2023 Nissan Z vs Mustang GT vs Dodge Challenger Scat Pack // DRAG & ROLL RACE

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2022
  • The 2023 Nissan Z ($60,448 starting in Canada, $51,015 in the US), the Ford Mustang GT ($46,860 starting in Canada, $39,440 in the US), and the Dodge Challenger Scatpack 392 ($59,710 starting in Canada, $46,650 in the US) are lined up for a drag race. The new Z has a powerful 400 horsepower engine and is here to represent a long line of classic sports cars out of Japan.
    But how does it fare against some modern American muscle, which is also here to make its own classic heritage proud? The two American muscle cars may have more horsepower than the Z, but they also weigh a considerable amount more. Thomas, James and Karston are ready to put these three to the test on the drag strip. Things don’t always go as expected in a drag race! We hope you enjoy the episode. Thanks for watching! SUBSCRIBE!
    Big thank you to Downsview Place Auto Group for the Mustang: www.dpautogroup.com/
    And another huge thank you to Car Hub North York Chrysler for bringing out the Challenger: www.northyorkchrysler.ca/
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  • @theothernodude3139
    @theothernodude3139 Год назад +3093

    Thomas: “Omg that was a close race”
    James: “Yeah very interesting”
    Guy in the mustang: 🗿

  • @ReygansRides
    @ReygansRides Год назад +2375

    Karston's ultra focus adds 20hp to whatever car he drives. 👍👍

    • @riffle91ar
      @riffle91ar Год назад +106

      Dude can drive that's for sure.

    • @jeremyswalley8625
      @jeremyswalley8625 Год назад +5

      How about torque??

    • @jeremyswalley8625
      @jeremyswalley8625 Год назад +2

      Lol

    • @jeremyswalley8625
      @jeremyswalley8625 Год назад +33

      He also isn’t hosting a video so he gets to purely focus and not worry about saying a word!!

    • @jojodivas9211
      @jojodivas9211 Год назад +4

      It’s the first time I’ve seen Karston That focused as well

  • @winner888
    @winner888 Год назад +315

    Can't beat the sound of those V-8's

    • @Pat8700
      @Pat8700 Год назад +16

      The scat sounded good then it switched to the stang at high rpm, 😩sounds amazing

    • @kevinc4325
      @kevinc4325 Год назад +5

      Yeah I can. My v10 M6

    • @Murphys_Law9
      @Murphys_Law9 Год назад +3

      V12s sound better

    • @TalkingHands308
      @TalkingHands308 Год назад +8

      FR, my speakers weren't turned up, I didn't know that Z was running when they were revving the cars, lol.

    • @MPG-xw8op
      @MPG-xw8op 5 месяцев назад +1

      Z is v6

  • @nielsenrivera457
    @nielsenrivera457 Год назад +977

    The Mustang GT is simply amazing holy cow what a sound!

    • @ALana-wy5ql
      @ALana-wy5ql Год назад +5

      Custom exhaust

    • @maxschmittle9642
      @maxschmittle9642 Год назад +149

      @@ALana-wy5ql its stock active exhaust

    • @lipsxleo6638
      @lipsxleo6638 Год назад +142

      @@ALana-wy5ql i have a 16 GT and it sounds almost the same lmao thats a stock exhaust yall hate to hate lmaoooo

    • @Marie00178
      @Marie00178 Год назад +39

      My brother has one and honestly it sound so badass for being stock he says he wouldn’t change it

    • @lipsxleo6638
      @lipsxleo6638 Год назад +10

      @@Marie00178 honestly same i dont want to make it obnoxiously loud or take away from the stock rumble

  • @Terrencetulani
    @Terrencetulani Год назад +2047

    Every time a guy says his name is Thomas I’m compelled to say mine is James

    • @ericbuckz8100
      @ericbuckz8100 Год назад +8

      😂😂😂

    • @angeloah
      @angeloah Год назад +29

      That’s funny every time I hear, I’m Thomas, and I’m James I think why haven’t they done a Thomas the tank engine bit yet….to on the head? Hmmm

    • @JAMES-bu1lv
      @JAMES-bu1lv Год назад +3

      Same here mah boy

    • @johnonthedoe4877
      @johnonthedoe4877 Год назад +9

      Hi guys I'm Shmee 😉👍🏼

    • @harisjaved1379
      @harisjaved1379 Год назад +1

      Yup!

  • @markbade565
    @markbade565 Год назад +733

    The drag race i totally expected. But the rolling race surprised me

    • @angeloguzman189
      @angeloguzman189 Год назад +27

      i was sitting here thinking thomas is about to walk these dudes, boy have i ever been so wrong in my life

    • @BigHeadClan
      @BigHeadClan Год назад +25

      About what I expected the stock tires on the Z are pretty underwhelming.
      But in terms of power to weight they are right there with each other.

    • @OriginalCovfefe
      @OriginalCovfefe Год назад +13

      Considering the Z has a twin-turbo set up, i wasnt surprised on the roll

    • @Toymonkeyjr
      @Toymonkeyjr Год назад +18

      I wasn't. Mustang is the pwr/weight ratio champ and has better power delivery. The Challenger is a pushrod engine so up-high it doesn't make as much power. The twin turbo setup would have the advantage initially because of near instantaneous torque, but eventually be beat by the mustangs top-end.

    • @clarks2001
      @clarks2001 Год назад +11

      I feel he was kinda slow on the no lift shift in the Z. Maybe it just had long throws? 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Daniel-oy4gu
    @Daniel-oy4gu Год назад +264

    I'm convinced after watching a bunch of your videos that Karston is just the best racer of the group no matter what u put him in he goes hard

    • @LionAndALamb
      @LionAndALamb Год назад +17

      That was my takeaway as well. Just smoother and quicker on the shifts.

    • @tylergray2906
      @tylergray2906 Год назад +9

      I love this channel, but I really wish we could get the drivers to go a round in each car to take out driver bias

  • @JakehubJ
    @JakehubJ Год назад +16

    I have a 392 but not gonna lie those 5.0 always sound nice, light car combined with snappy powerful v8

  • @joelpeterson2074
    @joelpeterson2074 Год назад +972

    The Mustang won for me as soon as they did the revving at the start. And then it won the actual racing part. I think the Z is a tourer, and that’s about it. It does look really cool.

    • @Mis73rRand0m
      @Mis73rRand0m Год назад +32

      The Z strikes me as a car that was produced in order to have all the performance parts from the last generation swapped on. I mean, it's kind of in the talking points from Nissan that it's built on the old chassis.

    • @bismarkT
      @bismarkT Год назад +26

      Mustang is Grand Tourer. The Z has bad gearing for drag racing and needs better tires

    • @joelpeterson2074
      @joelpeterson2074 Год назад +6

      @@Mis73rRand0m yeah, that’s a good point. I would call that a mistake but the aftermarket is probably pretty happy.

    • @joelpeterson2074
      @joelpeterson2074 Год назад +19

      @@bismarkT I think it’s fair to call the Mustang a tourer as well, though the performance pack makes it pretty capable on track as well.

    • @slowspecv69
      @slowspecv69 Год назад +11

      @@joelpeterson2074 nah man the challenger is with all that space and amazing magnetic ride

  • @kuplayford1203
    @kuplayford1203 Год назад +358

    Damn the sound of that Mustang is SWEET 👌

    • @richardnavratil9661
      @richardnavratil9661 Год назад +8

      I have a 2019 Bullitt, it has tad differently tuned exhaust for even more rumble and I can tell you that when I was on the fence about buying it, hearing the exhaust is what made me pull the trigger!

    • @roostafish961
      @roostafish961 Год назад +9

      Agreed. I think it might be the best sounding car ever made. This from a guy who has a c7 ZO6.

    • @watchandjewelryloft4713
      @watchandjewelryloft4713 Год назад

      They sound like garbage to me.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Год назад

      @@roostafish961 who? Seems odd for me.

    • @colinwood8812
      @colinwood8812 Год назад

      @@richardnavratil9661 I have an 08 Bullitt and people are shocked when I tell them the exhaust is stock.

  • @jessegarduque6442
    @jessegarduque6442 Год назад +57

    The race went exactly how i pictured it😂 everyone knows a stock scat pack looses to a stock 5.0😂

    • @DaniboTheReckless
      @DaniboTheReckless Год назад +9

      Mopar or no car😂

    • @landonpoindexter114
      @landonpoindexter114 9 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/user/shortsaDXzA4_0HmE?feature=share

    • @crazypkm
      @crazypkm 9 месяцев назад +10

      Ford literally waits for dodge to roll their car out, buys the dodge, and builds their car around it to be faster.

    • @brandonshirey400
      @brandonshirey400 8 месяцев назад +17

      Mustangs are for women and men who sit down to urinate.

    • @ZayNeedsSpeed
      @ZayNeedsSpeed 8 месяцев назад

      only 10 speeds so if it ain a s5 just leave

  • @Gen-Blaze
    @Gen-Blaze Год назад +20

    Impressive Mustang Gt! That engine roar is Music to The hears too🤙🏽

  • @QueTheChaotic
    @QueTheChaotic Год назад +1075

    Great races. I would love to see the Camaro and Supra thrown in.

    • @AdolfTrudeau
      @AdolfTrudeau Год назад +109

      True would of rather a camaro than a challenger

    • @wykydytron
      @wykydytron Год назад +59

      Camaro would won by small margin with mustang, supra would by last by far.

    • @4JaayTv
      @4JaayTv Год назад +69

      SS doesn’t beat the GT

    • @SlickSniper3
      @SlickSniper3 Год назад +83

      @@wykydytron wrong. Supra matches a Mach 1 lmao.

    • @99-Zulu
      @99-Zulu Год назад +25

      @@4JaayTv
      It's dependant on surface. A lot of the time the Camaro does better on unprepped surfaces. Not all the time, but most of the time, it tends to have better launches on Throttle House's surface. Granted all the time on prepped surfaces the Mustang will always pull on the Camaro.

  • @trillnix3043
    @trillnix3043 Год назад +733

    Man. The Mustang has to be one of the most consistent best sounding V8s around in my opinion. Ever since the fox body I’ve fell in love with themC firstly because of the sound. That 5.0 sounds amazing. But even the 4.6 new edge stangs sound awesome.

    • @hawkshadowoseanacy5171
      @hawkshadowoseanacy5171 Год назад +31

      Did the Z make any sound outside? Even the 6 cylinder mustang sound better than most cars.

    • @genxgamerdad141
      @genxgamerdad141 Год назад +37

      As a Chevy guy at heart, I agree 100%.

    • @CockatooDude
      @CockatooDude Год назад +5

      @@hawkshadowoseanacy5171 The Z was designed to conform to EU noise regulations as well I believe, where the car has to be driven flat out (on the accelerator pedal) at a certain speed past a microphone where they measure the noise level. I think that speed is like 60 or so mph, and with a manual they generally put it into second gear when they drive past the microphone. With an Auto they just leave the car in whatever mode it came to them in, so the manufacturer can tune the car to just short shift in comfort mode or whatnot. The result is that either manual cars have super long gears so their revs will be lower when the microphone is driven by, or that they space the gear ratios properly but instead have to put on an exhaust that makes it sound like nothing. This doesn't affect the Mustang and Dodge cars because they don't sell them in the EU anymore (or at all in Dodge's case).

    • @S8ER
      @S8ER Год назад +26

      Fbody owner (RIP FBODY 2002) I agree 100%. As I age I realize I was the stupid one for caring about how fast my LS1 was when the 4.6L guys got to ride around with the windows down listening to a damn symphony.

    • @guzzisan21
      @guzzisan21 Год назад +32

      I actually think the 4.6 sounds better, but of course 5.0 blows it out the water performance wise

  • @matthewhartup941
    @matthewhartup941 Год назад +31

    Gotta love the mustang, it's an excellent value all around. I have a 20 GT 460 hp 420 tq, performance pack, 10 speed auto.. off road H-pipe and otherwise stock. She's pretty quick and loads of fun to drive. It's handling is under rated.

  • @evanhovis9126
    @evanhovis9126 Год назад +13

    That 5.0 is the freaking best. Love mine in my f150. Sadly im trading it for a f250 though... I need a heavier truck

  • @wesleywalls7582
    @wesleywalls7582 Год назад +66

    “…and there is a Z in this race, and I’m not sure why.” - Thomas 😂

  • @freddywayne
    @freddywayne Год назад +145

    That Mustang GT's exhaust notes 🎶🎵 are the most beautiful sounds I've ever heard! 💕🥰😘

    • @calvin-
      @calvin- Год назад +6

      I'm a GM guy and I think so too. Lol.

    • @Bvsterrrrrrrrr
      @Bvsterrrrrrrrr Год назад

      LEXUS LFA

    • @TalkingHands308
      @TalkingHands308 Год назад +1

      If you like that, go watch some videos of GT40s, their sound is out of this world...

    • @TalkingHands308
      @TalkingHands308 Год назад +2

      @@Bvsterrrrrrrrr Meh, honestly never a fan of those high screeching car sounds. I know it's personal preference, but like the low rumble of a V8 is like a lion roaring and the high screeching sound of the V10s and above are like goats screaming...

    • @KubanKevin
      @KubanKevin 9 месяцев назад +2

      its all personal preference. for me the 5.0 is at the lower end of the V8 tier list. 4.9 "5.0" sounded far better

  • @thullraven1
    @thullraven1 Год назад +51

    Every time I raced a Scat, that's how it went down. The Scat has awesome low end torque, but I always caught and passed them.

    • @crucfx.
      @crucfx. Год назад +6

      Makes me even more excited about the new upcoming 2024 s650 with 486 hp

    • @thullraven1
      @thullraven1 Год назад +6

      @@crucfx. Yeah, but I'm not excited about what the prices will be. It doesn't matter for me personally. My 2018 6 Speed Manual GT is slightly modded and makes about 500 hp and is paid off. I'm too old to go into debt for a car so I'm keeping what I have until it drops or I do. 😁

    • @_carfreak_2812
      @_carfreak_2812 Год назад +24

      @@thullraven1 I still love my Challenger Scat pack widebody. It just looks so mean and sounds so evil. I love the looks of it and I personally don’t care if an Mustang GT is faster. I would never ever give my Challenger away for an Mustang. The Mustang is faster but the Challenger is cooler.

    • @thullraven1
      @thullraven1 Год назад +15

      @@_carfreak_2812 I can't and won't argue with you. The Challenger, no matter what level, is one of the coolest looking cars on the road. I love how my Mustang looks, but the old school looks of Challengers rock. It's a travesty that Dodge is doing away with them.

    • @_carfreak_2812
      @_carfreak_2812 Год назад +7

      @@thullraven1 Hey, I don’t want to argue 😂 Iam saying myself that an Mustang GT is faster. But you are right, it’s a shame that the end of the Challenger as we know it has come. Have fun with your Mustang, that 5.0 Liter V8 is an awesome engine. 😁

  • @celebritywatch386
    @celebritywatch386 Год назад +46

    2nd gear shift in the Z was terrible lol might be the lowest shift I've ever seen.

  • @eclipsethesun251
    @eclipsethesun251 Год назад +309

    This video has only increased my already insane desire for a mustang gt, particularly that wonderful 5.0

    • @cory2logical144
      @cory2logical144 Год назад +1

      Omg tell me about it!

    • @5point0h67
      @5point0h67 Год назад +4

      Do it!!!

    • @eclipsethesun251
      @eclipsethesun251 Год назад

      @@5point0h67 lol I don’t have the $20k plus to get a 2011+
      Thought about a pushrod 5.0 instead, but I kind of need it to be my daily as well. And with a manual, the prices just go up

    • @5point0h67
      @5point0h67 Год назад +16

      @@eclipsethesun251 I’m 29 and this 5.0 I have is the first v8 mustang I’ve ever had. I had a 2004 v6 mustang and a 2014 v6 mustang.. had to grind hard to finally get my 5.0 and you will too!

    • @JLRide
      @JLRide Год назад +6

      You better buy one before they stop making that glorious V8

  • @ewanstewart8011
    @ewanstewart8011 Год назад +78

    That Mustang is something else and it sounds fantastic 👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @vkheartbraekfinn9455
    @vkheartbraekfinn9455 Год назад +134

    yet mopar boys will still argue that snack packs are faster than a new gen 5.0

    • @thullraven1
      @thullraven1 Год назад +35

      I've beaten EVERY Scat I raced, and it wasn't close.

    • @ismaelcortez4935
      @ismaelcortez4935 Год назад +5

      Way faster

    • @fredwilliams7893
      @fredwilliams7893 Год назад

      Lmao you all just watched a video of the truth yet claim 5.0 waaayy faster, STFU barely beat a scat! SMH

    • @thullraven1
      @thullraven1 Год назад

      @@fredwilliams7893 As the distance increases the GT is quite a bit faster and will pull ahead of the Scat EVERY time. I know from personal experience and any experienced car guy will say the same thing. Oh, by the way, barely beat is still BEAT. LMAO at your dumbsh*t comment. Go start a fight somewhere else, you 🤡.

    • @fredwilliams7893
      @fredwilliams7893 Год назад +1

      @@thullraven1 you probably drive a automatic! Beta boy

  • @ronyeahright9536
    @ronyeahright9536 Год назад +2

    I love it. Guy in the scat pack..." what? what??".....and listen to that coyote absolutely howl.

  • @albertr7407
    @albertr7407 Год назад +398

    I have a scat pack and the main reason I got it over the others was purely the look, I mean it’s the closest to the original that it can be but yea the weight and just the platform/formula of the Challenger/charger is just old news but hey i still love my challenger very much

    • @xxxxxtrxxx13
      @xxxxxtrxxx13 Год назад +47

      I am still dreaming a black 392 widebody with the Shaker package, congrats on your beauty, take good care of her

    • @mikehughes8023
      @mikehughes8023 Год назад +23

      Love my 17 Coyote but them Hemi exhausts always turn heads!👍🏿

    • @Mustgtcs07
      @Mustgtcs07 Год назад +14

      The Challenger is really a NICE looking car. I really thought about it, and drive it, over getting my 19 Mustang.

    • @Bizzair1990
      @Bizzair1990 Год назад +33

      The 392 is no slouch with some drag radials.. Ive got a 12.2 on that track. Plenty of mustangs cant get that, the 5.0 was irrelevant until 2018 (stock for stock). That mustang is also a pp1 - with 3.73 gears. Id take the Scat anyday. Every dickhead driving around has a mustang. Go around the block theres like 15 of them within 10km radius lol. That 5.0s positive point is in the top end so. Plus the 392 in standard is no good - have to have to 8 speed auto to utilize its massive torque.

    • @Juans197
      @Juans197 Год назад +53

      @@Bizzair1990 I stay in Atlanta and the 392 is definitely way more common than a 5.0. For every 20 cars I see, there’s AT LEAST 8 challengers/chargers in that mix. When they see me in my 5.0 they always try to rev or peel off fast like jackasses and damn near cause an accident. Much more of a jackass car if you ask me. The sound is definitely great, but I dust them almost every time

  • @Zanthin8
    @Zanthin8 Год назад +174

    Proud coyote owner watching this, worth pointing out it’s a pp1 mustang so it has the 3.73 rear end gear that helps with acceleration over a regular GT, and wider tires. Shoutout to Carsten(spelling?) for nailing the 2-3 shift on the awful mt82. If that z is still on the Bridgestones I’d imagine that has a lot to do with its handling woes. I want to see how they perform with some light mods… tires, tune, and some springs should really wake it up. Had a q60 (see profile pic) before my stang and with some Michelins and a tune it was a rocket ship

    • @cosmic_gate476
      @cosmic_gate476 Год назад +3

      Yeah the Z's performance faults are annoying but nothing that would need tons of money to change

    • @Zanthin8
      @Zanthin8 Год назад

      @@cosmic_gate476 hopefully, I’m concerned about the steering being numb. Thomas and James really didn’t like it in their review, and my q60 had the same problem…just no feedback from the front wheels, gives you no confidence in the corners. Still want to drive one myself though, once they hit the used market

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 Год назад +10

      The whole Nissan Bridgestone "Partnership" is garbage. I had those stupid bridgestoners on my Z for a grand total of: 6000 miles. I'm actually convinced that bald tires on a PRIUS handle better than those POS tires. I have owned a ton of cheap cars with cheap tires. I can only imagine the number of people first in line for the new Z that are going to end up with an unpleasant phone call and one big insurance claim when the thing is totalled. Those Bridgestone tires are a recipe for disaster. Nissan "should" have simply offered the OPTION for a PS4S rather than this terribly negotiated mindless contract with Bridgestone. FFS, maybe "offer" the option for the better bridgestones?

    • @cosmic_gate476
      @cosmic_gate476 Год назад +3

      @@07wrxtr1 lol I'm one of those guys in line for the Z and it looks like by the time it arrives I'll be using winter tires and rims off the bat. I'll keep the Bridgestones as an extra set to practice tire shredding in the summer 😂

    • @solocamo3654
      @solocamo3654 Год назад +1

      @@Zanthin8 This is exactly why I went for a G37 over a Q50. Didn't like the steering feel on the new models since they went electric.

  • @aleksei8884
    @aleksei8884 Год назад +4

    How is this the first time ever I’m hearing about a no lift shift? Had no idea that was a thing, sounds awesome

  • @GreenMan-em2jd
    @GreenMan-em2jd Год назад +8

    That was so cool being able to watch a Z capture the race between a mustang and a challenger! 😂

  • @avatahr7547
    @avatahr7547 Год назад +62

    For what it's worth- I, a random guy on RUclips, truly believe that you two were put on this Earth to do exactly what you're doing now. Automotive journalism and reviews. Your chemistry is fantastic. You're both humorous and charismatic. I genuinely enjoy watching all of your videos, regardless of topic. Thank you. -Jake

  • @doublewheels
    @doublewheels Год назад +10

    Watching this all the way from Namibia 🇳🇦 (Africa)

  • @frankbjr1250
    @frankbjr1250 Год назад +4

    3rd gear on the pp1 GT is so good, it just finds its legs. All great cars.

  • @ErnestMarvinEsteban
    @ErnestMarvinEsteban 6 месяцев назад

    Got a 22 GT weeks ago and I’m just so happy with how it sound stock and the performance is really satisfying😊😊

  • @Shoey2949
    @Shoey2949 Год назад +138

    Just wanna say you guys have been the go to for car reviews on RUclips for me ever since the LFA video. Absolutely sold you guys on me. Just wanted to show the love and keep up the awesome work!!

    • @fud1376
      @fud1376 Год назад +3

      I was just about to write the same sort of comment...Ha !!

    • @TheThegreenpi
      @TheThegreenpi Год назад +1

      Fr the other channel just reviews the sun shade LMAO

    • @TenToesUp450
      @TenToesUp450 Год назад +1

      These two are pretty hilarious.

  • @coolman4202
    @coolman4202 Год назад +158

    This has been the most interesting and close drag and roll race you've done, superb pairings! The mustang also sounds amazing dayum.

  • @nb5247
    @nb5247 6 месяцев назад +2

    The 5.0 has the best sound ever

    • @speeddemon311
      @speeddemon311 2 месяца назад

      Not even close lol! V10 Lambo for starters 😅

  • @justing888
    @justing888 Год назад +5

    Z's driver was the biggest takeaway for me. Great video as always 👌🏾

  • @MatthewGaither
    @MatthewGaither Год назад +114

    Mustang price to performance ratio is very good!

    • @cosmic_gate476
      @cosmic_gate476 Год назад +8

      If you can get past the rental car interior. For everyone else, there's the GT Premium.

    • @al151
      @al151 Год назад +4

      You need to see a camaro ss 1le! Best in everything compared to a mustang and cheaper too for its performance point. I owned a 15 gtpp and now own a 22 2ss 1le manual. 1le all day every day!

    • @munkysex00
      @munkysex00 Год назад +13

      @@al151 the Camaro interior is shit, just like most gm interiors.

    • @al151
      @al151 Год назад +4

      @@munkysex00 nope i owned both so i can tell you that Mustang interior had so many rattles that i removed and insulated the dashboard maybe 4 times. Knock on wood my camaro has no issues so far. The heads up display alone is worth it especially on the 1le.

    • @oemj7147
      @oemj7147 Год назад +6

      @@al151 Sounds like your Mustang was a lemon. My 15 GT pp was tight as a drum when I sold it with 60K miles on it. I'm not a fan of the Camaro interior but the SS 1LE is most likely going to be my next car. It is very good car though it doesn't sound quite as good as the Mustang. Main attraction for me in the Camaro is the manual transmission which is superior to the MT82 in the Mustang.

  • @willdembik688
    @willdembik688 Год назад +80

    God, the exhaust tone of a good ol fashioned naturally aspirated American V8.. Schwing :)

    • @BigHeadClan
      @BigHeadClan Год назад

      Yeah hard to argue with a v8 sound track, Nissan sadly chose to not include a louder exhaust out of the box.

    • @richardnavratil9661
      @richardnavratil9661 Год назад

      I have a 2019 Bullitt, it has tad differently tuned exhaust for even more rumble and I can tell you that when I was on the fence about buying it, hearing the exhaust is what made me pull the trigger!

    • @willdembik688
      @willdembik688 Год назад

      @Rawkfist1501 Shouldve replied, Naturally aspirated V8 in general. My Tundra rumbles just as nice 😉. That "Z" would definitely be my 3rd choice out of them.

    • @horvathr95
      @horvathr95 Год назад +1

      @@willdembik688 An old fashioned american v8 to me means pushrods, and a big cam. I am not going to say the mustang sounds bad, its just not a traditional american v8 sound

    • @willdembik688
      @willdembik688 Год назад

      @@horvathr95 very true.. someone give these fellas a 70 Chevelle SS454 to play with for the day :)

  • @cjwall2
    @cjwall2 Год назад +170

    I think the Z will be a monster once tuners get ahold of them

    • @jacksnackson3578
      @jacksnackson3578 Год назад +37

      Will still be slower than the BMW Zupra

    • @cosmic_gate476
      @cosmic_gate476 Год назад +3

      ​@@jacksnackson3578 True, but most Zupras won't be pushed to their potential so a well-tuned Z can beat many of them. It's way easier to make a car faster than it is to make it look better, in my opinion. For me the Z is too damn pretty and I like the interior more even though it's cheaper, it just looks more interesting with the colors - plus it's more roomy and more visible in the cabin, I'm gonna daily my Z and so that does kinda matter lol

    • @epicgamer334
      @epicgamer334 Год назад +1

      It’s pretty much a VQ50 or 60

    • @jacksnackson3578
      @jacksnackson3578 Год назад +11

      @@cosmic_gate476 FALSE. Nissan failed the people. Zurpra is a better chassis and better motor. The Nissan 380 Z in new skin is a flop.

    • @cosmic_gate476
      @cosmic_gate476 Год назад +32

      @@jacksnackson3578 You sound like those kids who think every supra has 1000hp lol vr30 can push 550 wheel with stock turbos and that's more than enough to beat the average Zupra driver. I like the Zupra btw not hating like you

  • @florinvid
    @florinvid Год назад +3

    Loved the fact that the camera guy got you 🤣🤣. I was betting on the higher horsepower, but what do you know? Stang all the way!

  • @DillandShaj
    @DillandShaj Год назад +41

    You guys are such a good group of guys. It honestly brings back the good Top Gear vibe for me. I've been watching you guys for a while and you guys always pump out amazing content! Great job as always guys!

  • @richardnavratil9661
    @richardnavratil9661 Год назад +305

    As an owner of S550 Mustang (Bullitt), they got so much right with this gen. Hopefully the 7th gen fills the big shoes 6th leaves behind

    • @anthony91688
      @anthony91688 Год назад +19

      (Edited)
      So true. I test drove a 2019 Bullitt last year and it was so much fun to drive. Sounded amazing and had the recaro racing seats they were super grippy. Still want one but they are selling too high around me at around $50,000-$55,000 so after my GTO sells hopefully this month I’ll be ordering a new mustang from ford. For the build I want it’s coming out to $43,000 straight from the factory. Can’t wait. Congrats on the Bullitt those are nice

    • @opj5791
      @opj5791 Год назад +6

      Completely agree with you. I personally think its the best Mustang that Ford has ever produced. I even special ordered one to get it the way I wanted.

    • @CM-maga
      @CM-maga Год назад +2

      Love my 2019 performance pack race red GT headers active exhaust 93 Lund tune. Fun car

    • @corvetteZ3r
      @corvetteZ3r Год назад +1

      I drove a bullet, was fun to drive, but I saw stock scatpack taillights, and he pulled hard

    • @corvetteZ3r
      @corvetteZ3r Год назад

      @@crashnabors009 it’s not driver mod. Watch my videos. We did a roll and surprisingly the scat left it behind. Also it wasn’t my car so I didn’t shift it like I do my corvettes but I didn’t granny shift either

  • @metrosavvy6816
    @metrosavvy6816 Год назад +5

    Shout out to Karston in the mustang he really knows what he’s doing, and gives me Han vibes from fast and furious

  • @j0nb0y5
    @j0nb0y5 14 дней назад +1

    If you’re not first, you’re last.
    -Ricky Bobby

  • @AutoNorth
    @AutoNorth Год назад +70

    When you consider the price the Mustang is a no brainer in this comparison.

    • @enacku
      @enacku Год назад +8

      shhhhh, don't tell Ford that they'll raise the price $7,500 like they just did half their vehicles

    • @zdendas13
      @zdendas13 Год назад +2

      @@enacku Then It would be around the price of the Scat, so still a no brainer for me

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 Год назад

      @Paul Eww no. I’d honestly rather have the GR86 over the BMW Supra

  • @montestu5502
    @montestu5502 Год назад +11

    No lift shifting “should give me a leg up”. LOL!

  • @L.G.productions
    @L.G.productions Год назад +5

    Can I make a suggestion? I think it would be most beneficial to run these cars with the automatic transmissions. Yes I know you guys can obviously drive very well but I think automatic really just puts out the most for what the brand has to say in terms of racing. As everyone says, you can’t out shift a computer.

  • @purwantiallan5089
    @purwantiallan5089 Год назад

    Well.... Excellent drag race, Throttle House!

  • @FullTimeGT
    @FullTimeGT Год назад +166

    I'm maybe biased but those Mustangs are really really fast out of the box for the price and plenty of potentials. Really a good canvas and plenty of aftermarket parts at reasonable price for either convert it to a drag race monster, a track monster or a drift monster, only choose which path you wanna go. Great video!

    • @faux3250
      @faux3250 Год назад +36

      I'm a Mopar guy but the Mustang is no joke, seriously great car.

    • @beliveau4943
      @beliveau4943 Год назад +19

      I love dodge but I've been saying that since the 460 hp mustangs cane out the scatpack just barely loses they're very quick even more so with the 10 speeds

    • @tyler9703
      @tyler9703 Год назад +30

      That mustang is seriously becoming a dream car of mine. The sound of that Coyote V8 is intoxicating

    • @IWLGaming
      @IWLGaming Год назад +32

      base GT mustang and LT1 Camaro are just INSANE value cars. Nothing else even comes close for the price.

    • @vettesweetnos
      @vettesweetnos Год назад +10

      Mopar sell more currently but 23 is the last year for hemis and all the mopar guys will be switching to mustangs after 23. I may add a gt500 to my redeye and C8 Z06 will be here by spring. They can keep their ev stuff. You can't beat a GT for value and modding

  • @MandMBass
    @MandMBass Год назад +52

    That Mustang just sounds SO good!

  • @RK-db4oq
    @RK-db4oq Год назад

    Love the addition of Karsten--the perfect silent foil.

  • @Unknown-pl1eu
    @Unknown-pl1eu Год назад +1

    This is why I bought a mustang when all my friends are like "get a dodge"... you mean a boat? Lol

  • @SkraightSix
    @SkraightSix Год назад +24

    I feel like a lot of the audience is looking at this price point for their next car, love the relatable content. Genuinely helping me and I’m sure many others make an informed decision on which cars to look at! Would love to see more competition against this thing if y’all can get ahold of it again!

  • @MuscleTile
    @MuscleTile Год назад +11

    I love how you guys do both drag and roll racing. These videos are my favorite...keep them coming!

  • @deanthonymims3095
    @deanthonymims3095 Год назад

    Thomas is like What!! What!!! What!! On a roll ☠️😂☠️😂

  • @xanderkresh8962
    @xanderkresh8962 Год назад +1

    Karston's shifting is on point.

  • @GT_FREAK
    @GT_FREAK Год назад +100

    Always impressed by the performance of the mustang, its one of my favorite cars. Its just too bad its almost impossible to import into my country.

    • @The_Draque
      @The_Draque Год назад +1

      and it looks like a euro womans car

    • @Ryan.C97998
      @Ryan.C97998 Год назад +51

      @@The_Draque What even in the world are you talking about???

    • @carlosgomez_c137
      @carlosgomez_c137 Год назад

      Even if you could import it, export plus import taxes makes you desist on it.

    • @CrashRacknShoot
      @CrashRacknShoot Год назад +5

      @@The_Draque still sad the challenger lost?

    • @The_Draque
      @The_Draque Год назад

      @@CrashRacknShoot a stock scat is faster than a stock GT lol.

  • @carculturenation2166
    @carculturenation2166 Год назад +8

    11k cheaper and capable of up to 1200whp and 7 in the 1/4 mile with just boost and fuel. No heads no cams no pistons no rods no opening the engine unless you want to go built motor which then mustang gt can make 2000hp on stock factory block. Honestly mustang gt makes hellcats look slow with just bolt oms everyday at the track.

  • @DominicAvery272
    @DominicAvery272 Год назад

    as a 2018 mustang GT owner this video makes me happy

  • @GenSparks
    @GenSparks Год назад

    Love my 22 mustang gt PP those things are amazing.

  • @carlbenjiphotography6651
    @carlbenjiphotography6651 Год назад +72

    Lesson of the day: Go get a Mustang GT!!! 😅

    • @matthijshoijtink2424
      @matthijshoijtink2424 Год назад +5

      Lesson of the day, it all comes down to the driver..

    • @aaronwarren8389
      @aaronwarren8389 Год назад +10

      The driver in The challenger sucks at driving. I've raced mustang's in my challenger rt stock and I got the same results. The scat pack should've done better

    • @Jay-yg8jj
      @Jay-yg8jj Год назад +2

      @@aaronwarren8389 Right, only hosts his own channel about cars and races professionally but he can't drive a stock challenger lmao
      You apparently didn't race someone with driver mod.

    • @jrrogersstang4696
      @jrrogersstang4696 Год назад +11

      Mustang 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👍🏿

    • @Marie00178
      @Marie00178 Год назад +6

      @@aaronwarren8389 the Mustang is still going to win regardless their less heavier than the Mopars coming from who owns a Scat

  • @thomasferrarojr.9772
    @thomasferrarojr.9772 Год назад +8

    I love how James said "Poo" Pack. Lmao 🤣

  • @lucp.6583
    @lucp.6583 Год назад

    Thomas saying “what?!” is so funny

  • @foxbat2581
    @foxbat2581 Год назад +1

    I was lucky enough to find a 2019 Mustang pp1 6 speed with 1300 miles, I couldn't pass it up and I'm almost through the first fill up the dealer gave me.....ya, not my Sonara in the fuel dept. But oh so much more fun to drive!!

  • @yaniayache5132
    @yaniayache5132 Год назад +113

    Man the Mustang is such a good car I love it

    • @Schinzo__
      @Schinzo__ Год назад +2

      Especially that drive bro a W

    • @jeremyswalley8625
      @jeremyswalley8625 Год назад +5

      No joke there mine makes me smile every time I drive it!! She growls like a dragon!!

    • @dany5019
      @dany5019 Год назад

      Until you crash into a crowed

  • @NardoGreyRam
    @NardoGreyRam Год назад +62

    Well, I am a Dodge fan and i can sure agree that the mustang is faster, it is lighter and the coyote engine is really good
    But still the challenger looks amazing, it has the real muscle car look
    Its a war between 2 brands that we fans are benifiting from, its bringing the best out of both and with time it will get better 👍

    • @johnnykilroy9399
      @johnnykilroy9399 Год назад +5

      8 speed vs 8 speed the 392 wins the manual 392s are wayyyy too slow they do like 12.7 1/4. Meanwhile my scat did 12.2 @ 117

    • @vincealince_SRT
      @vincealince_SRT Год назад +13

      It’s actually torturous to watch these guys not down shift the Scat at roll.

    • @packtrail1535
      @packtrail1535 Год назад

      @@vincealince_SRT I don’t think any of them down shifted? I could be wrong.

    • @vincealince_SRT
      @vincealince_SRT Год назад

      @@packtrail1535 you’re probably right, only reason I point out for the fatass Challenger that’s already at a weight disadvantage. Ultimately, I would have bet on Mustang in both runs on street, the platform is just too good all around.

    • @irondino247
      @irondino247 Год назад +4

      Well until 2024, then we’re losing the challenger, charger and Camaro but man it’s been an amazing decade for muscle cars

  • @MrNiignastii
    @MrNiignastii Год назад +35

    I would be interested to see how the Z would perform with someone who shift's gear with some enthusiasm

    • @nizzan91
      @nizzan91 9 месяцев назад

      He shifts like a learner for sure

    • @kills456
      @kills456 8 месяцев назад

      The same

  • @wilnielsantiago8693
    @wilnielsantiago8693 Год назад

    “Im not far behind” *gets gap by a bus*😂

  • @carterarthur9963
    @carterarthur9963 Год назад +4

    Love your videos

  • @bagfulawful542
    @bagfulawful542 Год назад +6

    Love the content

  • @Aj-yw8zb
    @Aj-yw8zb Год назад

    Awesome mustang guy - proud of you

  • @prskyviews
    @prskyviews Год назад +2

    the sound of the stang took it 🏆

  • @mosesolatubosun5445
    @mosesolatubosun5445 Год назад +12

    In as much as I love to watch your show regularly, I have said this before. You should always give your viewers the benefits of a doubt by allowing each and every driver race different cars especially when drag racing in manual gears. This would allow the viewers to objectively decide what car is fastest because driving experiences and competence matters.

  • @MrGhost-jz7yn
    @MrGhost-jz7yn Год назад +34

    Well I guess the mustang and challenger debate is finally over about which one is faster

    • @voodoodiecast
      @voodoodiecast Год назад +8

      Only delusional mopar fans say otherwise. Despite losing 10hp that scatcrap was choking the coyote’s dust. I was even skeptical because of the MT82 6 spd garbage manual. The 10spd vs 8spd is the more interesting battle.

    • @Chris-hw4mq
      @Chris-hw4mq Год назад

      @@voodoodiecast dont the new gts have a tremec ?

    • @speedtab215
      @speedtab215 Год назад

      This has been the result for the past 4 years between them though

    • @keithmaurer8147
      @keithmaurer8147 Год назад

      @@voodoodiecast only the Mach 1's have the tremec; the regular 5.0 still has the same manual it's always had.

    • @fatbastard2565
      @fatbastard2565 Год назад +2

      @@voodoodiecast fr and the mustang sounds better+handles better, so the only reason someone would be one would be the looks?

  • @alexcreel7949
    @alexcreel7949 Год назад

    I'm not far behind!! Golden

  • @hotsky83
    @hotsky83 Год назад

    Thomas's reactions were priceless

  • @DRWP10
    @DRWP10 Год назад +96

    As a Dodge fan. I gotta say the gt exhaust sounds very good. May have to pick up one in the future

    • @snapp6686
      @snapp6686 Год назад +4

      Meh, if you think the mustang sounds good, get a Chevy lol. I’ve had a few mustangs and the LS always sounds better than a 5.0 imo.

    • @soontaru
      @soontaru Год назад +22

      As a Mustang guy, I think the Hemi sounds great at low rpms, but a 5.0 (or a 4.6) revving out always sends me

    • @richardnavratil9661
      @richardnavratil9661 Год назад +4

      Better hurry, S650 (7th gen debuting in 2 weeks) is rumored to be the last V8, hopefully not tho. I got a '19 Bullitt, awesome daily. I'm sure some S550 Mustangs will be left over on the lots once new one comes out and might be a good way to pick one up cheap, altho these days what is even cheap or "car in stock?"

    • @snapp6686
      @snapp6686 Год назад +2

      @@richardnavratil9661 I jumped ship actually, got a 22 camaro! Long live V8’s! Never sell and enjoy your stang while we can 😢

    • @snapp6686
      @snapp6686 Год назад +2

      @@soontaru I think the 4.6 sounded better imo, the 5.0 is just a little to high pitch for my liking. While I loved how crazy my 5.0 sounded, I think my LT1 sounds much better. Then again I love the old school V8 sounds, so it makes sense!

  • @ismaelflores7856
    @ismaelflores7856 Год назад +17

    And its been proven the 10speed mustang is way faster than the manual

    • @klaushuxley3342
      @klaushuxley3342 Год назад

      Yes. My Dad has an old '94 5.0 that was always a turd - so that is how I have viewed Mustang GTs ever since. He now also has a new one with the premium package and 10spd. That thing freaking RIPS - holy shit. I couldn't believe it. The '94 came with 215hp, the new one has 480 I think.

  • @7718ac
    @7718ac Год назад +1

    guy in the mustang was LOCKED IN FOCUS

  • @alexanderwright3290
    @alexanderwright3290 Год назад

    good race

  • @karlkronic
    @karlkronic Год назад +13

    Those nose dives on the Z in between shifts are a thing to behold. Honestly could & should be shifting 20x faster, literally as fast as a blink sir, bang!

  • @ehmmmjay9907
    @ehmmmjay9907 Год назад +39

    Damn, I had no clue the Mustang GT was such a good value.

    • @cosmic_gate476
      @cosmic_gate476 Год назад +13

      It's with the performance pack (~$5,000), but still cheaper than the other 2 for sure

    • @KTH96
      @KTH96 Год назад +11

      The whole point of American performance cars is to be a good value lol

    • @jjbuu3560
      @jjbuu3560 Год назад +5

      That's why every guy, gal, and grandma has one out here.

    • @ronsmith4325
      @ronsmith4325 Год назад +4

      Best performance bang for your buck out there... Throw a power adder into the mix and you'll really start hurting some feelings.

    • @snapp6686
      @snapp6686 Год назад

      @@ronsmith4325 not the best, but one of them!

  • @rolexr
    @rolexr Год назад

    Yesssss I love my 2019 Mustang GT manual !!!❤

  • @user-ek6jg5ek9w
    @user-ek6jg5ek9w 3 месяца назад

    The challenge the guy wanted the cry's his heart was broken the second race😂😂😂😂

  • @robertdaone
    @robertdaone Год назад +31

    That coyote took off! The Mustang GT is the best bang for the buck you can get.

    • @anthonyh2540
      @anthonyh2540 Год назад +2

      Nope the camaro lt1 is the best bang for the buck muscle car you can get and also its faster

    • @robertdaone
      @robertdaone Год назад +8

      @@anthonyh2540 The mustang is cheaper and way more aftermarket parts available than the Camaro. Doesn't take much money to make the mustang blow the doors off of the Camaro. Stock camaro 0-60 4.1secs. Stock mustang gt auto 0-60 3.9 secs.

    • @anthonyh2540
      @anthonyh2540 Год назад +1

      @@robertdaone When my Camaro LT1 was stock i raced my buddys stock 10r80 and beat him by 2 cars and kept walking him all the way, i’m sorry buddy but you’re beloved 5.0 is not faster stock for stock than the Camaro LT1. Also the camaro is the cheaper cost per hp need i say it again?

    • @anthonyh2540
      @anthonyh2540 Год назад +1

      @@robertdaone it cost way more money to make a mustang faster than a chevy, for instance you guys have four fucking cams while i have one to worry about😂

    • @anthonyh2540
      @anthonyh2540 Год назад

      @@robertdaone if you have enough money you can make any camaro faster than any mustang vice versa

  • @makattak88
    @makattak88 Год назад +26

    Mustang sounds the best!

  • @ohger1
    @ohger1 Год назад +3

    Wow, they're very close. A race would come down to the driver in most cases.

  • @genenie5981
    @genenie5981 Год назад

    Exhaust sound on that Mustang, 100+!

  • @stevedavies1261
    @stevedavies1261 Год назад +135

    Love the content boys... Ever thought of a "Value drag" race... For example, replicating this race with predecessor models, and put a limit on the purchase price of 25% current MSRP... Might be a great way of finding some gems for your budget minded viewers, a.k.a., all of us 'po folk...

    • @cyberspectre8675
      @cyberspectre8675 Год назад +11

      Don't you mean 25% above MSRP? Used cars cost more than new ones now, somehow.

    • @calz7744
      @calz7744 Год назад +5

      @@cyberspectre8675 lol, I came here to respond with the same thing. 25% MSRP doesn't even get you a 350Z

    • @martinowings3597
      @martinowings3597 Год назад

      75 % of MSRP maybe?

    • @franciscodanconia4324
      @franciscodanconia4324 Год назад

      I'd like to see a race between a 1994 Camaro, first year SN95 Mustang, stock Mk4 Supra, stock 300Z, and a Trans Am. Or go a little older with a stock Fox Body

    • @cyberspectre8675
      @cyberspectre8675 Год назад

      @@franciscodanconia4324 Mk. 4 is in front, 300ZX is in second, followed closely by the SN95, and the F-Bodies didn't stand a chance until they got the LS1 in '98.

  • @thejasmathew6203
    @thejasmathew6203 Год назад +4

    What's that vacuum cleaner in between 😂

  • @mikem8758
    @mikem8758 Год назад

    Hey Guys....this was a great video. I have spent the last year looking for a new ride with a V6 or V8 and a manual 6 speed...oh yea, it needs to run on gasoline....LOL. In the past I have always owned foreign two seaters with 6 cylinders and a 5 speed manual transmission (280 Z, BMW Z3, BMW Z4) The only exception was a Mazda RX7 which had a killer Wankel rotary engine. I grew up in the 60-70's during the Muscle Car era but never owned one. I am not sure what the auto industry really has in mind for the future but gasoline and manual transmissions seem to be all but gone, so my desire was to find one before they completely disappear and maybe pass it on to my son as a classic some day. Yesterday I found a new 2022 Ford Mustang GT, 2 Dr. Coupe with a 5.0 V8 and a 6 speed manual transmission. I got a fantastic deal because no one can (or wants to ) drive a 6 speed manual transmission. The exterior is a metallic Shadow Black, black interior and black high gloss 5 spoke wheels. So far the Mustang 6 speed is fantastic and the exhaust note.....well it's just bad ass sounding. It's been raining so I haven't been able to really find it's top end but I will soon enough. This video was the thing that changed my mind since I had been looking at the new Nissan Z for the last several months. I just can't say enough about the Mustang. Thanks again!

  • @motomoto912
    @motomoto912 Год назад +1

    He wasn’t in track mode he was in sport mode

  • @spencersgarage
    @spencersgarage Год назад +24

    The new coyotes are not to be messed with!!

    • @Alumnikiid
      @Alumnikiid Год назад +12

      The 10 speed with Intake, tune, and exhaust. Is faster then a 6.2 supercharged hellcat

    • @noneyabizz8337
      @noneyabizz8337 Год назад +8

      ​@@Alumnikiid weight, it matters. maybe one day dodge will understand that and stop using a 30 year old platform with band-aid on it.

    • @johnnykilroy9399
      @johnnykilroy9399 Год назад +6

      @@Alumnikiid No its not lmaooooo my guy has one and thought the same and a hellcat walked his ass🤣

    • @moussadiallo6241
      @moussadiallo6241 Год назад

      I walked hellcats with mine i got videos to

    • @scitizenkane1
      @scitizenkane1 Год назад +1

      @@moussadiallo6241 "'This channel has no videos"

  • @comics-on
    @comics-on Год назад +10

    Give Karston a speaking role !!

  • @Marie00178
    @Marie00178 Год назад +1

    Wow that Mustang GT just went at it Yall should do a vid with the GT Scatpack Camaro next

  • @julianespinoza4230
    @julianespinoza4230 Год назад

    Great race! Would’ve loved to see a rolling one tho

    • @BruceKent00
      @BruceKent00 10 месяцев назад +1

      Are you blind, they did a rolling race as well

  • @04mach1speed
    @04mach1speed Год назад +7

    To be honest, all Three cars are incredible machines

  • @holeefok3158
    @holeefok3158 Год назад +6

    The Gt it's just a beauty v8 5.0 coyote.

  • @DontTreadOnMe9000
    @DontTreadOnMe9000 Год назад

    5:03 every mopar ever 🤣🤣

  • @LuisSanchez-gx8ce
    @LuisSanchez-gx8ce Год назад +1

    HI GUYS.... HAVE YOU DONE ANY VIDEO WITH 2021 CAMARO LT1