It was great meeting you Sam ! Also thank you for this opportunity, it was an awesome day over all. The charger did so much better than I thought for being this heavy, great car over all !!
Nice to meet Henry. Our Race was VERY Interesting, I think... We have to do it and make video of it.. but Do Not accidentally say the result here.. win/lose it was interesting and worth watching.... Sam, we'll get that one done soon ? Get a S5 and few others together
Man Oh man, the only channel on this platform who shows multiple fair races of realistic cars and not $150,000 vehicles. Continue the great work your videos never disappoints!
The BMW has such a huge power to weight advantage that I was actually expecting it to be a lot worse for the Charger. The 392 really hung in there out of the hole !!!
Bmw's always had great top end, I knew this would be the result and you're right about the weight also. I love my american muscle cars but I knew that charger wouldn't win.
What does "Tuned" mean? They got equal power except a turbo car will always beat non-turbo. Now how many litters of engine displacement you need to replace one PSI of forced induction? LOL
@@aleksankazakov turbo cars definitely don't "always beat" non turbo cars. That's just silly and incorrect. Like for like, same weight, same peak power, same gear ratio...a naturally aspirated car will eat a turbo cars lunch.
@@KamikazeSOF2 They have similar power , no one says exactly 1:1. The M3 had less but with in margin or error its considered the same to make any difference in just power. Its very hard and expensive to make NA motor forced induction like on a 5.0/6.2/6.4 or just on any NA motor, this will cost 10 -15K easily and will never run smooth as a factory one but since you are talking of "what if scenario", that S58 and B58 engines are closed deck design engines, (no more blown heads) its proven to be good for 700+ hp on stock motor. We are talking bone daily stock. All you have to do is buy another turbo, downpipe, pump and a $500 software. The whole bill will be under 3K to make it happen. And NO, not any Corvette will eat S58 engine, in the matter of fact any 400hp BMW will eat an LS stock Corvette like ZO6 out of 2XXXs with ease , Ive been there Ive done it, A regular stock KIA Stinger GT will be faster than LS cars.
It was spinning on the dig runs. Look at run 5 when it has no traction issues and learn something lol. M3 left the land yacht like it was standing still.
@cw2840 I mean those turbos spooling up have something to do with that. Plus the charger has launch control. I own a 18 scat and if the BMW was close to the price I'd have bought the bmw
So basically a tune M3 will start to catch up at the end of the a stock 392 charger's 4th gear? That's what? 105-110? That's actually very impressive for the charger since it's like 800lbs heavier.
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Lmao the christian god sacrificed itself to itself in order to appease itself and therefore save humanity from ... itself. It has its only son murdered on purpose to stop itself from hurting its own creations for things they'd admittedly not yet done. Awesome story.
The m3 is hard to launch since full torque hit around 2k rpm then tcs cuts throttle or you spin if it’s off. Roll is where they shine. Embarrassed a scat on the highway the other day
I miss my 392. It’s a great toy out of the box. I had my Scat Pack cammed with LTH and boy it was a fun car. Not worth the platform to modify those Mopar’s. I would have chosen the S55 M3/M4 based on the platform.
I've run 392 in my stock f80 dct and run out of 392s life dig or roll. It's never been that close when my car was stock. I don't have the f80 anymore. The F80 is a hell of a car! Traded it in on a 997.2 turbo 911.
Properly designed NA engines usually have an initial advantage over forced induction engines. Even with unnoticable lag times in modern forced engines NA are initially still more free to rev unrestricted since they arent wirking to build up exhaust temp or force to drive anything and have no extra belts that adds friction but once a turbo/super charger begins blowing then the tables can easily turn.
that was cool whats the MSRP on both also are they both stock? i heard you say the M3 was tuned but im not sure if you meant factory tuned or the owner had it tuned?
I feel they shoulda did the race with a stock M3. This wasn’t really fair. Update: once that bmw put sport mode on, was it really that close???? Stfu 😂😂😂😂
@@youtubemanswagroy212 Ight chill out if it was a Hellcat probably would be different but the M3 beating the 392s consistently its almost 800 pounds lighter
@@robertharrisonsr955 really you must be modded because I also had a 05 Goat and the best time stock was a 13.4 @ 106 332 RWHP and now I have a 2021 widebody scatpack 392 and it went 12.2 @ 114 and it makes 421 RWHP so stock for stock my scat is a bit faster..
Lmao bruh it’s cuz the m3 is making so much torque down low it’s having traction issues. Look at the rolls, especially roll 5 when it doesn’t have traction issues. Nowhere to be found
@@christianjosue9263 thats why the tuned bmw barely beat a stock charger in the video and got waxed off the line. Loke I said with no tune it would've probably lost
@@tc6041 bro what u gon tell me 💀 the driver sucked i used to own a bmw 3 i would keep up with a hellcat. Now i drive a q60 with just a jb4 and beat bolt on mustangs corvettes and most of all chargers
Oh trust me i had a single turbo 335 upgraded to the teeth besides the stock block and it was a hellcat and scat killer it was an e92 so it weighed almost a ton less than the scat and hellcat and it was well over 700 crank hp and around 650 whp at only 20psi
@@thegamerhd1853 you know, the more I've gone back and reviewed this particular video, the more curious I become about RPM guage readings on that scat during the sport mode runs...just saying 😎
Props to the Charger driver. That hooked up well and usually that’s the issue. Overall, I’m shocked the BMW didn’t smash the Charger considering the Charger is stock and fat and the BMW is tuned
They are not at the track doing quarter mile times this is pretty much like a street race & just testing the cars out against each other on a real world basis... If you've been racing 1/4 mile before you know how much it can vary That's why they're testing it out, both cars against each other so you can see real-world performance 👍👍
@@honda116969 They are actually lined up to run the 1/4 mile distance. Sam is getting his new Dragy soon.. I have a drag app on my phone (reasonable accurate) and I ran mine average of low 13's
@@honda116969 i think I agree with you. I have my dragy but it’s absolutely worthless. If you want to get good times you need the prepped area. Otherwise this is street racing not to get best times. Real world review
Hey. Owner of the sexy charger here. 😄 Was a fun day, thanks to all involved. I welcome any questions. My insta is 392.Niki. shoutout to Elusive Auto Club, @Elusive_Toronto on the gram. Good races Enri, love the fitment on your whip. 👌 Y'all have a good day.
I just discovered you and I am really enjoying your content. Some of the comparisons are a bit wonky though. In this one you are comparing a BMW that is Hellcat money vs a Scat Pack that is $20k less expensive. Not sure if you are comparing cars by horse power or what the rational is. But, if you run the Hellcat that is similar money to the M3 the Hellcat will eat it's lunch. But, in this comparison I am surprised with the weight difference that the Scat still get's a jump on it. I don't know what the length is of the track. But, Scat's are 1/8 mile cars. They are hard to beat in the 8th (dollar for dollar of course). But, they lose steam on the top end. They are definitely not 1/4 mile cars. They are a blast stoplight to stoplight. Keep it up. I am enjoying it.
I think this was a great race and a fair race. Although the Charger was stock and the BMW tuned, the charger as stock, had twice the displacement of the BMW! And besides, the Scat is also a high performance car!
@@MikeyG003 current comparison, with both vehicles available at this time. I’m well aware it’s a different beast, hence the price tag for m3 (over $100kusd). My comment was just to put it in perspective. This close to a 4400 lb stock N/A sedan ranging from $40-50kusd. This behemoth is not bad at track as well, the streets with a lot of torque is always a killer. But I agree a better comparison for current M3 is the ol Hellcat…
@@vincealince_SRT well with the price difference you’re getting more of a car too, even on this generation m3. Better handling/ interior/ plus basic mods and it’s a rocket ship that’ll smoke stock hellcats and keep up with modded ones in a straight line. New ones are too fast when modded and they’re just barely unlocking the potential. One shop hit a 9.44 quarter mile and 5.44 60-130 with new m3…that’s fast af with basic mods lol.
Before i watched i already knew the outcome. 800lb weight difference, low end boost helps the bmw and its a dct. Give the charger at least intake, exhaust and a tune and it should win digs and keep up better on a roll.
@@freshdc unfortunately not I'm stationed out here in Germany and those F80s will beat a scat pack in stock form and on the Nürburgring where it really counts
@@huevon14200006 you’re dumb, the f80 have 475-480 crank hp stock. They dyno around 420whp stock. On top of weighing 800 pounds less…the charger will never catch up only when m3 having traction issues
Bad driver Who doesn’t know the car, or the modes. If he put it in sport mode to traction control off, lightly break jacked it and floored it, he would have crushed the dodge off the line.
You run what you have available to you? Scheduling is often the Achilles heel. Do you know of a 550i that is available for a race and run this one back?
Sam you should do battle of the m4s. F82 m4 coupe vs f83 m4 cabrio to see if there is a difference. Just giving out ideas since no races have been documented on coupe vs cabrio m4s
You do understand we now have to find out how the Stinger GT fares against the M3, right? I'm surprised how the 392 was able to get the drop on the M3.
@@MrGunzngirlz 2 weeks ago i smoked a white 392 with my stinger GT. I don't know if it's the same one but they look the same. The m3 will take a stock stinger.
You can always tell who’s hurt by the results bc they’ll always be like “WeLL MY B58 eATs ScATs aLl dAY!” 😂 no one cares bro I promise we all just watched the same video
it would be a cool statistic to know in general if a car comes from behind and wins what speed it had to get to in order to pass, if that makes sense. like "the BMW passed the Charger when it reached 80mph"
There is a youtube video on that. TFL did this already. The SRT durango walked the ford explorer until the explorer got a 5 star tune on it. But stock vs stock the SRT will destroy an ST.
Already been done. I did this last fall. The Durango SRT pulled it hard off a dig and kept that distance all the way down the track. On a roll it was slightly closer and the Explorer ST is no slouch. SRT has the immediate punch off the line with the AWD.
I test drove an m340 they claim 0 to 60 in 4 seconds what V6 could do that? It felt very slow compared to the scat pack I was like where is the power in this thing
@Alex Shafer m 340 is slow no way you'd buy the m340 after test driving the scat pack I even took it on the highway it was pathetic even the a35 AMG feels faster than the m340 and is more fun to drive the m340 is slow and is way behind in technology compared to the a35 and it has ugly gauges and ugly interior compared to the a35
The price is the key point.. u could buy a 392 of any model, charger challenger durango so on.. and mod to be faster then a stock m3 and still have money left over
If you're talking about Price? rather than preference. If you've got the bread to buy the better car you're going to want the BMW. If you don't have the bread, you're going to want the Charger with mods. and then Preference it just comes down to what you like more.
@@matthewburkholder1076 WAY more issues. And not really cheaper unless it's dealership vs dealership haha. Parts and labor aren't that expensive if you know your people or know your own car.
@@nickpappy18 I've purchased multiple windshields for a variety of American and japanese cars, all hit around that $200 mark new I helped a guy find a used windshield for his bmw, 5 series I believe it was. A used one was $750
YEAH NO. You can't get much extra power tuning a naturally aspirated engine as you can forced induction, not even close. The Hellcat was probably spinning
What crappy tune does the M3 have? Mine makes 480 but my torque is 528 these are my dyno numbers. I think that M3 may have 500+ on torque and the number is wrong or it’s a bad tune.
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It was great meeting you Sam ! Also thank you for this opportunity, it was an awesome day over all. The charger did so much better than I thought for being this heavy, great car over all !!
Nice to meet Henry. Our Race was VERY Interesting, I think... We have to do it and make video of it.. but Do Not accidentally say the result here.. win/lose it was interesting and worth watching.... Sam, we'll get that one done soon ? Get a S5 and few others together
Did you guys use launch control on the f80? Mine usually hooks up pretty good
@@Justanothercarguynyc my launch control wasn’t working for some reason, so therefore there was no launch control being used
Hey Enri your car looking fresh on video! :)
Lmao I get that ur being nice and all but u absolutely put bus lengths on that charger if both of u got traction equally
Man Oh man, the only channel on this platform who shows multiple fair races of realistic cars and not $150,000 vehicles. Continue the great work your videos never disappoints!
Thank you
A fair race would be a tuned scat pack vs tuned M3🙄, or a stock vs stock!
I am not so sure about fair race comment??
@@dennissmith7214 nah that's not a fair race lol, 70k vs 40k car. A fair race is hellcat widebody vs m3 since they cost the same, both at 70k.
@@gc1087 bmw fanboys wont like that one tho
That M3 is beautiful. Looks much better than the new one. And the lowering, wheels and stance are spot on.
The BMW has such a huge power to weight advantage that I was actually expecting it to be a lot worse for the Charger. The 392 really hung in there out of the hole !!!
Bmw's always had great top end, I knew this would be the result and you're right about the weight also. I love my american muscle cars but I knew that charger wouldn't win.
That BMW is literally in a hellcat price bracket though. Value for money Scat Pack all day.
@@f8widescat392 well it is a BMW though. They'll always be much more expensive than an american car.
@@andrenapper8802 right. So with that logic, a more accurate comparison would be the beamer vs a hellcat.
@@f8widescat392 exactly
Charger did pretty damn good considering the M3 is tuned and a lot lighter
The charger basically beat a tuned m3, how bout give the 392 a tune? The m3 would be so gapped that it wouldn't catch back up
What does "Tuned" mean? They got equal power except a turbo car will always beat non-turbo. Now how many litters of engine displacement you need to replace one PSI of forced induction? LOL
@@aleksankazakov turbo cars definitely don't "always beat" non turbo cars. That's just silly and incorrect. Like for like, same weight, same peak power, same gear ratio...a naturally aspirated car will eat a turbo cars lunch.
@@KamikazeSOF2 They have similar power , no one says exactly 1:1. The M3 had less but with in margin or error its considered the same to make any difference in just power.
Its very hard and expensive to make NA motor forced induction like on a 5.0/6.2/6.4 or just on any NA motor, this will cost 10 -15K easily and will never run smooth as a factory one but since you are talking of "what if scenario", that S58 and B58 engines are closed deck design engines, (no more blown heads)
its proven to be good for 700+ hp on stock motor.
We are talking bone daily stock.
All you have to do is buy another turbo, downpipe, pump and a $500 software.
The whole bill will be under 3K to make it happen.
And NO, not any Corvette will eat S58 engine, in the matter of fact any 400hp BMW will eat an LS stock Corvette like ZO6 out of 2XXXs with ease , Ive been there Ive done it,
A regular stock KIA Stinger GT will be faster than LS cars.
@@jpgonzalez6325 in no world is a 392 keeping up with a m3 lol the s55 is the superior engine.
The BMW was tuned and almost couldn't get away from the factory U.S.S land yacht. Quite impressive for such a big heavy car.
Lol you can build a car but if you don’t got the latest driver mod none of that shit matters!
Yeah cuz the bmw is wheel spinning more than the scat pack that’s why lmao
It was spinning on the dig runs. Look at run 5 when it has no traction issues and learn something lol. M3 left the land yacht like it was standing still.
@cw2840 I mean those turbos spooling up have something to do with that. Plus the charger has launch control. I own a 18 scat and if the BMW was close to the price I'd have bought the bmw
Impressive??? That Chrysler got walked 😂😂😂
So basically a tune M3 will start to catch up at the end of the a stock 392 charger's 4th gear? That's what? 105-110? That's actually very impressive for the charger since it's like 800lbs heavier.
Seriously. That Scat Pack surprised me. That big girl gets up and goes with authority. Damn! Newfound respect.
Yea in normal mode you saw what happened when they switched to sport mode.
@@TheKasai23 Normal mode or not, the Charger Scat Pack is thousands less than the M3 and is nearly 800lbs heavier. AND the M3 is tuned!
@@Soh90 that third race in sport mode showed different my boy if you’re going to be delusional that’s fine ima end it here.
@@Soh90 and the bmw is tunedddd? Says who that’s an m3 stock but whatever you need to say to be happy. Loserrrr
I don’t remember seeing a preview for this race, but I’m not complaining lol.
Go into the community is there ;)
I love this channel. It gets straight to the point!
It's almost 1000 lbs difference between the 2 cars....not sure why anyone would think this would have ended differently.
That’s what I was saying
And let’s not forget the M3 starts @ 70k
@@bigjimflying7195 not the 2021, now it starts over 80k
and $30k
The bmw is tuned apparently. No wonder that 6.4L v8 was not suffice
Super impressive for the power:weight ratio. Scat pulling hard until 4th or so. Imagine if it went on a diet and got a tune of its own.
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Lmao the christian god sacrificed itself to itself in order to appease itself and therefore save humanity from ... itself. It has its only son murdered on purpose to stop itself from hurting its own creations for things they'd admittedly not yet done. Awesome story.
@@Ophois47 nice hatered. But that's par for the course with you atheists
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Love the sound of the Charger! 🔥
My guy in m3 needs to learn how to launch the car 😄😄
Seriously, would had been a better & closer race off the line.
He doesn’t know how to launch any car to be fair lol he lose most races from a dig
@@NoChaserNoChaser504 Lol, I said the same thing in my head watching this video “he always lose” lmfao
The m3 is hard to launch since full torque hit around 2k rpm then tcs cuts throttle or you spin if it’s off. Roll is where they shine. Embarrassed a scat on the highway the other day
M3 launch control is a joke to be fair
Two cars with virtually identical hp and torque…. But an 800lb weight difference… too obvious
Even the 5.7 just had the good low end torque that always catches people off guard because they’re so heavy but after that it has an issue
I miss my 392. It’s a great toy out of the box. I had my Scat Pack cammed with LTH and boy it was a fun car. Not worth the platform to modify those Mopar’s. I would have chosen the S55 M3/M4 based on the platform.
I've run 392 in my stock f80 dct and run out of 392s life dig or roll. It's never been that close when my car was stock. I don't have the f80 anymore. The F80 is a hell of a car! Traded it in on a 997.2 turbo 911.
Yeah I dog them even in my 6 speed lol. Just too heavy
Almost 800lbs of weight difference is no joke dude
And my guy said" a bit heavier " smh
True but less power aswell
@@fartsoundeffect5013 yeah only 5hp less😂😂more like 40hp less
@@fartsoundeffect5013 bro does that look like the new 2021 g80 m3?😂😂
@@fartsoundeffect5013 Wait my bad I didn't see that it was tuned I feel stupid asf now😂😂
@@fartsoundeffect5013 , munich is famous for underrating their hp.
Properly designed NA engines usually have an initial advantage over forced induction engines. Even with unnoticable lag times in modern forced engines NA are initially still more free to rev unrestricted since they arent wirking to build up exhaust temp or force to drive anything and have no extra belts that adds friction but once a turbo/super charger begins blowing then the tables can easily turn.
Stinger GT vs Scat pack!! Also, are you using launch control/launching any of the runs? I cant tell..
He showed a preview of this . .. trying to see if he already uploaded it. And I missed it?
Stinger lol get lost
@@titusrome2863 Love them or hate them, they're quick.
@@titusrome2863 Stingers are faster than thier specs - they walk most!
@@davidcarey1822 crazy considering the specs on paper is more on par with a charger R/T 5.7
however the stinger performance is on scatpack levels.
I Thought The ScatPack Was Going To Win but DAMN When The M3 Passed Him Fast And Nicely Done ✅
Power to weight my guy
@@arixramirez3701 shut up foo
Your content is improving every time man! Keep it up!
Holly shit great editing I thought this was a million plus channel
BMW has a huge advantage, it’s way lighter, and it has a twin turbo, while the charger is naturally aspirated.
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Yep I knew how this would go before the race started.
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For those who commented in here against common sense information, are the bmw fanboys we've all come to laugh at. 🤦♂️😂🤣😂🤣
I'm confused it seemed like the charger would hook better from a dead stop and then got out of it almost during the end of the run?
This video was shot to make people believe that the M3 is faster it's not. Don't believe the hype.
that was cool whats the MSRP on both also are they both stock? i heard you say the M3 was tuned but im not sure if you meant factory tuned or the owner had it tuned?
I'm impressed that guy could launch his scat that well. That's what usually kills them in a race.
Can you do a race with the M3 against the 2020 M340i would love to see that!
I roll raced one in my M2 Competition which has the same engine as m3/m4. I gapped him, he was pretty quick though.
M340i vs scat pack would be interesting
@@devn3813 m340 might get the scat pack on a roll.
I’m impressed with my fellow scat 😎
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Great video and nice runs for both cars! And Bravo to the flag man Stavro!
I feel they shoulda did the race with a stock M3. This wasn’t really fair. Update: once that bmw put sport mode on, was it really that close???? Stfu 😂😂😂😂
Stock m3 would still win but I agree would have been a more fair match up.
@@LoXHumaN of course 😂 but like you said it would be more fair
@@LoXHumaN this one was modded and barely won. a stock m3 would get gapped
@@youtubemanswagroy212 barely won the digs, rolls the m3 gapped. It was on a weak tune as well if it’s making under 500 to the crank.
@@youtubemanswagroy212 Ight chill out if it was a Hellcat probably would be different but the M3 beating the 392s consistently its almost 800 pounds lighter
Damn I’m surprised by that Scat Pack. That big girl gets up and GOES! Wow lol
It is a big ole momma!!!!
So fun to drive. I love it
Really Mopar lose all four races..heavy slow my 05 GOAT beat 392 all day
Dodge is killing the car world everything they make now pretty much race lol
@@robertharrisonsr955 really you must be modded because I also had a 05 Goat and the best time stock was a 13.4 @ 106 332 RWHP and now I have a 2021 widebody scatpack 392 and it went 12.2 @ 114 and it makes 421 RWHP so stock for stock my scat is a bit faster..
Cool races. Wish the BMW was stock. And man that charger sounds incredible.
Thank you. Pretty much stock sound!
Bmw still woulda won if it was stock
Wouldn’t matter since he’s not part of the yacht club
@@cw2840 no he barely won with a tune lol
@@zurielthompson6420 there’s plenty of races of stock scat packs racing stock M3s and the M3 walks it everytime lol
The charger has so much low end grunt it's hard to catch at first 💪🏾
Cant beat the tq of a hemi
@@velly96 look at the torque of the M3 on the roll.. turbo’s makes torque bro!
Lmao bruh it’s cuz the m3 is making so much torque down low it’s having traction issues. Look at the rolls, especially roll 5 when it doesn’t have traction issues. Nowhere to be found
@@MikeyG003 gapplebees
@@scarface9617 he doesn’t know anything about cars lol, we all know the m3 making wayyyy more torque and all of it hits at about 2krpm
The 🚢 does pretty good in this video! 🤣😭
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Well I kind of knew the results… why not stock vs stock? That would be more interesting wouldn’t it lol?
Cause then the bmw wouldn't have won most likely lol
@@tc6041 wym just a tune bmw would take on a fbo slow charger 💀. Heavy ass boats got some big engines and are slow asf
@@christianjosue9263 thats why the tuned bmw barely beat a stock charger in the video and got waxed off the line. Loke I said with no tune it would've probably lost
@@tc6041 bro what u gon tell me 💀 the driver sucked i used to own a bmw 3 i would keep up with a hellcat. Now i drive a q60 with just a jb4 and beat bolt on mustangs corvettes and most of all chargers
@@christianjosue9263 those q60s move damn good. I got a mustang and 1 kept up with me til around 140. I assume he had exhaust and tune only
Nice race but definitely seen the m3 taking it would’ve loved to see a simple tuned 335i vs a scat pack
Oh trust me i had a single turbo 335 upgraded to the teeth besides the stock block and it was a hellcat and scat killer it was an e92 so it weighed almost a ton less than the scat and hellcat and it was well over 700 crank hp and around 650 whp at only 20psi
Surprised me, that scat hooked really well. I usually race scat packs becuase I can keep up off the line. But the m3 demolishes on the rolls.
When Scats get a good launch and traction, they boogie like Saturday night fever
Roll racing is what really matters that's what counts most , and holy shit talking about getting gapped!😄
@@germanengineering204 said no one ever.
@@germanengineering204 dig or nothing. 😌
@@germanengineering204 hahaha no digs bro much harder
I’m really surprised the 392 had the better launch first 2 runs. With the weight difference a normal BMW would have been a closer I think
the M3 looks like it was fighting traction
That is a great matchup. Keep up the great content.
That charger held its own pretty well considering the numbers. I'd probably pick the charger just for having more room alone.
Appreciate your comment!
I been wanting to see this forever
Why is the BMW tuned? Why not stock for stock ?
Why didn't you run the scat at full potential in track mode???
it would be unfair 😭😭
That is the question!! 🤔
@@thegamerhd1853 you know, the more I've gone back and reviewed this particular video, the more curious I become about RPM guage readings on that scat during the sport mode runs...just saying 😎
It wouldn’t have made a difference
@@MikeyG003 yes it would actually 😭
Twin turbos vs naturally aspirated is never a fair match
Its not twinn turbo its twinn power turbo which means a single twinn scroll turbo
@@joshkillen8033 that charger has more than twice the displacement two more cylinders and more HP. Only thing not fair is the tune
@@joshkillen8033 the S55 engine comes with two turbochargers bro they only use the twin scroll single turbo on the N55 and B58 engine
On the straight drags if that Charger was closer in weight it probably would have taken that M3! Love the vids y'all!
Gotta give props to the Charger for holding off the M3 as long as it did with a 1,000 pound weight disadvantage and similar power numbers.
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Props to the Charger driver. That hooked up well and usually that’s the issue. Overall, I’m shocked the BMW didn’t smash the Charger considering the Charger is stock and fat and the BMW is tuned
Excuse me, we are big framed okay. 😤 Lmaooo I'm foolin'
It might be tuned, but the turbo still has some lag.
The biggest problem with that generation M3 is that it’s notoriously difficult to launch
@@MrM4rvelous it’s the “big framed” for me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@chiemekaa have you ever driven a F80? You realize they’re always in boost right?
Love your videos but please share 0-60 times and quarter mile times.
They are not at the track doing quarter mile times this is pretty much like a street race & just testing the cars out against each other on a real world basis... If you've been racing 1/4 mile before you know how much it can vary That's why they're testing it out, both cars against each other so you can see real-world performance 👍👍
@@honda116969 They are actually lined up to run the 1/4 mile distance. Sam is getting his new Dragy soon.. I have a drag app on my phone (reasonable accurate) and I ran mine average of low 13's
@@honda116969 i think I agree with you. I have my dragy but it’s absolutely worthless. If you want to get good times you need the prepped area. Otherwise this is street racing not to get best times. Real world review
You can google the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. These are real world videos which I long with many others find extremely entertaining.
@@SamCarLegion sam forget 0-60 at list give as the times... Just like in car wow videos. He gives 1/4 m times.
Is there any way you could get the Jeep srt awd vs the m3 bmw
Notice the go pro set ups. They knew how this was going to go👍 bmw ftw
The way the M3 passes the Charger though, wow, that's power !!
Hey. Owner of the sexy charger here. 😄
Was a fun day, thanks to all involved. I welcome any questions. My insta is 392.Niki. shoutout to Elusive Auto Club, @Elusive_Toronto on the gram.
Good races Enri, love the fitment on your whip. 👌
Y'all have a good day.
What brand tires and size are on the scatpack.. always seems to hook good or he is just used to launching..
275/40/20 Cooper Zeon G1 All Season
What about track mode in the charger?
I just discovered you and I am really enjoying your content. Some of the comparisons are a bit wonky though. In this one you are comparing a BMW that is Hellcat money vs a Scat Pack that is $20k less expensive. Not sure if you are comparing cars by horse power or what the rational is. But, if you run the Hellcat that is similar money to the M3 the Hellcat will eat it's lunch. But, in this comparison I am surprised with the weight difference that the Scat still get's a jump on it. I don't know what the length is of the track. But, Scat's are 1/8 mile cars. They are hard to beat in the 8th (dollar for dollar of course). But, they lose steam on the top end. They are definitely not 1/4 mile cars. They are a blast stoplight to stoplight. Keep it up. I am enjoying it.
I had an F80 it was the most fun I’ve had
Scat is crazy didn't think it was gonna hang wit the bmw..💯💪💣😁...A merica
Wonder if u used launch control on the m3 if it would have been better results when starting off
No bmw launch control suck in those years
@@andrewatsv2718 exactly
If he brake boosted, the Charger wouldn't have a chance. Not sure why he never does this in any of the cars??
I think this was a great race and a fair race. Although the Charger was stock and the BMW tuned, the charger as stock, had twice the displacement of the BMW! And besides, the Scat is also a high performance car!
Your a donut
Twice the displacement(not really) and twice the weight. Also less than half the price of a new M3
@@vincealince_SRT lmao how are you gonna compare this thing to the new m3? That’s on a whole different level
@@MikeyG003 current comparison, with both vehicles available at this time. I’m well aware it’s a different beast, hence the price tag for m3 (over $100kusd). My comment was just to put it in perspective. This close to a 4400 lb stock N/A sedan ranging from $40-50kusd. This behemoth is not bad at track as well, the streets with a lot of torque is always a killer. But I agree a better comparison for current M3 is the ol Hellcat…
@@vincealince_SRT well with the price difference you’re getting more of a car too, even on this generation m3. Better handling/ interior/ plus basic mods and it’s a rocket ship that’ll smoke stock hellcats and keep up with modded ones in a straight line. New ones are too fast when modded and they’re just barely unlocking the potential. One shop hit a 9.44 quarter mile and 5.44 60-130 with new m3…that’s fast af with basic mods lol.
Before i watched i already knew the outcome. 800lb weight difference, low end boost helps the bmw and its a dct. Give the charger at least intake, exhaust and a tune and it should win digs and keep up better on a roll.
Facts
Not facts those chargers are slow an heavy that's a 3 series besting the almost top of the line dodge . Common 😆
Slow ? You do know that the m3 is tuned right ? If it were stock to stock the charger would have had him long ⌛
@@stickymess5964 u sound dumb as a sack of rocks....did u not hear,the m3 was tuned...stock for stock the m3 gets beat...
@@freshdc unfortunately not I'm stationed out here in Germany and those F80s will beat a scat pack in stock form and on the Nürburgring where it really counts
Those bmw inline 6 engines really put out some power in the high rev range that's why it catches up so quick
Also helps that it's tuned to 480hp. Otherwise it would never catch up.
@@huevon14200006 you’re dumb, the f80 have 475-480 crank hp stock. They dyno around 420whp stock. On top of weighing 800 pounds less…the charger will never catch up only when m3 having traction issues
@@huevon14200006 it would .
Love the charger just so heavy hard to keep up in the top speed
Why does it seem like the BMW’s launches are very inconsistent? Sometimes it launches and keeps up and sometimes it has to catch up a ton
Scat got shat on
Bad driver Who doesn’t know the car, or the modes. If he put it in sport mode to traction control off, lightly break jacked it and floored it, he would have crushed the dodge off the line.
@@trevorgarrett7602 the guy is right, i have the f80 and it's launch is inconsistent.
Lame BMW
The m3 has so much torque down low and gets traction issues. Hard to launch and do low speed pulls. Need a tire
If that's a stock scat pack why not race it against the BMW 550i it'd be closer in size
You run what you have available to you? Scheduling is often the Achilles heel. Do you know of a 550i that is available for a race and run this one back?
a 550i does 0-60 in 3.6 - 3.8 550i is trackhwk fast
M550i would murder a scat pack lol
Because it wouldn't even be fare for tye scat pack. Even on a bad launch tye scat would get demolished.
Love the vids can you do a charger/challenger vs mustang
I love the sounds the charger is a beautiful car 😍😍😍😍😍
Sam you should do battle of the m4s. F82 m4 coupe vs f83 m4 cabrio to see if there is a difference. Just giving out ideas since no races have been documented on coupe vs cabrio m4s
Yeah that would be interesting to see, I have M4 coupe
You do understand we now have to find out how the Stinger GT fares against the M3, right?
I'm surprised how the 392 was able to get the drop on the M3.
STFU ! really
Yes, I already asked Sam to do that one. I'm all in for it. Lets Arrange the S5, M3 & Any Others Who Want to Join.
@@rpmautoreviews9249 good deal! I'm getting a used GT2 as soon as the market comes back down. And these races are important consumer information.
@@MrGunzngirlz 2 weeks ago i smoked a white 392 with my stinger GT. I don't know if it's the same one but they look the same. The m3 will take a stock stinger.
@@avis1978 easily on a rolling race from any speed no doubt!
Nice! I’ve been wanting to see this matchup! Subscribed
Good races guys.
My M340i stage 2 with just a down pipe leaves Scats all day the B58 is an incredible engine
You can always tell who’s hurt by the results bc they’ll always be like “WeLL MY B58 eATs ScATs aLl dAY!” 😂 no one cares bro I promise we all just watched the same video
@@micahmatthew4645 lmao no one cares about you and your Chevy sonic.
I already knew there’s no way M3 would lose.
I mean it is tuned so...
Even stock it would win that boat 🚤 weights 4300Lbs
@@bman1668 facts
@@nickpappy18 regular 340i could probably be even with 392 anyways lol 😂
@@bman1668 wouldn't even doubt that.
The turbos same to gain boost towards top end.
What type tune was on that car because a stock M3 already makes 480hp, imma assuming it was a tune for faster gear changes.
2016 m3 doesn't make that much. It's a m4 gts tune. Added around 60hp
The Gta atomic Tire letters on the 392.
First person to notice! Do you like it?
Your hair is awesome 👌looks like you stuck you finger in a electrical socket.
Lol
Maybe he combed his hair with a fire cracker 💥
I wanna see more stock vs stock races on the scat so I know what I can beat on the streets 😈
At least one more coming this season, maybe two. :)
Gearing in the charger sure helps up to the 1/8th.
Stinger vs dodge scat pack please
Different story if it was the Hellcat
of course
Depends on if the hellcat hooks up. Seen a few burn through the tires into third gear on a non prepped surface.
If the bmw was stock, yeah. Go see what the modded m4 does to stock cat on sams newer video lol
Why tuned vs stock?
it would be a cool statistic to know in general if a car comes from behind and wins what speed it had to get to in order to pass, if that makes sense. like "the BMW passed the Charger when it reached 80mph"
Would be interesting to see a Dodge Durango SRT vs Ford Explorer ST.
There is a youtube video on that. TFL did this already. The SRT durango walked the ford explorer until the explorer got a 5 star tune on it. But stock vs stock the SRT will destroy an ST.
@@theguy1224 The ST is a joke.
Already been done. I did this last fall. The Durango SRT pulled it hard off a dig and kept that distance all the way down the track. On a roll it was slightly closer and the Explorer ST is no slouch. SRT has the immediate punch off the line with the AWD.
Really..dont want too see that garbage SUV Ford Explorer ST..Ill beat that junk in Suburu WSX
I test drove an m340 they claim 0 to 60 in 4 seconds what V6 could do that? It felt very slow compared to the scat pack I was like where is the power in this thing
Straight 6 😊
@Alex Shafer m 340 can't even get out of its own way it was pathetic a scat pack wouldn't even give it the time of day
@@Building-IT of course it's slow it's only a 3.0 6 clynder
@@amg3078 stock for stock its a good race with a scat pack.
@Alex Shafer m 340 is slow no way you'd buy the m340 after test driving the scat pack I even took it on the highway it was pathetic even the a35 AMG feels faster than the m340 and is more fun to drive the m340 is slow and is way behind in technology compared to the a35 and it has ugly gauges and ugly interior compared to the a35
The price is the key point.. u could buy a 392 of any model, charger challenger durango so on.. and mod to be faster then a stock m3 and still have money left over
If you're talking about Price? rather than preference.
If you've got the bread to buy the better car you're going to want the BMW.
If you don't have the bread, you're going to want the Charger with mods.
and then Preference it just comes down to what you like more.
Idk what you’re smoking but the 392 are slow af. Even fbo e85 they’re still slow. No worth wasting money on mods, better to just get a cat.
I drove my buddies m3 and there is boost lag from a dig. Boost doesnt kick in till 4k
If I had the choice I would pick the charger for the sound. It's a huge weight and gearbox disadvantage for the muscle car in this race.
I'd have to go with the charger too, both have reliability issues, but the charger will be cheaper to fix
@@matthewburkholder1076 dodges have WAY more severe maintenance issues than Ms, especially before 100000 miles
@@nickpappy18 I don't know how much more issues, but way cheaper
@@matthewburkholder1076 WAY more issues. And not really cheaper unless it's dealership vs dealership haha. Parts and labor aren't that expensive if you know your people or know your own car.
@@nickpappy18 I've purchased multiple windshields for a variety of American and japanese cars, all hit around that $200 mark new I helped a guy find a used windshield for his bmw, 5 series I believe it was. A used one was $750
I'm really surprised at the results from the dig race. Unless he's just a really bad driver lol.
He is
That and the f80s are known for traction issues down low cuz the massive amounts of torque that hits hard at low rpm.
I have a 2020 mustang GT 10 speed auto I would love to see you race it. how can I get it to you?
Why wasn’t the charger put in track mode? After all it’s a drag race
They should've switched drivers on the second or third run. I'm convinced the Charger driver is a dud.
chargers just slow
This is literally a car vs SUV in terms of weight
@@kkrieter3355 well technically u can get a hellcat for cheaper than an m3 🤷🏾♂️
Damn you hurt my feeling man.
@@MrM4rvelous nothing to feel bad about brother, ur racing a car 900lb less with the same power as u
If the 392 was tuned that's game over for m3 I have a tune 392 that goes toe-to-toe with Hellcat
Lol
😂😂
YEAH NO. You can't get much extra power tuning a naturally aspirated engine as you can forced induction, not even close. The Hellcat was probably spinning
Tuning plus 315 tires out back and 275 in the front the car flys dont spin at all
@@anthonymeyers3529 the charger in this video wasn't spinning at all either. Did a great job launching and still got walked
When he said come on BMW I was thinking that in my head.
What crappy tune does the M3 have? Mine makes 480 but my torque is 528 these are my dyno numbers. I think that M3 may have 500+ on torque and the number is wrong or it’s a bad tune.
the 900lb weight difference gave the video away at the start lol....its like putting a runner vs an average American
M3 is saying " why must I chase the Scat?" No contest
I don't understand why we're not hearing higher revs. It just seems like we should be hearing 3rd and possibly 4th redline but feel like we're not.
What about track mode?