The WNBA Needs A Reality Check
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
- The WNBA Needs A Reality Check
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What's good everybody, it's treese, and despite having a lot of potential in the global market, the WNBA fails to reach its' promise year after year. Several narratives surrounding the league need to be suppressed, and certain WNBA players must understand the reality of their league. This video is not at all intended to incite hatred amongst basketball fans towards the WNBA, rather an objective view on some controversies surrounding the WNBA and what the league as a whole can do to improve.
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I just want to put this out there: DON'T hate on the WNBA for no reason-- you can criticize statements at your will but there is NO room for unnecessary hatred in this world during a time like this.
I enjoy watching women's basketball and the WNBA has a lot of potential, but in order to move forward, I believe that certain players and fans need a reality check.
NO HATRED IS TOLERATED! Let's discuss how to make the WNBA a more entertaining product.
I love u treese papi
No homo
It’s the same here in Europe with the female footballers.
@@ibk2205 Uno reverse card!
@@TREESEhoops dam............
@@theedge205 I don't follow much football... is it the same issue?
I'm so mad. I had 2 WNBA tickets in my car and today someone broke into my car and now there are 4 WNBA tickets.
Right man! Can't give the tickets away and can't even burn them! Every time you try to throw them out, they appear in the same spot!
Lmao 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
HA, now that is funny!!!
Lmao
That’s a good Charles Barkley reference
WNBA is an inspiration to my grandma. She suffered a leg injury in an accident but one day while watching WNBA she was able to walk in front of the TV and turned it off.
Lol 😂
Lmao your comment deserve a million likes
Classic
Nailed it
Not gonna lie, you had me at the first half.
As Bill Burr stated, it’s not our job to make the WNBA work, talk to all the feminist on tv, or better yet pull all NBA funding and let it stand or fail on its own
Facts! If it’s SO great, then let it stand on its own, when it inevitably falls flat, they have no one to blame but themselves.
The women who wants this and fighting for this, now it's here where are they at to help support WNBA???
What the WNBA players don't understand is who is the market. Look at who are the fans of profitable Women sport's Women's tennis? Women UFC women's pro boxing? women's Volleyball? It's men because the great majority of men don't watch sports. Everything is about promoting for girls to watch the game. It's like minor league baseball saying they have the same attraction as the majors. The only thing that have is being a local team. It's about loyalty to a team more then being a world start. They want don't have the brand of the NBA being a world wide produce. They are local starts to niche fans. One of the highest respect is when you you say a jersey number and people knows the player. The number is better then the name. Number 23 and i don't have to tell anyone who knows basketball who I talking around the world. They got the heads so stuck up an Ideology they don't care about the fans.
That sounds exactly like what Frank would say, lol
@@faervas1234I mean Luka is one of the most marketable guy out there, he shout them out and instead of respond nicely or not saying anything at all, They decided to bashed him on twitter for no reason…. So yeah at least from Europe, WNBA is not well-liked here at all😂
Instead of going to jail, criminals should get WNBA season tickets with mandatory attendance. That would clean up the streets in no time.
Lmfao 😂 😆 🤪 dude understated comment
OMG LOL
Let the wnba games be played in prisons talk about rehabilitation, prisoners would become saints
XD
Definitely would
I'm glad the WNBA attendance has stayed consistent throughout this pandemic
Yeah Nil!!!!!!😂
Bro ur violating 🤣🤣
Outstanding comment
Go off 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bro u just violating now🤣🤣🤝
I met a girl who was an absolute BB fanatic. When I asked her if she followed the WNBA. Her reply, "why would I watch a game of shoot and miss."
Lol
DEAD
OH SH-
Absolute annihilation
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The number thing kills me. Anyone in sports knows we call each other by number! My entire high school career I was 78. Someone people didn't even know my first name just my last name and number!
On the Court you're a Number, not a "Unique and Special Individual with your own Personal Special Identity" you are a Member of a Team!
These girls (Yes I said girls! That's the way they act!) don't understand that!
I wasn't called by my first name until I retired. It was number or maybe last name. Maybe.
John Madden one-time NFL coach used to refer to the players of next game’s opponent by their numbers. It’s less intimidating to refer to #99 or #12 than Aaron Donald or Tom Brady. Besides, in the NFL if you can read their name on the jersey they’re already past you.
Anyone who plays sports knows that your number is just as good as your name. It’s why we always go for the same jersey number every year, and if you play multiple you get the same number.
That part upset me, was a great point though-major boots up their salty arses.
I remember when the Griner Cousins thing was happening. I said it speaks loads when her own Olympic coach said he would litteral bet his house against her.
Her voice is disturbingly deep. She on the anavar?
@@Revenant2010 Britney is a dude.
@@Revenant2010 BG is on testosterone, in "her" case it's natural.
I’ll take that bet too.😂😂😂
@@357say same, I would sell my house at a profit now, sell all my worldy possessions, take out a loan for as much as a bank would allow, then bet every single penny on Boogey
imagine being terrible at something, making 6 figures doing it, and still complain like youre a victim.
that's the problem with social justice warriors . . .
Well... the fact that they are there means that probably they are the best women at basketball. The problem with the talent is concerning, but basketball is more popular among men, so its natural that from a smaller pool of talent there is a worse average. Also, most of them do not earn 6 figures. They earn much less than that (yearly). But still, they earn proportionally to what they generate or whatever they achieve through collective bargaining.
@@kumayasei but they dont even seem like the best athletes, look at the women competing in track and field they look like they are on a different level
@@hoosthere yes but basketball isn't always about the most athletic body... just look at examples like Stephen Curry, Steve Nash, Dirk Nowitzki. Compared to male basketball players they may look trash, but you can't really compare the top 0.001% elite athletes taken from a pool of dozens of millions of players worldwide, that enter a system and culture in which they train since they are old enough to hold the rock with the talent pool that is available for women basketball, much more limited in number and in reach and scope of training, preparation and overall quality
@@kumayasei I get that but they are supposed to be the top athletics and skill to be pros and some don't look like they ever do any training, I mean look at gymnast, track and field, ballet dancers they are ripped
This is literally the most WNBA I have ever watched.
Same bruh
Guilty too
@@pedrojordan5759 nothing to be guilty about...It's kinda norm
@@superfreak3050 to watch this much WNBA? Def not the norm for me
@@bobzombie2710 the honesty in this thread is killing me lmfao
With all due respect, you can't be OK with them giving away a dunk contest trophy to a female when she didn't win it, then brink up their defensive/aggressive behavior because they are being enabled. They need a solid dosing of humble pie!
Every time the women in the WNBA ask for more money, the question should be asked publicly and of those women, "Where is the money going to come from to pay you what you are asking for?"
Yup. No one ever asks this question. That's the ultimate mic drop of a question.
"BaSkEtBaLl iSn'T aBoUt dUnKiNg!!"
Chicken isn't about spices, but they sure do make it better.
Please explain, what is chicken about?
@@mustscreamnomouth2692 chicken
If they can't dunk at least shoot 3s
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I actually agree tho. They basically always let the players travel to run for a dunk and I’m not really impressed with a dunk if the rim is like 2 ft. Above your head cuz you’re a giant. Basketball is the worst most flawed sport. “A game of shortcomings”
You could throw a grenade into the stands in a WNBA game without hitting anyone.
Especially if the grenade toss was a layup. It would miss the target completely.
Is that’s challenge?? Lol
Right now that’s true for the NBA too 😂😂😂. Finally the WNBA is equal to the NBA in something.
Y'all are killing me!!!!😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
If it was a WNBA player it would probably land on the court haha
Watching the players miss those wide open layups hurts.
In highschool with a group of friends we had some girlfriends playing with us. Mixed teams and at half we lowered the rim to 9. It was freaking great, the girls hit more layups and Amber dunked on Travis. Everyone exploded at the courts. Next thing we knew, all the girls wanted the rim lower.
“Don’t try to understand women. Women understand women, and they hate each other.” - Al Bundy
The Man, the Myth, The Legend.......Al Bundy!!! 4 Touchdowns in a single game!!! National Organization of Men Against Amazonian Masterhood!!!
No ma'am
😂😂😂😂😂😂! Not completely true, but funny as crap nonetheless.
@@MrHowhot I need to make a bunch of "No mam" shirts.
@@brendalove5981 I asked my girl and her and her mom both (at the same time damn near) agreed that from their experience women don't like each other but from how she put it, it sounds like women are just very competitive with each other for some reason, like I noticed even when she's with her best friends they're passive aggressive to each other, even though it's obvious they care about each other a lot. It's strange.
Guys are the same way though, albiet more blunt or sometimes violent which makes me think it's a weird primal thing we still have.
WNBA: we want the NBA to promote our league so we can get the recognition we deserve
NBA: Promotes league
WNBA: How dare you
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Don’t forget that the NBA is the only reason the WNBA exists. They fund the WNBA since it is not profitable. And the players STILL ask for more money
@@jordanbachynski8054 Facts
@@jordanbachynski8054 Yeah but you get paid more money working at McDonald’s than playing in the WNBA
@@malachiBRO_ hahaha funnyyyyy
My dad used to say, never needlessly make an enemy, but the WNBA seems to have a habit of doing so. The WNBA forgets every man has a mother, often has sisters, often has women he loves. We DO watch women's sports -- take tennis, for example. So it's not like men can't be persuaded to watch women's sports. However, it does need to be more entertaining and marketed with players who don't run their mouth constantly about pay equity, etc. and so on. The vast majority of the human race is poor and most of us will never play sports for a living. These women seem to forget that a lot.
Two things about women’s basketball…
1) The notion that women’s basketball is somehow exceptionally fundamental needs put to rest. A quarter of the plays are a fiasco.
2) Watch a women’s college game and count how many times a player ends up on the floor. Sometimes it is for good reason, yes, but most of the time it is chaos.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been in a sports bar and someone has said, “Hey. Can you put the WNBA game on?” I can’t tell you because it hasn’t happened yet.
I’ve done this a number of times, and it always starts a conversation whether or not they agree to change it.
Bro this is cold 😂
@@sjsnsnsnzn3352 I’m just calling it as I see it man. We have a WNBA team in New England, but here in Boston if you said, “Hey! Can you put the Connecticut Sun game on?” in a pub they’d look at you like you had three heads.
@Alahandra Mackabeem buddy re read 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Womens sports isn't really a hot topic inless you talk about tenis ,vollyball,soccer etc because womens sports are just getting popular and men are more aggressive then women so they'll get attention
I love the hypocrisy of being offended at the suggestion of lowering the rim, yet still playing with a smaller ball and a shorter 3 point line. I would have loved to see Tmac bring that up.
They also play short games and less games in the season I think they only play like 30-40 games a season. Smh...
@@subzero308 and they have the fucking nerve to ask for equal pay...🤦♀️🤦♀️
Her main issue with lowering the rim was that she'd been playing on a higher rim her whole life. Not the same thing
@@SOLARxCHAOS Nice try, but no. Go watch the actual clip again. The first things she talked about was how there was more to the game than dunking etc. *then* she thought about her getting used to the height. Those other points she made are invalidated by the fact that there are other things about the women's game that are unequal/easier, so they should never have been talking points.
@@Hotobu and what did she mean there are other thing happens in wnba other than dunk, literally nothing happens, 3? Miss, lay up? Miss, drive to basket? Miss, everything is a miss there, so tf she talk about, delusional.
let's say I'm a businessman. I have a restaurant that costs me 10k a month. I have a waiter and this restaurant generates 20k per month. I keep myself 18, 10k for maintaining it, 8k for my own profit, and 2k for salary. The ratio is 2 to 20 aka 10% salary. But if my restaurant were to earn me 100k per month, I would've taken myself 60k, 10k for the restaurant, and 50k for myself. Then my staff would've got a salary of 40k and that's is 40 / 100 aka 40% ratio. That is why they do not have neither good salary or good ratio.
They generate small amount of money, so they get lesser part of it, businessmen are not interested in earning $1, they always have their minimum expected income, and if that ain't happening, you get lesser salaries
The MLS was actually in a similar situation in the early 2000s. They were losing revenue, teams were folding, etc. But they made changes to the style of play, made smaller soccer specific stadiums they looked full with only 20,000 fans attending and now the league is set to surpass hockey and baseball.
Here’s to a brighter and better future for women’s basketball.
Never
I feel like women’s college basketball is more fun to watch then wnba
I agree-- women can't enter the WNBA until 22 and some of those college players are much more athletic than WNBA players.
i would also agree. its like Night and Day
Facts, maybe cuz the women can go into a different career and make more than WNBA lmao.
Just watching this vs UConn women or the like, it seems that the WNBA are playing a lot of 4s and 5s out of position at the same time fundamentals like passing to create spacing as well as taking shots while in control and/or moving towards or squaring to the basket are not common. Another thing to consider would be athletic primes of women may be a few years younger than men - maybe declining by age 28-30 for women instead of 30-32 for men. What do you peeps think ??
Same with european womens basketball. They seem to hit decent shots more often
Reality
WNBA History: 21 Dunks
Steph Curry (6'2 PG Known for a lacking jump): 29 official dunks
that just hurts lmao 💀
dang curry actually had 29, thought it was like 11 or 12
I've had more dunks in a pick-up game (4) than Griner has had in her entire career (3).
No way! Im pretty sure Curry has had waaaay more dunks than that throughout his career.
@@Mr.PR2000 i actually thought he had less dunks throughout his career considering he only shoots 3's
Lmao Candace Parker did a normal dunk and beat JR Smith doing a behind the back dunk at the HS dunk contest
I remember when Ronda Rousey was on top in the UFC. She got asked a question about her not making as much as her male counterparts. She was like if I brought as much revenue to the organization like Connor or somebody. Then yes I'd be upset. But you get paid based of the value you bring to the organization just like any other job. Had mad respect for that response.
No she got hit with the Mayweather affect she talked shit about Mayweather and lost her very next fight no 😂😂😂 it's really a thing all the fighters who talk shit about Mayweather boxing or UFC end up losing there very next fight somebody made a whole video on this 😂
This never happened lol. Ronda was by far the most paid athlete in the UFC during her run. Conor, while always a big name, was still on his original contract by the end of Ronda’s loss at 193.
and add to the fact Ronda was bringing in the most revenue during her reign? Ufc193 had 56,000 people in one stadium just to see her. Plus she had the more than double Jon Jones (the 2nd biggest name during that time) ppv buys from 2010-2014
Ronda was being paid an insane amount for bringing so much to the UFC.. this is just false.
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"The skill level in the WNBA is off the charts!" That was an interesting statement he made as "off the charts" can mean two very different things.
Not even on the charts
Hehehe lol
I suppose it can mean anything, but the most common usage of "off the charts" is a positive statement.
Below the chart
I'm dead bro lmfao 😭😭😭
it’s insane that this is even a topic. The league hasn’t made a profit in 26 years FOR A REASON!! Anything else is nonsense and A waste of time.
Improve the product by dumping it
12:28 I hollered 😂 as soon as I heard "if there's no referee" I knew what was next was gonna be hilarious!
"Do women also hate women?"
Me, a man who occasionally pays attention to his gf venting: The answer is yes.
woman probably hate other woman more than a man. career woman hate housewife more than her male co-worker. this is a fact. the hate hierarchy probably housewife, female coworker, male coworker, female boss and male boss.
Lol. It’s truly a sad thing
"It's a good thing men don't understand women. Women understand women, and they hate each other..." -Al Bundy(I think)
Men hate men. Just yesterday a man killed another man over snow on his sidewalk. Why would it surprise us that women hate women.
People hate themselves 🤷🏾
If he'd called her out by name, nobody would know who the hell he was talking about.
I watched Ariel powers play basketball when she played for Michigan state. She was good, but not the best. She had that inflated ego even back then.
I clearly would have to google her up
lmao
@@acousticLU SAVAGE. Cameron the Barbarian.
😄
it’s literally disgusting this country traded a shitty “athlete” for the merchant of death. and there’s still a marine being held prisoner
This comment should have the most likes
You summed it up perfectly. The attitude from within the league is hostile and the players are driving away fans. Your average women's basketball fan understands the differences between men's and women's games. The skill disparity between the best and worst player on the court is much smaller in the women's game (same for soccer as well). I used to love the women's game because it was more team and passing oriented rather than being iso-ball and showing off 1v1 skills. It was entertaining because it was different and more pure.
There are three key things the women need to do to fix their league.
1. Stop trying to be the men. Stop trying to compare your product with theirs. It will always be inferior if your goal is to emulate the men and inferior products only sell well if they and much cheaper. Highlight what makes your league special and sell your product to fans.
2. Take steps to becoming financially viable. Operating at a loss is bad business and you'll never see more money. Lower your salaries across the board. Lower ticket prices to a point where you can fill a stadium. 400 tickets at $50 is worse than 1000 tickets at $30. Butts in seats builds the fan base and cheaper tickets fills more seats. Be the cheap entertainment option.
3. OUTREACH!!! This is arguably the most important. Host community events, have meet and greets, and be available. These players are not NBA stars getting mobbed wherever they go. They are minor celebrities that need to endear themselves to fans. Be available. Meet with kids. Make friends with people that can help support your salary. Stop being egotistical wannabe NBAers and know your place.
I make comparisons, but women's pro soccer and indoor men's soccer have to do these things. MLS went through this phase to get off the ground. Minor League levels have to do all this. Nobody goes to minor league baseball because it's the best product. They go because it's cheap, it's local, and they have a chance to meet players. The WNBA should not longer be an upstart league, but they've never really gotten the basics down to grow past that.
And since the league operates at a loss and survives on NBA assistance, filling a stadium is a better long term investment than maximizing ticket revenue today. If you can get 10k people to come and are making less, you've got 10k people exposed and more likely to show up again.
PS. If they want a 50% revenue share for salaries, wouldn't they owe the league money since the league operates at a loss?
Exactly. It's a process. It took decades to build pro sports at the men's level. Guys had to work during the off-season in order to supplement their income. It took took 40 plus years, and even longer in baseball, in order for the players to live VERY well from the sport. They also went through a myriad of rule changes and adjustments in order to improve the product, which they continue to do today. U can't be stagnant and expect a business to grow.
Theres a reason for the pay gap. There's people like me that would rather take $1 than a free wnba ticket.
I'd take 1$ over a NBA or NFL ticket too what's your point?
@@Shmayes81188 That is the most unexisting dark matter theory in the history of mankind. I hope you won't be strucked by lightning by what you have said😂
@@raffysungarngar3684 Listen man both products are just better on t.v ESPECIALLY a NFL game. Gimme the dollar.
I'd give 1$ rather than take a free WNBA ticket, if those were my only two options
There *is* no pay gap. There is an *earnings* gap.
WNBA game crowds had social distancing before social distancing
😂😂😂😂😂💯
Bruh! 🤣🤣🤣
They should have used their arenas for a hospital staging area since nobody else is there.
Trend setters, long ahead of their time
@@termlimits4congressx306 damn!
Somehow, even the BEST women college players find a way to play like crap in the WNBA. I do not know how it is possible! Maybe these women should not go home until they can make 20 in a row with no defense under the basket. No professional should miss these shots very often. There is no reason to work the ball in if you are going to miss the shot. There are even a few high-school players that are going to make these WNBA women look sad when they get there.
Can’t cook food, can’t cook on the court! 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
One of the saddest aspects of Kobe's and Gigi's tragic passing earlier this year is that it robbed the WNBA of a future superstar and it deprived the world of being able to see Kobe begin his second career as a WNBA coach and inevitably coach his daughter to multiple WNBA championships. A lot of us have never watched a WNBA game before, but who wouldn't pay good money to see Gigi hit fadeaways and play like a Kobe-clone with the Black Mamba himself coaching her on the sidelines. It would have been so beautiful.
Peter, you're right. Makes me sad.
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@JorgeJR what are you talking about? This isn’t just fan fiction but the two were actually heading down this path had the accident never happened. At 13 years old Gigi was already playing like her dad and Kobe had actually intended to start coaching women’s basketball after his daughter started playing. You can read about both of these here:
www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/ny-kobe-bryant-daughter-gigi-fadeaway-jumper-20191118-fvsf7mybdvhelhuewqhkwwctxa-story.html
www.boston.com/sports/nba/2020/01/27/kobe-bryant-gigi-basketball-uconn
@JorgeJR the difference is Kobe's daughter; Gigi, actually loved the game and was already showing that she was amazing for her age, hitting contested fadeaways, nice jumper and willigness to learn. You're just choosing to narrate it in a superficial way, but unlike MJs sons, she actually loved the game and was already showing great potential.
"The next time I watch a WNBA game, will be the first time I watch a WNBA game"
Norm MacDonald
Rip Norm
Me too LOL
Those air balls were for you, Norm. Throw up a brick in loving memory
I second this
And the last XD
90% of the WNBA game is jogging around and going lower then 0.50 for lay ups. No one is gonna pay to watch that over any other sport. They literally just need to get better. Get faster, jump higher, shoot better and the fans will come. But demanding more pay for such a mediocre product is just sad
If it's so unreasonable to expect you ladies to play basketball full time for what you are paid, then don't. Quit and go find a better job. This is 1000% jealousy of the money the NBA players make and nothing else. Most people would kill to be given the chance to make 100 grand doing something they love.
Imagine tweeting that your salary is only in the "low six figures" and expecting sympathy from regular people. 0 concept of reality. I guess I'll go to the CEO of my company and complain that they're not paying their employees 50% of their revenue... I'm sure I won't be fired.
Duh. Everybody gather around and look at this oxymoron. The women of the wnba do it to themselves. FEMALE LOGIC.
@@willmontano5281 logic? i dont think you can call that logic
@@DudemenProHI lol like I said, oxymoron. Its logical to them
Chances are the employees at your company actually do get collectively paid more than half of total revenue, but that's because you're talking about all the employees. What WNBA players are asking for is the equivalent of all the McDonald's general managers demanding to be paid half of all McDonald's revenue because they're running the stores, which is simply absurd.
If WNBA players were worth being paid the kind of money they want, they'd either have cultivated a profitable league via their performance, which they can't do, or they'd go try out and get signed on an NBA team, which they also can't do. And yes, any NBA team that had a woman try out and show enough talent to make the team would sign her. The fact is that there's not a single woman in existence who has that talent and there never will be.
@@johnwatsoniv384 the only reason for men get paid so much, as much as 50% of revenue is because the revenue is high enough, so the teams, orgs and league can afford it, also competition is high enough so money talks when it comes to contracts and so on.
When it comes to woman and their league, its being donated money into instead of generating its own. Its not about splitting profits, its something like asking your boss to raise your salary, pay you out of his own pockets while staying in red numbers. That shit is just absurd. If you have no profits, you have no revenue, they yiu get paid shit.
This feminism shit that's around us is just absurd.. They do get to play game they love.. Enjoy their live.. And make milions of $ in proces (their low six figure deal in $ would set them for life in my country if they keep that contract for few years running, for example, so this bitching someone makes more just pisses me off.). And pisses me even more when there's visible gap and no discusión about whos better. Like.. Idk what sport it was yif basketball or football, but fucking national team (winners of worlds) ot beaten by high school team full of teenage boys that literally make a peanuts, how the duck they can ask for equal.. Shouldn't then high school hoys with higher skill level make even more than them? My logic tells me they should.. Because people should be paid for their skills and what they do, not dor their gender.)
The mens case is, there are billions generated, so the teams don't care if they or the players get it, if it means their star players stay with them and sign contracts.
Brittney Griner has everything lower than Cousins: height, skill and voice tone
This comment deserves more.....I'm gonna play WNBA player here and ask for more please!!!! Though in this case it actually does deserve more 😆
Bro when I was 6’3 at 12 and I benched only 210 for reps my arms were miles larger than all these WNBA players LOL
And she uses a smaller ball to make it easier to make shots
Well sounding like a BIG MAN would make you call a calm and relaxed smoothly talking MAN sound like a little boy to you lmao an some women I just money hungry even the ones with money they just don't make enough on their own gotta take it from somebody
Make the hoop be 8 feet instead of 10 so that more than like 1 player can actually dunk, and more people would probably watch.
BG legit sounded like K Leonard when she laughed and Barry white when she talked. Lol
One player said that, as a rookie, she was given between $58k-$60k a year. If at any point in my life I made over $1k a week, I'd live like a king.
These women need to chill, I wish I can get an almost 6 figure salary playing like that. They are ungrateful as hell.
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I know bruh. At least they making bank
To play devils advocate: I've read that a huge chunk of sports player salaries go towards insurance, agents fees, etc. I don't know if that applies here, but they're probably making closer to the national median than the raw numbers imply. Still ungrateful, but less absurdly so.
You should of been born black we great at all sports 😂
really what about the most important sport "life" not too good at that is ya
I never realized how aesthetically unpleasing watching consecutive missed shots really is. It’s almost like my mind rejects it and makes me so uncomfortable
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I didnt know you can hate in a nice way. Roasting 💯
Frrr lmaoo
Everytime they missed open shots, I died a little inside. I dunno if its my OCD being triggered.
Who wouldve thought watching paint dry would hold a higher entertainment value than watching "professional" athletes try to promote a league that lacks the most basic fundamentals?
Thanks a lot. This is exact;y what the WNBA needs right now. I totally agree with the idea of reducing the rim to 9'5 ft because the ball size is already smaller compared to that of the NBA so why not?
Lowering the rim - a perfect metaphor for lowering the standards.
@@LeFraudHasChokedInSIXFinalsI don't think it's fair to say it's lowering the standards to lower the rim. Women in general are smaller then men. They literally can't reach the rim.
@@danilutka What about "metaphor" is over your head?
If people complain about WNBA players being paid less than NBA players, then they should also complain about G-League players being paid less...
It's a different league, of course they don't have the same salary, their league is making less money.
You can’t blame people for not watching the WNBA. People watch what they want to watch.
Exactly!
And it really has very little to do with the gender thing. Women's UFC and One Championship as well as tennis and football have proven people will watch women athletes. It's about entertainment. Unfortunately, as skilled as these ladies can be, the WNBA just isn't very entertaining. It's slow paced and not flashy.
Its mostly women who blame men for not watching it, while they won't even bother watching any sports.
YoU oNlY wAtCh MeNs SpOrTs CuZ dUh PaTrIaRcHy
I find men's tennis dull. Too many aces/faults (little action, tons of dead time). I like women's tennis, more action/strategy, longer rallies.
I find men's basketball exciting and women's basketball painfully dull (slow, missed layup/airball ratio too high).
If they lowered the rims to make in game dunking feasible they would get a lot better ratings. There's been more dunks in single NBA games than the whole history of the WNBA.
S very simple ... the WNBA is like watering a high school game... not being disrespectful
You want equality and lowering the rim is a going to do that ... it
Nothing will help their ratings, no one cares
If the WNBA allowed trans and be all inclusive and brave would be the only way the WNBA would have more dunks.
@@JW-fm2cy Unfair, A trans would become the best wnba player in one game
Brittney Griner: "Its okay little man"
Demarcus Cousins: " Okay big man"
One of my friends went to Game 2 of the WNBA finals a few years ago. He said when he showed up the arena nearly looked like a ghost town. And he assumed that he was early or that it was still warmups. So he asked one of the workers when tip off was. And they told him it was already the start of the second quarter.
At the amateur level your job is to score. When you turn professional your job is to sell tickets.
Underrated comment
and they cant do either
@@jayvionwilliams4061 lol. ya'll mean...and funny
“We only get paid in the low SIX DIGITS” wtf I wouldn’t complain if I got paid to dribble and miss.
6 DIGITS?!
Hahahahaha
Watched the video at 2X. Grand total of 20 points scored by WNBA players, including the dunk contest. I know that's not useful information, but I had some morbid curiosity to satisfy.
Tbh that’s not a lot. I do agree they should get paid more but not millions. Maybe like 200k to 300k a year? Hell even doctors get paid more than WNBA players.
My high school boys team could clap them so easily
Watching the airballs in the background 💀😂
I didn't know that it's physically possible to miss that many layups.
What is their shooting percentage, 20%?!?
@@philanderphillips2309 less than that 💀
You ain’t see me in PE then 😤😤😤
you haven’t seen me play lol
It is literally a compilation of lowlights tho, so it is meant to show only the worst fuckups. Remember even with a 99% hit rate, a professional basketball player who does hundreds of layups in a season can be made to look as though they have a 10% hit rate if only their lowlights are included.
Brittney Griner: "It's ok little man"
Griner is 6'9 205lbs, Demarcus Cousins is 6'11 270lbs
She sounds like a high school boy. Is this person a binary
@@RobimusPrime Transgender in plain sight ! She/ he not the only one ,by a long shot !
Brittney, 😜
Definitely a man!
She should try the G-League for 42k on a 50 game schedule.
There's one aspect of the women's game that is rarely if ever mentioned - explosiveness. 95% of the players lumber around, are incredibly uncoordinated, and move at about 70% of the speed of male players (NBA or otherwise). It's the same with women's wrestling, soccer, and hockey. There has never, ever been a moment in the WNBA where a player exhibited a "WOW" moment of athleticism. Dunking or not, that is the reason I find it so deeply uninteresting.
There is no gender restriction in the NBA, right? So why don't all these female ball artists find an NBA Team and make the big bucks?
As far as I understand the WNBA players they play the "highest level of basketball" in the WNBA, so the NBA should be a piece of cake for them...
"Hey I want 50% of your revenue".
- Ok, we lost 2 million. You owe me 1 million. You're welcome.
The WNBA loses $10 million a season...so they deserve half of minus 50% of ten million dollars which is better than 2 million ..it's minus five million dollars ..and I must say well earned or in this case not earned.
Revenue doesn’t include expenses so asking for 50% of revenue is regardless if the league lost money as a whole.
Lol
that's not how revenue works, you dont "lose" revenues. not that my CPA actually matters but just thought this is one of those lightbulb moments.
@@Vinsanity13ST it's a joke, genius.
I called the arena to see what time the WNBA game was starting.
They said, "What time can you get here?"
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LMAO
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So good because it's so true lol
Funniest comment I’ve ever read
The WNBA CBA has a clause where players would make 50% of the revenue once the revenue reaches a certain point. The league is nowhere near that revenue mark. If the players made 50% of too low of a number, like you said, you wouldn’t be able to pay coaches, pay for flights, pay janitors, etc. If the players got what they want, their league would die.
The owners have been losing money every year for 25 years and the players are asking for raises and private flights. NBA players in the 60s worked day jobs while they were building the NBA and it still almost failed multiple times. If the NBA didn’t stipend the WNBA, the league already wouldn’t exist. The players really think they deserve more money?? They’re lucky they still have a league and stadiums to play in. The level of entitlement is actually absurd.
I always wondered how no one knew that Mr. Leslie were my mistake. Miss Leslie is a man. And that’s a fact I don’t know who the WNBA think they were fooling because as a gay man family recognize his family 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
"The skill level is off the charts IN WNBA" my eyes rolled so hard that I saw my frontal cortex
Negative numbers must not be on the chart
@@andrewdusek Wah wah wahhhh lol
Lol
I watched these hi lights & real deal; I’ve never seen so many missed shots in a game. Im prove the product and it would sell
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"My salary was only a small 6 figures" Woe is me, I shall play this tune on the world smallest violin
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The violin 🎻 gets smaller when they do compare what they do to their NBA counterparts as why that should be getting more. Skylar’s dig into Harrison Barnes is a prime example. She compared her résumé to his in a dismissive way, while complaining why she should get more because of it; she’s a 4-time All-Star & leading scorer on a team that hasn’t had a winning season since drafting her. Barnes - while not an All-Star, was a key piece of the Warriors championship team in 2015 & their record-setting 73-win regular season in 2016; after the KD trade, Harrison became the Mavs leading scoring option. By the time Diggins made that comparison in 2019, neither Dallas team had much to brag about. Was Diggins saying she’s as good as Barnes despite never winning a title like he did, or that she needs to be paid as much as a player like Barnes got paid despite him never being an All-Star??
@Tevin Grouse it’s not that they don’t deserve a pay raise, it’s how are they going to get such a raise when their league can’t afford it? Even the $500K minimum you suggest is currently untenable to pay every player. The WNBA barely makes $80M/yr; no way they can give $72M to 144 players across their 12 teams & still remain financial solvent.
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Bru it’s like paying someone to fail. Even though it is funny 😅
The women's soccer league has already made a joke of themselves in front of the country when their wage inequality lawsuit was thrown out of court with extreme prejudice when it was discovered that they were already being paid more, over all compared to men's Soccer league in guaranteed salary and benefits. Men on the other hand were only earning commission per game with bonus. So what was the court circus about? They wanted to amend their contract to include commission and bonuses per game without removing the guaranteed salary and benefits with non of the drawbacks from the men's contract.....very greedy and frivolous lawsuit. A shameless act by the neo feminism activists.
OH NO, NO, NO! We don't ever want to lower the basket! The integrity, please. But, we'll use a smaller basketball, please.🤣🤣
Imagine complaining about six figures to play basketball. I'm a man and if I got that much too dribble you wouldn't hear a peep from my mouth
Well you're a man. Youre brain works better
Yes you would at first you would be happy as hell but when you realize everybody else you're playing with is making almost 10 times as much as you are you would change slowly.
@@someoneextra819 No! Because everyone else is getting less than what shes getting. Shes comparing herself to the men, they play the same sport but at 2 different levels.. What if you were the highest paid McDonalds worker would you then complain that a gourmet chef who works in 5 restaurant is getting paid more than you? Same sport but at completely different levels
@@someoneextra819 untill wnba brings in enough money they cant pay them more. You earn your wages...you are not entitled to them
@@seds94 lmao
A 9ft rim so they dunk...they already play with a smaller ball.
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Actually a good idea for the game. Would love to see some ladies dunk on some bitches
They could play with a golf ball and trash can, still garbage
They are usually smaller, in height. So I guess it would make sense
They stealing from the nba now
Dang I thought I found the queen of 'air ball' , D. Rodman. You gals took it to another level.
crazy how the low-lights is from one game... wild
That Brittany is not a biological woman, that is a straight up one hundred percent man😂😂😂
Women's college basketball is a MUCH better game than the WNBA.
Huh, counter-intuitive but I guess that makes sense
A women's college team beat the U.S. women's Olympic team so it checks out.
That’s so true , I wonder why that is
@@myronwilborn6561 the college game had programs like Tennessee & Connecticut made dynasties that impressed fans and causal audiences alike. No player or team in the WNBA has come close to that level of consistency to make folks take notice.
@@aztn19 the Houston comets were starting to become that team for the league back in the day. Back when swoopes and cooper and Tina Thompson were there. Idk If they even still have a team in Houston , sad.
Imagine if there was a “Shaqtin-A-Fool” for the WNBA. Each episode would be 3 hours long
U would have to go to the movies to see it
Local movie theatre
@@dwadeisthegoat2020 😂😂😂 and u right Dwade is the GOAT😤😤😤
I would be an entire game per episode
true
Now we know the true value of a WNBA player, especially a Lesbian one: an even swap for a Russian arms dealer. But I understand that an actual soldier of ours was let behind. Seems fair, right?
Dude, because you're still in the closet doesn't mean that you're able to tell other's how and what to think or say. 8 year old boys play better than they do, so only a fool would pay to see them play 😂
“The skill level is off the charts”
Me: yeah it’s so bad that it doesn’t even reach the charts
Honestly they play like I do when I'm hung over 🤣
It's painful to watch this. Then having the finances laid out... I think they should be happy with the 20% share.
Think outside the charts/box 🧠👈😁
if you only focus on one thing while watching this video make it their hands as they run.
9:57
"I like how u play football *my guy"* - Jamal Adams from Texas
Culture vultures...
I would actually love to see a high school boy's team play a WNBA team.
It might be a close game ( edit maybe...)
The high school team would fuck them up no 🧢
My former team would slap them and weren’t top 100 😂
I think the American woman's soccer team (which is one of the top in the world) lost to a mans high school soccer team, so the same would probably happen for basketball
@@socberttrucker3598 it was a 14 year old team if I am remembering right
There’s something about watching a basketball game come to an end with a soccer score.
If nba players got 20% too they’d still get paid massively more amounts
“If there’s no referee, I’m gonna go sell my house, and bet all my money on cousins”😭😭😭 dog chilllllllllll
Crazy part about that quote is that that guy coaches female players. Or, at least he did at the time that quote was made. So, ostensibly, he'd have more respect for them than the average person. But he's also not stupid, lol.
@@Jaymez2012 no shit? That’s fucking hilarious
Bruh he was like" let me find a way to explain to them that I will take that bet to house ! " 🤭🤭🤭
@@RoyaleWitCheese04 not just a women’s coach, literally the most successful women’s basketball coach on the planet. Coaches UConn and the USA women’s teams
@@H1V3M1ND1 So he's basically the Coach K of women's basketball
"I would sell my house and bet all of the money on boogie." LMFAO i was crying
And a women's coach said that.
Really? You were crying?? Fr… crying??
@@threat9231 bro you are either a woman or don’t understand an overexaggeration
Why do you cry? Sorry I’m not American I don’t understand aswill
@@phillipjacobs9982 just means he laughed so hard that he got tears
Didn't even know there is a WNBA.
Wait till the Trans players arrive. Then the talent level will increase.
That's gold. Sad but very true...
Right. There won't even be girls sports anymore. Just men pretending to be women.
@@travz21 Men and men who can't win against other men.
Bad joke 0/10
@@AA-lj5rp too bad it's reality...10/10, it'll happen and when it does they'll be the best thing ever in the WNBA, they'll be held as "Basketball Greats" just for showing up. Women's Sports are soon to be a thing of the past, where's all the Feminist defending Women at?? Ahhh that's right, just Man eaters.
They should lower the rim.
It's kinda like when you were younger and you'd lower the rim to do some crazy dunks for fun. That's the entire point; FUN. The game is for fun and entertainment. Make the game more entertaining and more people will watch it.
Agreed, they don't jump as high, give them a 9 foot hoop.
They are waaaay too prideful to accept that. The irony is that it would probably make their sport way more watchable and as a result, more profitable.
They want everything the NBA has without doing whatever it takes.
@@theimaginist3310 ye they think they're good
Says its for fun;
The wnba crazys who say they should be paid the same as nba; *pure screeching* "ItS NoT A gAmE, ThEY NeeD ThEIr JoBS"
@@maxpower9175 they're not as tall either, more reason to lower the hoop
To Kelsey, I have never seen a WNBA jersey worn out in the wild...not one in 25 years.
That guy saying he would sell his house im dyiinnggggg
The real kicker is that that was HER Olympic coach.
"What's the argument here? NBA, WNBA. One is a sport, one is a joke. I love sports, I love jokes. Room for all."
-Dwight K. Schrute
Perfection
T-Mac has a great idea, he brings it very carefully, trying not be insulting.
Yet, she's still insulted!
That's my first thought too! They miss a lot of lay ups, have very few tall players, and shooting into a goal not as high really wouldn't be as much an adjustment. If they would humbly & modestly accept they won't ever compete to the same level as the guys (just a fact, not an insult) and just took what they could do to its limits, I guarantee more would watch! But that requires modesty - recognizing limits, facing reality and adjusting like an adult
@@jaredpatterson1701 the average nba player is also taller than in the WNBA so why should the goals be the same
@@lucwijngaard8413 yeah make he rim 5 feet
Even worse, she tried to 'put him in check' before he even started. She lets her fear lead her action.
correct me if i'm wrong, but women do play with a smaller sized ball right?? so why would this be a disrespectful thought?..
I *WOULD NOT* necessarily watch WNBA if the women could dunk. In fact, I _MIGHT_ not even watch if they played topless.
If Iguadola said “Aerial Powers is nice” NOBODY WOULD KNOW WHO TF HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, “23 from the mystics-“ made way more sense
LMFAO! I still don’t know who he’s talking about.
What's the Mystics?
It also more clearly illustrates that he is talking about her sports performance, and not a personal interaction that he had with her. Using the number was the most appropriate way to get his point across
@@KingOfThePiratesOfTheHill I remember a fruit drink called Mystic.
You're absolutely right, they should be going to schools and doing tours, promoting the sport. Give free tickets away to these girl teams.
No one ever had that much air since Covid, when they were on oxygen 😅
When that one chick said “.. omg it’s so slow” SHES SO RIGHT! They put no real energy into the game. It’s like in slowmo. WNBA defense is almost nonexistent, the overall skill is just very low. You see better hooping going on at a pick up game at the local YMCA
thats my take bro it looks like middle school basketball 🤷🏽♂️ but nowadays those 12 year olds are windmill yammin haha
Who have y'all been watching? I get it, it's not the NBA but they all ain't slow.. this is a vid that's only showing the bad and tryna degrade
Women don’t have as much explosive muscle , so yea it’s about 15% slower
@@jaylucas8352 yeah we know.
For real. I'm a woman and I find the WNBA culture so grating. It's like their approach to the game is all talk, no show in effort and intensity. Women's College Basketball KILLS the WNBA -- they put in the work and don't see the game as an excuse to kiss their own asses and then play victim. Whenever I watch women's ball, it's college, all day any day. Sooo, how is the problem sexism?? 🤔🤦🏽♀️
I love how the dude who coaches women for a living said he would sell his house and put all him money on Boogie 😂
Geno Auriemma, the greatest women's coach of all time, so he's not some rando hater of women's basketball. He's just not delusional like these WNBA players are.
I just don’t get why they say crazy stuff like that , like who actually thinks it’s true , it’s a bad look
Yeah it sounds real good but talks cheap... Let's call him on it and see what happens.. anyone can say words,, him included..
@@wayneallard8957 so you think she’s going to beat a pro male ball player who is 6-8” and weighs 245 lbs? Never happen in 1 billion tries
@@wayneallard8957 actually he’s 6-10” 270 lbs. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeMarcus_Cousins
When he said his views changed at the beginning I thought he meant people stopped watching him and I was like: “oh no, people started hating on him for defending the WNBA players?”