@JAY YHWH 316 Uhhh read a lil deeper chief. God showed himself and when moses looked upon him it almost blinded him. So maybe stop smoking so much burning bush n pay attention....
@JAY YHWH 316 Your putting way to much thought n effort into a comment that was made in a humours manner so relax killer i still love you so come over here n give pawpaw a hug lol
@ricky bobby where'd you come up with 295? The 2.3 in the mustang is rated at 310 hp and 350 torque. The most powerful factory lt1 in the vette was rated 300 hp and 340 ft lbs. Camaros and firebirds had less. Where'd you get those bogus numbers?
The EcoBoost is imo the best overall daily driver. It's comfortable, visibly is good, trunk space is ample and I'm smiling when driving it whether in city traffic, country roads or on the highway.
@@stephenkelly2713 that's okay. Not everyone wants the same thing from a car. 310 hp is plenty for me for a daily driver. I can see your viewpoint also. The EcoBoost is balanced and quick on curvy roads. It's easy on the gas and works for me. I understand that it's not for everyone.
Can’t like this enough for your acknowledging how cringe all the other car channels are when asking for likes, comments, follows. You gents are doing the lords work.
I mean it would slap a mustang gt of not to long ago at the strip. And 2k worth of mods this will walk a new Gen gt some running 11.6 on slicks and basic Boltons and a tune with the 10speed. Very very impressive!
The key to appreciating the Ecoboost Mustang is thinking of it as a sports car and getting over the idea that it should be a muscle car. When you compare to similar priced sports cars I think the Mustang really stands out for the balance of power, handling, and practicality. Go for a slightly used, manual Ecoboost performance pack, throw on an intake, tune, and some sticky tires and you've got a fairly capable trackable car that still works well as a daily driver with excellent parts availability and low running costs, all in for low 20s.
Having owned a eco and afterwards bought a 5.0. The eco feels nimble, light on its feet. But not enough power going full throttle. Putting a aftermarket exhaust won’t help much and makes little difference. The 5.0 is heavy but also feels tight on the acceleration. Listening to the V8 giving it some throttle sounds amazing. Putting a Borla exhaust on and the whole neighborhood will either love or hate you. The eco felt very nimble and quick but I feel like the 5.0 takes the win for overall experience
@@saddsatan What I hope to achieve by my review, is that it will direct people over to the 5.0 instead of the eco because it’s cheaper. Because when I bought the eco I wasn’t sure that all that extra money was worth it for the 5.0. Being my first 300hp I was excited, prior to my other vehicles that only had 100hp at the age of 22. Now I did shed a tear when selling that eco. But when I got the 5.0 it really opened my eyes.
@@Three_Days_Of_Solitude i feel you, i jus came from an altima, new to the car scene, im 20. didnt want a loud car tbh n doubled my altimas hp & that turbo is amazin for how tiny it is. i think its a super solid cheaper option for alot of ppl, idc ab "muscle" its a sexy sports car to me lol
@@Three_Days_Of_Solitude not to mention i can do just ab everything v6s n v8s can do, wit traction control still on, it is a tiny bit jerky but it jus feel like turbo lag, most cars have a lil
Tbh I like the 2010-12 ish design of Camaro best. In 14-15 the taillights just look too 2 dimensional. Before that they were sort of 3D and had a great look to them.
@@cristianchavira8591 First off, that's your opinion that the 10-12 looks bad just like it's my opinion that they look good. TBH I'm a Mustang owner myself, so I prefer the look of my car over just about any Camaro!
Is there something to stop people from just buying cars in Germany and then importing them to Netherlands? Some kind of a crazy registration fee? Surely it must be cheaper to do it that way at these insane prices.
tibor29 The thing is nobody is importing the l4 since those who buy a camaro are a certain kind of human that usually aren't interested such a inconvenient car without the prestige or the power of a V8. (Inconvenient because of European roads and cities)
People keep asking why you'd choose these 4 cyl (or 6 cyl) cars over the V8 versions. The primary difference is price, but these cars are a great compromise if you want a rwd sports car that is not as hardcore as a BRZ but more practical with great performance. These are still excellent performance cars for the high 20 to low 30k price range. The V8s are more expensive all around--base price, gas, insurance, brakes, etc. That stuff can't be ignored for those of us on a budget but still want great performance for the price.
The V6 with manual is absolutely fun and worth it in both cars ( though you have to get a 2017 Mustang used ). The V6 in the Camaro is the same one they put in the Cadillac CTS and is fantastic. No turbo lag, no issues - just loads of power through your manual gearbox. The V6 in the Mustang, though, is superb - all of the issues with the ecoboost simply go away. Leave it in 3rd gear on a mountain road and witness the joy of more than enough power to have fun - and 30mpg highway. I'm still sad Ford got rid of the V6/manual combo.
That’s true I wanted a v8 mustang but went to the ecoboost because i know I can’t afford it and know it was going to get repo 😂 my best option was the ecoboost premium. I had a bmw and for sure best decision I ever made 😂
I love the idea of the Ecoboost Mustang. Most people buy a mustang as their first "sports car" and those people haven't driven RWD coupes probably shouldn't have 400+ hp. That's why Mustangs have the stigma of running down crowds because people buy them but can't control the power. The Ecoboost is a good way to get into a relatively cheap RWD sports car that won't kill them. Beside I've seen what people can to to the Ecoboost V6's in the trucks, I'm sure a chip tune, exhaust, and intake would push the 'stang to close to 400hp
I enjoy cars and trucks but I’m strange in my thought process I don’t need to hear a roaring gas guzzler that’s why the 4cyl eco boost has me intrigued I’m sure some people will miss that sound but I want style over comfort but I don’t want to feed the beast every 100 miles
Lynda Hammel I have a eco boost premium too it’s amazing I need that v8 tho cause I got a convertible it does not hit 😭🤣 I hear that v8 and I get mad i don’t have it that sound is too fire
It’s amazing the engineering that went into the camaro platform. Even though it has lacked on power compared to its competitors it still sets better lap times, even with the appearance of the GT500 and Redeye.
The V8 Camaro is a triumph. The 4 cyl honestly is pretty terrible except in comfort. Daily driver I'd take the EB everyday. Sporty GT or track car, SS and it isn't close.
@@Noah_NickNot really, the newer mustangs look a lot better, they're easier to live with, they're generally more reliable and easier to mod, and they perform almost as well. The practicality shortcomings of the Camaro are more glaring than the performance shortcomings of the mustang. I always assumed the Camaro visibility thing was exaggerated, it's not. I almost had a Camaro cause an accident because he couldn't see a fucking 7 seater SUV through his side window.
Update. I went and bought a 21 ecoboost. Went to the track for the first time in 25 or 30 years with my daughter driving the ecoboost A10 and me in the 19 LTG M6. My daughter has had her license for about 45 days and she ran four straight 14.2’s in normal mode at 96(with me as psgr), 98,98,97mph. I ran the Camaro twice and my first time was a 14.0 at 98mph. The second run for me was my last and I got to pair up against my 16yr old. So cool!!! I killed her off the line but screwed up my 3rd gear and she went by me and won. LOL. We plan on going up Friday and she can try sport mode and maybe track mode. She also had cut a .506 light. Not bad!
Love the channel, very entertaining and real reviews! Would like to see a comparison of BASE V8 muscle cars, focusing on the new Camaro LT1...for those of us debating between an optioned-out 4/6 cylinder or basic V8. Keep up the good work!
While I will always prefer the V8 counterparts to these cars I have to admit I love how smooth, torquey and refined 4 cylinder engines have become. No more buzziness or booming sounds.
Guys - The 2020 Ecoboost HPP is a different beast. 332/350, Mustang GT brakes, Magnetic Ride Control, Active Exhaust, Recaro Seat Option, Wider Wheels with P-Zero Corsa tires, and Adjusted Steering Calibration if you get the handling pack. The engine also gets 40% wider power band. 0-60 is 4.5 seconds. Not that long ago that was a GT figure and with its lighter front and newfound agility found in this package, the ecoboost is now... finally legit. Id rock one NO SHAME and eat up some twisties. Its the overall package sum that works well here.
The mustang is that one car that everywhere you go , people will just love it regardless of the year lol. Even people who don't care about cars know what a mustang is heh.
I have an '18 Ecoboost Mustang. Added a larger intercooler, Ford performance Exhaust, Ford Performance Tune, and Ford Performance Street Handling Pack. 345HP, 426 Tq. Running 0-60 in 5.1. It's a convertible. The minor mods made a huge difference. Handling is much better and the lower end of the power band was nicely rounded out with the tune. With the top down, NO blind spots. :)
get dragy to get more accuracy. I dont trust track apps as it is usually off. Id say you're somewhere in the 4.7-4.9 sec to 60 with your claimed HP and TQ figures. The '15- '17 EB's with good tune and intercooler only run 4.8 - 5.2 sec in ideal conditions. Now, the disadvantage of the convertible is that it doesnt get the 350lb/ft of torque and are heavier. Though, like I said, If your numbers really are 345hp and 426 tq, Id think youd be in the high 4's.
Vanneker as much as i agree with you, i think there really is a market for people that want fun plus fuel efficiency. And I think that’s who Ford is catering to. (Plus people willing to be pay that much for a four cylinder lol)
vazromi92 I have a 2016 GT mostly I drive bumper to bumper traffic to and from work, my average mpg is 16.4, I track in in my Fuelly app. I had an eco boost loaner from Ford for 2 day while they fixed my ac condenser coil. I averaged 18mpg as per dash computer that over estimates by 1 mpg from my experience. Sorry but in the real world there isn’t much of saving as they want you to believe. Check out Fuelly.com they got other ppl mpg logs. See for yourself. It’s about 2-3 mpg difference
Vanneker yes but when your out of traffic and on a highway 31-33 MPG is easy to get. I have one, and get 17-21MPG on 91 in the city (depending on how heavy my foot is that week). Needless to say they are different animals in so many ways and whether you like it or not, the Ecoboost has received a mostly-warm welcome by many (especially after driving it)
Gandalf721 no one is wrong, its just called an opinion and its true, more people now appreciate what the EB has to offer despite “lacking 4 cylinders”. Throughout mustang history the “base” motor has been shit on by nearly everyone for its lackluster performance. Now we have a hell of a fun canyon car and reasonable city car you can actually rev out without killing anyone. Id even dare say you can have more fun in the city with the EB than a GT. 480HP is useless unless you have a wide open landing strip to use it. But thats just my 2 cents. Not a bad choice if you don’t have the coin for a GT.
Rental Mustang and Camaro are the unsung hero’s of a fun vacation. Getting to the parking lot and picking out your convertible for the trip is just so nostalgic.
Your guys videos are pretty good, I like the format and some of the humor is pretty good. Putting these cars head to head was awesome especially since these probably sell in higher numbers. Please keep up the great content.
Leo uhhh yeah you do lol especially if you’re gonna throw your 2 cents in about different engine exhaust notes. Who even comments on videos of cars they don’t even own or care to own 😂😂 wack bro
I have a 2020 Ecoboost that's white with the black accent package, which makes the car look quite sharp with that high contrast. Mine is as basic of a Mustang as you can get. But! Even though it doesn't have the bells and whistles, and such, I do have it in the 6-speed manual. And it really is a very fun car. Had it for almost three years, and still just under 15k miles.
Everyone here on the comments shitting on the turbo 4 bangers don’t realize that all the Japanese cars have been beating up on American muscle for years with the same formula (not talking about Honda civics) . The Evo , Sti , Golf R , GTi , Nissan Silvia (arguably one of the best drift cars ever made) , Ford Focus RS and the list goes on and on . Edit - I understand the Ford Focus RS is a Ford but it’s built in Germany with a different platform. Don’t be salty that you have a 90s or early 00s V8 and get beat by 4 bangers .
I have a 2019 camaro, I don’t drive cars in terms of performance, but I’ve always liked Camaros I like the mustang but I’ve never trusted ford being that my family all owned fords and within a few years they required more service than my Silverado ever needed so I chose the Chevy over the Ford
The Ecotec LNF 2.0 T that's been in multiple cars from the Cobalt to the Equinox to the Malibu to the Impala and that is under the hood of the Camaro is considered to be one of the best turbo 4 cylinders ever manufactured by an American car company one also currently holds the title as the fastest four-cylinder in the world actually record might have been broken but it held it for almost a decade
It’s sad that you get ridiculed for owning a turbo 4. These cars are really nice, for teens especially! Great gas mileage, cheaper insurance, affordable, and they have the aggressive body style of your favorite car.
Probably my favorite opening skit you guys have done. Love it! Keep up the good work! This is one of 2 channels I've ever bothered subscribing to on youtube.
I have the auto 10 speed 2018 ecoboost performance package. I love it. It cost more than the bone stock V8 , I could’ve got a V8 but mine is Loaded with features. I live in Los Angeles. I’m in traffic daily at least 3 hours. To each their own.
@@joeljeffrey9139 I couldn't imagine shifting then down shifting for three hours straight just burning fuel, as is I average around 20 to 24 mpg. Imagine a V8 I'd rather spend money elsewhere tbh maybe in the future, I do want a gt350
@@Gandalf721 yeah I didn't want to be to conservative, I could've got some hybrid car but my car nice no cap. People ask all the time if it's a V8 it's identical to the V8 performance package just without the badges
Great video, I loved it, thanks! I just bought a 2021 Mustang EcoBoost HPP with the manual 6 speed transmission. The High Performance Package and Handling Package really make a difference, and after driving both the 4 cylinder Camaro with the 1LE package, and the Mustang, I can tell you that the Mustang felt far lighter, more agile and more confidence inspiring on the road. It also cost less out the door than the Camaro, and yes I know it says it's cheaper on paper, but most Chevy dealerships tend to mark up their vehicles and not budge on the price.
I had a rental 10 speed eco boost convertible premium while my 5.0 premium was getting worked on and I loved it! It was fun, kinda cheesy with the speaker engine sounds but it was quick!
Why is it that everyone wants to see a Camaro with a larger engine vs a Mustang 4 banger? Why not hope for the V6 Camaro vs 3.5TT V6 Mustang? Camaro has always needed a larger engine to compete with a mustang.
@@michaelcockrell1785 Boi stfu, the Camaro V6 is N/A and the Ecoboost is turbocharged. Boost makes a world of difference. What, are we going to compare a Stingray to a ZR1 next?
Shut ur face if by Honda engine you mean the Type R engine then you are spot on, considering the mustang makes over 300 horsepower base and the Camaro makes damn near 290. In contrast, the Civic Si makes 205 and is almost a second slower to 60.
michael cockrell because the 4 cylinder Camaro has much less horsepower than the 4 cylinder mustang. Based on horsepower numbers, the v6 Camaro is closer to the Ecoboost
The thing I hate about the ecoboost is the MT82 Manuel transmission it’s known to have problems the Camaro comes with a TREMEC trans which is known to be bulletproof
I have the 2020 Camaro 1LT and I must say I love it. Only being 25 and inexperienced with rear wheel drive vehicles this is the perfect starting car. Plenty of power. Would like to upgrade to the 2SS or ZL1 1LE in a few years as long as Chevy keeps making them.
@@Boosted_aj yeah I know.It was just something I thought I’d throw in for those thinking about getting one.unfortunately the one I rode in belonged to a co-worked who crashed it into a pole on a rainy night driving pretty irresponsibly knowing the way he drove.he won’t touch anything like it ever again supposedly after he told me about the wreck
A fox body Mustang GT when they came out were "only' 225HP. I remember the ad with the GT with the door open and the caption "Go ahead. Make your day." They were awesome and we never felt that 225hp was not enough as they tore up the streets all day long and NOTHING sounded better.
It just gets better and better with you guys! Loved it. And while I’m normally partial to Camaro, that particular Mustang was spec’d more to my liking (without the auto trans). Keep up the good work. I’ve passed this along to a couple of friends, hopefully they’ll become subs.
I chose the Camaro 1LT turbo for several reasons. I have a ‘14 Challenger already. I owned a fox body stang new in ‘90 and had it running 11.7 @ 124 in the 1320 back in ‘94 in street trim driven easy. The I4 turbo in the Camaro is so cool that you have it tipping the scales at under 3400lbs and in a platform that can handle the twisties with a great deal of confidence. Put a tune on the LTG and you will be pushing some better HP numbers quite nicely. The 6th gen Camaro is quite honestly the best handling Camaro to come along. Period. And hitting 30mpg isn’t a bad thing.
I am still not tired of my 2019 Ecoboost Performance package. I believe it is ONLY way to get an ecoboost if you can get it. With touch screen, flippy switches, and a 6 speed manual mine was around 30k or so US. I drove a CVT ecoplus corolla for the past 5 years, this past year has been a hoot.
Now we know that Moses is the one who invented the Inline 4 engine layout.
Yes but he was commanded by god to build a v8...
No wonder God almost blinded him
@JAY YHWH 316 Uhhh read a lil deeper chief. God showed himself and when moses looked upon him it almost blinded him. So maybe stop smoking so much burning bush n pay attention....
@JAY YHWH 316 Your putting way to much thought n effort into a comment that was made in a humours manner so relax killer i still love you so come over here n give pawpaw a hug lol
And god has a british accent..
We lost Top Gear but we gained Throttle House. Not disappointed.
I used to love top gear back in the day when there were no other options. Throttle House is light-years cooler and way less douchie.
A soul for a soul
We also gained the grand tour
And Donut
And Motor Trend
Just keep in mind these are making more power than their 90s v8 counterparts
Well at least the mustang is
The Camaro it's about the same
Exactly, my Firebird makes way less power. It triggers me an ecoboost has more horses.
Yep! Today's cars just keep getting more impressive!!! We live in a great era!
@ricky bobby The ecoboost has more torque than the old lt1 though Lol.....and it's faster
@ricky bobby where'd you come up with 295? The 2.3 in the mustang is rated at 310 hp and 350 torque. The most powerful factory lt1 in the vette was rated 300 hp and 340 ft lbs. Camaros and firebirds had less. Where'd you get those bogus numbers?
@ricky bobby Lol i was comparing fords 4 cylinder not the fucking camaro genius. Chevys 4 banger isn't even worth mentioning.
The EcoBoost is imo the best overall daily driver. It's comfortable, visibly is good, trunk space is ample and I'm smiling when driving it whether in city traffic, country roads or on the highway.
4 cylinder succ
@@humzaazam3181 tbh v4 engine are great, not everyone want power
@@humzaazam3181 a lot 4 cylinder with turbo can smoke YOU
Honestly I can never understand why someone would ever buy a muscle car without getting the muscle.
@@stephenkelly2713 that's okay. Not everyone wants the same thing from a car. 310 hp is plenty for me for a daily driver. I can see your viewpoint also. The EcoBoost is balanced and quick on curvy roads. It's easy on the gas and works for me. I understand that it's not for everyone.
Those rims on that 4 cyl mustang are surprisingly really nice.
Yeah
Just bought a 2018 ecoboost premium and i have these wheels, love em
@@Gynophobiia i have them too don’t rlly like the rims i want 2014 gt500 rims
Thanks
you should the rims i have on my stang
Can’t like this enough for your acknowledging how cringe all the other car channels are when asking for likes, comments, follows. You gents are doing the lords work.
Yes! Praise Allah. 🙌
How about the Straightpipe?
Moses agrees.
love the humor that this channel have. Throttle House, you took motor trend's place here on youtube.
I agree.
definitely better videos
Motor trend is terrible now.
Still rather have Roadkill
And i love your Momo pic 😂
"EcoBoost - winner of drag races, destroyer of crowds" 😂😅😂
The GT is a crowd killler
therealmannz the crowd killers are morons. Morons can’t understand that. I’ve had 5 mustangs. None of them have attacked anybody.
GT + tc off + idiot. Not so much an eb problem.
nic Jarhead you don’t know that
Jamal K. You’re so poor you wish you could afford Hyundai. Come to my boating school so I can teach you how to drive.
When mom calls, that's classic.
Throttle house and Everyday driver are some of the best content and reviews anywhere, great job guys, bravo
The ecoboost mustang has a drag race mode? I'm not sure how I feel about that?
It just redlines instead of shifting faster
It's like watching two gays running track.
I mean it would slap a mustang gt of not to long ago at the strip. And 2k worth of mods this will walk a new Gen gt some running 11.6 on slicks and basic Boltons and a tune with the 10speed. Very very impressive!
I mean it doesn't have to be used
Michael Steele it keeps up with stock 5.0
The key to appreciating the Ecoboost Mustang is thinking of it as a sports car and getting over the idea that it should be a muscle car. When you compare to similar priced sports cars I think the Mustang really stands out for the balance of power, handling, and practicality. Go for a slightly used, manual Ecoboost performance pack, throw on an intake, tune, and some sticky tires and you've got a fairly capable trackable car that still works well as a daily driver with excellent parts availability and low running costs, all in for low 20s.
Having owned a eco and afterwards bought a 5.0.
The eco feels nimble, light on its feet. But not enough power going full throttle.
Putting a aftermarket exhaust won’t help much and makes little difference.
The 5.0 is heavy but also feels tight on the acceleration. Listening to the V8 giving it some throttle sounds amazing.
Putting a Borla exhaust on and the whole neighborhood will either love or hate you.
The eco felt very nimble and quick but I feel like the 5.0 takes the win for overall experience
@@Three_Days_Of_Solitudei mean it should?
@@saddsatan What I hope to achieve by my review, is that it will direct people over to the 5.0 instead of the eco because it’s cheaper. Because when I bought the eco I wasn’t sure that all that extra money was worth it for the 5.0. Being my first 300hp I was excited, prior to my other vehicles that only had 100hp at the age of 22.
Now I did shed a tear when selling that eco.
But when I got the 5.0 it really opened my eyes.
@@Three_Days_Of_Solitude i feel you, i jus came from an altima, new to the car scene, im 20. didnt want a loud car tbh n doubled my altimas hp & that turbo is amazin for how tiny it is. i think its a super solid cheaper option for alot of ppl, idc ab "muscle" its a sexy sports car to me lol
@@Three_Days_Of_Solitude not to mention i can do just ab everything v6s n v8s can do, wit traction control still on, it is a tiny bit jerky but it jus feel like turbo lag, most cars have a lil
I'm a chevy guy, always have been, but good grief did GM screw up the look of the camaros for 2019 save for the Z.
Im glad the 19/20 zl1 keeps the same front end as the 17/18 zl1 as i plan on getting one. Not a fan of the tail lights however.
Tbh I like the 2010-12 ish design of Camaro best. In 14-15 the taillights just look too 2 dimensional. Before that they were sort of 3D and had a great look to them.
@@josephg41 10-12 camaro is hideous just like the 2020 one. 16-18 were so nice. I became a fan after hating camaros
@@cristianchavira8591 First off, that's your opinion that the 10-12 looks bad just like it's my opinion that they look good. TBH I'm a Mustang owner myself, so I prefer the look of my car over just about any Camaro!
Alex Jasso the 2019 tail lights are sexy
Mustang ecoboost & camaro 1lt exists *
2020 4 cylinder c63 : allow me to introduce myself
im so sick of 4 cylinders even a v6 is more enjoyable
@@Phlyinhigh 4 cyls are pretty cheap to run tho
8:35 is want ya want
Icancy cox thanks
Thanks bro!
An ad? Because thats what I got
Icancy cox thanks these guys waste so much time
thank you!
What the hell was chevy thinking with that face looks very strange
They don't. Have you seen the new Vette lol
Yeah your definitely not a Chevy person the c8 is sexy as hell
1,000 subscribers with no videos not a Chevy fan but the Bette looks pretty cool
It’s on trend. Look around and you’ll see it here and there.
Ugly af
Y’all need to get the 2020 ecoboost high performance package with the Focus RS engine on your show.
Yesss i hope they do since that's the one I wanna buy!!
@@OctaneStreet just buy the gt
@@saint198 Yea since this comment i'm pushing myself to get a GT instead.
@@OctaneStreet get a gt trust me
Octane Street - Apprentice Mechanic go with a gt w a pp1
All of a sudden they remind me of "Phineas and Ferb."
Walter Crim Lmfaoo
"You don't even have heated seats in here"
"...... well you do it yourself, you just have alot of beans for lunch."
I'm dying
Your guys' sense of humor is incredible, please never chance, except making twice as many videos; that I think we can all get on board with!
To give an idea: here in the Netherlands the Mustang 2.3 EcoBoost starts at $77,347(USD) and the V8 at $121,444(USD). Yeah, we Dutchies are screwed.
I think the V8 is a much better deal do to it being actually available in Europe at some point :D
Is there something to stop people from just buying cars in Germany and then importing them to Netherlands? Some kind of a crazy registration fee? Surely it must be cheaper to do it that way at these insane prices.
tibor29 The thing is nobody is importing the l4 since those who buy a camaro are a certain kind of human that usually aren't interested such a inconvenient car without the prestige or the power of a V8.
(Inconvenient because of European roads and cities)
Kinda the same here in Argentina, but the minimum salarie is about 250usd... so... imagine that.
@RS1 they use periods instead of commas
People keep asking why you'd choose these 4 cyl (or 6 cyl) cars over the V8 versions.
The primary difference is price, but these cars are a great compromise if you want a rwd sports car that is not as hardcore as a BRZ but more practical with great performance.
These are still excellent performance cars for the high 20 to low 30k price range.
The V8s are more expensive all around--base price, gas, insurance, brakes, etc. That stuff can't be ignored for those of us on a budget but still want great performance for the price.
The V6 with manual is absolutely fun and worth it in both cars ( though you have to get a 2017 Mustang used ). The V6 in the Camaro is the same one they put in the Cadillac CTS and is fantastic. No turbo lag, no issues - just loads of power through your manual gearbox. The V6 in the Mustang, though, is superb - all of the issues with the ecoboost simply go away. Leave it in 3rd gear on a mountain road and witness the joy of more than enough power to have fun - and 30mpg highway.
I'm still sad Ford got rid of the V6/manual combo.
@@plektosgaming the v6 in the camaro is not turbo. The v6 in the mustang makes less power and is slower than the V4
How is the BRZ more hardcore??
Cristian Chavira v4? You mean inline 4
That’s true I wanted a v8 mustang but went to the ecoboost because i know I can’t afford it and know it was going to get repo 😂 my best option was the ecoboost premium. I had a bmw and for sure best decision I ever made 😂
I love the idea of the Ecoboost Mustang. Most people buy a mustang as their first "sports car" and those people haven't driven RWD coupes probably shouldn't have 400+ hp. That's why Mustangs have the stigma of running down crowds because people buy them but can't control the power. The Ecoboost is a good way to get into a relatively cheap RWD sports car that won't kill them. Beside I've seen what people can to to the Ecoboost V6's in the trucks, I'm sure a chip tune, exhaust, and intake would push the 'stang to close to 400hp
And even the EcoBoost has enough power to kick the back end out without very much thought
I enjoy cars and trucks but I’m strange in my thought process I don’t need to hear a roaring gas guzzler that’s why the 4cyl eco boost has me intrigued I’m sure some people will miss that sound but I want style over comfort but I don’t want to feed the beast every 100 miles
@@Sensiblefool , I love my EcoBoost premium. I don't miss the V8 sound at all and really appreciate the looks, comfort and mpg.
David Kutschke EcoBoost A10 beat V6 🐎🐎 love EcoStang 🐎🐎🔥
Lynda Hammel I have a eco boost premium too it’s amazing I need that v8 tho cause I got a convertible it does not hit 😭🤣 I hear that v8 and I get mad i don’t have it that sound is too fire
It’s amazing the engineering that went into the camaro platform. Even though it has lacked on power compared to its competitors it still sets better lap times, even with the appearance of the GT500 and Redeye.
And in some cases, it's faster in a straight line from a stop.
@@jellyninja6962 no
The V8 Camaro is a triumph. The 4 cyl honestly is pretty terrible except in comfort.
Daily driver I'd take the EB everyday. Sporty GT or track car, SS and it isn't close.
The camaro Beats mustang any day
@@Noah_NickNot really, the newer mustangs look a lot better, they're easier to live with, they're generally more reliable and easier to mod, and they perform almost as well.
The practicality shortcomings of the Camaro are more glaring than the performance shortcomings of the mustang. I always assumed the Camaro visibility thing was exaggerated, it's not. I almost had a Camaro cause an accident because he couldn't see a fucking 7 seater SUV through his side window.
Update. I went and bought a 21 ecoboost. Went to the track for the first time in 25 or 30 years with my daughter driving the ecoboost A10 and me in the 19 LTG M6. My daughter has had her license for about 45 days and she ran four straight 14.2’s in normal mode at 96(with me as psgr), 98,98,97mph. I ran the Camaro twice and my first time was a 14.0 at 98mph. The second run for me was my last and I got to pair up against my 16yr old. So cool!!! I killed her off the line but screwed up my 3rd gear and she went by me and won. LOL. We plan on going up Friday and she can try sport mode and maybe track mode. She also had cut a .506 light. Not bad!
Amazing intro! really sets you apart from other review channels!
CandE.Adventures Outro too 😂
Stellar intro and outro. Amazing content in between. 10/10 would recommend.
Love the channel, very entertaining and real reviews! Would like to see a comparison of BASE V8 muscle cars, focusing on the new Camaro LT1...for those of us debating between an optioned-out 4/6 cylinder or basic V8. Keep up the good work!
Wish my mom was so supportive of my octane needs lol. "Just take it to the stripe!"
While I will always prefer the V8 counterparts to these cars I have to admit I love how smooth, torquey and refined 4 cylinder engines have become. No more buzziness or booming sounds.
You keep managing to get the like just by the intro :)
are you kidding?
Guys - The 2020 Ecoboost HPP is a different beast.
332/350, Mustang GT brakes, Magnetic Ride Control, Active Exhaust, Recaro Seat Option, Wider Wheels with P-Zero Corsa tires, and Adjusted Steering Calibration if you get the handling pack. The engine also gets 40% wider power band. 0-60 is 4.5 seconds. Not that long ago that was a GT figure and with its lighter front and newfound agility found in this package, the ecoboost is now... finally legit. Id rock one NO SHAME and eat up some twisties.
Its the overall package sum that works well here.
The mustang is that one car that everywhere you go , people will just love it regardless of the year lol. Even people who don't care about cars know what a mustang is heh.
I had a kid in my middle school call a mustang a Ferrari...
@@physetermacrocephalus9986 bruh
@@physetermacrocephalus9986 Yeah the Ferrari ecoboost
When he's moms calls ,I died 💀😂
I have an '18 Ecoboost Mustang. Added a larger intercooler, Ford performance Exhaust, Ford Performance Tune, and Ford Performance Street Handling Pack. 345HP, 426 Tq. Running 0-60 in 5.1. It's a convertible. The minor mods made a huge difference. Handling is much better and the lower end of the power band was nicely rounded out with the tune. With the top down, NO blind spots. :)
get dragy to get more accuracy. I dont trust track apps as it is usually off. Id say you're somewhere in the 4.7-4.9 sec to 60 with your claimed HP and TQ figures. The '15- '17 EB's with good tune and intercooler only run 4.8 - 5.2 sec in ideal conditions. Now, the disadvantage of the convertible is that it doesnt get the 350lb/ft of torque and are heavier. Though, like I said, If your numbers really are 345hp and 426 tq, Id think youd be in the high 4's.
all of that bs and it'll never touch my '71 Mach 1 w/it's 429 scj. lol.
I think the 2020 Ecoboost High Performance makes big strides compared to the 2019; really hope you get to review that one!
vazromi92 its a complete rip off. Performance is exactly the same, Fords claim that its Focus RS engine is completely marketing. Just get a V8.
Vanneker as much as i agree with you, i think there really is a market for people that want fun plus fuel efficiency. And I think that’s who Ford is catering to. (Plus people willing to be pay that much for a four cylinder lol)
vazromi92 I have a 2016 GT mostly I drive bumper to bumper traffic to and from work, my average mpg is 16.4, I track in in my Fuelly app. I had an eco boost loaner from Ford for 2 day while they fixed my ac condenser coil. I averaged 18mpg as per dash computer that over estimates by 1 mpg from my experience. Sorry but in the real world there isn’t much of saving as they want you to believe. Check out Fuelly.com they got other ppl mpg logs. See for yourself. It’s about 2-3 mpg difference
Vanneker yes but when your out of traffic and on a highway 31-33 MPG is easy to get. I have one, and get 17-21MPG on 91 in the city (depending on how heavy my foot is that week). Needless to say they are different animals in so many ways and whether you like it or not, the Ecoboost has received a mostly-warm welcome by many (especially after driving it)
Gandalf721 no one is wrong, its just called an opinion and its true, more people now appreciate what the EB has to offer despite “lacking 4 cylinders”. Throughout mustang history the “base” motor has been shit on by nearly everyone for its lackluster performance. Now we have a hell of a fun canyon car and reasonable city car you can actually rev out without killing anyone. Id even dare say you can have more fun in the city with the EB than a GT. 480HP is useless unless you have a wide open landing strip to use it. But thats just my 2 cents. Not a bad choice if you don’t have the coin for a GT.
They are both good cars but I rather have V8 with 6-speed manual
Indeed. I don't think they hate 'stang/Camaro, but when you drove V8 first... it's hard to be excited about the two-liter ;)
BASITH PH I think everyone rather have a V8 lol
@@gaivoron na EcoBoost for daily and v8 for track
Tervil Snaider or if u make even halfway decent money just daily your v8 lol
@@tervilsnaider3103 I don't think I can stand listening to that I4 exhaust daily. Sounds like a corolla.
...Was it you drag racing? I recognized you from my rearview mirror! 😂
I’m curious to see you’ll do a new review of the 2020 high-performance eco-boost mustang. From what I can see they have improved a lot.
Your intros are your USP 🙂 Don't worry, regular content is top notch as well.
Well to be fair...the turbo 4 Camaro was aimed at the discontinued v6 Mustang while the v6 Camaro is the direct competitor to the Ecoboost Mustang.
That's true
Rental Mustang and Camaro are the unsung hero’s of a fun vacation. Getting to the parking lot and picking out your convertible for the trip is just so nostalgic.
Your guys videos are pretty good, I like the format and some of the humor is pretty good. Putting these cars head to head was awesome especially since these probably sell in higher numbers. Please keep up the great content.
i almost cried when i heard those revs 😅
U should cz ur mama can’t afford it lmao.
Post a video of your v8 exhaust set up, dying to hear it cuz you definitely have one!
Leo uhhh yeah you do lol especially if you’re gonna throw your 2 cents in about different engine exhaust notes. Who even comments on videos of cars they don’t even own or care to own 😂😂 wack bro
Leo hit me up when you’re down to run, can’t wait to see how quick your Camry is with chopped mufflers
@@raullumanda295 you can't even a afford and with that riced car even less
I have a 2020 Ecoboost that's white with the black accent package, which makes the car look quite sharp with that high contrast. Mine is as basic of a Mustang as you can get. But! Even though it doesn't have the bells and whistles, and such, I do have it in the 6-speed manual. And it really is a very fun car. Had it for almost three years, and still just under 15k miles.
Ma Dukes is a Savage for that phone call 😂😂😂
Was that real ? 🤣
You guys all missed the most savage comment from James. "Ecoboost.. Winner of drag races, destroyer of crowds." haha
#day8v8
I bursted into laughter and now my boss wants to know what's so hilarious.
I'm not sure I can send him the link...
SEND IT SEND IT SEND IT
Full send it, so sayeth the Lord
@@ThrottleHouse Send him to hell.
@@ThrottleHouse Don't listen to the little bitch!
Everyone here on the comments shitting on the turbo 4 bangers don’t realize that all the Japanese cars have been beating up on American muscle for years with the same formula (not talking about Honda civics) . The Evo , Sti , Golf R , GTi , Nissan Silvia (arguably one of the best drift cars ever made) , Ford Focus RS and the list goes on and on . Edit - I understand the Ford Focus RS is a Ford but it’s built in Germany with a different platform.
Don’t be salty that you have a 90s or early 00s V8 and get beat by 4 bangers .
2:15 “same same, but different....” lol i always use that line from the interview 😂😂😂😂
Y'all is out of control with these skits lol! 👍👍
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Both cars are great, I personally dig the Camaro.
@Donald It's, well, yes, unconventionally designed.
I love the transformers Camaro but otherwise the stang
I have a 2019 camaro, I don’t drive cars in terms of performance, but I’ve always liked Camaros I like the mustang but I’ve never trusted ford being that my family all owned fords and within a few years they required more service than my Silverado ever needed so I chose the Chevy over the Ford
Chevy has the worse visibility ever it’s impossible to drive it, you need to drive it to understand just don’t crash especially when changing lanes
Caleb Gibson what’s your top speed on the camaro
The intro was indescribably creative af
The Ecotec LNF 2.0 T that's been in multiple cars from the Cobalt to the Equinox to the Malibu to the Impala and that is under the hood of the Camaro is considered to be one of the best turbo 4 cylinders ever manufactured by an American car company one also currently holds the title as the fastest four-cylinder in the world actually record might have been broken but it held it for almost a decade
Correct it was a bored out 2.0 in a gxp and ran a 5.9
It’s sad that you get ridiculed for owning a turbo 4. These cars are really nice, for teens especially! Great gas mileage, cheaper insurance, affordable, and they have the aggressive body style of your favorite car.
Great video as always gents! When are you going to get a Netflix deal, now that The Grand Tour is dead and Top Gear is crap?
Probably my favorite opening skit you guys have done. Love it! Keep up the good work! This is one of 2 channels I've ever bothered subscribing to on youtube.
Thanks Corey!
Can you guys do a track race between these cars? Would love to see the results!
The intros on these are always so good
Ease into the pedal, to build boost before flooring it.
Camaro ...sounds like Walk the Line in the background... love it
Another quality product from Canada's Finest...keep it up boys!
I have the auto 10 speed 2018 ecoboost performance package. I love it. It cost more than the bone stock V8
, I could’ve got a V8 but mine is Loaded with features. I live in Los Angeles. I’m in traffic daily at least 3 hours. To each their own.
Glad you like it! I'm curious as to why you choose the ecoboost over the V8?
I’d lose my shit if I sat in traffic that long 🤯my daily commute is 30 minutes total dammmmm
@@joeljeffrey9139 I couldn't imagine shifting then down shifting for three hours straight just burning fuel, as is I average around 20 to 24 mpg. Imagine a V8 I'd rather spend money elsewhere tbh maybe in the future, I do want a gt350
@@Gandalf721 yeah I didn't want to be to conservative, I could've got some hybrid car but my car nice no cap. People ask all the time if it's a V8 it's identical to the V8 performance package just without the badges
That opening scene though! Haha...you guys are hilarious. Love your reviews and outtakes.
All good car channels are from Canada. Makes me proud of you guys hehe
I love my 18 ecoboost! But im saving yup for a gt or gt350
Get the gt350 it sounds looks and performs better. It is pricey though.
In my teens a 40k Mustang was on the starting grid of a IMSA race...
Inflation....
lol the Moses part at the beginning was so funny 😂😂😂
I had the same camaro. The visibility is not bad. And the hamdling is amazing
I definitely feel like testing these two cars as autos takes way a ton of spirit from both of the cars.
Not really.
Great video, I loved it, thanks! I just bought a 2021 Mustang EcoBoost HPP with the manual 6 speed transmission. The High Performance Package and Handling Package really make a difference, and after driving both the 4 cylinder Camaro with the 1LE package, and the Mustang, I can tell you that the Mustang felt far lighter, more agile and more confidence inspiring on the road. It also cost less out the door than the Camaro, and yes I know it says it's cheaper on paper, but most Chevy dealerships tend to mark up their vehicles and not budge on the price.
My neighbor bought a GMC pckup because the Ford dealers wouln't budge on a F-150.
Yeah the cars are great and all, but nothing in comparison to your intro skits 👌🏻😁
"Did u break it?" 😂😂
I had a rental 10 speed eco boost convertible premium while my 5.0 premium was getting worked on and I loved it! It was fun, kinda cheesy with the speaker engine sounds but it was quick!
Is it speakers or is it a symposer like the focus ST (some resonator tube that pipes actual engine sound to the cabin)
Good job guys. One of the best car shows on youtube!
Would be awesome to see the v6 Camaro vs the Ecoboost performance when it comes out
Why is it that everyone wants to see a Camaro with a larger engine vs a Mustang 4 banger? Why not hope for the V6 Camaro vs 3.5TT V6 Mustang? Camaro has always needed a larger engine to compete with a mustang.
@@michaelcockrell1785 Boi stfu, the Camaro V6 is N/A and the Ecoboost is turbocharged. Boost makes a world of difference. What, are we going to compare a Stingray to a ZR1 next?
Those are just knock offs the SS and GT. It's like driving a Camaro or Mustang with a honda motor.
Shut ur face if by Honda engine you mean the Type R engine then you are spot on, considering the mustang makes over 300 horsepower base and the Camaro makes damn near 290. In contrast, the Civic Si makes 205 and is almost a second slower to 60.
michael cockrell because the 4 cylinder Camaro has much less horsepower than the 4 cylinder mustang. Based on horsepower numbers, the v6 Camaro is closer to the Ecoboost
LMFAO, was THAT AN INTERVIEW REFRENCE?!?! “Same same, but different?”
Sid I thought I was the only one who got it 😂
@@albertomendoza5356 nah bro, it was hard for me to miss
Sid 😭😭
That intro though😂
Also, love your Spider-Man shirt
The thing I hate about the ecoboost is the MT82 Manuel transmission it’s known to have problems the Camaro comes with a TREMEC trans which is known to be bulletproof
Dude you guys nailed it .. honestly i like them both in 4cyl version except for it’s colors .. great 👍🏾 video bro 😎
I have the 2020 Camaro 1LT and I must say I love it. Only being 25 and inexperienced with rear wheel drive vehicles this is the perfect starting car. Plenty of power. Would like to upgrade to the 2SS or ZL1 1LE in a few years as long as Chevy keeps making them.
i have some news for you bud
The Camaro is being discontinued lol
Even the ending is hilarious lmao top top channel
The eco boost mustang is really loaded with some torque, I thought it was pretty comfy too. Backseat for a dude who is 6 ft, not so much
Backseats aren’t important in a coup. But the mustang looks like it can definitely fit some smaller adults back. There
@@Boosted_aj yeah I know.It was just something I thought I’d throw in for those thinking about getting one.unfortunately the one I rode in belonged to a co-worked who crashed it into a pole on a rainy night driving pretty irresponsibly knowing the way he drove.he won’t touch anything like it ever again supposedly after he told me about the wreck
you guys do the best intros
A fox body Mustang GT when they came out were "only' 225HP. I remember the ad with the GT with the door open and the caption "Go ahead. Make your day." They were awesome and we never felt that 225hp was not enough as they tore up the streets all day long and NOTHING sounded better.
Most under-rated muscle ever! Ford Mustang EcoBoost!
I have to say you guys make really good intros and endings 🤣👍🏻. I would take this Mustang in white.
“Same same but differeeeeeeent” 😂😂 who else caught that “The Interview” reference
the skit at the beginning was great and your opinions weren't biased, id say this is a good review
You guys are the best man. Never fail to give me a good laugh along with all that info
Bruh. People really be out there throwing shade at V6 Mustang owners when this thing exists.
It just gets better and better with you guys! Loved it. And while I’m normally partial to Camaro, that particular Mustang was spec’d more to my liking (without the auto trans).
Keep up the good work. I’ve passed this along to a couple of friends, hopefully they’ll become subs.
Track Battle !!
Edit - His mom's a legend
I chose the Camaro 1LT turbo for several reasons. I have a ‘14 Challenger already. I owned a fox body stang new in ‘90 and had it running 11.7 @ 124 in the 1320 back in ‘94 in street trim driven easy. The I4 turbo in the Camaro is so cool that you have it tipping the scales at under 3400lbs and in a platform that can handle the twisties with a great deal of confidence. Put a tune on the LTG and you will be pushing some better HP numbers quite nicely. The 6th gen Camaro is quite honestly the best handling Camaro to come along. Period. And hitting 30mpg isn’t a bad thing.
thanks great review with funny segments and insights about the cars as well as good shots of them out on the road
Nice as usual, but you really should give Mel Brooks some credit for your intro.
When I traded in my V6 Challenger for a V8 Charger, it felt right. So to get a 4cyl version would feel like a crime
I want to do this with my ecoboost mustang so bad lol
"Destroyers of crowds" I'm dead ⚰☠😅
I am still not tired of my 2019 Ecoboost Performance package. I believe it is ONLY way to get an ecoboost if you can get it. With touch screen, flippy switches, and a 6 speed manual mine was around 30k or so US.
I drove a CVT ecoplus corolla for the past 5 years, this past year has been a hoot.
Your reviews are what the people want, well done chaps!