Elco 50hp electric outboard motor Review | TBNation | Tin Can Crew
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This is excellent--I appreciate you being early adopters of this technology-thank you!
Please never use that music again
Yeah... that music is pretty... limp wristed...
Never would have gotten that top speed if you'd had that extra weight of life jackets.
🤣
The law is to have enough life vest/life preservers for everyone in the boat and children under a certain age have to wear them.
😅
It would have been faster without all the doughnuts and burgers on board
Great video they’re going to be a lot of people interested in building one of them one of a kind keep it going 💯💪🏿
Fantastic vid on this engine. Thanks.
That's a pretty impressive setup.
mike you better be here for the unveil of the boat completed. awesome video brother 👍🏼💯
i will let you know for sure man no worries
Man you guys rock ❤️
How about a solar power roof or canapie?
Now if you could get it to do that without tons and tons of batteries I'd be interested... too expensive too heavy... till they get it right I'll be using a 60 horsepower, with a 6 horsepower kicker, at 80 years old I don't have time for them to get it RIGHT LOL good stuff thanks for posting
I hope you get to see battery development reach its peak only to be able to see a nice all electric outboard motor.
@@fyescas777 Thank you so much for your response...
In 100 years, perhaps micro nuclear powered outboard engines will become very common. They do not need to be charged for life and can be used continuously for decades or longer. Therefore, longevity is important for everyone! Haha.
That’s my boy Troy! That boat is badass
RTR Brother!
That thing sounds so cool... Like a jet engine but not obnoxiously loud...
Yo that’s my hometown lol. Wild setup. Hope to see y’all there someday.
Came out great! Amazing how far electric outboards and batteries have come
@@TinyBoatNation , Ryan really did an amazing job!
I was watching reviews on theses boats an the subfloor rivets are steel is that true are was that on older models
I hope these things become more popular.
Awesome! When I finally get out of this student debt (SOON) I’m gonna save and buy a dang boat and put an elco on it. I have too many awesome electric only lakes near me.
DO NOT BUY THIS GARBAGE ! They are ripping you and every customer off. check into inboard Golden motors or even there outboards . It is a company who has been producing electric outboards in other countries since the 1970s . This company like many in this "modern" outboard business are ripping off customers like crazy.
Student debt. I’m sure I’ll be paying it off for you soon.
What is the range like ?
AN ELCO 120 and I'm sold man.
I think they make an 80 inboard
How are you steering it?
Definitely the sign of things to come . But pushing that segment of the sport to upper limits of being affordable. I can see rules changes coming . Or that level in its own class to keep the playing field level. The guys with the deepest pockets will only be ahead for so long before someone screams unfair . Maybe im wrong.
The tech has been there for electric outboards and modern battery packs for decades. This is using golf Cart battery tech from the 1960s with a bit of modern controller to boot. Things to come better be better than this over priced joke of a product. Selling 1960s tech as a massive improvement on 2021 battery tech is and asking more than 25x the actual cost is criminal.
I’m not the only one who refuses to tag my boat trailer!
I feel like it makes sense that this is the future for fishing boats. Its quiet, can move slow for trolling, has all the power you need and of course no more dealing with fuel (especially at almost $8/gallon as of the time of this post). However the power supply is an issue that needs more development, gotta get that weight and cost down.
Awesome! Looked into going 20hp elco...buuttt total cost was around 15k with controller charger batteries motor and so on...just to much $ for me
Just as a point of reference I have an 1860 tracker with a 50 horse motor on it and it does about 31 miles per hour max speed but average is closer to 26. The kicker however is that my boat has a hard time getting on plane with two guys in it let Alone 3 so I can tell that the torque is considerably better out of the electric motor.
Thank you for the feedback, we were really curious about how this would transfer to the gas side. Very helpful
I’d make sure prop pitch is correct and look into weight distribution, should be able to get on plane easy in your boat with a 50 horse
@@primelegend9504 yeah I had the same thought so I actually bought a four-blade narrower pitch and it does get on playing a little easier but now it's a little slower top-end. Still has a hard time getting on plane under certain conditions though
I have a 16ft with a 40hp and it gets on plane with 5 adults no problem
I have an old 16 v Jon boat with a 60's 18hp motor. Solo it goes 14mph but with three dudes in it like this it would be slow 8-9 mph.
Electric outboard technology is still in its "teething years" .....as improvements in motor design are achieved (more efficient & quieter) as well as lithium batteries (lighter, more compact, greater charge capacity), these things will not only get better, they will get more affordable as manufacturing starts scaling up. Great video 👍
100 years worth of development that has been constantly beaten down by the Big three automotive. Remember before the advent of the electric starter for ICE’s 2/3 of all vehicles in America were electric or steam
Those Inductively coupled 3-phase AC motors don't need improvements. They are already push 94% efficiency. And the motors aren't whats making the noise. Not sure what you're referring to. The electrical energy storage method (batteries), are the ONLY thing that can or needs to improve.
The motors and controllers are already optimized, it's the battery that is the weakest link. Although they are just starting to look like they could tip into viability.
Hi what is John boat? Thanks
Guys having a good time without showing off, just proving what they thought.!
so what is the price of this complete motor set up , not including the boat, but every thing about motor batteries, labor etc
Love that! It’s the future!
I live 1/2 mile from the boat ramp on this reservoir. I have a v12 I dream of making an all electric yak killer but just not in the budget. This build cost some $$$.
Propane is the way!
I agree but states have to change regulations to take advantage of propane. The best part of propane is any gas engine can be easily converted. I will never understand why propane has been used for warehouse forklifts for so long but is overlooked by the boating world. Clean, simple, cheap and very little weight gain on the boat and takes up very little space. The only thing electric has is it is clean.
Any reliability issues?
Go Georgia. Fastest in Georgia. Hell yeah.
What commercial batteries will give this or better results. Does it require Lithium Batteries. How long will the 50 run? Will it troll?
Per testimony from so.e people close to me who have this motor, there are actually a lot of problems with overheating and cooling. It's cooling system needs to improve.
how far can you go with full charge , would you recomend it if you were next to a 160 square mile lake?
It has problems.
@@TinyBoatNation where lies the problem it as?
chjef 170 mioe icean ryn 160 mioes perct keft in vaters
Fossil fuels still has the current electric vehicle batteries beat hands down when it comes to net energy produced per pound of weight.
Going to be a lot longer than what people think before those batteries come close to what a tank of gas can do.
Especially on larger applications. On smaller motors (3hp, etc) the cost stops mattering so much when the gas motor is broken down (again) and perpetually won't work while the electric just works.
Exactly
yss it wilk
@@peterjorgensen3 thats odd. i have had countless small outboards that are still running agter 50+ years. some simple maintenance and they last forever.
How long does the charge last at full speed?
Like 20 min before it has to cool down, or something like that. It can only run WOT for a period of time.
Really impressive..! But, I had to yell at the screen when I saw your tech waving a ratchet wrench around between the un-insulated battery terminals and the aluminum frames. There is enough energy in that battery bank to melt a hole right through the bottom of that boat, not to mention the burns to the unfortunate soul holding the tool. Take a page from the electric drag racing book and insulate everything in the power string. The skin you save may be your own...
I like the smell of a gas engine but I'm glad all the noise is going to go away eventually, won't miss that racket
4 stirk very quit
Take it out and do a speed run with everyone lying down. To reduce wind resistance.
Ok, now get the short shaft Elco 50hp and put a jet pump on it! 50/35 electric jet skiff. Put it on a SeaArk 1660 MVJT.
yes
chef want 15 kw batery
Holy trible music!
It’s hard to figure out how noisy the outboard is, cameras always go wide open on gain. What’s your impression of noise levels? Gears Whining?
It's a pretty strong whine. It's not as thirsty as a guest outdoor but it is fairly loud. You can hear it from a distance
Looks like lithium batteries from seaquestbattery are the way to go.
It sure it neat but I get 24 mph with a 25 HP Yamaha f25 on a decked out 1860
I wanna see it on a havoc
should have brought motor up one notch. was still leaning towards transom.
How many batteries do you need
All of them. 🤙🏼
He said it was 96 volts. So it depends on the batteries you use but if you're using 12 volts running in parallel that would be 8 batteries. In other words its going to be heavy as a MFR and cost a ton of money to replace the batteries every other year.
@@discoveryoutdoorskcfishing236 plus your run time would be about 30min max at wot given a 5k usd lithium battery set up.
@@discoveryoutdoorskcfishing236 One of the advantages of lithium batteries is that they are supposed to survive more deep discharge and recharge cycles than comparable lead acid batteries. The deep discharge cycles common in trolling motor use can be hard for lead acid batteries to endure.
@@discoveryoutdoorskcfishing236 is 96v at 400 amp hours. Good for apx 2 hours wot.
25MPH with those three big old 3 sandwich eaters in it! Damn!
Hahahaha
Less than cost effective for most doing a DIY build I would think at MSRP of 8999.00 + batteries. But I am jealous LOL
A new gas powered 50 HP ain't exactly cheap for DIYers either lol
@@GadgetMan777 Most DIY guys will buy used.
Out of curiosity - miles or nautical miles?
Reached 24mph 1st successful test run.
Silly me, what I meant was was it mph or knots (nmi/h)... Thanks!
anyone seen a 150 hp yet?? that would be cool
you'd need a barge load of batteries
Am I missing something here, why does is need water to run out of the water why does it need a water pump?
Mercury 600
where I can see the advantage of an electric boat is where your home is on a lake, no gas marina, and you constantly have to purchase gasoline for your boat.
Very true!
they would freak at my local city lake (100 acres)I'm sure they would ban it or impose a speed limit
Very expensive for a 50hp! Motor $7899, comparable to price of gas motor. Batteries $598 x 8 =$4784
Total $12683.00
That’s exactly what I was thinking!
23k is the total for the motor and battery set up.
@@Troy-dc8hk holly mother of god!
Little off there..
Factor in fuel costs for 10 years too. Let's say you go out a few times a week, you can expect at least about $1000/yr. Multiply that by 10. :)
I was surprised that it has a cooling system
The batteries need a coiling system
The motor has an internal battery? I’m familiar with Ray and Torquido electric motors which are usually 48 volts with an external battery bank
What’s the cost comparison to a gas 50hp?(to include batteries needed). What’s the weight difference between the batteries and fuel? What’s the range of the electric motor? How long does it take to charge all those lithium’s? How long will the batteries last? It’s a water cooled electric motor?....
The ads in TBN videos are absurd btw. 60 seconds, then ads rinse repeat.... I remember why I watch on my computer with ad blocker.
@@TinyBoatNation so it’s not quite there yet for pricing. Cool to see a start though
If you boat A LOT, gas/oil will probably creep up very fast in 10 years too. I have a tiny 6 gallon tank and only do recreational boating on weekends half the year, which will still cost me $5000-6000 in fuel in 10 yrs, not to mention $1000 here and there for maintenance like carb rebuilds and what have you. If you boat a lot you can double those numbers, maybe more. You could certainly build this with half the battery using lead acid at a fraction the price and still have tons of power.
@@GadgetMan777 using lead acid would be about 1,000$ in batteries. Probably have to replace them every 3 years. So 3,000$ in batteries in 9 years. But there is a significant problem with using lead acid or agm. As that batteries drain you lose voltage, at 40% you’ve dropped below 12v. And as you continue to drop damage can occur to the battery. At 10% or lower the battery is effectively ruined and the life shortened drastically. Unless you’ve got the hook up with a guy to warranty them every 3-6 months you’ll be replacing batteries at least once a year. This is why lithium is so popular now for trolling motor batteries, because you get full 12v through the majority of battery %. But they only last 2-3 years. On the surface battery life of lead acid is 5yrs and agm 6 years, but not with the kind of use that boat owners put them through. I’m typically replacing 1-2 batteries annually, usually my trolling motor batteries. So no even over 10 years of practical use the electric outbound will still cost more. The only time I see this being worth while is for someone who lives on a lake with a dock, only fishes for a few hours so the batteries don’t get drained more than 50%. But for any angler like me who spends 5+ hours per trip, 8+ hours for tournament days, it’s more cost effective to keep the gas motor even long term.
@@primelegend9504 I agree lithium is the way to go, but batteries can last a really long time if managed and maintained correctly (don't over drain, keep them charged). I have a few batteries near 10 yrs old that have been used on trolling motors, but I also keep them happy on a solar charge controller set up. In the end, it's all about what kind of application you're using it for and if it works for you
@@GadgetMan777 I don’t have solar, but I currently have 2 lead acid batteries for my 24v ultrex. Calm day I can easily get 10+ hours on the water battery life gets to about 50%. Light/mild wind 5-15mph, after a tournament iv got about 30-40%. Heavier wind 15-20mph, I start going 20% and below.
Lol 25 is slow slow slow for a boat in Louisiana we put 150s on John boats🤣🤣
im still sticking to the gas outboards
cool story bro
The Motor is only 1400 more then a Mercury 4 stroke 50HP and the same price as a Mercury 4 stroke 60hp. I buy it in a heartbeat if had a way of charging it the boat is Docked not near a electrical source for charging thats the major problem with this if you could charge as easy as filling up I would buy it over a gas outboard.
I heard lithium batteries like water.🤔
so does electricity
Like a weed eater or mower or car...when they make them LESS expensive than gas...then I'd be interested.
Quality ain't cheap.
Cheap ain't quality.
Time is irrelevant.
3:50
I don't think people are realizing what the cost of a set up like that. I think you could buy 2 new 25hp gas powered for the price of thAT SET UP. How come no one has ever used the minn kota electric outboard motor. that set up rocks and crazy how things are changing. Just think if Elon musk wanted to make boat motors
@@TinyBoatNation that's what I was kinda thinking that is was 20k plus. Still huge props to them for what they did . reason why I am TBN for life. Pushing the limits
Probably would hit 45mph with a 50hp gas engine on that boat. You wouldn't be hailing 400lb of batteries around is likely why it is slow.
I know what it cost to put 6 lead batteries in my golf cart $$$... I can buy a lot of fuel for the same money... Well, I used to be able to. I guess we will be forced to use electric boats in the future?
Pretty much, yeah.
electric golf carts are such a racket lmao
I prefer to let the people that jump on the bandwagon first to foot the bill to work out the problems, which will too numerous to list here
Sir I m 1k Likes 💗
Gotta wait untill the tech becomes reasonable. Its very expensive plus all the batteries $$$ even more weight too
25 what, mph knots what.
In my 18 foot tri hull Tuffy with a 1989 50 hp Merc I could get 40 + miles per hour . 21 is what I get from my 25 hp motor . This is not the answer.
Yes very true,
but if you want to have unlimited range as a solar powered craft without access to fossil fuels this is incredibly advantageous
I cannot believe the people designing and pioneering this technology have not beaten your gas powered unit on the first try.
Untill the motor price gets out of "There's no place like home" land and the batteries are not equal to the cost of "Unobtainium" most people will not be able to own a boat powered by an electric motor. Boat rentals will be so sky high as the battery replacement will stop that business dead in it's tracks. Also with batteries that just go "dead in the water" I see lots of problems. Main thing is the batteries. There will have to be something to charge and discharge the batteries while the boat is not used. Batteries have to be used or they die. When you use batteries there are only so many charges and discharges and then they need to be replaced. If they are left alone even on a trickel charge all winter, every spring you will lose 50% minimum.
I used to agree with you until gas prices kept on going up. I think somewhere down-the-line there will be a healthy medium regardless of price
Does anyone actually listen to this kind of music from the beginning and middle? Otherwise, great video.
my favorite part is the crappy music over the sound of the engine we all clicked this video to hear.
Nothing but a novelty because it certainly is not practical.
1100 lbs of batteries, at $4800.00 and a $9000 motor and a $900 charger system, OUCH expensive
@@TinyBoatNation Deep Cycle AGM Batteries (8x)$4,808.00
96 Volt Power Supply
8 Batteries - 12V/220Ah | L-20.6" x W-9.4" x H-9.4" | 143lbs. ea. right from the website
How much does gas and oil cost for 10 years? Likely somewhere between $5k-15k depending how much you go out, probably a few thousand in maintenance too.
@@TinyBoatNation how many watts was it using on top end?
Sell me your tiny boat !
how fast, how far, how many hp, how much??? you didnt tell us anything.. NI
Вот так должен ехать лодочный электромотор 15 кВт ruclips.net/video/vLlf4S8VSts/видео.html
Nice motor! How do i buy one? Where?
Next up elctric lakes will be only trolling motor power lol..... People already bitching on electric lakes with all the new electric motors people are running . I don't see how a 50hp 4 stroke is bad for a lake ? but all the farm run off and jets flying over are fine lol.
Why folks lift IFS trucks aka a Chevy, why Chevrolet went with a IFS setup for their "HD trucks" I'll never get that. Watch a few sled pulls and you will not see many Chevy truck in that sport. When you do find a Chevy in a sled pull video, you will see what I mean. The independent front suspension cannot handle the torque and literally has way too much give as the front tires toe in and bow excessively breaking CV's and tie rods like it's going out of style. There's nothing wrong with IFS and they do ride quite nicely but there is nothing Heavy Duty about it and GM is misleading their customers on how durable their HD series trucks really are.
Too bad you need 300 batteries to run it.
You had 8 minutes to give me information......I got lots of slow motion water churning and bad music. You could make a video just as informative as this one that was under 1 minute.
@@TinyBoatNation I don't want 1 minute videos. I want 8 minutes worth of information!
For christ sakes turn off the music and sound effects
🌍💚😊😊😊😊😊👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 I have a speed boat mmmmmmmmmmmm
never gona happen. Get stuck up the river with dead battery vs walk maybe a mile for gas and back in business
A solar roof could turn the tide.
Lol, if I ran out of gas on my lake (in TX), there's no gas stations to walk to. You're pretty much going to need to be towed.
Easy fix on dead battery ,it's call a generic generator
10 full gass and its empty....
Please clarify
@@TinyBoatNation i mean 10 pulls full gas top speed…im not a big fan of electric motors
JESUS CHRIST LOVES YOU SO MUCH!!!!
Why all the stupid music that covers up the real sound levels of the boat motor
No thx, toooooooooo expensive
Not faster than mine!
Wow...I'm impressed. But again I'm not impressed at all..
I feel yuh
More crap for rich mofos to push on us ol boys that just want to catch a fish!!
Playing loud stupid music over an electric outboard review. Smh
JESUS IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE!!!!!
Jesus' story was/is a lie... grow up...
Fairy tales to keep you docile... nothing more.
Extremely important bits of information that was most likely intentionally left out.... range at full throttle and other speeds, time on one charge, charging time, charging cost on your electric bill, everything made in China (and we all know the quality of Chinese made outboards), only fresh water, total weight of package, total cost of package, and warranty and repair services. You can boast all you want, but limited range, tons of drain on electrical grid charging,... which does not make it green, as the carbon footprint is larger in one outing than "any" gas powered outboard, a crapload of weight, extremely toxic to the environment batteries when their life is at an end, extreme cost of replacing batteries that do "not" last forever, and resources to build the batteries and motors requiring extensive and toxic dirty mining operations makes the case that these outboards are nothing but a liberal wish and a waist of time and money.
Am I missing something here, why does is need water to run out of the water why does it need a water pump?
To cool the motor