Moving Mud - Episode 20 - The Rise Of SAM - How The USAF Got Behind The Curve
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2024
- Episode 20 of The Rise Of SAM. A documentary about the history of tactical airpower before the age of Precision Guided Munitions.
We discuss the how the advent of Surface To Air Missiles changed the nature of air combat.
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Just binged my way through the episodes of this podcast after having found it a few weeks ago. I really appreciate how you tie the political and technological context into the more immediate events in the theatre. Looking forward to the next episodes!
Glad you are enjoying them. Thanks for following along. There will be another episode after a short break for some RL priorities!
I never miss an episode of this series.
Glad to hear it!
If I can allow myself to nickpick, german 88 flak didnt use prowimity fuze, as the tech never reached the front on their side, they used time fuze, and made extensive research on sound/radar/elecrostatic triggering ones but it was never on an opperational scale. Amazing vid nonetheless keep up the good work!!
Thanks very much for the clarification. I appreciate it. Glad you are enjoying the series.
This series is sooo good :D
Really glad you are enjoying it!
The fan song radar from the volhov line had 5 antennas: wide beam azimuth, wide beam elevation, narrow beam azimuth, narrow beam elevation and missile command uplink and it required 3 operators to manually track the target in azimuth, elevation and range
The dvina line only had 3 antennas: wide beam azimuth, wide beam elevation and missile command uplink
This is all very useful information. Thanks for sharing it.
Thank you for making this interesting and informative episode Iain.
Great episode! I imagine the hurry to equip the fleet with chaff and rwr might have been crazy
I expect you are right!
The SA-2/S-75 did not have semi active guidance. Although you described the guidance principle correctly, it is called command guidance
Thanks for the clarification
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"lived experience"? sounds like imagination
Well, I don't see it as my place to judge the memories of pilots who were in harms way and watch their friends fall in combat. But, just because they feel a certain way about the politics of the time doesn't mean I agree with their perspective. And I honestly don't. But I wasn't there and they were so I try to tread carefully.