How Much Faster Than a Trolling Motor? Newport NT300 electric outboard motor full review
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- Newport NT300 full review - low cost electric outboard motor with good range. I spend some time with the new electric outboard motor and review the Newport Vessels NT 300 3 hp outboard. Likes, dislikes, speed test when compared to a 55 lb thrust Minn Kota trolling motor, weight, the features, range, and run time. I also show a cost comparison to a similar size Mercury 4 stroke gas outboard engine.
The Newport NT300 electric 3 hp outboard motor directly competes with other small electric outboard motors like the ePropulsion Spirit 1.0 Plus, Mercury Avator 7.5e, and the Torqeedo Travel 1103C electric outboard motors that are all very similar in power and capability. The difference with the Newport NT 300 is that it does not use or require a proprietary battery and is set up like a trolling motor - always requiring a separate battery (or batteries) of your choosing at 36 volts.
After several trips with the Newport NT300 over a few weeks I am sharing my thoughts of what I like, dislike and learned about this new 3 hp electric outboard motor. The Newport Vessels NT300 3hp electric outboard is not a trolling motor and not meant to compete with larger horsepower outboard engines. This electric outboard is only well suited to compete with 2.5 - 3.5 hp outboards and is ideally suited for smaller boats and shorter range like other similar types and size electric and gasoline outboards.
Full disclosure: Newport Vessels provided me with this motor and battery but I am not under any obligation or contract to produce content, endorse or recommend their products.
A few weeks after making this video, I got a chance to try out the ePropulsion Spirit 1.0 Plus and that video is here: • Why the ePropulsion Sp...
00:00 Introduction
00:14 Top speed of a Newport NT300 in a 14 foot aluminum boat
00:33 Top speed of a Minn Kota Riptide 55 trolling motor in a 14 foot aluminum boat
01:18 What I like about the Newport NT300 electric outboard
02:27 What I don't like about the Newport NT300 electric outboard
04:56 How loud is the Newport NT300 3 hp electric outboard motor?
08:10 Range and range anxiety with an electric outboard motor for a boat
11:26 My range test with the Newport NT300 3 hp electric outboard motor
12:30 Newport NT300 run time information
13:35 Recharge time for the Newport NT300 40Ah lithium battery
13:58 The cost of the Newport NT300 3hp electric outboard motor
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Great video, I grew up on Grays Creek. I thought the area looked familiar and then saw the chart showing your range and was delighted to see my old home waters.
Great review and thank you for the level of detail. You're a real pro!!
best video I've seen so far. Thanks for all of the information. Wow.
FINE BUSINESS!!! There are some lakes around my neck of the woods that are restricted to electric motors only ! CHEERS from Westcoast Canada!
Such good info Wayne! That's a solid little motor! It does seem a little louder than our ePropulsion Navy 6.0 EVO, but it's still way better than a loud gas guzzler!
Thanks - that's good to know!
I spray my look alike Anderson ports with corrosion x aerosol. this video is spot on. Woo!
Thanks for your review. FYI: my 24lb Watersnake on my 14 Hornbeck at full power cruises at 4.4 mph with a range of 9 miles with a 50AH lithium battery.
Very nice!
Looking forward to the NT600
Since I am not sure someone explained it already: the reason the *engine* gives a voltage reading and not a percentage might be because it's an *engine* not a battery. I'm pretty sure you can run it with any 36v source, including a lead acid if you wanted to... Lead acid batteries have a distinct discharge curve, same goes for LiFePo4 and so on. If you have a motor with a charge indicator based on voltage, it will give wrong readings if calibrated for battery type A and running battery type B.
The voltage readout in combination with the discharge curve would give you approximate charge state, unless you're onder load which will cause the voltage to sag. In addition to voltage sag under load ( and most of the time, you want to check charge while under load, and the more load the more voltage sag influences the reading ) you also have for instance for LiFePo4 a very flat discharge curve. This means a certain voltage can actually indicate a range of charge, and not a set charge. A 36v LiFePo4 the difference between 50% charge and 60% charge is 0.16v and that size step is repeated more then once.... there goes my LiFePo on battery screen readout value... since it only shows a single decimal and rounding with these small steps can be the difference between 50% and 60% charge.
If you want a reliable charge state, you need to eliminate voltage sag from your measurement so ideally without load.
With my LiFePo4 batteries, if I really am worried about charge and I want a good reading, I stop my trolling motor.
Your motor showing how many Watt your're using is actually your best aid, it just takes some math. A 40Ah 36v battery has 40.8V charge at full capacity, this gives it 40.8 * 40 = 1632Wh
Some systems allow you to 'pair' your motor controller, screen and battery together in a way where the system knows what kind of battery it's using, and it can track charge state to better estimate charge levels even under load. With that I mean, it will detect when a battery is connected at 40.8v or above, and set's capacity to 0. Then it will use the controller indicated amp draw to calculate how much Wh it drained from the battery since that last full charge state, which it can combine with a voltage reading with load correction if needed to give a very reliable reading.
Some displays / controllers don't even need explicit pairing with a battery but will 'learn' it on the fly as long as it can observe the full voltage range it can determine the battery type from that, and it could learn capacity by taking a full charge. minus used Wh, combined with a voltage reading indicator of charge state. And then build it's own date more and more, even adapt to batteries losing capacity over time.
One simple of way of thinking about electricity is a water hose. Volts =Size of the hose Amps= pressure in the hose Watts= The amount of water that comes out. Volts x Amps= Watts
Hello Wayne , I've watched your video on the electric motor , and I get it ! Yes the range of distance , the simplicity of use , the fact that its much easier to use. The fact that basically anyone with little knowledge about engines. But did you ever think , what if it breaks down, where do you take it to be repaired .
Yeah - I imagine there's going to be several years before there's any option other than sending it back or throwing it away.
I don't know about where you live or that Newport brand motor, but the repair shop 3 miles from my house advertises repair and service for Torqeedo outboard motors
@@TJDST4 That's good to hear!
It's not just a matter of how much faster it is, but how much more power it has to cut through wind & currents. A little more powerful could make a big difference in those areas.
Numerous times, my Minnkota trolling motor struggled to get me back to the boat launch in strong winds, and currents in the bay & rivers. It wasn't so much the speed why I upgraded to a Torqeedo 1003s, but more that I didn't want to get stuck and the speed is a nice bonus. On a small lake the trolling motor was generally fine, but at the other places I mentioned it wasn't. I didn't want my boating adventures to be limited with some great places to visit around here and in my travels.
The wake (and presumably speed) of your Newport motor looks a lot smaller than that of my Torqeedo Travel 1003s. This is likely due to the kind of boat your using I'll assume. I didn't think the Torqeedo was faster or more powerful from what I've read. The current model, 1103 is 10% faster/more powerful than the 1003, which is no big deal to me. My inflatable reaches hull speed at 3/4 throttle anyway and is fast enough for me. I've tested the motor to the max in the past 9 years or so going against strong winds, currents, riptides and against the strong ocean surf. There is no way a trolling motor would have been able to this.
One of the things I love about the Torqeedo is the battery. I have a small inflatable that fits in my sedan's trunk and very little room in my car or on my boat to store a battery. The Torqeedo battery weighs just 13 lbs, is extremely easy to carry with a nice handle vs the car battery (deep cycle) and it fits on top of the motor saving space.
You can see for yourself how much faster the Torqeedo motor goes with an inflatable a little larger than mine but similar looking by watching the RUclips video titled "Moteur Torqeedo 1003 S sur annexe". Advance to 00:50 Notice the size of the wake, and how fast it passes the channel markers. Nothing like a trolling motor.
Why not just get a gas engine😅 accessibility to different places?
@@logan2japan466 Here's why:
I transport my inflatable inside my sedan. I'm uncomfortable storing a gas motor inside my car. I think the fumes would really bother me and likely be strong for a while even when not storing the motor in the car. I also like not smelling it on the water, although it probably wouldn't bother me terribly.
I don't have a shed or safe place at my home to store a gas motor or tank of gas.
I like the convenience of not having to go to a gas station and mix the chemicals.
I like that an electric motor when idol and quiet is always on. It also helps my sail rig "power sailing" and getting out of the way of motor boats or rouge waves.
I visit some locations that require electric motors only and one is right in town, but most places allow gas motors I visit.
I also feel an electric motor is generally easier to start than a small gas motor as I've watched people struggle with them for years. I'm not a fan of pulling the lawn motor string, often several times. Probably not good for my wrist either
You need need annual maintenance on an electric motor (and factor in that cost and your time), but they should be serviced every 5 years or so.
There are some advantages of a gas motor however. Range could be much better. Most of my trips on the water are well under my battery's range, but occasionally there is a location I'd like to visit where I'd need greater range. A gas motor is much less expensive. In terms of owning them for many, many years a gas motor is probably a better long term investment. Also far more places that can work on them.
@classicarcadeamusementpark4242 that is a very good reason, I had not thought about that. I have had my motor leak in my truck bed before because i didn't close something.👍
@@logan2japan466 Exactly. I have a sedan with all micro fiber rugs built-in like all the sedans I've had. Imagine gas or oil spilling on that? I'm pretty sensitive to the fumes. Even transporting a gas container can bother me, and the fumes are usually there for a long time after too. If I had a boat on a trailer it probably wouldn't bother me.
There is a mount you can buy for a small car to transport the motor on the back of a car like a bicycle stand. But I like to take my boat/motor on trips and I like having it completely concealed inside the car. Seems like less worries. That kind of stand also requires having a trailer hitch welded to your car. If I were mostly going short distances to local places, it would be something to consider. I visit tourist places too, and when I'm done boating, I don't have a boat on a trailer or worries of people seeing it and maybe vandalizing it. People are crazy today. Parking in a tourist area is difficult enough without dragging a boat behind you.
Hello there, I have been a subscriber for many years, great info video like always.
Question: How we can acquire on of the shipping boxes for the NT300, we contacted N.V. but they weren't able to help us.
Electric is the future way to go, and my experience with Newport Vessel is the way I'll go. On a lake they are fine, but get out on the river or bay, I want a little more HP. Great review .
Maaaaybe in 500 years. But with current tech they’re never going to match the efficiency of an ICE. Nor will boaters want to lug around a thousand+ lbs in batteries.
EV batteries are massive and heavy. Where are you going to put those batteries on a boat? Not to mention as you add more weight you lose speed and range.
Simple physics. Stick a big 90HP electric motor on a boat and the batteries needed to power it and you’ll be far slower than a 50HP ICE with less range.
As someone who uses trolling motors exclusively for my propulsion, Newport vessels is trash. They had to send me parts every month to keep it working and every time I had to re wire it myself. Check out haswing, way better technology and have been bomb proof for me so far. I also maintain my gear meticulously.
The boat lugs all the weight, and besides 3 depth cycles 12 v @ 100Ah in a series circuit about 220lbs of batteries . Just tell one of your fishing buddy's they cant go.@@Cerus98
Guess I've been lucky with my NV 55 it has never let me down.
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@@barrywarren4221 - It sure does. And the more weight you add, the less capacity you have and the slower you go. You can’t just dump bigger and bigger batteries into your boat and expect a linear gain in performance. 3 12v aren’t going to power a 60+HP electric motor, not by a long shot. As the motor size goes up, so does the vintage requirement.
Have you seen todays EVs? The floor is literally all battery. But cars don’t have to worry about top speed or getting on plane.
You’re looking at 1,000lb+ in batteries to power the typical bass boat with electric. You’ll be lucky to be under capacity let alone go any faster than a snails pace.
Not to mention the fact that all those batteries pose a far greater safety risk than a tank full of gas. Good luck putting out a lithium fire. Even letting it sink won’t stop it.
Sorry but the tech just isn’t there and won’t be for a long time.
Good comparison video! For my money, I can get a 55lb thrust trolling motor and 100ah lithium battery combo for $500 or less. By the time the Newport, battery, and charger are purchased, you are pushing $2500. I believe that price discrepancy is just too hard of a pill to swallow for most small aluminum boat enthusiasts.
Assuming the Newport motor is comparable to my old Torqeedo 1003 in speed & power, there is no comparison to a trolling motor. I had one prior to my Torqeedo and at some locations I almost didn't make it back. Against a strong wind & currents there is a gigantic difference. On a smaller lake a trolling motor would generally be acceptable, but out in some bays and rivers you shouldn't be out there with a trolling motor. The speed is also a bonus.
As you said, your pushing $2500 for that setup. The Torqeedo has been around for more than 12 years and they are widely distributed and I believe much easier to find a factory service center (I have one an hour from me) and much easier to buy parts. I have several places around me that sell Torqeedo motors and all kinds of parts for them. I also prefer Torqeedo's battery that is just 13 lbs, fits on top of the motor of my small boat saving room and much easier to carry to the water. And we're not looking at a huge price difference for "the real thing".
What about the props. Are they the same.
Have you considered doing a test/evaluation of trolling motors and their performance using lead/acid batteries vs Li batteries? I'm currently running a Garmin Force w/lead acid batteries... Trying to decide whether or not the investment would be beneficial, as it would also entail me replacing my current on-board charger with a new one that can charge either Li or lead/acid batteries. For a 3 bank Minn Kota, it's another $600 or so on top of the cost of the battery(ies).
Hello Wayne, you can always buy a second 36V battery as a back up as well. Like your videos and oh yeah I'm enjoying my 2023 Sea Doo GTX 170 God-bless ciao.
I was hoping to hear an update report on the Sea Doo - that's great!!
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I guess you're chipping away at my outer shell of stubbornness, I'm starting to think about one now.
Excellent motor and they are only going to get better with time
They’ll get better sure but they’re never going to come close to a ICE. Why? Battery size/weight.
EVs are extremely heavy and still lack the run time between charges. And have you seen the size of their batteries? You’re not going to get 60HP performance on a battery that will fit in the average bilge let alone 300+ HP.
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@@Cerus98lol, 60hp!? Comparing apples and oranges.
Hello, this is exactly what I was looking for. I have a plywood boat made with thin plywood. It is 12 foot long, 8 foot at its widest and has a wheel house that is 54 inches tall. The overall weight of the boat could be 600 pounds or so.
Do you think a 55lb trolling motor could be enough to go on a calm lake ? All lakes around me are electric only. Thanks
I don't know if that left tab is for reverse? I think it is supposed to be engaged at all times but I could be wrong. I will agree, the display could be more involved, but i just downloaded the app- hoping to get a better reading on the battery while in use. Simple formula: divide your watts (in use) by total watt hours on the battery. Also agreed on the tiller, you can't let go at higher speeds. Just keep those connectors greased and they'll be fine... Overall still a great motor and more than happy with my purchase!
When the tab is in the raised position, it allows the motor to kick up if we hit something going forward. The idea is to prevent breaking the motor if we hit a log, stump or rock. When the tab is down it prevents it from kicking up, and is pretty much essential in reverse because it wants to pop right up. I have been playing with the phone app a little more and it does seem to provide much better info!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy thanks for clarifying that! I don't recall reading that in the manual but very good to know. I did find out the hard way about reverse. I usually keep it locked but coming into shore, that is no-brainer. Thanks for your videos, I'm local to MD myself and you actually helped in my decision to buy one of these for Prettyboy & Liberty. 👍
Nice video - good info! I'm curious how the speed compares of the 3hp Newport to the 55lb Minn Kota. One thing I've noticed is that, just like many competitive products, electric motor manufacturers love the ambiguity of pounds of thrust vs hp vs power in watts! I'm a retired electrical engineer and I see inconsistencies in the marketing! I am very close to making the leap to electrify my 2016 Native Slayer Propel. I'm looking at the kayak-specific models like Newport NK300 and Torqeedo 1103. Bixby is so much weaker - not likely the one for me. Either 3hp, NK300 or 1103, should push me close to 7mph - I want to get to my spot faster, then use my pedal drive! However, a 55#, 70#, or even 80# standard trolling motor is a much cheaper option (especially purchased used). But can it come close to a 3hp Newport or Torqeedo. By the way - I can likely get the NK300 and 3 10 pound Lithium batteries for less than $2000. The Torqeedo 1103 with the larger included battery is $3000 (similar range to Newport).
I went from a Minn Kota trolling motor to a Torqeedo 1003s. No comparison in the amount of power/speed. I had a Minn Kota 30 lbs, and I called them to ask how much more powerful/faster a 55 lbs would be. They said don't even bother, it will be minimal and I'll be disappointed. From the videos I found online, this seems to be true.
I have a hybrid inflatable kayak/Zodiac style motorboat/sailboat. You can see clips on my RUclips channel under my name n8goulet. It's a Sea Eagle Paddleski (I have both the 435ps & 437ps models). On my 435ps, I almost didn't make it back at several locations due to the winds kicking up, or currents. I didn't want to be limited where I could take the boat and have a lot of great places around here that require something more than a trolling motor, so I spent the big bucks and upgraded. A Bixpy is comparable to a trolling motor.
Great vid Wayne.. I do want to point out (not to be a nag) your speed test with the riptide may be inconclusive, you may have lost speed having it not centered on the transom. My vid will be uploaded soon, but I got 4.5mph on my 55lb thrust on my inflatable using the APC prop. And with the power it consumed and the battery I have, I can run it wide open nearly 6 hours straight...
In your situation, there may be no advantage to having one of these 'bigger' electric outboards.
Just found your channel and subscribed. I scrolled threw your videos looking for battery information. Do i need a marine battery for my 50 lb thrus or can i use a reg battery . And if i get a marine deep cycle do i need a deep cycle charger?
car battery = poor
deep cycle marine battery = ok
LiFePo = best
It is quite obvious that NT300 would be faster. Mabye you could compare it to a 3 hp petrol outboard in weight, features, range, run time. I have a trolling watersnake 55 for trolling and a 3,5 hp 2-stroke for transport. If i would change something it would be the petrol for a NT300. Good review, thanks
Try using one of the current 112lb thrust Minn Kota options and you can use Li batteries with any of them.
I just took a peak on their site. All the ones I saw of that power were bow mounted for moving large boats to troll fishing. I didn't notice any transom mount motors of that power. Did I just miss them?
Also, how gigantic/expensive are those batteries?
@@classicarcadeamusementpark4242 Since YT keeps removing my reply with links....Minnkota Riptide Transom 112 (Item# 1363860) and Dakota Lithium 36V 60Ah (48lbs)
Hey Wayne, a few weeks ago I ordered a 24v 86lb thrust trolling motor for 155$. I put on an APC prop (10X8m-LH) and ran it, full speed it used right about 1000w of.power and I got 5.1mph. This was in a not so hydrodynamic inflatable boat, I wonder what it would do on your boat!!!
Yeah I’ve often wondered about how different props would be.
"As a big dummy like I am". Welcome to my world 😂😂😂😂
The only way to really compare it would be to use a Minn Kota that is also 36v. Id like to think that the Clamp on 112lb Minn Kota would be as fast or faster than the electric outboard. These 2 motors are really not in the same category, yet they have comparable results.
its not, nor build quality as high as nt300, brushless motor (could be 15%+ more efficient) , prop pitch is higher on nt300. all this stuff is what makes it different than a trolling motor and faster. it's just electric. I guess the NT300 could be a trolling motor on a large ocean going vessel.
A fair comparison would be to swap the prop out on the Minn Kota for one with more pitch. 55s are made to push bigger boats. With the small boat used in the test, it's probably maxing out on revs and not showing its true potential.
They would both need to be adjusted for it to be fair by your terms, no?
@@suffulufugus I'm not familiar with the Newport's setup, but the impression I have is that they are targeting a market that wants to replace gas powered outboards on smaller boats. This would imply they are spec'd with a prop pitch appropriate for speed. However, if that's not the case, then yes; both outboards should be optimized for the test to make a valid point about which has more potential.
Maybe I am missing something. So many are happy with this review. However, the Newport was running at full speed and the riptide at half....and for the riptide the Newport was dragging in the water. Other comments about changing the prop and centering the trolling motor on the transom. Sure the Newport is better, and as mentioned at a cost. I can set up the trolling motor and a small outboard and still be ahead. Needs vary , but I am not sure this is an accurate comparison , just on performance of the two alone.
Generally speaking without knowing the specific battery. You can say a 36v battery is fully charged at ~42v and dead flat ~30-31v. The computer in the battery will shut off before you damage the cells with low voltage.
Wayne, please do a speed test on the Newport vs the gas outboard, I think the Newport loses and by a large margin say guessing 25% slower minimum. Please confirm this. Also any.reason why the trolling motors at any lbs thrust cannot go past max at 5mph?
Yeah I am working on fixing my 2.5 Mercury to test it against this. I just barely got to 8 mph once with it in my empty 12 foot boat. I am not sure all the reasons why trolling motors max out such a low speed, but I have gone down that rabbit hole several times over the years to see if there was something that could be done to get more out of them, and it seems that all the tweaking, tuning and prop switching only provides very minor gains and often shortens the life of the motor dramatically.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy I currently have a 47lb minkota that gets my 10 ft jon at 4ish mph. I bought a 24v 240lbs trolling motor off ebay thinking I would definitely get my 10ft jon to fly....max 5mph! that's with 240lb thrust!
Replace the lead-acid battery with a 100ah lithium iron-phosphate and there is no weight difference at all. You would get twice as much run-time from the conventional trolling motor, as well.
Good points!
What battery are you using? Max electric rpm is determined voltage. The bigger and better the battery the less voltage sag under load so the higher the top speed.
In the video I was using a large 12 volt lead acid that people typically buy for their trolling motors.
Hi Wayne, do you think one of these would be suitable on a Hunter Medina 20?
Thank you 🙏 😊
I'm not sure you'd get enough thrust from any motor this small if the currents and winds aren't being kind. But people have used old Seagull outboards on sailboats in the past - which are about the same power.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy Yes, maybe a slightly more powerful electric outboard would do me, I really want to move away from the petrol outboards, thank you Wayne ☺️
Will it cause a problem if its wet? No. Gap is too big; rain droplets won't be able to touch the two together. Additional corrosion on those terminals would be a concern.
Now if there was a puddle in the boat, you may have a problem.
But you're looking at it wrong - your concern should be the battery shorting out, then getting a thermal-run away on that lithium battery then reacting with the water.
If that battery starts smoking, start swimming.
Very interesting Wayne. Electric motors are becoming competitive for low power ranges (
Yeah it might be a few years still!
Is the shaft long enough on the Newport? In discussing noise you cut to the wake, and it shows it stirring things up like the prop is just below or at the surface! Of course it’s noisy… and creating a big efficiency loss. Get that prop down.
This boat has a 15" transom and this motor isn't sitting shallow - it might even be sitting a little deep.
6:07 my Yamaha 15 horse you twist twords you I believe it’s the same with most outboards
I meant electric outboards like trolling motors.
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Yes but what is the price difference because I know the electric motors cost a whole lot more than the gasoline Motors
I cover that near the end of the video!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy I put my phone down for a second and must have missed that part I will re-watch video thanks for putting out good content. Would love to see more videos on smaller gasoline motors.
A regular trolling motor is simply designed to move a certain size boat along slow while fishing! Nothing can do this better Bow mounted and speed does not matter in this application! The Newport and others are really competing with Outboards! Trolling lures behind the boat is the exception!
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I decided against this motor for RIB dinghy because once you add up the motor, 36v battery and charger, ICE just offers more power and range. 6 or 8 HP with a built in tank is small and light.
Yeah a 6 or 8 gasoline outboard is certainly a faster, stronger longer running option.
Can you get it on plane or adjust trim?
I can do some tweaking, but I don't think this motor will get this particular boat on plane
12v 100AH Lithium batteries are now $199 :)
Hey Wayne, can you give me a call when you’re free? Thanks.
HOW MUCH IS A 36 VOLT CHARGER?
If you buy this battery from Newport the charger comes with it.
After the BS they pulled on me with a warranty clame I'll never buy a Newport vessels item again!
ahh the $1000 battery- no body rides for free-
range is irrelevant, it's the run-time that's something that can be measured. and newports runtimes are correct.
The problem I see with a battery powered motor is when you go on a multiple day trip and don't have any way to recharge the battery
yeah this might not be the best for something like that
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I'm sorry but the comparison between the two motors just doesn't make any sense at all! "Hey, want to compare a 600 W motor to a 1000 W motor? Whoa, who'd have thought that a 1000 W motor is 1.64 times faster than a 600 W motor???" Well, 1000 W is 1.67 times 600 W! What a surprise!
As others have said, a fair comparison would be between the NT300 and Minn Kota 80, which has about 1000 W and also costs about the same as the NT300. I figure I'd prefer the Minn Kota since the motor is submerged in the water which makes it much quieter.
apples to oranges. Newport NT300 = 1300 watts, 55lb minn kota = 625 watts. - Try comparing to a 80lb trolling motor, and then we'll see that it is about the same.
also, at "36v" lithium battery is 42 volts fully charged and 25 volts dead. just fyi, you asked in the video. so, 36v was theoretically 1/2 charged, but the lower half has much less juice than the upper half, so, 37% sounds right, not 50
Every trolling motor I have encountered seems to deliver about the same speed regardless of pounds of thrust.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy If you go apples-to-apples on input power (NT300 vs 80# thrust) then the NT300 will only be slightly higher top speed due to its prop. Troller props are made to top out at lower speeds for better battery life. If you use the same prop for both motors, you're likely to see nearly identical results from two motors of similar input power, whether they're labelled troller or outboard. You're correct that top speed is similar across all small electric motors, but it's not just trollers. Manufacturers want us to believe there's a big difference between trollers and eOutboards so they can double-dip on us, but they're identical inside. The top speed wall is a phenomenon of electric efficiency versus water drag. All electrics drastically lose efficiency in their upper RPM range.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy You are correct that they all pretty much go the same speed, but that is pretty much only on calm water with no head wind. They are all designed to go around 5mph, but if they incur too much resistance, the propeller will "slip" instead of moving the boat as intended. Also, they may all be designed to go 5mph, but more wattage = more torque and will get to that speed quicker as well as push through the wind better. I am playing with a redneck barrel boat this summer and have used a 12v troller (45lb) and 24v (80lb) on the same boat. So, everything was equal, but the 24v had twice the battery weight and of course went alot faster. It went faster in all cases with it because my barrel boat is very inefficient. My goal is to run minimum 5hrs at min 3mph. I guess I'm uncommon in that. Like you said tho, nothing really matters except being able to run as far as want at an acceptable pace. Top speed will only drain your batteries fast and shorten your trip.
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A far comparison would be a 12v against a 12v
Not to mention the 12v 100amp will last a lot longer than that 36v 30amp
None of the 3 hp electric outboards are 12v - they are typically 36 or 48 volt.
That's what I'm saying you can't compare the two. The 3hp isn't worth the 2mph the battery is too expensive and doesn't have much life.
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Yes it is certainly quite a bit more money up front - but it should be less hassle and easier over several years when compared to a similar gasoline outboard.
Inexcusable for them not to have a capacity meter on the motor. Thats a fail.
Wayne next time don't talk through the sound test.
It's hard to capture the true sound - microphones pick it up so much differently than our ears.
Your comparing a apple to an orange. Not really a fair comparison. 2 completely different modes of equipment
Several people have asked "how much faster is the Newport NT300 than a trolling motor" - which is why I did this comparison.
It's really not fair to compare a 12 volt motor to a 36 volt motor. It's a good video but you are definitely not doing anybody a favor doing videos like this. Maybe just try reviewing the motor by itself.
Lots of people have commented on other videos saying this is the same thing as a 12 volt trolling motor. If I make that video, I can guarantee people will comment "How is this any better or different than a trolling motor?"
It's not worth it. That Newport on full speed will drain most batteries in minutes. I can run my Minn kota wide open all day on a lead acid.
Several people have said that running a Minn Kota at top speed for a long time causes some serious heat issues.
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Comparing a 36v lithium powered motor to a 12v lead acid. What a joke not a proper comparison what so ever
Get a 12v lithium of the same AH and compare that weight to the 36v, it will be way lighter and last wayyy longer, allowing you to travel much further. Very flawed comparison
Many commenters on other videos with this motor had asked for a comparison to a trolling motor.
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