, plus chains, plus traction mats. And a 4 x with full lock up diffs. pulling a trailer with a D 4 caterpillar or snowcat, with winch and tilt deck.
Always heard cement blocks were illegal, projectiles in an accident.
As a person who lived in that area for over 23 years, it never ceases to amaze me that CHP and Caltrans can't just close the road as soon as a Blizzard Warning is in effect. It would be easier to clear the roads if it were open to local traffic only as has been done in the past.
I live in KS and they close road for less severe conditions. I hope and pray that people don't die up there.
@@arcticablueI wonder how long this is supposed to last?
Capitalism is the short answer.
Do you realize how much freight travels on Interstate 80?
@@seeharvester Do you realize how much freight is NOT moving through Donnor Pass on I80?
Those people on Donner pass aren't stranded. They chose to take an adventure and found one!!
And are risking the lives of road workers in the process.
🤣
The history of The Donner party and that Pass would have kept me away for sure.
Hoping it doesn't end the same way as it did then!
The trick is to not sit still.
😂
That is exactly what I was thinking!
Right?!
I have been over Donner's Pass and I would never try to travel it in a snow storm like this.
Seriously people what were you thinking!
No "thinking" was involved.
Thank you CatTrans/CHP and all of the support people who work tirelessly through the night.
I guarentee that 99.8% of those folks are absolutley NOT prepared for this!
Not folks, idiots
I was just wondering that. What supplies do they have in their cars to prepare for extreme cold for hours and maybe overnight.
Yup. I remember going up to the snow from southern California Beach. My boyfriend was doing doughty and we slid off the road and nearly froze to death. We had thin jackets, no gloves! He was from the upper Midwest snow belt too 😂!
We snow camp, ski and backcountry skiing with backpacks. Still, we head for the hills at the last minute to see the snow and been in a few bad blizzards, you'd think we'd learn after 30 years!
@@GlareStarwop I'm from Reno. I KNOW this pass! Perhaps CA and NV schools should teach about the Donner Party. There's a good reason why this pass was named after them...
@jshound1508 they do teach about the donor party. But the eastern Sierra is a sharp climb to the summits, and easy to see the transition into the snowline.
But the western Sierra is a long gradual climb. It's easier to get caught.
Still, Californians handle weather than the east coast. Californians usually get a motel and few bottles of wine when 6 foot fall, where in New York, people are stranded in 18 inches of snow on flat land.
Having boyfriend from the snow belt, I can say they are over confident and don't understand mountain weather. California is full of snow belt transplants. I think they are more excited about snow than us southern California's.
It's even worse near the Oregon border than Donner Pass. I was backpacking on the pacific crest trail when 10 foot of snow fell over night. I went to bed in force winds and woke up to silence. My tent was buried in snow. I basically crawled out of the snow to hard rain and made it to a gold camp. That was Oct. 4th.
Also, a lot of truckers now are from Mexico and don't speak English to get weather reports and don't know squat about blizzards.
Thank you truckers be safe take your time
That’s crazy. Single axle tractors attempting to pull tandem trailers over a pass leading into a forecasted blizzard.
CALDOT should ban tandem trailers, bobtails, and empty rigs before things get out of control. Every time I see one of these videos, I notice that the OTR trucks generally have chains on the outside tire of their duals - and they get stuck. The heavy duty tow trucks and snow plows that come to the rescue have chains on every single drive tire - and they get through.
Correction:
CalTrans.
The law is on the books already single drive trucks can only pull one trailer & not over 30' in length!!
No worries, CHP will find them in the Spring...
Fake news clips, the snow is less than foot at this time.. Hype for ratings.
And write them a ticket for blocking the road,
Bears will.
They will smell the rotting corpses in the spring thaw from miles away.
Bears are very hungry in the spring.
I’m good with that!
I'm okay with some Darwin awards being handed out I hate how the government often punishes all of us for a few peoples stupidity and I dont think road workers should have to risk their lives for idiots.
Why would anyone travel after all those warnings
Honey, pack up the kids , we're taking a ride through the Donner. It'll be fine! 😮
Said Mr Reed and Mr Donner……
@@patroberts5449 A fine example of men leading and protecting women.
@@yosemite735 Yes and for sure if you ask directions get them from another guy who’s never even been that way!😜
@@patroberts5449 Ha ha ha! There have to be some children in this queue hearing the Donner Party story for the first time who will never look at their dad the same way again.
😂
I’m 68 and have been driving since I was 16 and I’ve never seen so many cars and trucks stuck on flat ground with only a inch or 2 of snow on the ground are the new vehicles that unfit to drive I seen lots of them being towed out with one or more wheels locked and not turning. I’ve been thinking about trying to get a new vehicle for a while but after watching these and where there stuck I’m now thinking I’ll just keep my 96 Ford and my 1988 Jeep pickup they never had these problems driving anywhere ever
This is Subie country. AWD and some good sense & snow experience is what you need. Of course, _good sense_ means not going onto a notoriously difficult pass when you know a blizzard is coming. Still, if there was room to maneuver at all, I would have been creeping forward as long as there were breaks in the whiteout. If I was stuck, I would be very conservative about idling my engine trapped for who know how long. I always pack extra blankets and such in the car in case we get trapped in winter traffic. Best thing is to avoid it altogether.
...Of course, I saw a Subie get towed-out (in this video), so the cars aren't magic.
I've been out in snow plenty of times, bit I avoid. And I especially avoid ice on hilly roads: it doesn't matter how good you are, you can't stop a vehicle sliding down a hill unless you bury it in a snowbank.
@@brettany_renee_blatchley I noticed the Subie being towed also and wondered why since the snow did not look that deep. Ice underneath? I've been driving Subarus for close to 40 years and as long as the snow wasn't over the bumper so it had to be pushed, I've gotten through.
But even chains weren't helping the trucks so there must have been ice.
I was thinking the same thing!!!
What were Califonians thinking? This is one of the worst snowstorms in Donner summit history 115MPH winds really!
As forest sump would say: STUPID IS; AS STUPID DOES.
Again. Flatlanders who don't know how to drive in the mountains --- or when NOT to drive in the mountains.
Donner Summit & Donner Lake are still in Northern California. I'm sure at Stateline, NV., Boomtown, and Reno they were going through the same Blizzard! It was down into Southern California and Southern Nevada. Gusty winds over 120, rainy, and lots of snow. 😮 There's more to come. Grapevine, CA (Interstate 5) was probably going through the same thing as Donner Summit. It's the Biggest storm to hit the Entire State of California and Nevada! 😱🌀❄️☔️⛈️⛄️
who says these are californians? most are long haul truckers and anyone could be in those small cars on their way to visit california.
@@maryw.5431 grapevine is fine. lol
GREAT JOB FILMING! THIS VIDEO SAYS IT ALL!
i am in Ga and i knew this storm was coming therefore they had to know this was coming why are they out there
Amen, been hearing about it for five days here in GA! These are stupid stupid people.
Darwin is working his magic again! Just stupid!
As a Californian all I can say is they dont listen. My question for someone in Georgia, is when will Georgia quit subjecting the rest of the US to MTG?
I always struggle to understand why people fail to take storm warnings seriously. Where did they think they were going? Even if the travel is work related it would have been possible to stop before they were stranded to get a motel.
You can't fix dumb
Quite simple really, "You can't fix STUPID!" With ALL the warnings issued, they ALL should be left to figure it out on their own!!!"
You know that thing, common sense? A lot of people have common stupidity…..
Watching this video and smh!
Because people think they're ABOVE something happening to them; 'I can do what I want with no consequences' IDIOTS
Thanks!
Thank you Irishfiregirl!
Very good news for California indeed. California needed these snow to fill their lakes.
Newsome will just flush it out to sea to save a fish parasite.
Dont underestimate donner pass.
Look at that wind can you imagine what the pioneers felt crossing it
They would have been smart enough to stay put until it passed.
Stranded
they had more sense, and guts.
Gee a blizzard at Donnor Pass, history repeats itself. I hope the people have extra food, water, and blankets in their cars.
I’m sure they don’t
I hope you two get shelter and stay safe?!
Thanks for the video. I enjoy the scenery from home.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for your work, Brandon. This looks like an unfortunate mess! Good luck & be safe out there!
Strange that these people are all caught in this storm. I’m thousands of miles away and I knew about it and was quite surprised at the amount of snow being predicted. I certainly would have stayed home considering the the possibility of being stuck for hours or longer in a vehicle in bad weather.
Life happens, forecasts change, not everyone is you.
Come on!!!! not everyone is as smart as us is what you meant to say. These people are idiots!
@Timberland1963 -
Dumb comment. The world in which most people live is dynamic - maybe your world is static.
@@flickwtchr Nature has a way of eliminating the weak minded, ill prepared.
@@AnyRain-l8h donner pass is closed. these guys are stuck at the summit.
I saw this movie...doesn't end well.
😂😂
Stranded on Donner Pass you say? And that's when the cannibalism started!
Not applicable when everyone is 50 lbs overweight. There lots of calories in fat.
It was a last podcast on the left reference lol
Irony at its best
😂
In this case everyone would break into the semis & get the food inside.
I remembered back either 1994 or 95, I was stucked on Donner Pass about six miles away from Donner Ski resort with five other of my Air Force buddies. We were returning back to Travis AFB after spending a day skiing at Squaw Valley and the snow started come down thick and heavy. The traffic stopped and did not move for six hours. We didn't have hardly any food except for bagof pretzels, but we never complained. The snowfall finally slowed down and people were getting out of their cars having snow ball fights or just walk. We ourselves passed the time quoting lines and doing impressions from the movie "Full Metal Jacket". The drive home took 9 hours for what is normally a 2 hours drive. It was still a great day for us.
Amazing point of view
Excellent reporting, right there with everyone. I love the 2 guys snow-shoing into the storm to enjoy it. Yeah, the wind. We had here in Utah, a lot of dust, gravel & small bushes whipping up onto the highways, pelting our cars. The rain & snow is coming in now, Saturday afternoon.
Glad you enjoyed it longlife!
Just FYI you're not supposed to go up into the mountains during the worst snowstorm in history.
Unless you want to become Donner party V2
But, but, .... didn't you see what the IDIOT news anchor at ABC10 said at the end of their video ( California blizzard : feet of snow cause roads, resorts, businesses to) at the 10:00 part ? .." If you have to just take it very slow ".. (Bwahhaa 😂😂..) Another pot smoking idiot there folks
u mean down the mountains. lol. we're not stuck on this side of the pass.
@@cerebrumexcrement I said what I mean and I mean what I said
Great footage.
People were warned for days to stay off the road. I understand commercial trucking having to drive. I was a trucker for 25 years, but they were talking 6 to 10 feet of snow, this was predictable. Why the CHP didn't close this road is asinine. God help everyone up there.
theyll be fine. its not that scary.
Increadible. Awesome to see how they manage this crazy deadly weather. Thanks for this awesome reporting.
Flat landers never fail to amuse and do the opposite of what is advised.
Like people who know a hurricanes coming but wait til the end to drive away. Then "TRAFFIC JAM"!
Y'argh, ye land lubbers ...
no excuse. they should all be fined.
Not just "Flat Landers" either, a lot of folks living "up on the hill" have a tendency to overestimate their experience with this kind of weather and end up in the same boat.
Following the Pied Piper as usual.
Can you imagine that this snow storm lasting for hours and you are stuck not being able to move! Your vehicle is going to run out of gas, there goes your heat! What the heck Sherlock!
Yes. The Donner Pass locals call it hitting the lottery .
Sure hope all the Tesla drivers brought along their gas fired generators to keep their cars charged so they can run their heaters.
Yes I made that comment to.
Cars run out of gas and ev's can run their heaters without running their engines. The question is why would anyone drive in these condition.
It should be rain with all this global warming
😂😂👍👍
Camping inside my Model Y when it’s upper 30’s outside, Camp Mode kept it 67 inside all night. Only used 6% of the battery. But yeah, I’d never be here.
Im a semi truck driver from Minneapolis and i had a load to Brisbane California so i have to take i80 up donners pass and ive never saw nothing like this my whole life. 12 feet of snow is unheard of and i thought it was fake news now im stuck seems like will be days before i can leave. Be careful u guys and if possible just dont travel until its safe
God.bless you. Jesus saves
Our Church Group was planning to go down to Klamath Falls from Portland this weekend. I started watching the weather last week. When I set up Severe Weather Reports from the National Weather Survey- I KNEW- beyond a shadow of doubt- that I WAS NOT going to mess with that! We cancelled- EVERYTHING. Hotels, rental car- Event. It’s NOT worth it.😮😏🤷🏾♀️
God bless you. Jesus saves
Why is it called Donner Pass again? 😂❄️💀
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@@augustwest1895CRINGE!😮😮😮
In the 1800s a family named Donner went West, failed in use the designated route. The family was caught in a blizzard resulting in cannibalism. Some survived. Hence, Donner Pass.
Cause they ate their friends for donner.
Cause sometimes it don't Donner on ya tell your there.
canadian walks by wearing a bathing suit.
Hilarious, shorts and t shirt weather for sure.
Nope Not Even Canadians would be out in this , are you kidding
Funny funny people can be so stupid
Drinking a Molson's, eh?
🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦😂
Gotta love those running vehicles going nowhere.
until they run out of fuel!
@@nevadaboy9769and the tow driver makes thousands those nights.
@t0manderson571 how much Money would you charge to go up there and pull idiots out all day and night?
😂 right? How come we never see the road blocking eco protestors in these conditions?🎉
@@foffndy666 They’re all in their cars going skiing! 🤣 or stuck in their Teslas on “pet mode” to stay warm. 😂
After living not to far away from Donner Summit (120 miles, ) ,One lesson I learned the first winter ( Pine Grove) was when the snow is coming down like in the video (we had close to 5ft that winter) You hunkered down and stayed home. No questions asked. From the video, you could say for "obvious reasons".
Amen. God bless you. Jesus saves
Endtimes. Alot of.people are not that smart or use common.sense anymore! God bless you. Jesus saves!
The Donner pass living up to its name.
Great coverage
In the 60s and 70s, we avoided Donner Pass in blizzards!
That was before the instant information age, ironically.
Why are people on the road.😮
I lived in Truckee, back in the 70's. Everyone knew not to bother with Donner Pass, when a storm was coming. There was no errand that important, that it couldn't wait. Just relax by the fire, and enjoy the fact that you're not trying to drive in it. In 6-12 hours, the storm would be done, and the road would be passable again (though likely slow and slushy). Wait 24 hours, and the road would be clear and dry.
Born in Truckee.
Hi from Mammoth.
You know most of the people traveling over dinner are not locals right?
And as I keep saying to people making snarky comments about Californians, it's an INTERSTATE!
Amen. God bless you. Jesus saves
Amazing! What were the temps and wind speed?
from 120-65 mph
This is great at least we are not having anonymous wildfires like Texas. Waiting here in Arizona for more moisture in the our mountains.
🙏🙏🙏
They must be getting hungry.
Plenty of lady fingers to go around.
And sleepy😊
Is it really not allowed to have studded tires on your car in the winter time in the US? This pretty much looks like one of the winterstorms we get over here every year and if this is the new normal down south in the world I strongly recommend that that gets a good thinking over. It gets worse up her in the north of Europe too. This year we had it very cold, in some places north in Sweden round - 40 celcius.
I used to use a set every year but seems the big storms are no longer hitting Ohio. Winters here are getting warmer and warmer.
March coming in like a lion
More like a polar bear 😅
Personally I would NEVER consider taking an all electric vehicle into these potential conditions! Keep them for urban areas or good weather seasons. At least with gas someone can through a gallon or two in the tank and you could stay warm!
Assuming carbon monoxide doesn’t kill them… happens a lot during snowstorms with snow jammimg tailpipe.
@@marcpikas2859 I would thank that is a legitimate concern!
@@patroberts5449I prefer to leave candles/matches in my emergency kit along with trailmix and a wool blanket. Never had to use any but the trailmix 😁
Looks like a combination of fun and misery. Good luck guys.
Wait, are you telling us that it's possible to get stranded at Donner Pass during a blizzard? Who could have ever predicted that?
There’s just no precedent. Hey, weren’t there two more in your party earlier when you were complaining about hunger pangs?
I subscribed. Love the content and quality! Thanks much!
Thanks for the sub!
As a Canadian, sometimes you just need to just stay home!
Ah hear they got some good eating up in them hills
Whohaaa!!
How’s those ev’s doin in that mess?!!?Make all those trucks ev’s and have fun with that!
So scary!!!! I hope everyone made it out safely!
What were they doing up there when the warning went out???
Chasing the Dream?
Where are all the EVs?
Lmao!!!🤣
Where is the Governer with his electric limo.
I lived right on Donner Lake. I'm going to post on my FB for people to get their Snowmobiles and go rescue people from their cars. They are never gonna get off that mountain
You mean rescue People,,,, right?????
I just subscribed. This is great, thank you
Those huge snow plows with snow blowers on top are awesome. First time I’ve seen them. Were they built for mountain storms?
They've been in use in North Lake Tahoe area for a long time; came in handy for the storm of the decade in Dec.'96.
@@marymacdonald2379 I can see how handy they would be with deep snow on country roads. Thanks for responding!
Thank you WX❤
I had a load to go towards Sacramento I'm glad my company postponed it for a couple of days
People make bad choices sometimes. Let’s pray for their safety and the people working to get them through.
Love from Michigan. ❤ Weirdly it’s been like a big Fall for us. Stay safe and take care of each other.
Nice video
From 🇨🇦, enjoy
Amazing how slippery it is. Even with full chains on all drive tires, still can't move.
I love Winter, my favorite time of year!!!!! A snowstorm, how beautiful!!!!! It's so peaceful..... Except on the roads... 🥶🥶❄️❄️❄️...
My sentiments exactly!! Love snow!!❤
I wonder how long it took to clear this mess?
Wow that was GOOD footage of HWY 80 ..... Glad I'm not up there at Tahoe
Their all there for the next Donner dinner party!
THEY WANTED SNOW THEY GOT SNOW !!!!✝☦✝
Love the coverage, but what on earh were they thinking?... I live in GA and I knew nobody should be on these roads geez
"But it's all-wheel drive!!!! 😢😢😢".
Whatabunchamaroons!
I was always amazed that no matter how bad the weather, dispatchers will send you out to deal with it.
Watching this from the East Bay where we are getting a hecka buncha rain and I have been cold all day. Now I feel oh so much toastier!