Hey everyone! Glad you enjoyed the video! Just a note on the brakes: as we said in our track test, the Model S Plaid is underbraked. Basically what that means is that it doesn’t have the stopping power to compensate for how ridiculously fast it gets to speed. Nor does it have the thermal capacity to continue to drag its mass to a stop over and over again. When we filmed this, the brakes overheated on the SECOND stop. And from then on there was a drastic reduction in braking performance. Furthermore, braking performance comes from more than just the pads and rotors. Suspension, abs calibration and tires all come into play. We found that it lacked in most of those departments and didn’t impart confidence to the drivers. When we film these we do multiple runs and tests, to make sure we can extract the best possible performance out of the cars before we actually race. And it seemed like the Plaid we had here never recovered. The first stop is “fine” yes. (Should still be better for how quickly it gets to speed) but anything after that it didn’t have the performance necessary to give the drivers a feeling of confidence at all stopping from 250+km/h on our rather bumpy braking zone. A car with this level of straight line performance should have brakes powerful enough and consistent enough to stop it over and over again. That said, if you just treat this like a road car. It’s totally fine. And despite our comments we are still blown away by the Plaid. Thanks for watching!
Honestly you guys should just do a brake test. All this just seems like speculation until you bring in some comparable cars at the same price range, and test their braking distances. Bring in a few 100% stock cars, with the manufacturer’s brakes still on, and do a side-by-side test to show how it compares to similar cars at its price range.
Yeah ... that is pure BS as usual ..... You really sound like the people being bullied by gas car companies. DragTimes and Plaid Racing Channel do it all the time and not one issue soooo.... Proven BS and bad marketing on YOUR part is clear as a bell.
it's like the gtr became bad and outdated at everything it stood for . Reliable, everyday supercar killer and can be tuned to insane amounts of power .
@@smoshfan1234 The GTR isn't a supercar killer anymore, it's over 10 years old now. An M5 Competition can destroy it with 5 seats and tonnes of luxury tech.
The 911 is still super impressive - not sure if you remember but for the 50th Anniversary they took a 911 turbo s and launched it back to back to back 50 times without any issues or hiccups - that is impressive engineering - that model s plaid is just another level of fast!!!!
@@turbolynn So you plan to drag race your car on regular roads up to 160MPH per hour? That is irresponsible and the car was not made for that. So go spend your extra 70K and never actually race your car on the track and waste your money because you want a car to stop from 160 MPH safely which you will never do.
@7841. I’d rather spend my money on a car that I can drive cross country in days and never give me issues instead of a Tesla that would take weeks and probably have issues. Not saying the plaid isn’t a nice or fast car but Porsche’s are designed not for straight seats but for driver/car mating. I’d take a Porsche over a Tesla any day of the week because the only downside to a Porsche is price. The downside to the Tesla is a very long list. I say that with the upmost respect to Elon as he’s actually one of my top 4 favorite ppl of all time. P.S. A lot of 911/ Cayman owners track their car regularly so yes, it makes sense for someone to want brakes that outperform 100 to 1 compared to the Tesla.
@@richardswain5033 you can’t seat 4 in a Porsche with luggage. People have kids and family so it’s only possible to have as a second car. Maybe for you it works but for vast majority of people, it’s not even an option as a daily. You can have your Porsche, I’ll take a Tesla and rent a van if I have to drive across the country and seat more then 2 people and save over $100K. P.S. no Tesla owners take their car to a race track and it brakes plenty good if your not driving 150mph and slamming on the brakes.
@@oxide9717 Yea I don't get the lying of the brake distance from Throttle House. The Plaid and even the M3P beats other cars on braking tests all the time on other tests.
@@elijahsmall5873 Uh yeah, every time they tried to stop, they came out of their seats, leaned forward, and prayed to have it stop. Such a horrible design.
@@bp51082 oh 100%, the tesla is designed for the American Market so they just wanted it to smash their competitors in the quarter mile. No one will be buying a 3 ton luxury cruiser to race around corners.
You know the experience is different when two people that have drag raced so many cars have the expression of absolute terror at the end of driving this car. EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Even when I had the Tesla 85D, I thought it was scary so got rid of it. The Plaid is on another level of scary. No thanks. If you lose control, you are not surviving in any of them. Too tempting, too risky, too dangerous.
Thats my point it has more than enough power and drives brilliantly plus it is very high quality and looks super so why do anyone need to buy the plaid. Of course tesla fans boys apart from them no does.model s are non existing
I went for a ride in an S Plaid today and it was a mind bending experience. If I could compare it to something it was like being electrocuted (in kind of a good way) vision went blurry, frozen in place and a rush of adrenaline after it was over. Absolutely unreal
I like the moments in between races when y’all pull up to one another and chat. Never feels like the conversation is being rushed or edited out. Makes it feel more natural and real life Great vid
I don’t think it’s under-braked. I think it’s just traveling so fast that you can’t use the normal breaking zones. If you’re usually used to trapping 100mph and breaking at the 100m marker and now you’re traveling 130mph, you HAVE to brake earlier lol.
@@Soh90 I think you've hit the nail on the head. The brakes aren't necessarily bad. It's just the plaid is so fkn fast that you need overpowered brakes to slow it down. Hopefully we see huge carbon ceramics on the 'track mode' version
Guys who mod their cars: "My car has a soul. I built it from the ground up, unlike your stock piece of sh-t." Also them: *Engine breaks down every time they go fast.
One of the points that they didn't mention in the video is that the power delivery of the Tesla Model S Plaid is limited up to about 60MPH because the acceleration is as quick as it can be. Being limited by AWD street tire traction. The difference in the Plaid model, is that after 60MPH the power keeps building from 600HP up to 1000HP+ and stays there to VMAX. So other AWD high performance cars can accelerate to 60MPH almost as quickly as the Plaid, but then the Plaid's power keeps building and it just walks away from most every other production car ever made. 60-130MPH and 100-150MPH are both around 4.5 seconds! Which is simply amazing!
@@novrahadi8568 gutting a model S makes it useless for a lot of things it was made for. Tuning a turbo s does not. You still keep everything else it was made for. I.e. you're sacrificing a lot for it vs not for the turbo s
I like how Thomas says he’s not being dramatic about the braking. And then you James does the same thing in the Model S and then you see how dramatic Thomas actually is. 😂
James just ended off track, looked rather scared, even though he knew Thomas made it two times without crashing. That's not quite relaxing, I would argue.
One car, heavy as fuck. Other car, lighter. One driver, seems like they KNOW how to drive considering he tracks his car and also seems like he can point out the cars flaws -BRAKING- which seems to be a huge issue! The other...is just funny. I don't see it as dramatic, I see it as him from a track drivers pov reacting to the seriousness of the situation, vs the other who's like....weeeee! This is a yin and yang moment.
@@kuraryuX why was Thomas shaking the wheel up to 90 degrees while braking, and James just held it straight? It seems like shaking your wheel while braking would not be the safer thing to do. (To be clear, I heavily the plaid has too little brakes, just think that Thomas is exaggerating a bit)
@@sjorsangevare well there's two categories that could be why Thomas was struggling, weight (which we all know) and brake wear/fade. By the third run those brakes were already pushed to its limits, hell maybe even the second run, remember when James said he could smell his brakes? That's a sign of VERY heavy braking. Which gives me reason to believe that the braking wasn't exaggerated for Thomas, he was really fighting the brakes. An I do believe one episode when they did this, not sure what they dragged against but he raced the tesla against something and he had to put BOTH feet on the brakes to stop the car. Plus also we gotta add in the speed of that machine and weight that those tiny brakes can't handle. That car needs 6 piston brembo (or equivalent) brakes to stop that tank of a car.
May be they are not used to driving at that speeds. Here in Germany, most people who have cars drive 180 - 200 km/h regularly on the Autobahn as a part of daily commute. It doesn't starts getting scary up until 250 km/h (for me personally).
@@ravirajyaguru5905 Thomas does circuit racing in his spare time, so I think he's used to speed. How would you feel seeing a Model S doing 250km on the Autobahn knowing that it'll have a much longer braking distance (and less stable braking) than your average fast German car? Cars should really be top speed limited based on their braking performance.
@@pjwashington5818 wouldn't matter. Still would lose. And remember the PLAID hasn't been full unleashed yet. They are sending a update that allows a 200 mph top speed. Which means even more nutty speed.
yes porsche is the best even with half power it kept up well, all these Elon fangirls forgetting the taycan will easily beat the Tesla pig for less money!! 🤣🤣
@@speedygamer2544 umm the taycan is slower than the 911 turbo S. A quick Google search and you'd know that too. 😅 There's nothing in the electric space that is better yet. With the exception of the rimac navera which is millions of dollars.
@@conharv2270 Absolutely nailed on they are American. I'm from NE England and I doubt that would have made me laugh in year 6. The guy was far to animated when breaking, felt like he was auditioning for a west end play. Meanwhile the brit is casual AF. You muricans are wierddd
@@rashaxx5217 Those ads you see on websites saying something along the lines of “lose 10 lbs in 3 days” then the ad proceeds to say “doctors hate him” as if this guy in the ad knows a secret a doctor doesn’t for losing weight
You can buy used Plaids for around $60K USD now. $60K for a car that runs 9s in the 1/4 mile, puts 1100HP to the wheels on a dyno and you can drive it to work with your cooled seats, AC and music blasting. Let that sink in.
@ Relax, I wasn't being literal. However, consider this: 2021 Tesla Model S Plaid Location: Illinois Milage: 31,581 Asking price: $45,972 Original MSRP: around $140,000
Porsche are the masters of launch control. Really, this is insanely impressive considering how much harder and more indirect it is to regulate a combustion engine compared to multiple electric engines for every tire in a launch. Hats off to the engineers.
And you can fuck with their distribution of drives, it can give all the power back if necessary, it can go forward to level out, The car has been made for 50 years, it would still not be impressive, and any Porsche drifts so easily for the distribution of drives 😅
@@Augustus_Imperator it has also over 400Nm of torque and 450hp of power advantage over the 911, so ... Anyways, both are limited by tires at launch. The 911 is just really impressive in terms of launch control on an ice powered car.
@@manulovesjesus 911 certainly is an impressive machine, nothing can beat it in a drag race except for the Plaid, no other car has even a chance except those modified with real race/drag components, I was just pointing out that on third more weight (1000 pounds*) and on third less power can put them kind of in a very similar condition to weight to power ratio
These are two completely different animals, one has 5 seats and the other 2 so yeah the Porsche better have a decent response. I think the Roadster will be a better comparison.
I already knew the Plaid is fast in a straight line - what really surprised me was the Porsche, it was not that far off despite the massive difference in horsepower.
Both of them boys looked super-scared specially impressed by take-off but coming super-hot like missiles then over-cooking the brakes and see the runway ending 10 feet in front.. they both were blocked, pale & shaking.. yep was real ! ;0)
@@Mr1Tanker Because the bug isn't obviously flawed (actually in the other end of the spectrum) as the Tesla is. Also I don't see "bug fanboys" saying going around selling "Tesla is the best car ever made" like they are selling their fanatic religion. Anyway, I don't think I need to be here arguing how tesla has the worse fans, because that's like discussing if the sky is blue or pink. I actually like their cars and the forward thinking atitude Tesla has, but I would never own a tesla simply to no be associated with their smug owners.
@@weed46 honestly the Tesla makes a lot of sense for non car people if they want something stupid fast. I just can’t believe it doubles as a grocery getter too. Like it’s actually insane to think about. You have a car you can bring to the drag strip that competes as well as getting groceries. But ICE tho, that vroom vroom noise never gets old. I want both lol
I think the real takeaway from this, at least for me, is how god damn impressing that 911 Turbo is. My goodness, as if I didn't already dream about Porsches enough already! Haha
porsche is a glorified vw bug that has a niche group of blind followers that can't see it for what it is. I'm sure if that tesla said porsche on it you all would be worshipping it as well.
@@addictedtopussy69 xD will you ever understand that putting riddiculous amout of power into any car is simple as fuck and it means nothing if the car can't do much more than that? That's why taycan was better than model s - it looked better, was of much higher quality, was MUCH faster in the corners. And I would still take it any day(if I ddint have to pay for it ofc) over Plaid because speed is easy.
important thing is acceleration. you can always crash into a wall and stop but the car wont go faster by itself, it needs power for that. so brakes are irrelevant if you are a tesla chad
Yeah Thomas mentioned in the track test that the brakes are just not really up to the job of stopping the tubby Model S. Huge power, huge weight, not enough stopping power. Mind you, it's probably good enough for most people as I can't think too many buyers will be tracking their Model S's.
Lmao that’s literally all people can say about it? Not “wow that’s fast” or “I’m impressed the plaid won” it’s always gotta be “ha ha Tesla sucks because _________”. I swear the “I hate tesla” people have gotten as impossible to talk to as the brainwashed tesla fanboys. People really just can’t say “plaid is impressive” and then leave it at that.
@@roger3958 Porsche still has W in handling W looks W interior W heritage Ur not only buying it for speed, but also the assurance that ur car wont have panel gaps
@@roger3958 the porsche also comes with all wheel steering, carbon ceramic brakes, forged wheels..... the tesla has regular cheap cast wheels, garbage brakes....
Agreed. Teslas are a party trick. Will be obsolete in 5-10yrs. Specifically due to better battery technology. And the fun will wear off once even the planet huggers realize the pollution of trashing one of these huge battery banks. Still. Quite fun to ride in!
Takes 2 minutes to get that Plaid in race mode. 8 minutes for optimal heating of the batteries. Depending on how warm they already are. - Brooks from DragTimes.
@@xwin557x3 maybe, it has to be accessible to the general public first. We've had cool and amazing tech on cars for forever (like MGU-K in F1) but if it's not cheap and accessible I'm not sure what to do with it, you know?
@@boycottwalton9718 Someones butthurt. Horsepower does matter a lot in terms of acceleration. Go ask every dragracer in the world. Go to TX2K or FL2K and all the 3000 hp cars there will prove you wrong.
@@thedumbconspirator4956 no kiddo. Get some knowledge before saying bs. It's torque which matters the most in acceleration. HP determine top speed not acceleration in the first place.
@@boycottwalton9718 no kiddo. You dont understand the difference. Torque applies to applications related to towing and hauling, that's why every truck and bus on god's green earth has a high torque engine while sports cars have a high hp engine. A 1075 lb-ft ram 3500 Cummins isn't gonna be running low 9s in the quarter-mile bud. Torque applies to low end acceleration, other than that hp is the ability to keep going and maintain that pull.
There’s a reason they only use them in f1 cars because they need very little input to turn but also safety during a crash they can remove them and or less likely to smash into other things also visibility
@@hamzaelfaik5375 so in conclusion, when you buy a 2+2 seater sportscar double in price and put another 50k in it to get 1000hp you will end up beeing faster? Ok, but what do we learn from that?
@@romansenger2322 we learned that if there are corners on the track the porshe will win every single time. teslas are only good for drag race ... for now.
Why would it be? You already know the results. The model S is a 4 door sedan meant to haul people. Turbo S is a track car that is made for the street. That is a dumb ass question.
Should have better breaks, but most people won’t and shouldn’t drive it that fast on regular road conditions, you can’t blame the car for people driving 160-200km/h on the road (not autobahn of course). You can install them aftermarket, but you still reallyshouldnt have to do that, tesla needs to step up there game there
@@sadenuttie2234 You’re right however, it has 1000+ hp, they knew people would drive this fast. This is fastest production sedan ever and they give it shitty breaks!
@@limitedreach4446 people should not be driving that fast on the road in any condition, it is dangerous and irresponsible and could kill other drivers, regardless if it had good brakes or not. Tesla should not be help accountable for people doing that. I think the main reason why it does not have amazing brakes is due to it being designed to be driven as a daily car, with great specs and acceleration (which you can use on the road safely), and it is designed to use primarily regenerative braking as a means of slowing down and stopping. Anyway, just my take, they really should have better brakes though, of course there are safety concerns and it would just be a better all round car, but I think it is being made bigger a deal than it really is by elitist gatekeeping ICE fangirls, and I love ICE, I have a degree in mechanical engineering, it is just that I can respect both
On the Nordschleife here in Germany the Plaid is slower than a Camaro ZL1 1LE. And the price from the Plaid is….you know. And by the way the Tesla looks sooooo boring.
And the look, interior and build quality. But I've to say I don't have much sympathy towards Elon Musk in general, because he uses dubious methods for publicity and pushing the value of his companies to increase his own wealth, so I'm not fully objective. Tesla is worth as much as all other bigger car companies together while selling a microscopic fraction of cars, so Tesla would've to take over the whole market to live up to its market price, which he created with a cult of personality around him, getting many normal people into buying shares, giving wrong promises and pseudo-revolutionary features. Not everything is bad and he made some really cool stuff, but there are many things I don't like and he does them well knowing it will make him richer.
@Kevin Smith It will never get into Production Man. Accept the Fact that Porsche did real well. Bring the Plaid to a Racetrack and the Turbo S Will gap it lol.
@Kevin Smith Imagine this, imagine that. The Roadster 2.0 is a fairly "tail". 1100hp gtr already gap the plaid. Go check it out on the tesla plaid channel..
I am thankful that you made the first drag race with out putting it to lunch mode with the 8 minutes wait so you can now how it will be in real life but a traffic light
@@andrewdevine3920 Every ground breaking invention usually is, the first light bulbs only lasted a few seconds, but they changed everything. Just like Tesla is.
@@andrewdevine3920 Porsche is notoriously "famous" about its quality. Many people want to own a Porsche. But many when own a Porsche, they only want to get rid of it. They spend many months a year to fix a Porsche. Tesla is a sedan, it is still able to beat a Porsche. About "around a track", remind you it's a sedan, it doesn't need to be "around a track".
These Tesla Stans will defend their bloated under performing pig till they die lol. It is a one trick pony type of car. If Tesla made any effort to have an actual performance car I might be interested.
Problem is no car manufacture produce 1000+ hp ICE cars. And Tesla is mass producing model s plaid. everything above 500hp is unreliable when it comes to ICE cars. Look after new M-Models from BMW and AMG. It’s last of their generation.
This is one of the reasons I’m not really a fan of racing modified cars against factory cars in comparisons. It sort of defeats the whole point to me, at least if we are comparing cars as they were meant to be. Once you start making significant changes to performance, it’s no longer really the same vehicle. It also becomes much harder to draw a line in the sand.
I don't know why they don't have a more aggresive regenerative mode (kinda "drag" or "race" mode) which works on situations like this when you're hardly accelerating past a certain speed
It passed regulations because those brakes are conpletly fine for road usage. You won't ever race your car like that on the road, which is why it passed regulations. On the track however, this is super dangerous. Not sure who thought that this was fine
Great video. Watching the CarWow's 911 Turbo S vs. the Taycan Turbo showed how insanely quick the 911 is. It would be interesting to see what the new Z06 does vs. the 911 Turbo S - but the latter will probably win, a more fair competition would be the new Z06 vs. the 911 GT3 RS.
@@BigfootUnibrowMan gt3 will get gapped hard ...it would be a great Track race tho . I think the c8 z06 will sit in between the gt3 rs and close to gt2rs on course and right behind the gt2 rs on the strip.
The GT3 RS is a track focused weapon, not a drag racer. I want Porsche to make a three motor Taycan and call it the Turbo GT to go against the Plaid in a straight line and around track.
This just goes to show exactly how well the Turbo S was engineered. It's got about 400 less horsepower than the Plaid, yet it's side by side on the launch and for a good portion of the race. The damn thing is a missile, and it's one of the best designed and manufactured cars ever in my opinion.
I have one. No sht thier reaction is real. When the car accelerates too fast. I don't feel fun. I just want to puke and I have to try so hard to maintain my foot on the gas.
@@Shift4g that's good! If had the choice between the Turbo S and plaid I would go for the plaid, but if it was a GT3(RS), I would definitely take that.
I hope u guys are still gonna be posting on Extra Throttle House too, not complaining of course I love both channels I was just wondering cause it's been a minute lol
@@floridajames04 people that buy these cars dont worry about fixing them, the have warranty which is something that you get with new cars, one day if you work really hard you will understand.
Its a 2 door sports car with decades of engineering, the Plaid is the fastest groceries getter ever made. If it wasn't this close I would be worried for Porsche.
@@piksnapper Porsche doesn’t even care about quarter mile times a gt3 with 500 hp with a worse power to weight ratio than a Tesla model s plaid destroys the plaid around the Nurburgring by legit 40 secs quarter mile times aren’t everything the model s plaid had a better power to weight ratio than the 992 turbo s anyways
There are a lot of car reviewers on RUclips. I think most of them do a pretty great job doing what they do, but the chemistry and humor these two have is unrivaled. They just make everything so much more fun and enjoyable to watch. I like SavageGeese for documentary like content. The straight pipes for casual stuff... but these guys. I watch these guys for a good time
@Trillian I really like The Topher for pov car reviews. Any Hagerty video with Jason Cammisa is worth watching. Doug Demuro does some pretty funny exotic car reviews. I watch throttle house and Topher more than anybody else. Doug is probably the third. The rest are interchangeable.
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Hey everyone! Glad you enjoyed the video! Just a note on the brakes: as we said in our track test, the Model S Plaid is underbraked. Basically what that means is that it doesn’t have the stopping power to compensate for how ridiculously fast it gets to speed. Nor does it have the thermal capacity to continue to drag its mass to a stop over and over again. When we filmed this, the brakes overheated on the SECOND stop. And from then on there was a drastic reduction in braking performance. Furthermore, braking performance comes from more than just the pads and rotors. Suspension, abs calibration and tires all come into play. We found that it lacked in most of those departments and didn’t impart confidence to the drivers. When we film these we do multiple runs and tests, to make sure we can extract the best possible performance out of the cars before we actually race. And it seemed like the Plaid we had here never recovered. The first stop is “fine” yes. (Should still be better for how quickly it gets to speed) but anything after that it didn’t have the performance necessary to give the drivers a feeling of confidence at all stopping from 250+km/h on our rather bumpy braking zone. A car with this level of straight line performance should have brakes powerful enough and consistent enough to stop it over and over again. That said, if you just treat this like a road car. It’s totally fine. And despite our comments we are still blown away by the Plaid. Thanks for watching!
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Makes sense, we respect your observations. Literally only here to confirm there has been activity in the last 8 days. Need more TH.
Honestly you guys should just do a brake test. All this just seems like speculation until you bring in some comparable cars at the same price range, and test their braking distances. Bring in a few 100% stock cars, with the manufacturer’s brakes still on, and do a side-by-side test to show how it compares to similar cars at its price range.
@@philorgneopolotin8762 On equal brake quality Teslas would lose because they weigh more
Yeah ... that is pure BS as usual ..... You really sound like the people being bullied by gas car companies. DragTimes and Plaid Racing Channel do it all the time and not one issue soooo.... Proven BS and bad marketing on YOUR part is clear as a bell.
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When he tried to put his hands on the steering wheel like it's a normal wheel, I lost it lmao
lol
i notice it lol
But why this steering wheel is like that? this is so dangerous and probably unconfortable
@@gugaastira8842 F1 type steering wheel
@@ervinzhou8251 yea the f1 steering wheel but the top has a cover
The phantom steering wheel grab at 8:19 was the BEST!
Well spotted ☺
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haha didnt even notice that
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Haha nice.
I swear every time I watch a Drag Race with a tuned GTR, it just breaks, both here and on Carwow
Soooooo true
it's like the gtr became bad and outdated at everything it stood for . Reliable, everyday supercar killer and can be tuned to insane amounts of power .
jdm boys are gonna be furious
It's the reality of building a car yourself. Many times you only know what to upgrade when it breaks. Race, lose, build, race again, win... hopefully
@@smoshfan1234 The GTR isn't a supercar killer anymore, it's over 10 years old now. An M5 Competition can destroy it with 5 seats and tonnes of luxury tech.
The 911 is still super impressive - not sure if you remember but for the 50th Anniversary they took a 911 turbo s and launched it back to back to back 50 times without any issues or hiccups - that is impressive engineering - that model s plaid is just another level of fast!!!!
@Tyler id rather spend that 70k than die because of how underbraked the tesla is
@@turbolynn So you plan to drag race your car on regular roads up to 160MPH per hour? That is irresponsible and the car was not made for that. So go spend your extra 70K and never actually race your car on the track and waste your money because you want a car to stop from 160 MPH safely which you will never do.
@7841.
I’d rather spend my money on a car that I can drive cross country in days and never give me issues instead of a Tesla that would take weeks and probably have issues. Not saying the plaid isn’t a nice or fast car but Porsche’s are designed not for straight seats but for driver/car mating. I’d take a Porsche over a Tesla any day of the week because the only downside to a Porsche is price. The downside to the Tesla is a very long list. I say that with the upmost respect to Elon as he’s actually one of my top 4 favorite ppl of all time.
P.S. A lot of 911/ Cayman owners track their car regularly so yes, it makes sense for someone to want brakes that outperform 100 to 1 compared to the Tesla.
@@richardswain5033 you can’t seat 4 in a Porsche with luggage. People have kids and family so it’s only possible to have as a second car. Maybe for you it works but for vast majority of people, it’s not even an option as a daily. You can have your Porsche, I’ll take a Tesla and rent a van if I have to drive across the country and seat more then 2 people and save over $100K.
P.S. no Tesla owners take their car to a race track and it brakes plenty good if your not driving 150mph and slamming on the brakes.
lool the driving experience of a 911 is on another level please don't compare it to an ev
James calming braking while Tom tries not shitting himself trying to stop was the real race.
That is actual fear too. He's stressed as and actually swearing. I don't think he likes it.
I wish they showed a distance brake test..
Thomas is a little drama queen lol
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The brake temperature high 'no shit' part made me literally Laugh out loud
They need to match the brakes to a car this heavy and fast. Tesla continues to half bake these cars.
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Thomas must be perplexed as to how people drag race the Plaid Model S repeatedly during a day at the dragstrip without smoking the brakes.
Yeah, and should’ve driven a bit to cool them, not sit on hot brakes to warp:(
Same, in public
I can't wait to see the braking test for the plaid in Carwow
Watch hoonigans video on its they are lying about the brakes on the plaid
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I dont think Matt has long enough runway
Brakes are fine...
For 1 try that is
@@oxide9717 Yea I don't get the lying of the brake distance from Throttle House. The Plaid and even the M3P beats other cars on braking tests all the time on other tests.
@@f36443 it doesn’t help that they’re going super fast
The G Force of the Tesla Plaid genuinely shook them up. You can see the fear on their faces.
No the shitty brakes shook them up. You can See it After the line. They both also shooked about the seesaw of the car
@@dominikdi9835 Um...no
@@elijahsmall5873 Uh yeah, every time they tried to stop, they came out of their seats, leaned forward, and prayed to have it stop. Such a horrible design.
@@dominikdi9835 someone feeling jealous from evs
Awesome speed shitty brakes make this car very unsafe
Turbo S is insanely impressive, it literally has almost 400hp less than the plaid
Yeah but 2 tons less
Biggest problem is that it has to shift gears...
@@darcos7535 it has a dsg box so that's milliseconds
Yeah and in real driving conditions, say with some corners, bye bye Tesla
@@bp51082 oh 100%, the tesla is designed for the American Market so they just wanted it to smash their competitors in the quarter mile.
No one will be buying a 3 ton luxury cruiser to race around corners.
You know the experience is different when two people that have drag raced so many cars have the expression of absolute terror at the end of driving this car. EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Being scared safely and unsafe are two types of sh*t in your pants.
Tesla to me is incredible fast but safety is incredibly high concerning.
Even when I had the Tesla 85D, I thought it was scary so got rid of it. The Plaid is on another level of scary. No thanks. If you lose control, you are not surviving in any of them. Too tempting, too risky, too dangerous.
The tesla put all technology into going fast in a straight line. It is horrific at stopping an turning which makes it dangerous but not in a fun way.
That's because they weigh too much to stop, scared he's going to run out of track 😂
@@buffalobill9958 Exactly.
That 911 is super impressive for how much less power it has compared to the other two
Thats my point it has more than enough power and drives brilliantly plus it is very high quality and looks super so why do anyone need to buy the plaid. Of course tesla fans boys apart from them no does.model s are non existing
one's a racer, one's a full size sedan.
It’s pretty embarrassing at the same time😯
@@chrisvig123 Embarrassing how a 1000hp electric car beats a 650hp petrol car? How exactly is that embarrassing? Porsche did great!
@@kenmasters2025 Your point being?
I went for a ride in an S Plaid today and it was a mind bending experience. If I could compare it to something it was like being electrocuted (in kind of a good way) vision went blurry, frozen in place and a rush of adrenaline after it was over. Absolutely unreal
lucid air sapphire makes look the plaid a slow arse
@@mortensenvick5711 glad another EV finally caught up to the plaid. It was king for a while. And guess what, only another EV could beat it.
@@mortensenvick5711for more than 150k more expensive. Imo, not worth it
Makes you wonder what it would feel like to go 340 mph in just a thousand feet.
@@davidbaker2778 well, i fly 500mph in the air all the time. Doesnt feel fast at all.
I like the moments in between races when y’all pull up to one another and chat. Never feels like the conversation is being rushed or edited out. Makes it feel more natural and real life Great vid
that model S plaid is INSANELY, DANGEROUSLY underbraked 😅
I don’t think it’s under-braked. I think it’s just traveling so fast that you can’t use the normal breaking zones. If you’re usually used to trapping 100mph and breaking at the 100m marker and now you’re traveling 130mph, you HAVE to brake earlier lol.
It's dangerous period. 99.9% of the public can not even begin to fathom how fast this car is.
@@Soh90 I think you've hit the nail on the head. The brakes aren't necessarily bad. It's just the plaid is so fkn fast that you need overpowered brakes to slow it down.
Hopefully we see huge carbon ceramics on the 'track mode' version
@@timcartwright4679 then so is a Chiron or sf90 etc
@@supaahflyy yeah but those cars are absolutely unaffordable for everybody.
The plaid is pretty affordable against the others
9:30
James: “I got a front right safety restraint fault.” *actually looks over to see why
Thomas: “Yea”
Why is this funnier than it is
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“I got a front right safety restraint SYSTEM fault” *
Guys who mod their cars: "My car has a soul. I built it from the ground up, unlike your stock piece of sh-t."
Also them: *Engine breaks down every time they go fast.
“We’re similar!”
“We’re similar!”
I have never heard that being said in a drag race. That’s why I keep coming back.
Go watch carwow then
One of the points that they didn't mention in the video is that the power delivery of the Tesla Model S Plaid is limited up to about 60MPH because the acceleration is as quick as it can be. Being limited by AWD street tire traction. The difference in the Plaid model, is that after 60MPH the power keeps building from 600HP up to 1000HP+ and stays there to VMAX. So other AWD high performance cars can accelerate to 60MPH almost as quickly as the Plaid, but then the Plaid's power keeps building and it just walks away from most every other production car ever made. 60-130MPH and 100-150MPH are both around 4.5 seconds! Which is simply amazing!
"Fast & Furious 23 - Jessie's Paw Gets Outa Prison"..........when he's always 30sec from everywhere, he spots you and your Plaid says "6 Minutes remaining to warm it's tootsies". {0.o}
😆😂🤣
Didnt think the turbo s would be so close, a tuned one could actually win.
Gutted plaid will destroy that tuned turbo s
You're kidding right?
@@amalxavier5102 that's fact
@@novrahadi8568 nah lmaoo
@@novrahadi8568 gutting a model S makes it useless for a lot of things it was made for.
Tuning a turbo s does not. You still keep everything else it was made for.
I.e. you're sacrificing a lot for it vs not for the turbo s
dude how is james always on point with the quips.
the "doctors hate him" was so good lmao
I like how Thomas says he’s not being dramatic about the braking. And then you James does the same thing in the Model S and then you see how dramatic Thomas actually is. 😂
Yeah, he's shaking the wheel left and right and James just keeps it straight 🤷♀️
James just ended off track, looked rather scared, even though he knew Thomas made it two times without crashing. That's not quite relaxing, I would argue.
One car, heavy as fuck. Other car, lighter. One driver, seems like they KNOW how to drive considering he tracks his car and also seems like he can point out the cars flaws -BRAKING- which seems to be a huge issue! The other...is just funny.
I don't see it as dramatic, I see it as him from a track drivers pov reacting to the seriousness of the situation, vs the other who's like....weeeee! This is a yin and yang moment.
@@kuraryuX why was Thomas shaking the wheel up to 90 degrees while braking, and James just held it straight? It seems like shaking your wheel while braking would not be the safer thing to do. (To be clear, I heavily the plaid has too little brakes, just think that Thomas is exaggerating a bit)
@@sjorsangevare well there's two categories that could be why Thomas was struggling, weight (which we all know) and brake wear/fade. By the third run those brakes were already pushed to its limits, hell maybe even the second run, remember when James said he could smell his brakes? That's a sign of VERY heavy braking. Which gives me reason to believe that the braking wasn't exaggerated for Thomas, he was really fighting the brakes. An I do believe one episode when they did this, not sure what they dragged against but he raced the tesla against something and he had to put BOTH feet on the brakes to stop the car. Plus also we gotta add in the speed of that machine and weight that those tiny brakes can't handle. That car needs 6 piston brembo (or equivalent) brakes to stop that tank of a car.
Never seen grown men look so scared after driving a car...... I'm terrified of the plaid now!
I'ts over acting
May be they are not used to driving at that speeds. Here in Germany, most people who have cars drive 180 - 200 km/h regularly on the Autobahn as a part of daily commute. It doesn't starts getting scary up until 250 km/h (for me personally).
That car has 0 braking capabilities. So I think he’s a afraid of running out of road and possibly damaging the car off track
Because of the garbage brakes you mean....... those things were almost ready to fail.
@@ravirajyaguru5905 Thomas does circuit racing in his spare time, so I think he's used to speed. How would you feel seeing a Model S doing 250km on the Autobahn knowing that it'll have a much longer braking distance (and less stable braking) than your average fast German car?
Cars should really be top speed limited based on their braking performance.
Considering the Porsche is at a decent power disadvantage to the Tesla it still does really well.
The 911 is amazing
Just imagine if that Porsche had 1000 hp lol
@@pjwashington5818 Carwow had a 1100 older hp turbo s and it did the quartermile in 9.7 seconds which is kinda surprising
@@user-fr8kv7jf2k gearing plays some part I guess
@@pjwashington5818 wouldn't matter. Still would lose. And remember the PLAID hasn't been full unleashed yet. They are sending a update that allows a 200 mph top speed. Which means even more nutty speed.
@@MrSupersaiyangoku too bad in an actual race with turns the tesla will get beat by a fucking type r
The way that Plaid is squatting as it goes down the strip is insane.
I am actually genuinely impressed by the Porsche and how it stood it's ground to a 400hp more powerful electric car on a unprepped surface...daammn !
yes porsche is the best even with half power it kept up well, all these Elon fangirls forgetting the taycan will easily beat the Tesla pig for less money!! 🤣🤣
@@speedygamer2544 umm the taycan is slower than the 911 turbo S. A quick Google search and you'd know that too. 😅
There's nothing in the electric space that is better yet. With the exception of the rimac navera which is millions of dollars.
@@speedygamer2544 is that why the Taycan lost to the Model 3 seven rounds in a row during the Japan EV only Grand Prix?
@@speedygamer2544 well said
Agreed and the reliability factor is superb.
"Silent but deadly...just like a fart" you killed me on this one 🤣
Are you american?
Got me off guard too :D
@@conharv2270 Absolutely nailed on they are American. I'm from NE England and I doubt that would have made me laugh in year 6. The guy was far to animated when breaking, felt like he was auditioning for a west end play. Meanwhile the brit is casual AF. You muricans are wierddd
@@heleneustace3949 based
@@heleneustace3949 thank you
"doctors hate him"
Just subtle reminders like this that remind you this channel is the best channel, lol.
@@rashaxx5217 Those ads you see on websites saying something along the lines of “lose 10 lbs in 3 days” then the ad proceeds to say “doctors hate him” as if this guy in the ad knows a secret a doctor doesn’t for losing weight
@@uuuu260 Well... Most Doctors are just Web MD experts and pill pushers.
@@nexushexus4365 I’m just referring to the ad he was quoting because someone asked for an explaination
@@rashaxx5217 yeah I know, I wasn’t validating what the ad said just merely stating what the ad was, those ads are clickbait spam
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You can buy used Plaids for around $60K USD now. $60K for a car that runs 9s in the 1/4 mile, puts 1100HP to the wheels on a dyno and you can drive it to work with your cooled seats, AC and music blasting. Let that sink in.
And within another 3 years it'll probably halve it's value again.
@@jackbryan4676 unless the model 3s falls into 5k to 10k range, it wont. maybe towards mid to high 40k range. but not half (30k).
@ Relax, I wasn't being literal. However, consider this:
2021 Tesla Model S Plaid
Location: Illinois
Milage: 31,581
Asking price: $45,972
Original MSRP: around $140,000
Porsche are the masters of launch control. Really, this is insanely impressive considering how much harder and more indirect it is to regulate a combustion engine compared to multiple electric engines for every tire in a launch. Hats off to the engineers.
And you can fuck with their distribution of drives, it can give all the power back if necessary, it can go forward to level out, The car has been made for 50 years, it would still not be impressive, and any Porsche drifts so easily for the distribution of drives 😅
Calm down Porche Fen boy
Tesla Just destroyed It
Loosers always make Excuses💯😂
it has 1000* pounds of battery less though lol
@@Augustus_Imperator it has also over 400Nm of torque and 450hp of power advantage over the 911, so ...
Anyways, both are limited by tires at launch. The 911 is just really impressive in terms of launch control on an ice powered car.
@@manulovesjesus 911 certainly is an impressive machine, nothing can beat it in a drag race except for the Plaid, no other car has even a chance except those modified with real race/drag components, I was just pointing out that on third more weight (1000 pounds*) and on third less power can put them kind of in a very similar condition to weight to power ratio
Their facial reactions during braking and after braking w both plaids is hilarious! Love it!
Tesla simp
Porsche did so good since the hp difference is massive compared to the plaid, like 400hp difference? but still an outstanding job to Porsche!
^ These fuckin bots, I swear
Anyway, the 911 Turbo S is absolutely my top 5 favorite vehicles of all time.
Porsche learned that hp isn't everything
Ehh power to weight ratio is more important.
Yeah but the Porsche also weighs a lot less.
These are two completely different animals, one has 5 seats and the other 2 so yeah the Porsche better have a decent response. I think the Roadster will be a better comparison.
the twist of the electric motor pushes the chassis into the ground, overcoming the font lifting forces.
it's hard to beat that traction advantage.
Still insane how well the Turbo S keeps up with 650 hp
The Turbo S is lighter and just a 2 seater don’t forget that.
@@Anonym-dx2tp but has an ice and has to change gears
@@Anonym-dx2tp Actually a Turbo S has 4 seats
@@Anonym-dx2tp okay and the Tesla has a much better power to weight ratio what’s your point? 4.67 power to weight compared to the porsches 5.68
Porsche hp are special hp.
8:18 James trying to put his hand on top of the steering wheel 😆😆😆
LOL I was about to comment this 😂
👍🏻👍🏻😁😂😂
I already knew the Plaid is fast in a straight line - what really surprised me was the Porsche, it was not that far off despite the massive difference in horsepower.
Guess the rough surface made it so both cars were traction limited rather than power limited for a lot of the run.
It was off. Once you got past a certain mph the Plaid walks away. It's smoked a SF90 FERRARI. Which beats a 765LT. No contest.
until you compare power to weight... 911 has 0.39 HP per kg and the Plaid 0.47 HP per kg... now the difference is not as big anymore
Porsche hp is different t than regular hp
That pdk and chassis tuning is godly
@@MrSupersaiyangoku damn bro, every thread you are defending your Dyson
Full braking from 250km/h and then not moving for minutes... the brakes must love it :D
6:07 - The reflection of the rotating wind turbine is a nice counterpoint to the flustered-ness of the scene, nicely done.
Most entertaining drag race I’ve ever watched. His fear was palpable! Cheers
Both of them boys looked super-scared specially impressed by take-off but coming super-hot like missiles then
over-cooking the brakes and see the runway ending 10 feet in front.. they both were blocked, pale & shaking.. yep was real ! ;0)
*Their fears
Goes to show how insanely well engineered Turbo S really is…. Would still pick the Turbo S myself
Everybody would, only the fanboys would pick the tesla
@@weed46 But VW fanboys wouldn't pick the Bug, or make excuses for why it lost? Gotcha
@@Mr1Tanker Because the bug isn't obviously flawed (actually in the other end of the spectrum) as the Tesla is.
Also I don't see "bug fanboys" saying going around selling "Tesla is the best car ever made" like they are selling their fanatic religion.
Anyway, I don't think I need to be here arguing how tesla has the worse fans, because that's like discussing if the sky is blue or pink.
I actually like their cars and the forward thinking atitude Tesla has, but I would never own a tesla simply to no be associated with their smug owners.
@@weed46 honestly the Tesla makes a lot of sense for non car people if they want something stupid fast. I just can’t believe it doubles as a grocery getter too. Like it’s actually insane to think about. You have a car you can bring to the drag strip that competes as well as getting groceries. But ICE tho, that vroom vroom noise never gets old. I want both lol
@@eyeyamjstn628 happy ending
Hi I love your drag races and your reviews but just one thing I would love if you would add the timing of the quarter mile
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@@asad-kc8zf Right??! I love the dynamics between them
I think the real takeaway from this, at least for me, is how god damn impressing that 911 Turbo is. My goodness, as if I didn't already dream about Porsches enough already! Haha
porsche is a glorified vw bug that has a niche group of blind followers that can't see it for what it is. I'm sure if that tesla said porsche on it you all would be worshipping it as well.
If the plaid had Porsche written on it, I'd still say it's time around the ring was pretty pathetic for 1000hp - barely much quicker than a Megane RS.
@@addictedtopussy69 you sound american
@@addictedtopussy69 xD will you ever understand that putting riddiculous amout of power into any car is simple as fuck and it means nothing if the car can't do much more than that? That's why taycan was better than model s - it looked better, was of much higher quality, was MUCH faster in the corners. And I would still take it any day(if I ddint have to pay for it ofc) over Plaid because speed is easy.
@@michapawowski2645 well said
After that last dragrace I was expecting James to say "Well the good news is I don't need to pee anymore."
💀 too funny
I love there reaction to the speed of the model S plaid and how it picks up speed and goes 😂😂
Er, the Tesla doesn't seem to be inspiring much confidence in the brakes department...
important thing is acceleration. you can always crash into a wall and stop but the car wont go faster by itself, it needs power for that. so brakes are irrelevant if you are a tesla chad
Yeah Thomas mentioned in the track test that the brakes are just not really up to the job of stopping the tubby Model S. Huge power, huge weight, not enough stopping power.
Mind you, it's probably good enough for most people as I can't think too many buyers will be tracking their Model S's.
I was so hoping for a braking test between all of the cars, but I guess I have to wait till Carwow has their video up ;)
Only cowards need breaks
Lmao that’s literally all people can say about it? Not “wow that’s fast” or “I’m impressed the plaid won” it’s always gotta be “ha ha Tesla sucks because _________”. I swear the “I hate tesla” people have gotten as impossible to talk to as the brainwashed tesla fanboys. People really just can’t say “plaid is impressive” and then leave it at that.
Insane power... but no brakes. Reminds me a bit the older American Muscle Cars...
Is it a mustang
"America's greatest Muscle car" - James May
way more extra weight
“We’re similar,we’re similar”
“We’re not similar”
I love James. :)
I swear Porsche Horsepower is like Kentucky derby winner horses
Props to the Tesla winning the drag race but I think it's really a win for the Porshe for being that close even if it has 450hp less than the Model S.
Hmmm u saw that the Porsche costs much more than a plaid right?? Not quite a W in my book.
@@roger3958 The porsche also stops and corners and the build quality is light years removed for the Teslas.
@@roger3958 Porsche still has W in handling W looks W interior W heritage
Ur not only buying it for speed, but also the assurance that ur car wont have panel gaps
@@roger3958 the porsche has proper brakes, and is already good for race corners like straight lines..... the porsche also has a 200+ mph top speed
@@roger3958 the porsche also comes with all wheel steering, carbon ceramic brakes, forged wheels..... the tesla has regular cheap cast wheels, garbage brakes....
The 911 is by far the most impressive car here, since compared to the other two, its not just a Dragster. It performs perfect everywhere.
Agreed. Teslas are a party trick. Will be obsolete in 5-10yrs. Specifically due to better battery technology. And the fun will wear off once even the planet huggers realize the pollution of trashing one of these huge battery banks.
Still. Quite fun to ride in!
@@thomasnew8606 tesla could release a car that didnt work and their stock would still go up, i dont think the government will ever let them fail
ah, but wait until they roll out their comparable car...
and having owned both cars... I still have the Tesla.🤣
@@oldrrocr You're probably American 😂
@@thepetrolman4879 TSLA SUCKS LOL
Takes 2 minutes to get that Plaid in race mode. 8 minutes for optimal heating of the batteries. Depending on how warm they already are. - Brooks from DragTimes.
The fact that there exists a 3500 hp tuned gtr💀 scares me more than I already am after watching this video
Wins car, takes 20k to upgrade brakes, suspension, and tires so I don’t die.
Yes. More people need to think like this 👍 hahah
Had the same thought hahaha
You won't, maybe someone outside
Barely anyone wins that omaze scam bro
the 20K is actually for the taxes you'll pay when you try to register it lol they don't tell you that.
That plaid was mind blowing...4800 lbs and it just hauls! I could tell those 1020 hp coming in right after it hit 80 and just started to pull!
@@xwin557x3 maybe, it has to be accessible to the general public first. We've had cool and amazing tech on cars for forever (like MGU-K in F1) but if it's not cheap and accessible I'm not sure what to do with it, you know?
Mind blowing for what? Throwing bunches of electrical motors? Lol. Hp has very minimal to do with acceleration Teslatroll. Brain less fanbasw
@@boycottwalton9718 Someones butthurt. Horsepower does matter a lot in terms of acceleration. Go ask every dragracer in the world. Go to TX2K or FL2K and all the 3000 hp cars there will prove you wrong.
@@thedumbconspirator4956 no kiddo. Get some knowledge before saying bs. It's torque which matters the most in acceleration. HP determine top speed not acceleration in the first place.
@@boycottwalton9718 no kiddo. You dont understand the difference. Torque applies to applications related to towing and hauling, that's why every truck and bus on god's green earth has a high torque engine while sports cars have a high hp engine. A 1075 lb-ft ram 3500 Cummins isn't gonna be running low 9s in the quarter-mile bud. Torque applies to low end acceleration, other than that hp is the ability to keep going and maintain that pull.
There's something about that steering wheel that just feels downright dangerous...
if you look at common steering wheels for Dragster, its similar
Just a gimmick
There’s a reason they only use them in f1 cars because they need very little input to turn but also safety during a crash they can remove them and or less likely to smash into other things also visibility
you should be an engineer for formula cars and let them know.
@@ItalianMetalHED we’ll that’s stupid since you’re not going over 150 mph in a 90 degree turn in a Tesla…
I think he wrecked that white seat in the tesla in a flat 2 seconds
Me: Honey LET'S GO!
Wife: I'll be down in 5 mins
Me: It's been 5 mins the last 13 mins. STOP TALKING IN TESLA MINS!
The 911 turbo S will never cease to amaze me, the fact that it only has 650 hp and pretty much held its own against a Plaid omg I’m impressed
It doesn’t. I assure you. I’ve raced many. It’s a very easy race to win.
@@MusclesAVS This guy drives a 3000hp Toyota Yaris, trust him
@Lawnyyy the fact that plaid is three times heavier and cost 70,000 dollars less that’s Porsche and still beats Porsche is amazing
1000lbs lighter and $100K more, so there's that.
@@MusclesAVS in Forza*
Surprising how the turbo s launched equally as fast as a top tier performance electric car!
Tires are the bottleneck, not power
@@romansenger2322 lmao moron plaid comes with nitto which is one of the best performance tires michelin makes
If the turbo s had 1000hp it would easily demolished the Tesla
@@hamzaelfaik5375 so in conclusion, when you buy a 2+2 seater sportscar double in price and put another 50k in it to get 1000hp you will end up beeing faster? Ok, but what do we learn from that?
@@romansenger2322
we learned that if there are corners on the track the porshe will win every single time. teslas are only good for drag race ... for now.
I would love to see a lap time for the model s. Given it’s weight and those breaking issues, I think the results would be interesting.
For lap times, you should probably equip the track-oriented brakes.
It would loose miserably thats why you see mostly drag races and not track races.
Why would it be? You already know the results. The model S is a 4 door sedan meant to haul people. Turbo S is a track car that is made for the street. That is a dumb ass question.
The absolute shock, and fear that they had is so genuine
Its definitely real lol
I’ve watched many drag races and this may actually have been the most enjoyable one so far! Good job guys. Your faces and reactions are priceless.
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Why? because they overreact?
The Plaid is too fast to not have good enough brakes, poor choice.
Should have better breaks, but most people won’t and shouldn’t drive it that fast on regular road conditions, you can’t blame the car for people driving 160-200km/h on the road (not autobahn of course). You can install them aftermarket, but you still reallyshouldnt have to do that, tesla needs to step up there game there
@@sadenuttie2234 You’re right however, it has 1000+ hp, they knew people would drive this fast. This is fastest production sedan ever and they give it shitty breaks!
@@limitedreach4446 They'll never fit enough brakes on this car. It weighs too much.
@@limitedreach4446 people should not be driving that fast on the road in any condition, it is dangerous and irresponsible and could kill other drivers, regardless if it had good brakes or not. Tesla should not be help accountable for people doing that. I think the main reason why it does not have amazing brakes is due to it being designed to be driven as a daily car, with great specs and acceleration (which you can use on the road safely), and it is designed to use primarily regenerative braking as a means of slowing down and stopping.
Anyway, just my take, they really should have better brakes though, of course there are safety concerns and it would just be a better all round car, but I think it is being made bigger a deal than it really is by elitist gatekeeping ICE fangirls, and I love ICE, I have a degree in mechanical engineering, it is just that I can respect both
He might not have had the re gen braking on full blast. When I let off the gas of the Plaid, it was like tossing an anchor out of the window.
U guys are the best car review channel anywhere! I really hope more people see ur channel!
I think better brakes, handling, and sound are a fair trade for a half second of 0-60 time.
A half second faster for a large family car with a big boot and 3 more usable back seats.
On the Nordschleife here in Germany the Plaid is slower than a Camaro ZL1 1LE. And the price from the Plaid is….you know. And by the way the Tesla looks sooooo boring.
@@Klausiphone I don't think the model s' target audience is people who track their cars.
@@Klausiphone noo are you serious? Is the 5000 pound family sedan not quicker around the nordschleife than a supercar?
And the look, interior and build quality.
But I've to say I don't have much sympathy towards Elon Musk in general, because he uses dubious methods for publicity and pushing the value of his companies to increase his own wealth, so I'm not fully objective. Tesla is worth as much as all other bigger car companies together while selling a microscopic fraction of cars, so Tesla would've to take over the whole market to live up to its market price, which he created with a cult of personality around him, getting many normal people into buying shares, giving wrong promises and pseudo-revolutionary features. Not everything is bad and he made some really cool stuff, but there are many things I don't like and he does them well knowing it will make him richer.
It’s insane how good of a launch the Porsche has considering it’s non electric
Now imagine if it had 1000hp as the Tesla
The Tesla would get Gaptized 🤣.. one with 870hp already beat the plaid by 3 to 4 cars
@Kevin Smith It will never get into Production Man. Accept the Fact that Porsche did real well. Bring the Plaid to a Racetrack and the Turbo S Will gap it lol.
@Kevin Smith you are one salty Tesla fan boy fam, it needs 400hp more to beat Porsche
@Kevin Smith The Plaid isn't a "superior vehicle" to the Turbo S. In acceleration yes, but the Porsche is still the superior car to a Plaid.
@Kevin Smith Imagine this, imagine that. The Roadster 2.0 is a fairly "tail". 1100hp gtr already gap the plaid. Go check it out on the tesla plaid channel..
It would've been nice if they had recorded times for these vehicles on this particular day!
I am thankful that you made the first drag race with out putting it to lunch mode with the 8 minutes wait so you can now how it will be in real life but a traffic light
Man those Tesla's are no freaking joke, my god.
Hopefully someday I can experience that.
No, they're poorly built one trick pony shit boxes. See if that thing can even go all the way around a track without breaking down or losing a wheel.
@@andrewdevine3920 Every ground breaking invention usually is, the first light bulbs only lasted a few seconds, but they changed everything. Just like Tesla is.
@@andrewdevine3920 oh here we go again
Get a test drive in one…..I did, and told the guy there is no way I can afford one, he laughed and said, man I work for Tesla and either can I! 😂
@@andrewdevine3920 Porsche is notoriously "famous" about its quality. Many people want to own a Porsche. But many when own a Porsche, they only want to get rid of it. They spend many months a year to fix a Porsche. Tesla is a sedan, it is still able to beat a Porsche. About "around a track", remind you it's a sedan, it doesn't need to be "around a track".
15 out of 10 people would take the 911, any day every day.
I see no lies...
I would take a stock gtr
Turbo S it is
No. I have the Plaid on order.
@@Jallu555 Outgunned by Turbo S in every category. Could be wrong, Nismo carries more power
That 911 turbo is just awsome and you dont have to wait 8 minutes , it stops and goes round corners too , what more do you want.
Best all around performer by a mile here.
But you have to warm up the engine
@@xzombiee867 Well yea if you doing drag racing at 6am on your way to work. Any other time naa dude
These Tesla Stans will defend their bloated under performing pig till they die lol. It is a one trick pony type of car. If Tesla made any effort to have an actual performance car I might be interested.
@@BigfootUnibrowMan Maybe in a thousand years we might get the second roadster they been going on about
I like to see a further more of 0-60 and 1/4 race. Actual race on a full track several laps and corners.
So a tuned 911 Turbo S with 1000 HP would WIN for sure !!
No it wouldn't. You still don't get it
It would destroy them like nothing
Just 800hp and it would win
Problem is no car manufacture produce 1000+ hp ICE cars.
And Tesla is mass producing model s plaid.
everything above 500hp is unreliable when it comes to ICE cars.
Look after new M-Models from BMW and AMG.
It’s last of their generation.
This is one of the reasons I’m not really a fan of racing modified cars against factory cars in comparisons. It sort of defeats the whole point to me, at least if we are comparing cars as they were meant to be. Once you start making significant changes to performance, it’s no longer really the same vehicle. It also becomes much harder to draw a line in the sand.
Most exciting race so far on Throttle House. Awesome job guys.
Geeze that tesla Model S Plaid is just 👏 amazing
You should do a track test for a model s plaid and a lucid air😌
The Tesla is heavily, heavily underbraked. I'm not sure how it passed régulation
I don't know why they don't have a more aggresive regenerative mode (kinda "drag" or "race" mode) which works on situations like this when you're hardly accelerating past a certain speed
How? Lol
it needs the massive 10 piston calipers from the Porsche
It passed regulations because those brakes are conpletly fine for road usage. You won't ever race your car like that on the road, which is why it passed regulations.
On the track however, this is super dangerous. Not sure who thought that this was fine
Plaid mode is for fun. Its not something you do on a regular street. Those rich enough to own one are probably smart enough to know this
I'd love it if y'all would put the quarter mile times up for these vids like y'all do with the lap times.
that's what carwow's for ;)
5:58 That was a smooth transition
This is one of the funniest videos I have seen in a very long time. 😂Seeing you faces: 👁️👁️break break break 😂 great video, keep them coming!
That 911 turbo:S is simply a beast.
Great video. Watching the CarWow's 911 Turbo S vs. the Taycan Turbo showed how insanely quick the 911 is. It would be interesting to see what the new Z06 does vs. the 911 Turbo S - but the latter will probably win, a more fair competition would be the new Z06 vs. the 911 GT3 RS.
I think the z06 would be a better match against a gt2rs
@@victorrosenbaum8588 Isn't the Gt2rs turbocharged? If so the GT3 seems the obvious contender.
@@BigfootUnibrowMan gt3 will get gapped hard ...it would be a great Track race tho . I think the c8 z06 will sit in between the gt3 rs and close to gt2rs on course and right behind the gt2 rs on the strip.
The GT3 RS is a track focused weapon, not a drag racer. I want Porsche to make a three motor Taycan and call it the Turbo GT to go against the Plaid in a straight line and around track.
This just goes to show exactly how well the Turbo S was engineered. It's got about 400 less horsepower than the Plaid, yet it's side by side on the launch and for a good portion of the race. The damn thing is a missile, and it's one of the best designed and manufactured cars ever in my opinion.
400kg lighter than the Tesla. It better get close! lol
Tesla is like Guitar Hero, the Porsche is like a 1960 Les Paul.
Yall should test the plaid vs the Lucid Air Sapphire. That would be a race
I know the Tesla is fast, but these guys make it look, and feel astronomical fast! Nice work gents
I mean it is the second fastest accelerating stock car
I have one. No sht thier reaction is real. When the car accelerates too fast. I don't feel fun. I just want to puke and I have to try so hard to maintain my foot on the gas.
@@Nathan-qt2zi it's uncomfortable to drive that fast
@@Nathan-qt2zi the first is Bugatti?
@@ghekaTV rimac
So basically a bugatti
My first time seeing a Turbo S loses… but still my favorite
Remember that thing has 650 hp
@@sabyasachiroy7482 Remember that it's much lighter.
@@sabyasachiroy7482 remember this is super car vs family
Plaid is insane but looking at the turbo with almost half the hp is still super impressive
And also normal engine so no instant power
Dont forget the weight difference, the understated Power from Porsche and the fact the Plaid has only above 1000hp which drops the faster it goes.
Its also a LOT lighter
And the Porsche is still the car I'd take
@@Shift4g that's good! If had the choice between the Turbo S and plaid I would go for the plaid, but if it was a GT3(RS), I would definitely take that.
THAT was fun! It only confirmed what Joe Rogan said: his Tesla Plaid made his Porsche 911 Turbo seem tame.
Those things are fast af. Rented one for a few days and it feels like you're floating. The roadster is more insane
The way Thomas was clutching onto the Plaid made it look like he was driving a Viper without TCS 😨
I hope u guys are still gonna be posting on Extra Throttle House too, not complaining of course I love both channels I was just wondering cause it's been a minute lol
You guys could do a lot of different stuff on extra throttle house.
E60 BMW M5 (2006)
5.0L V10 - 500 HP - 383 lb-ft
Audi RS6 (2003)
4.2L V8 (twin turbos) - 450 HP - 415 lb-ft
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG (2008)
6.2L V8 - 451 HP - 443 lb-ft
Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG (2003)
5.4L V8 (supercharged) - 469 HP - 516 lb-ft
Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG (2006)
6.0L V12 (twin turbos) - 604 HP - 738 lb-ft
SRT 8 Chrysler 300 (2006)
6.1L V8 - 425 HP - 420 lb-ft
Cadillac CTS-V (2010)
6.2L V8 (supercharged) - 556 HP - 551 lb-ft
Ford Mustang GT500 (2008)
5.4L V8 (supercharged) - 500 HP - 480 lb-ft
Ford Mustang GT500 (2014)
5.8L V8 (supercharged) - 662 HP - 631 lb-ft
Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 (2006)
7.0L V8 - 505 HP - 470 lb-ft
Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2009)
6.2L V8 (supercharged) - 638 HP - 604 lb-ft
*and for the main channel the C7 Corvette ZR1*
6.2L V8 (supercharged) - 772 HP - 715 lbs-ft
@@yangsrealm2536 I'd definitely watch a video on the 300 and the Camaro
Funny how scared Thomas looked for once! 😱 But I'm sure it was scary in person.
This is awesome!!
That plaid steering is outright scary…… no room for error and the kickback on that yoke is going to get some drivers into accidents
I toured the Zuffenhausen factory in 2011, awesome experience. Still loving my 996 C4S
I still would take the 911. Love the sound and performance of them.
$20 Says you can't afford to fix it either lol
@@floridajames04 can you 🥴
@@austensmith6857 nope that's why I don't own one.
@@floridajames04 people that buy these cars dont worry about fixing them, the have warranty which is something that you get with new cars, one day if you work really hard you will understand.
@@alexeisanjurjo7064 and what happens when then warranty is up? Lol
Can't wait for the Plaid VS. Taycan Turbo S vs. Lucid Air Sapphire drag race video 😍
I don't know what it is about the Porsches that makes them so fast but wow... as compared to a Plaid, really wow!
Its a 2 door sports car with decades of engineering, the Plaid is the fastest groceries getter ever made. If it wasn't this close I would be worried for Porsche.
This video seemed odd, the gap between the two cars while racing was small compared to how it normally is…
@@piksnapper Porsche doesn’t even care about quarter mile times a gt3 with 500 hp with a worse power to weight ratio than a Tesla model s plaid destroys the plaid around the Nurburgring by legit 40 secs quarter mile times aren’t everything the model s plaid had a better power to weight ratio than the 992 turbo s anyways
I want timings for every drag race !
Mid 9s for the tesla and low 9s for the guted one
They have said it before that they are more like street races. You can find numbers elsewhere.
There are a lot of car reviewers on RUclips. I think most of them do a pretty great job doing what they do, but the chemistry and humor these two have is unrivaled. They just make everything so much more fun and enjoyable to watch. I like SavageGeese for documentary like content. The straight pipes for casual stuff... but these guys. I watch these guys for a good time
@Trillian I really like The Topher for pov car reviews. Any Hagerty video with Jason Cammisa is worth watching. Doug Demuro does some pretty funny exotic car reviews. I watch throttle house and Topher more than anybody else. Doug is probably the third. The rest are interchangeable.
@Trillian no problem 🙌🏻
The one thing I learned from this is the plaid doesn’t have nearly enough breaks for the power it has.