I Bought A $400 Electric Outboard From Amazon (DOES IT WORK?)
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- Опубликовано: 11 апр 2022
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I found this $400 boat motor on amazon that is suppose to be equal to a 5HP gas engine.
I take it out and put it to the test!
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We have the 8HP 48V Hangkai, Been running it for 2 yrs now in electric only clubs No issues at all. The one change we made was switching to Lithium batteries. We usually make long runs and Lead acid were good for half a day before losing power, Now we can run full power all day, No worries... .. Love ours
Thank you for your comment. I want to switch to electric also. How many amo hours do your lithium batteries need to run all day in that Hangkai 8hp 48v? I was assuming that I would need a minimum of 100ah & it seems like that costs over $2k & would be about 100 pounds of batteries. Any suggestions?
@@r.williamcomm7693 it would be 100lbs of lead acid/agm/gel..
Lithuim gets quite a bit more AH....crazy more...with the weight of 2 or less....and they are well sealed, dont buy into the "lithium catches fire in water" nonsense because they are sealed well...and will be inside.anyway...the problem uou ask????
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I am New to owning a boat!! I have the same motor from Amazon. On the site it listed the battery requirements as any 120ah deep cycle. ( Or at least that is what I gathered) so I bought the motor and a battery. When I realized I was going to need 3 more batteries, I figured it would be cheaper just to buy us a smaller electric outboard motor that can run off of 1 12 volt battery. I. My point have a brand new one of those motors if you want it I live in San Francisco I'll give it to you for 50 bucks come and get it
You've obviously never thrown a battery in the water.
@@strawberryboones4780 would you ship it to me. I was just medically retired from the army and I have a small plastic boat. I have the batteries laying around.
You and your wife fishing, you are living the dream brother!
I would love to open it up and see what motor and gearbox setup is in that. You could probably bolt the drone to a pole and get nice quiet thrust. Love the fishing boat, nice setup.
Excellent video!!! Thank You 🙏 for taking your time and sharing this video
Being from Georgia myself, I had to see what you said about it. I've been looking at these things for some time now. They ain't cheap!!! But I have pondered the thought of getting one on a new boat build. No matter what you find they all seem to make noise. This one seems pretty good. That set up would be great here in the Ozarks. 4 batteries is some weight for sure but you got to have it, I agree as well. Glad I checked it out!!! That's something I'm having to consider as well. I like your channel. You're information on this one really helped me determine the true pros and cons. Thanks for sharing 👊
$400 for a new electric OB isn’t cheap?
Is the noise from the motor or the cooling fan? Next review could you include amp/hour battery specs and what this motor draws for time running so we can get an idea of range? I’m in South Florida so I’m interested to see how it does in the heat also. Thanks for putting out some info on this thing. So hard to tell if these things are junk or not.
I use trolling motors to eliminate exhaust smell and noise. I bet twin 86 pound trolling motors would be quieter than this motor, and no heating issues. Also redundancy in case one fails.
Thanks for the video review. Helped. Thought these would be cool for a small boat but I’ll stick with a minn kota for our John boat. I would not be able to handle the gear box noise.
Have you thought about changing the prop and seeing what the impact would be?
Cool. Thanks for sharing. The energy density of gas (and diesel) is crazy high. I'm sure battery technology will improve and there will be some new motor and even boat designs, but gas can't be beat right now.
Not even close unfortunately. And what's more is about 91% (I think) of the energy is actually wasted in a combustion engine. So there's 9 times more power we aren't even using in gas and diesel fuels.
Not true. Price of 12v 100ah lipo4 is 300$. Get 8 and never fill up again.
I took the risk two years ago. Same thing no reviews in English, however I don’t regret buying the motor. Faster then my minn Kota and great for electric lakes
I've got the same motor and everyone I've talked to that has one says you need to take the prop off and take the plate off behind the prop and add oil to the gears. I did mine and it's been running great. I can get two fishing trips before I recharge!
Did adding oil quiet the noise any?
Yes , did the oil make it quieter? I have a four stroke gas motor and it sounds quieter. I have a 10ft 6in porta boat. Made of plastic . I really like it. Light and is quiet. My 5hp gas motor seems quieter than that motor. Adding 4 batteries would make boat too heavy in back. 4 batteries weights more than boat.! Lol. About 2 times as much. Boat motor is 52 lbs.
That makes sense, the motor was over working & boat not moving because gears were starved for lubrication. I also read thar a bronze bushing wore out in another comment. Always pull plugs for lubrication. Im a millwright though, second nature for me.
Nice video. I have the same motor. If you notice, it is a 5 hp motor with a 1200 watts power consumption. That does not add up as 746 watts equals 1 horsepower. So this is just over 1 and a half hp. It still works well enough for my light boat and I have two 48 v 100 amp hour batteries so it can go full speed for 8 hours.
So it's shit. Like buying a car and getting 2 pistons and a door.
It’s a 5 hp “equivalent”, but not truly 5hp. It’s a weird thing about electric marine motors.
@@the_wanderful_life Doesn't sound equivalent to me if it's only a 1.2 KW motor.
It's 300% efficient! :)
I'm green to motors and batteries for. Boats. Which batteries and how many do you recommend for this little setup.
Thinking about purchasing one of these for my 12 John boat. I fish mainly electric only lakes in GA, and this seems like a worthwhile buy for the price.
Thanks for the video, learned a lot, order mine soon.
This next generation of boat motors is going to be a game changer.
Any way to check rpm vs max rpm? Prop sounds like it could use some adjustments.
Hope you are still loving the boat! To this day my girlfriend is still mad I sold it!! Glad to see its still being loved
Do those motors have a lube in lower unit? Also is there clearance under the cowling to put some sound-deadening material still remain clear of the fan and vents?
specs of your batteries and the time you can run your set up would be good to know in your follow up review
Best review I've ever seen hands down.
very good observations. The 3 hr range of batteries is also dependent on water conditions. That 3 hours can become 2 hours when the water gets choppy and the wind picks up. Having a second battery is the easiest solution. I have a canoe so I can paddle but with a larger boat you better have a backup motor!
It will still last 3 hours but youre not going to get as far, if the motor is ran full power in both situations
seen a couple of these out there in the bayou, most noticeable was the 300 pounds of batteries needed for a four hour runtime,they also seemed really loud, and the benefit of using a decent trolling motor to sneak up on fish is lost, some might be okay with the tradeoffs
That's lead acid not lithium though 👍
Lithium is about 1/3 the weight snd twice the capacity at the same time 😎
Great review- appreciate it! Was surprised how loud it is
I wonder if they could make this with duel props for quicker take offs . I seen pontoon boats with a electric trolling motor up front with two props for steering. One on each side of the pontoons.
I did see a YT video of DUAL e-outboards on a cruising sail boat (35-40 foot). It may be a few years before counter rotating matched motors ard available.
That little outboard is pretty cool!
How long do you get out of the batteries.
Excellent that your biscuit fishes with you.
Two words: backup oars. Appreciate the review brother!
So how do you like it now that you've had it for a while? Had it stood the test of time?
I have this exact same motor. I got mine off ebay over 2 years ago it was a open box special I paid $250 for it. I use it in salt water for its whole life, I just rinse with fresh water after each use. I have replaced the shaft seal and gear oil once. I also stepped it up to a 67.2 volt battery over the 48 volt it works perfectly. Plus gave some slightly higher rpm, no overheating issues ever even over 90 degrees out in the direct sun. It is a little noisy for electric but full of torque. I think the motor is a great deal. I run a 32 ah 67.2v lithium battery from my surron e bike
Thanks for sharing your experience mate! I was just about to search for any longevity info I could fine. Cheers!
I was thinking the same thing. It’s a little loud for electric but for the price and durability sounds like a great buy
How long can u run on the 32ah? I have a lifep04 48v 20AH from an E-mini bike project was going to utilize. Will be running 14 ft John.
3-4 hours running mostly wide open
@@organicoceans4459 thank you for the reply
I would like to know how long it can run on batteries? Obviously it depends on the size of batteries, but let's go with your typical set up. PS. You should add that when you put batteries in series, they should all be the same size capacity batteries and definitely use deep cycle batteries.
The 10hp electric HANGKAI model is listed as 60V 38A(rated current) = 2280w (rated as 2.2KW)
Whilst the 8hp electric HANGKAI model is listed as 48V 50A(rated current) = 2400W (again rated as 2.2KW)
What is the reason for the discrepancy? Is the 10hp model more powerful?
No music needed. Great information video. No drone needed,,
That’s a pretty cool little motor man!
I’d imagine this would do great on a 12-14 foot aluminum John boat with light gear but if it gets he job done and doesn’t drain them batteries to fast then have your fun all day dude!
I have a 1542 with gear two guys and get between 4-5 mph. Great for electric lakes and faster the my 55lb thrust minn Kota
You will love the longevity of an electric motor and the lack of messy fuels and oils . When you find the right motor for your needs , combine it with a nice lipo battery bank and enjoy the extra range for weight and maybe include a couple hundred watts of solar top up panels and you end up with a pretty functional rig .
Go eat some meatless meat. Tweener
Could you open the top and give a good look around of the insides? I thought about ordering one of these and installing a better electric motor for more speed, that one is 1000w 48v, I'd like to add a 2000w 48v but don't own one
did it come with a title or a MCO manufacture certificate of origin? or MSO manufacture statement of origin? In texas we need it for titling purposes.
Another vid I saw with a similar looking motor (maybe the same) was also loud. He later found out there’s a sealed oil chamber at the bottom by the propeller. They’re not supposed to ship from China (or anywhere) with it filled. This guy didn’t get a manual or directions that mentioned it. You should check and post if you find the chamber & unscrew it.
I have one of these. I run it on 4x 115ah batteries. It runs all day and works well.
Bad bits: The gearboxes can fail. There is a bronze bush that wears out. I machined up an improved one.
These motors are quite noisey considering they are electric. They are not great quality but what do expect for the money?
I was thinking the gear train could use a little love from the sound of it.
@@sambrose1 Wouldn't surprise me, other Hangkai engine's on YT were all shipped with NO gear oil at all.... imagine how that sounds... a bit like what we hear here.
How long does the batteries last and with all the batteries back had to be heavy
Some RC boats have water cooled motors just by sucking water from the inlet and looping around the motor with copper tubing and back out the boat. Just use a water pump.
less amperage draw with 48 volts then 24 volts, so you could get by with a little smaller wire in theory
Great motor. $1000 for motor, battery's, wiring to 4.5 mph! I'm sold
So am I, lots of small elec only waters here.
Super sick ima need to get one for my kayak 🤟
My gas engine has been running great for 30 years so I don't know what you mean by gas engines always mess up?
I get 6.2mph on my 12ft semi with a 5hp suzuki gas motor. So the power comparison seems fair
Definitely not 5hp.
1200 watts is 1.6HP.
An ammeter on the battery lead would at least give you an idea of the power consumption before efficiency losses.
I'm with you
I don't think this is a option for any application other than lakes that don't allow gas boat motor !
I own a 24 volt Motor guide 70lb thrust Trolling motor and it moves my 21 ft Sundance V-hull Bay Boat 5 mph on my Garmin GPS and does it VERY QUITE and this is a waste of $$$$
Great stuff thanks for sharing
How easy is it to find a Prop replacement?
Inertering review. Yes it goes forward well but how good is the braking compared to a traditional outboard?
Everyone comparing to gas CLEARLY missed where you said "electric only lakes". And clearly have never been a member. Just moved back to the SouthEast from Colorado and you got me fired up to join another club. Great video, ignore the haters, and 99% of us cant wait for the update. Have a great day!
That’s what I’m saying I would of bought a 5-10 horse gas any day over this but that’s not an option 😂
Dope little motor bro curious to see how it hold up if it does good I may purchase one for my little boat
You might want to check if the noise is related to needing to add some oil.
What type drone you use
What amp hour are those batteries?
So how long does a charge last? I'd be worried about not having enough juice to get back to the dock!
How well do they work on a river going upstream
4:16 saw that strap and thought .... You're gonna need a longer extension cord than that. LoL'
Looks like they used the exact same leg and lower unit as on a gas outboard (note the exhaust outlet above the prop). I'd wager a fair chunk of the noise comes from the lower unit gears. You don't notice so much with a gas engine because all small gas outboards are really loud, but they do tend to make a bit of gear whine.
That's part of it. I've been messing with these Motors for months now, and did a complete teardown, gear and gasket replacement (after I destroyed my lower unit gears). The main issue with noise is the tolerances with the gears. The standard gaskets are not thick enough between the motor mount and lower unit, and also where the shaft connects right above the bottom gearbox, so when the bolts are torqued down the gears can bind up a bit. Put thicker gaskets and it'll be happier.
Still louder than I want, but runs well with 4-5kw with a 20s lithium battery. Does 11mph in a 15' inflatable kaboat, being quite limited by the prop... Can't find good alternatives with more bite that fit.
@@AdamBrusselback ahh, insufficient gear clearance would do it! I bet it varies a fair bit from motor to motor too.
Re: your propeller issue, I've recently been experimenting with 3D printing outboard props. My Mercury 3.3 has a nylon propeller from factory, so I thought I might be able to print something that is up to the challenge using carbon fibre nylon filament. I printed off a prototype in PLA to test the fit on the shaft last week, and decided to give it a run in a bucket of water to see how well the blades withstood the stress. Didn't go far above idle (water just started sloshing out of the bucket) but up to that point the PLA prop handled it beautifully. CF Nylon is quite a bit more robust than PLA, so I'm hoping that the final product will be good all the way up to full throttle.
I'm designing my props using the Javafoil and Javaprop programs that are free on the web. They're fairly user friendly, Javaprop can take your use case and a list of foil sections and design an 'optimal' propeller blade automatically. Its built in foil options aren't the best for a plastic marine prop, but you can simulate others (I like NACA 16 series foils) in Javafoil and import them.
@@nerd1000ify Well, I typed out a longer reply, but it was eaten in the tubes before it made it to RUclips I guess. I appreciate the info on the prop software, and I have an mk3s sitting around, so I should really give it a shot. Would be fun to try some different profiles and materials out.
These motors really are pretty terribly made, the metal is cheap and can be bent by hand pretty easily, and the tolerances between the three motors I have are all way different. They all have slightly different motor/controller combos too. If I could get my hands on a good supply of outboard parts, I'd love to design a mount for a nice powerful electric drivetrain on an existing, well tested lower unit....I just cannot seem to find a supply of those types of parts, and not for lack of searching. So that idea is on hold for now.
Looks like about 1.5hp to me. I’ve got some old air cooled outboards by cruise n carry and tanaka that only weigh 15-20lbs that put out 1.2hp and 2hp. They haul ass on a kayak.
So from what I’m seeing with these electric outboard’s it’s crucial to manage expectations. A good rule of thumb is to take with the manufacturer calls equivalent and cut it in half. For instance, if you had a 5 hp gas rig on your boat and wanted to replace it with an as powerful electric set up then you would want to get a 10 hp rated electric outboard. This seems to be true with all electric outboard manufactures as even the largest 50 hp Elco motor gives you 25 hp gas results.
thanks for taking the risk and ordering this e-outboard. I've been looking at it warily at Amazon for a while. Looks like it works fine - just wondering about the lifetime of the motor, especially in the hot Texas summers. Your boat probably weighs closer to 2000 lbs, especially with those batteries in the back. Maybe moving the batteries toward the front will make it easier to launch. I have a 12 ft boat and moving the battery to the front of the boat made it much easier to launch.
I have 3 batteries in the front for my 36 volt foot controller motor and the 4 in the back for this one. So I have a total of 7 batteries! Crazy heavy
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Not bad. Wonder what it would w a newport vessel nk180
Did you check the gear lube behind the prop?
I’m thinking of trying the 60v 10hp version of this. I’m not sure if these emotors are the equivalent of their gas counterparts.
They aren't at all.
@@GeorgiaBassmasterfrom what I’m seeing and talking to the manufacturers it’s best to manage expectations. A good rule of thumb is to take rated hp and half it. Even the Elco 50hp gives 25hp results when factoring power, weight and ability to plane.
Have you tried it on just a 24v battery?
any updates on how the motor and battery is holding out now that it is 2024?
What's the dB level? Sounds loud.
loved the drone footage
I would have some concern with the plastic prop over time and with higher hour usage as heat is produced when a propeller runs through water as well as the plastic degrading over time.if it had to be replaced in 5 years would you be able to find one
Finding replacements for anything cheap and chinese is only one problem,longevity is the other.
Does it have reverse?
Wonder if there is different props?
How many minutes will it run a full speed on fully charged batteries?
I can’t say the exact number, although I’ve fished all day and haven’t ran it dead.
The first thing I thought about when I saw it was the heat generated from the oil less electric motor like on an oil less air compressor. I'd definitely take the top off and cut a hole take a fan from a computer install it so it pulls the hot air out and put a louvre over the fan too protect it from the elements
That’s definitely something I need to do!
@@GeorgiaBassmaster it would be easy to wire in since voltage display is right there
Great idea!
Watch the video before you comment, he said there is a fan and you can see the vent slots. A computer fan would never keep that engine cool enough.
@@bruceringrose7539 I did watch it that's why I said what I said. Why you so tense ?
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Cool video man.
How long do the batteries last
Did you build out the deck on that boat yourself? That’s a pretty sweet looking set up!
I bought it like that but the guy I bought it from builds them! He did a great job.
So, when you kill those batteries, can your buddy motor to the gas station for a can of electrons?
I know the vid is 2 months old but I wonder if there was any grease is that foot. Maybe that is why it was so loud.
Thanks for making this all I could find was foreign reviews!
I have 5 Hp Hangkai on an 18’ Jon boat with front and read decks and aluminum floor carrying 5 batteries and a Foot control on the front and it will fun 4.6mph consistently
I got a Triton tr 20 I want to make an electric boat but I can't figure out how to do it. If anyone has any ideas please let me know thanks
I sure wish you would publish the AMPS and WATTS draw please! That would tell us the battery travel time.
I don't know anything about these motors so if this sounds stupid... Did it ship with or does it use lube in the foot? Could that be the source of the noise? Is the range good enough to run another motor in the same 4 batteries. Twin engines would be cool in a nerdy type way. While you're at it build a jack plate for em. lol
I think that trolling motor would move that boat faster than that 48 volt motor
If you replaced the prop, to get a steeper pitch, would it go a lot faster?
Motor is weak... changing pitch will cause current draw to increase, burns out the motor controller.
It's a cool ass little motor but what I want to know is can you change the props out as in maybe more of a pitch or less than a pitch are the props interchangeable
I'm sure you could I've thought about putting a bigger prop on it.
@@GeorgiaBassmaster if you find a good source, let me know. I've been playing with these motors for months, tried a few that should have fit but just didn't due to slight differences.
Nice review! Wondering about durability of it though. It's pretty loud for an electric motor, but how does it compare to a similar sized petrol engine. I have to replace my old 2 stroke and I'm looking in to electric alternatives. Best regards for the Netherlands ✌🏻
Stay with fuel run motor. Electric has a long way to go
Nederlandse plassen en grachten zijn de beste plek voor electrische motoren. Ik gebruikt dit del al twee jaar in Suriname zonder probleem. Haal er 4 huur uit op een zeilbootje van 32 voet en 1500 kilogram.
Batteries are so heavy, it pretty much cancels out any possible advantage. I don't want a pile of lead in my fishing boat and weighing the rear end down.
Thanks for the video..
How much in batteries to
Better be careful she is taking advantage of you filming lol best of luck to yall! Great video
Seems awfully loud?
Is the electric motor on top, like a regular combustion engine? Or is it in the water, like an electric trolling motor?
the motor sounds stressed
compared to name brands, they are probably running it at max rpm so i doubt it will last as long
What are the rpm's
isnt it just a regular trolling motor tho?
sweet .... that cruise control ...no safety kill switch ?