World's FASTEST Electric JonBoat? Lithium Batteries | Tracker Grizzly | Elco 50 HP | TBNation
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To be honest, I'm not sure if this is the world's fastest electric jon boat, but I have not seen anything close. This jon boat to bass boat conversion is being built by PCF to compete in electric only Jon Boat Tournament trails in Georgia. The motor is a 50 HP Elco, with Lithium Batteries made by Underground Power. We will keep progress on this Tracker Grizzly 1860 throughout the build. Marine Batteries and Boat Electronics are a popular topic, but this boat has broken the record, or set the record. Thank you to everyone that made this possible. Everyone involved is linked above. What does your aluminum boat do on the speed charts?
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Now design a 17' catamaran hull with that motor mounted on the front to pull the boat instead of pushing it. That same electric motor could also serve as a remote trolling/fishing motor. Add a HP alternator to be continually charging the batteries all day and you'll have my dream fishing rig.
🔥🔥🔥💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 stay tuned BIG THINGS COMING
I was able to see this boat at Frankie’s house tonight and that battery setup is amazing. It’s going to be real nice when it’s finished.
400 amps and water along with 96 volts! Looks like this boat could turn into "ole sparky" the electric chair! Better hope the batteries are water tight.
That thing is awesome!
🎊🎉Congratulations boys I would have to say that was a HUGE SUCCESS!!!🔥🔥🔥
Thanks Ken!!
Put wheel hub generators on the trailer so every time you hit the brakes, power goes into the boat batteries.
You know, that's actually a business idea worth pursuing. Like an electric car it would help to make the trailer brakes last far longer. Even the brakes on the towing vehicle would last a little longer. Would need to add a charge controller to make sure you don't overcharge the batteries.
yeah itd be great if they added induction motors to trailers to help you stop and accelerate off a full stop. Wouldn't need a big battery either
This was awesome, fellas! Keep it up!
And it’s all going down here in Georgia! Can’t wait to see the final product! Awesome set up men!
I need something like this in a small fiberglass boat with jack plate, stainless prop, stepped transom, big pad, and a little better battery weight distribution! I bet you could get close to 40mph out of it then!
Heck yeah!!!
It's Perfection lil brother! Can't wait to see when wrap is on it too & will have to take me fishing!
I will make that happen!❤❤❤
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Great Video!!! Cool to see it get well above 20 mph. I’m using an Elco EP-50 on a pontoon boat. I’m still in the build process. Hoping to have it out in the next couple of weeks. Hoping for 15mph 🤞
Let me know how it goes please!!!! Are you on Instagram as well?
FIREANT Yeah I’m on insta but I haven’t updated my name on Insta and I have not yet posted anything about the boat there. My name on there is “The Electric Roadtrip”
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Thats gotta be one heavy jon
Not really. Those lithium batteries probably only weigh 20-30 pounds a piece. Probably just a heavy as 3 lead acid with the amount they have in there.
Wicked wicked wicked
cool project
I love that boat ,that speed is plenty good,
Freakin sweet man! Let’s put that on mine 😂😂😂
That would be scary 🤣
BADASS!
yeah it is
That's pretty cool stuff, right there. What is the noise of the electric motor like, compared to a gas equivalent? I'm guessing the sound of the wind, when you're on plane, makes it all about the same?
How many hours of run-time are you calculating? I may have missed that in the video.
So with this battery setup we expected 1hr to 1 1/2 hrs of full run time. After we got back from trial run, Nathan ran some tests on the batteries. New calculations are looking more like 2-3hrs of continuous wide open run time.
The noise is very distinct, however I don't feel like it's worse than a gas motor by any means. Not nearly as loud, and not as annoying to hear run all the time
This the futur
I love that lake last time I went they were having that all electric bass tournamentthere
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Nice
Awesome
Thanks guys! WE NEED TO TALK!!!!!! 🤣 hit me up when your free!
@@fireantfishing cool man will do. Trying to finish up this build. I'll hit you up next week.
Question about framing. Could I make a frame out of only 1/16” angle aluminum and it be strong enough? Or would I need to use 1/8”?
1/16
Thank you! Love watching your videos
I was curious about electric boats...a friend of mine has a 30 foot twin pontoon with a 3.0L V6 inboard/outboard. It can get up to 19 MPH, has a 20 gallon gas tank and gets ~2 MPG
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700 pounds plus 3 biscuit eating country boys at 25mph X3 is definitely a record. The bass won't know what hit them!
hahahahaha thanks Randall
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Add a jack plate for an extra 5mph and prop
badass
yeah it is
you should run a prop with greater pitch. I feel like with all of the torque would help you gain a couple of MPH.
Did it have counter rotating screws???
With all the torque of the electric motor, might be able to with a bigger prop designed for more speed
Crazy cool I want one cheap please
Impressive speed. Also check out that no hands required panther steering system
Looks good doesn't it!
22-26mph is impressive? LOL.
@@jeffissimo1221Can you top that speed?? I'd like to see how fast does your total electric boat go👀
@@aaronwilson8198 That's just it. Given the current state of electrical power systems, I wouldn't waste my time trying to get a planning boat to make use of electric power. Electric marine power is best left to displacement hulls, where hull length will determine vessel speed. Go look at the Yamaha performance bulletins... 25hp... 16' aluminum multispecies boat...1,300lbs plus... GOT ON PLANE, and went just as fast with only 25hp. 50hp Yamaha on a MV1756SC, 1,780lbs fully rigged, 32mph. The boat in the video was a Tracker.... looked like maybe an 1860. That boat is less than 800lbs, couldn't get on plane and couldn't get above 26mph. Does electric power have a place? Sure. In a displacement hull. But when the title of a video says "Fastest electric boat....blah blah blah" you can't blame others who point out that there are better alternatives.
@@jeffissimo1221 hey cool story bro🙌
That has to be close to 17 grand for that set up? Prob more then 17?
Hello folks, yeah, I'm an admirer of your electric motor boat, I like the idea of the longest possible boat that I might be able to get my hands on, for all these videos that I have been researching and watching everyone doing their stuff, hay that's all cool and well entended, but I've noticed something about the way the boats from the video's camera lens, even though you folks are 14,16,18,and even a possible 20ft or what ever you can get your hands on, I really don't know what is in my future, I live in a house that is 22ft x30ft, and I do hopefully have a good idea of what a 20ftr boat looks like, I like the under ground battery system and BMS, that you have to balance the system out with, but with those video camera lenses, those 16,18, n 20ft boats don't look that big, but on the other hand, just how much dam speed do you really need just to high tail it out to that possible favorite spot, hay , guess what guys, I think you all need to wait a few extra moments of time, you will eventually get there, you don't really need a ocean going cruising high speed boat to out there, your 50hp electric motor and your 20,24, n 30mph looks plenty fast enough, but what I can't understand is, why is the standard boat system only go up a possible 18,20, I prefer a flat bottom boat, I just like the idea of a 20,24 ft with your electric system,
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I think I have the right video , I think I was told, this boat a 1860 ,now does that mean the first 2 numbers says it's an 18ftr, what does 60 number mean, my main objective is, I do prefer " A ",
John boat fishing boat, but I want a like possible 20ft long battery powered operated boat, I am currently living in a 22x30 ft 2 story house, so with the size of a 20/22ft john boat, you folks are working with that 1860 boat, I have already seen your video several times, and I have been studying other videos and other larger boats, I'd like to have a seaark boat, and their factory, I'm almost preferring a DIY john boat project, and the speed you folks are showing is very well plenty of good speed, but finding a good 18/20 footer and hitting the lottery is next to impossible, yes, I admire your video,
First two are length, last two are width at the bottom
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Do you have a link to the Panther Steering System?
I do not unfortunately
So i love the build but as Safety goes Do you think running a panther electric steer for something that was built for a kicker motor going no more than 5 or 6 miles an hour is safe to run at that speed I don't see a good recovery rate if the boat were to get out of control
I'm going to be honest, that was my first thought as well. Now on electric only reservoirs I wouldn't be as worried about it, but on a bigger lake I'd be a little sketched out. I keep playing over in my head that recent viral video where the guy in the ranger took off for a tournament and the boat caught and he hit the bank...haha
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Well now...gotta figure a way to circulate cooler air into the battery compartment to cool the batteries down while riding. But am curious as to how long of a run time you'd get from it.
Only runs as long as the motor will allow at this point
You should move that heavy battery bank closer to the front of the boat...at least just past the middle of the boat...it'll get out of the hole easier & the back of the boat won't be so low in the water...
I bet putting the batteries straight down the middle, adding an adjustable-height jack plate, with tilt & trim, and playing with the pitch on the prop will get you over 30mph.
Boat'll plane off faster with more of the battery weight farther forward.
yes
Evoy is designing a 450hp outboard!
You need one of those on a jon boat!
That would be sweet!
wrong gst yaht
Your definitely going to piss off all your competition
*This setup is so freaking sick!*
*Love the sound of it!*
#tincancrew
I would like to know the total cost for the setup, those batteries aren't cheap
Yep, everything is fun and games until the batteries catch fire.
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I can't believe it took a whole 8.5 minutes before someone mentioned mentioned beer.
hahahaha
Would elco battery company be able to tell me more about their battery powered systems and motor systems that's all I think I would need,,your choice and arrangement of batteries and motor setup is showing a really good sizable system, but I think I might prefer a few more hp ,but I do like your battery system
Awesome Video! Cant wait to take a ride in it, maybe catch some fish. Good work guys!
We'll make that happen
It's a great ride!
You texted me back and said, that your is an 1860 ,is that meaning it's an 18 ftr , I'm finding myself interested in getting into a battery powered boat, with all the other videos, it looks very workable
Its ok how much do the batteries weigh
680 lbs with the bms
You should rig up a water cooling system for the batteries.
Also very interested in the battery bms system
Eh 🤷♂️
Nice to see, wonder how much this setup costs, Probably 12k in batteries alone then the motor,
your about correct
And than the batteries catch fire OMG
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That’s s Sumkina boat,
Sure is Jeff.. Frankie's got this build down pat!.. gonna be SUMTHING else!..😎👌
4 min in , holy shit we forgot the drain plug
I wonder if it's actually putting out 50 hp my 10 year old mercury 9.9 on a 14' Jon gets 19 mph loaded down
Nope, these things are regulated…not sure why
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I think Butch Brown's all electric boat may give it a run for its money. But either way nice.
Never seen it, is there somewhere I can look it up?
What is the voltage of the motor?
96 volts..
Looks like a xbox controller he was using to control the motor
Considering the either or other resources, was this a private personal project or was this impressive boat project, how much $$$$$$
Over 40k now that it’s complete
stainless steel prop and up a pitch you would get 28mph maybe 29
😁
Hopefully we can test that theory!
@@fireantfishing how much was the motor and how much were the batteries ?
@@bartkeck9262
Atleast $15-$20k in all. The motor is just under $10k and the batteries will depend on brand.
VERY COOL, but I can see the value point being worth it.
What needs to be water cooled on that electric motor?
I was thinking the same thing!
Electric motors get hot, the water cooling keeps the temperature down so there's less electrical resistance.
Could you just hook up a good generator to the motor and provide the electrical current that is needed for the motor? I know the reasoning is to not have a combustible engine but I was just thinking that the batteries have to be really expensive and the more you use them the less life they have.
what are the specs on the batteries
Currently making another video with a little more description
That’s freaking awesome. What was the total price?
Not sure, but the batteries cost more than the motor
@@fireantfishing 😳
How long is that boat
This one is an 1860
I think all the chatter about comparing it to gas motors is from folks that don’t understand what an electric only lake is…..lol
I’ve never seen an electric outboard.....was that motor water cooled...?
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Yes it is
Sounds like a vacuum.
7 grand in batteries alone
Every year? 2 or 3 ? Motor is probably at least that much too.
12k in batteries. Will last 10 years, with better performance from the batteries. Keep in mind, built for electric only reservoirs
Needs way prop on that motor electric make torque big torque
Is this a personal home project or a sponsored, how much money did cost
$$$$$$
Personal boat project
Impressive, but WOW the cost will be atleast $15-$20K for motor and batteries.
Most electric only or idle speed only lakes have no wake rules too.
Extremely cool concept but I can't see it being efficient for cost or usage for most EO tournaments.
This is a valid point. This type of setup is not a viable option for most people. We have done a lot with Electric Outboards since the posting of this video. Ill have more content on these soon
How fast do you think that would go with a gas outboard? Does that elco really seem to be 50hp?
50hp gas outboard smokes that electric motor. Just the whole shot there is none on the electric motor. I can only imagine how much that motor cost and all those battery's
I’ve been in the market for an electric outboard and watching all the videos I can on Elco motors. I’d love to see an independent comparison test of a few 10hp gas motors against the “10hp” Elco and again for the 20hp motors.
True statement
Hopefully we could make that happen.
@@fireantfishing from the footage of the the video I noticed that it has more top end then hole shot. All electric tournament no one is getting a whole shot so no worries there. I wish I could fish theses tournament's that you guys are you doing. I try to get something like that going on in rhode island and we are basically 85% jon boat mods and a few glass boats that. Any input on how you guys game planned for the tournament scheduled. I know that shamm had alot to do with it?
I live half a mile from hard labor. As cool as this is I worry these boats will ruin our quiet little lake.
I agree its only a matter if time before these trendy new toys ruin the best parts of electric only waters
@@joshdavis4219 or horsepower limits on electric only lakes.
Why?... what's your concerns?..🤔
@@frankmasiello5891 Because you throw a big wake like a gas motor boat that can capsize many other electric jon boats that tend to be top heavy.
@@booster4470 I would understand, but it is because of said restrictions that make it that way. It is what happens when tech catches up. HP limits will be more prevalent then.
I dont really see the benefit in more weight and cost over gasoline engines? I would imagine the long term maintenance would be alot more inconvenient as well.
If you do the math the electric system is about triple the size/weight.
As far as "electric only" lakes, if they keep onto this tech they will eventually just HP cap those "electric only" lakes?
I feel like the tech just isnt there yet. As a mechanic, it still seems alot more dangerous, more expensive and more heavy.
When you factor everything into play, all of the key points are still drawbacks to combustion motors.
Much like home solar, when its calculated out, there really arent any savings over grid tied electric in the long run due to how expensive high voltage battery technology is to obtain and maintain.
This is also why we dont see the conversion to electric cars yet, they are too expensive and less profit is generated in production.
Your battery powered boat is shittin n gettin ,
Shit those Philippinos could beat that with a toothpick ,spit and a rubberband
What's the length of this particular boat, RUclips information is only as accurate as anyone being as respectable honest and as detailed as possible, I'm just looking for the longest possible John boat that can be battery powered, why have a ski boat, if all you want is a fishing boat,
1860
It takes too much space in such a small boat and it's got to be heavy as well which will make the engine burn the juice faster and the boat will go slower too because of all that weight. Ain't make too much sense. The top speed of my Yamaha 50 HP 4 stroke is 34 MPH!
How does that Yamaha help you to fish in "electric only" areas.
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I’ll go with a diesel outboard long before I go electric. The technology just isn’t ready for prime time and there is not infrastructure support for fast charging. I’ll be burning Dino juice for a long time before electric replaced any ICE for primary propulsion.
góíd idear
Experimental boat? Yup. Untested battery? Uh huh. PFDs? Nah!
a terrific example of what not to do and why people die in boats. Not a single life jacket was worn on a experimental boat. The max weight on a grizzly 1860 is 940lbs. That's before all the modifications. The boats overloaded before a single person got in. That panther electric steering is not for high hp motors. That alone is dangerous AF.
I agree on the life jackets. They were in the boat but 100% should have been on. Dont agree with the weight being overloaded before anyone was in it...? As far as I know, the owner spoke with panther electric steering before purchase to find out what was recommended. Although if this was mine, I dont think I would have that on. Does seem a little sketchy when you think about it
They are adults, they can make their own decisions. You sound like a child.
I guess paddles are a clear necessity .. not enough run time for me - imagine the earth that had to be mined to make those environmentally friendly batteries!
No life jackets!!
20gal. of fuel weight 127 lbs 🤷♂️
Valid point
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“50hp “ and it did mid 20’s ha ! I have a 16x56 with a real 50hp and it does 1
44 and it probably cost a 1/4 of that boat . Hell my brother has a 1448 with a newer 20 merc and it’ll do faster than that boat loaded with 3 guys and decoys , Plus all the other bs you need to duck hunt !
No thanks .
I get your point, however your boat would not be allowed in the lakes around here due to being electric only reservoirs. That adds to why this is pretty spectacular. Most guys with 16' and a 10hp electric outboard are only going 7-9mph 10 if they are lucky
@@fireantfishing His point was, it says 50HP and you are not getting 50HP. Why does this not bother you? You were ripped off.
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Use tesla battery. Smaller and holds just as much.
Ehh
That's less weight than a 120 4-stroke and 30 gallon tank
Wait wait wait…… did he build the motor him self and come up with the idea… or is he just buying everything to throw on the boat to make it the fastest electric boat? I’m genuinely curious… and why does it have and impeller and pump water if it’s an electric motor? I’ve never heard of a Tesla needing water…🤔
U should send this video to elon musk
Go for it haha
This is awesome, but there is no way that motor is capable of 50HP. Seriously, for the money you put into it you should get 50HP like Elco claims it is. 50HP is 50HP, it's not some made up number. This is barely 20HP. Elco should send you half your money back.
It should cost more to insure eventually when electric outboards are mainstream and there are many old ones as there is more potential for death with high voltage and water and especially aging parts. I think they charge way too much for those Elco outboards and they should be at least real with the hp numbers.
50 hp 25 100 hp 50 150 hp 75 similar to fuel. I’ll take it rather than choking on two stroke.
Hmmm ... I didn't see the use a kill switch or life jackets.
Lifejackets were on boat!.. all coast guard requirements were met!.. this was a test run for motor operation and weight distribution. Which was nailed by experience with electric boats and knowledge, Kill switch is on gear shifter, this was not during a tournament so not required but will be used when required!.. any more questions?..🤔
Anyone else geuss 26 right?
My first guess was 18-20.
@@fireantfishing I was surprised that it actually reached 26 😂😂
@@bradylaub7509 we were as well!
Brad, you would have won the bet. 😊
About exciting as watching wet paint dry, I’ll keep my tried and true two stroke that will run all day without a fuss and if I run out of gas I’ll pump in some more and keep running. Electric outboards, no thanks, the performance of that thing is on par with a turd.
Be 100% honest and don’t hold back…
The majority of our lakes are electric only reservoirs. A lot of companies are moving to electric.
So how does that 2-stroke work for you in "electric only" fishing areas?
Jan 6 was "Wall Street Putsch" part 2 I’ll never go to an electric only lake, buy or run a 4 stroke, or own anything electric that should be powered by a gas engine. Electric outboards, weed eaters, mowers, cars is a big nope for me.
400ah CAN NOT run a house for two days. not even close.
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