Scientifically Dismantling the WNBA Pay Gap Argument
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- Опубликовано: 24 янв 2023
- The WNBA has been around since the late 90s, and it seems like the only time they're relevant is when a player gets thrown into a Russian prison, or the women are demanding a raise.
As someone who's been a fan of the NBA since I was 8 years old, I've never really cared or noticed the WNBA- and I know many of you watching can relate.
In high school, my friends would always poke fun at how bad the WNBA is- I didn't know anything about the WNBA then since it was never on TV.
But I'll never forget the first time I was exposed to the league.
ESPN was doing an interview with a WNBA player- her name's Brittney Griner- you may know her as the WNBA player that was trapped in Russia.
Now Griner is 6'10".
And the interviewer asks her to throw down a dunk because it's uncommon for females to be able to dunk on a 10-foot hoop.
She goes up and misses her first attempt.
At that point, I'm thinking, 'ok, everyone gets one.'
Before trying her second attempt, she makes sure her laces are tied.
and after that dramatic build-up, she misses again.
At that moment, I'm thinking this has to be a skit- but nope. It's 100% real.
Now don't get it twisted, she'd probably cook me 1 on 1, there's no doubt about that- but really? This is what the best women's basketball league in America has to offer?
If you google WNBA dunks, you'll find a 2-minute compilation of every dunk that's happened in the last 26 years. Spoiler alert there's been less than 30, and only 8 players have been able to.
If you google WNBA highlights, the top search results are 10 minutes of WNBA fails.
But you know what? Anyone can stitch a bunch of lowlights together and make something look bad.
Just look at what Shaq did to Javale McGee early on in his career.
However, what truly convinced me that the WNBA is as bad as everyone says it is was this video that went viral this past summer.
So, just to give you some context, some WNBA team won a chip and decided to throw a parade expecting their fans to show up.
And nobody showed.
Not a single soul.
Despite the fact nobody cares about the league, the players aren't better or even as good as the NBA- even if they say they are.
The women of the league keep coming up with more arguments about why they should be paid better.
Why aren't they paid the same as the men?
First and foremost, let's address the elephant in the room, why is there a wage gap?
Statistically speaking, between the two leagues, there's a major difference in fan attendance and viewership.
The WNBA had 379,000 people tune in to watch during the 21/22 season across 4 major American networks.
Compared to the NBA, the NBA had 1.75M viewers that same season across the same networks.
More viewers = more commercials which = more money.
Last year, the WNBA generated $60M in revenue through tickets, merch, commercials and sponsorships.
Whereas their counterpart generated $10B through the same means of sales.
Finally, there's also a difference in the games played.
Each team in the WNBA plays just 32 games a season, plus playoffs.
And in the NBA, teams play 82 games plus the playoffs.
Fewer games = less screen time. Less screen time = fewer commercials, and fewer commercials = less money.
The more money the league generates, the more money it has to distribute among its players.
That's why there's a wage gap.
Despite people's assumption that the reason for the WNBA's lack of success is due to sexism- it couldn't be further from the truth.
The WNBA is subsidized by the NBA because women wanted their own basketball league.
And what happened?
Barely any women show up to the games.
Do you know what's even more ironic? More men watch the WNBA than women.
So in this video, we are going to analyze and dismantle three of the best arguments that WNBA players have come up with on why they deserve to be paid more.
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Lol, they love to complain and ask for donations but are not willing to work on solutions.
Divorce court will pay more, too bad they are all ugly or lesbians
Sounds like most women
"Why isn't my store selling products?"
"Well the store next door sells a few things you don't have, maybe you should add some of that to your store"
"Absolutely not"
@@kaya856 look at this delusional woman . Go support the wnba
@@kaya856 wbna is trash
If the WNBA ended today. No one would even notice.
That's 🥶
Only far right wing sleepwalking nut cases won’t watch the WNBA
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The what?
The NBA wouldn't have to pay for them to play an inferior version of the sport.
WNBA players should be forced to take financing classes so they understand what every one else already does.
Women have a need to be right that allows them to ignore the truth.
Wouldn't do any good.
Bingo
...Only married men pay for things they don't really like---and ironically the party that they're buying said thing for, can't even name 3 wnba players.
@@joxyjoxyjoxy1exactly bro they already know or should already know how a business in America works
What? There's a WNBA now??
Crazy that they’re complaining about money, while they’re getting 6 figures a year to play 32 games.
They get to play their favorite sport for an excellent salary, and they barely have to play any games. They’re incredibly lucky to be making any money
They're overpaid!!
40 plus playoffs
They are complaining about their pay, and they have never been profitable in 28 years. The NBA foots the bills for the league. They lose about 10 million a year.
Never underestimate a woman's ability to deny all accountability
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and the men too. There are white knights out there. it's actually scary.
AND BLAME US (MEN) FOR ALL OF IT!
WNBA players don't realize how right that Bill Burr was when he said that women would rather pay to watch women tear each other down in reality shows, and buy their products. Than they would pay to watch women come together as a team, to accomplish a common goal. That's why the Kardashians are making billions.
Holy shit I never thought of it like that. That's actually spot-on.
Women likes to watch men compete because strong men provides the best offspring and therefore men compete. Women on the other hand has never competed with each other like men does , men compete to propagate, women compete to...whatever.
Yeah - and he pointed out that women do not go to games nor could they even NAME a single WNBA team.
It’s definitely THEIR responsibility
Though this may hold SOME weight in certain avenues it’s just the fact that the WNBA is boring and the players(mostly owners) are too stubborn to lower the rims. Even then lady’s just aren’t as athletic as their male counter parts which inherently will gather less attention. But combat sports and table or track sports are different. Both genders are able to do them without changes or stuff like that. Some people men included would happily watch the WUFC over a men’s basketball game. WNBA is just not it is all
If there is no revenue and you're always in the negative.... You should be happy you still have a fucking job. Thank the NBA for your job.
The NBA is stuck with them. And they will never cut off the WNBA because if they do that league will scream racism and sexism and blah blah blah. The reasons why the WNBA is not doing well are obvious yet their player's don't wanna hear it.
Wish the nba spoon fed me too! Shiiiiit I'll take that job lol I don't even have to put much on my body all wnba players are weak and talentless
Thank you NBA. Wait. Im not even in the WNBA. Im a man. Fuck you WNBA.
A 6 figure salary job too. That's still good money
@@harveyharutunyan7360 And they play a couple of months out of the year
Unequal pay is not the issue, Unequal skill is.
Lack of interest and lack of revenues.
You ever watch women’s basketball ? Skill? Lmao women are normally more skilled due to less athleticism. Y’all just say shit
Being able to dunk is not a skill. The NBA is full of flying clowns that do not know how to play basketball. Drafted on potential rather than talent. Its trash.
Why do you think its easier to score in the NBA than in Europe or a place like Australia? Hint - its not just the dumbed down NBA rules that promote scoring - its the fact that typical NBA players are dumb low IQ and unskilled flying clowns that do not know how to play basketball... Ever seen Shaqtin a Fool?
people arent equals and men and women arent equals either. we can do different things. men and women arent supposed to do the same shit. no mother can be a father and no father is a mother also. womens sports looks childish even compared to college mens basketball
"The skill level is off the charts in women's basketball." You could tell he didn't believe it even as the words were coming out of his mouth.
Plus the culture of the WNBA sucks. No one wants to support an organization that is spoon fed money because they can’t fustian themselves. No one wants to support a buncha dike-ish women who hate their own country. They need an attitude adjustment. I’d love to get paid half a million for playing a sport I love.
As compared to other women. Wait until the first player willing to go trans decides they would rather be the biggest fish in a pond full of minnows than a minnow in pond of sharks.
Facts like WTF 😅😅😅 off-the-charts where
She's right..They decent players and terrible players..that's pretty off to me 😂
Im pretty sure that Haley Van Lith would kick your ass one on one. Being able to dunk means you are tall not skilled.
Wnba players claiming to be underpaid is no different than me complaining I'm an underpaid golfer, even though I'm a 20 handicapper whom zero people pay to watch.
They literally don't understand they are entertainers.
Or complaining that female powerlifters don't get as much attention when they lift half as much as men do
entertainers need an audience so.....................................
Because they're not entertaining😂
As a father of 2 daughters that love basketball I can honestly say that if these WNBA players seriously cared about aspiring young female players, they would stop crying for equality like victims and start pushing for equity. This would begin with the WNBA lowering the rim to 9ft. This is no different than having smaller balls for smaller hands…
Average height in the WNBA is approx 6ft. There's an argument for it to be lowered to 8ft IMO
@@TheBigThinker944 Yea I'm definitely not convinced 9ft is enough.
Also 75% of the players are masculine LGBT chicks. Who wants watch a bunch of women chest bumping, wearing baggy clothes and pretending to be men? The girls also get their attitudes from 🍆 envy. Their pride gets in the way.
They need to gain female viewers and fans and stop expecting men to pick up the tab for them. You could lower the rim to 5 ft and no one would give a single shit. Women don’t watch at the same levels men watch sports and therefore any bullshit changes you make to the sport is only to convince men to watch. That’s the problem. If women don’t want to support and spend their money on female sports than why bitch and moan about a gap and expect men to close the gap or cater to men to make the sport worth watching? It’s so easy to understand.
Even with lowered hoop, I doubt that WNBA will increase fans and viewers
imagine making 200k+ USD a year then essentially having half the year as vacation and being upset over that.
Actually, you have to train during the off-season or you come in out of shape (ask Aliyeah Boston)
average wnba salary for 2022 was 102 thousand . not close to 200000.
the WNBA already has a smaller ball, a shorter 3 point line, and a shorter duration game. But nooooo, we can't have a 9 foot rim. SMH.
Take your logic and gtfo
That part
And don't forget they have a shorter season too.
For real like honestly getting paid $200,000 for 30 games is pretty nice especially when I know my companies losing money and then if you’re a bench warmer cool, you’re getting paid a quick 100,000 to do nothing but practice. Honestly it’s ridiculous this would be a completely different story if they were actually having people coming to their games and it was a good product but they talk about revenue dude there is no revenue to share 😂
Because society has told them there equal they wanna be men make it basketball for women they try to play it like men lower the hoop is a great suggestion
wnba produces negative $12 million a year. players would have to pay $83,000 a year to play. that would be fair.
Maybe if they put actual effort into promoting the season, they'd actually make a profit.
I sat down and watched a WNBA game recently. 5 minutes into the game I felt like I was watching a freshman boys high school game. I forced myself to watch all of it. It was brutal! Never again!
Why didn’t u leave
At halftime was the combined score over or under 50 points?
Sounds about right. Professional women are equivalent to high level 14 and 15 year old boys.
"Nobody showed up, not a soul." COME ON MAN, lets be accurate. I saw AT LEAST 10 people down there.
My bad 😂
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I think those were just people on the street, going about their lives. The ""parade""😂, was just passing by at that time. Admittedly there was the ONE guy, "wooooo!"
"Layla is into dance, but my next child will be dropstep dunking."
Congratulations, I hope he makes the NBA.
Lmfao savage AF 😂😂
They need to play European style or Princeton bball.. No one wants to see Ellen Iverson or girls dunk, you know those dunks are gone be ugly af too.. Make great passes smart plays great shooting... Don't play like men
…and her next child is by a white woman. I doubt any of Candace’s DNA is in there.
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Shaq's & TMac's proposal to lower the rim is brilliant, but they (ladies) just hate to admit when a guy is right
Facts. They also play with a smaller ball and in a smaller court
@@SwishTalk1 the court isn't smaller the 3 point line is shorter.
No way; lowering the rim would throw everything off...it's 10 feet at every level from the very start. Shrink the ball another inch in circumference instead.
That's not it. The current players don't want that, because they'll have to relearn. One of the players even admitted this. And they know they can't relearn, because their intelligence level is... low.
@JohnSmith-zw8vp Nah, it's an ego/pride thing. They're pro athletes, meaning the best women in the world at what they do, and people are telling them they're still not good enough. Their response is basically an "F U", which is honestly understandable, but not at all constructive.
Imagine a restaurant serving only one kind of dish that sells poorly even after 10 years, and then refuse to change the menu because it would "take time to adjust".
That coach is a savage. Selling his house and betting all his money against his own player 😂😂
They’re unwavering in their mindset that there’s no faultiness in their product. Delusion is the theme, not confidence.
So funny coach said he would empty his bank account and put up his house, instead of just letting her down easy. Savage
😂😂 it cracks me up every time
For real and that dude is literally a legendary coach for UConn. You know the most successful women’s basketball program ever and he keeps it real like they have to realize this is a product, not a sport I mean look at the NFL and NBA they do a lot of rule changes that benefits scoring, because generally people like watching high score games for the Casual audience would enjoy higher scoring games I mean that’s why when NBA players play FIBA is a completely different game because one was made to be more enjoying all the others just purely the sport and I think it’s ridiculous of these chicks with a smaller ball of shorter three-point line Ellis 30 game season think having a 9 foot rim is the worst thing ever 😂
He cares about his reputation.
Though I do have to point out that this video implies that Geno was her coach. She went to Baylor, and Kim Mulkey was her coach. Getting that woman to say anything about Griner is like trying to get blood out of a stone.
Imagine having a company for 25 years that has never turned a profit and all of your employees want a pay raise
She really tried to get hostile and all it did was make her look stupid lol
If the WNBA always wants to complain about the NBA, then the NBA should just withdraw all financial support from the WNBA, and let them run 100% of their own basketball league. That way they can determine their own fate, and distribute the revenue any way they see fit. I'm not sure how long they would last given that they have been losing money for the past 26 years.
Hell yeah let them go broke so we don't to hear their bullshit
I'm sure they wouldn't last half a WNBA season before they're playing for free in a public park, and it won't be in the most popular public park either
They wouldn't know how to😂.
I’m starting to feel like they’re actually stealing money, if anything.
I tune into professional sports to see athletes do things I can’t do. I dunked for the first time at age 15. I played higher level basketball than the wnba. I have no real reason to watch subpar athletes unless it is my own kids in Junior high
Notice the wording she uses. "I don't GET a dime." Rather than "I don't EARN a dime." WNBA has been subsidized since day one and has never made a net profit.
or even came close to even!!!
It's not up to the male players of the nba to be on the hook for the women's pay gap.
The current nba players are getting paid because of the revenue that they bring in.
Based on equality, wnba players should also want their pay based on the revenue that they bring in.
Olimpic rowers put a lot of time into being competitive but there isnt any money
Well said, except I would change "pay gap" to "profit margins". The WNBA players want equal revenue shares, but this isn't possible and is a bit misleading because profit and revenue are very different. The NBA makes so much revenue that despite their players getting ~50% of it, the owners still profit. The wnba doesn't have more money to give because it isn't even making a profit. It's all about the profit margin.
Women want equality, but they won't protest for plumbers, construction workers, electricians to make their workforce 50% female. WNBA is basically a welfare league eating off the crumbs of a spare couple million to support their league provided by the NBA
When you are a self sufficient league, then you could start pushing for more pay.
I even have friends who like to tune in and watch NBA games all the way from Malawi over here; that's how popular it is
That coffee analogy at 10:35 was spot on. Things can both be the same, and different at the same time!
They have no revenue. They are in the negative.
You don’t even follow the WNBA so how in the hell do you know anything about each teams revenue?
@@altonpaige2388because it's a matter of public record. The wnba has never made a profit in any year, ever. In fact they lose roughly $10 million each season as a league.
@@altonpaige2388 GOOGLE ?
@@altonpaige2388 because they haven't made any money since they started so I'm not sure what you thought changed from then to now.
That’s not how money works. WNBA generates revenue-Not that much, but it does generate income. The problem is it also has a lot of expenses, and the expenses dramatically exceed the revenue it generates.
I played some ball in High School; I remember a class and teammate in particular, his name is{was} Michael Silva. He had the height to dunk the ball but couldn't get the jump that he needed to do so. The coach saw Michael's potential and desire and desided to focus on his jumping. After a few months of very hard work on Michael's part, he finally Dunked the ball during an important game against an important high school rival. All of us who were there watching this perticular game were static!
Michael Silva finally did what He wanted to do in a game, Dunk!!
But did it help his ppg, rpg, apg, etc any?
Nice!
4 years ago, when my son was in 8th grade his gold level AAU team played the local HS girls Varsity team who went to the state semi-finals here in California. They played half the quarters with the full sized ball and half with the women's ball. The 8th grade boys won the standard clock game 114 to 17. This includes the fact that the boys were no longer allowed to fast break after the first quarter. They also basically goofed around and loosened the D in the second half, where the girls scored nearly all of their 17 points.
I actually feel bad for that team who had no one show up to their parade. That is beyond embarrassing, it’s soul crushing.
Split the debt up between all the WNBA players
It's like a person that never pays their share of the rent complaining because you never do the dishes
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NO MEN watch the Kardashians yet they make more than most NBA players. Hmmmmm.
I just hate that people jump to the dumbest conclusions when there is a disparity between 2 people or 2 groups. Generally, there are hundreds of reasons that lead to 2 people having differences in their lives. Its generally not because everyone hates women or are racist or bigoted.
It’s always been crazy to me when they say “we want the same revenue % shared” like bitch where is the revenue????
It used to be when a company didnt make money they went under. This is what happens when everyone gets a trophy.
Ultimately, no matter how many times they lie… its all about LIFESTYLE, not livelihood.
Their out here acting like six figure salaries for 4-5 months of work places them below the poverty line smh.
A "pay gap" would mean wnba players were playing in the same league as the men players. Why dont they understand this??
Women need to support the WNBA. The league also need to add more teams, increase the roster sizes, guarantee rookie contracts. Get better TV deals. Market the players better.
I’ll take it a step further, I don’t think BG would score a single point if she played Boogie 1 v 1.
she wouldnt it would be 21-0
Im just 6 2 and im pretty fucking sure i have a better chance scoring 1 point than her. There is nothing wrong about being confident, but sometimes you have to be realistic. If grown men playing in tha highest lvl of basketball cant stop cousins, what makes her think she could do it? I mean, cmon.
"Why can't we have the same revenue sharing as the men?"
Nate the Lawyer did a breakdown of this a little while back, and his conclusion was that if the women split the revenue with the league they would have to pay tens of thousands of dollars every year.
If that parade was for a NBA team, there would be nowhere left to stand.
Lowering the rim wouldnt even help. Their dunks would be garbage the same way everything else they do is. You aint gonna see 360 windmills.
Can't play defense because they have no sense of strategy or competitive instinct, can't layup, can't shoot, can barely rebound
@@standardofexcellence adult females are nothing more than old children. They lack the size, strength, logic, analytical skill and coordination of men.
Naw. You can do fun n entertaining shit on lower goals.
That championship parade looked like a funeral procession-scratch that, more folks would show up for the procession.
These ladies need some humble pie. Instead of denigrating the NBA and US society they should be thankful for the opportunity to play for money. If they weren’t subsidized the league would have folded after Sheryl Swoopes retired.
When the WNBA generates negative income, they should just quit instead of asking for higher pay. Negative income means no money for your wages.
They play 32-games season-adding games would be a greater financial disaster, most folks don’t want to pay for what they get to see on the the court.
Even saying there's a "wage gap" concedes too much. Male and female players do not play for the same organisation. The idea of a wage gap is incoherent in these circumstances. There's no reason why anyone should expect to earn the same as someone else just because they work the same profession.
There isn't a 'wage gap' between chefs who work at michelin starred restaurants and chefs who work at Olive Garden.
I live in Phoenix. My distain for Britney Greiner is such that you'd have to pay me at minimum $50 an hour to watch The Mercury. I would rather watch pro bowling or Olympic Curling than ANY WNBA game.
It really infuriates me that adults can partake in such an inferior product, make more money than most Americans and still complain. I worked in sales for a few years - I laughed when it was payday and people would complain while dismissing the sales numbers that show you’re not in their league.
What if someone lowered the rim a few millimeters every game until they could dunk and no one told them?💡🤔
lmbo!
They have trained for years to shoot using a regular size rim..... And only idiots care about dunks.
they would STILL miss an easy lay up.
Sometimes you just have to accept failure.
Have u tried telling a women she is wrong?
When the girl said she wanted her share of the revenue my thought was, "OK where do they send the bill?"
You get no money from a jersey sale? What about the 2 your parents bought? Only 2 were sold? Doh!
Your jersey revenue came in. Here's your $20. 🤣😂
this by far been the best WNBA video I’ve seen. Excellent job brother.
This is the typical far right wing sleep walking bs video.
This is the typical far right wing sleep walking bs video.
There is no wage gap. A "wage gap" implies that different employees/workers/contractors of the same or similar employer are paid differently to do the same job despite having equal skills, qualifications, and experience, and producing similar results.
It would be so refreshing to see just one of them be like "oh. Yeah I think you’re right"
Just like a normal humble human being
I'm a woman and I love to be entertained. I wanna see Dunkin'😆
How weird... You are the first person who I've randomly read comments for on two differnt videos. Yesterday, I saw a comment you made on a Kevin Samuels video. Lol
@@BratvaTV I'm all up and through these internet streets 😅🖐️
@@JustBree716 well, nice to meet ya and I'm sure I'll cya around. Lol
Duncan doughnuts needs to sponsor and they can use the slogan the only chance you will any dunkin
Then watch the NBA. Or men's college hoops. Or boys HS ball.
This is similar to an actor getting pissed for not getting as much money as another actor who had a more successful film. If you can’t bring in the dough then you can’t make the bread.😂
Shieee. I should identify as a woman so I can play in the WNBA & make over $120K for playing 32 games! The fact that they make that kinda money for a business that doesn't generate any income to cover the business is a miracle! They should be grateful that they're playing in the first place!
Luke, I'm also curious; have you ever been to a WNBA game with some of the better teams playing. Did you go to or watch any finals playoff games?
You got to make a profit first then negotiate better pay wages
Not under feminism, all they have to do is keep up the narrative that they are being discriminated against.
@@jinov191 The majority of the United States are women so blame women for buying more NBA tickets than Wnba tickets.
@@timothytaylor9835women aren’t the majority demographic for the sports audience tho. Women do dominate the retail industry tho, it’s why ads for nearly every product (including male products) are aimed at women.
Rafael Nadal was asked by a female journalist about why the ale tennis players get paid more than female tennis player. He answered female models get paid more than male models, doesn't that count? If the WNBA wants to be really honest with themselves, then they have to look at the standard of the players, they also have to acknowledge that hardly anyone is interested in women's sport, any sport. The exception being tennis. The only other time large numbers watch women's sport is the Olympics.
Nobody cares about women's soccer, except for the world cup. Nobody cares about women's golf, nobody cares about women's basketball except for the Olympics.
The most confusing is the lowering of the rim?? When they say, "do people just want to see dunks??" YES! That is when the NBA took off, no one was getting the bags they were now in the NBA pre-dunks.
Only casual fan idiots care about dunks.
Stop loosing $10 million a year and expect to get paid more. That's not how business works. Selling out games, sell more merchandise.
thats how feminism and woke women work
There are more women in the world then men. They have a HUGE potential audience. If we're all about equality, how about equal BLAME? The truth - not even women want to watch. Deal with it.
Umm - plenty of females watch the NBA. ANd plenty of men enjoy watching womens basketball. Basketball is basketball to basketball fans. It doesnt matter what sex the players are.
@@theoneonly259 your statement reeks of being a Simp. Cut it out. The main audience for WNBA should be Women, yet the avg woman couldn't name two players....
Even on its face, to say that what the top players make isn't enough, is crazy. The top players make as much or more than just about any doctor or lawyer that isn't private practice/partnered.
That championship parade with literally the guy recording the video the only one cheering reminds me of that Family guy bit about the WNBA 😅
The WNBA is one commissioner away from not existing and I don't think anybody will notice
why play with a smaller ball, if you don't want to lower the rim.
Because they have smaller hands
@@AdamB34 You do understand the point, don't you? The WNBA is willing to use a different size ball - to accommodate a physical difference between men and women, but not willing to consider (or even try) lower hoop?
and shorter season, game and 3 point line.
“Maybe if one night you guys didn’t go to the casino”
I would’ve walked off
I was joking with my wife the other day saying just imagine going to a festival like Lollapalooza or Coachella and hearing the least popular, lowest-grossing act say things like, "We sing as passionately as the top acts and work just as hard. We do the same job, and we're every bit as good. We're entitled to the same pay!" Nobody would take them seriously.
This league is the living definition of unnecessary stubbornness to try and prove a point. They all try to make it seem like a lower rim would be some sexist disrespect, but none of them realize or admit that in every sport where physical size and body proportions are a serious part of the sport womens is shorter/closer/smaller. Shaq had a point about volleyball nets, but as a former male volleyball player the hight difference is closer to 6.5 or 7 inches, not .5
The height differences are present in everything from volleyball to track and field, from softball to golf. Its not sexist either, its scientific. Women on average will be shorter than men so the heights are adjusted for the differences.
And what makes the argument even more illogical is they play with a smaller ball because they have smaller hands, they have a closer three point line to account for strength differences, so why not play on a lower rim to account for height differences?
Lower the rim for the NBA and watch the shooting percentages drop. These women have been playing with a regular height rim for years so you cant just lower in to get a few dunk highlights. Only idiots care about dunks anyway. ANd yeah - most NBA fans are %$%$ing idiots.
End of the day, you're entertainers. Lower the hoop, make it bigger, use a smaller ball, NBA should just make the changes. If the players want to give up six figures and stay home, I'm sure you can find others that will be happy to take their places. The regular season (2023) runs 5/19-9/10. 16 weeks, 32 games, 100 grand. Nice summer job.
They already have a smaller ball.
Jesus Christ. Why would an And1 fan like yourself even care? You arent going to watch it unless everyone else is right? Ha. Are you still watching And1 though? HA. Ya like dunks do ya? Clown.
They seem to think that they should be paid like NBA payers when they do not generate 5% of the revenue an NBA team does. The best WNBA team can not beat a top high school team. Their demands are laughable.
i watched the wnba in the beginning but then again, it shifted hard and i wasn’t able to watch it on regular tv on an antenna.
I would play basketball for 30k a year
hell yeah
The investors were russians
Makes sense
The only reason that holds any logic for me, for wnba players to not want to lower the rim is for convenience of practice. They have a shorter 3 point line already, lowering the rim to 9 ft to allow for more dunks would fundamentally bring more entertainment which is what professional basketball is all about.
Shaq doesn’t understand the attraction of beach volleyball. It isn’t the height of the net. The beach volleyball players are attractive and they wear bikinis.
lol at 6 10 and cant dunk? i was almost able to in high school at 5'9"
when i was 30, 6'4 and weighed 310, in shape. i could dunk about half my attempt's. as for rim height, 6 inch's would not even ber noticed.
An under 15 boys team would absolutely crush these women. A top 12 and under boys team would probably still win. But hey men and women are physically the same, so go try out for an NBA team. Oh wait, wnba players should demand spots on NBA rosters and get the nba minimum.
It would take only 3 great or good nba players of an average team to trounce any wnba team, game after game even with a handicap they couldn't play defense or rebound they are fucked and for the first time not by a dildo
Wow. I had never seen that footage of a WNBA parade where they closed off the roads and no one is there to cheer. That is painfully uncomfortable.
Revenue sharing to match the NBA? OK. The NBA pays roughly 50-51% of the league revenue to players. So they get about 5 billion since the NBA generated a net profit of 10 billion last year.
WNBA loses 10 million a year. So the players need to collectively cough up 5 million just to be allowed to have their own league while thanking the NBA for subsidizing the other 65 million to allow them to even set foot on an NBA court.
Without the NBA footing the bill non of the WNBA would be getting a check from the charity league
Poor TMac
I don’t think dunks are particularly exciting, but I think lowering the rim makes sense to make their playing visually comparable to the NBA. Seen too many clips of their play just not looking near as polished. Theyre not as tall on average how does it not make sense to lower it?
Even if they could dunk, i dont think it will solve the problem. They dont move as fast, jump as high, and the way they move isnt the same. We already got spoiled by the nba, or men's basketball in general that we get to compare it. We watch the nba because they do what we cant do and it amazes us. But watching the wnba, players doing crab dribbles, ugly jumpers and lay ups. I will watch it on tv when nothing good is on sure. But will i pay to watch it?no.
@@jeffreydomingo9478 it would help add something to the game at least though, dunking is probably 50% of the reason people watch basketball games, especially nowdays when the NBA basically outlawed defense
@@stevenscummy1458 yeah i agree it will do something but they refuse to go through any changes.
They have trained for years to shoot into a regular size rim........
@@theoneonly259 and? Just cuz they’ve trained doesn’t mean it has to stay that way. Should every new wnba player train to shoot on a 10ft just because the previous ones did?
The reason why women don’t get paid the same percent is because you can’t look at percentages when you could have a negative somewhere. There was a growth of jobs in Wisconsin 50% of total National job growth for a certain year, but that was illogical because some states lost jobs. For example, you could’ve said that California had like 130% of job growth that year
They wont lower the rim, but theyre happy to play with a smaller ball? Its so dumb... lower the damn hoop.
1) Lower the net (like other female sports)
2) Have different uniforms than men (like other female sports)
3) Stop publicly complaining about wages and sort that out during contract negotiations
1) Pointless
2) Pointless
3) There's nothing to sort out. They don't make any money so their current salaries are already too high
As a volleyball player its insane how the rim in basketball is the same height for both genders.
1) WNBA loses money annually, your revenue share would be negative
2) She doesnt get money from jersey sales because no one is buying her damn jersey 😭😭
these women are so delusional
Imagine going to work and losing your company money, getting to keep your job and complaining about your pay. WOW!!!!
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I really don't see this league going anywhere and I believe it deserves to die and seeing the NBA where it's at, it's not getting any better either. The 90's was the golden era for men's basketball and to me for a while it's been over, let alone any hope for the WNBA.