"Why isn't my store selling products?" "Well the store next door sells a few things you don't have, maybe you should add some of that to your store" "Absolutely not"
not just that .... he specifically said , we got issue getting young women/girls attend those games....CC come and not only you got those you get young boys too! CC is their wish come true as business and they do everything they can to push her and the fans out!
Bingo ...Only married men pay for things they don't really like---and ironically the party that they're buying said thing for, can't even name 3 wnba players.
WNBA players don't realize how right that Bill Burr was when he said that women would rather pay to watch women tear each other down in reality shows, and buy their products. Than they would pay to watch women come together as a team, to accomplish a common goal. That's why the Kardashians are making billions.
Women likes to watch men compete because strong men provides the best offspring and therefore men compete. Women on the other hand has never competed with each other like men does , men compete to propagate, women compete to...whatever.
Though this may hold SOME weight in certain avenues it’s just the fact that the WNBA is boring and the players(mostly owners) are too stubborn to lower the rims. Even then lady’s just aren’t as athletic as their male counter parts which inherently will gather less attention. But combat sports and table or track sports are different. Both genders are able to do them without changes or stuff like that. Some people men included would happily watch the WUFC over a men’s basketball game. WNBA is just not it is all
@@ENLIL100 Women's softball and volleyball are far more exciting to watch because of the way that they compete against each other. Yet they don't get paid at all, to have their own leagues, how messed up is that?
Crazy that they’re complaining about money, while they’re getting 6 figures a year to play 32 games. They get to play their favorite sport for an excellent salary, and they barely have to play any games. They’re incredibly lucky to be making any money
They are complaining about their pay, and they have never been profitable in 28 years. The NBA foots the bills for the league. They lose about 10 million a year.
The NBA is stuck with them. And they will never cut off the WNBA because if they do that league will scream racism and sexism and blah blah blah. The reasons why the WNBA is not doing well are obvious yet their player's don't wanna hear it.
As a father of 2 daughters that love basketball I can honestly say that if these WNBA players seriously cared about aspiring young female players, they would stop crying for equality like victims and start pushing for equity. This would begin with the WNBA lowering the rim to 9ft. This is no different than having smaller balls for smaller hands…
Also 75% of the players are masculine LGBT chicks. Who wants watch a bunch of women chest bumping, wearing baggy clothes and pretending to be men? The girls also get their attitudes from 🍆 envy. Their pride gets in the way.
They need to gain female viewers and fans and stop expecting men to pick up the tab for them. You could lower the rim to 5 ft and no one would give a single shit. Women don’t watch at the same levels men watch sports and therefore any bullshit changes you make to the sport is only to convince men to watch. That’s the problem. If women don’t want to support and spend their money on female sports than why bitch and moan about a gap and expect men to close the gap or cater to men to make the sport worth watching? It’s so easy to understand.
For real like honestly getting paid $200,000 for 30 games is pretty nice especially when I know my companies losing money and then if you’re a bench warmer cool, you’re getting paid a quick 100,000 to do nothing but practice. Honestly it’s ridiculous this would be a completely different story if they were actually having people coming to their games and it was a good product but they talk about revenue dude there is no revenue to share 😂
Because society has told them there equal they wanna be men make it basketball for women they try to play it like men lower the hoop is a great suggestion
No way; lowering the rim would throw everything off...it's 10 feet at every level from the very start. Shrink the ball another inch in circumference instead.
That's not it. The current players don't want that, because they'll have to relearn. One of the players even admitted this. And they know they can't relearn, because their intelligence level is... low.
@JohnSmith-zw8vp Nah, it's an ego/pride thing. They're pro athletes, meaning the best women in the world at what they do, and people are telling them they're still not good enough. Their response is basically an "F U", which is honestly understandable, but not at all constructive.
I sat down and watched a WNBA game recently. 5 minutes into the game I felt like I was watching a freshman boys high school game. I forced myself to watch all of it. It was brutal! Never again!
Wnba players claiming to be underpaid is no different than me complaining I'm an underpaid golfer, even though I'm a 20 handicapper whom zero people pay to watch. They literally don't understand they are entertainers.
Dude I'd totally pay to watch you play 18. I'll pay the green fees and cart fees and hack up the course with you. I'm probably a 25 handicap so I won't slow you down much.
Imagine a restaurant serving only one kind of dish that sells poorly even after 10 years, and then refuse to change the menu because it would "take time to adjust".
Women need to support the WNBA. The league also need to add more teams, increase the roster sizes, guarantee rookie contracts. Get better TV deals. Market the players better.
I tune into professional sports to see athletes do things I can’t do. I dunked for the first time at age 15. I played higher level basketball than the wnba. I have no real reason to watch subpar athletes unless it is my own kids in Junior high
They need to play European style or Princeton bball.. No one wants to see Ellen Iverson or girls dunk, you know those dunks are gone be ugly af too.. Make great passes smart plays great shooting... Don't play like men
4 years ago, when my son was in 8th grade his gold level AAU team played the local HS girls Varsity team who went to the state semi-finals here in California. They played half the quarters with the full sized ball and half with the women's ball. The 8th grade boys won the standard clock game 114 to 17. This includes the fact that the boys were no longer allowed to fast break after the first quarter. They also basically goofed around and loosened the D in the second half, where the girls scored nearly all of their 17 points.
Being able to dunk is not a skill. The NBA is full of flying clowns that do not know how to play basketball. Drafted on potential rather than talent. Its trash.
Why do you think its easier to score in the NBA than in Europe or a place like Australia? Hint - its not just the dumbed down NBA rules that promote scoring - its the fact that typical NBA players are dumb low IQ and unskilled flying clowns that do not know how to play basketball... Ever seen Shaqtin a Fool?
people arent equals and men and women arent equals either. we can do different things. men and women arent supposed to do the same shit. no mother can be a father and no father is a mother also. womens sports looks childish even compared to college mens basketball
There is no wage gap. A "wage gap" implies that different employees/workers/contractors of the same or similar employer are paid differently to do the same job despite having equal skills, qualifications, and experience, and producing similar results.
Plus the culture of the WNBA sucks. No one wants to support an organization that is spoon fed money because they can’t fustian themselves. No one wants to support a buncha dike-ish women who hate their own country. They need an attitude adjustment. I’d love to get paid half a million for playing a sport I love.
As compared to other women. Wait until the first player willing to go trans decides they would rather be the biggest fish in a pond full of minnows than a minnow in pond of sharks.
Notice the wording she uses. "I don't GET a dime." Rather than "I don't EARN a dime." WNBA has been subsidized since day one and has never made a net profit.
It's not up to the male players of the nba to be on the hook for the women's pay gap. The current nba players are getting paid because of the revenue that they bring in. Based on equality, wnba players should also want their pay based on the revenue that they bring in.
Well said, except I would change "pay gap" to "profit margins". The WNBA players want equal revenue shares, but this isn't possible and is a bit misleading because profit and revenue are very different. The NBA makes so much revenue that despite their players getting ~50% of it, the owners still profit. The wnba doesn't have more money to give because it isn't even making a profit. It's all about the profit margin.
Women want equality, but they won't protest for plumbers, construction workers, electricians to make their workforce 50% female. WNBA is basically a welfare league eating off the crumbs of a spare couple million to support their league provided by the NBA
For real and that dude is literally a legendary coach for UConn. You know the most successful women’s basketball program ever and he keeps it real like they have to realize this is a product, not a sport I mean look at the NFL and NBA they do a lot of rule changes that benefits scoring, because generally people like watching high score games for the Casual audience would enjoy higher scoring games I mean that’s why when NBA players play FIBA is a completely different game because one was made to be more enjoying all the others just purely the sport and I think it’s ridiculous of these chicks with a smaller ball of shorter three-point line Ellis 30 game season think having a 9 foot rim is the worst thing ever 😂
Though I do have to point out that this video implies that Geno was her coach. She went to Baylor, and Kim Mulkey was her coach. Getting that woman to say anything about Griner is like trying to get blood out of a stone.
What a line, leave it to Gino to give em a dose of reality. I'm actually impressed at how well the NBA players responded, they could've gone completely nuts on her and instead they just quietly smirked and called her delusional.. Which she is...
If the WNBA always wants to complain about the NBA, then the NBA should just withdraw all financial support from the WNBA, and let them run 100% of their own basketball league. That way they can determine their own fate, and distribute the revenue any way they see fit. I'm not sure how long they would last given that they have been losing money for the past 26 years.
I'm sure they wouldn't last half a WNBA season before they're playing for free in a public park, and it won't be in the most popular public park either
Nobody needs science to explain the basketball pay gap. Just a rudimentary understanding of economics. Something like this: - WNBA players are at approximately the same skill and athleticism level as middle school boys. - Nobody wants to watch middle school boys play basketball except their parents. - Therefore, nobody wants to watch the WNBA. - If nobody watches, there's no money. You're lucky this joke of a league even exists at all. (Yay feminism! 🤡) There, I explained it non-scientifically.
I played some ball in High School; I remember a class and teammate in particular, his name is{was} Michael Silva. He had the height to dunk the ball but couldn't get the jump that he needed to do so. The coach saw Michael's potential and desire and desided to focus on his jumping. After a few months of very hard work on Michael's part, he finally Dunked the ball during an important game against an important high school rival. All of us who were there watching this perticular game were static! Michael Silva finally did what He wanted to do in a game, Dunk!!
I just hate that people jump to the dumbest conclusions when there is a disparity between 2 people or 2 groups. Generally, there are hundreds of reasons that lead to 2 people having differences in their lives. Its generally not because everyone hates women or are racist or bigoted.
I think those were just people on the street, going about their lives. The ""parade""😂, was just passing by at that time. Admittedly there was the ONE guy, "wooooo!"
When I saw the clip for the first time I thought the shadows from the trees were 3 groups of crowds and thought wow that's rough... Then i squinted my eyes and realised those were shadows and there was only one group of people in the middle and there was about 6 of them, god.
When I saw the clip for the first time I thought the shadows from the trees were 3 groups of crowds and thought wow that's rough... Then i squinted my eyes and realised those were shadows and there was only one group of people in the middle and there was about 6 of them, god.
I might actually be pissed if I was a marginal NBA player on the fringes and these lunatics were not only taking my money but potentially a roster spot from every team so the NBA could promote 'diversity'. That's 60 million that could employ another 30-60 players every year and feed their family, and they would've actually earned it not have it gifted to them...
How can your argument be about wanting to make the same share of revenue when you lose money each year? Do they not understand that logically it means they would be the ones having to pay to play, or is it just an act?
@@altonpaige2388because it's a matter of public record. The wnba has never made a profit in any year, ever. In fact they lose roughly $10 million each season as a league.
That’s not how money works. WNBA generates revenue-Not that much, but it does generate income. The problem is it also has a lot of expenses, and the expenses dramatically exceed the revenue it generates.
I do not get why they fight the lowering of the rim when most sports have different "settings" for pro male and female , plus they already use a smaller ball by a bit and I think the 3 point line is a bit shorter as well. Look at Angel Reese , she could be a star but watch her play......It's just odd how little skill she has with finishing or anything other then almost a placing the ball in the rim type play? If they lowered the rim it would open the door to so many of the 6'4 ish sized players to be able to put on a better show.
I live in Phoenix. My distain for Britney Greiner is such that you'd have to pay me at minimum $50 an hour to watch The Mercury. I would rather watch pro bowling or Olympic Curling than ANY WNBA game.
Bro Biden be like let’s trade brittney griner for the freaking “merchant of death”. I mean I’m not a politican but that seems like a stupid ass trade to me. Bet the Russians were laughing this asses off
Im just 6 2 and im pretty fucking sure i have a better chance scoring 1 point than her. There is nothing wrong about being confident, but sometimes you have to be realistic. If grown men playing in tha highest lvl of basketball cant stop cousins, what makes her think she could do it? I mean, cmon.
I remember hearing about Griner and thinking to myself "Oh yeah, the WNBA is a thing." I had a co-worker mention that the WNBA actually loses money on their games and I naturally I asked how they can stay afloat if they're always losing money. And he just said, "The NBA."
I'm glad you made this vid because now with Clark boosting ratings and popularity, they'll try and convince us that the wnba wasn't trash for 25 years.
Even saying there's a "wage gap" concedes too much. Male and female players do not play for the same organisation. The idea of a wage gap is incoherent in these circumstances. There's no reason why anyone should expect to earn the same as someone else just because they work the same profession. There isn't a 'wage gap' between chefs who work at michelin starred restaurants and chefs who work at Olive Garden.
Everyone says the WNBA should lower the rim. Im not convinced it would help, and it might actually hurt the game right now. The people i know who watch WNBA games are older men who like the style of game because its more like the style they grew up playing than the modern NBA. The fundamental problem womens sports always has is product quality. People pay top dollar to watch the best compete. WNBA might have the best female players, but a division 2 mens college team would crush the WNBA champs. Thats obvious. People dont care about division 2 basketball, and they dont care about the WNBA. Heck, in many countries the NBA is more popular than the domestic league. Because chinese and turkish people want to watch the best compete, not necessarily the best chinese or turks.
Division 2? Try decent high school teams. When I was a kid, the park I played at was occasionally frequented by Nykesha Sales, one of the greatest female players of all time. She would run with high school boys without crazy ups or amazing shooters and STILL they continually got the best of her fairly easily. She'd occasionally get a jumper up and in, but unless that shot was created by someone else and she was wide open good luck. The physical difference is just too stark, and no adjustment will ever change that. They'd be lucky to get a shot off against an actual college team giving 100% on defense...
"Why can't we have the same revenue sharing as the men?" Nate the Lawyer did a breakdown of this a little while back, and his conclusion was that if the women split the revenue with the league they would have to pay tens of thousands of dollars every year.
How weird... You are the first person who I've randomly read comments for on two differnt videos. Yesterday, I saw a comment you made on a Kevin Samuels video. Lol
@@standardofexcellence adult females are nothing more than old children. They lack the size, strength, logic, analytical skill and coordination of men.
These ladies need some humble pie. Instead of denigrating the NBA and US society they should be thankful for the opportunity to play for money. If they weren’t subsidized the league would have folded after Sheryl Swoopes retired.
End of the day, you're entertainers. Lower the hoop, make it bigger, use a smaller ball, NBA should just make the changes. If the players want to give up six figures and stay home, I'm sure you can find others that will be happy to take their places. The regular season (2023) runs 5/19-9/10. 16 weeks, 32 games, 100 grand. Nice summer job.
Jesus Christ. Why would an And1 fan like yourself even care? You arent going to watch it unless everyone else is right? Ha. Are you still watching And1 though? HA. Ya like dunks do ya? Clown.
I disagree with much of what is said here. I have tried to watch the WNBA many times but the lack of team play and the missed shots have always made the experience less enjoyable. But I have noticed this year the play is much better and CC is amazing. I watched more this year than I have all because of her. I do not think they make enough money. I think they need to make the league representative of the population and limit the number of each race to that percentage. Its time we make America great again by making all sports have equality and inclusion.
I agree, they do not make enough money. but they can't just dump millions into the bottomless pit that is the WNBA. they need to find a way to make it more entertaining, bc if they don't the WNBA will be destroyed
This is similar to an actor getting pissed for not getting as much money as another actor who had a more successful film. If you can’t bring in the dough then you can’t make the bread.😂
All I can think of is George on Seinfeld when they're writing the pilot and only get offered 13k between them... "Ted Danson gets at least 60k an episode!"😂😂😂
Like bill burr said : *Its not men's job to give a fuck about WNBA we have the NBA to watch and enjoy!!!* something along those lines Women need to start supporting women's sports alot more rather than just lip service and constantly bitching about the "Pay gap" when women's basketball loses money every year don't generate revenues and is being subsidized by the NBA. All they do is complain, ask for more money and refuse any constructive criticism and ideas on how to improve the WNBA
This league is the living definition of unnecessary stubbornness to try and prove a point. They all try to make it seem like a lower rim would be some sexist disrespect, but none of them realize or admit that in every sport where physical size and body proportions are a serious part of the sport womens is shorter/closer/smaller. Shaq had a point about volleyball nets, but as a former male volleyball player the hight difference is closer to 6.5 or 7 inches, not .5 The height differences are present in everything from volleyball to track and field, from softball to golf. Its not sexist either, its scientific. Women on average will be shorter than men so the heights are adjusted for the differences. And what makes the argument even more illogical is they play with a smaller ball because they have smaller hands, they have a closer three point line to account for strength differences, so why not play on a lower rim to account for height differences?
Lower the rim for the NBA and watch the shooting percentages drop. These women have been playing with a regular height rim for years so you cant just lower in to get a few dunk highlights. Only idiots care about dunks anyway. ANd yeah - most NBA fans are %$%$ing idiots.
@@timothytaylor9835women aren’t the majority demographic for the sports audience tho. Women do dominate the retail industry tho, it’s why ads for nearly every product (including male products) are aimed at women.
you draw 6500 a game and want the same money as the NBA? I looked it up 6500 Vs an 18500 seat arena!! 32 game season Just stop it!!! They have lost 200 million plus!! Stop it !!
@@AdamB34 You do understand the point, don't you? The WNBA is willing to use a different size ball - to accommodate a physical difference between men and women, but not willing to consider (or even try) lower hoop?
Women in sports are equally as skilled as men. Not their fault theyre smaller and less athletic. But when Kelsey Plum said that, she was wrong. Now that Caitlin Clark is done, the moment the WNBA becomes a profitable league, they need to get their players more money.
I am sorry. but theses players live in a fantasy world asking for more money, from business that loses millions every year. That is not how the world works... They are very lucky they still have jobs. They should be grateful for the NBA for letting them have a job. Instead they shit all over the NBA because of jealousy. The Players energy needs to be focused on how to improve the WNBA product. Not looking for more undeserved handouts...
Has that black guy ever watched the wnba? He says their skill level is off the charts, w t h! Off the charts on the bottom end of the chart, yes. They are all delusional. Pay them all based on the leagues revenue, they would owe money. It's a charity organization that the NBA has funded for 26 years. They have NEVER made profit ever! Any other business would be out of business!
Revenue sharing to match the NBA? OK. The NBA pays roughly 50-51% of the league revenue to players. So they get about 5 billion since the NBA generated a net profit of 10 billion last year. WNBA loses 10 million a year. So the players need to collectively cough up 5 million just to be allowed to have their own league while thanking the NBA for subsidizing the other 65 million to allow them to even set foot on an NBA court.
theres nothing to expose. a mediocre sport doesnt deserve the wages of a successful internationally known sport. fact is people dont give a fuck about womens basketball and never will
Lol, they love to complain and ask for donations but are not willing to work on solutions.
Divorce court will pay more, too bad they are all ugly or lesbians
Sounds like most women
"Why isn't my store selling products?"
"Well the store next door sells a few things you don't have, maybe you should add some of that to your store"
"Absolutely not"
@@kaya856 look at this delusional woman . Go support the wnba
@@kaya856 wbna is trash
If the WNBA ended today. No one would even notice.
That's 🥶
Only far right wing sleepwalking nut cases won’t watch the WNBA
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The what?
The NBA wouldn't have to pay for them to play an inferior version of the sport.
Literally, Caitlin comes along and says, “Hey! I’m here and I got 1.5 million fans with me.” And the WNBA is like, “Nah, we good white girl.”
Yup
😂😂😂
not just that .... he specifically said , we got issue getting young women/girls attend those games....CC come and not only you got those you get young boys too! CC is their wish come true as business and they do everything they can to push her and the fans out!
EXACTLY
so much hate and division in the WNBA
WNBA players should be forced to take financing classes so they understand what every one else already does.
Women have a need to be right that allows them to ignore the truth.
Wouldn't do any good.
Bingo
...Only married men pay for things they don't really like---and ironically the party that they're buying said thing for, can't even name 3 wnba players.
@@joxyjoxyjoxy1exactly bro they already know or should already know how a business in America works
What? There's a WNBA now??
Imagine having a company for 25 years that has never turned a profit and all of your employees want a pay raise
WNBA players don't realize how right that Bill Burr was when he said that women would rather pay to watch women tear each other down in reality shows, and buy their products. Than they would pay to watch women come together as a team, to accomplish a common goal. That's why the Kardashians are making billions.
Women likes to watch men compete because strong men provides the best offspring and therefore men compete. Women on the other hand has never competed with each other like men does , men compete to propagate, women compete to...whatever.
Yeah - and he pointed out that women do not go to games nor could they even NAME a single WNBA team.
It’s definitely THEIR responsibility
Though this may hold SOME weight in certain avenues it’s just the fact that the WNBA is boring and the players(mostly owners) are too stubborn to lower the rims. Even then lady’s just aren’t as athletic as their male counter parts which inherently will gather less attention. But combat sports and table or track sports are different. Both genders are able to do them without changes or stuff like that. Some people men included would happily watch the WUFC over a men’s basketball game. WNBA is just not it is all
@@ENLIL100 Women's softball and volleyball are far more exciting to watch because of the way that they compete against each other. Yet they don't get paid at all, to have their own leagues, how messed up is that?
Crazy that they’re complaining about money, while they’re getting 6 figures a year to play 32 games.
They get to play their favorite sport for an excellent salary, and they barely have to play any games. They’re incredibly lucky to be making any money
They're overpaid!!
40 plus playoffs
They are complaining about their pay, and they have never been profitable in 28 years. The NBA foots the bills for the league. They lose about 10 million a year.
All them doesn't get 6 figure some get 75,000
All the while, the league is not making any money. They are dead weight for the NBA....UNTIL Caitlin!
If there is no revenue and you're always in the negative.... You should be happy you still have a fucking job. Thank the NBA for your job.
The NBA is stuck with them. And they will never cut off the WNBA because if they do that league will scream racism and sexism and blah blah blah. The reasons why the WNBA is not doing well are obvious yet their player's don't wanna hear it.
Wish the nba spoon fed me too! Shiiiiit I'll take that job lol I don't even have to put much on my body all wnba players are weak and talentless
Thank you NBA. Wait. Im not even in the WNBA. Im a man. Fuck you WNBA.
A 6 figure salary job too. That's still good money
@@harveyharutunyan7360 And they play a couple of months out of the year
As a father of 2 daughters that love basketball I can honestly say that if these WNBA players seriously cared about aspiring young female players, they would stop crying for equality like victims and start pushing for equity. This would begin with the WNBA lowering the rim to 9ft. This is no different than having smaller balls for smaller hands…
Average height in the WNBA is approx 6ft. There's an argument for it to be lowered to 8ft IMO
@@TheBigThinker944 Yea I'm definitely not convinced 9ft is enough.
Also 75% of the players are masculine LGBT chicks. Who wants watch a bunch of women chest bumping, wearing baggy clothes and pretending to be men? The girls also get their attitudes from 🍆 envy. Their pride gets in the way.
They need to gain female viewers and fans and stop expecting men to pick up the tab for them. You could lower the rim to 5 ft and no one would give a single shit. Women don’t watch at the same levels men watch sports and therefore any bullshit changes you make to the sport is only to convince men to watch. That’s the problem. If women don’t want to support and spend their money on female sports than why bitch and moan about a gap and expect men to close the gap or cater to men to make the sport worth watching? It’s so easy to understand.
Even with lowered hoop, I doubt that WNBA will increase fans and viewers
the WNBA already has a smaller ball, a shorter 3 point line, and a shorter duration game. But nooooo, we can't have a 9 foot rim. SMH.
Take your logic and gtfo
That part
And don't forget they have a shorter season too.
For real like honestly getting paid $200,000 for 30 games is pretty nice especially when I know my companies losing money and then if you’re a bench warmer cool, you’re getting paid a quick 100,000 to do nothing but practice. Honestly it’s ridiculous this would be a completely different story if they were actually having people coming to their games and it was a good product but they talk about revenue dude there is no revenue to share 😂
Because society has told them there equal they wanna be men make it basketball for women they try to play it like men lower the hoop is a great suggestion
imagine making 200k+ USD a year then essentially having half the year as vacation and being upset over that.
Actually, you have to train during the off-season or you come in out of shape (ask Aliyeah Boston)
average wnba salary for 2022 was 102 thousand . not close to 200000.
@@stevecourtois3741still an amazing amount for a league not making much money
@@stevecourtois3741102k is still well above the average. Ya it ain’t wealthy but that’s still a very good income
@@stevecourtois3741still double National median
Shaq's & TMac's proposal to lower the rim is brilliant, but they (ladies) just hate to admit when a guy is right
Facts. They also play with a smaller ball and in a smaller court
@@SwishTalk1 the court isn't smaller the 3 point line is shorter.
No way; lowering the rim would throw everything off...it's 10 feet at every level from the very start. Shrink the ball another inch in circumference instead.
That's not it. The current players don't want that, because they'll have to relearn. One of the players even admitted this. And they know they can't relearn, because their intelligence level is... low.
@JohnSmith-zw8vp Nah, it's an ego/pride thing. They're pro athletes, meaning the best women in the world at what they do, and people are telling them they're still not good enough. Their response is basically an "F U", which is honestly understandable, but not at all constructive.
I sat down and watched a WNBA game recently. 5 minutes into the game I felt like I was watching a freshman boys high school game. I forced myself to watch all of it. It was brutal! Never again!
Why didn’t u leave
At halftime was the combined score over or under 50 points?
Sounds about right. Professional women are equivalent to high level 14 and 15 year old boys.
Wnba players claiming to be underpaid is no different than me complaining I'm an underpaid golfer, even though I'm a 20 handicapper whom zero people pay to watch.
They literally don't understand they are entertainers.
Or complaining that female powerlifters don't get as much attention when they lift half as much as men do
entertainers need an audience so.....................................
Because they're not entertaining😂
Dude I'd totally pay to watch you play 18. I'll pay the green fees and cart fees and hack up the course with you. I'm probably a 25 handicap so I won't slow you down much.
A "pay gap" would mean wnba players were playing in the same league as the men players. Why dont they understand this??
wnba produces negative $12 million a year. players would have to pay $83,000 a year to play. that would be fair.
Maybe if they put actual effort into promoting the season, they'd actually make a profit.
Imagine a restaurant serving only one kind of dish that sells poorly even after 10 years, and then refuse to change the menu because it would "take time to adjust".
And the best seller turned out to be some mayo from Iowa 🤔
They’re unwavering in their mindset that there’s no faultiness in their product. Delusion is the theme, not confidence.
Women need to support the WNBA. The league also need to add more teams, increase the roster sizes, guarantee rookie contracts. Get better TV deals. Market the players better.
I tune into professional sports to see athletes do things I can’t do. I dunked for the first time at age 15. I played higher level basketball than the wnba. I have no real reason to watch subpar athletes unless it is my own kids in Junior high
"Layla is into dance, but my next child will be dropstep dunking."
Congratulations, I hope he makes the NBA.
Lmfao savage AF 😂😂
They need to play European style or Princeton bball.. No one wants to see Ellen Iverson or girls dunk, you know those dunks are gone be ugly af too.. Make great passes smart plays great shooting... Don't play like men
…and her next child is by a white woman. I doubt any of Candace’s DNA is in there.
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4 years ago, when my son was in 8th grade his gold level AAU team played the local HS girls Varsity team who went to the state semi-finals here in California. They played half the quarters with the full sized ball and half with the women's ball. The 8th grade boys won the standard clock game 114 to 17. This includes the fact that the boys were no longer allowed to fast break after the first quarter. They also basically goofed around and loosened the D in the second half, where the girls scored nearly all of their 17 points.
Unequal pay is not the issue, Unequal skill is.
Lack of interest and lack of revenues.
You ever watch women’s basketball ? Skill? Lmao women are normally more skilled due to less athleticism. Y’all just say shit
Being able to dunk is not a skill. The NBA is full of flying clowns that do not know how to play basketball. Drafted on potential rather than talent. Its trash.
Why do you think its easier to score in the NBA than in Europe or a place like Australia? Hint - its not just the dumbed down NBA rules that promote scoring - its the fact that typical NBA players are dumb low IQ and unskilled flying clowns that do not know how to play basketball... Ever seen Shaqtin a Fool?
people arent equals and men and women arent equals either. we can do different things. men and women arent supposed to do the same shit. no mother can be a father and no father is a mother also. womens sports looks childish even compared to college mens basketball
There is no wage gap. A "wage gap" implies that different employees/workers/contractors of the same or similar employer are paid differently to do the same job despite having equal skills, qualifications, and experience, and producing similar results.
"The skill level is off the charts in women's basketball." You could tell he didn't believe it even as the words were coming out of his mouth.
Plus the culture of the WNBA sucks. No one wants to support an organization that is spoon fed money because they can’t fustian themselves. No one wants to support a buncha dike-ish women who hate their own country. They need an attitude adjustment. I’d love to get paid half a million for playing a sport I love.
As compared to other women. Wait until the first player willing to go trans decides they would rather be the biggest fish in a pond full of minnows than a minnow in pond of sharks.
Facts like WTF 😅😅😅 off-the-charts where
She's right..They decent players and terrible players..that's pretty off to me 😂
Im pretty sure that Haley Van Lith would kick your ass one on one. Being able to dunk means you are tall not skilled.
Notice the wording she uses. "I don't GET a dime." Rather than "I don't EARN a dime." WNBA has been subsidized since day one and has never made a net profit.
or even came close to even!!!
It's not up to the male players of the nba to be on the hook for the women's pay gap.
The current nba players are getting paid because of the revenue that they bring in.
Based on equality, wnba players should also want their pay based on the revenue that they bring in.
Olimpic rowers put a lot of time into being competitive but there isnt any money
Well said, except I would change "pay gap" to "profit margins". The WNBA players want equal revenue shares, but this isn't possible and is a bit misleading because profit and revenue are very different. The NBA makes so much revenue that despite their players getting ~50% of it, the owners still profit. The wnba doesn't have more money to give because it isn't even making a profit. It's all about the profit margin.
Women want equality, but they won't protest for plumbers, construction workers, electricians to make their workforce 50% female. WNBA is basically a welfare league eating off the crumbs of a spare couple million to support their league provided by the NBA
It’s always been crazy to me when they say “we want the same revenue % shared” like bitch where is the revenue????
So funny coach said he would empty his bank account and put up his house, instead of just letting her down easy. Savage
😂😂 it cracks me up every time
For real and that dude is literally a legendary coach for UConn. You know the most successful women’s basketball program ever and he keeps it real like they have to realize this is a product, not a sport I mean look at the NFL and NBA they do a lot of rule changes that benefits scoring, because generally people like watching high score games for the Casual audience would enjoy higher scoring games I mean that’s why when NBA players play FIBA is a completely different game because one was made to be more enjoying all the others just purely the sport and I think it’s ridiculous of these chicks with a smaller ball of shorter three-point line Ellis 30 game season think having a 9 foot rim is the worst thing ever 😂
He cares about his reputation.
Though I do have to point out that this video implies that Geno was her coach. She went to Baylor, and Kim Mulkey was her coach. Getting that woman to say anything about Griner is like trying to get blood out of a stone.
What a line, leave it to Gino to give em a dose of reality. I'm actually impressed at how well the NBA players responded, they could've gone completely nuts on her and instead they just quietly smirked and called her delusional.. Which she is...
They wont lower the rim, but theyre happy to play with a smaller ball? Its so dumb... lower the damn hoop.
If the WNBA always wants to complain about the NBA, then the NBA should just withdraw all financial support from the WNBA, and let them run 100% of their own basketball league. That way they can determine their own fate, and distribute the revenue any way they see fit. I'm not sure how long they would last given that they have been losing money for the past 26 years.
Hell yeah let them go broke so we don't to hear their bullshit
I'm sure they wouldn't last half a WNBA season before they're playing for free in a public park, and it won't be in the most popular public park either
They wouldn't know how to😂.
Great comment!😊
Grimer got famous for breaking a law in another country. That’s it.
That coach is a savage. Selling his house and betting all his money against his own player 😂😂
Nobody needs science to explain the basketball pay gap. Just a rudimentary understanding of economics. Something like this:
- WNBA players are at approximately the same skill and athleticism level as middle school boys.
- Nobody wants to watch middle school boys play basketball except their parents.
- Therefore, nobody wants to watch the WNBA.
- If nobody watches, there's no money. You're lucky this joke of a league even exists at all. (Yay feminism! 🤡)
There, I explained it non-scientifically.
I played some ball in High School; I remember a class and teammate in particular, his name is{was} Michael Silva. He had the height to dunk the ball but couldn't get the jump that he needed to do so. The coach saw Michael's potential and desire and desided to focus on his jumping. After a few months of very hard work on Michael's part, he finally Dunked the ball during an important game against an important high school rival. All of us who were there watching this perticular game were static!
Michael Silva finally did what He wanted to do in a game, Dunk!!
But did it help his ppg, rpg, apg, etc any?
Nice!
I just hate that people jump to the dumbest conclusions when there is a disparity between 2 people or 2 groups. Generally, there are hundreds of reasons that lead to 2 people having differences in their lives. Its generally not because everyone hates women or are racist or bigoted.
"Nobody showed up, not a soul." COME ON MAN, lets be accurate. I saw AT LEAST 10 people down there.
My bad 😂
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I think those were just people on the street, going about their lives. The ""parade""😂, was just passing by at that time. Admittedly there was the ONE guy, "wooooo!"
When I saw the clip for the first time I thought the shadows from the trees were 3 groups of crowds and thought wow that's rough... Then i squinted my eyes and realised those were shadows and there was only one group of people in the middle and there was about 6 of them, god.
When I saw the clip for the first time I thought the shadows from the trees were 3 groups of crowds and thought wow that's rough... Then i squinted my eyes and realised those were shadows and there was only one group of people in the middle and there was about 6 of them, god.
not being able to dunk at 6'10" is wild, im 6'4" and i've dunked before, tho not consistently
When you are a self sufficient league, then you could start pushing for more pay.
I actually feel bad for that team who had no one show up to their parade. That is beyond embarrassing, it’s soul crushing.
I’m starting to feel like they’re actually stealing money, if anything.
I might actually be pissed if I was a marginal NBA player on the fringes and these lunatics were not only taking my money but potentially a roster spot from every team so the NBA could promote 'diversity'. That's 60 million that could employ another 30-60 players every year and feed their family, and they would've actually earned it not have it gifted to them...
9:18 can’t lower the rim, but can play with a smaller ball, closer 3pt line and shorter quarters.
She really tried to get hostile and all it did was make her look stupid lol
Split the debt up between all the WNBA players
It's like a person that never pays their share of the rent complaining because you never do the dishes
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How can your argument be about wanting to make the same share of revenue when you lose money each year?
Do they not understand that logically it means they would be the ones having to pay to play, or is it just an act?
They have no revenue. They are in the negative.
You don’t even follow the WNBA so how in the hell do you know anything about each teams revenue?
@@altonpaige2388because it's a matter of public record. The wnba has never made a profit in any year, ever. In fact they lose roughly $10 million each season as a league.
@@altonpaige2388 GOOGLE ?
@@altonpaige2388 because they haven't made any money since they started so I'm not sure what you thought changed from then to now.
That’s not how money works. WNBA generates revenue-Not that much, but it does generate income. The problem is it also has a lot of expenses, and the expenses dramatically exceed the revenue it generates.
Imagine trying to sell a black and white tv today and expecting to be paid to e same as someone selling a flat screen
That’s a great analogy
I do not get why they fight the lowering of the rim when most sports have different "settings" for pro male and female , plus they already use a smaller ball by a bit and I think the 3 point line is a bit shorter as well. Look at Angel Reese , she could be a star but watch her play......It's just odd how little skill she has with finishing or anything other then almost a placing the ball in the rim type play? If they lowered the rim it would open the door to so many of the 6'4 ish sized players to be able to put on a better show.
It used to be when a company didnt make money they went under. This is what happens when everyone gets a trophy.
I live in Phoenix. My distain for Britney Greiner is such that you'd have to pay me at minimum $50 an hour to watch The Mercury. I would rather watch pro bowling or Olympic Curling than ANY WNBA game.
Ultimately, no matter how many times they lie… its all about LIFESTYLE, not livelihood.
Their out here acting like six figure salaries for 4-5 months of work places them below the poverty line smh.
You get no money from a jersey sale? What about the 2 your parents bought? Only 2 were sold? Doh!
Your jersey revenue came in. Here's your $20. 🤣😂
Bro Biden be like let’s trade brittney griner for the freaking “merchant of death”. I mean I’m not a politican but that seems like a stupid ass trade to me. Bet the Russians were laughing this asses off
I’ll take it a step further, I don’t think BG would score a single point if she played Boogie 1 v 1.
she wouldnt it would be 21-0
Im just 6 2 and im pretty fucking sure i have a better chance scoring 1 point than her. There is nothing wrong about being confident, but sometimes you have to be realistic. If grown men playing in tha highest lvl of basketball cant stop cousins, what makes her think she could do it? I mean, cmon.
I remember hearing about Griner and thinking to myself "Oh yeah, the WNBA is a thing." I had a co-worker mention that the WNBA actually loses money on their games and I naturally I asked how they can stay afloat if they're always losing money. And he just said, "The NBA."
this by far been the best WNBA video I’ve seen. Excellent job brother.
This is the typical far right wing sleep walking bs video.
This is the typical far right wing sleep walking bs video.
I'm glad you made this vid because now with Clark boosting ratings and popularity, they'll try and convince us that the wnba wasn't trash for 25 years.
NO MEN watch the Kardashians yet they make more than most NBA players. Hmmmmm.
I even have friends who like to tune in and watch NBA games all the way from Malawi over here; that's how popular it is
Even saying there's a "wage gap" concedes too much. Male and female players do not play for the same organisation. The idea of a wage gap is incoherent in these circumstances. There's no reason why anyone should expect to earn the same as someone else just because they work the same profession.
There isn't a 'wage gap' between chefs who work at michelin starred restaurants and chefs who work at Olive Garden.
Everyone says the WNBA should lower the rim. Im not convinced it would help, and it might actually hurt the game right now. The people i know who watch WNBA games are older men who like the style of game because its more like the style they grew up playing than the modern NBA.
The fundamental problem womens sports always has is product quality. People pay top dollar to watch the best compete. WNBA might have the best female players, but a division 2 mens college team would crush the WNBA champs. Thats obvious. People dont care about division 2 basketball, and they dont care about the WNBA. Heck, in many countries the NBA is more popular than the domestic league. Because chinese and turkish people want to watch the best compete, not necessarily the best chinese or turks.
Division 2? Try decent high school teams. When I was a kid, the park I played at was occasionally frequented by Nykesha Sales, one of the greatest female players of all time. She would run with high school boys without crazy ups or amazing shooters and STILL they continually got the best of her fairly easily. She'd occasionally get a jumper up and in, but unless that shot was created by someone else and she was wide open good luck. The physical difference is just too stark, and no adjustment will ever change that. They'd be lucky to get a shot off against an actual college team giving 100% on defense...
That championship parade looked like a funeral procession-scratch that, more folks would show up for the procession.
"Why can't we have the same revenue sharing as the men?"
Nate the Lawyer did a breakdown of this a little while back, and his conclusion was that if the women split the revenue with the league they would have to pay tens of thousands of dollars every year.
That coffee analogy at 10:35 was spot on. Things can both be the same, and different at the same time!
That championship parade with literally the guy recording the video the only one cheering reminds me of that Family guy bit about the WNBA 😅
They play 32-games season-adding games would be a greater financial disaster, most folks don’t want to pay for what they get to see on the the court.
A lot of WNBA players earn most of their income abroad, so they cannot afford to adapt their game to a lower net.
I'm a woman and I love to be entertained. I wanna see Dunkin'😆
How weird... You are the first person who I've randomly read comments for on two differnt videos. Yesterday, I saw a comment you made on a Kevin Samuels video. Lol
@@BratvaTV I'm all up and through these internet streets 😅🖐️
@@JustBree716 well, nice to meet ya and I'm sure I'll cya around. Lol
Duncan doughnuts needs to sponsor and they can use the slogan the only chance you will any dunkin
Then watch the NBA. Or men's college hoops. Or boys HS ball.
Luke, I'm also curious; have you ever been to a WNBA game with some of the better teams playing. Did you go to or watch any finals playoff games?
Sometimes you just have to accept failure.
Have u tried telling a women she is wrong?
@@billylaw8193😂😂😂😂😂😂
shaq had the best idea, lower the rim 6 inches, immediately more entertaining
Lowering the rim wouldnt even help. Their dunks would be garbage the same way everything else they do is. You aint gonna see 360 windmills.
Can't play defense because they have no sense of strategy or competitive instinct, can't layup, can't shoot, can barely rebound
@@standardofexcellence adult females are nothing more than old children. They lack the size, strength, logic, analytical skill and coordination of men.
Naw. You can do fun n entertaining shit on lower goals.
Exactly. Lowered hoops don't increase vertical jumping ability. Griner looks like she jumps about a foot off the ground...
“We are only playing basketball to dunk?”
Oh yeeaaahhh 😂 🤣🤣
The unmitigated gall 😂😂
Stop loosing $10 million a year and expect to get paid more. That's not how business works. Selling out games, sell more merchandise.
thats how feminism and woke women work
These ladies need some humble pie. Instead of denigrating the NBA and US society they should be thankful for the opportunity to play for money. If they weren’t subsidized the league would have folded after Sheryl Swoopes retired.
End of the day, you're entertainers. Lower the hoop, make it bigger, use a smaller ball, NBA should just make the changes. If the players want to give up six figures and stay home, I'm sure you can find others that will be happy to take their places. The regular season (2023) runs 5/19-9/10. 16 weeks, 32 games, 100 grand. Nice summer job.
They already have a smaller ball.
Jesus Christ. Why would an And1 fan like yourself even care? You arent going to watch it unless everyone else is right? Ha. Are you still watching And1 though? HA. Ya like dunks do ya? Clown.
I disagree with much of what is said here. I have tried to watch the WNBA many times but the lack of team play and the missed shots have always made the experience less enjoyable. But I have noticed this year the play is much better and CC is amazing. I watched more this year than I have all because of her. I do not think they make enough money. I think they need to make the league representative of the population and limit the number of each race to that percentage. Its time we make America great again by making all sports have equality and inclusion.
I agree, they do not make enough money. but they can't just dump millions into the bottomless pit that is the WNBA. they need to find a way to make it more entertaining, bc if they don't the WNBA will be destroyed
This is similar to an actor getting pissed for not getting as much money as another actor who had a more successful film. If you can’t bring in the dough then you can’t make the bread.😂
All I can think of is George on Seinfeld when they're writing the pilot and only get offered 13k between them...
"Ted Danson gets at least 60k an episode!"😂😂😂
Like bill burr said : *Its not men's job to give a fuck about WNBA we have the NBA to watch and enjoy!!!* something along those lines
Women need to start supporting women's sports alot more rather than just lip service and constantly bitching about the "Pay gap" when women's basketball loses money every year don't generate revenues and is being subsidized by the NBA. All they do is complain, ask for more money and refuse any constructive criticism and ideas on how to improve the WNBA
What if someone lowered the rim a few millimeters every game until they could dunk and no one told them?💡🤔
lmbo!
They have trained for years to shoot using a regular size rim..... And only idiots care about dunks.
they would STILL miss an easy lay up.
What GAP??? It is not the same product. Thus no GAP!
This league is the living definition of unnecessary stubbornness to try and prove a point. They all try to make it seem like a lower rim would be some sexist disrespect, but none of them realize or admit that in every sport where physical size and body proportions are a serious part of the sport womens is shorter/closer/smaller. Shaq had a point about volleyball nets, but as a former male volleyball player the hight difference is closer to 6.5 or 7 inches, not .5
The height differences are present in everything from volleyball to track and field, from softball to golf. Its not sexist either, its scientific. Women on average will be shorter than men so the heights are adjusted for the differences.
And what makes the argument even more illogical is they play with a smaller ball because they have smaller hands, they have a closer three point line to account for strength differences, so why not play on a lower rim to account for height differences?
Lower the rim for the NBA and watch the shooting percentages drop. These women have been playing with a regular height rim for years so you cant just lower in to get a few dunk highlights. Only idiots care about dunks anyway. ANd yeah - most NBA fans are %$%$ing idiots.
"Revenue" will be gross not net. It's laughably dishonest.
Brittany cooking u 1 on 1 ? 🤔 Don't be so sure! She not good at jump shooting barely makes dunks & lay ups! I think u have a chance logically! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You got to make a profit first then negotiate better pay wages
Not under feminism, all they have to do is keep up the narrative that they are being discriminated against.
@@jinov191 The majority of the United States are women so blame women for buying more NBA tickets than Wnba tickets.
@@timothytaylor9835women aren’t the majority demographic for the sports audience tho. Women do dominate the retail industry tho, it’s why ads for nearly every product (including male products) are aimed at women.
you draw 6500 a game and want the same money as the NBA? I looked it up 6500 Vs an 18500 seat arena!! 32 game season Just stop it!!! They have lost 200 million plus!! Stop it !!
why play with a smaller ball, if you don't want to lower the rim.
Because they have smaller hands
@@AdamB34 You do understand the point, don't you? The WNBA is willing to use a different size ball - to accommodate a physical difference between men and women, but not willing to consider (or even try) lower hoop?
and shorter season, game and 3 point line.
Women in sports are equally as skilled as men. Not their fault theyre smaller and less athletic. But when Kelsey Plum said that, she was wrong. Now that Caitlin Clark is done, the moment the WNBA becomes a profitable league, they need to get their players more money.
lol at 6 10 and cant dunk? i was almost able to in high school at 5'9"
when i was 30, 6'4 and weighed 310, in shape. i could dunk about half my attempt's. as for rim height, 6 inch's would not even ber noticed.
I am sorry. but theses players live in a fantasy world asking for more money, from business that loses millions every year.
That is not how the world works... They are very lucky they still have jobs.
They should be grateful for the NBA for letting them have a job. Instead they shit all over the NBA because of jealousy.
The Players energy needs to be focused on how to improve the WNBA product.
Not looking for more undeserved handouts...
I would play basketball for 30k a year
hell yeah
I wonder what wnba players do in effort of getting more women’s viewership.
The investors were russians
Makes sense
Has that black guy ever watched the wnba? He says their skill level is off the charts, w t h! Off the charts on the bottom end of the chart, yes. They are all delusional. Pay them all based on the leagues revenue, they would owe money. It's a charity organization that the NBA has funded for 26 years. They have NEVER made profit ever! Any other business would be out of business!
The NBA should make them lower their hoop a half a foot and if they dont do it then pull back on their funding....
This is great. Now make one on women's soccer as well. Because they seem to have a hard time "getting it" as well.
Women's soccer is different, those women actually deserve more than the men. The attention and excitement in their play... now WNBA Basketball nah ..
Revenue sharing to match the NBA? OK. The NBA pays roughly 50-51% of the league revenue to players. So they get about 5 billion since the NBA generated a net profit of 10 billion last year.
WNBA loses 10 million a year. So the players need to collectively cough up 5 million just to be allowed to have their own league while thanking the NBA for subsidizing the other 65 million to allow them to even set foot on an NBA court.
It would be so refreshing to see just one of them be like "oh. Yeah I think you’re right"
Just like a normal humble human being
As a volleyball player its insane how the rim in basketball is the same height for both genders.
theres nothing to expose. a mediocre sport doesnt deserve the wages of a successful internationally known sport. fact is people dont give a fuck about womens basketball and never will