As I recall, every form of stopgap armour directly after the Mk IV Maximus (as in battlfield repair and innovation) but before the Corvus was broadly categorised as the Mk V Heresy, despite its near complete lack of conformity. The Corvus was given to the Raven Guard first (hence the name) and re-designated the Mk VI. Edit: Also, the studded pads found throughout the Heresy pattern were an innovation directly made to counter the advanced ammunition the traitor legions got their hands on; designed to shear off in layers as they took damage rather than a single solid plate fracturing entirely.
@@jaegerbomb269 The Mk5 is a jury rigged suit of armor made out an older suit and multiple spare parts making every Mk5 suit different from each other.
MKV was never actually "in production", it's basically a hodge-podge of armor parts from previous marks cobbled together to replace broken pieces in the supply droughts of the heresy. It's essentially only called MKV as a sort of archival thing, it's not actually its own definitive thing. Then the MKVI was given to the Raven Guard (because there weren't many suits of it, but there also weren't many Raven Guard at the time, probably only a little more than a thousand marines), and later (as of Horus Heresy 2.0) rolled out to other legions.
In regards to lack of a mark 9 variant I'm gonna choose to believe that Ageis pattern armour only meant for the Gray knights is a the mark 9 with it having holy runes and psychic hoods for all armour produced
One of my favorite characters Amadeus Ducaine was an iron hand old head who despite being a lord commander of a legion still wore mark 1 thunder armor because he took pride in his long service and never mentions him having trouble with it so I think it's cool to imagine one grizzled old veteran in mk 1 armor showing the young bucks how its done on the battlefield
I'd love to see some lore about Ducaine, or any other character still using Mk. 1 armor, besting some young Space Marine who thinks he's hot stuff in his new Mk. 10 Tacticus armor.
There's also the Indomitus variant of the Mark X Primaris armor worn by the Bladeguard. it's slightly beefier than the standard Tacticus, optimized for melee engagements and looks more knightly in appearance.
Black Carapace does not replace skin. It's an implanted layer of synthetic nerves that also provides a degree of ballistic protection in places. It helps the armor interface with your nervous system making it feel like you're wearing a bodysuit rather than a walking armored vehicle.
You forgot to mention MK3 has reduced rear plating, making it highly vulnerable to flanking. In addition, MK2 and 3 are obscenely loud when compared to other armors. Source is Deathwatch : Rites of Battle
@@TheBoneZone40k yeah, that's why deathwatch and the new primaris got their own special armor to be sneaky with. No matter the pattern, mainline astartes armor is LOUD! Doesn't mean they can't be sneaky with it, but they need to limit movement.
@@solarshdow8657 earlier versions were, yes, but with every legion at the time basically specializing their wargear, they fixed that problem really quick
I actually didn't like power armor at first, because I learned about 40k through a space hulk video game so I only knew about terminators and thought they were awesome. So when I got into the hobby I saw the power armor models and thought "who tf are those little dudes" but after some novels and artwork I def grew into it. But long story short mk3 looks the coolest but I'd rather wear a mk4
Not gonna lie, Terminator Armour is pretty awesome. I mean, in Terminator armour, you are a fucking wall of armour. In a Space Hulk, you _become_ the end of any corridor you're walking down. A Genestealer pokes his head out, and you're like, "dead end motherfucker! Have some overwatch!" But even on an open battlefield, Terminators are still pretty awesome. They are the only thing that can surround a Greater Daemon, and the Daemon stops laughing and bothers to actually try.
As a Chaos player, all of my marines wear artificier armor kitbashed together from various kits because I like injecting individuality into my little squads. I was told not to do so but I like self induced trauma. I personally really like Phobos and Errant armor a lot.
I know Im gunna be that guy, but ceramite is a ceramic. Its really cool the uses of ceramics in bullet resistant vests and spaceship hulls due to there impact resistance (being a composite), and there heat resistance, making it perfect for plated armour against heat and force based weponry.
I'm gonna be a that guy to your that guy as ceramite is actually adamantium mixed with ceramic compounds making it a composite akin to Chobham or Dorchester families of armour used in modern MBTs.
The Aegis Armor is easily my favorite. The look and design of classical suits, which follows the Paladin aesthetic the Grey Knights have, is distinct enough to immediately set them apart from their brethren, even to those who’ve never seen a Space Marine.
I think it's just a natural design choice. I once designed a suit of powered armour with two eye "holes" in the helmet, but they were round and unthreatening which just isn't what you need for elite shock troopers policing the orbit of a planet, so I gave them angry eyebrows.
great content, love the casual talk format. I don’t think Ceramite is metal, in a lot books it described as a thick layer of ceramic material that would shatter when shot to absorb kinetic energy, and can be incased again after the battle. kinda like ceramic ballistic plate.
@@maggot9572 yep basically if we have a way of moving a metal exo skeleton,and encasing the whole thing in ballistic ceramic and some electronics , we get a somewhat close enough version of the 40k power amour
Mk6 is my favourite, followed by mk4, and mk10 tacticus and phobos... Also i found some Raven Guard conversions of phobos armor with the mk6 Corvus helmet and these look extremely cool imo (Just look at the new Shrike model with the helmet on). The beakie helmet in general is my favourite and makes a lot of practical and aesthetic sense for me!
personaly i love the gravis pattern. i think the large hulking aesthetic is amazing and works well with my love of melee in games that should not have being effective
Iron Armour is awesome. Aquila Armour was the go to for, like, 10,000 years. Pretty solid. It does have to be pointed out, however, that most "Aquila" armour...actually has an Imperialis on it. That's got to be a let down; you think you're going to wear the Emperor's personal heraldry, then you get this fucking winged skull thing.
Dunno why but i love the heresy era MK V. Always reminds me of my favoriten legion the Night Lords bc they probably rock that kind of armor after the heresy. Also MKII is dope bc of it almost "knight armor " look.
Phobos pattern is still my favorite. I'm always surprised when I hear the Mk. 8 was considered a "failure" though. Did the gorget really make that big of a difference?
I really, really wanted to make a Death Watch Phobos force. Like a stealthy team of go in, grab the goods, kill the guy, and pop out. Kind of a shame about 1. the pricing and 2. the categories made it all sorts of wack.
I discovered this channel yesterday and i have now watched almost every video on it, not in order but its fun to learn more about 40k plus i like the way this guy explains stuff
Phobos looses points for incursors. It is my favorite for primaris because of how cool infiltrators are. The iron armor and Aquila number one and number two to me, followed by phobos.
not even just a WH thing but usually on things like a helm/ or car its good to make your combat thing look aggressive. so short and not as thought out or thorough answer its an intimidation display.
Corvus is easily my favourite outside of gravis. I just love the sleek design of the corvus with the bubble shoulder and beak adding a little extra flair while I love the gravis for just being fucking massive. Like I can imagine a squad of aggressors lumbering into flamer range, getting shot to shit and just BARELY incinerating all in their path. Another cool thing to note is that mark 4 and mark 10 both have the same helmets. Also speaking of helmets if mark 10 had the aquila pattern helmet it would easily beat out both gravis and corvus for me
The emperor’s biocrafts are so crude but so fascinating a monkey with a stick and rocks creating such strong tools it was so fun to discover how he made them but our haemonculi have other projects to work on so I bid you a goodnight and thank you for this intelligence report
Ceramite may be a "super fantastical sci fi metal", but the idea is actually based on tank armour from the 20th century, specifically the ceramic Chobham armour of the Challenger and Abrams tanks. The name 'ceramite' is obviously based on the 'ceramic' composite, but given a more sci-fi sounding name. As with most things in 40k, there's basis in the real world. Boltguns are another example of such.
MKVIII doesn't just have the kneck guard, there's also additional armour over the hip, stomach and shoulder joints, as well as improved mobility in the ankles. It's just often not all depicted in artwork.
IIRC, one of the downsides of the MK 8 is that it is not backwards compatible with previous marks of power armor. For example, if an Astates wanted to wear MK 6 helmet on his MK 7 power armour, it is doable; but with the MK 8 armor profile that would not be possible.
Mk. 5 is definitely the most estheticaly pleasing imho. Especially the massive helmet design. And of course, the studs... And when you put the Space Sharks paint over it... *Chef's kiss*
While the Mark 10 Phobus is my favourite, I have say that the Mark 5 Heresy Helmet looks the business. Very predatory...no wonder the Charcaradons use it.
I honestly really like the concept art of the Thunder Armor. The one shown at 2:44 is mostly what I mean, it does look really fucking cool, like stylized auramite Aquila armor. The no powered leg thing is supremely stupid, you'd think it would be the other way around to let you carry the armor's weight better, but on a purely aesthetic basis this one gets me. As for the actually good sets of armor? Crusade, Iron, and mandatory beaky helmet. Aquila is nice enough, pretty good as a baseline standard armor for the 41st Millennium. Oh, and FUCK anything to do with Primaris, that shit can pop a nut and fuck off.
Devastator centurions (I think that's what they were called anyway) are my overall favorites but I'm rather partial to the mk3, mk2 for their beefiness. The mk4 and mk7 are good too. Truthfully though, in rts games I've always liked plopping turrets and AA all around the map until I can get a shitload of tanks and arty. So infantry variants don't make as much of a difference to me generally.
I believe that the Heresy armour's molecular studs were actually just used to fuse more armour onto the old armour, as when the Heresy started they went from fighting some AP weapons strong enough to kill a space marine only carried by afew specialised squads (assuming an alien species even had them) to fighting the fully automatic sniper rifles of the Traitor marines, meaning that they needed more armour to actually defend against anything.
The neckguard doesnt limit mobility but bottom visibility, and you cant slap a corvus helmet on it due to the beak interfiering with the neckguard (you can prolly reffer to it as a gorget). It has an added benefit of eliminating a shot trap- a term used in tanks when armor can deflect a hit to a weakspot and is generally avoided in design, Old pre industrial plate armor had some strange ribs near the neck so weapon and arrow hits do not slide from the breastplate into the neck
Fun fact: IIRC the Corvus pattern armor was actually named so because for a time, when the Mark IV was still the standard issue, the Raven Guard were given prototype variants of the Corvus power armor for field testing and, specifically, to see just how sneaky it could be. Because of their early usage of it, and their contributions to the field testing and whatnot, the Corvus Pattern Power Armor was named after the Primarch of the Raven Guard, *Corvus* Corax.
Notable thing about the Mark 5, in particular the molecular bonding studs. The marines found a use for them actually beyond helping hold the armor together. Specifically against bolter weapons those studs were very helpful at increasing survivability. To explain if those studs take a bolter shell it would penetrate the stud and detonate essentially on the surface of the armor instead of inside the squishy meaty bits. Additionally they were tough enough, and the shaped in such a way that if you struck the stud it might just ricochet off. Weirdly Mark V armor was pretty great and cost effective method for fighting other space marines, not the best, but still really good. Also the Mark 8 from what I remember was a design asked for by the Space Marines themselves, the simple idea being with how the chest was shaped you could have this unfortunate thing where if a bullet struck the upper torso plate it had a not insignificant chance of ricocheting up under the marine's helmet and into the lower jaw. So hence the gorget being added.
Innovation is heresy, according to the machine cult that supplies the Imperium it's machines and tools. It took a radical high ranking tech priest with a bunch of knowledge, doomsday weapons, and the approval from the son of God for this sorry state of affairs to change.
My favourite part about the MK VI is the beak has extra communications equipment so I have equipped most of my officer models with it because they will need that ability more than most.
The mark 3 is my fav because DG duh but my favorite little thing is that the in canon reason the protection and mobility swap is because they literally added more joint plating, thus restricting movement
Maximus will always be the version of armor I prefer for the guys for three reasons; Firstly, it is the best looking. Secondly, it is the armor that works, lore-wise. Thirdly, both traitors and loyalists had access to it at the same time, thus it is standard and I like it. The Mk5 is ridiculous in my opinion, the Corvus pattern should have been a specialization, Mk7 should have been introduced as like a Mk3, and Mk8 is an afterthought. I'm slightly happy they went with primaris, but I also have my gripes with it I'm not going to elaborate on here because it is at least a 13 page rant.
Based on the name, ceramite would be a ceramic/titanium+ alloy, ceramic has a very high melting point, making it better against lasers (modern tank armour is ceramic alloy) so the armour probably isnt too fantastical overall
Mk1: Beginning prototype interesting to see what came before, like seeing a biplane or a zepplin Mk2: Certified Hood Classic. paved the way and looks like some of the best imo Mk3: A more specialised yet flexible armour. could be used for multiple things, like it for the same reason I like Mk2 Mk4: Advanced and sleek armour, yet still has a classic feel to it the zenith right before the fall Mk5: Underrated armour, has a gritty survivalist feel and could be kitbashed with other marks to emphasise that Mk6: Another classic armour, out of canon the oldest and most classic, still cool looking Mk7: Ubiquitous armour its what people used to think when they said space marine, before the primaris Mk8: Another Interesting armour the reinforced gorget is good for sergeants or vets no really awful power armour because they all have a role, purpose or aesthetic they suit. Its just a shame they aren't represented as well as they could be in plastic
If I had to guess ceremite is probably a specialized alloy with a more durable ceramic “cover” the idea mainly comes from some art showing the armor being cracked in a way that seems similar to ceramic plates
Heresy pattern has this rugged, more grim look to it that the Mk2 and Mk3 have except it doesn't remind you of past glories, only horror. Also the funniest "feature" of Mk5 being since the added weight needs more power thus need more cables but those cables need more protection so they add MORE armor which means more power needed to be able to carry that extra weight and it goes in a neverending loop.
The Mk. IV is considered the best mark out of all the marks available, outside of Mk. X. It is why, right before Horus launched the Heresy, he and Kelbor-Hal made sure every traitor Legions were almost entirely geared with it, even tho Death Guard and Iron Warriors preferred the Mk. III. The Mk. V is not really a model to begin with. It's the amalgamation of field repair, personal modifications and tweaks made by every marine on the field to compensate the lack of supply. Not a single Mk. V armor would look the same, because it was not a real mark; I even think it was named like that retroactively. Mk. VI's development started right at the end of the Great Crusade. It was (when it was still technically Mk. V) named Corvus to honor Corax, Raven Guard's Primarch, because his legion used the armor first to test it on the field. When the Heresy broke out and the Raven Guard went back to Terra, it was all gifted to them when they needed to grow back in strength (some were stolen by Alpha Legion operatives alongside plans, which explains why traitors have it too). Mk. VII's development was launched right after Mk VI's. It was made to be more resilient than Mk. VI, but less expensive and technical than the Mk. IV. The battlefields of the late Horus Heresy were its trial phases, and by the time of the Siege of Terra, many if not the majority of the defenders (Imperial Fists, Blood Angels and White Scars, plus some remnants of other loyalist Legions) were equipped with Mk. VII armors.
sorry to be that guy but, MK V has two versions: The MK V mass production set, which is the artwork you usually see when you look into it, (even the forgeworld models) and then you have the version which is a bunch of pieces armour taken and put together. So like, MK 3 legs with a MK 4 torso and MK 2 head would be that version of MK V
Mark VII "Aquilla" absolute favourite, but correct me if I am wrong, but I remember a Mark IX armor. Don´t remember the name of it but I think it was used by "normal" humans, like inquisitors or smth?
just slap on a Mk10 Phobos helmet on a Mk7 body and boom thats my favorite the versatility of the Mk7 with the epic gas mask-ness of the Mk10 Phobos helmet it just looks so cool
Runic armor for those special wolf bois. Surprised its not like...Runes of the Wulfen armor...given their naming conventions...so Vikings in space confirmed...just very...fluffy at times. Artificer armor is for techmarines...I think and it gave them a bonus in 3rd/4th edition...I also think there was an additional upgrade that had a seperate name or category that increased the save to a 2 plus that wasn't terminator armor, but reinforced/close. I upgraded my Librarian to that variant and it was fun...I had an epistolary at the time too...I honestly didn't really dig psychic phases, but yeah, I've got my old vet.
Personally, the mk 7 andMk8 are just classics But my favorite has to be the Mk3 and as a runner up, the Mk 6, but with the Imperial Fists' medieval knight style helmets
Mark IV and Mark V are absolutely best Plus Mark V' - little mistake there. Studs there were to basicly bolt additional armor plates, and if marine got hit in said body-part, the studs were ment to take the damage of it. This is due to the armor, being mostly suited/designed to have in mind fighting other space marines, rather than other enemies.
I"ve never hear them described as anything other than the bonding studs that hold the armor together, where did you hear about it being supplemental armor on its own?
@@christophersmith8848 Mostly reading horus heresy's story, a friend who's equally as giga-nerd as i am in regards to it And I THINK i heard it in one of the novels after Istavaan Dropsite Massacre. Sorry I cant be more specific :
I always liked the Mk V armor because of the studs. For my EC, I did a mix. You know, it always was a shame that the stats were just generic so all that mattered was appearance.
I realize we will probably never get it, but i would love having some Thunder Warrior models. Include some Techno-Barbarian models and we could have real Unification War battles. Am I the only person that wants this?
"neck thing" is a gorget, and a necessary addition to the armor. The neck joints were open to ricochets
Came down here too comment this but you beat me to it so take my like
Hence why Cawl put it back into the mark X armor.
That “Gorget” is a neck thing. and it will protec your neck.
Ricochets.. and marauding shiv-wielding Snotlings!!
In one book a Raven Guard got wrecked by a stubber bullet ricocheting into his neck joint, so yes, very much needed indeed.
I remember hearing that the corvis was meant to be the mk5 but the heresy pattern was rushed into production first
Yes. What became the MK5 was in production before the MK6 was released due to necessity. Also was more widespread earlier too.
As I recall, every form of stopgap armour directly after the Mk IV Maximus (as in battlfield repair and innovation) but before the Corvus was broadly categorised as the Mk V Heresy, despite its near complete lack of conformity. The Corvus was given to the Raven Guard first (hence the name) and re-designated the Mk VI.
Edit: Also, the studded pads found throughout the Heresy pattern were an innovation directly made to counter the advanced ammunition the traitor legions got their hands on; designed to shear off in layers as they took damage rather than a single solid plate fracturing entirely.
@@jaegerbomb269 The Mk5 is a jury rigged suit of armor made out an older suit and multiple spare parts making every Mk5 suit different from each other.
MK5 was never really a standard design it was just what could be cobbled together from the armour they had laying around from what I read.
MKV was never actually "in production", it's basically a hodge-podge of armor parts from previous marks cobbled together to replace broken pieces in the supply droughts of the heresy. It's essentially only called MKV as a sort of archival thing, it's not actually its own definitive thing. Then the MKVI was given to the Raven Guard (because there weren't many suits of it, but there also weren't many Raven Guard at the time, probably only a little more than a thousand marines), and later (as of Horus Heresy 2.0) rolled out to other legions.
In regards to lack of a mark 9 variant I'm gonna choose to believe that Ageis pattern armour only meant for the Gray knights is a the mark 9 with it having holy runes and psychic hoods for all armour produced
Yeah use your own head cannon innit, makes it more immersive for yourself
Mk9 is the deathwatch pattern I believe
Mk9 is raptor armor
Or it's a low-key joke.
It's blank intentionally for you to make your own mk, like the 2nd and 11th legions
One of my favorite characters Amadeus Ducaine was an iron hand old head who despite being a lord commander of a legion still wore mark 1 thunder armor because he took pride in his long service and never mentions him having trouble with it so I think it's cool to imagine one grizzled old veteran in mk 1 armor showing the young bucks how its done on the battlefield
It's like seeing an old guy in Iraq with a m1 garand
The mkI in the Armor through the Ages box is astarte sized, it would be cool to see more of it in a HH release
I'd love to see some lore about Ducaine, or any other character still using Mk. 1 armor, besting some young Space Marine who thinks he's hot stuff in his new Mk. 10 Tacticus armor.
There's also the Indomitus variant of the Mark X Primaris armor worn by the Bladeguard. it's slightly beefier than the standard Tacticus, optimized for melee engagements and looks more knightly in appearance.
Also used primarily by the black tempars
I assumed that was artificer mkX, i hope they make a veteran box with fewer tabards. Would love to get a good kitbash in
Black Carapace does not replace skin. It's an implanted layer of synthetic nerves that also provides a degree of ballistic protection in places. It helps the armor interface with your nervous system making it feel like you're wearing a bodysuit rather than a walking armored vehicle.
The Aquila helmet is just too iconic to discard completely. I hope it comes back sometime in the future.
I hate the Primaris helmet. I miss the angry face helm.
The bat outta hell (BOH) helmet is my favorite. OG NL exclusive. It gives it some edginess 🦇🔪
You forgot to mention MK3 has reduced rear plating, making it highly vulnerable to flanking. In addition, MK2 and 3 are obscenely loud when compared to other armors. Source is Deathwatch : Rites of Battle
I remember the noise part!
I remember reading the horus heresy and them talking about how weirdly loud the mk3 was in comparison to 4
@@TheBoneZone40k yeah, that's why deathwatch and the new primaris got their own special armor to be sneaky with. No matter the pattern, mainline astartes armor is LOUD! Doesn't mean they can't be sneaky with it, but they need to limit movement.
i love the beaky helmets man. idk why, all of their variants look awesome to me, then the Mk VII, looks great.
The crusade armour's helmet was originally fixed to the gorget, meaning it would not turn with the wearer's head.
What, you sure?? That's retarded where is that mentioned because that doesn't make sense😂
I think that’s been retconned in recent years
@@solarshdow8657 earlier versions were, yes, but with every legion at the time basically specializing their wargear, they fixed that problem really quick
I actually didn't like power armor at first, because I learned about 40k through a space hulk video game so I only knew about terminators and thought they were awesome. So when I got into the hobby I saw the power armor models and thought "who tf are those little dudes" but after some novels and artwork I def grew into it. But long story short mk3 looks the coolest but I'd rather wear a mk4
The art of space marines was what drew me to 40k. There was just something really interesting in the visual language of the suits.
Not gonna lie, Terminator Armour is pretty awesome. I mean, in Terminator armour, you are a fucking wall of armour. In a Space Hulk, you _become_ the end of any corridor you're walking down. A Genestealer pokes his head out, and you're like, "dead end motherfucker! Have some overwatch!"
But even on an open battlefield, Terminators are still pretty awesome. They are the only thing that can surround a Greater Daemon, and the Daemon stops laughing and bothers to actually try.
I want a mk 2
As a Chaos player, all of my marines wear artificier armor kitbashed together from various kits because I like injecting individuality into my little squads. I was told not to do so but I like self induced trauma. I personally really like Phobos and Errant armor a lot.
"Do you align yourself with the four satans? No? Cool, wear the bird now." 😆
9:27 "It's very space marine-ey." thats crazy, never would have guessed lol
what can I say, I'm known for my eloquence.
@@TheBoneZone40k Of course, of course. A true master of the English language
I know Im gunna be that guy, but ceramite is a ceramic. Its really cool the uses of ceramics in bullet resistant vests and spaceship hulls due to there impact resistance (being a composite), and there heat resistance, making it perfect for plated armour against heat and force based weponry.
The clue is in the name :), anyway tkx for saving me the time.
Thanks for saving me from being that guy!
I'm gonna be a that guy to your that guy as ceramite is actually adamantium mixed with ceramic compounds making it a composite akin to Chobham or Dorchester families of armour used in modern MBTs.
It's worth noting that the mk 10 also saved the mk8 gorget, and improved on it. I still wanna know what happened to mk 9 armor though, lol
The Aegis Armor is easily my favorite. The look and design of classical suits, which follows the Paladin aesthetic the Grey Knights have, is distinct enough to immediately set them apart from their brethren, even to those who’ve never seen a Space Marine.
I think it's just a natural design choice. I once designed a suit of powered armour with two eye "holes" in the helmet, but they were round and unthreatening which just isn't what you need for elite shock troopers policing the orbit of a planet, so I gave them angry eyebrows.
Mymy?
I grew up with 3rd edition so the Mk 7 holds a special place in my army, Salamanders putting "KILL IT WITH FIRE" to shame from 30K onward.
great content, love the casual talk format. I don’t think Ceramite is metal, in a lot books it described as a thick layer of ceramic material that would shatter when shot to absorb kinetic energy, and can be incased again after the battle. kinda like ceramic ballistic plate.
Yeah, it's essentially the next next next step in ceramic body armor
@@maggot9572 yep basically if we have a way of moving a metal exo skeleton,and encasing the whole thing in ballistic ceramic and some electronics , we get a somewhat close enough version of the 40k power amour
I love the MKIV, my Emperor's Children from Horus Heresy wear it with the fancy gold trim upgrades and stuff, it looks so snazzy
Mk6 is my favourite, followed by mk4, and mk10 tacticus and phobos... Also i found some Raven Guard conversions of phobos armor with the mk6 Corvus helmet and these look extremely cool imo (Just look at the new Shrike model with the helmet on). The beakie helmet in general is my favourite and makes a lot of practical and aesthetic sense for me!
Beaky helmet is my fav.
personaly i love the gravis pattern. i think the large hulking aesthetic is amazing and works well with my love of melee in games that should not have being effective
Iron and Aquila are my favorite merge certain armor pieces and designs together it would look incredible
Iron Armour is awesome. Aquila Armour was the go to for, like, 10,000 years. Pretty solid. It does have to be pointed out, however, that most "Aquila" armour...actually has an Imperialis on it. That's got to be a let down; you think you're going to wear the Emperor's personal heraldry, then you get this fucking winged skull thing.
Since my first exposure to Space Marines was the RTB01 box, MkVI will always be my favourite.
But other than that, MKVII is the most iconic.
Dunno why but i love the heresy era MK V. Always reminds me of my favoriten legion the Night Lords bc they probably rock that kind of armor after the heresy.
Also MKII is dope bc of it almost "knight armor " look.
Mk III is a classic. All those extra little bits covering the joints, the pointy knees, how the chestplate covers the whole torso...MkIII all the way.
Phobos pattern is still my favorite. I'm always surprised when I hear the Mk. 8 was considered a "failure" though. Did the gorget really make that big of a difference?
I really, really wanted to make a Death Watch Phobos force. Like a stealthy team of go in, grab the goods, kill the guy, and pop out. Kind of a shame about 1. the pricing and 2. the categories made it all sorts of wack.
I discovered this channel yesterday and i have now watched almost every video on it, not in order but its fun to learn more about 40k plus i like the way this guy explains stuff
Phobos looses points for incursors.
It is my favorite for primaris because of how cool infiltrators are.
The iron armor and Aquila number one and number two to me, followed by phobos.
not even just a WH thing but usually on things like a helm/ or car its good to make your combat thing look aggressive. so short and not as thought out or thorough answer its an intimidation display.
Corvus is easily my favourite outside of gravis. I just love the sleek design of the corvus with the bubble shoulder and beak adding a little extra flair while I love the gravis for just being fucking massive. Like I can imagine a squad of aggressors lumbering into flamer range, getting shot to shit and just BARELY incinerating all in their path.
Another cool thing to note is that mark 4 and mark 10 both have the same helmets.
Also speaking of helmets if mark 10 had the aquila pattern helmet it would easily beat out both gravis and corvus for me
as a huge dork for the raptors chapters, the phobos pattern is fucking dope as hell
As also a fan of the Raptors chapter
I agree
The emperor’s biocrafts are so crude but so fascinating a monkey with a stick and rocks creating such strong tools it was so fun to discover how he made them but our haemonculi have other projects to work on so I bid you a goodnight and thank you for this intelligence report
Ceramite may be a "super fantastical sci fi metal", but the idea is actually based on tank armour from the 20th century, specifically the ceramic Chobham armour of the Challenger and Abrams tanks. The name 'ceramite' is obviously based on the 'ceramic' composite, but given a more sci-fi sounding name. As with most things in 40k, there's basis in the real world. Boltguns are another example of such.
The Mk8 armor was costly to make so it was mainly given to Space Marine Officers and Special squads like Deathwatch.
I know a lot of people have been giving it shit lately, but I think the Mark VI is my favorite armor pattern, followed closely by Mark IV.
Ceramite is actually not a metal. It’s a compound armor scheme comprised of ceramics and Adamantium.
MKVIII doesn't just have the kneck guard, there's also additional armour over the hip, stomach and shoulder joints, as well as improved mobility in the ankles. It's just often not all depicted in artwork.
MK 3 is my fav. I love the design and feel. I'm actually planning on making a custom Marine chapter, outfitted with the MK 3's.
you know it's gonna be a good video when the background music is Everywhere At The End of Time
IIRC, one of the downsides of the MK 8 is that it is not backwards compatible with previous marks of power armor. For example, if an Astates wanted to wear MK 6 helmet on his MK 7 power armour, it is doable; but with the MK 8 armor profile that would not be possible.
Iirc that is just the helmet as it has a quite narrow gorget
Mk. 5 is definitely the most estheticaly pleasing imho. Especially the massive helmet design. And of course, the studs... And when you put the Space Sharks paint over it... *Chef's kiss*
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I always laugh at your endings. I know its coming (giggety) in some way but i still laugh.
I do believe that the aegis armour was the mark 9 and was made exclusive for greyknights explains its apparent absence
Love the Corvus armor:)
While the Mark 10 Phobus is my favourite, I have say that the Mark 5 Heresy Helmet looks the business. Very predatory...no wonder the Charcaradons use it.
"Maxamus armor," I wonder if the people using it will get their revenge in this life or the next. Maybe that's what Rylanor was using.
Rylanor was interred in a dreadnought. So he would not have been wearing a suit at the time.
@@Justowner ... I know it was a joke. Go watch the movie Gladiator. The person who wrote Rylanor's story certainly did.
I honestly really like the concept art of the Thunder Armor. The one shown at 2:44 is mostly what I mean, it does look really fucking cool, like stylized auramite Aquila armor. The no powered leg thing is supremely stupid, you'd think it would be the other way around to let you carry the armor's weight better, but on a purely aesthetic basis this one gets me.
As for the actually good sets of armor? Crusade, Iron, and mandatory beaky helmet. Aquila is nice enough, pretty good as a baseline standard armor for the 41st Millennium.
Oh, and FUCK anything to do with Primaris, that shit can pop a nut and fuck off.
Devastator centurions (I think that's what they were called anyway) are my overall favorites but I'm rather partial to the mk3, mk2 for their beefiness. The mk4 and mk7 are good too.
Truthfully though, in rts games I've always liked plopping turrets and AA all around the map until I can get a shitload of tanks and arty. So infantry variants don't make as much of a difference to me generally.
Total War is the main exception there. For most of a campaign you're stuck with infantry :P
I believe that the Heresy armour's molecular studs were actually just used to fuse more armour onto the old armour, as when the Heresy started they went from fighting some AP weapons strong enough to kill a space marine only carried by afew specialised squads (assuming an alien species even had them) to fighting the fully automatic sniper rifles of the Traitor marines, meaning that they needed more armour to actually defend against anything.
The neckguard doesnt limit mobility but bottom visibility, and you cant slap a corvus helmet on it due to the beak interfiering with the neckguard (you can prolly reffer to it as a gorget).
It has an added benefit of eliminating a shot trap- a term used in tanks when armor can deflect a hit to a weakspot and is generally avoided in design, Old pre industrial plate armor had some strange ribs near the neck so weapon and arrow hits do not slide from the breastplate into the neck
In my personal opinion The Space Marines Armour is one of the G.O.A.T Armours in fiction no 🧢, thing is deadly 💀 and delivers
As far i remember, the Mark IX is the one the Grey Knights use, the Aegis, right?
slaps forehead. Ohhhhh...right.
Phobos pattern is just awesome aesthetically. Kayvaan Shrike is my favorite space marine of all time.
Fun fact: IIRC the Corvus pattern armor was actually named so because for a time, when the Mark IV was still the standard issue, the Raven Guard were given prototype variants of the Corvus power armor for field testing and, specifically, to see just how sneaky it could be. Because of their early usage of it, and their contributions to the field testing and whatnot, the Corvus Pattern Power Armor was named after the Primarch of the Raven Guard, *Corvus* Corax.
Your openings are always so nervous its kind of charming.
The Night Lords must be salivating over getting their hands on some phobos pattern armours
If you look up at most helm from below they look more shocked then angry :o
I gotta admit I love the mark 10. All the versions of it. They look AWESOME
Notable thing about the Mark 5, in particular the molecular bonding studs. The marines found a use for them actually beyond helping hold the armor together. Specifically against bolter weapons those studs were very helpful at increasing survivability. To explain if those studs take a bolter shell it would penetrate the stud and detonate essentially on the surface of the armor instead of inside the squishy meaty bits. Additionally they were tough enough, and the shaped in such a way that if you struck the stud it might just ricochet off. Weirdly Mark V armor was pretty great and cost effective method for fighting other space marines, not the best, but still really good.
Also the Mark 8 from what I remember was a design asked for by the Space Marines themselves, the simple idea being with how the chest was shaped you could have this unfortunate thing where if a bullet struck the upper torso plate it had a not insignificant chance of ricocheting up under the marine's helmet and into the lower jaw. So hence the gorget being added.
In terms of ceramics being good enough for military armour there is Aluminium oxynitride
I personally enjoy the crusade helmet design with the iron suit because I find them to be the more realistic style of power armor if it was max today,
I really like helmets from mark 2/3.
The bonding studs while not for additional armour, do provide it where they are fitted, hence the use on the left shoulder
Oh and I think it is absolutely insane that the imperium went like 10k years with almost no armor upgrades! Why in the world would that happen?!
Innovation is heresy, according to the machine cult that supplies the Imperium it's machines and tools.
It took a radical high ranking tech priest with a bunch of knowledge, doomsday weapons, and the approval from the son of God for this sorry state of affairs to change.
Technological stagnation due to the mechanicus post heresy
cuz around the age of apostasy the whole "invention is tech-heresy" got ratcheted up
@@Brandon-ff1yo I know the actual lore answer, im just pointing how ridiculous it is and how backwards things are
My favourite part about the MK VI is the beak has extra communications equipment so I have equipped most of my officer models with it because they will need that ability more than most.
Great video, really been enjoying your videos Bones!
The mark 3 is my fav because DG duh but my favorite little thing is that the in canon reason the protection and mobility swap is because they literally added more joint plating, thus restricting movement
Addition to MK5, they also shoved a shitload of sensory equipment into the helmet, which gave it it's iconic beak.
you using the everywhere at the end of time music is so terrifying to me and i dont know why
Love the Mark 4 Maximus armor imo its the best design.
Maximus will always be the version of armor I prefer for the guys for three reasons; Firstly, it is the best looking. Secondly, it is the armor that works, lore-wise. Thirdly, both traitors and loyalists had access to it at the same time, thus it is standard and I like it. The Mk5 is ridiculous in my opinion, the Corvus pattern should have been a specialization, Mk7 should have been introduced as like a Mk3, and Mk8 is an afterthought. I'm slightly happy they went with primaris, but I also have my gripes with it I'm not going to elaborate on here because it is at least a 13 page rant.
Hah, i love the tiny chonky Marine. Also the guy who did that also makes some pretty good 40K fanartworks.
I honestly really like how you don't speak with a Cadance or Roleplayish Accent as it makes this video feel more human
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Based on the name, ceramite would be a ceramic/titanium+ alloy, ceramic has a very high melting point, making it better against lasers (modern tank armour is ceramic alloy) so the armour probably isnt too fantastical overall
White scars on jet bikes and Corvus armor looks great and kinda makes sense
My fav is mk8 errant for rule of cool and looks very cool to a large pack of melee marines
I love the mark 10 I’m so happy it’s the new look. LOOKS SO COOL
Arthas be like "ha, hold my helmet... And loose your soul"
Mk1: Beginning prototype interesting to see what came before, like seeing a biplane or a zepplin
Mk2: Certified Hood Classic. paved the way and looks like some of the best imo
Mk3: A more specialised yet flexible armour. could be used for multiple things, like it for the same reason I like Mk2
Mk4: Advanced and sleek armour, yet still has a classic feel to it the zenith right before the fall
Mk5: Underrated armour, has a gritty survivalist feel and could be kitbashed with other marks to emphasise that
Mk6: Another classic armour, out of canon the oldest and most classic, still cool looking
Mk7: Ubiquitous armour its what people used to think when they said space marine, before the primaris
Mk8: Another Interesting armour the reinforced gorget is good for sergeants or vets
no really awful power armour because they all have a role, purpose or aesthetic they suit. Its just a shame they aren't represented as well as they could be in plastic
I’m a gravis fan, love the chunky boi aesthetic.
If I had to guess ceremite is probably a specialized alloy with a more durable ceramic “cover” the idea mainly comes from some art showing the armor being cracked in a way that seems similar to ceramic plates
Heresy pattern has this rugged, more grim look to it that the Mk2 and Mk3 have except it doesn't remind you of past glories, only horror.
Also the funniest "feature" of Mk5 being since the added weight needs more power thus need more cables but those cables need more protection so they add MORE armor which means more power needed to be able to carry that extra weight and it goes in a neverending loop.
Mark II & III are easily my favourite, the helmet design and heavy industrial feeling with all the rivets is cool as fuck.
The Mk. IV is considered the best mark out of all the marks available, outside of Mk. X. It is why, right before Horus launched the Heresy, he and Kelbor-Hal made sure every traitor Legions were almost entirely geared with it, even tho Death Guard and Iron Warriors preferred the Mk. III.
The Mk. V is not really a model to begin with. It's the amalgamation of field repair, personal modifications and tweaks made by every marine on the field to compensate the lack of supply. Not a single Mk. V armor would look the same, because it was not a real mark; I even think it was named like that retroactively.
Mk. VI's development started right at the end of the Great Crusade. It was (when it was still technically Mk. V) named Corvus to honor Corax, Raven Guard's Primarch, because his legion used the armor first to test it on the field. When the Heresy broke out and the Raven Guard went back to Terra, it was all gifted to them when they needed to grow back in strength (some were stolen by Alpha Legion operatives alongside plans, which explains why traitors have it too).
Mk. VII's development was launched right after Mk VI's. It was made to be more resilient than Mk. VI, but less expensive and technical than the Mk. IV. The battlefields of the late Horus Heresy were its trial phases, and by the time of the Siege of Terra, many if not the majority of the defenders (Imperial Fists, Blood Angels and White Scars, plus some remnants of other loyalist Legions) were equipped with Mk. VII armors.
sorry to be that guy but, MK V has two versions: The MK V mass production set, which is the artwork you usually see when you look into it, (even the forgeworld models) and then you have the version which is a bunch of pieces armour taken and put together. So like, MK 3 legs with a MK 4 torso and MK 2 head would be that version of MK V
Mark VII "Aquilla" absolute favourite, but correct me if I am wrong, but I remember a Mark IX armor. Don´t remember the name of it but I think it was used by "normal" humans, like inquisitors or smth?
there was a mark IX in the dornian heresy au, it's used exclusively by the ultramarines and incorporates tau technology
That wouldn’t be a mark or power armor.
just slap on a Mk10 Phobos helmet on a Mk7 body and boom thats my favorite
the versatility of the Mk7 with the epic gas mask-ness of the Mk10 Phobos helmet it just looks so cool
Runic armor for those special wolf bois. Surprised its not like...Runes of the Wulfen armor...given their naming conventions...so Vikings in space confirmed...just very...fluffy at times. Artificer armor is for techmarines...I think and it gave them a bonus in 3rd/4th edition...I also think there was an additional upgrade that had a seperate name or category that increased the save to a 2 plus that wasn't terminator armor, but reinforced/close. I upgraded my Librarian to that variant and it was fun...I had an epistolary at the time too...I honestly didn't really dig psychic phases, but yeah, I've got my old vet.
i love that the stealth armour for the primaris is the stealth armour, when it would be the standard for any other universe
No, Ceramite is not a fantasy metal, its a fantasy ceramic composite material. I think...
Pretty sure Adamantium is the sci-fi metal.
Beakie helmets are my absolute favorite.
Heresy armor and I'm still pissed that it wasn't the mark that was used to be the poster armor for the box set
Personally, the mk 7 andMk8 are just
classics
But my favorite has to be the Mk3 and as a runner up, the Mk 6, but with the Imperial Fists' medieval knight style helmets
Mark IV and Mark V are absolutely best
Plus Mark V' - little mistake there. Studs there were to basicly bolt additional armor plates, and if marine got hit in said body-part, the studs were ment to take the damage of it.
This is due to the armor, being mostly suited/designed to have in mind fighting other space marines, rather than other enemies.
I"ve never hear them described as anything other than the bonding studs that hold the armor together, where did you hear about it being supplemental armor on its own?
@@christophersmith8848 Mostly reading horus heresy's story, a friend who's equally as giga-nerd as i am in regards to it
And I THINK i heard it in one of the novels after Istavaan Dropsite Massacre. Sorry I cant be more specific :
I love all of the Mark 10 armor and variants they are personally my favorites.
Now we have primaris terminators.
I always liked the Mk V armor because of the studs. For my EC, I did a mix. You know, it always was a shame that the stats were just generic so all that mattered was appearance.
I realize we will probably never get it, but i would love having some Thunder Warrior models. Include some Techno-Barbarian models and we could have real Unification War battles. Am I the only person that wants this?
Good shit as usual Arthur!!!