@@TheMalthas Oh yeah man a pinned and glued metal dread was a killing object. I remember knocking one of mine off the table and it didn't break but left a god damn dent in the floor...
I know its personal preference but I like them more now. They SHOULD be big, they're supposed to be walking tanks. They're also easier to make em look really good with a paint job.
I love Dreadnoughts. Respect to my boy of chyron, still doesn't know his brothers of lamenters chapters are alive. Please GW, don't make my boy suffer, just let him know so he can finally reunite with his chapter.
If there's one character in 40k who deserves a happy moment it's Chyron. The Deathwatch books need to continue and Chyron finding his Brothers while on a mission needs to happen.
@@silent_stalker3687 not like that. Like Chyrons DW Team lands on a world to deal with the Xenos and Chyron runs into the Lamenters helping the Citizens and they're all happy. Or another Lamenter joins the DW and runs into Chyron in their Fortress Monestary.
@@sketch-R yep, in the 80s and 90s the vast majority of gw models were made of white metal. They gradually made more plastic kits as things got cheaper and as white metal got more expensive. This is how finecast came to be too. Metal becomes too expensive, but far too expensive to invest 100k/sprue for everything so they adapted the moulds for resin which caused a number of well known issues. It lasted much longer than ever intended though.
I’m a White Scars main, and I know the Scars attitude towards dreadnoughts is “I would rather die”, but I absolutely love the Leviathan, Redemptor, and Brutalis. Everything about them is just so damn cool, dreadnoughts are definitely top tier grim dark
and yet the White Scars are one of the few Heresy Legions who have their own legion specific variant of a Leviathan that you can buy, so it's covered in White Scars details
Left out a crucial downside of the new primaris dreads, in that they’re allegedly burning out the pilots as if they were just another interchangeable part
Since, to my knowledge, Primaris marines cannot be entombed within the old "actually works as a life preserver" Dreadnoughts, does that mean all the famous Space Marine characters that got upgraded into Primaris are basically... doomed if they get mortally wounded? Let's say Dante gets maimed. He's a 1100 years old, the Blood Angels aren't going to let that living repertory of knowledge go. So they entomb him. But... He was recently turned into Primaris, so he'll just get burnt up and die, won't he?
@@moderndavinci6599 that would be the case but GW will never let any of their precious named marines get hurt so its never going to be relevant it would have been an interesting point back when the setting was grim and sometimes dark
Being as he just wants to die but warp Angel gene daddy says not yet my guy I think Dante sees he’s rightfully earned death be granted once he completes the prophecy so he’s gonna full leeroy Jenkins
"the cyclonic melta lance that will not only vaporize a tank, but kill the ghosts of the crew inside" that line delivery killed me so hard I'm being interned in a dreadnought as we speak
I think my favorite variant of the dreadnought is the death company one. Just the idea that you already have a murderous psycho space marine and decide it would be a good idea to put him in what amounts to a walking tank is so funny to me.
Hate to be "that" guy, but they dont but already fallen blood angels in a dreadnought. Death company dreadnoughts were normal dreads once, they just fell to the black rage after they've been put it one.
The dreadnought named characters always seem to get the best lines and moments in the books too. "This death is ours, we choose it". "I would have liked to see the skies of Baal one last time". 'I am Rylanor of the Emperor's Children, Ancient of Rites, Venerable of the Palatine Host, and proud servant of the Emperor of Mankind, Beloved by all! I reject you now and always!' "I heard bolter fire". Bless all these stompy xmas presents of death.
"Houses a crippled space marine damaged beyond repair, entombed in a destructive force of a coffin only meant for war, only awoken when needed" "Such a fun concept"
Dreadnoughts are dope. I do like the idea of a mangled old battle grandpa dispensing wisdom and slaughter while the other marines try to avoid waking him while he’s napping for decades.
That's not true, at least some will still come out under the HK banner (Just like Old Born marines are going to be released under HK), + variants from chapters are still going to be availible (its not neccesarily the basic thing I get that)
When i first started 40K back in 1991, the Contempter dreads (had a different, strange looking chassis) had twin linked bolters on the back of each powerfist, and a JUMPACK. 😮😁
It is only because of the chapter specific versions that it survives, they build off it. It and them are on borrowed time though, they'll get redemptor versions at some point, maybe with their codexes if they design them cleverly to do all of them from the same kit with a unique sprue per chapter and give us a venerable redemptor)
If a space marine is a walking fridge, a dreadnought is a walking intermodal container filled with 12 tons of metal maneuvering in a casual 10kph stroll into your face
As an ork player, I love dreadnoughts. They are perfect if you want a deff dread that looks looted from somewhere else. They're big, scary, and the flat armor makes it easy to add stuff on top of it like more guns or spikes
Looted boxnoughts in mass numbers may follow now boxnaughts are going. The chapter specific ones are on borrowed time until a new redemptor version gets released, which could be sooner for some than others. Probably not entirely during this edition as gw is slow at such things (with valid reasons given the number of product lines they have, and needing to balance tooling investment across them wisely each year (probably why we won't get much more for heresy this year etc as they may well push the new stuff out to next financial year).
I now can't help but think of the idea of an ork just opening up and getting into a dreadnought, putting a chair infront of the dead space marine and through sheer force of will getting control of the machine and putting all the dakka on it.
@@dreamypizza8458 that's basicly what I did with my redemptor. I removed the front plate, put an ork head there, two claws on the side of each shoulders, and orkified the rest of the walker. Really fun, would recommend.
Custodes have their own patterns of dread you seem to have forgot. Those being the Contemptor Achilles, and the Telamon heavy The Telamon is the most notable of the 2, being a massive “Fuck you” button to anything that gets REMOTELY near the throne room. Edit: I’m stupid and didn’t read the “Space Marine” part of the title.
I'm fond of the Deredeo Pattern for its sheer dedication to taking a walking Coffin and throwing "More Dakka" onto it. They are the Dakka Stompas of the Spacies as my Ork playing friend would say.
Hi Arthur. You forgot the little Quirk about the Redemptor pattern; they slowly melt the poor guy piloting it. But as for me, I am a fan of the contemptor Dreadnought, it just seems so reliable.
Better/more safe than the Leviathan dread which drives the guy insane. Imagine being a world eater, having to deal with butchers nails AND a machine spirit eating your patience like a 3 three course meal. Also because of this, any current leviathans with their original occupants are more "vaguely put down in the direction of the enemy while the deployers run for the hills" type of weapons. Its so bad that even the blood angels who have the death company will still hesitate to deploy a relic leviathan because of the levels of batshit the pilot would be (and the means of destruction at his disposal).
bears mentioning that the three Cawl patterns that mount an actual wounded hero... kinda rapidly degrade their nervous system, _completely_ defeating the point of keeping your wise knowledgeable veterans around to lead the rest, in favor of being a slightly better tank.
I'd argue that since many of the primaris have not had much combat experience, its not like an ancient hero of great renown is lost. Sides, the whole point of them coming out to share knowledge is so others can carry on after their time on the battlefield.
first dread pattern was the furibunudus. created by one of the warlord clans of terra, was absorbed into use by the imperium. mars didnt like working on them as they were not martian-designed. outside of lore, these were the dreadnoughts that were available in the rogue trader days. they were metal and they were only slightly larger than the terminators we have now. no matter how you built one they'd always look dopey and most people were glad to see them replaced by the boxy-noughts.
Dreadnoughts are honestly one of my favorite parts of 40k. The idea of soldiers being interred into a suit of armor to both act as life support and walking armory is fantastic. The Deredeo dreadnought in particular being one of my favorite dreadnoughts (after the Telemon and Galatus dreadnoughts).
I find it weird how the Blood Angels are the ones with Psycher Dreadnoughts yet the Blood Ravens are the chapter with the suspicious amount of psychers
Whats even weirder is that Magnus the Red created the Osiron-Contemptor during the Great Crusade and iirc NO ONE ELSE USED THEM!!!!! Apparebtly only the BA know how to create then no
Man I really want to prosletyze the joys of the Contemptor Incaendus dread, which could fly. Imagine being a chaos raptor and just seeing a refrigerator with claws rocketing up at you with extreme prejudice
Missed a very important detail about the Redemptor chassis, in that instead of preserving wounded veterans for millennia to come, it instead uses them like AA batteries and burns out most pilots in around a century. Also the Invictor is basically a practice dreadnought since the pilot is completely unprotected in the cockpit except for his own power armor. Contemptor pattern Dreadnought my beloved.
Contemptors can actually SPRINT too. I seem to remember reading an excerpt on Reddit about the POV character watching a Contemptor sprint across a battlefield
@@AAhmou It is even worse. The machine will be posessed by a demon and the occupant is just tortured and brought with it on the ride. Forever trapped. It does not even have to be a traitor space marine in there. Imagine the horror as you slay your family while having no control.
There's one version of the dreadnought that I absolutely love in the sense of the lore and what I am talking about is the helbrute which for those who don't know are basically the chaos heretic version of a dreadnought that is somewhat sentient. And why I love the idea of this is because of the fact that not only does the design for these abominations look fucking terrifying and cool but also the fact that the idea that these people are getting tortured physically and mentally by this almost sentient mech suit is just something that sounds original on its own but also add in the fact that these things are slowly fusing the pilot and the suit together and overall you get a interesting unit with a unique design, lore, and backstory that also adds horror into the mix and you have yourself something that not only Warhammer 40k fans might like but also horror fans might like as well. And surprisingly I'm both a Warhammer 40k fan and a horror fan respectfully
I believe those were officially called Mark IV Dreadnoughts. FW took them out of production before GW got rid of the Castraferrum, the bastards. I always liked the way they looked compared to the GW ones with their slight differences, even though they’re almost identical.
While not really a full variant, the Mortis dreads with quad auto cannon are one of my favorites. Right up there with Wulfen dreadnoughts. "Hey let's give the crazy dreadnought that found a way to Run a giant axe and shield. " whole new meaning to walking war crime.
I just recently bought a Leviathan i gotta have fun with it Edit: As far as i know Volkite weapons are basically a in between of Plasma and Melta weapons strenghts of both and weakness of none that's why they are basically just remnant artifacts in 40k where only a hand full of imperial units have such weapons for example the Primaris Lieutenant Model has a Neo Volkite pistol
Pretty much ALL Dreadnoughts are awesome, but my favorite is probably the Leviathan Dreadnought. The fluff, that it was developed in on Terra, in secret, with elements not shared with the Mechanicum as a counter balance to the Red Priesthood is RAD AS HELL. Redemptors, Contemptors, and Ironclads right there after. I dare say the only Dreads I don't like would be the Chaos ones. :D EDIT: Oh yeah! The Invictor. Love the thing, always forget it is technically a Dread chassis.
Honestly my favourite dreadnoughts come from Custodes and Space Wolves. The Custodes ones just look amazing while the Space Wolves ones (Murderfang, Bjorn and venerable) have intricate patterning and amazing weapons (Claws, shields and Axes on a dread? sign me up)
Loved the chunky metal death model version, this one would kill a person if you threw it at someone. Maybe that is why GW made it into a plastic one :).
Ironclad and Siege Dreadnoughts are not the same. The siege one is armed with a siege drill and an inferno cannon (a massive flamer). Hellfire dreadnought is always armed with a missile launcher and a ranged weapon. A dreadnought that is armed with two identical ranged weapons, so for example, two assault cannons, is called a mortis dreadnought. And there is the assault dreadnought, which is essentially just a normal castraferrum but with two power fists. Other than that, a great video!
Pretty late to the party, but since you dropped the question at the beginning, the first thing that came to mind as a dreadnought equivalent in another franchise, is the Protoss Dragoons from StarCraft. They are mostly seen in the first game and they are supposed to do pretty much the same thing, it's an exoskeleton that provides life support to an otherwise mortally wounded Protoss fighter, allowing them to continue fighting. With that out of the way, I have a great love for dreadnoughts as well, so I'm quite excited about the video. Came across the channel only recently, and I love the work, and the style of the delivery! Keep it up! :D
Leviathan pattern dreadnought is my favourite by far, the others are cool yes but levi there is both chunky and scary and it looks badass from any point of view, limbs and chassis are both awesome... Too bad I would need to learn another game with other rules and minis (expensive ones too) to field him in the battlefield
Hey, Arthur- thanks for the video, they’re always entertaining👍🏻 I saw a few comments of people asking and describing what Volkite weapons do, and since they are my favorite ranged weapons in 30K/40K, I thought I’d clarify what their capabilities are. “Volkite” is an arcane Martian term for a variety of powerful ray weapons which possess considerable killing power that surpasses most other armaments of the same size. They were once relatively common during the eras of the Age Of Strife and Unification Wars, and the early years of the Space Marine Legions, but by the outbreak of the Horus Heresy they had been mostly replaced by the easier and cheaper to manufacture Terran Bolters. The term for the injury caused by Volkite weapons is “deflagration”, which is a devastating effect on organic matter, explosively burning flesh into ash and jetting fire. They came in a variety of sizes, the smallest being the pistol sized Serpenta, increasing in size through the Charger, the Caliver, the Culverin (which is the largest carriable version, similar to a Heavy Bolter in size), the vehicle and tank-mounted Carronade, and several other larger ones (that unfortunately I can’t remember the names of) to be mounted on Knights and Titans. There’s even a chest mounted version on the Mechanicum Ursarax. I’ve heard of them being described as a super-focused heat-ray as well, but that makes me think of a Melta gun. Anyway- sorry to be so long winded, but I hope that helps anyone wondering just what the fuck Volkites do. Thanks again for the video!
I know that a lot of people think marines are lame, but I think they are cool as hell. They're what got me into the hobby and I still love them, all of them. But you're absolutely right dreadnoughts are the coolest thing about the faction, hands down. My favorite thing about them is that they're not just big robots. When you make one for an army you can have a whole badass backstory. The giant death robot has a name, a history, deeds, and a story about why he is in this coffin of murder. They are old, sometimes ancient, and have a level of respect and honor few others get. I love in the lore when they wake one up to get advice or a better tactical assessment of whatever situation they are in. Then sometimes the dreadnought is like "What the hell year is it? What's going on? What happened to Chapter Master what's his face? last time I was awake it was 5k years ago" Some of them are old enough to have been around fighting vs Horus or the Great Crusade. It's just so awesome.
I like to imagine they were initially entirely automated combat walker stcs, but the imperium found out you could jam an entirely unrelated life support stc system into where the abominable intelligence core is supposed to go, and they’ve just been rolling with it.
3:45 unless You're a certain Leviathan. Dreadnought from the blood angels who found out that he could continue his hobby of sculpting statues while being a dreadnought.
Best part of Dreadnaughts? You are continued to be tortured, until you throw yourself into battle to finally die...and you are too valuable to be allowed to finally rest...YAY!
Gotta shout out my boy Commander Bravestorm, the Tau Dreadnought. He's even got a melee weapon called the Onager Gauntlet and the extra-thick Iridium Armor. Cool dude. Serves Farsight, because of course he does if he's cool and a tau.
5:43 You might be thinking about the assault drill that Forge World made in the mid 2000s along with an inferno cannon. It's what I consider to be the predecessor to the Ironclad.
l just realized how awful the view port on the standard dreadnought is. With how bad their field of view must be it’s a miracle they don’t cause friendly fire.
Would've been cool to look at the Mk. IV Dreadnought that they took off of Forgeworld a while back, had more weapon options than the CastraFerrum, with some Daemon specific variants too
Be me: Run a Black Templar army Playing against wife because we're both nerds, she runs Slaaneshi daemons Wife charges with Keeper of Secrets at my Redemptor Dreadnought casts fist No more Keeper of Secrets Cue me being proud of my chonky tech heresy boi
Started playing 40K back in late 89 when it first came out. Still have all my Rogue Trader era models including my Dreads. I have Space Marines, Imperial Guards, Orks, Eldar, and Harlequins. All are from late 1989 to around 1991/92.
What I really hope, is that the thousand sons get their own psyker dread! I think having a teleporting heavy threat that you can just plop down anywhere in the battlefield to act as a 'distraction carnefex' would be really nifty.
I love dreadnoughts, to the point I've always wanted to try and make as much of a dreadnought-heavy army as I can. 10th ed has given me the opportunity of trying 3 redemptors, and I loved it so much. So now I'm probably gonna fit a Brutalis or two as well as a Ballistus or two.
I miss my 1e Dreadnoughts with the built in flight packs, have one of them anchor a squad of Power Board ridding Terminators or just a squad of them on their own cruising the battlefield looking for trouble.
Let's put a guy in a bulletproof vest. Ok Let's put a guy in a suit of power armor. Ok. Let's put a guy in giant heavy power armor. Ok. Let's put a guy in really really giant armor like a giant robot only there's a bunch of guys piloting it and it can be as big as a building! ...OK. But that's it. .... Let's put an almost corpse into a sort of medium robot armor suit and just leave him there until he dies, and then we reload with another almost corpse. OK! OK! BUT THAT. IS. FUCKING. IT!!! THERE'S A THING CALLED GOING TOO FAR, AND YOU'VE REACHED IT!!! I'm going to take a nap. .....ookkkayyyyy.... AND DON'T PUT ME IN THE ALMOST CORPSE SUIT WHILE I'M NAPPING!! I CANT BELIEVE I ACTUALLY HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT!!
I was introduced to the setting through Dawn of War, and instantly fell in love with the Castaferrum Dreadnought. Big, boxy, deadly what's nought to love?
I'm a big fan of dreads as well. I started collecting way back in 2000 and my first space marine army had 4 of the old pewter bricks. After a long break from the game I'm back to collecting marines and now I've got two Redemptors, a Brutallis, and a Ballistus. Oh, and I'm kind of surprised you didn't mention the Chaplain Dreadnought in your list.
Im a total ork marine, I kludged together an assault former Space wolves dreadnought with jetpack engines ripped off a land speeder. I don't even know if I could field it. i never got the chance. My faction was lost in deep space and had to scavenge to keep their equipment running. I had an assault marine with a chainsaw off a Catachan walker and a double bolt pistol, named Ash.
Dreadnoughts are a pretty good example on scale creep.
The original dreads are barely taller than a primaris lol.
more "stealthy" than the invictor, being able to dip behind a low hill
Not lighter though, i still have one of my old pewter dreads, that thing could kill somebody.
@@TheMalthas Oh yeah man a pinned and glued metal dread was a killing object. I remember knocking one of mine off the table and it didn't break but left a god damn dent in the floor...
I know its personal preference but I like them more now. They SHOULD be big, they're supposed to be walking tanks. They're also easier to make em look really good with a paint job.
@@TheMalthas even as a model they still serve, as a blunt melee weapon.
I love Dreadnoughts. Respect to my boy of chyron, still doesn't know his brothers of lamenters chapters are alive. Please GW, don't make my boy suffer, just let him know so he can finally reunite with his chapter.
A Dreadnought that also works as cheerleader and motivation, truly peak support
If there's one character in 40k who deserves a happy moment it's Chyron. The Deathwatch books need to continue and Chyron finding his Brothers while on a mission needs to happen.
@@ReverendPONT’while on a mission’
Please no, don’t have him find them dying or before they die thinking they may be the last of his brothers…
I don’t wanna be that guy but the Deathwatch isn’t much in the interest of relinquishing one of their insanely valuable dreadnoughts
@@silent_stalker3687 not like that. Like Chyrons DW Team lands on a world to deal with the Xenos and Chyron runs into the Lamenters helping the Citizens and they're all happy. Or another Lamenter joins the DW and runs into Chyron in their Fortress Monestary.
RIP Castraferrum, your ability to actually keep your occupant alive will be missed.
Had a pretty good run though. I still have my metal one I bought back in 2nd edition, that thing could brain someone if placed in a sock.
@@bionicgeekgrrl im trying to get the venerable dreadnought but i do have a furoso.
The old box lives on in the Horus Heresy game, and it's not too shabby there!
@@bionicgeekgrrldamn, metal? I miss my 5th edition plastic.
@@sketch-R yep, in the 80s and 90s the vast majority of gw models were made of white metal. They gradually made more plastic kits as things got cheaper and as white metal got more expensive. This is how finecast came to be too. Metal becomes too expensive, but far too expensive to invest 100k/sprue for everything so they adapted the moulds for resin which caused a number of well known issues. It lasted much longer than ever intended though.
I’m a White Scars main, and I know the Scars attitude towards dreadnoughts is “I would rather die”, but I absolutely love the Leviathan, Redemptor, and Brutalis. Everything about them is just so damn cool, dreadnoughts are definitely top tier grim dark
that's just cuz Cawly is still in a martian patent dispute over his proposed "dreadtrike" lol
Just give a dreadnought two bikes for feet instead
You see that space marine kart with a gun on top of it, the ATV?
Replace the top half with a dreadnough, let the boi go fast
and yet the White Scars are one of the few Heresy Legions who have their own legion specific variant of a Leviathan that you can buy, so it's covered in White Scars details
Curious that they never had the idea to just hook a Battle Brother up to a bike chassis with guns and bayonets.
the best part about Dreadnauts is the endless "Old man sick of Xenos on his damn lawn" jokes you can make with them
That also applies to the necrons
These damn xenos get out of my galactic turf dammit
Left out a crucial downside of the new primaris dreads, in that they’re allegedly burning out the pilots as if they were just another interchangeable part
Since, to my knowledge, Primaris marines cannot be entombed within the old "actually works as a life preserver" Dreadnoughts, does that mean all the famous Space Marine characters that got upgraded into Primaris are basically... doomed if they get mortally wounded?
Let's say Dante gets maimed. He's a 1100 years old, the Blood Angels aren't going to let that living repertory of knowledge go. So they entomb him. But... He was recently turned into Primaris, so he'll just get burnt up and die, won't he?
@@moderndavinci6599 that would be the case
but GW will never let any of their precious named marines get hurt so its never going to be relevant
it would have been an interesting point back when the setting was grim and sometimes dark
Being as he just wants to die but warp Angel gene daddy says not yet my guy I think Dante sees he’s rightfully earned death be granted once he completes the prophecy so he’s gonna full leeroy Jenkins
"I fail to see the problem."
-Dante
Late but doesn’t the Leviathan suffer the same thing too? Granted they’re relics but I think it still applies.
"the cyclonic melta lance that will not only vaporize a tank, but kill the ghosts of the crew inside" that line delivery killed me so hard I'm being interned in a dreadnought as we speak
dreadnaughts are life support; if you die, they try to harvest your gene seed but that's about it for you
Best comment I've seen in a while
Welcome young one, to pain.
-A salamander dreadnought who has been fighting since it was warhammer 40.
I think my favorite variant of the dreadnought is the death company one. Just the idea that you already have a murderous psycho space marine and decide it would be a good idea to put him in what amounts to a walking tank is so funny to me.
It is such a great model too :D
Hate to be "that" guy, but they dont but already fallen blood angels in a dreadnought. Death company dreadnoughts were normal dreads once, they just fell to the black rage after they've been put it one.
@hb3n164, same with the Wulfen dread
There's one who had to have the chasis modified because he also fell to the Red thirst. Don't remember his name, sadly.
The dreadnought named characters always seem to get the best lines and moments in the books too.
"This death is ours, we choose it".
"I would have liked to see the skies of Baal one last time".
'I am Rylanor of the Emperor's Children, Ancient of Rites, Venerable of the Palatine Host, and proud servant of the Emperor of Mankind, Beloved by all! I reject you now and always!'
"I heard bolter fire".
Bless all these stompy xmas presents of death.
"Houses a crippled space marine damaged beyond repair, entombed in a destructive force of a coffin only meant for war, only awoken when needed"
"Such a fun concept"
Dreadnoughts are dope. I do like the idea of a mangled old battle grandpa dispensing wisdom and slaughter while the other marines try to avoid waking him while he’s napping for decades.
Watching this after Playing Space Marine 2, add Massive fucking statue to the list of armaments to the redemptor Dreadnought
IN THE NAME OF EMPEROR, I CAST YOU DOWN.
@@justinm.8016 Holy Terra!
Although there won’t be anymore models im glad the box dreads will always be around in the lore.
That's not true, at least some will still come out under the HK banner (Just like Old Born marines are going to be released under HK), + variants from chapters are still going to be availible (its not neccesarily the basic thing I get that)
Venerable dread models and rules are still in the game
I have waited for literal years for someone to talk about this subject
Dreadnauts are one of my absolute favourite things from 40k
Kirioth talked about them in an episode of Adeptus Ridiculous
There are tons of RUclips videos about Dreadnoughts.
majorkill talked about em
When i first started 40K back in 1991, the Contempter dreads (had a different, strange looking chassis) had twin linked bolters on the back of each powerfist, and a JUMPACK. 😮😁
If you are still looking for dread lore WesHammer does a great video on them. Not only only explaining each type but also the lore on all of them.
"i have awoken"
"Even in death i still serve"
"I will be there soon"
"I am honoured to withness my brothers courage"
"Hey Guys, lets check if friendly fire is on!"
...
"It was..."
“And it still is”
@@TheInvisibleCactusYT*KA-CHONK*
Who needs a pension program when you’re a space marine? PUT ME BACK IN, COACH, I DIDNT HEAR NO BELL
It's worth knowing that the Boxnaught is still around with the Venerable Dreadnought being up for purchase still. Not quite gone.
Honestly prefer the venerable more than the default since it looks neater and allows us to stylish it more to our liking
Oh they just put the two in the same box?
It is only because of the chapter specific versions that it survives, they build off it. It and them are on borrowed time though, they'll get redemptor versions at some point, maybe with their codexes if they design them cleverly to do all of them from the same kit with a unique sprue per chapter and give us a venerable redemptor)
If they get rid of the venerable dreadnaught I will riot
If a space marine is a walking fridge, a dreadnought is a walking intermodal container filled with 12 tons of metal maneuvering in a casual 10kph stroll into your face
As an ork player, I love dreadnoughts. They are perfect if you want a deff dread that looks looted from somewhere else. They're big, scary, and the flat armor makes it easy to add stuff on top of it like more guns or spikes
Looted boxnoughts in mass numbers may follow now boxnaughts are going. The chapter specific ones are on borrowed time until a new redemptor version gets released, which could be sooner for some than others. Probably not entirely during this edition as gw is slow at such things (with valid reasons given the number of product lines they have, and needing to balance tooling investment across them wisely each year (probably why we won't get much more for heresy this year etc as they may well push the new stuff out to next financial year).
I now can't help but think of the idea of an ork just opening up and getting into a dreadnought, putting a chair infront of the dead space marine and through sheer force of will getting control of the machine and putting all the dakka on it.
@@dreamypizza8458 that's basicly what I did with my redemptor. I removed the front plate, put an ork head there, two claws on the side of each shoulders, and orkified the rest of the walker. Really fun, would recommend.
Custodes have their own patterns of dread you seem to have forgot. Those being the Contemptor Achilles, and the Telamon heavy
The Telamon is the most notable of the 2, being a massive “Fuck you” button to anything that gets REMOTELY near the throne room.
Edit: I’m stupid and didn’t read the “Space Marine” part of the title.
Telemons fuck up bloodthirsters in the lore
It says in the description Space marines.... Custodes are no space marines.....
My friend, space marines also use the contemptor.
All good, sir.
@@Bass-ef3drthe contemptor-galatus/Achilles are different tho for starter they're a lot more humanoid looking than even the standard Contemptor
I'm fond of the Deredeo Pattern for its sheer dedication to taking a walking Coffin and throwing "More Dakka" onto it. They are the Dakka Stompas of the Spacies as my Ork playing friend would say.
I'm fond of the Deredeo because it's a homage to the old Space Crusade Chaos dreadie.
Deredeo's truly are embued with the American spirit. (Which is just *MOAR GUNS!!!*)
Hi Arthur. You forgot the little Quirk about the Redemptor pattern; they slowly melt the poor guy piloting it. But as for me, I am a fan of the contemptor Dreadnought, it just seems so reliable.
Better/more safe than the Leviathan dread which drives the guy insane. Imagine being a world eater, having to deal with butchers nails AND a machine spirit eating your patience like a 3 three course meal. Also because of this, any current leviathans with their original occupants are more "vaguely put down in the direction of the enemy while the deployers run for the hills" type of weapons. Its so bad that even the blood angels who have the death company will still hesitate to deploy a relic leviathan because of the levels of batshit the pilot would be (and the means of destruction at his disposal).
Poor guy? I prefere being cooked alive than living as a vegetable for eternity. If hell would exist it would be like this.
Since we're on the topic of Dreadnoughts, you should do a video on Rylanor.
I commented on the video before it was over if you couldn't tell
As a fellow guy named Arthur, I really like the redemptor chassis. He's so chonky
Some of my favorite character chapters in the Heresy books were dreadnoughts. Telemechrus from Know No Fear comes to mind, and Lhorke from Betrayer..
Rylanor, for me~
And Huron Fal, the Death Guard Loyalist
bears mentioning that the three Cawl patterns that mount an actual wounded hero...
kinda rapidly degrade their nervous system, _completely_ defeating the point of keeping your wise knowledgeable veterans around to lead the rest, in favor of being a slightly better tank.
I'd argue that since many of the primaris have not had much combat experience, its not like an ancient hero of great renown is lost. Sides, the whole point of them coming out to share knowledge is so others can carry on after their time on the battlefield.
3:15 I did not think that I would ever hear “light munitions” and “storm bolter” in the same sentence, but here we are
first dread pattern was the furibunudus. created by one of the warlord clans of terra, was absorbed into use by the imperium. mars didnt like working on them as they were not martian-designed. outside of lore, these were the dreadnoughts that were available in the rogue trader days. they were metal and they were only slightly larger than the terminators we have now. no matter how you built one they'd always look dopey and most people were glad to see them replaced by the boxy-noughts.
Ah yes, the OG trio of dreadnought patterns: Contemptor, Furibundus, and Deredeo. AKA in lore as "Chuck", "Fred", and "Eddie"
2:36 your girl has been crushed and is now a puddle on the ground
You forgot to mention that Leviathan Dreads will drive their pilots mad, and Redemptors kill them slowly
Dreadnoughts are honestly one of my favorite parts of 40k. The idea of soldiers being interred into a suit of armor to both act as life support and walking armory is fantastic.
The Deredeo dreadnought in particular being one of my favorite dreadnoughts (after the Telemon and Galatus dreadnoughts).
I find it weird how the Blood Angels are the ones with Psycher Dreadnoughts yet the Blood Ravens are the chapter with the suspicious amount of psychers
Whats even weirder is that Magnus the Red created the Osiron-Contemptor during the Great Crusade and iirc NO ONE ELSE USED THEM!!!!! Apparebtly only the BA know how to create then no
I did not know I needed somebody simping for Dreads for over 15 minutes... but I definitely did. Well done sir, well done.
ONLY IN DEATH DOES DUTY END "are you sure about that?" The imperium making all of its wounded heros have a dante complex is hilarious to me
Man I really want to prosletyze the joys of the Contemptor Incaendus dread, which could fly.
Imagine being a chaos raptor and just seeing a refrigerator with claws rocketing up at you with extreme prejudice
That's my favorite btw, they can slap a librarian in there too I think
"THEY FLY NOW?!?!"
Missed a very important detail about the Redemptor chassis, in that instead of preserving wounded veterans for millennia to come, it instead uses them like AA batteries and burns out most pilots in around a century.
Also the Invictor is basically a practice dreadnought since the pilot is completely unprotected in the cockpit except for his own power armor.
Contemptor pattern Dreadnought my beloved.
I absolutely loved the way you described the Leviathan Dreadnought lol, well done, that's exactly why it's my favorite 😂
You also have to remember how fast these things move. Like they will book it across the battlefield.
Contemptors can actually SPRINT too. I seem to remember reading an excerpt on Reddit about the POV character watching a Contemptor sprint across a battlefield
I played Dawn of War 2 first, not knowing what a Dreadnought was, so the first time seeing Davian Thule come down in that Dreadnought blew my mind.
Deff Dreads are one of my favorite Dreadnaught like units, they look amazing and are tons of fun to use
I’ll admit, the servitors don’t get to me but being one of these things scare me
Servitors are worse off. Only chaos dreadnoughts have a similar fate to a servitor.
@@waynebimmel6784 The poor sod inside mutates so that his flesh extends and fuses with the armour.
Remember servitors are fully concious they just don't have control over their body anymore.
@@AAhmou It is even worse. The machine will be posessed by a demon and the occupant is just tortured and brought with it on the ride. Forever trapped. It does not even have to be a traitor space marine in there. Imagine the horror as you slay your family while having no control.
I prefer T'au Battlesuits, but the OG castaferrum dreadnaught is so cool.
Plus, what an awesome name - CAST IRON FEARS NOTHING.
You have to make a video like this on all the variants of Bolter, that would be awesome!
There's one version of the dreadnought that I absolutely love in the sense of the lore and what I am talking about is the helbrute which for those who don't know are basically the chaos heretic version of a dreadnought that is somewhat sentient. And why I love the idea of this is because of the fact that not only does the design for these abominations look fucking terrifying and cool but also the fact that the idea that these people are getting tortured physically and mentally by this almost sentient mech suit is just something that sounds original on its own but also add in the fact that these things are slowly fusing the pilot and the suit together and overall you get a interesting unit with a unique design, lore, and backstory that also adds horror into the mix and you have yourself something that not only Warhammer 40k fans might like but also horror fans might like as well.
And surprisingly I'm both a Warhammer 40k fan and a horror fan respectfully
Sad you didn't mention the old FW pattern of Dreadnought always thought they looked somewhat unique
I believe those were officially called Mark IV Dreadnoughts. FW took them out of production before GW got rid of the Castraferrum, the bastards. I always liked the way they looked compared to the GW ones with their slight differences, even though they’re almost identical.
The Imperiums disdain for camo in it's 'stealth' units is so Chad. 'Hey...look at us...we're sneaking up on you...deal with it.'
While not really a full variant, the Mortis dreads with quad auto cannon are one of my favorites. Right up there with Wulfen dreadnoughts. "Hey let's give the crazy dreadnought that found a way to Run a giant axe and shield. " whole new meaning to walking war crime.
I think I finaly fell in love with dreadnoughts.
The Orks need to make a Dakkanout and Krumpanout GW by the Trone make it happen! We need this!
I just recently bought a Leviathan i gotta have fun with it
Edit: As far as i know Volkite weapons are basically a in between of Plasma and Melta weapons strenghts of both and weakness of none that's why they are basically just remnant artifacts in 40k where only a hand full of imperial units have such weapons for example the Primaris Lieutenant Model has a Neo Volkite pistol
Pretty much ALL Dreadnoughts are awesome, but my favorite is probably the Leviathan Dreadnought. The fluff, that it was developed in on Terra, in secret, with elements not shared with the Mechanicum as a counter balance to the Red Priesthood is RAD AS HELL. Redemptors, Contemptors, and Ironclads right there after.
I dare say the only Dreads I don't like would be the Chaos ones. :D
EDIT: Oh yeah! The Invictor. Love the thing, always forget it is technically a Dread chassis.
The Invicta??
@@thedyingmeme6 Ah, Invictor? Hilarious scouty chasis that holds a not dead guy.
Awww, no love for the Space Crusade era Chicken walker dread patterns.
Me with two dozens BA dreadnoughts: This is the video I needed.
Honestly my favourite dreadnoughts come from Custodes and Space Wolves. The Custodes ones just look amazing while the Space Wolves ones (Murderfang, Bjorn and venerable) have intricate patterning and amazing weapons (Claws, shields and Axes on a dread? sign me up)
The best dreadnoughts that probably isn't claustrophobic to the space marines is the ones with basically a space marine helmet on them.
You know, if I was paraplegic I would want a heavily armoured over-gunned platform to carry me around.
Dreadnoughts! Dreadnoughts! Dreadnoughts! Dreadnoughts! Dreadnoughts! Dreadnoughts! Dreadnoughts! Dreadnoughts!
Redemptor dreadnought is peak aesthetic
What makes the redempter slightly better is that when it stops working, the marine can just jump out and keep fighting.
That’s not how that works…
@@tfan2222 I didn't mean on table, but rather in universe.
@@ivanquarman01 no you mean the war suit the redemptor is a true dreadnought
Loved the chunky metal death model version, this one would kill a person if you threw it at someone. Maybe that is why GW made it into a plastic one :).
Ironclad and Siege Dreadnoughts are not the same. The siege one is armed with a siege drill and an inferno cannon (a massive flamer).
Hellfire dreadnought is always armed with a missile launcher and a ranged weapon. A dreadnought that is armed with two identical ranged weapons, so for example, two assault cannons, is called a mortis dreadnought. And there is the assault dreadnought, which is essentially just a normal castraferrum but with two power fists. Other than that, a great video!
Pretty late to the party, but since you dropped the question at the beginning, the first thing that came to mind as a dreadnought equivalent in another franchise, is the Protoss Dragoons from StarCraft. They are mostly seen in the first game and they are supposed to do pretty much the same thing, it's an exoskeleton that provides life support to an otherwise mortally wounded Protoss fighter, allowing them to continue fighting.
With that out of the way, I have a great love for dreadnoughts as well, so I'm quite excited about the video. Came across the channel only recently, and I love the work, and the style of the delivery! Keep it up! :D
I did not know about the Deredeo Dreadnought. It looks like it COULD stand a chance to damage a Titan. I like it.
Deredeo's should be renamed to DAKKADAKKADAKKADEO
My love of Dreadnoughts is the reason Iron Hands are the only Space Marine legion i run.
I grew up playing Dawn of War 1 and Dark Crusade and the Castraferrum pattern holds a special place.
Leviathan pattern dreadnought is my favourite by far, the others are cool yes but levi there is both chunky and scary and it looks badass from any point of view, limbs and chassis are both awesome... Too bad I would need to learn another game with other rules and minis (expensive ones too) to field him in the battlefield
Hey, Arthur- thanks for the video, they’re always entertaining👍🏻 I saw a few comments of people asking and describing what Volkite weapons do, and since they are my favorite ranged weapons in 30K/40K, I thought I’d clarify what their capabilities are. “Volkite” is an arcane Martian term for a variety of powerful ray weapons which possess considerable killing power that surpasses most other armaments of the same size. They were once relatively common during the eras of the Age Of Strife and Unification Wars, and the early years of the Space Marine Legions, but by the outbreak of the Horus Heresy they had been mostly replaced by the easier and cheaper to manufacture Terran Bolters. The term for the injury caused by Volkite weapons is “deflagration”, which is a devastating effect on organic matter, explosively burning flesh into ash and jetting fire. They came in a variety of sizes, the smallest being the pistol sized Serpenta, increasing in size through the Charger, the Caliver, the Culverin (which is the largest carriable version, similar to a Heavy Bolter in size), the vehicle and tank-mounted Carronade, and several other larger ones (that unfortunately I can’t remember the names of) to be mounted on Knights and Titans. There’s even a chest mounted version on the Mechanicum Ursarax. I’ve heard of them being described as a super-focused heat-ray as well, but that makes me think of a Melta gun. Anyway- sorry to be so long winded, but I hope that helps anyone wondering just what the fuck Volkites do. Thanks again for the video!
10:37 Is that a Goblin- sorry, a Snotling (or maybe a Gretchin) on it's shoulder? Wearing a Christmas cap?
I'm loving my new Venerable dreadnaught!
He's great!
I know that a lot of people think marines are lame, but I think they are cool as hell. They're what got me into the hobby and I still love them, all of them. But you're absolutely right dreadnoughts are the coolest thing about the faction, hands down. My favorite thing about them is that they're not just big robots. When you make one for an army you can have a whole badass backstory. The giant death robot has a name, a history, deeds, and a story about why he is in this coffin of murder. They are old, sometimes ancient, and have a level of respect and honor few others get. I love in the lore when they wake one up to get advice or a better tactical assessment of whatever situation they are in. Then sometimes the dreadnought is like "What the hell year is it? What's going on? What happened to Chapter Master what's his face? last time I was awake it was 5k years ago" Some of them are old enough to have been around fighting vs Horus or the Great Crusade. It's just so awesome.
I like to imagine they were initially entirely automated combat walker stcs, but the imperium found out you could jam an entirely unrelated life support stc system into where the abominable intelligence core is supposed to go, and they’ve just been rolling with it.
i thought they used to be used as miner rigs, since unmodified humans are significantly smaller than Space Marines
3:45 unless You're a certain Leviathan. Dreadnought from the blood angels who found out that he could continue his hobby of sculpting statues while being a dreadnought.
Best part of Dreadnaughts? You are continued to be tortured, until you throw yourself into battle to finally die...and you are too valuable to be allowed to finally rest...YAY!
Gotta shout out my boy Commander Bravestorm, the Tau Dreadnought. He's even got a melee weapon called the Onager Gauntlet and the extra-thick Iridium Armor. Cool dude. Serves Farsight, because of course he does if he's cool and a tau.
5:43 You might be thinking about the assault drill that Forge World made in the mid 2000s along with an inferno cannon. It's what I consider to be the predecessor to the Ironclad.
l just realized how awful the view port on the standard dreadnought is. With how bad their field of view must be it’s a miracle they don’t cause friendly fire.
Would've been cool to look at the Mk. IV Dreadnought that they took off of Forgeworld a while back, had more weapon options than the CastraFerrum, with some Daemon specific variants too
Be me:
Run a Black Templar army
Playing against wife because we're both nerds, she runs Slaaneshi daemons
Wife charges with Keeper of Secrets at my Redemptor
Dreadnought casts fist
No more Keeper of Secrets
Cue me being proud of my chonky tech heresy boi
"This guy slaps your girls ass, what do you do?"
Call her family and tell them we need to start preparing for a funeral.
Get in the dreadnought shinji
my only gripe with the new redemptor dreadnaught is they all have a pot belly
Started playing 40K back in late 89 when it first came out. Still have all my Rogue Trader era models including my Dreads.
I have Space Marines, Imperial Guards, Orks, Eldar, and Harlequins. All are from late 1989 to around 1991/92.
What I really hope, is that the thousand sons get their own psyker dread! I think having a teleporting heavy threat that you can just plop down anywhere in the battlefield to act as a 'distraction carnefex' would be really nifty.
Every sixty seconds you spend angry, upset or mad, is a full minute of happiness you will never get back.
I love dreadnoughts, to the point I've always wanted to try and make as much of a dreadnought-heavy army as I can. 10th ed has given me the opportunity of trying 3 redemptors, and I loved it so much. So now I'm probably gonna fit a Brutalis or two as well as a Ballistus or two.
Bjorn Rylanor Anchorite are pretty badass and have great lore think there might even be a dreadnought chapter master too
I miss my 1e Dreadnoughts with the built in flight packs, have one of them anchor a squad of Power Board ridding Terminators or just a squad of them on their own cruising the battlefield looking for trouble.
I love the lil' gobbo on the gunboat dreadnought! Gonna miss the old school dreadnoughts eh?
My personal favorite is the "Hokey Pokey" pattern; it's what you use when you need to turn things around;)
Let's put a guy in a bulletproof vest.
Ok
Let's put a guy in a suit of power armor.
Ok.
Let's put a guy in giant heavy power armor.
Ok.
Let's put a guy in really really giant armor like a giant robot only there's a bunch of guys piloting it and it can be as big as a building!
...OK. But that's it.
....
Let's put an almost corpse into a sort of medium robot armor suit and just leave him there until he dies, and then we reload with another almost corpse.
OK! OK! BUT THAT. IS. FUCKING. IT!!! THERE'S A THING CALLED GOING TOO FAR, AND YOU'VE REACHED IT!!! I'm going to take a nap.
.....ookkkayyyyy....
AND DON'T PUT ME IN THE ALMOST CORPSE SUIT WHILE I'M NAPPING!! I CANT BELIEVE I ACTUALLY HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT!!
the one strange thing about them is that they actually know fear unlike normal stranshuman psychos (via the Know no fear book i think)
I was introduced to the setting through Dawn of War, and instantly fell in love with the Castaferrum Dreadnought. Big, boxy, deadly what's nought to love?
I'm a big fan of dreads as well. I started collecting way back in 2000 and my first space marine army had 4 of the old pewter bricks. After a long break from the game I'm back to collecting marines and now I've got two Redemptors, a Brutallis, and a Ballistus. Oh, and I'm kind of surprised you didn't mention the Chaplain Dreadnought in your list.
I like that one bit where Commander bravestorm finds out the dreadnought he was just fighting is older then his entire species
Im a total ork marine, I kludged together an assault former Space wolves dreadnought with jetpack engines ripped off a land speeder. I don't even know if I could field it. i never got the chance.
My faction was lost in deep space and had to scavenge to keep their equipment running. I had an assault marine with a chainsaw off a Catachan walker and a double bolt pistol, named Ash.
Babe wake up!!! New arthur vid!!!
"I can't name a fictional setting that has something similar to it"
Protos Dragoon: "was I a joke to you?"
I love the use of fuckhands mic mike
I love how the casterferum is basically just the sarcophagus with arms and legs strapped to it.