2024 Mustang GT Performance vs Camaro SS 1LE // DRAG RACE and LAP TIMES
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2023
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The 2024 Ford Mustang GT Premium with Performance Package ($54,845 starting in the US, $65,345 in Canada) the Chevrolet Camaro 2SS 1LE ($57,490 starting in the US, $74,160 in Canada) and the Ford F-150 FP700 (~$52,515 starting in the US) are lined up for a high powered drag race and some lap times. How does the new Mustang GT stand up against the tried and true Camaro SS 1LE? And are they both faster than a 700 horsepower supercharged truck in a straight line? Things don’t always go as you might expect in a drag race! Watch to see what happens! And then subscribe, silly.
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There was a moment where I thought Carston was actually going to take off with the real goats in the back!
PETA: REEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeee... eeeeeeeeee
For moment thought he will smoke them both
@@M7_Saffar I knew the pick up was gonna get left behind. 700 horsepower in a pick up truck won't help you win. A pick up with 700 horsepower will never beat cars with 400+ horsepower.
That was the point
I would love to have seen the real goats at the end of the track eating grass. 😅😂
Thanks for the review.
2024 Mustang GT Performance vs Camaro SS 1LE // DRAG RACE and LAP TIMES IS VERY GOOD VIDEO
Happy 😊
👍
Performance vs Camaro that is good to hear
Nice
That monologue for the Camaro around the track was like a scene a movie scene. Very well said with passion.
As a Camaro owner I do love the feeling i get while driving this car. I always feel as if I’m on the hunt. And I believe that has everything to do with the driving position you are in while in this car. Blind spots are “Bad” but the car is loud, it has an attitude, and it looks like it is stalking you whenever it behind someone. It is a menacing car that does what not many cars on the road today can do. And that is make driving fun. When I was a kid and got my license it was fun to drive. And this car has brought that back.
Chevy I just have one question why are you killing this outstanding car? 😢😢😢
I also own a Camaro, a 2017 SS, and I agree with everything you said.
honestly I kept hearing about "blind spots" but after having purchased one I don't feel this is an issue at all. If anything it feels like I have better blind spot visibility than a typical sedan.
@@chriswarren8834Same here, manual '17 SS, fun , fun, fun every drive.
@lorian4366 I received my 2022 in May of this year I have had to adjust to the blind that is over my left rear shoulder. I am basically a 6ft tall individual so maybe it is my seating position 🤔 but I must stay aware of who is around me. Dispite that. This car is still awesome to drive. I will hang on to it for as long as my leg will keep pushing the clutch. I hope the same for you.😄
@@rmpullenii I see I was mainly referring to the right rear blind spot. For my left I usually just have my window open and peek out if need to 😁. Thanks for the wishes and hope indeed you enjoy yours for as long as it drives.
That powerslide transition from James in the Camaro to Thomas in the Mustang was golden years Top Gear level. A+
agreed, the timing was too perfect
I didnt think anyone would catch that. One of so many reasons i love this channel!
Oh it was absolutely perfect, made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck 👌
@@mustangmike3830what about Plymouth Superbird?
Just came here to say the exact same thing
Carston kicking the goat out of anger has to be one of the funniest clips I’ve seen
Yeah hilarious….
Agreed 😂
@@markgt894who shit in your cereal
@@russellwestbrook6397 no one, it’s hilarious. Just so dam amusing.
tell me the time frame please .......
that LT1 just looks amazing, the ‘24 GT was showing out with its Straight-line power!
Every time I drive my 1LE, it puts a smile to my face even after a bad day 🙂
Me too. Love my 2019 1LE....and this video makes me love it more.
I’d love to drive one but I do own a 2012 Camaro modified 3.6 that I’m impressed with and a 2021 mustang gt premium that ilike
Facts
Camaro transmissions are terrible.
@@kjk4795 they're the best muscle/sports car transmissions. You must be smoking.
These guys are the GOATs of Car Review Videos.
Whoa whoa. That title is reserved for the holy trinity
Best on yt
Ah...I see what you did there.
and funny as hell 😂😂😂
Carwow is.
The intro kings of RUclips, you never let us down boys. Thanks for the review.
You mean the GOATs.
@@ZesPak I see what you did there, well played, lol.
what? why files, zeducation, kallme kris, terry solomon don`t count? love the show but kings, lmao
@@richardmead5969 Confused, but I do love their vlog intros, makes me laugh.
No truer statement has ever been made.
It's been fun watching the Mustang/Camaro lineage evolve over the past 25 years. The only thing that's baffling is paying 20-45% premium every model year refresh for a laughable 10% performance increase.
Proud to own a 2022 Camaro SS 1LE. Look how close the SS 1LE track time was compared to the GT500 and ZL1. Really impressive.
I'm more surprised it was faster track time than the gt500! Holy smokes
@@DoWorkNPThats due to the track mainly. Take them to lets say a real track like Laguna Seca or Road Atlanta where you get to stretch their legs properly and it will flip majorly. Im a car guy in general. Like any car really. Hell I can have fun in a base yaris lol. Daily atm is a bolt on 19' GT 401a, magneride, active exhaust, PP1, 6 speed. Only downside is no Tremac but I can drive the shit out of a manual so I'm okay lol.
@@jameslopez5652 well of course the times will flip on a track with bigger straight aways considering it's got almost 300hp more. That's where the ZL1 comes in which still puts up better lap time's with still less power.
The shot at 9:15 where Thomas rolls in sideways behind James just gives me chills each time. So frickin badass. Love you guys!!
SAME HERE ! IT MADE ME SO HAPPY
I rewatched it 3 times ❤️
Yup!
@@user-ny2mm8mu8ei rewatched it 77 times.
Yeah, that was a great scene. Nice transition. Well done, guys.
Damn I really love watching James gather driving skill over the years, that drift in the camaro was choice
Camaro and Mustang have been nice choice for many.
I notice every episode he gets better and better. Love to see it.
Timestamp
I love how good James has gotten at sliding around! Love seeing this
That mustang is a beast! This definitely reminds me of old top gear episodes. Loving it
I love how good James has gotten at sliding around! Love seeing the progression
right! bros gotten great at driving
He’s all growed up.
@@ThrottleHousegrown* not growed 😭
@@Inawellono no, they were making a funny.
@@Inawello all growned up
"I don't want to whisper about the Camaro, I want to SHOUT!"
Omg you're gonna make me cry man.
literally same. My favourite car since I was a boy.
Yo the scene when James was talking about the end of the camaro and drifted around the corner and then Thomas broke into the frame drifting behind him in the mustang was absolutely peak automotive content and I ran it back 3 times 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks guys, I thoroughly enjoyed that!
Great video as always; witty, entertaining, informative, FUN!!
9:13 that power slide transition with the mustang chasing.... BEAUTIFUL
I think that I’d prefer buying a used GT350R than jumping into a new Gen Mustang GT.
100%. Its still a way better car.
Man those are still pricey
It's out of the price range
Agreed. Dark horse are like 75k fully loaded
@IanMart man i aint driving around the track give me a premium gt with a procharger im good lol
Yeah, they should have put the Corvette's LT-2 engine in the Camaro for it's send-off year. The 495HP might make a difference especially considering they increased the price.
I could never understand why gm does'nt revamp their v-8 with dohc technology.they can squeeze so much more hp and higher revving engines.
Dodge would’ve done that. Dodge also would’ve supercharged it and put it in a Camaro. And they would’ve put a supercharged LT2 in the Silverado ZR2. Unfortunately GM is succumbing to wokeness and abandoning what’s made them who they are. Makes 0 sense
Best ever integration of sponsor into content with the Weathertech bedliners. Completely funny and woven seamlessly into the storyline so it didn’t feel like a commercial break. A+.
As an SS 1LE owner, this makes me happy... And sad that they are stopping production of it.
God forbid GM puts the LT2 in the camaro 😤🤦🏻♀️
@@dnegel9546 so true i would've traded in my ss 1le if they did.
@@thetruthhurtsisee whats it like driving one if those on a daily? Like do you feel you have to much car for day to day use?
I ask cuz I’m thinking a SS would be to much car for me. So looking at a LT1 trim.
@@dnegel9546 its super easy to drive as my daily. my pervious daily was a wrx sti so when its rains in miami its nowhere near as confidence inspiring but in the dry its phenomenal and has more traction but it has traction control so that solves alot of problems in the rain. i immediately suggest the 1le or zl1 305 goodyear supercar3 tires and rims because the base ss and the lt1 tire size is way to small for the power. cool burnouts but horrible off the line traction. the ss and lt1 have the same motor and transmission but the lt1 has tiny brakes, basic suspension. you can save the money but please upgrade the brakes and tires as they're laughably tiny. i think for the first month i was like wow this is powerful now i drive it and im ehhhh i need more power. the car is super easy to drive with linear easy to control power. not a good car for a teenager but great for someone who has had fast sports in the past. i got a 1le which is basically a zl1 without the supercharger so everything on the car is overdeveloped for the minimal power it produces as its made for a 650 hp car and now making only 600 it still isn't up the limits of what the car can handle just be ok with smiles per gallon because the mpg is atrocious nut its a v8 so par for the course.
@@dnegel9546 Its like the perfect amount of power, especially on the highway when having to go around slow drivers in the left lane.
We definitely need more Cowboy Carston.
me too
Think he also had the most speaking lines of any vid so far too!
CONGRATS for becoming a Road and Track article, you guys are really moving up in the world. LOVE the videos.
This video makes me happier for my decision to keep my supercharged 2017 50th Anniversary SS. It will age gracefully while being a track and straight road monster. 👏🏼
I'm a Ford man but completely agree with you, we have quickly reached the end of good muscle cars. No way will I enter the electric era. Are muscle cars are only going to appreciate since within 10 years they will no longer exist.
@@seacradev5400don't close the door on them just yet buddy cause all the car manufacturers are starting to fightback over this while all electric bullsht by 2035. So who knows we could still have muscle cars in 10 to 20 year's.
@@chriskolaska897 Man I hope, somebody needs to tell the EPA to back off but either way I'll still never get an EV and being a Ford man I'm glad to see Ford is already seeing the light and realizing EVs aren't the immediate future.
@@chriskolaska897 And one thing that these EV lovers just don't understand is yeah they can be quick but man they weigh too much they eat through tires like they're nothing and I don't care how many Tesla owners gloat about their car yet I've seen dozens of them. The paint jobs are terrible the body panels don't line up, service centers are non-existent so is customer service. I know, I have a brother-in-law that owns one and I got to sit there for an hour watching him on hold just trying to get brake pads for his beloved Tesla, yet Tesla owners on here claim they have zero issues and their cars are perfect where I rather find a freaking Yugo and drive that over an electric car any day.
Appreciate the inclusion of the Camaro at least one more time. Here's to hoping that GM has a surprise up their sleeve for us!
Uh yeah. In form of a collector's edition. 100% an appearance package. RIP Camaro.
@jamesmin2837 well, I was hoping for a good kind of surprise, not that...
The surprise is that they're ending production even earlier than they initially claimed. 🤬
Doubt it, I traded mine in for a c7, best decision ever
@@montecarloss305 I am a 6th Gen Camaro owner. But sales wise, the car was am absolute disaster. GM did nothing to help it during the fresh with it's resign. Nor did it get any significant performance bump (like S550 Mustang), or tech. GM gave up on it a long time ago. I love the Camaro, many enthusiasts love the Camaro, but it was destined to be killed off. I'm actually surprised that it even lasted as long as it has.
"It's like getting out of a pickup and getting into a Porsche"... every Ford driver took that personally!
Lol
I mean it’s true. Having had a 2013 mustang and a 2018 Camaro, it’s a drastically different feel inside the car. You feel higher up and have more room in the mustangs than In the Camaro, Which feel like you’re sitting on the ground
Lol that’s what you got out of it? The comparison was more for how it drives
Nahh camaros look dated and ugly. The best year was 2018
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 Thsts exactly the point. The Camaro does all better.
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I’ve been a Mustang guy my whole life, but man these newer SS 1LE’s are great! They’re definitely on my list to own. Love the honest reviews!
If that ss 1le was a manual it wouldve tied the gt both times, I was eating 10 spd camaros as a 6 spd manual
98-02 SS/WS6 6spd still best years imo
That doesn't make sense the auto is faster
More like biased review how are you going to take a review of an ss 1le dedicated track focused variant of the ss versus base GT ? That’s like comparing the dark horse to the base Camaro SS … very stupid comparison these RUclips nerds aren’t as smart as you think they can’t even get the models right
@@CoyoteFTWbitter mustang fan. What a creep.
Never in my life have I clicked a video so fast!
Same 😂😂
Doesn't really matter...it's not going anywhere.
same!
RIGHT!!?? 😂
Yeah sure bud, I bet those pornhub clicks are no comparison huh??!
The weathertech segment was wild 😂
It went swimingly
the coolest and funniest sponsorship presentation ever !!! nailed it - you guys are the GOATS
9:13 that power slide transition with the mustang chasing.... BEAUTIFUL. Thanks for the review..
Your track looks way cooler when the corn is high. A real "field of dreams" vibe.
I was thinking "Children of the Corn". Especially with Cowboy Carston and the "Kicking of the goats"!😂
I am fortunate enough to own a 21 SS 1LE 6M. I have owned a few iconic Japanese, German, and British sports cars over the years, but this is my first American sports car. I decided on it because of reviews and videos like this. I love the driving experience. It's got incredible grip and makes you want to push it all the time. Problem is the limits are so high that you're always way over the speed limit. 2 tickets in the first 4 months and had to go to court to fight to keep my license. It's like the "bad influence" friend that keeps getting you in trouble but is so much fun to be with.
Thanks for the great videos! (and the recommendations....I think)
Good cars are those which gets you in trouble 😊 not just get you to point A to B
Yeah having a muscle car or any sports car in general takes a lot of throttle discipline aye dont look at it in a negative way !! Its a blessing u have ur license still nd u gotta beautiful car also its a blessing u didnt crash it or anything!!
You HAVE to take the 1LE to the track. It's a must. Had one for almost 3 years. It's such a capable car for the money.
@danielmembrillo6472 That was the reason for getting it, but the tickets keep taking my track money!
Edit: I did take it to the Tail of the dragon (Ticket #1)
Buy a radar detector for your car so you’ll know if a cop is near by.
You guys never fail to surprise me with your antics.
"our track, whose surface was inspired by the back of a stegosaurus..." that is an epic quote
Whoa, James putting down big power slides now? He looks much more confident with it now 🔥
He always does man.
@@purwantiallan5089 he does. But he's now holding bigger slides on this video.
Can we just take a moment and acknowledge the power slide transition from camaro to mustang was insanely epic. Goosebumps
Well this always got me goosebump.
zzz
Thomas Holland > Tom Holland
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The fact that the truck can keep up is pretty impressive
With ~700HP I'd hope so but looking at it another way it is a frod.
@@FL50ssp Ford has the fastest truck on the market, so I don't see why saying "it is a Ford" means anything.
If it was 4x4 it'd launch way harder.
Thank you guys for making some awesome Camaro SS1LE comparison content. First the Z Vs the 1LE and now the S650 GT. It a great benchmark in which to test track capabilities on these “new” platforms
The ss 1le is ridiculously underrated
@mogulme6190 U got that right ,I only started looking into the 1LE's about a year ago and the more I researched them the more I had to have one,I actually ordered a 2023 2SS 1LE M6 that ended up not getting built,so I doubled down and ordered a 2024 2SS 1LE and my order was accepted sept 7 ,I cant wait till it comes home
Ya to bad it's so dang ugly though
@@mattmasi303 I'm with frankie0728...function over form.
@@frankie072sold mine in 2022 the biggest regret I sold it to get a Ford raptor and I just miss my Camaro manual 1le, I hope in some years I get some money to get my baby back and keep my truck. Congratulations in your new 1le you’re going to love it.
“Getting out of that and into this, was like getting out of a pickup truck and into a Porsche. “.
Damn… That’s just brutal.
OUCH! Poor Mustang. 😢😢😢
Calm down. That's just the GT as in Grand Touring. It didn't have performance tires or magnetic shocks. This is the model meant for street racing. ALSO IT'S NOT DEAD! GO DIG YOUR CAMARO UP! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 JKJK.
Yeah I thought he was too harsh 😅. And I’m not knocking the camero. The 1LE is an outstanding track car. But that mustang should be a little quicker than he was with it. I mean, he spent 2 minutes bitching about the steering feel and under steer. I have an older mustang and I think the steering is great; and I’ve never thought it had too much under steer either. Hopefully the new ones aren’t really that bad?😬
@@smackledorfmcsweenTypical mustang fanboy coping
Always great reviews but you two can be so hilarious at the same time and very informant
Both are amazing but the 1LE is a bit different class
I love my 2SS. It's a shame the stigma of poor visibility seemed to really effect its sales because it is fantastic and visibility isn't an issue. I wonder how the much lighter lt1 or 1SS would compare on a drag race with the new GT
visibility is 100% an issue with camaros
and the trunk is tiny
@@konabluegt7347 trunk is very small. Especially compared to when I had a challenger. I daily my Camaro and I promise you it isn't nearly as big of an issue as you think. The 2SS makes it even better with the camera rear mirror and blind spot momitors
@@konabluegt7347A typical mustang owner coping
I don't think poor visibility was the main issue; the main issue is the interior is cramped. I went to check one out in 2016 after it won the COTY awards. The sales people were cussing them; funny how a car can win COTY and actual buyers turn away. In contrast the S550 Mustangs got oh-hum to bad reviews and it's been a run away best seller.
@@Steve-yr5vi I loved the roomy feel of my challenger. But I also love the fighter pilot feel of the Camaro. To each their own I suppose
It’s such a shame that Camaro is going away. I wish more people knew exactly how fantastic the SS/1LE really is. Sure there are faster cars, but it is the absolute most bang for your buck currently available across the entire world. It is an incredibly capable track car out of the box. And no, we’re not talking about drag racing for those confused. We’re talking about road course lapping. Anyone can drive in a straight line. This thing out laps just about everything aside from supercars. This includes many Porches, Jaguars, Most Corvettes, and everything GT 350 and lower from Ford. The list goes on, and it’s at the very least $20k cheaper than the cheapest of them all. None of these stand a chance against an SS/1LE. It’s the best common man’s Camaro ever built! Truly an anomaly!
I want the dark horse performance pack versus The Mach One handling pack versus the Camaro super sport 1le. That is the video everybody's been waiting for. It would be awesome to compare the track times between all of this top trips in one sitting.
Camaro ZL1 not SS 1le, because Dark Horse cost as much as a ZL1 and even more with dealer mark ups.
This would also be a proper way to send both the Mach 1 and the 1LE off into the the sunset.
Yeah still waiting on the Mach 1 and the GT500 CFTP to make an appearance. I have a feeling Thomas might actually like a Mustang then.
@al151 While I agree with the premise, we all know the zl1 would smash the darkhorse. I've yet to see a really good SS 1LE vs Mach 1 video. Randy Pobst did one but was kinda mismatched.
What you say about the mustang steering is 100% correct. I sold my 2021 5.0 GT for a 6.2 Camaro and I couldn't be happier with the upgrade. The steering and the way the Camaro attaches to your body is like the movie Avatar. And for my testing the best 0-60 I could ever muster with my mustang was 4.5 with my Camaro I ran a 4.3 1st try..
I mean stock for stock yes, but mustang have aftermarket suspension/wheels/ tuning if they tune its suspension it will keep up with the camaro on track times
@@unfairsanic5089 ok but put equal money into the camaro it still wont be even close .
4.3 with 455hp is a joke
@@sylvaind.6786455 horsepower is a joke itself lol. . How fast do you expect it to go 😂
@@blaqjac21depends on what money/suspension youre talking about because ive seen mustangs that are quicker around the track than a camaro with cheaper mods
"A track whose surface is inspired by the back of a stegosaurus." 😂
Someone needs to smack the designer who decided that giant screen in the mustang looks good.
Its been too long since a track test, I'm glad they're back!!
"Our track, who's surface is inspired by the back of a stegosaurus"
Ah, james has such a way with words.
Watching Carston attempt to abscond with the goats was pure comedy gold, but James leveling up his drifting skills is the real MVP moment here! 💪🔥 I can't decide what's more impressive, the progression of driving finesse over the years or the unadulterated humor that seeps through every video.
Yea Chevy took the W here
The camaro has aged gracefully. Mogging the Nissan Z and MKV Supra in the straights and corners. Definitely ahead of its time
The Camaro will forever be a white trash Ferrari, most at home in a trailer park or barracks. It’s not mogging anything lmao.
@@_Quattr09take it easy buddy. Peeps from all races, sex, and religion drive camaros.
@@_Quattr09camaro is the better Ferrari. You don’t need millions to buy a big engine with plastic around it. Ontop of that, the parts and maintence doesn’t cost an arm and a leg and will drive just as fast around a track. And you’re not signing your life away to Ferrari
Supra is quicker though
@@_Quattr09 thats technically what the corvette is and they perform better than rraris nowadays
Costs are outrageous. The 1LE package on my 2015 Camaro SS was only $3,500! It’s also a 2SS with every option but Recaro seats. It was still only $45k!
Don’t even get me started on my King Ranch F-150 and how much they’ve gone up since 2015…
Yessir... few more updated mods to your 2015 you keep up with 6th gens in the corners
well in honesty back in 2017-2021 ish the 1LE 1ss was only about 44K with recaros which it absolutely needs
@@7000U9ZHIFT truthfully, given that this car will consistently pull 1.1-1.2 G on back roads without breaking a sweat, power was more of a concern. Cam and headers and it made an extra 80 WHP. The only thing I did for handling was add the Z/28 spoiler with duckbill. I also run PS4S tires, which are definitely better than the factory Goodyears.
The thing is though, if you try to add everything on the 1le package to an ss, the cost comes out around 13-14 grand without installation fees
@@blaqjac21 I didn’t want the Recaro seats in my car bc I’m a wide dude and I do a lot of cruising and road trips. My brother’s 6G has Recaro seats and they’re a bit tight for me.
And yeah, you’re right, bc I was considering a 1LE in 2018/2019 before prices jumped from covid BS.
This was a great episode, a lot of comedy but also 🙏🏾a lot of technical analysis 💯
Was waiting for this 👍🏽
Incredibly sad that they decided to kill off the Camaro. GM really did slap their fans with that announcement.
There's no way that will be the end....I would imagine they will bring It or some other car back in the distant future. It will take time after they figure out electric isn't the end all be all.
my money is on them bringing it back as an electric crossover to compete with the mustang mach-e
@BigTwigs1981 but it would never be a Camaro, neither the Mach-E is a jusMustang, t electrical SUVs
@BigTwigs1981 but it would never be a Camaro, neither the Mach-E is a Mustang, just electrical SUVs
good riddance chev junk
I'm just gonna throw this out there: we need Carston to chime in with his inputs on these races.
I love my 2SS. I've taken it to the track so I know what it can truly do. It's so much fun at fast speeds around corners. SUPER SMOOTH. Not to mention the ZL1 Wing I have on mine helps with that, but does affect your visibility when looking at your inside mirror. The front headlights just give off that Deathstare like it's ready to fight and that's before I put a front splitter on and canards. With those it's gonna look even more mean looking.
Yall. The editing on Thomas's entrance with the mustang to the track was a thing of epically poetic beauty.
Can’t tell you how much I appreciate you guys and the quality content you continue to make. Keep it up guys!
FP700: when Ford realizes it's Lightning image was ruined so they made a "Lightning" package thats not a Lightning, but is.
I have been wanting to see a drag race between the Mustang and the Camaro since they first came on the scene. The cowboy kicking the goats at the end of the first race was hilarious. Thank you.
Nice and awesome
Your storytelling is improving and developing over the last few years. Keep it up.
That's the truck that should have been the new Lightning.
You guys never fail to surprise me with your antics. Always so genuine and wholesome, keep it up guys!
My 2ss 1le has just been ordered. I'll be getting it in a few months. I can't wait!
You guys are always so in depth, love to watch even tho sometimes you may say something’s that I knew but didn’t want to hear 😢
The Camaro is leaving the game out on top
Not in sales. The mustang killed off the Camaro again.
@@BrandonGoodwin-qz2khmake less cars = make less sales🤯
@@BrandonGoodwin-qz2kh Sales don't matter on the track.
@@BrandonGoodwin-qz2khmustangs suck get over it
@@BrandonGoodwin-qz2kh And a bugatti sells less than a lamborghini does that make it an inferior car? Keep coping.
Have loved watching this channel grow to unreal proportions over the years. Great job fellas
Amazing ! I like this episode very well your job 👍
My god I was rolling less than 1 minute into this. Keep it up!
The Camaro for having an LT1 that hasn’t been touched since the year it came out in 2014 is still incredible. You can’t beat that car around a track unless you have something much more expensive. Great car.
@junitoss83,
Well said.
That’s 100% facts!
I’m still amazed at how well it drives.
There’s magic in that suspension..👍
What a joke. Putting the 1LE against a regular GT and complaining about how dull the GT is around the track. Test should have been against the SS only. Apples and oranges guys. Purpose built track car vs regular car.
@shaneknight13 that's the premium gt, the black wing is like z28 level
@shaneknight13 Price is comparable. The Dark Horse is way more expensive. The 1LE directly competes with the Performance Pack GT
This is why I’ve never had a Mustang .. to get the same track performance as SS1LE I would’ve had to go to a GT350. Great car but performance/dollar never made sense. Bespoke motor or not, performance capabilities matter for a track car. Mustang interiors also always looked like 10 years in the past
Love Camaro and Mustang both💙
Both look ugly now!
Camaros and Mustangs looked so much better a few years ago.
Hi there guys and hello from Tasmania, Australia. Great video, as always. Thomas, i have a question for you. How much of a difference in lap times do you see just from a tyre swap? I ask because sometimes you see a car that should handle a bit better, only to be let down by the hoops. Cheers.
I bought my SS 1LE a few months ago based off these guys’ older review and I love it!
Got to get the Dark Horse with that 6 speed Tremec 🔥
This demonstrates the problem with the Camaro and why it's outsold by the Mustang every year. The Camaro is the better track car. The Mustang is the better street car.
0:07 i likehow you got in and already had seatbelt on. Lightning fast moves :D
This feels like a personal attack on thestraightpipes 😂
Best Mustang vs Camaro comparison I have seen. Well done and keep the great reviews coming ! After watching this video, it is really making me think about getting the SS 1LE and selling my ‘23 Mach 1 6MT !?!
Would be rad to see a comparison of the 1LE, Dark Horse and GT PP all manual transmission. Even if the Dark Horse is 20k more than a 1LE it would be nice to see how they stack up. As an owner of a 18 SS 1LE 6spd it is hands down the best daily driver I could ask for. I've driven everything else in its class and it's not even a comparison. I will keep this car forever.
The dark horse is 10k more than a 1LE.
The Darkhorse runs faster laptimes than the GT350R so my guess is that the Darkhorse is faster than a 1LE.
dangerously close to being not only my fav channel rn, but fav of all time
Great review as always. I think this really goes to show the chassis of the Camaro is beyond world class. The engineers outdid themselves. I'm sure the Dark Horse will be great but the 1LE is the one I would take home if I had an extra 60k. I'd do the manual, big cam, tune and exhaust. That's the dream.
Both cars are ugly though…
The previous gens looked so much better!
@@Kev27RS 67-68 Firebird wins for looks.
100% I would also take the camaro....heads, cam, intake would be amazing on it. The camaro I bet still runs within a second or so of the dark horse. Mark my words! I bet the dark horse is about a second quicker than the ssle, and for half the price. Why wouldn't you get a camaro??
If I'm spending 70-80k. I'm getting an actual fast car, a c7 z06 or c6 zr1, not a glorified mustang gt.
The new mustangs are hideous. Except the dark horse doesn't look as bad. I didn't like the grill on this camaro as much. I like the 2018 grill better. I think the camaro looks better overall.
@@leonvoltaire I was talking about the Mustangs and Camaros from the last 10 years.
Not the classics.
First time seeing a review of these 2 of such nature. Glad I’m here
These guys are the the perfect balance between stupid and smart. They are smart enough that I trust what they are saying, but stupid enough to keep me entertained the entire time. By far the best car review channel!
For me, the previous gen Mustang Bullitt edition is the peak, both exterior and interior wise. Perfection.
It definitely is. The Mach 1 wasn't much of an improvement for the price, and the current gt makes the same as the bullit did, but with an extra throttle body. I personally felt like the Bullit handled like ut was on rails
GT350 ftw!😎
To think I was going to enjoy the beginning sketch for my lunch break…
If only you knew
I Love my 22 2ss 1le. if anything were to happen to mine I would hands down get another! both the mustang pp2 and the supra were on my list as the 2ss 1le's are quite hard to come by unfortunately plus the price increase and market adjustments im so glad I got mine when I did. great honest review as always
I ordered mine so I was able to get it at MSRP. Had to wait 5 months , but it was so worth it. Such a great car!
I enjoy driving my 2022 SS 1le I just added the lt2 and ported throttle body
If you add anything to a 60000 plus vehicle then you're still not satisfied with your purchase
@bruceleejr7631 yeah tell that to any car guy and they will say bs because we enjoy upgrading whatever we can especially when it comes to our cars
@@playboy51904 And then WHAT...down the same rabbit hole, It's your $$'s
Did anybody else notice the meteor or UFO at the 7:57-7:58 mark streaking across the sky !?! Great video as always, keep up the good work fellas.
The outgoing Mach1 with handling package is great on the track! I’ll just keep my 22 Mach1
I almost got one but I ended up not being able to sell one of my other cars in time, and someone else bought the Mach 1 I was looking at. Biggest regret in life besides a previous failed relationship
Mach 1 on those cup 2s is very impressive. I was ripping up GT4s in my last session in one, bone stock except X-pipe. Some lowering springs, sway bars, more aggressive camber should really make it a missile.
very intresting race and i am really enjoyed and i am shared my friends and keep going
Between y’all, Savagegeese, and The Straight Pipes…we’re so lucky to have such amazing content creators on RUclips.
The Messi and Ronaldo collab was so unexpected 😮
S550 owner here, I think the S650 looks good, but I'm glad I have my 19 PP1 with the analog dash
They should tune the previous gen mustang with aftermarrket suspension/pp2 tyres/+hp and i bet it will keep up with the camaro on track