That dude was probably one more powerslide away from passin out.. his expressions were pure gold! Good on him for lettin u have a go without interfering outta fear tho.
Nice to see a Charger on a track and not cutting off cars on the highway for once. Great straight line performance but in terms of handling I do believe some sport SUVs perform better. Also get this man some better tires!
Road and track runs lighting lap which compares many vehicles on Virginia international raceway. They ran the widebody charger hellcat which got a 2:59.8 which is 0.2 seconds slower than an m2 competition. A caynne turbo gets a 2:59.2 while an x5m competition got a 3:00.5. So it performs very similarly to a fast SUV.
We drove lately an m4 with Wintertires at 34°C. The car began to swim around at 150kph. Scary. New tires everything ok. This was a rental car but the tires chosen was not ok.
It’s good Stellantis retired this ancient overweight oversized oxcart of a car. These motors also drop valve seats and otherwise often self destruct just out of warranty. A friend is a mechanic for a local police department and hates these cars as they’re always breaking in one way or another.
It wasn’t stock brakes. He said he put hawk pads in it. Said he changed it for lower brake dust which really means the pads are hard af and meant for street driving and not 150mph braking. Brembo pads are dusty because they are soft and meant to grip the discs
Kevin needs a mouth guard when he rides with Misha next time, i think he was trying to assist braking by clenching his jaw tight... The tension in the mans body ... watch how stiff he got when he grabs the "oh shi...oot handle" @9:33. That said, he did it like a champ!!! ... not being used to race line and race corners at speed will make anyone "clench".
As a person who has taken my SRT Challenger out on Road Atlanta and was an absolute nervous wreck, much respect to everything in this video. Insane driving skills constantly shown no matter what you drive.
@@freddybell8328 true that you couldnt pay me enough to own one of their vehicles.. a friend of mine had a jag and that thing was literally broken down more times than he had it on the road.... that charger wasnt even nowhere near track ready and it did well considering the breaks and tires..
I've never been so worried during a run. Misha's skills are impeccable but the suspension on those things are rubbish for tracking. The look on the owners face says it all! Much respect to Misha for quickly addressing the shortcomings of the vehicle and knowing it's limits!
@@YungEagle3k rotors and calipers are fine but the owner installed a brake pad that’s less aggressive than even the stock ones to reduce brake dust buildup. I imagine Misha wouldn’t have had as much to say about the brakes if it still had the brembo pads that came from factory. Misha seemed to enjoy the added challenge though
As a Scat Pack owner, this was great to watch, and see how well it might do on the ‘Ring. Not sure if I’d be as brave as this fellow :). Great fun, thanks for doing this one!
been subscribed for some years now and i always love when people let misha drive their cars and then they are so surprised at what their car can do in competent hands lol
I never focussed more on the passengers face than on this video, he didn't know what he was in for. But great to see him handling it in such a calm manner and let Misha do his thing ;)
Great video: every time I drive one of these cars I’m impressed by their performance potential. They’re absolutely a blast, and a joy to drive. While they are heavy they do handle in an extremely fun and predictable manner. This video is simply proof of that with no trickery.
Never have I seen so much fear in a man! The seat belt check and then grabbing the handle 😂 Then there's Misha, while sending it sideways at 100mph he's laughing but cool and undercontrol. Fantastic skill showcase Misha.👏👍
just under 9 mins with those tires isnt bad at all! seemed slippery like a soap bar a couple of times but Misha handled it nicely. enjoyed the lap, nice to see and hear a hemi on the ring! nice driving and thanks for the uploads
Why do you actually hate these cars so much? No vehicle gets more hate than this and I'm not buying the normal excuses. Is it the people who buy them? No disrespect intended of course, everyone has their right to an opinion but these cars get a disproportionately large amount of hate. I don't believe it has as much to do with the vehicle itself as people say it does. Even if it isn't something really incredible.
@@bigdawg77Dodge never made the Charger or Challenger to be Track Toys, they have always been Drag since the 70s, that’s why they never cared about the weight, just more power. As far as the hate though, it’s really the takeovers that did it, and the RUclips Dodge community and the way some of these guys treat their cars is absolutely nuts. These cars in the states are also known to run from Police all the time
They didn't specify average fuel consumption which could be using data from who knows how long ago and also when not accelerating. When accelerating it went down to 2mpg, and 2mpg is 2mpg.
I had a Gen 1 Mazdaspeed that averaged 7MPG running HPDE's at VIR, so 12MPG looks pretty good, but that 12 includes some street driving, obviously. Since Nurburg is a very big, fast track, they probably really averaged 5 to 8 MPG on this run.
@@commiellama how many mpgs do cars, an average, get at max power. So if max power output happens at 6k rpm (, then what is the average mpg at this RPM? you gotta answer that question to know if you are right bubba :) Confident and dumb lmfao 😂 2mpgs is 2mpgs HAHAHHHAAHAAH
Love the variety of cars you've been driving, Misha. It's a shame Europe didn't get the current gen Mustang GT350...6 speed, 8,250rpm redline V8, and good suspension geometry!
The whole time this guy is thining to himself: "OMG!...WTF?!... I REGRET EVERYTHING!!!" Lol.. good sport. I felt terrified sitting at home watching it.. can't imagine what it must be like in the passenger seat Lol. Great driving Misha!
That was such a brilliant few comments from the owner, hope you took him out in something else to really get to know how fast & fun the track is, Rj in Oz
Of note is the discipline and ability to adapt driving to the needs and characteristics of the car. I picked up that throttle application from mid-corners, especially tighter ones, generally became much more gradual after Misha learned of the tendency to spin up the rears when the power was applied more aggressively than the tires could handle. This is a fun series, watching a very experienced driver operate different cars. Well Done.
Most entertaining!! The owner was sure he would never see his car in one piece again and maybe himself also. Misha's driving and analysis skills really shone - a great demonstration of driving at the limit in an unknown car.
Feel like the tires really held back any possibility for a solid looking run, it would be even more important because of the cars weight to have some stickier tires.
I loved watching him from "the car can show this and that..." to "pls don't kill me" XD Awesome showcase how important good tires, for this purpose, are.
It's popular to downgrade brake performance for less brake dust on these cars. If the owner had stuck with the stock Brembo pads it would have performed better.
LOL the owner is so freaked out throughout this video. How fun to watch his face?! LOL. Dude, trust this professional driver. Haha. He's driven all types of car sizes, engine size, weight, power, etc.... he knows what to expect when he's behind the wheel of your specific type of car. Great video.
Man, the way it was sliding the first few corners i was pretty certain youll be taking it easy. But dude you still went all out to the edge most of the time. Respect, thats some skill/feeling for cars, going 200 through a corner with these terrible tyres, you really need precision tactile sense, heck all 5 senses.
The owner was so scared but I think he started enjoying it towards the end! What a great video! I would love to see this again with the CORRECT tires on the car!
@@Tential1 Ha.. I'm glad he wasn't. Ha.. Cars that are really setup for 1/4, especially American cars, are really just terrible for the track... It's not just brakes/tires too, it's the whole package, the front/rear balance as well (I'm American, and hit the track often in the US) Misha was also kind. He doesn't want to be too honest, when people love their own cars so much. He's a nice guy. For a Challenger, A. the front/rear tire size ratio gives way too much grip to the front, vs rear. B. the brake size and likely the master cylinder as well, would need to be larger, and more setup for more frequent braking from high speeds. C. I would bet there's no air flow ducting to the brakes too, from the factory. You don't need it straight line, 1/4.. D. I'll bet the suspension geometry, also doesn't give good camber in squat, and 100%, the rear for a challenger will have no camber change in squat, because that would be terrible for 1/4. This is something that you just can't fix by just giving it more camber. I could go on, but I'll stop there because I can feel my comments won't land well.. They are outstanding sounding cars.. But what makes a car really fast in the 1/4 mile, makes it terrible on a circuit, and visa versa.. and a Challenger, is outstanding in the 1/4 mile.. It needs only a little to be faster in the 1/4 mile, but needs way way more done to it to be good on a circuit.. If somebody does go the length, 100%, it would be very very cool...
@@Leshic2 these cars aren’t meant for handling anything lmaoo even with the “widebody” it’s heavier than the narrow and you still can’t do anything with those tires 😂 spin off the line all day lol but for a straight like they’re ok but against decent competition not really
I have a challenger scat pack that I have run at a few track days. When I got to a new circuit I asked an instructor to ride with me to help figure out the track quickly. The instructor was actually white knuckled, in a good way, and said he couldn’t believe how well my big old boat was handling on the track and really couldn’t give me any advice to go any faster. I definitely think the right driver and the right setup can at least make the challenger scat pack a decent car on a circuit. I personally feel a huge difference between the challenger and the charger. The chargers are built to slip and slide more like a drift car. BTW the passenger’s saucer eyes and dead stare had me laughing out loud, for real! 🤣
_"Please don't kill me..."_ - 3/4 of Misha's passengers 🤣 At least he didn't whine the whole way like some do, so props for that 👍 He has a nice setup going for sporty driving (within his speed comfort zone, based on his comments), shame about the brakes and the tyres tho
I run Pilot Sport 4S tires and they are game changers for grip. I may go to the Cup 2'S next set tho. As for the brakes, he just needs to go back to the stock pads. People hate the brake dust, and there's deffinately a lot of it from stock pads, but when I went ceramic the braking was way off from stock. So I went back to stock. They are much dirtier, but the brembo pads work fenominally.
@@VETTE_Drummer What size tyres do you run, and did you ever run Conti Premium Contact 6 in that size? If yes, how do they compare? I haven't had the chance to try PS4S yet and I'm curious...
@@grimmig13 right now I have 305's on all 4 corners. My first set I went from the stock P-Zero's to 295 pilot sport 4S's and recently went to 305/35 ZR20 4S's all the way around. Each time the car got better. Haven't tried the Conti's yet. I think my next set I want to go for the Cup 2's being that I don't drive the car a ton, so I could make that high performance of a tire last longer... fingers crossed lol
Handles like a 70's muscle car for sure. The look on that guys face is priceless. Glad he gave you the car so you could share with us. More of these "scary" videos please but be safe :)
Hi MiSHA Woo Hoo.. abit of woopsa-daisy at the wheel driving the Yank tank around th'Ring... heh heh 😁 the look on the owners face ! Great for doing drag strip quarter mile runs but definitely Needs improvements in tyres & brake Performance to make it suitable for the Nurburgrung. I know you have high esteem for the new Chevy Corvette when you took it for a spin in the track. Be interesting to see what you think of Shmees new Ford GT500 Shelby 'Stang when he brings it to Nurburgrung?? Love Ya Work dude 💕 GODbless & ava Gday 🙂
Really fun to watch. I would love to see the car get a set of good breaks and tires and you to go at it again to see what kind of difference it would be. Like really how mutch to really breaks and tires mean. Alot of people dont know until they either experience it or see it for themself. Got to love Kevin :D Misha " We are weeeell within safety margins " ....... Kevin " Goodbye word!! "
This was entertaining to watch, I drove plenty of these Scatpack Chargers, and a hellcat. They are fast, not really meant to be track cars, but nice to see the characteristics and handling on a track setting! Also in Europe too! LOL! 😆😆 Can't wait till I get mine!!! Great video!
I rented one of these in Colorado that was on the all seasons. Seriously fun car, but needs brakes, stainless lines, tires, springs or possibly coils, and an alignment, but power wise? Wasn't half bad. Intake, set of long tubes headers, a tune and a bit of weight reduction and that chassis would have shined. My biggest gripe was the driving position, no matter how I moved the seat I felt like I was sitting to high. Gripes aside, seriously it was a ton of fun thrashing through the mountains with one.
This car was properly driven very fast. No matter how good we normal people think we are at driving, it takes a pro to show us that we are really slow. Yes, any fool can drive one of these cars fast in a straight line, but the road course tells the tale of greatness.
Misha you are a beast and my #1 idol on this entire planet much love from Australia He found the raggedy edge of the cars limit and held it there the entire time
This is one of the funniest videos I’ve seen in a long time! The owners reactions were priceless! Seems like the driver wasn’t a big fan of the scat pack, but I love these cars. We need a track like the Nurburgring in every state in the United States!
I think misha drove a bit recklessly. He was very lucky in certain situations and it could have bad very easily. It’s the first time driving the owners car as well. Overconfident.
He drove it like he was behind the wheel of a M3 or something. That car, even with all seasons, will handle MUCh better on the Ring than what he showed. He really needs to learn how to drive such a heavy car.
I love when people put garbage pads on their car to stop brake dust. Brake dust means that your brakes are working, no brake dust means your brakes aren’t doing anything. 🤦🏻
Low dust pads does not mean garbage, for example Endless MX72 is a low dust pad and it works on track very well. I can tell you my brakes are doing ALOT for me. The MX72 is better than the terrible stock pads that my old STI had, those generated a TON of brake dust and the Endless MX72 stops better and generates significantly less brake dust.
@@typerfk8 I’m sorry, with all due respect you do not know what you are talking about if that’s your comment. The only time low dust or no dust means you have brakes is when you have CCBs. Standard steel rotors need highly abrasive high dust pads. Low dust, means there is no material being used as friction to slow the car. Your brakes may work ok, but if you put a high dust, abrasive pad on you will notice incredible increase in performance.
@@joey7253 I don't know what I'm talking about? WHERE ARE YOU VIDEOS OF DRIVING YOUR CAR ON TRACK THEN? I don't see any of that from you. You can see from my track videos that my brakes WORK extremely well and don't even fade. Endless makes some of the best brake pads available in the market. You don't even know that Endless has the best braking system products available. Best fluid (RF650) as well. And NO putting on a high dust pad won't improve anything for me. My brakes work extremely well not just "ok". They already bite hard enough to literally give someone a bruise from the seatbelt if I jam on them real quick and I have steel rotors (AP racing jhooks). Your claim "no material is being used" is BS, my brake pads wear down just like any other brake pad just there is significantly less dust. They are incredible on track and street and they don't cake my wheels in brake dust. I will keep using my MX72s.
Awesome driving I love seeing Dodge charger scat packs driven like that it makes me inspired to go to some of the tracks I have in California like Willow springs international raceway
Very entertaining lap!!! I have a friend that just sold his scatpac challenger. It had been to Petty Enterprises in Randleman NC USA - left with Magnuson supercharger and 600 WHP. Ran a squared 315 tire setup. That car was a lot of fun! Dodge did a very good job with the transmission programming. The 8 spd is stupid quick in shifts but the car doesn’t handle the tight stuff very well. He went with me to tail of the dragon. I didn’t ride with him as I was driving my C6Z. The two cars are similar is acceleration but that about it.
the widebody package handles very well for a big sedan. I drove my buddies widebody 392 and was surprised by the way it handled. You will defiantly come out of corners fast in that bad boy.
Was wondering who the hell would bring that beast to the ring on all-seasons. I then saw the stache and it all made sense. The guy was a great sport for sure!
Still pretty impressive that Misha needs only few corners to go as fast as he does with a car he does not know. Can’t wait for the 2nd lap with better tyres!
Pilot Sport Cup tires make a massive difference in grip on these cars. Brake pads, EBC, Centric, Stoptech, Powerstop, Carbotech (if you can find ones that fit), all better options than the factory or Hawk pads.
I love how all the excitement and enthusiasm left the cabin when he got passed by another car. (he was like "schweinehund!!!") 🤣🤣 tried lamely to catch up with the guy to no avail...
I have this exact same car. The Pirelli All Season tires are horrific. Cant even grip the street, let alone the track. That's some baller driving skills.
Kevin has put good tires and brakes on the car and we did another lap: ruclips.net/video/bxkdXs_B3G0/видео.html
came back to see what it was like on these tires before watching the new one!
And new underwear
That dude was probably one more powerslide away from passin out.. his expressions were pure gold! Good on him for lettin u have a go without interfering outta fear tho.
hahahaaaa Yes
He was white as a ghost!
Lol, he was close. I was waiting for him to ask him to slow down.
@@TheSonicVoid yeah, me too. He said "pls don't kill me" somewhere in between
Well, today it happened when I saw this right in brünnchen...
Nice to see a Charger on a track and not cutting off cars on the highway for once. Great straight line performance but in terms of handling I do believe some sport SUVs perform better. Also get this man some better tires!
LMAOOOOO
Porsche cayenne would probably smoke it on the track. Same with macan. But what do I know. I'm dumb
Looking at that driving reminds me of my commute in Chicago. Standard Mopar driving there lol
Road and track runs lighting lap which compares many vehicles on Virginia international raceway. They ran the widebody charger hellcat which got a 2:59.8 which is 0.2 seconds slower than an m2 competition. A caynne turbo gets a 2:59.2 while an x5m competition got a 3:00.5. So it performs very similarly to a fast SUV.
@@memememine1 I think CT5-V blackwing hit sub 2:50 laptime with automatic in full auto mode
2tons, cold all season tires....that will get your heart pumping lol
Cold? They melt already after few corners lol.
We drove lately an m4 with Wintertires at 34°C. The car began to swim around at 150kph. Scary. New tires everything ok. This was a rental car but the tires chosen was not ok.
Heavy car is not always a disadvantage, look at a GTR. But allweather tyres and rear wheel drive is for sure. He did it good 🤙
@bfromthea7663they come like that from the factory but yes he should change them LoL
It’s good Stellantis retired this ancient overweight oversized oxcart of a car. These motors also drop valve seats and otherwise often self destruct just out of warranty. A friend is a mechanic for a local police department and hates these cars as they’re always breaking in one way or another.
I love how the Average MPG drops from 15.5 down to 12.7 when they finish... That was fantastic for being on all-season tires and stock brakes...
And the instantaneous went to 2mpg in some sections!!
Its a car that you should never buy with the current fuel prices!
@@kokoscom smiles per gallon
Aint Shit stock about Brembos kiddo
It wasn’t stock brakes. He said he put hawk pads in it. Said he changed it for lower brake dust which really means the pads are hard af and meant for street driving and not 150mph braking. Brembo pads are dusty because they are soft and meant to grip the discs
Never seen someone so scared of their own car being driven fast. Lol.
It's obvious 🤷🏼♂️
Even if Misha CAN drive, because he's experienced with racing blablabla, I would still be afraid if he drove my "shitbox" 🤭
My grandma when the car goes over 80kmh she thinks its 300kmh,if you go over she probably get a hear attack.
@@Panos-pr2ws hahah
Poor grandma 🤭
Looknat the vid when he drives the murcielago. That dude almost cries😅😅
Kevin needs a mouth guard when he rides with Misha next time, i think he was trying to assist braking by clenching his jaw tight... The tension in the mans body ... watch how stiff he got when he grabs the "oh shi...oot handle" @9:33.
That said, he did it like a champ!!! ... not being used to race line and race corners at speed will make anyone "clench".
would love to see misha have a go again in this thing with good tires and some brakes. great driving misha.
Tires are and brakes are on the way
@@kevinkotrola3856 awesome!
@@kevinkotrola3856 thanks for letting him drive your car.
This is gold.
You should ask him to go again with better tires and brakes and to give his honest thoughts on driving dynamics
@@syedalishah6854 he responded. its the first reply in this thread.
Very entertaining lap! Especially the expression of panic on Kevins face :)
As a person who has taken my SRT Challenger out on Road Atlanta and was an absolute nervous wreck, much respect to everything in this video. Insane driving skills constantly shown no matter what you drive.
If you've ever wondered what an ice-skating elephant feels like then now we know. Entertaining for sure.
At least it won't be in the shop 24/7 like a British car lmao
@@freddybell8328 true that you couldnt pay me enough to own one of their vehicles.. a friend of mine had a jag and that thing was literally broken down more times than he had it on the road.... that charger wasnt even nowhere near track ready and it did well considering the breaks and tires..
AMG power
@@freddybell8328 these cars are notorious for breaking down. Dodge is rubbish over here in the states.
That's fitting because Hemis were known as Elephant Engines in the 60s
I've never been so worried during a run. Misha's skills are impeccable but the suspension on those things are rubbish for tracking. The look on the owners face says it all! Much respect to Misha for quickly addressing the shortcomings of the vehicle and knowing it's limits!
I would like to see another go around with some good tires on this car
So all it really needs is a good set of brake pads and a real set of tires and it wouldn't be a bad car on the track. Awesome driving Misha.
Brakes are fine
@@YungEagle3k brakes are good just tires
@@YungEagle3k rotors and calipers are fine but the owner installed a brake pad that’s less aggressive than even the stock ones to reduce brake dust buildup. I imagine Misha wouldn’t have had as much to say about the brakes if it still had the brembo pads that came from factory. Misha seemed to enjoy the added challenge though
As well as suspension
@@teldaewick4747 he didn't mention much about the suspension needing work though.
As a Scat Pack owner, this was great to watch, and see how well it might do on the ‘Ring. Not sure if I’d be as brave as this fellow :). Great fun, thanks for doing this one!
Go watch the mustang vid… that’ll make you second guess your purchase. I drive a Honda though so I have no place to talk. I just love mustangs is all.
been subscribed for some years now and i always love when people let misha drive their cars and then they are so surprised at what their car can do in competent hands lol
Interesting to see a Scatty Pack on the NOS instead of at your local 4 way intersection participating in a ‘street takeover’ event.
a few days before being repoed
I never focussed more on the passengers face than on this video, he didn't know what he was in for. But great to see him handling it in such a calm manner and let Misha do his thing ;)
Great video: every time I drive one of these cars I’m impressed by their performance potential. They’re absolutely a blast, and a joy to drive. While they are heavy they do handle in an extremely fun and predictable manner. This video is simply proof of that with no trickery.
Never have I seen so much fear in a man! The seat belt check and then grabbing the handle 😂
Then there's Misha, while sending it sideways at 100mph he's laughing but cool and undercontrol. Fantastic skill showcase Misha.👏👍
Love it! Misha is an amazing driver! He shows anything can be driven fast with the right driver and skills. 👍🏽
just under 9 mins with those tires isnt bad at all! seemed slippery like a soap bar a couple of times but Misha handled it nicely. enjoyed the lap, nice to see and hear a hemi on the ring! nice driving and thanks for the uploads
I appreciate the American folk bringing some different cars here
It’s crazy how many of these cars I see here in the States on a daily basis. They almost never get pushed to their limit like in this video.
@@alivenumber5Too many undercovers man, not worth
@@alivenumber5we hardly have any places to take them
I don’t usually like boat videos. But I like your channel. So I’ll give it a go.
Why do you actually hate these cars so much? No vehicle gets more hate than this and I'm not buying the normal excuses. Is it the people who buy them?
No disrespect intended of course, everyone has their right to an opinion but these cars get a disproportionately large amount of hate. I don't believe it has as much to do with the vehicle itself as people say it does. Even if it isn't something really incredible.
@@bigdawg77Dodge never made the Charger or Challenger to be Track Toys, they have always been Drag since the 70s, that’s why they never cared about the weight, just more power. As far as the hate though, it’s really the takeovers that did it, and the RUclips Dodge community and the way some of these guys treat their cars is absolutely nuts. These cars in the states are also known to run from Police all the time
@@bigdawg77These cars are also dirt cheap
Uh no they are not
What scares me even more than these tyres is fuel consumption :D 2 mpg is 117l/100km :D
it actually was down to 12.6mpg (18.6l per 100kms)at the end of the lap, not 2mpg ^^
They didn't specify average fuel consumption which could be using data from who knows how long ago and also when not accelerating. When accelerating it went down to 2mpg, and 2mpg is 2mpg.
I had a Gen 1 Mazdaspeed that averaged 7MPG running HPDE's at VIR, so 12MPG looks pretty good, but that 12 includes some street driving, obviously. Since Nurburg is a very big, fast track, they probably really averaged 5 to 8 MPG on this run.
@@commiellama 2mpg at full pull is expected in a performance car.
@@commiellama how many mpgs do cars, an average, get at max power. So if max power output happens at 6k rpm (, then what is the average mpg at this RPM? you gotta answer that question to know if you are right bubba :) Confident and dumb lmfao 😂 2mpgs is 2mpgs HAHAHHHAAHAAH
First trimmer here and all I know is that man can drive and knows what he's talking about. Subscribed 👍
Love the variety of cars you've been driving, Misha. It's a shame Europe didn't get the current gen Mustang GT350...6 speed, 8,250rpm redline V8, and good suspension geometry!
We have some New Shelby's there in Poland. Don't know if they are officialy sold but drive out there, and you can rent one.
My heart genuinely raced a little at 7:37. ..that tiny slide, and Misha just about brushing the grass.
The whole time this guy is thining to himself: "OMG!...WTF?!... I REGRET EVERYTHING!!!"
Lol.. good sport.
I felt terrified sitting at home watching it.. can't imagine what it must be like in the passenger seat Lol. Great driving Misha!
We have the same red interior….Can’t believe I have Two ScatPacks🐝 🏎💯 They are sooooo much fun!!!!
I love how snor-man constantly looks as if his life is flashing before his eyes.
Love that guy's reactions. Perfect balance of joy and terror. Great video.
That was such a brilliant few comments from the owner, hope you took him out in something else to really get to know how fast & fun the track is, Rj in Oz
As a charger owner…. I’m thoroughly impressed. There’s no chance I’d ever do that with mine, but that guy can drive.
Lol he is scared because he knows that thing is a hog and meant to cruise on highways not the ring. Love it.
And unnecessary risks being taken. Lol.
@@_Bryant.R unnecessary risks? C'mon man it's a race track. If you want to avoid all 'unnecessary risks" sell your car and walk.
@@tmmtmm my mistake, thought it was during a Touristenfahrten session (when it's a public road).
@@tmmtmm check out his latest video.
Actually meant for the drag strip
Of note is the discipline and ability to adapt driving to the needs and characteristics of the car. I picked up that throttle application from mid-corners, especially tighter ones, generally became much more gradual after Misha learned of the tendency to spin up the rears when the power was applied more aggressively than the tires could handle. This is a fun series, watching a very experienced driver operate different cars. Well Done.
Big up for the owner. That takes a lot of trust and dealing with your own nightmares =D
As a 6.4L narrow body owner this was fun to watch. First time on your channel, would like to see a hellcat
That “woah” and nervous laugh at 8:42 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Most entertaining!! The owner was sure he would never see his car in one piece again and maybe himself also. Misha's driving and analysis skills really shone - a great demonstration of driving at the limit in an unknown car.
Feel like the tires really held back any possibility for a solid looking run, it would be even more important because of the cars weight to have some stickier tires.
This was an emotional rollercoaster for Kevin from the start. I loved every moment of it. Thanks to both of you.
Misha can whip anything around the track, even this land yacht on all season tires lol
As he mentioned, the guy who used hell cat red eye for pikes peak 4:20 is Randy Pobst. There are several videos for that. He is an awesome guy
I loved watching him from "the car can show this and that..." to "pls don't kill me" XD
Awesome showcase how important good tires, for this purpose, are.
That Dodge did not want to go around the track but you showed who's boss. Excellent driving Misha!
It's popular to downgrade brake performance for less brake dust on these cars. If the owner had stuck with the stock Brembo pads it would have performed better.
LOL the owner is so freaked out throughout this video. How fun to watch his face?! LOL. Dude, trust this professional driver. Haha. He's driven all types of car sizes, engine size, weight, power, etc.... he knows what to expect when he's behind the wheel of your specific type of car. Great video.
finally, Charger on a track instead of on a highway
Straight line speed like a monster
Handling like a Toyota Sienna
😂😂😂😂
Man, the way it was sliding the first few corners i was pretty certain youll be taking it easy. But dude you still went all out to the edge most of the time. Respect, thats some skill/feeling for cars, going 200 through a corner with these terrible tyres, you really need precision tactile sense, heck all 5 senses.
Imagine going 150mph and the driver says "the brakes are not to good"😮😅😢
The owner was so scared but I think he started enjoying it towards the end! What a great video! I would love to see this again with the CORRECT tires on the car!
Nice to see you driving something a bit wayward man. Great car control. All in a morning's work for you though.
I’m impressed at the handling honestly it took corners better than i thought
Never thought I’d see a Scat-Pack on your channel Misha. I have a Challenger Scat-Pack with the 6-speed manual transmission.
I wish he was driving a challenger.
@@Tential1 Ha.. I'm glad he wasn't. Ha..
Cars that are really setup for 1/4, especially American cars, are really just terrible for the track...
It's not just brakes/tires too, it's the whole package, the front/rear balance as well
(I'm American, and hit the track often in the US)
Misha was also kind.
He doesn't want to be too honest, when people love their own cars so much. He's a nice guy.
For a Challenger,
A. the front/rear tire size ratio gives way too much grip to the front, vs rear.
B. the brake size and likely the master cylinder as well, would need to be larger, and more setup for more frequent braking from high speeds.
C. I would bet there's no air flow ducting to the brakes too, from the factory. You don't need it straight line, 1/4..
D. I'll bet the suspension geometry, also doesn't give good camber in squat, and 100%, the rear for a challenger will have no camber change in squat, because that would be terrible for 1/4. This is something that you just can't fix by just giving it more camber.
I could go on, but I'll stop there because I can feel my comments won't land well..
They are outstanding sounding cars..
But what makes a car really fast in the 1/4 mile, makes it terrible on a circuit, and visa versa..
and a Challenger, is outstanding in the 1/4 mile..
It needs only a little to be faster in the 1/4 mile, but needs way way more done to it to be good on a circuit..
If somebody does go the length, 100%, it would be very very cool...
@@Leshic2 these cars aren’t meant for handling anything lmaoo even with the “widebody” it’s heavier than the narrow and you still can’t do anything with those tires 😂 spin off the line all day lol but for a straight like they’re ok but against decent competition not really
This is by far the best video of driving a car on a track the way you do your camera angles and use three cameras pretty awesome.
Do not worry, Pal, we are running with a wide safety margin. Meanwhile, Misha fights physics and sets a new lap record for that car.
Misha is King!
One of your best clips yet, the look on the owners face is priceless.
love this car,it will push you to upgrade your driving skill
I have a challenger scat pack that I have run at a few track days. When I got to a new circuit I asked an instructor to ride with me to help figure out the track quickly. The instructor was actually white knuckled, in a good way, and said he couldn’t believe how well my big old boat was handling on the track and really couldn’t give me any advice to go any faster. I definitely think the right driver and the right setup can at least make the challenger scat pack a decent car on a circuit. I personally feel a huge difference between the challenger and the charger. The chargers are built to slip and slide more like a drift car.
BTW the passenger’s saucer eyes and dead stare had me laughing out loud, for real! 🤣
That was one floaty lil boat ride! 🤣
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Man! This was great… to see you handle this car on poor tire conditions! Damn that was good!!
_"Please don't kill me..."_ - 3/4 of Misha's passengers 🤣
At least he didn't whine the whole way like some do, so props for that 👍
He has a nice setup going for sporty driving (within his speed comfort zone, based on his comments), shame about the brakes and the tyres tho
well, there are plenty of good tyres available and there are companies which will help you with the brakes ;)
I run Pilot Sport 4S tires and they are game changers for grip. I may go to the Cup 2'S next set tho. As for the brakes, he just needs to go back to the stock pads. People hate the brake dust, and there's deffinately a lot of it from stock pads, but when I went ceramic the braking was way off from stock. So I went back to stock. They are much dirtier, but the brembo pads work fenominally.
@@VETTE_Drummer What size tyres do you run, and did you ever run Conti Premium Contact 6 in that size? If yes, how do they compare? I haven't had the chance to try PS4S yet and I'm curious...
@@grimmig13 right now I have 305's on all 4 corners. My first set I went from the stock P-Zero's to 295 pilot sport 4S's and recently went to 305/35 ZR20 4S's all the way around. Each time the car got better. Haven't tried the Conti's yet. I think my next set I want to go for the Cup 2's being that I don't drive the car a ton, so I could make that high performance of a tire last longer... fingers crossed lol
Handles like a 70's muscle car for sure. The look on that guys face is priceless. Glad he gave you the car so you could share with us. More of these "scary" videos please but be safe :)
If you drove a 70’s muscle car like this you would’ve been dead within 3 corners
Hi MiSHA
Woo Hoo.. abit of woopsa-daisy
at the wheel driving the Yank tank around th'Ring...
heh heh 😁 the look on the owners face !
Great for doing drag strip quarter mile runs but
definitely Needs improvements in tyres & brake Performance to make it suitable for the Nurburgrung.
I know you have high esteem for the new Chevy Corvette when you took it for a spin in the track. Be interesting to see what you think of Shmees new Ford GT500 Shelby 'Stang when he brings it to Nurburgrung??
Love Ya Work dude 💕
GODbless & ava Gday 🙂
Really fun to watch.
I would love to see the car get a set of good breaks and tires and you to go at it again to see what kind of difference it would be. Like really how mutch to really breaks and tires mean. Alot of people dont know until they either experience it or see it for themself.
Got to love Kevin :D Misha " We are weeeell within safety margins " ....... Kevin " Goodbye word!! "
*brakes, *brakes...it's BRAKES man...Come on!🤣🤣🤣
For a stock car on street tires, that was pretty damn good.
This was entertaining to watch, I drove plenty of these Scatpack Chargers, and a hellcat. They are fast, not really meant to be track cars, but nice to see the characteristics and handling on a track setting! Also in Europe too! LOL! 😆😆 Can't wait till I get mine!!! Great video!
I rented one of these in Colorado that was on the all seasons. Seriously fun car, but needs brakes, stainless lines, tires, springs or possibly coils, and an alignment, but power wise? Wasn't half bad. Intake, set of long tubes headers, a tune and a bit of weight reduction and that chassis would have shined. My biggest gripe was the driving position, no matter how I moved the seat I felt like I was sitting to high. Gripes aside, seriously it was a ton of fun thrashing through the mountains with one.
He was definitely prairie doggin the whole ride 🤣😂
Looking like an American with those guns Misha 💪
Those are muscles, not fat 😜
@@frog382 HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
(I'm a fat American)
People talk shit about the scat pack but it's still a hell of a car and very fun
Passenger thought he was going to die today ☠
Im actually so lucky for him 2 experience that.. for real hes scared but enjoyed it at the same time..
Er wird im nachhinein so glücklich darüber sein
It would be interesting to see what it would be like with better tyres and brake pads.
This car was properly driven very fast. No matter how good we normal people think we are at driving, it takes a pro to show us that we are really slow. Yes, any fool can drive one of these cars fast in a straight line, but the road course tells the tale of greatness.
Need to get Misha in a Hellcat (just for the entertainment factor)
Haha yeeesss
Misha you are a beast and my #1 idol on this entire planet much love from Australia
He found the raggedy edge of the cars limit and held it there the entire time
Good learning curve on setting up a flying brick for the track
very dangerous, i want more
+1 🤘🏼
This is one of the funniest videos I’ve seen in a long time! The owners reactions were priceless! Seems like the driver wasn’t a big fan of the scat pack, but I love these cars. We need a track like the Nurburgring in every state in the United States!
I think misha drove a bit recklessly. He was very lucky in certain situations and it could have bad very easily. It’s the first time driving the owners car as well. Overconfident.
He drove it like he was behind the wheel of a M3 or something. That car, even with all seasons, will handle MUCh better on the Ring than what he showed. He really needs to learn how to drive such a heavy car.
and just like that his life is changed forever! Great job Misha
I love when people put garbage pads on their car to stop brake dust. Brake dust means that your brakes are working, no brake dust means your brakes aren’t doing anything. 🤦🏻
Low dust pads does not mean garbage, for example Endless MX72 is a low dust pad and it works on track very well. I can tell you my brakes are doing ALOT for me. The MX72 is better than the terrible stock pads that my old STI had, those generated a TON of brake dust and the Endless MX72 stops better and generates significantly less brake dust.
@@typerfk8 I’m sorry, with all due respect you do not know what you are talking about if that’s your comment. The only time low dust or no dust means you have brakes is when you have CCBs. Standard steel rotors need highly abrasive high dust pads. Low dust, means there is no material being used as friction to slow the car. Your brakes may work ok, but if you put a high dust, abrasive pad on you will notice incredible increase in performance.
@@joey7253 I don't know what I'm talking about? WHERE ARE YOU VIDEOS OF DRIVING YOUR CAR ON TRACK THEN? I don't see any of that from you. You can see from my track videos that my brakes WORK extremely well and don't even fade. Endless makes some of the best brake pads available in the market. You don't even know that Endless has the best braking system products available. Best fluid (RF650) as well. And NO putting on a high dust pad won't improve anything for me. My brakes work extremely well not just "ok". They already bite hard enough to literally give someone a bruise from the seatbelt if I jam on them real quick and I have steel rotors (AP racing jhooks). Your claim "no material is being used" is BS, my brake pads wear down just like any other brake pad just there is significantly less dust. They are incredible on track and street and they don't cake my wheels in brake dust. I will keep using my MX72s.
Awesome driving I love seeing Dodge charger scat packs driven like that it makes me inspired to go to some of the tracks I have in California like Willow springs international raceway
Epic. Please keep testing American cars.
Very entertaining lap!!!
I have a friend that just sold his scatpac challenger. It had been to Petty Enterprises in Randleman NC USA - left with Magnuson supercharger and 600 WHP. Ran a squared 315 tire setup. That car was a lot of fun! Dodge did a very good job with the transmission programming. The 8 spd is stupid quick in shifts but the car doesn’t handle the tight stuff very well. He went with me to tail of the dragon. I didn’t ride with him as I was driving my C6Z. The two cars are similar is acceleration but that about it.
My boy was floating down the track in that scat 😂😭
That was beautiful. Would love to see you drive the demon version on there.
15:18 the way it flew past that Honda Civic just satisfied tf out out of me
😂great driving and impressive performance on that scat pack. All season tires and pads. The passengers expression had me laughing the entire time 😂
the widebody package handles very well for a big sedan. I drove my buddies widebody 392 and was surprised by the way it handled. You will defiantly come out of corners fast in that bad boy.
Was wondering who the hell would bring that beast to the ring on all-seasons. I then saw the stache and it all made sense. The guy was a great sport for sure!
Still pretty impressive that Misha needs only few corners to go as fast as he does with a car he does not know. Can’t wait for the 2nd lap with better tyres!
Pilot Sport Cup tires make a massive difference in grip on these cars. Brake pads, EBC, Centric, Stoptech, Powerstop, Carbotech (if you can find ones that fit), all better options than the factory or Hawk pads.
I love how all the excitement and enthusiasm left the cabin when he got passed by another car. (he was like "schweinehund!!!") 🤣🤣 tried lamely to catch up with the guy to no avail...
I have this exact same car. The Pirelli All Season tires are horrific. Cant even grip the street, let alone the track. That's some baller driving skills.
i skipped this video originally because scat pack lol but im glad i went back and watched it. that dudes expression was great
That big girl danced like no other challenger/charger ever has, on god💪
Glad to see someone actually driving this car instead of doing just donuts
The time that it took ya to adjust to the car is insane to watch, every time.