@@gordonneverdiesyou COULD argue that starting with an older bow and getting good with a ‘p.o.s.’ will mean that they are better than someone who starts with a new bow and just gets good with that.
@@bearinthewoods3 I disagree. If shooting these bows make the experience more enjoyable which means he wants to shoot more often, then these can absolutely be "in his wheelhouse".
I really like that you brought someone in looking to buy and had them shoot a few options. It also enhances comments from you that are informative to the people Watching for more insight. Thanks!!
Im a Mathews guy and I think its because the familiarity with always having a Mathews but I almost bought the Alpha X because to me it was RIDICULOUSLY smooth to draw. I have a 28" draw. The LIFT won out because it felt better in my hand and the Alpha X felt like a tank in my hand after the LIFT. All these bows are SICK!!! Id take any of them into the woods.
love this video, I am a short guy also 5'7" ( thanks mom and dad) and have been shopping and researching bows for my first bow purchase. Just waiting for my local shops to get some Mathews bows in so I can do this same type of comparison. My buddies have Hoyt, Bear and Mathews but I figure Buy once Cry once.
Awesome video! Would love to see one with the longer bows. Alpha x 33, evolve 33 and the lift 33. As a leftie my bow shops don’t usually bring in all the high end bows for me to test so I like watching these comparison videos to help me arrow down the choices.
You could do this video with a girl, with a big dude that pulls 80 and an old guy that wants to pull 60. It’s cool to hear what different peoples opinions are. And screw Mathews…. 🤓
Why screw Mathews ? because your manufacturer of choice don't come close to the changes Mathews made this year. Your obviously a fan boy of a different brand. You sound like a buddy of mine , well a guy I use to hang out with. But his knowledge of everything he gets is the best. And bringing his dogs to the hunt shack and refusing to pick up their shit. Has now brought the hunting partnership and friendship to an end. Don't be so negative that gets really old after time !! And if you have a dog's and bring them to others places pick up their shit !! Better yet just don't bring them !!
@@brianloeffler2245 I'm pretty sure Brandon had tongue firmly planted in his cheek with that comment. No doubt, Mathews turned out a very interesting bow this year. A lot of excited buyers out there. I'm not a fan of a stiffer draw so I'll stick with my Phase 4 (an incredible bow). I remain immune to Mathews marketing and Chris Bee& Jeff Sturgis.
@@donovanstockton44 I personally think Jeff Sturgis in unpalatable. His content is monotonous and caters to like 1% of the country who own massive deer farms lol. He would not be a good deer hunter without $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
I really appreciate the honesty, and the neutral comparison between all the bows. Not being affiliated with one or the other companies makes the decision process more real. It does in the end come down to what fits each person better. I’m looking forward to seeing the full bow build.
I have watched a ton of videos on Hoyt Alpha and the Lift. I really appreciate you providing a demonstration that I could reproduce allowing me to experience the stability of the longer riser. I have experienced strong wind gusts so that was a very realistic consideration for me. Thanks so much
Awesome video especially for someone who has been shooting the same bow for 17 years and is now in the market for a new bow. Thanks for the input. I’m going to make a trip to my local bow shop.
Its so unique how one bow fits each and every person differently. Trying out all bows really do help, once you shoot the right one you know immediately which one is for you. They all are good bows cant go wrong with any of them. Just gotta pick the right one. Fun video
Thanks for these Reviews! I’m just getting back into it. Loads of new technology and choice since my last now 20yrs ago. Your reviews are really helping decide on what bow I will invest in. Big thanks from Australian guy here 👌 cheers mate
Great video, love to see the short ATA bows get some love for once. Mathews Lift is an amazing bow and by far the one i would pick of these 4 options, surprised how poorly the bow tech did
Just bought a bowtech core sr, I did try the Mathew’s bow, and think that I’ll be picking one up as a second. And I do love watching all your episodes. I live away up in Virden, Manitoba, and there’s not too many places close for me to take my equipment in, that’s one reason I bought the bowtech was the ease of tune ability.
Great video as always. Though I may not always agree, I always learn something to add to my archery toolbox of knowledge. Thank you for these and your other videos.
Mathews, Hoyt, Bowtech, Prime, PSE, Darton, Bear, Elite, Athens - all putting out some solid choices. This was done right - shoot a bunch and pick the one you like and go with it. A significant majority of archers are the limiting factor in terms of accuracy, not the bow they shoot.
My guess is this guy was looking for a shorter A to A than the 34" on the Ronan. I think the Ronan will be a huge hit for Prime this year, and clearly Prime is the only company listening to the truth of the economy right now. I have close ties to a couple archery shops, and they are ordering significantly less bows this year because sales are WAY down across the board. @@ShawnGilbert1967
Really looking forward to part deuce. Will help me a lot to better understand what to look for when purchasing and having a new bow properly set up. Thanks
Great breakdown. This categorically was good to see for a beginner like me. Understanding the things that do and don't factor 🤙. Now for the 33" w/30"+ draw breakdown
I’ve shot the new Mathew’s Hoyt and bowtech. And the Hoyt alpha x 33 felt the best to.. I’m coming from a bowtech sr350. It really is the person shooting the bow and I do also believe that everyone of these bows will feel different at different draw links that’s just my opinion
It's critical with the available technology today to try multiple brand's and designs. I took your advice and tried 4 different bows, three different brands and settled on the Hoyt Alpha X. All of my hunting is done near my residence in coastal NC so the 30" fit my style of hunting from a saddle even with a 29.5 " draw length. Great content!
When you did the ‘wind gust’ test, it seemed like you exerted more force on the PSE than you did the Matthew’s. You pushed/pulled it harder for a longer duration.
It really doesn't matter how hard you push or pull the bow, it's really at what point you release the bow and how stable it is to rebalance from that point. Physics is going to prove that the longer riser is going to be easier to balance... it's like a tight roper, they use a very long pole to help stabilize and balance as opposed to a short stick.
Thanks for the run down on how to select a bow. You are so right that a bow for a person is specific to the individual. Most manufacturers make great equipment so it just boils down to side by side for everyones decision. I picked a Darton over a Bowtech and Mathews last year and am pleased with that personal choice.
Thank you for these videos, after a several year break I’ve gotten back into shooting with my grandson. Your process of working with clients to score bows is really good and solid, great job. We were out shooting Friday and my grandson is consistently low right 12”. Can you do a video for us beginners on what to look for so we understand the problems we are experiencing and how we mayaddress the problems at home?
Something that I have found very critical for me is how sensitive and constant a bow is to form. I find that different bows may be more or less forgiving to each individuals hand placement and release. I test this during my tuning phase by shooting multiple arrows through paper to see how small hand placement changes and torque affects arrow tune. This seems to help with overall accuracy and consistency in most cases.
I hope they focus on draw cycle and long range accuracy. And do this test outdoors. And throw some real world durability testing (who hasn't dropped their bow before).
The fact Mathews made a LIGHTER aluminum bow than the RX8 and RX8 Ultra, which is fricking CARBON, and made it FASTER.... blows my mind. Oh and it's way cheaper. Oh and the accessories are basically the same, maybe better in some ways and worse in others. (This is coming from someone who loves his RX7-Ultra and isn't upgrading this year anyway)
The draw cycle of the Lift sucks. The Hoyt is amazing. The rest I agree with you. But seriously a lot of us mathews fanboys are not happy Mathews decided on an aggressive cam (but any engineer would see they had no choice with their new design of shaving weight at all costs). We are now sutck with a "stiff" draw that wasn't good on the cross centric cams to begin with. And now they made it worse to sell to people who shoot more at the place they buy than out in the woods. SMDH. Nobel Prize to Mathews marketing department. Talk about "vendor lock-in" - if you don't know that term you and I cannot be friends.
It's only like a tenth of a lb on paper right? The switch weight mods from other bows won't fit from what I've heard. So the only thing interchangeable is the 800 dollar stabilizer set up, right? I have an rx7, and my rx8 showed up today, I personally like the hoyt grip, and draw cycle better, always have. Both great bows im sure, to each their own, etc...
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713oh for sure. I love my RX7, I was just surprised that the middle finger Mathews was giving carbon bows paid off when they made this one so light.
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 Yeah...only 0.1th of a lb on paper. Also $700 cheaper than the RX8. The point is that Mathews achieved a bow that weighs what the carbon bows do at an aluminum riser price.
You can’t really complain about the test results. Seemed pretty fair and objective to me. The one thing that did surprise me was the grip decision! Absolutely hate the engage grip!
I knew what bow he was gonna pick out before I opened this video up. Everyone chooses a Mathews bow in these vide d, but with that being said on this bow I do believe it’s a good solid platform since I shot one last week. Mathews is putting out a great bow this year.
Love the video I think Kieth and I are pretty similar size draw length and draw weight, also looking for same things in a bow I also shoot a hoyt now this was very helpful for me as I’m looking for a new bow
I like the idea of this video. Take any person and fit a bow to them. I’m on the market for a budget long draw bow. Every shop I’ve walked into they just tell me 1-2 options and it’s never great.
Tuning All Falls Onto Shooter. Rifle? Trigger Tuning When It Breaks. Debates Will Always Be There. However Thank GOD For Choices. Outstanding Footage. Keep It Coming.🇺🇸🤛👍
PSE all day everyday for me. Much better cam efficiency. Better draw cycle although this guy was trying to pull the cams off of both bows. the Lift is a huge improvement for Mathews for sure. But I love PSE carbon bows
I’ve been out of archery due to injury. When I started, I’m 2009, I picked up a 70lb. PSE Dream Season and practiced with almost 200 arrows daily for a full year before taking it hunting. On my first hunt I scored a 338 lb. Boar at 40 yards and when the arrow landed, the boar literally fell over dead. I was always a rifle hunter and wanted to see what all the hype I was hearing from buddies that bow hunted were talking about. Now I know! Well I’m a lot older (62) and way more beat up but I’m wanting to get back at it again with a bow and wanted to know if I can still use the PSE since it was fast in its day or is there a better system for me available?
I’m looking at the 33”. I’ll fly out there and have you help me. 😁 I currently shoot the RX7U in 80#. Looking at the new Alpha X, Lift, SR Core, and Elite. Wanting to stick with either 75 or 80 pounds, so the Bowtech may already be out unless we can get a SX80 in the mix. I’m also interested in the Prime, but I don’t have a Prime dealer close to me.
Nice job, and since Keith’s #2 priority was Accessories, did anyone film his reaction at the cash register once he saw the cost of the Mathews stabilizers and quiver system? It’s almost like paying for another bow..😢
I went from pse to xpedition a couple years ago just because I wanted a complete change. I went from light to a heavy bow. Still getting used to it,but I think I like shooting the heavy bow.
I would love to see a video like this with the longer version bows! While not the focus of this video the speeds generated at 27” draw and 60 would be interesting. Good process, great content!
To me, any of these bows would be an enormous upgrade. But, I would have to pass on the PSE because of the short riser. Being 6 feet tall and having a 30 inch draw, I've found them unstable. Which you actually showed.
@longshotdiedtired1582 For the longest time (20 of my 30+ years of shooting a bow), I've gravitated to the shorter ATA bows. With short risers. Mainly because of being a treestand hunter. But, in the last few years, I've been looking at bows at least 32 inches ATA. And with longer risers. My 2 bows right now are a 2007 Diamond Triumph that is 31.5 ATA with a 23 inch riser, and my new 2022 Bear Legit that is a little shorter at 30 inches ATA, but has about a 26 inch riser. They are night and day as far as stability goes. The Legit hardly moves at all in my hand, but the Triumph wants to sway almost. Any significant wind, and it's all over the place.
Do you have a breakdown for draw length to bow length axel-to-axel? I am 5'9" and have about a 28.5 draw length and shoot a 34 axel-to-axel bow, should I be shooting a 29.5?
I completely understand the following that Matthews has, it is well deserved. I also really do like Hoyt, I've owned them before and they are rock solid bows you can't go wrong with. All that said, I'm a Bowtech guy for life, for many reasons but the deadlock system alone is enough for me to be on team Bowtech.
I went through all these tests about three weeks ago. Money wasn't a consideration, all about feel and comfort. In the end, I went with the Mathews LIFT 29.5, the Mathews site, the Mathews new QAD rest, and the attached quiver with a 12 inch bar out front and an 8 inch bar outback.
No Mathews hate here. Again, great video. Really enjoy the customer tune videos. BTW, currently shooting Mathews but have a couple of the PSE bows as well. This is coming from a competion target 3D archer.
I wish i had someone to go through bows like this with. Would have made a big difference for me a few years ago when i bought my Axius Ultra. Which i love but maybe I would have ended up with something different.
Great job guys, how's the let-down on the Lift? I couldn't let-down my trx it'll pull my shoulder out of the socket also very jumpy. I never went back to mathews because my Halon x comp was jumpy too. I hate jumpy bows.
Very jumpy. Watch him draw it. It seems like it makes noise it lumps into the back wall so hard. Looks like a deer would spook! I shot it today and I’m in Wisconsin where everyone shoots a Mathew’s. Not for me.
So I have said this before every person should shoot the bow blind folded first as long as u can do it safely because it makes a huge difference in feel and balance and it takes away your visial bias. And if u give the bow to them and they dont know which one they are shooting then it takes away any bias they may have. I have coached archery for a number of years and if u start people off like that it really helps them key in on the aspects that are naturally a good fit for them. It works people need to try it more
Got to talk with Matt McPherson for like 20 mins the other day at a coffee shop. He is one of the most down to earth nice guys you will ever meet. And yes his bows are the best!
It’s really funny how they started out with” it’s one man’s opinion” and continually reiterated that point , but so many idiots calling it wrong. Go make your own channel and express YOUR OPINION instead of hating and being a troll in the comments. Good job guys. Nice to see a lay persons point of view.
Can you possibly do a review on the APA archery black mamba bow. I’m just curious to see if their claims of 360 fps IBO speed is real. They also have some neat technology.
Love the Mathews system have owned a zillion bows and kept Mathews around the past several years but I’m not buying into longer riser being more stable in the real world. The target bow risers all in the past have been very short on riser length and scores have not changed since longer risers were brought into the world. ATA rules stability.
It all depends on the person. I went in to the shop and shot all these bows but I went in thinking I was getting the lift but I ended up going with the rx8 as I felt it was the smoothest drawing bow
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_As someone who is just getting into archery, this was suuuuuuuper helpful!_
*_Thank You!_*
If you are JUST getting I to archery...NONE of these bows should be in your wheelhouse.
Why is that? Buy once cry once?Right? Im new to archery as well@@bearinthewoods3
@@bearinthewoods3 Why? If he has the money why not buy a superior bow?
@@gordonneverdiesyou COULD argue that starting with an older bow and getting good with a ‘p.o.s.’ will mean that they are better than someone who starts with a new bow and just gets good with that.
@@bearinthewoods3 I disagree. If shooting these bows make the experience more enjoyable which means he wants to shoot more often, then these can absolutely be "in his wheelhouse".
I really like that you brought someone in looking to buy and had them shoot a few options. It also enhances comments from you that are informative to the people Watching for more insight. Thanks!!
Appreciate what you have accomplished. You make bow shopping decisions easier! Awesome channel, keep rocking it!!
Feel is subjective and will be different for everyone. Great video. Keep them coming!
Im a Mathews guy and I think its because the familiarity with always having a Mathews but I almost bought the Alpha X because to me it was RIDICULOUSLY smooth to draw. I have a 28" draw. The LIFT won out because it felt better in my hand and the Alpha X felt like a tank in my hand after the LIFT. All these bows are SICK!!! Id take any of them into the woods.
You should do more of these videos with customers. Great job!
love this video, I am a short guy also 5'7" ( thanks mom and dad) and have been shopping and researching bows for my first bow purchase. Just waiting for my local shops to get some Mathews bows in so I can do this same type of comparison. My buddies have Hoyt, Bear and Mathews but I figure Buy once Cry once.
Awesome video! Would love to see one with the longer bows. Alpha x 33, evolve 33 and the lift 33. As a leftie my bow shops don’t usually bring in all the high end bows for me to test so I like watching these comparison videos to help me arrow down the choices.
You could do this video with a girl, with a big dude that pulls 80 and an old guy that wants to pull 60. It’s cool to hear what different peoples opinions are.
And screw Mathews…. 🤓
Why screw Mathews ? because your manufacturer of choice don't come close to the changes Mathews made this year. Your obviously a fan boy of a different brand. You sound like a buddy of mine , well a guy I use to hang out with. But his knowledge of everything he gets is the best. And bringing his dogs to the hunt shack and refusing to pick up their shit. Has now brought the hunting partnership and friendship to an end. Don't be so negative that gets really old after time !! And if you have a dog's and bring them to others places pick up their shit !! Better yet just don't bring them !!
@@brianloeffler2245 I'm pretty sure Brandon had tongue firmly planted in his cheek with that comment. No doubt, Mathews turned out a very interesting bow this year. A lot of excited buyers out there. I'm not a fan of a stiffer draw so I'll stick with my Phase 4 (an incredible bow). I remain immune to Mathews marketing and Chris Bee& Jeff Sturgis.
Yeah, Brandon... Don't bring your dogs if your not going to pick up their shit lol. Where tf have you been? Patiently awaiting more content my man.
@@donovanstockton44 Ya I didn't even realize it was McClown shoes !!
@@donovanstockton44 I personally think Jeff Sturgis in unpalatable. His content is monotonous and caters to like 1% of the country who own massive deer farms lol. He would not be a good deer hunter without $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
I really appreciate the honesty, and the neutral comparison between all the bows. Not being affiliated with one or the other companies makes the decision process more real. It does in the end come down to what fits each person better. I’m looking forward to seeing the full bow build.
I have watched a ton of videos on Hoyt Alpha and the Lift. I really appreciate you providing a demonstration that I could reproduce allowing me to experience the stability of the longer riser. I have experienced strong wind gusts so that was a very realistic consideration for me. Thanks so much
Great video, real results, with a real customer. Great content as always! That riser test is really interesting as well.
Awesome video especially for someone who has been shooting the same bow for 17 years and is now in the market for a new bow. Thanks for the input. I’m going to make a trip to my local bow shop.
Its so unique how one bow fits each and every person differently. Trying out all bows really do help, once you shoot the right one you know immediately which one is for you. They all are good bows cant go wrong with any of them. Just gotta pick the right one. Fun video
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That’s how I’ve felt with both of my primes. I’ve always been shocked at how underrated they are
Thanks for these Reviews! I’m just getting back into it. Loads of new technology and choice since my last now 20yrs ago. Your reviews are really helping decide on what bow I will invest in. Big thanks from Australian guy here 👌 cheers mate
I really like the format, please do with longer ata bows
Great video, love to see the short ATA bows get some love for once. Mathews Lift is an amazing bow and by far the one i would pick of these 4 options, surprised how poorly the bow tech did
Just bought a bowtech core sr, I did try the Mathew’s bow, and think that I’ll be picking one up as a second. And I do love watching all your episodes. I live away up in Virden, Manitoba, and there’s not too many places close for me to take my equipment in, that’s one reason I bought the bowtech was the ease of tune ability.
Great video as always. Though I may not always agree, I always learn something to add to my archery toolbox of knowledge. Thank you for these and your other videos.
Mathews, Hoyt, Bowtech, Prime, PSE, Darton, Bear, Elite, Athens - all putting out some solid choices. This was done right - shoot a bunch and pick the one you like and go with it. A significant majority of archers are the limiting factor in terms of accuracy, not the bow they shoot.
Would have liked to see the Prime Ronan tossed in for a sub 1000 test to compare for a guy of which money is no concern
My guess is this guy was looking for a shorter A to A than the 34" on the Ronan. I think the Ronan will be a huge hit for Prime this year, and clearly Prime is the only company listening to the truth of the economy right now. I have close ties to a couple archery shops, and they are ordering significantly less bows this year because sales are WAY down across the board. @@ShawnGilbert1967
Really looking forward to part deuce. Will help me a lot to better understand what to look for when purchasing and having a new bow properly set up. Thanks
Great work Josh, Can we try this format video with the 33 ata bows please
Thanks guys! I enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work!
Yes. Please do the longer BOW VERSION!
Really enjoy these compares and get a lot out of them. I have the same draw length and shared similar priorities, so very helpful.
Great breakdown.
This categorically was good to see for a beginner like me. Understanding the things that do and don't factor 🤙.
Now for the 33" w/30"+ draw breakdown
I’ve shot the new Mathew’s Hoyt and bowtech. And the Hoyt alpha x 33 felt the best to.. I’m coming from a bowtech sr350. It really is the person shooting the bow and I do also believe that everyone of these bows will feel different at different draw links that’s just my opinion
It's critical with the available technology today to try multiple brand's and designs. I took your advice and tried 4 different bows, three different brands and settled on the Hoyt Alpha X. All of my hunting is done near my residence in coastal NC so the 30" fit my style of hunting from a saddle even with a 29.5 " draw length. Great content!
When you did the ‘wind gust’ test, it seemed like you exerted more force on the PSE than you did the Matthew’s. You pushed/pulled it harder for a longer duration.
It really doesn't matter how hard you push or pull the bow, it's really at what point you release the bow and how stable it is to rebalance from that point. Physics is going to prove that the longer riser is going to be easier to balance... it's like a tight roper, they use a very long pole to help stabilize and balance as opposed to a short stick.
Very enjoyable video.I’m in the middle of picking a new bow so this was particularly fun to watch.
I just got the Mathews Life 33 in fade to black, and I love it. What got me was how light it was compared to my Botech.
Yes JJ you should do a longer draw length. Thanks again for the thought of trying them all and find the one that fits the best.
Thanks for the run down on how to select a bow. You are so right that a bow for a person is specific to the individual. Most manufacturers make great equipment so it just boils down to side by side for everyones decision. I picked a Darton over a Bowtech and Mathews last year and am pleased with that personal choice.
i just bought a Mathews lift really does feel amazing if you want it the speed is there they are one of the best i cant wait to get in the woods
Thank you for these videos, after a several year break I’ve gotten back into shooting with my grandson. Your process of working with clients to score bows is really good and solid, great job. We were out shooting Friday and my grandson is consistently low right 12”. Can you do a video for us beginners on what to look for so we understand the problems we are experiencing and how we mayaddress the problems at home?
To me the hoyt and bowtech are far and away the best drawing this year.
I felt the Mathews drew batter
Then you didn’t draw the bows mentioned, or you have not a clue what you’re saying. That said- I bought the Matthew’s.
@@Michael-eb3ne ok buddy 👍🏽 congrats lol
Something that I have found very critical for me is how sensitive and constant a bow is to form.
I find that different bows may be more or less forgiving to each individuals hand placement and release.
I test this during my tuning phase by shooting multiple arrows through paper to see how small hand placement changes and torque affects arrow tune.
This seems to help with overall accuracy and consistency in most cases.
How come we dont have a category for loudness? Id like to know what bow was the quietest as well. Id imagine this needs to be a variable for hunters.
I hope they focus on draw cycle and long range accuracy. And do this test outdoors. And throw some real world durability testing (who hasn't dropped their bow before).
Yeah, I'm sure a realistic test is gauging the durability of throwing a $1200-$1800 bow out of a treestand 🙄
They are all gonna be as accurate as you make it (tuning and arrow build). And I have never dropped my bow..
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The fact Mathews made a LIGHTER aluminum bow than the RX8 and RX8 Ultra, which is fricking CARBON, and made it FASTER.... blows my mind. Oh and it's way cheaper. Oh and the accessories are basically the same, maybe better in some ways and worse in others.
(This is coming from someone who loves his RX7-Ultra and isn't upgrading this year anyway)
The draw cycle of the Lift sucks. The Hoyt is amazing. The rest I agree with you. But seriously a lot of us mathews fanboys are not happy Mathews decided on an aggressive cam (but any engineer would see they had no choice with their new design of shaving weight at all costs). We are now sutck with a "stiff" draw that wasn't good on the cross centric cams to begin with. And now they made it worse to sell to people who shoot more at the place they buy than out in the woods. SMDH. Nobel Prize to Mathews marketing department. Talk about "vendor lock-in" - if you don't know that term you and I cannot be friends.
It's only like a tenth of a lb on paper right? The switch weight mods from other bows won't fit from what I've heard. So the only thing interchangeable is the 800 dollar stabilizer set up, right? I have an rx7, and my rx8 showed up today, I personally like the hoyt grip, and draw cycle better, always have. Both great bows im sure, to each their own, etc...
Truth!!
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713oh for sure. I love my RX7, I was just surprised that the middle finger Mathews was giving carbon bows paid off when they made this one so light.
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 Yeah...only 0.1th of a lb on paper. Also $700 cheaper than the RX8. The point is that Mathews achieved a bow that weighs what the carbon bows do at an aluminum riser price.
Thx guys I appreciate the video. 😁🙏🏻
Great video. Please do a sequel focusing on the longer ata versions!!!
I agree!!
The Matthew’s haters are strong in these comments. All the new bows are sweet! Would have loved to see the new elite in there too. Great video.
You can’t really complain about the test results. Seemed pretty fair and objective to me. The one thing that did surprise me was the grip decision! Absolutely hate the engage grip!
I’m not a fan either but recently I’ve watched a few videos of ppl that say they love the grip which is weird I never hear anyone say that
I knew what bow he was gonna pick out before I opened this video up. Everyone chooses a Mathews bow in these vide d, but with that being said on this bow I do believe it’s a good solid platform since I shot one last week. Mathews is putting out a great bow this year.
Love the video I think Kieth and I are pretty similar size draw length and draw weight, also looking for same things in a bow I also shoot a hoyt now this was very helpful for me as I’m looking for a new bow
Very cool to watch. Would love to see one with longer axel to axel and draw length
I like the idea of this video. Take any person and fit a bow to them. I’m on the market for a budget long draw bow. Every shop I’ve walked into they just tell me 1-2 options and it’s never great.
Definitely would like to see a video on the longer ATA bows.
Tuning All Falls Onto Shooter. Rifle? Trigger Tuning When It Breaks. Debates Will Always Be There. However Thank GOD For Choices. Outstanding Footage. Keep It Coming.🇺🇸🤛👍
PSE all day everyday for me. Much better cam efficiency. Better draw cycle although this guy was trying to pull the cams off of both bows.
the Lift is a huge improvement for Mathews for sure. But I love PSE carbon bows
I liked watching Keith's decision process in what he was looking for and why. I wouldn't mind coming in and doing the longer A2A for ya!
Thanks for your time. Great analysis.
I’ve been out of archery due to injury. When I started, I’m 2009, I picked up a 70lb. PSE Dream Season and practiced with almost 200 arrows daily for a full year before taking it hunting.
On my first hunt I scored a 338 lb. Boar at 40 yards and when the arrow landed, the boar literally fell over dead. I was always a rifle hunter and wanted to see what all the hype I was hearing from buddies that bow hunted were talking about.
Now I know!
Well I’m a lot older (62) and way more beat up but I’m wanting to get back at it again with a bow and wanted to know if I can still use the PSE since it was fast in its day or is there a better system for me available?
Can you review the Blackout NV 3?
I’m looking at the 33”. I’ll fly out there and have you help me. 😁
I currently shoot the RX7U in 80#. Looking at the new Alpha X, Lift, SR Core, and Elite. Wanting to stick with either 75 or 80 pounds, so the Bowtech may already be out unless we can get a SX80 in the mix. I’m also interested in the Prime, but I don’t have a Prime dealer close to me.
Can you explain what you mean by wheeling on the Matthews?
Thought that was informative. I am 6’3" with 30.5” draw. Would like to see longer axels comparisons.
Nice job, and since Keith’s #2 priority was Accessories, did anyone film his reaction at the cash register once he saw the cost of the Mathews stabilizers and quiver system? It’s almost like paying for another bow..😢
Sir, do you think you could do a torque Tunability category.
What's ur thought on Matthew's mission switch for a beginners bow. Shot hoyts in early 2000's but now wanting to start shooting again.
Was the pse set to 80 or 85%? 90% feels considerably different than the 80 or 85
picking the mathews grip?? hahah i had to commment because you said people would be on your ass for it!! 😅😂😅 great video. 👍
Great ride, not sure of the destination????
This video was very informative and I wanna see the 33 inch version!
Nice work MFJJ. This gentleman chose what he preferred. 👍
Geez I wonder who wins? 🤔
I went from pse to xpedition a couple years ago just because I wanted a complete change. I went from light to a heavy bow. Still getting used to it,but I think I like shooting the heavy bow.
A comparison between the Lift and Mach 30 on the outdoor range with a finished setup, would be interesting.
ya i think the lift might pull out just because of the stability
I am looking at the Mathews and the Bowtech. I’m leaning Mathews as of now, but I haven’t shot either of them personally. Thanks for the content.
I would love to see a video like this with the longer version bows! While not the focus of this video the speeds generated at 27” draw and 60 would be interesting. Good process, great content!
To me, any of these bows would be an enormous upgrade. But, I would have to pass on the PSE because of the short riser. Being 6 feet tall and having a 30 inch draw, I've found them unstable. Which you actually showed.
The PSE Mach 34 and levitate are definitely the better choice for us bigger guys
@longshotdiedtired1582 For the longest time (20 of my 30+ years of shooting a bow), I've gravitated to the shorter ATA bows. With short risers. Mainly because of being a treestand hunter. But, in the last few years, I've been looking at bows at least 32 inches ATA. And with longer risers. My 2 bows right now are a 2007 Diamond Triumph that is 31.5 ATA with a 23 inch riser, and my new 2022 Bear Legit that is a little shorter at 30 inches ATA, but has about a 26 inch riser. They are night and day as far as stability goes. The Legit hardly moves at all in my hand, but the Triumph wants to sway almost. Any significant wind, and it's all over the place.
Do you have a breakdown for draw length to bow length axel-to-axel? I am 5'9" and have about a 28.5 draw length and shoot a 34 axel-to-axel bow, should I be shooting a 29.5?
Great video! Definitely interested to see how it swings with the longer ATA to throw the Ethos into the ring
The dog in the beginning 😂 give me your hand
I completely understand the following that Matthews has, it is well deserved. I also really do like Hoyt, I've owned them before and they are rock solid bows you can't go wrong with. All that said, I'm a Bowtech guy for life, for many reasons but the deadlock system alone is enough for me to be on team Bowtech.
Sponsored by Mathew’s😂😂😂
Loved the comparisons for this 5’10” guy!!!😅
Great videos as always, appreciate the insight gentlemen..
I went through all these tests about three weeks ago. Money wasn't a consideration, all about feel and comfort. In the end, I went with the Mathews LIFT 29.5, the Mathews site, the Mathews new QAD rest, and the attached quiver with a 12 inch bar out front and an 8 inch bar outback.
No Mathews hate here. Again, great video. Really enjoy the customer tune videos. BTW, currently shooting Mathews but have a couple of the PSE bows as well. This is coming from a competion target 3D archer.
I wish i had someone to go through bows like this with. Would have made a big difference for me a few years ago when i bought my Axius Ultra. Which i love but maybe I would have ended up with something different.
Matthews who would’ve thought. It’s a good bow mines on order your videos always have good content. Thanks.
What is it that causes some bows to jump forward more then others? It seemed like the Hoyt and Bowtech jumped the least
Just wondering if you would class the CHECKMATE QUIVER as a PSE Quiver
Great job guys, how's the let-down on the Lift? I couldn't let-down my trx it'll pull my shoulder out of the socket also very jumpy. I never went back to mathews because my Halon x comp was jumpy too. I hate jumpy bows.
Very jumpy. Watch him draw it. It seems like it makes noise it lumps into the back wall so hard. Looks like a deer would spook! I shot it today and I’m in Wisconsin where everyone shoots a Mathew’s. Not for me.
What are the bow legs on the PSE?
Great information. Thx for posting this video!
Mathew, Hoyt great bows but I'm finally turning in my 2008 PSE Stinger for the Carbon PSE mach 30.
So I have said this before every person should shoot the bow blind folded first as long as u can do it safely because it makes a huge difference in feel and balance and it takes away your visial bias. And if u give the bow to them and they dont know which one they are shooting then it takes away any bias they may have. I have coached archery for a number of years and if u start people off like that it really helps them key in on the aspects that are naturally a good fit for them. It works people need to try it more
Got to talk with Matt McPherson for like 20 mins the other day at a coffee shop. He is one of the most down to earth nice guys you will ever meet. And yes his bows are the best!
PSE In Increment Adjustments Are So Sweet. Again To Each Their Own For Your Fit.
What about the new Darton bows?
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Awesome!!! I want to come experience one at 33 and more weight!
It’s really funny how they started out with” it’s one man’s opinion” and continually reiterated that point , but so many idiots calling it wrong. Go make your own channel and express YOUR OPINION instead of hating and being a troll in the comments.
Good job guys. Nice to see a lay persons point of view.
Can you possibly do a review on the APA archery black mamba bow. I’m just curious to see if their claims of 360 fps IBO speed is real. They also have some neat technology.
I need to know i am between sx80 and lift 29.5
No camera man discount???? Always enjoy these side by side comp's
Love the Mathews system have owned a zillion bows and kept Mathews around the past several years but I’m not buying into longer riser being more stable in the real world.
The target bow risers all in the past have been very short on riser length and scores have not changed since longer risers were brought into the world. ATA rules stability.
Would love to see a longer ata comparison...and if your feeling generous, a "best bow for long draw archers" segment (33")
It all depends on the person. I went in to the shop and shot all these bows but I went in thinking I was getting the lift but I ended up going with the rx8 as I felt it was the smoothest drawing bow
What is his draw length JJ? Sorry if i missef this earlier on in the video.
27.5" (I am the guy from the vid)
@@jkeithhowe What release and wrist strap are you using