Testing The 5 Best Electric Boat Motors

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  • Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
  • We’re on the hunt for a new electric-powered dinghy. Spoiler alert, there are two that completely blew us away...and one that does 360s!
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    Timestamps if you like to Jump Around:
    00:00 Searching for an Electric Tender
    01:02 Benefits of Electric Boat Engine
    02:34 Downsides of Electric Boat Motor
    03:12 Our Tender Needs
    03:40 ePropulsion Spirit 1.0
    06:28 ePropulsion Navy & E Lithium
    07:31 MotoSkiff Electric Boat Motor
    11:54 ZeroJet Carbon Electric Tender
    15:34 360's With Your Groceries!
    19:40 Best All Electric Tender?
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    This is why we want an electric tender that continues this theme of self-reliance and sustainability. Because if we can cruise without ever needing to hunt down fuel on a remote island, well, that will be the dream!
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  • @dennisd6527
    @dennisd6527 Год назад +183

    Wow, that last one was amazing. Can't believe how fast it goes with electric propulsion. That was definitely the coolest, with the jet drive.

    • @markbernier8434
      @markbernier8434 Год назад +2

      Try a jet ski. Hold on tight.

    • @artat777
      @artat777 Год назад +4

      @@markbernier8434 Jet ski’s aren’t electric are they?

    • @markbernier8434
      @markbernier8434 Год назад +4

      @@artat777 No, but they are a charge and a half. You heard Nikki screaming at 10 knots. Try that at 50.

    • @TheFlooringInspector82
      @TheFlooringInspector82 Год назад +7

      @@artat777 Taiga makes a model called the Orca and it's an all electric jet ski.

    • @ohiorides7626
      @ohiorides7626 Год назад +11

      Jet drive for sure with upgraded battery potential that's the winning ticket right there

  • @johnc3225
    @johnc3225 Год назад +22

    Lol, my face was hurting from smiling and laughing so much when you were testing that Zero Jet. Then when you said it’s no longer a need it’s a want because it’s so coooool!
    If you want help deciding, remember he can’t put a price on happiness!

  • @kenketch1197
    @kenketch1197 Год назад +28

    You two are amazing in being able to line up these options to test. That must have taken a lot of time to arrange. Congratulations on a very informative video, as you always do.

  • @wildwestunlimited
    @wildwestunlimited Год назад +7

    What fun! ... and to be able to test the hardware for YOUR needs is PRICELESS!

  • @lrandrews838
    @lrandrews838 Год назад +45

    If you are basing your decision on “smiles per watt” I would say the jet propulsion was your favorite. I also think that’s it’s ability to run in shallower water, faster top speed, and the ability to run from danger/weather makes it a good option.

    • @53Peterbilt
      @53Peterbilt Год назад +10

      and don't forget that with a jet, there's no spinning propeller or other moving parts under the water, so for a diver, this is a huge plus too, from a safety point of view.
      Sure has my vote!

    • @JheregJAB
      @JheregJAB Год назад +6

      All good arguments for sure. But I would point out the relative fragility of a jet drive. They have wear items like wear rings, and it can be difficult to clear debris that gets lodged in the intake or impeller. Impellers are also precision items, which means you can't get one that isn't perfect in a remote location and deal with the imperfection, but on a traditional drive if the available prop isn't quite the same as the old one you can still make it work. Also not being able to pull the drive leg and take it somewhere for service is another maintenance drawback. I think where I live in the US I would love that jet tender, but I'm not sure I'd want to take it anywhere remote and rely on it at all.

    • @johnappleseed936
      @johnappleseed936 Год назад +5

      @@JheregJAB eh, The impeller in my 200 hp supercharged Sea-Doo from 2006 has never been changed is rusty as and so is the drive shaft haven’t changed the wear ring in years Rarely pick up any debris and I definitely run through a lot of seaweed and still does the factory top speed of 70 miles an hour like a champ

  • @eeessex
    @eeessex Год назад +33

    One of your best videos! I really enjoyed this one. One comment is that you could carry a small solar panel to recharge while you are on the beach, or diving, or whatever. One thing I did not hear was how easy to steal each one was and what the recharge time is.

  • @NZL50505
    @NZL50505 Год назад +8

    I recently made a similar conversion from a heavy RIB + petrol o/b to a lighter catamaran dinghy (True Kit 3m) + electric o/b (ePropulsion Spirit). Love it. Range anxiety is more significant than range limitation itself. Also bought the solar charging panel. Have kept my petrol o/b as a temporary measure ‘just in case’ but haven’t used it the entire season.

  • @joncarter3817
    @joncarter3817 Год назад +3

    Don't normally comment but I appreciated this 2 part series. I have been intrigued by the OC tender and the idea of an electric power system. You did a fine job of displaying the different options. Thank you.

  • @louislynge
    @louislynge Год назад +9

    The jet boat did bring a smile to both of your faces.... Can you really put a price on that?
    It seems like the ultimate adventure vehicle :P

  • @DCGULL01
    @DCGULL01 Год назад +19

    What an awesome test series- and, really relevant to the times. I'm NOT surprised at how few choices there are and the weight cost of ever increasing reserves- but, it's really nice to 'see it' in real life- working, running and providing service. Even though LiFePO4 is the best thing since sliced bread- it's NOT the answer to our dreams...yet!

  • @vickipearson2643
    @vickipearson2643 Год назад +3

    Thanks Nikki and Jason for this! We are currently researching for a tender and electric engine without the ability to get our hands on some of these new ones out there to try. This is immensely helpful.

  • @melissareid640
    @melissareid640 Год назад +1

    I am so happy for you guys, you have worked hard to archive your dreams! Praying for you your new boat and that you find the right Dingy! Good Vibes and Positive Energy to you through this part of the journey! Cheering you on!!

  • @DennisWintjes2
    @DennisWintjes2 Год назад +4

    Wow! Thanks for sharing! Like #11. It is a jet boat so you don't have the depth of a prop motor. FUN!

  • @fountainvalley100
    @fountainvalley100 Год назад +16

    Seems like waiting for the hydrofoil would make sense since you probably have a year or two to wait on the new boat. Also investigating if the 440 lbs weight limit can be raised would make sense or figure using your boom to lift a second battery pack that you would only load if you were going on an extended range trip.

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican Год назад +16

    You're not lying about things being scarce and becoming even more scarce for remote places. Take a look at the Inuit towns of northern Quebec for example. There, you can get your hands on a bottle of fruit punch for 10.79 Canadian Dollars, a package of vanilla cookies for 18.29 Canadian Dollars, and a box of frozen chicken nuggets for get this...26.89 Canadian Dollars, *NEARLY THIRTY DOLLARS!* I'm not kidding, but why is it this way? Because everything is flown in on a Combi plane (as in a dual passenger-freight aircraft) since there are no roads connecting these places to the rest of Quebec, and so whatever is taken off that airplane is what you're stuck with. And it doesn't help when there's an economic crisis.
    And don't sweat it, it is okay to make and admit a mistake, we are humans after all. We're bound to because nobody's perfect

  • @zerojetnz
    @zerojetnz Год назад +42

    Priceless reaction!! LOVE IT!! We are so glad you got to experience the 360s :D

    • @Tal256
      @Tal256 Месяц назад

      Any plans to bring down battery weight? Cool concept but at 50% more weight than an old torqueedo battery and about 30% more weight than a hot-swappable avator battery it adds up.

  • @Slonge92
    @Slonge92 Год назад +6

    For safety reasons, if you ever had to abandon the Cat, a gas tender will give you the range to possibly make it to land. Or, the speed to make it to shore if someone is injured.

    • @rajgill7576
      @rajgill7576 Год назад +2

      Gas will also allow you to go multiple tanks worth of range. While it may be possible, it would be VERY difficult to bring solar panels. Charge controller, and enough batteries aboard the tender to accomplish the same on electric

    • @sharonbraselton4302
      @sharonbraselton4302 Год назад

      wriñg

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Год назад +13

    You gotta do the missile test, it's the most important one! Allow me to aim a missile at your new catamaran, and if it survives, then it's a _Wynn_ in our books. And it's very important to thank Scranton for being the Electric City. Make sure you stop by Cugino's for the tasty bread
    Self-reliance is important especially when you have nothing else to turn to, that's been our situation and we're still going strong

    • @benjamingamble2407
      @benjamingamble2407 Год назад +2

      Who knew that the Supreme Leader has both a decent sense of humor and a fine taste for local Italian eateries in the Wyoming Valley? I credit his Swiss education.

  • @mattandtamsin
    @mattandtamsin Год назад +1

    Best test video’s ever. Love the fact you will be turning sailors onto electric motors. These technological break through will change sailors green, practical and future outlooks and our marinas forever!

  • @bmorrison0070
    @bmorrison0070 Год назад +2

    That was some great information on the tenders. It is really helpful for you and these nice companies to put this stuff out there for all of us. More demos please.

  • @billhanna8838
    @billhanna8838 Год назад +6

    WOW that Zero jet looked amazing , 20Kts & the hydra foil option looked so cool , Lov to see a test on that one , Thanks .

  • @jimmiller5476
    @jimmiller5476 Год назад +7

    I would go with a hybrid option. Gasoline outboard for high speed long-distance runs. Electric outboard for short trips to the beach or the dock. If the gasoline outboard fails to start you have the electric outboard as a back up.

    • @iantsears
      @iantsears Год назад +1

      but ya gotta carry both... :-(

    • @VisionaryGardener
      @VisionaryGardener Год назад

      They're trying to keep gas OFF the boat, though, so that they only need diesel for the boat backup generator.

    • @iantsears
      @iantsears Год назад +1

      Extra batteries for longer trips. If it were me, I'd carry a backup motor on the HH44 rather than a gas outboard as a backup. It'd be great if the same battery model and form factor were used for both the HH44 and the tender

  • @EinarOfBC
    @EinarOfBC Год назад +5

    The zerojet looked like a good option, but as others have commented, impellers can get damaged pretty easily. Check on availability of replacement wear rings and impellers as you will become very familiar with changing them out.

  • @Frindleeguy
    @Frindleeguy Год назад +2

    You were both smiling ear to ear the WHOLE TIME you were in the zerojet.... That motor on that OC is a winning combo! What a perfect dinghy, especially if you can hot swap a "get home"/"limp home" backup battery...

  • @scottsmith8546
    @scottsmith8546 Год назад +20

    Keep one very important thing in mind... The "dingy/car" is also your last line of defense to pull or push your boat around in case of emergencies.

    • @evinwhiteson4902
      @evinwhiteson4902 Год назад +5

      They have 2 electric high brid diesels man and several sails man.

    • @mattheww2797
      @mattheww2797 Год назад +3

      For thousands of years all people had were sails, I think they’ll be fine

    • @It-b-Blair
      @It-b-Blair Год назад +2

      They are well equipped/getting there, but you miss the point: emergencies happen.
      It’s a good modern technique that can save boats and lives.

    • @rustythecat2163
      @rustythecat2163 4 месяца назад +1

      @@It-b-BlairWisdom!

  • @CruisingMorningStar
    @CruisingMorningStar Год назад +11

    When we were cruising in our trawler we carried two motors…a 15 HP Yamaha and a 3 HP. The small motor was our “harbor” motor. Light weight, easy on and off and we used it traveling the ICW. Unfortunately this was before Torqueedo. In the Bahamas and the Keys we mounted the 15 HP for speed and range for trips to the reefs and going to town. Something to consider.

    • @haroldhechinger5850
      @haroldhechinger5850 Год назад +1

      Agree -- most of the time, use electric. In the event they need to make a long trip (like they did in the Bahamas), use the gas.

    • @leandroflaherty
      @leandroflaherty Год назад

      Redundancy as well.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 Год назад

      Yanmar 18 dusel out arrd version ong rage jes full dusel oowrred

    • @sharonbraselton4302
      @sharonbraselton4302 Год назад

      yamha 9.9 ekrec vest 56 nuoe range telsa 10 oerct 61 mike rañge

  • @philthomas6123
    @philthomas6123 Год назад +1

    i appreciate your togetherness, life with a your choice should be about ONENESS and developing this and I see it you you as a couple. THANK YOU for being a model that taking care of each other really pays off!! Love yall!!!

  • @DIYNauticalDream
    @DIYNauticalDream Год назад +1

    "My Cheeks are starting to hurt" lol... that's when you know you're having a blast. Nautical Smiles Per Hour

  • @TTM-GEB
    @TTM-GEB Год назад +20

    I vote for the Zero Jet : ) Recharge time will be of interest. The beauty of electric is that you will not need to store gas cans (that are a fire hazard) and with your HH44 electric infrastructure you have free solar power for unlimited use of your new Zero Jet.

    • @tihomirrasperic
      @tihomirrasperic Год назад +5

      the new ship will still have a diesel generator, which means that it will also have diesel on board

    • @AORD72
      @AORD72 Год назад +1

      If they have 3kW of solar and if they have the 10kWh battery then charging from. ~0 to 100% will take 3hours. 5kWh of solar 2hours. A 240v standard wall socket (international standard socket) ~4h 15min. A weak 110 10 amp USA socket ~9 hours.

    • @gonewiththewynns
      @gonewiththewynns  Год назад +9

      Exactly, keeping gasoline (petrol) off the vessel would be amazing.

    • @century2298
      @century2298 Год назад +1

      Indeed. No hauling and filling cans or the constant worry about spillage.

    • @whothatswho7756
      @whothatswho7756 Год назад

      @@tihomirrasperic I thought they ditched the generator because of the high solar output and large battery bank?

  • @jnbond
    @jnbond Год назад +3

    That ZeroJet is similar in speed/maneuverability to our Yamaha jetski/wave-runner (had it going about 70mph/113kmph this past week on a lake in northern Wisconsin only our machine is gas powered)! That battery speed though, was super fast!! And looked SOOO FUNNN!!! Loved the comparison of all the motors. Nikki- "My cheeks are starting to hurt!" (from smiling so much!) 🤩👍

  • @tigersharkzh
    @tigersharkzh Год назад +13

    One thing that the Zerojet has over all the other options you looked at is its battery chemistry. It has LiFePo4 cells, not NMC like the others. NMC cells have only a fraction of the life span of LiFePo4 and even more important on a boat is the safety issue. If something goes wrong with NMC cells, then you have a huge problem on your hands.

    • @AntoineGrondin
      @AntoineGrondin Год назад +1

      The ePropulsion uses LFP too, hence why they're so heavy versus the Motoskiff's NMC.

    • @pezpengy9308
      @pezpengy9308 Год назад

      lipo's can also do bad things if youre not careful. still the better battery but not quite there yet.

    • @tigersharkzh
      @tigersharkzh Год назад +3

      @@pezpengy9308 LiFePo4 aren't lipo's...

  • @imscanon
    @imscanon Год назад

    I really really like the flat sides of that dinghy a lot. It's so cool that they let you test so many. Love that.

  • @laurierodriguez1432
    @laurierodriguez1432 Год назад +4

    I'm a zerojet fan! Fun and practical✌️💜

  • @luckybeanzphoto
    @luckybeanzphoto Год назад +6

    I've been using an epropultion spirit 1 on a wooden dinghy (seahopper scamp) for a couple seasons as a full time live aboard on a fully electric monohull. It has been great, so much better.

  • @sickjohnson
    @sickjohnson Год назад +4

    The jet looks like a blast!
    Bad thing about jet impellers are high wear parts that need to be replaced more often as a bit of wear with significantly decrease your efficiency and thus range...from what I'm told.

  • @RobOnBusiness
    @RobOnBusiness Год назад

    That's awesome you did that - so impressed with how far this genre has come! Many thanks!

  • @fukkyoutube
    @fukkyoutube Год назад +5

    the jet system seems to be the most promising out of all the e-tenders I've looked into

  • @johnelick
    @johnelick Год назад +3

    That looked like a lot of fun and I learned a lot also. Thank you for sharing

  • @svfairisle
    @svfairisle Год назад

    We went electric a couple of years ago and would never go back. After a false start with an electric outboard that wasn’t any good we found the ePropulsion Spirt Evo and it’s been amazing for the last 18 months. We got it when we were in Venice which was good as a lot of areas are starting to ban petrol engines (I’m sure there will be more of that around the world, something to bear in mind) we had a problem with it in Turkey this year but they fixed it within a week, they have brilliant worldwide service ( they actually sent us a new unit!) something else to bear in mind. Loving the OC dinghy and that amazing jet pack, exciting times! Great review guys.

  • @sweetagony666
    @sweetagony666 Год назад

    your journey is an inspiration. I've always dreamed of having an electric yacht.. seeing you making it into a reality is just 😍

  • @alaingrignon
    @alaingrignon Год назад +11

    Amazing that you got to test all those prototypes, super fun to watch and does indeed make me hopeful that my future tender will be electric! Thanks so much for making these videos guys!

  • @whotknots
    @whotknots Год назад +5

    I am always so pleased to welcome you guys into our home and was wondering how effective a hydrofoil configuration a bit like those boards you rode could be, then even that concept made a brief appearance!😃
    Like all the others who say so I love what you do and how you do it so thanks very much guys, for providing some pleasantly anticipated and consistently interesting, entertaining brightness every week!👍

  • @DIYNauticalDream
    @DIYNauticalDream Год назад +2

    This is exactly what we have been wanting to see. The electric outboard motors test was great. We have to vote for the zero jet. that looked like you two were having a blast. Thank you for sharing this info. Maybe in 2 years the price will be more affordable.

  • @akathesquid5794
    @akathesquid5794 Год назад +1

    thank you for taking electric dinghy propulsion off my to do/consider list. As I expected we are years away from e-solutions.

  • @flosiin
    @flosiin Год назад +50

    The Jet drive looks like so much fun!
    You probably already thought about this. Is there a marine grade portable solar charger to take with the dinghy? You could let it charge while you’re on shore

    • @nigelha3699
      @nigelha3699 Год назад +6

      e propulsion have a solar panel option, I think !! at 3 knots its almost even input output, great for fishing during the day

  • @sailingwyvern9564
    @sailingwyvern9564 Год назад +3

    Electric engine is ten hours charge time, for two to three hours max use time, even with solar. You need AT LEAST one spare battery. I just got Torqueedo 1103CL - good in calm water which is not common in good sailing weather! - but its great to start and be sure it will start!!!!

  • @ldirk58601
    @ldirk58601 Год назад

    So much time and work in these videos. I am a land lubber in the middle of the USA but I appreciate all of your hard work. Cant wait to see what you get and how it looks on your new boat!

  • @rowleygoonan9828
    @rowleygoonan9828 Год назад +1

    Really interesting and useful. Many thanks

  • @joshuaianlong
    @joshuaianlong Год назад +3

    TORQEEDO!!!!!!! So many good new options. You should really check them out!

    • @sun2prop
      @sun2prop Год назад +1

      Torqeedo is a great option with superior battery technology. Their 5000 Wh batteries are are waterproof, smart and weigh around 80 pounds.

    • @joshuaianlong
      @joshuaianlong Год назад

      @@sun2prop I'm a dealer for Torqeedo. Love the product so I put it in my lineup. For many of the reasons you said.

  • @flynfishak
    @flynfishak Год назад +39

    Some very cool options there. The zerojet looks like a hoot. Problem is, you folks beach your tender a lot. With no way to cover the intake, you end up sucking a lot of sand through your jet impeller. Though it is intended to be beached, having run a jet into shallow beaches a ton, I just see maintenance headaches ahead. Hint: when you kick it sideways, do a half-reverse on the deflector bucket, it will keep the rotation going. :-)

    • @dmwi1549
      @dmwi1549 Год назад +4

      Agree: Salad shooters (jets) are fun, but not particularly reliable and beaches are their nemesis.

    • @sunnyqzado3455
      @sunnyqzado3455 Год назад +6

      also wonder how they do with alot of seaweed in the water.

    • @halburtonwarrington-minge3434
      @halburtonwarrington-minge3434 Год назад

      The worst thing thing that happens to a jet driven boat is a lily pad. Haven't seen you both go through a lily pond lately.

    • @shawnmurray9964
      @shawnmurray9964 Год назад

      @@halburtonwarrington-minge3434 mulch floating in the water is a fun time as well, speaking from experience ☺️

    • @gonewiththewynns
      @gonewiththewynns  Год назад +12

      OMG lilly pad pond...i can picture it in my head us tearing through and frogs jumping out of the way 🤣

  • @firewaterbydesign
    @firewaterbydesign Год назад +2

    I saw the your NEW boat!! She is beautiful and I absolutely love her color!! I will NOT say how I saw it, because I do NOT want to spoil it for you, but I am sure that you can make an educated guess. 😉 It was on another channel ever so briefly. I cannot wait for the Official Reveal!!!

  • @johnfarling1537
    @johnfarling1537 Год назад

    Thanks for the informative comparison!

  • @domcp711
    @domcp711 Год назад +3

    Zerojet takes the game to another dimension. You just have to get it. It will pay itself off, no doubt.

  • @venomguysydney
    @venomguysydney Год назад +4

    wow, the zero jet looks impressive

  • @LetsGoRoadTrippin
    @LetsGoRoadTrippin Год назад +2

    That Zerojet looked way too fun :)

  • @eyeballengineering7007
    @eyeballengineering7007 Год назад

    I've been thinking about this for a few years now. I'm glad to see it finally coming to fruition.

  • @Dunno513
    @Dunno513 Год назад +3

    Can already picture the zero jet hanging on the new boat

  • @maschwerer
    @maschwerer Год назад +11

    Is the jet more anti-theft since it’s built into the boat? Could be a big plus. 🤔. Hate to spend so much on electric drive just to have it stolen.

  • @jameskim62
    @jameskim62 Год назад +1

    Thanks guys, so informative

  • @TTM-GEB
    @TTM-GEB Год назад +2

    OR - Buy the least expensive boat/motor (gas) solution now and watch as technology advances. You will have the HH44 ultimate toy to entertain you (and all of us) that will overshadow a fancy dingy : )

  • @pontoonrob7948
    @pontoonrob7948 Год назад +4

    I am wondering, how much of the desire for electric dinghy is for the show you produce? For the optics. If I were voyaging I would want range and weight capacity. Load one of these electrics down with a month or so of stuff to transport and I just don't see it.

    • @jlsinchina
      @jlsinchina Год назад +1

      Agreed, the specifications don't meet the performance requirements.

  • @artat777
    @artat777 Год назад +56

    Just out of curiosity lol no pun intended. How long does it take to charge each one of those, I don’t think I heard you guys mention it? How pricey is that jet boat. I really liked that one.

    • @hogwild5844
      @hogwild5844 Год назад +8

      To be honest i doubt the charging will pose too much of a problem as the the boat will spend a lot of its time on charge from their new solar system.

    • @sailingwyvern9564
      @sailingwyvern9564 Год назад +7

      @@hogwild5844 the Torqueedo is 10 hours - most batteries are as they charge 10% per hour optimally. You need spare batteries.

    • @kevinvanlohuizen2709
      @kevinvanlohuizen2709 Год назад +5

      Jet boat was 18k

    • @timfremstad3434
      @timfremstad3434 Год назад +1

      @Graham Cook indeed

    • @century2298
      @century2298 Год назад +1

      @Graham Cook That will be a long wait til spring down under.

  • @bmunday
    @bmunday Год назад

    awesome analysis.. jetboat for the Wynn!

  • @MikeC19100
    @MikeC19100 Год назад +1

    Lots of testing and 3 good possibilities to choose from. That really looks like a lot of fun to test the various skiffs and it looks like your criteria keeps you focused on what works for your new boat. However, from a purely looks-really-fun perspective, the ZeroJet testing looked like it got you to smile so much that it hurt. Looking forward to seeing what you end up with. BTW: We finally got our storage facility consolidation finished and are officially at our first campground that starts our 2+ year adventure being full-time in an RV. Staying in hotels from May 16th until July 6th got old quickly, not to mention it was awfully expensive. I wouldn't call us nomads, but we're finally free to move about based on our own discretion and interests for the first time in 37+ years of our married life. We're still looking for a RUclips name before we start filming our adventures.

  • @pilotarix
    @pilotarix Год назад +6

    Nice video and, in part, shows our experience with an e-outboard.
    For about four years now, we have had the E-propulsion spirit 1.0. Initially as an outboard for an 18-foot wooden sailboat, now as the outboard driving the tender of Slàinte, our Beneteau Oceanis 40.
    After switching from Gas to E, we were pleased to have eliminated the gas smell and noise. It's a dream to glide quietly up a tributary of the Chesapeake Bay in the early morning and watch wildlife without the noise of a gas engine.
    However, there are downsides, and you already named them. At some point, we wished to extend range and speed, but battery cost and system weight are outright prohibitives for our 310 Zodiac.
    There is another vital point to consider, especially for those looking forward to leaving "civilization" as you did in the past. If one of those modern electric motors fails, it will be hard to get them repaired, depending on where in the world that happens.
    Our E-Propulsion battery dropped on a wooden deck from a couple of inches, and the lower housing part broke (almost shattered in pieces). No replacement part was available from E-Propulsion, and repair was not considered an option; instead, we were suggested buying a whole new battery. Finally, we were lucky to buy a used part from a defective battery and repair it ourselves. If that had happened somewhere away from the beaten path, it would have rendered the motor unusable. We like our E-Propulsion, no question, but service and repairability are something to consider. Sorry for that lengthy comment...😔

  • @kencraig6526
    @kencraig6526 Год назад +15

    Not only is the jet fast,no engine off the back that someone could walk away with. The jet also gets points for cool factor

    • @donreid358
      @donreid358 Год назад +1

      And it won't get banged up on rocks or wrap up a mooring line.

    • @actiaint
      @actiaint Год назад

      Skimming over shallow reefs a major plus

  • @chrisgray6988
    @chrisgray6988 Год назад +1

    Fascinating!! invaluable research professors!!

  • @johny7206
    @johny7206 Год назад +2

    get the zerojet for long range and the motoskiff is so light you can stow it for backup.

  • @LetsGoOutdoors
    @LetsGoOutdoors Год назад +3

    Just curious as to the type of watch you are using to track your speed?

  • @MNDooD
    @MNDooD Год назад +6

    That jetboat is awesome! Reminds me of our little Fling jetboat we have on the lake here in MN. You can do the same thing and 360 at high speed, we have yet to flip it, but try hard not to! 😆

  • @1uke4eva
    @1uke4eva Год назад

    Great video and one of your best imo! Well done for the effort it must have taken by yourselves and the ppl who supplied the motors.

  • @sailingcitrinesunset4065
    @sailingcitrinesunset4065 Год назад +1

    That jet dinghy looked like fun! Hope to see more of that foiling dinghy

  • @cmoakes18
    @cmoakes18 Год назад +3

    Wow the jet engine is super impressive that is an electric engine I'd definitely consider

  • @FlesHBoX
    @FlesHBoX Год назад +5

    Yeah, for me personally, the only real dinghy option for electric would be at least a 5-10kw motor and with external batteries, which of course, increases the weight of the dinghy. Oddly, the smaller the craft, the harder it is to go electric if you want that gasoline level of performance and range. One creative option would be making a bimini with one or two flexible solar panels to act as a range extender, lol. If you made a point of getting as high efficiency as possible ($$) it might just mean the difference between go and no-go if you can fit a couple hundred watts on.

    • @clasico2.044
      @clasico2.044 Год назад

      absolutely! PEROVSKITE solar cells are making flexible film a viable alternative performance and especially weight-wise. Soon available on the market and especially for Bimini's 😃.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 Год назад

      B u y whaler. 13. 40 hp eltrc outbard

  • @MortonsontheMove
    @MortonsontheMove Год назад

    Awesome vid guys! Electric is so where it's at these days that jet looked like a blast. , I'm planning on doing a conversion on an old ski boat from a yahama to an E outboard, looking at elco.

    • @gonewiththewynns
      @gonewiththewynns  Год назад

      We've heard lots of good things about the Elco. Our friend we filmed in Tonga made his boat with an Elco. The vid and his boat are called Escape Pod in case you want to see it on his boat :)

    • @MortonsontheMove
      @MortonsontheMove Год назад

      @@gonewiththewynns awesome thanks!

    • @sharonbraselton4302
      @sharonbraselton4302 Год назад

      buy ékrrc skí boàt

  • @srperk6163
    @srperk6163 Год назад

    I’ve watched you for several years. You get along so well, I bet you never fight.

  • @markanderson9008
    @markanderson9008 Год назад +6

    I like the jet drive dingy the best. It seems the most practical.

  • @HarryLovesRuth
    @HarryLovesRuth Год назад +3

    Do we have a pool going on how many comments are posted declaring that "electric propulsion is a bad idea?". Someone with better math skills than I could put together a spread between "you'll need an ICE engine in an emergency" and "lithium batteries catch on fire."

    • @It-b-Blair
      @It-b-Blair Год назад +1

      I wonder how many of them also tally the statistics with ice and regular electrical stuffs… it’s newer tech so any issues get highly publicized, yet the old stuff is old news so it’s not in the public eye. I’ve saved so much money with my ev, especially with how the prices have been this year. It’s crazy how entrenched in fossil fuels society has become.

    • @HarryLovesRuth
      @HarryLovesRuth Год назад

      @@It-b-Blair I'm constantly having this argument with my mother over what car she should buy. Now that plug in hybrid electrics are here, I think that's the no brainer choice. She would be mostly running around town and going to church. The hybrid part of the equation would get her over the mountain to see my nephews (a trip she takes about four times a year.). And I get that she doesn't want to sit around in Wytheville, Virginia for two hours to recharge, but she would have the hybrid drive train.
      IDK, man. People are really attached to their cars.

    • @keeganmacnichol4694
      @keeganmacnichol4694 Год назад

      It's true though. They spend a lot of time in very remote areas. If they have an issue with their yamaha chances are someone around is familiar with ice's and can take a look. If they have an issue with an electric/jet motor then they're sh*t out of luck

  • @jorgesailsoneday92
    @jorgesailsoneday92 Год назад

    Great video...I love that last one!

  • @markp8295
    @markp8295 Год назад

    Excellent video.
    Thank you.

  • @kirkb3473
    @kirkb3473 Год назад +16

    Fantastic video! So cool to see all the options in action, I really like that MotoSkiff option as a auxiliary back up. We are going with ZeroJet, and it would be cool to have a custom bracket made so you could slap the Moto on in a pinch if something were to need repaired. What are your opinions on the larger battery bank option from ZeroJet? Is it necessary is the range good enough for cruising with the single battery? That foil option could be a game changer!

    • @gonewiththewynns
      @gonewiththewynns  Год назад +4

      Right on! You've already ordered a ZJ? We had the 2 battery system and it is necessary if you want to go the distance :)

    • @kirkb3473
      @kirkb3473 Год назад +2

      @@gonewiththewynns I’ve been chatting with Delcan for a while now and timing our order to be delivered to Balance in St. Francis for when our 526 Mk2 is completed in ‘24. Hoping that there are a couple of improvements in battery capacity between now and when we take delivery. Right now it’s roughly a 9 month delivery we are planning on. Only debate is if we go with the 2 battery system and live with the added weight. First world problems : )

    • @AntoineGrondin
      @AntoineGrondin Год назад +1

      @@kirkb3473 I placed an order from ZJ but I think the batteries are a bit weird. Heavier than necessary (I'd use NMC for a dinghy on davits; fire isn't as big a concern, it falls in the sea if it happens...) and they're 3-4x the $ of the rest of the market. Sure they have high rated amperage but they're not alone like this and SuperB is milking it with the 3-4x price. Batteries are largely a commodity now.
      Hence; Zerojet, yes. SuperB battery: really not sold.
      We have a Navy 3.0 with E80 on a Highfield 290CL right now and it's too heavy to be convenient, and I'll experiment making a custom NMC pack to replace the E80. That'll inform whether I order the ZJ with or without the SuperB packs.

    • @kirkb3473
      @kirkb3473 Год назад +1

      @@AntoineGrondin very cool, thanks for the info Antoine. I’m thinking battery tech is going to rapidly advance over the next 5 years or so. Once solid state becomes a reality to consumers it’s going to make a huge difference in weight and range.

    • @zerojetnz
      @zerojetnz Год назад

      Hi @@AntoineGrondin we are glad to have you on board as our customer. If you have any questions regarding the battery, flick us an email at sales@zerojet.com :)

  • @Kevin15301
    @Kevin15301 Год назад +5

    You deserve the Zerojet What an amazing toy/tender.

  • @patient864
    @patient864 Год назад

    Wow. Great review of products. Manufacturers should be really happy to have their products highlighted so nicely and effectively

  • @andrewbouwer4445
    @andrewbouwer4445 Год назад

    That was amazing to watch guys, thank you.

  • @garygermain1446
    @garygermain1446 Год назад +12

    The only thing I don't like about going 100% Electric is lithium batteries sometimes catches on fire would hate to be at sea and catch on fire!

    • @SailingSunday
      @SailingSunday Год назад +5

      Lifepo4 is safe as safe as can be. It’s the lithium Ion that can catch a light. Even then they shouldn’t, I think it’s mainly the way people install these things that can be scary.

    • @SailingSunday
      @SailingSunday Год назад

      The thing I get more concerned about is lightning. We kept our starter battery lead acid so it’s separate from and BMS that will turn your batteries off.

    • @It-b-Blair
      @It-b-Blair Год назад

      Big car companies cheap out for mass production. You can get quality batteries with controllers to match. Keep the charge between 20-80%, and have a fault meter on every cell with an auto disconnect for the banks if one is detected. Electrical systems will catch fire when abused, and different chemistries require different care.
      If it’s a phobia, you could install the batteries like a life raft under the hull with a quick disconnect and a temp system that auto-releases if a fire starts. Horrible for the oceans, but better than a whole boat being crisped.

    • @monksuu
      @monksuu Год назад +3

      I thought that gasoline/diesel was more flammable than lithium batteries. ;)

    • @TheTennisCompany
      @TheTennisCompany Год назад +3

      @@monksuu Lithium batteries are capable of spontaneous ignition and subsequent explosion from overheating. Gas/Diesel is very stable. Gas/diesel is an accelerant, that helps spread the speed of a fire, but doesn't start a fire.

  • @JR-ii4lq
    @JR-ii4lq Год назад +6

    Zerojet will involve a lot of rowing if it breaks and you're in the back of beyond. Can you attach an outboard to it if needs be? With the other options you could easily. But ultimately Ill stick to combustion till e-outboards become more ubiquitous, are faster and the batteries have much better energy density.

  • @diane8885
    @diane8885 Год назад

    Informative video.
    Tnanks

  • @TheMorganMonroeShow
    @TheMorganMonroeShow Год назад +1

    Great vid. Thank you!!!!!!

  • @TTM-GEB
    @TTM-GEB Год назад +3

    And when the next generation battery is available, it should be a simple upgrade. (Ask Zero Jet what they plan)

    • @w8stral
      @w8stral Год назад +1

      There is no better option currently. It is clear they were already using high Cobalt content batteries for the high C rating. Until Sulpher batteries come of age... this is as good as it gets. Wishes are nice, engineering reality is yet another thing instead.

  • @Jay...777
    @Jay...777 Год назад +7

    Can there be any doubt - the ZeroJet is the way to go.

  • @clarisd
    @clarisd Год назад

    Great tests, loads more options than I thought and the last one would be what I would choose. By the by, got to see your new cat at the Miami show. Fabulous!!!

  • @Upliftyourbrothers
    @Upliftyourbrothers Год назад +1

    the nice thing about an outboard- its universal around the world. have problems with a one off custom electric craft- well it won't be fun tracking down parts/repair on the wrong side of the ocean.

  • @ds-ov9yi
    @ds-ov9yi Год назад +3

    The only big downside to electric outboard s is range, they last a couple of hours at best where a gas can last 6-8 hours on a tank (runtime)
    And the batteries alone cost more than the gas outboard .

    • @sharonbraselton4302
      @sharonbraselton4302 Год назад

      jet boat 4 hours 24 moh 96 .ioe range gaß jstsast long tyen hybedd ektriç

  • @cheriemoonquaker4215
    @cheriemoonquaker4215 Год назад +5

    So impressed with your winding down a selection for a tender for Curiosity II... Personally I got a kick out of the zero... But am not sure about the length or the weight, or if it is a fit? Thanks again for a stellar sharing of the life your living making decisions.. Such a Class act all the way around.. Love to you Both!

  • @KevinRempel_
    @KevinRempel_ Год назад

    So cool!! Stoked that you love the Zero Jet so much!! Thanks for doing a review!!🙌🏼

  • @paulamcnabb7940
    @paulamcnabb7940 Год назад

    I always look forward to your videos on Sunday morning.

  • @mybirds2525
    @mybirds2525 Год назад +6

    Keep in mind that the battery will in about 3 years be 50% of what it was. Also I like quiet and such but it is pretty nice electric if slow speed is fine. I would be afraid of going to dock for food and not having energy to get home. Also TEST the batteries for floating you will test this in real world even if you don't want to.

    • @TheFlooringInspector82
      @TheFlooringInspector82 Год назад +2

      Using the same technology as our current electric cars they can expect about a 2.3%-4.2% loss each year in efficiency. That is of course dependent on how much they use it and their overall maintenance on the batteries themselves. If they follow the manufacturer's guidelines for maintenance and recharging they can bet on closer to the 2.3% loss. Even still you can chalk it up to the same kind of expenses they would incur over time from keeping up with fuel, oil, and maintenance of a gas powered tender.

    • @charlienevergold3654
      @charlienevergold3654 Год назад +2

      Not with LiFePo4. None of these electric motor companies are using AGM’s anymore. Give it a year or two an no boat builder will be using AGM’s. LiGePo4 can go 100% to 5% 500 to 1500 cycles with only a 20% loss of capacity. With good management and not dropping below 30% you can get 6 years out of a battery. Relion makes a good battery but they are expensive.

    • @Michael-dh2sw
      @Michael-dh2sw Год назад +2

      The ePropulsion guarantees 3000 cycles at 80%. Usually this kind of battery will perform even better, if treated with care.

    • @charlienevergold3654
      @charlienevergold3654 Год назад

      @@Michael-dh2sw the battery tech is finally starting to snowball… like it should of 10 years ago. Solid state tech is just around the corner and capacity will increase 5 fold.

  • @jmbrunson34
    @jmbrunson34 Год назад +4

    At this stage of the game, it would be extremely easy and inexpensive to ask the hull manufacturer to design more structurally robust davits! One never knows what needs the future might bring.

  • @Allen-by6ci
    @Allen-by6ci Год назад +1

    That Zerojet looked pretty sweet

  • @-RyN-23
    @-RyN-23 Год назад

    Can't lie I have wanted to see a all around electric test like this, love it