Scientifically Dismantling the WNBA Pay Gap Argument
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- The WNBA has been around since the late 90s, and it seems like the only time they're relevant is when a player gets thrown into a Russian prison, or the women are demanding a raise.
As someone who's been a fan of the NBA since I was 8 years old, I've never really cared or noticed the WNBA- and I know many of you watching can relate.
In high school, my friends would always poke fun at how bad the WNBA is- I didn't know anything about the WNBA then since it was never on TV.
But I'll never forget the first time I was exposed to the league.
ESPN was doing an interview with a WNBA player- her name's Brittney Griner- you may know her as the WNBA player that was trapped in Russia.
Now Griner is 6'10".
And the interviewer asks her to throw down a dunk because it's uncommon for females to be able to dunk on a 10-foot hoop.
She goes up and misses her first attempt.
At that point, I'm thinking, 'ok, everyone gets one.'
Before trying her second attempt, she makes sure her laces are tied.
and after that dramatic build-up, she misses again.
At that moment, I'm thinking this has to be a skit- but nope. It's 100% real.
Now don't get it twisted, she'd probably cook me 1 on 1, there's no doubt about that- but really? This is what the best women's basketball league in America has to offer?
If you google WNBA dunks, you'll find a 2-minute compilation of every dunk that's happened in the last 26 years. Spoiler alert there's been less than 30, and only 8 players have been able to.
If you google WNBA highlights, the top search results are 10 minutes of WNBA fails.
But you know what? Anyone can stitch a bunch of lowlights together and make something look bad.
Just look at what Shaq did to Javale McGee early on in his career.
However, what truly convinced me that the WNBA is as bad as everyone says it is was this video that went viral this past summer.
So, just to give you some context, some WNBA team won a chip and decided to throw a parade expecting their fans to show up.
And nobody showed.
Not a single soul.
Despite the fact nobody cares about the league, the players aren't better or even as good as the NBA- even if they say they are.
The women of the league keep coming up with more arguments about why they should be paid better.
Why aren't they paid the same as the men?
First and foremost, let's address the elephant in the room, why is there a wage gap?
Statistically speaking, between the two leagues, there's a major difference in fan attendance and viewership.
The WNBA had 379,000 people tune in to watch during the 21/22 season across 4 major American networks.
Compared to the NBA, the NBA had 1.75M viewers that same season across the same networks.
More viewers = more commercials which = more money.
Last year, the WNBA generated $60M in revenue through tickets, merch, commercials and sponsorships.
Whereas their counterpart generated $10B through the same means of sales.
Finally, there's also a difference in the games played.
Each team in the WNBA plays just 32 games a season, plus playoffs.
And in the NBA, teams play 82 games plus the playoffs.
Fewer games = less screen time. Less screen time = fewer commercials, and fewer commercials = less money.
The more money the league generates, the more money it has to distribute among its players.
That's why there's a wage gap.
Despite people's assumption that the reason for the WNBA's lack of success is due to sexism- it couldn't be further from the truth.
The WNBA is subsidized by the NBA because women wanted their own basketball league.
And what happened?
Barely any women show up to the games.
Do you know what's even more ironic? More men watch the WNBA than women.
So in this video, we are going to analyze and dismantle three of the best arguments that WNBA players have come up with on why they deserve to be paid more.
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Lol, they love to complain and ask for donations but are not willing to work on solutions.
Divorce court will pay more, too bad they are all ugly or lesbians
Sounds like most women
"Why isn't my store selling products?"
"Well the store next door sells a few things you don't have, maybe you should add some of that to your store"
"Absolutely not"
@@kaya856 look at this delusional woman . Go support the wnba
@@kaya856 wbna is trash
Literally, Caitlin comes along and says, “Hey! I’m here and I got 1.5 million fans with me.” And the WNBA is like, “Nah, we good white girl.”
Yup
😂😂😂
not just that .... he specifically said , we got issue getting young women/girls attend those games....CC come and not only you got those you get young boys too! CC is their wish come true as business and they do everything they can to push her and the fans out!
EXACTLY
If the WNBA ended today. No one would even notice.
That's 🥶
Only far right wing sleepwalking nut cases won’t watch the WNBA
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The what?
The NBA wouldn't have to pay for them to play an inferior version of the sport.
imagine making 200k+ USD a year then essentially having half the year as vacation and being upset over that.
Actually, you have to train during the off-season or you come in out of shape (ask Aliyeah Boston)
average wnba salary for 2022 was 102 thousand . not close to 200000.
@@stevecourtois3741still an amazing amount for a league not making much money
@@stevecourtois3741102k is still well above the average. Ya it ain’t wealthy but that’s still a very good income
@@stevecourtois3741still double National median
WNBA players don't realize how right that Bill Burr was when he said that women would rather pay to watch women tear each other down in reality shows, and buy their products. Than they would pay to watch women come together as a team, to accomplish a common goal. That's why the Kardashians are making billions.
Women likes to watch men compete because strong men provides the best offspring and therefore men compete. Women on the other hand has never competed with each other like men does , men compete to propagate, women compete to...whatever.
Yeah - and he pointed out that women do not go to games nor could they even NAME a single WNBA team.
It’s definitely THEIR responsibility
Though this may hold SOME weight in certain avenues it’s just the fact that the WNBA is boring and the players(mostly owners) are too stubborn to lower the rims. Even then lady’s just aren’t as athletic as their male counter parts which inherently will gather less attention. But combat sports and table or track sports are different. Both genders are able to do them without changes or stuff like that. Some people men included would happily watch the WUFC over a men’s basketball game. WNBA is just not it is all
@@ENLIL100 Women's softball and volleyball are far more exciting to watch because of the way that they compete against each other. Yet they don't get paid at all, to have their own leagues, how messed up is that?
Crazy that they’re complaining about money, while they’re getting 6 figures a year to play 32 games.
They get to play their favorite sport for an excellent salary, and they barely have to play any games. They’re incredibly lucky to be making any money
They're overpaid!!
40 plus playoffs
They are complaining about their pay, and they have never been profitable in 28 years. The NBA foots the bills for the league. They lose about 10 million a year.
All them doesn't get 6 figure some get 75,000
All the while, the league is not making any money. They are dead weight for the NBA....UNTIL Caitlin!
WNBA players should be forced to take financing classes so they understand what every one else already does.
Women have a need to be right that allows them to ignore the truth.
Wouldn't do any good.
Bingo
...Only married men pay for things they don't really like---and ironically the party that they're buying said thing for, can't even name 3 wnba players.
@@joxyjoxyjoxy1exactly bro they already know or should already know how a business in America works
What? There's a WNBA now??
Never underestimate a woman's ability to deny all accountability
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and the men too. There are white knights out there. it's actually scary.
AND BLAME US (MEN) FOR ALL OF IT!
It never fails, they have snake like hearts.
"The skill level is off the charts in women's basketball." You could tell he didn't believe it even as the words were coming out of his mouth.
Plus the culture of the WNBA sucks. No one wants to support an organization that is spoon fed money because they can’t fustian themselves. No one wants to support a buncha dike-ish women who hate their own country. They need an attitude adjustment. I’d love to get paid half a million for playing a sport I love.
As compared to other women. Wait until the first player willing to go trans decides they would rather be the biggest fish in a pond full of minnows than a minnow in pond of sharks.
Facts like WTF 😅😅😅 off-the-charts where
She's right..They decent players and terrible players..that's pretty off to me 😂
Im pretty sure that Haley Van Lith would kick your ass one on one. Being able to dunk means you are tall not skilled.
If there is no revenue and you're always in the negative.... You should be happy you still have a fucking job. Thank the NBA for your job.
The NBA is stuck with them. And they will never cut off the WNBA because if they do that league will scream racism and sexism and blah blah blah. The reasons why the WNBA is not doing well are obvious yet their player's don't wanna hear it.
Wish the nba spoon fed me too! Shiiiiit I'll take that job lol I don't even have to put much on my body all wnba players are weak and talentless
Thank you NBA. Wait. Im not even in the WNBA. Im a man. Fuck you WNBA.
A 6 figure salary job too. That's still good money
@@harveyharutunyan7360 And they play a couple of months out of the year
Imagine having a company for 25 years that has never turned a profit and all of your employees want a pay raise
the WNBA already has a smaller ball, a shorter 3 point line, and a shorter duration game. But nooooo, we can't have a 9 foot rim. SMH.
Take your logic and gtfo
That part
And don't forget they have a shorter season too.
For real like honestly getting paid $200,000 for 30 games is pretty nice especially when I know my companies losing money and then if you’re a bench warmer cool, you’re getting paid a quick 100,000 to do nothing but practice. Honestly it’s ridiculous this would be a completely different story if they were actually having people coming to their games and it was a good product but they talk about revenue dude there is no revenue to share 😂
Because society has told them there equal they wanna be men make it basketball for women they try to play it like men lower the hoop is a great suggestion
As a father of 2 daughters that love basketball I can honestly say that if these WNBA players seriously cared about aspiring young female players, they would stop crying for equality like victims and start pushing for equity. This would begin with the WNBA lowering the rim to 9ft. This is no different than having smaller balls for smaller hands…
Average height in the WNBA is approx 6ft. There's an argument for it to be lowered to 8ft IMO
@@TheBigThinker944 Yea I'm definitely not convinced 9ft is enough.
Also 75% of the players are masculine LGBT chicks. Who wants watch a bunch of women chest bumping, wearing baggy clothes and pretending to be men? The girls also get their attitudes from 🍆 envy. Their pride gets in the way.
They need to gain female viewers and fans and stop expecting men to pick up the tab for them. You could lower the rim to 5 ft and no one would give a single shit. Women don’t watch at the same levels men watch sports and therefore any bullshit changes you make to the sport is only to convince men to watch. That’s the problem. If women don’t want to support and spend their money on female sports than why bitch and moan about a gap and expect men to close the gap or cater to men to make the sport worth watching? It’s so easy to understand.
Even with lowered hoop, I doubt that WNBA will increase fans and viewers
Wnba players claiming to be underpaid is no different than me complaining I'm an underpaid golfer, even though I'm a 20 handicapper whom zero people pay to watch.
They literally don't understand they are entertainers.
Or complaining that female powerlifters don't get as much attention when they lift half as much as men do
entertainers need an audience so.....................................
Because they're not entertaining😂
Dude I'd totally pay to watch you play 18. I'll pay the green fees and cart fees and hack up the course with you. I'm probably a 25 handicap so I won't slow you down much.
I sat down and watched a WNBA game recently. 5 minutes into the game I felt like I was watching a freshman boys high school game. I forced myself to watch all of it. It was brutal! Never again!
Why didn’t u leave
At halftime was the combined score over or under 50 points?
Sounds about right. Professional women are equivalent to high level 14 and 15 year old boys.
Notice the wording she uses. "I don't GET a dime." Rather than "I don't EARN a dime." WNBA has been subsidized since day one and has never made a net profit.
or even came close to even!!!
They’re unwavering in their mindset that there’s no faultiness in their product. Delusion is the theme, not confidence.
Nobody needs science to explain the basketball pay gap. Just a rudimentary understanding of economics. Something like this:
- WNBA players are at approximately the same skill and athleticism level as middle school boys.
- Nobody wants to watch middle school boys play basketball except their parents.
- Therefore, nobody wants to watch the WNBA.
- If nobody watches, there's no money. You're lucky this joke of a league even exists at all. (Yay feminism! 🤡)
There, I explained it non-scientifically.
Shaq's & TMac's proposal to lower the rim is brilliant, but they (ladies) just hate to admit when a guy is right
Facts. They also play with a smaller ball and in a smaller court
@@SwishTalk1 the court isn't smaller the 3 point line is shorter.
No way; lowering the rim would throw everything off...it's 10 feet at every level from the very start. Shrink the ball another inch in circumference instead.
That's not it. The current players don't want that, because they'll have to relearn. One of the players even admitted this. And they know they can't relearn, because their intelligence level is... low.
@JohnSmith-zw8vp Nah, it's an ego/pride thing. They're pro athletes, meaning the best women in the world at what they do, and people are telling them they're still not good enough. Their response is basically an "F U", which is honestly understandable, but not at all constructive.
4 years ago, when my son was in 8th grade his gold level AAU team played the local HS girls Varsity team who went to the state semi-finals here in California. They played half the quarters with the full sized ball and half with the women's ball. The 8th grade boys won the standard clock game 114 to 17. This includes the fact that the boys were no longer allowed to fast break after the first quarter. They also basically goofed around and loosened the D in the second half, where the girls scored nearly all of their 17 points.
wnba produces negative $12 million a year. players would have to pay $83,000 a year to play. that would be fair.
Maybe if they put actual effort into promoting the season, they'd actually make a profit.
Imagine a restaurant serving only one kind of dish that sells poorly even after 10 years, and then refuse to change the menu because it would "take time to adjust".
"Layla is into dance, but my next child will be dropstep dunking."
Congratulations, I hope he makes the NBA.
Lmfao savage AF 😂😂
They need to play European style or Princeton bball.. No one wants to see Ellen Iverson or girls dunk, you know those dunks are gone be ugly af too.. Make great passes smart plays great shooting... Don't play like men
…and her next child is by a white woman. I doubt any of Candace’s DNA is in there.
😂
A "pay gap" would mean wnba players were playing in the same league as the men players. Why dont they understand this??
Unequal pay is not the issue, Unequal skill is.
Lack of interest and lack of revenues.
You ever watch women’s basketball ? Skill? Lmao women are normally more skilled due to less athleticism. Y’all just say shit
Being able to dunk is not a skill. The NBA is full of flying clowns that do not know how to play basketball. Drafted on potential rather than talent. Its trash.
Why do you think its easier to score in the NBA than in Europe or a place like Australia? Hint - its not just the dumbed down NBA rules that promote scoring - its the fact that typical NBA players are dumb low IQ and unskilled flying clowns that do not know how to play basketball... Ever seen Shaqtin a Fool?
people arent equals and men and women arent equals either. we can do different things. men and women arent supposed to do the same shit. no mother can be a father and no father is a mother also. womens sports looks childish even compared to college mens basketball
There is no wage gap. A "wage gap" implies that different employees/workers/contractors of the same or similar employer are paid differently to do the same job despite having equal skills, qualifications, and experience, and producing similar results.
So funny coach said he would empty his bank account and put up his house, instead of just letting her down easy. Savage
😂😂 it cracks me up every time
For real and that dude is literally a legendary coach for UConn. You know the most successful women’s basketball program ever and he keeps it real like they have to realize this is a product, not a sport I mean look at the NFL and NBA they do a lot of rule changes that benefits scoring, because generally people like watching high score games for the Casual audience would enjoy higher scoring games I mean that’s why when NBA players play FIBA is a completely different game because one was made to be more enjoying all the others just purely the sport and I think it’s ridiculous of these chicks with a smaller ball of shorter three-point line Ellis 30 game season think having a 9 foot rim is the worst thing ever 😂
He cares about his reputation.
Though I do have to point out that this video implies that Geno was her coach. She went to Baylor, and Kim Mulkey was her coach. Getting that woman to say anything about Griner is like trying to get blood out of a stone.
What a line, leave it to Gino to give em a dose of reality. I'm actually impressed at how well the NBA players responded, they could've gone completely nuts on her and instead they just quietly smirked and called her delusional.. Which she is...
I tune into professional sports to see athletes do things I can’t do. I dunked for the first time at age 15. I played higher level basketball than the wnba. I have no real reason to watch subpar athletes unless it is my own kids in Junior high
If the WNBA always wants to complain about the NBA, then the NBA should just withdraw all financial support from the WNBA, and let them run 100% of their own basketball league. That way they can determine their own fate, and distribute the revenue any way they see fit. I'm not sure how long they would last given that they have been losing money for the past 26 years.
Hell yeah let them go broke so we don't to hear their bullshit
I'm sure they wouldn't last half a WNBA season before they're playing for free in a public park, and it won't be in the most popular public park either
They wouldn't know how to😂.
Great comment!😊
I actually feel bad for that team who had no one show up to their parade. That is beyond embarrassing, it’s soul crushing.
It's not up to the male players of the nba to be on the hook for the women's pay gap.
The current nba players are getting paid because of the revenue that they bring in.
Based on equality, wnba players should also want their pay based on the revenue that they bring in.
Olimpic rowers put a lot of time into being competitive but there isnt any money
Well said, except I would change "pay gap" to "profit margins". The WNBA players want equal revenue shares, but this isn't possible and is a bit misleading because profit and revenue are very different. The NBA makes so much revenue that despite their players getting ~50% of it, the owners still profit. The wnba doesn't have more money to give because it isn't even making a profit. It's all about the profit margin.
Women want equality, but they won't protest for plumbers, construction workers, electricians to make their workforce 50% female. WNBA is basically a welfare league eating off the crumbs of a spare couple million to support their league provided by the NBA
I live in Phoenix. My distain for Britney Greiner is such that you'd have to pay me at minimum $50 an hour to watch The Mercury. I would rather watch pro bowling or Olympic Curling than ANY WNBA game.
That coach is a savage. Selling his house and betting all his money against his own player 😂😂
They wont lower the rim, but theyre happy to play with a smaller ball? Its so dumb... lower the damn hoop.
"Nobody showed up, not a soul." COME ON MAN, lets be accurate. I saw AT LEAST 10 people down there.
My bad 😂
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I think those were just people on the street, going about their lives. The ""parade""😂, was just passing by at that time. Admittedly there was the ONE guy, "wooooo!"
When I saw the clip for the first time I thought the shadows from the trees were 3 groups of crowds and thought wow that's rough... Then i squinted my eyes and realised those were shadows and there was only one group of people in the middle and there was about 6 of them, god.
When I saw the clip for the first time I thought the shadows from the trees were 3 groups of crowds and thought wow that's rough... Then i squinted my eyes and realised those were shadows and there was only one group of people in the middle and there was about 6 of them, god.
I remember hearing about Griner and thinking to myself "Oh yeah, the WNBA is a thing." I had a co-worker mention that the WNBA actually loses money on their games and I naturally I asked how they can stay afloat if they're always losing money. And he just said, "The NBA."
Split the debt up between all the WNBA players
It's like a person that never pays their share of the rent complaining because you never do the dishes
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It’s always been crazy to me when they say “we want the same revenue % shared” like bitch where is the revenue????
"Revenue" will be gross not net. It's laughably dishonest.
She really tried to get hostile and all it did was make her look stupid lol
I just hate that people jump to the dumbest conclusions when there is a disparity between 2 people or 2 groups. Generally, there are hundreds of reasons that lead to 2 people having differences in their lives. Its generally not because everyone hates women or are racist or bigoted.
When you are a self sufficient league, then you could start pushing for more pay.
Women need to support the WNBA. The league also need to add more teams, increase the roster sizes, guarantee rookie contracts. Get better TV deals. Market the players better.
You get no money from a jersey sale? What about the 2 your parents bought? Only 2 were sold? Doh!
Your jersey revenue came in. Here's your $20. 🤣😂
I never watched a single game in person or on TV. Could careless about the league until Clark got drafted.
Ultimately, no matter how many times they lie… its all about LIFESTYLE, not livelihood.
Their out here acting like six figure salaries for 4-5 months of work places them below the poverty line smh.
I even have friends who like to tune in and watch NBA games all the way from Malawi over here; that's how popular it is
It used to be when a company didnt make money they went under. This is what happens when everyone gets a trophy.
"Why can't we have the same revenue sharing as the men?"
Nate the Lawyer did a breakdown of this a little while back, and his conclusion was that if the women split the revenue with the league they would have to pay tens of thousands of dollars every year.
Every WNBA player should write a Thank-you card to each NBA player every year for making their season possible.
That championship parade looked like a funeral procession-scratch that, more folks would show up for the procession.
It really infuriates me that adults can partake in such an inferior product, make more money than most Americans and still complain. I worked in sales for a few years - I laughed when it was payday and people would complain while dismissing the sales numbers that show you’re not in their league.
Sometimes you just have to accept failure.
Have u tried telling a women she is wrong?
That championship parade with literally the guy recording the video the only one cheering reminds me of that Family guy bit about the WNBA 😅
What if someone lowered the rim a few millimeters every game until they could dunk and no one told them?💡🤔
lmbo!
They have trained for years to shoot using a regular size rim..... And only idiots care about dunks.
they would STILL miss an easy lay up.
Lowering the rim wouldnt even help. Their dunks would be garbage the same way everything else they do is. You aint gonna see 360 windmills.
Can't play defense because they have no sense of strategy or competitive instinct, can't layup, can't shoot, can barely rebound
@@standardofexcellence adult females are nothing more than old children. They lack the size, strength, logic, analytical skill and coordination of men.
Naw. You can do fun n entertaining shit on lower goals.
Exactly. Lowered hoops don't increase vertical jumping ability. Griner looks like she jumps about a foot off the ground...
1) WNBA loses money annually, your revenue share would be negative
2) She doesnt get money from jersey sales because no one is buying her damn jersey 😭😭
these women are so delusional
this by far been the best WNBA video I’ve seen. Excellent job brother.
This is the typical far right wing sleep walking bs video.
This is the typical far right wing sleep walking bs video.
These ladies need some humble pie. Instead of denigrating the NBA and US society they should be thankful for the opportunity to play for money. If they weren’t subsidized the league would have folded after Sheryl Swoopes retired.
Even saying there's a "wage gap" concedes too much. Male and female players do not play for the same organisation. The idea of a wage gap is incoherent in these circumstances. There's no reason why anyone should expect to earn the same as someone else just because they work the same profession.
There isn't a 'wage gap' between chefs who work at michelin starred restaurants and chefs who work at Olive Garden.
When the WNBA generates negative income, they should just quit instead of asking for higher pay. Negative income means no money for your wages.
Stop loosing $10 million a year and expect to get paid more. That's not how business works. Selling out games, sell more merchandise.
thats how feminism and woke women work
Rafael Nadal was asked by a female journalist about why the ale tennis players get paid more than female tennis player. He answered female models get paid more than male models, doesn't that count? If the WNBA wants to be really honest with themselves, then they have to look at the standard of the players, they also have to acknowledge that hardly anyone is interested in women's sport, any sport. The exception being tennis. The only other time large numbers watch women's sport is the Olympics.
Nobody cares about women's soccer, except for the world cup. Nobody cares about women's golf, nobody cares about women's basketball except for the Olympics.
You got to make a profit first then negotiate better pay wages
Not under feminism, all they have to do is keep up the narrative that they are being discriminated against.
@@jinov191 The majority of the United States are women so blame women for buying more NBA tickets than Wnba tickets.
@@timothytaylor9835women aren’t the majority demographic for the sports audience tho. Women do dominate the retail industry tho, it’s why ads for nearly every product (including male products) are aimed at women.
They seem to think that they should be paid like NBA payers when they do not generate 5% of the revenue an NBA team does. The best WNBA team can not beat a top high school team. Their demands are laughable.
They play 32-games season-adding games would be a greater financial disaster, most folks don’t want to pay for what they get to see on the the court.
The biggest WNBA trade was the trade that got Brittney Griner from jail.
why play with a smaller ball, if you don't want to lower the rim.
Because they have smaller hands
@@AdamB34 You do understand the point, don't you? The WNBA is willing to use a different size ball - to accommodate a physical difference between men and women, but not willing to consider (or even try) lower hoop?
and shorter season, game and 3 point line.
Without the NBA footing the bill non of the WNBA would be getting a check from the charity league
Women in sports are equally as skilled as men. Not their fault theyre smaller and less athletic. But when Kelsey Plum said that, she was wrong. Now that Caitlin Clark is done, the moment the WNBA becomes a profitable league, they need to get their players more money.
I'm a woman and I love to be entertained. I wanna see Dunkin'😆
How weird... You are the first person who I've randomly read comments for on two differnt videos. Yesterday, I saw a comment you made on a Kevin Samuels video. Lol
@@BratvaTV I'm all up and through these internet streets 😅🖐️
@@JustBree716 well, nice to meet ya and I'm sure I'll cya around. Lol
Duncan doughnuts needs to sponsor and they can use the slogan the only chance you will any dunkin
Then watch the NBA. Or men's college hoops. Or boys HS ball.
There’s people on this planet getting payed a quarter million a year to play a childhood game at a child’s level? And I’ll make $40k hiking 10+ miles/day with a 65lb pack
That coffee analogy at 10:35 was spot on. Things can both be the same, and different at the same time!
It would be so refreshing to see just one of them be like "oh. Yeah I think you’re right"
Just like a normal humble human being
Revenue sharing to match the NBA? OK. The NBA pays roughly 50-51% of the league revenue to players. So they get about 5 billion since the NBA generated a net profit of 10 billion last year.
WNBA loses 10 million a year. So the players need to collectively cough up 5 million just to be allowed to have their own league while thanking the NBA for subsidizing the other 65 million to allow them to even set foot on an NBA court.
If they turned the WNBA into a reality show with a behind the scenes, drama, scripted stuff, THEN women would watch. Majority of sports fans are men. They expect us to also watch womens sports? Why? Its a diluted product. Sports is about top tier athelticism. If the roles were reversed and men couldnt dunk, couldnt run fast, couldnt jump high, but women COULD we would eat that shit up. Unless they change the product or the audience, they wont get anything. Less complaining and more solutions. WNBA players think they are on equal levels with NBA players in terms of rights, they are not.
SELL MORE TICKETS, MAKE MORE MONEY; not hard to understand. They just feel entitled and are completely delusional.
This league is the living definition of unnecessary stubbornness to try and prove a point. They all try to make it seem like a lower rim would be some sexist disrespect, but none of them realize or admit that in every sport where physical size and body proportions are a serious part of the sport womens is shorter/closer/smaller. Shaq had a point about volleyball nets, but as a former male volleyball player the hight difference is closer to 6.5 or 7 inches, not .5
The height differences are present in everything from volleyball to track and field, from softball to golf. Its not sexist either, its scientific. Women on average will be shorter than men so the heights are adjusted for the differences.
And what makes the argument even more illogical is they play with a smaller ball because they have smaller hands, they have a closer three point line to account for strength differences, so why not play on a lower rim to account for height differences?
Lower the rim for the NBA and watch the shooting percentages drop. These women have been playing with a regular height rim for years so you cant just lower in to get a few dunk highlights. Only idiots care about dunks anyway. ANd yeah - most NBA fans are %$%$ing idiots.
Average salary for the WNBA is 100k, average salary for the UFC is around 80k. And that’s an organization that makes billions every year.
Yeah that’s pretty messed up and the fighters are putting their lives on the line every single time they step in the octagon
This is similar to an actor getting pissed for not getting as much money as another actor who had a more successful film. If you can’t bring in the dough then you can’t make the bread.😂
All I can think of is George on Seinfeld when they're writing the pilot and only get offered 13k between them...
"Ted Danson gets at least 60k an episode!"😂😂😂
They want to get paid big money but don't want to compromise with anything? Forget them, I rather watch High School basketball.
End of the day, you're entertainers. Lower the hoop, make it bigger, use a smaller ball, NBA should just make the changes. If the players want to give up six figures and stay home, I'm sure you can find others that will be happy to take their places. The regular season (2023) runs 5/19-9/10. 16 weeks, 32 games, 100 grand. Nice summer job.
They already have a smaller ball.
Jesus Christ. Why would an And1 fan like yourself even care? You arent going to watch it unless everyone else is right? Ha. Are you still watching And1 though? HA. Ya like dunks do ya? Clown.
If that parade was for a NBA team, there would be nowhere left to stand.
😭😭 yo that parade tho ,😭😭😭 Catlin, Cameron brink saving they ass frfr 😂
They should be paid less for playing so bad! That should shut 'em up!
The investors were russians
Makes sense
Can you imagine asking your boss for a raise if you both knew the company was losing tens of millions of dollars a year?
lol at 6 10 and cant dunk? i was almost able to in high school at 5'9"
when i was 30, 6'4 and weighed 310, in shape. i could dunk about half my attempt's. as for rim height, 6 inch's would not even ber noticed.
These women have no clue! There’s zero excitement on your games.
I would play basketball for 30k a year
hell yeah
The value in dunking in basketball is so high THEY LITERALLY HAVE A COMPETITION FOR IT!!!!! The hype around the dunk contest proves that.
The NBA should flat out sell the WNBA to completely run themselves, same thing for all the women's leagues that are subsidized by the men's leagues.
I really don't see this league going anywhere and I believe it deserves to die and seeing the NBA where it's at, it's not getting any better either. The 90's was the golden era for men's basketball and to me for a while it's been over, let alone any hope for the WNBA.
The reason why women don’t get paid the same percent is because you can’t look at percentages when you could have a negative somewhere. There was a growth of jobs in Wisconsin 50% of total National job growth for a certain year, but that was illogical because some states lost jobs. For example, you could’ve said that California had like 130% of job growth that year
This is great. Now make one on women's soccer as well. Because they seem to have a hard time "getting it" as well.
Women's soccer is different, those women actually deserve more than the men. The attention and excitement in their play... now WNBA Basketball nah ..
Eliminate the wnba. Have them workout for nba teams. Then they can negotiate nba-size contracts.
As a volleyball player its insane how the rim in basketball is the same height for both genders.
The WNBA needs to break away from the NBA and get their own deals! They may find that NOBODY CARES!!!!
The facts Breanna is painfully missing are they already use a smaller ball, have a shorter 3-point line, play shorter quarters and a shorter season. It's already Little League basketball.
I agree with the notion that basketball is not just dunking and that if you appreciate basketball you can appreciate the WNBA. If you enjoy coffee but only get Starbucks heavily filled with creamer, sugar and milk (aka only like dunks) then no you won't try every coffee out there. If you appreciate coffee then you will try every coffee out there