2024 Mustang Dark Horse // V8 DRAG RACE, Review & Lap Time

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2023
  • The 2024 Ford Mustang Dark Horse ($77,045 starting in Canada, $61,510 in the US) has arrived at the Throttle House test track to set some lap times and drag race its outgoing competition. Lining up beside it for the quarter mile is the 2023 Chevrolet Camaro LT1 ($45,874 starting in Canada, $37,045 in the US) and the 2023 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack 392 Widebody ($69,710 starting in Canada, $56,855 in the US). How will the new performance variant Mustang perform on our home track? And is it fast enough to take down its powerful yet soon to be discontinued competition? Thomas and James can’t wait to find out! We hope you enjoy the episode. And then subscribe, silly.
    Thank you to Michelin Canada for replacing the tires for the day. www.michelin.ca/
    Thank you to Grimsby Chrysler for providing the Camaro! www.grimsbychrysler.ca/
    And to the the Dark Horse and Mach1 owner Eric, for making this all possible.
    And to Jeremy, who drove that Challenger like he stole it.
    Editor: Karston Chong
    Sound: Harrison Dickson and Karston Chong
    Magical Genius Logistics Planners: James Engelsman and Joey Alford
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  • @MrVara411
    @MrVara411 6 месяцев назад +5389

    Let's all take a moment to appreciate the fact that this is likely the LAST TIME three naturally aspirated, manual transmission icons face off like this.

    • @28fabianz1
      @28fabianz1 6 месяцев назад +317

      Thanks for the depression 😞

    • @ClickbaitMotorsports
      @ClickbaitMotorsports 6 месяцев назад +77

      And it goes in this order...Camaro, Challenger and last, S650 Mustang. The newest one is the worst option. Sadly.

    • @That1greykight0666
      @That1greykight0666 6 месяцев назад

      EV will fail they’ll all be back when the government quits pushing electric

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 6 месяцев назад

      Yep and remember it’s not by choice!
      People want to buy those cars!
      It’s politicians forcing car companies to stop building those beloved cars and they forcefully ruin the western auto industry.
      While the cheap and dangerous Chinese crap gets promoted, it’s just ridiculous and super scary..

    • @Sly_Wolf_1
      @Sly_Wolf_1 6 месяцев назад +62

      Yes it's both sad and an absolutely disgusting extinction event!

  • @phil8761
    @phil8761 6 месяцев назад +1936

    James is hilarious! Goes from: "Go dark horse! Yeahhhhhh! Monstahhhh! 500 horse power!" to "Whooo, that was scary. Losing traction. I'm a father now, I can't be doing that." to "Let’s do that again." all in less than 30 secs.

    • @watmonfredrick6716
      @watmonfredrick6716 6 месяцев назад +36

      The power of thrust

    • @ClickbaitMotorsports
      @ClickbaitMotorsports 6 месяцев назад +10

      😂 That Dark Horse must be a floaty, poor handling beast. Ford definitely tried to fill the gap left by the Challenger Scatpack with the S650s.

    • @JCintheBCC
      @JCintheBCC 6 месяцев назад +22

      Was he singing Katy Perry while drag racing?

    • @chilloff5948
      @chilloff5948 6 месяцев назад +20

      hahah yea I noticed that. Also said earlier "can I get an F in the chat" when talking about Carson getting married. Legend 😂@@JCintheBCC

    • @ftlnetwork6067
      @ftlnetwork6067 6 месяцев назад +8

      lol I was just about to comment thus. Dude is hilarious and the katy perry quote lol.

  • @rayescastillo6605
    @rayescastillo6605 6 месяцев назад +16

    Watching this video just shows how far James has come as a driver. When I first started watching your guy stuff I feel like I could definitely take him as far as driving goes. But now he may have the edge on me. Way to go James.

  • @ktscav13
    @ktscav13 6 месяцев назад +28

    Hats off to the drone pilot! That chase footage from above was incredible

  • @kevindavis5966
    @kevindavis5966 6 месяцев назад +558

    It's been genuinely impressive watching James' driving skills improve over the years. He's a ripper now!

    • @ThatYellowPokemon
      @ThatYellowPokemon 6 месяцев назад +11

      i remember watching him drive a gt3 being worried lmfao

    • @sunburn8640
      @sunburn8640 6 месяцев назад +3

      You so right. When Thomas first brought James onboard after dropping that racecar driver , Thomas did all the drafts as James literally stood on the sideline and cheered Thomas on. James Cherry has been popped and he’s on the field and in the game now instead of just cheerlesding

    • @sunburn8640
      @sunburn8640 6 месяцев назад +1

      Minute 2:04 when these bad ass American thumpers throw revs.. I’m gonna miss that soooo much. They all sound great and different. Mustangs have always owned the exhaust game with these 3 Titans though…

    • @sunburn8640
      @sunburn8640 6 месяцев назад

      Whoever was driving that Dodge deserves mad props. He was way closer than snd Dodge should ever be from a dog against these two..

    • @sunburn8640
      @sunburn8640 6 месяцев назад +1

      James buy the Dark Horse if you really want to get Thomas’ goat…
      I watched this again. Ok I’ve watched it 5 times but that’s not why I’m here. I can appreciate you really like this Stang. You genuinely do and it was shining through. Thomas does prefer the 1LE , we all know this as he reminded us in this video again by not just saying the Camaro has better gearbox and feel and is more engaging etc but he emphasized how much better it is “it’s not NEARLY as good as the Camaro” come on Thomas. These two Mustangs are excellent cars and I’m sorry, they are truly quite engaging…Unlike most car review channels , which mainly agree with each other and especially on the 1LE since everyone in media just says 1LE as if it’s the answer to everything. Full bias everytime with preconceived victor no matter what. However, you really liked this DH. I say you buy it. Buy the damn thing and flex on every 1LE you pass…

  • @AdrianJReynolds
    @AdrianJReynolds 6 месяцев назад +573

    The owner should be PROUD of how you tossed that car around the track. My lord. I'm proud on their behalf. Well done as always, gentlemen. o7

  • @dallasfrost1996
    @dallasfrost1996 6 месяцев назад +110

    This just goes to show how amazingly good the Alpha platform was in the 6th gen Camaro. It's still to this day the best track car for the money within the segement. Sad to see such a great performance car go.

    • @marcob1729
      @marcob1729 2 месяца назад +4

      I just really wish that they had addressed the side window situation. The lack of visibility has always been very uncomfortable for me

    • @1gbayfisher
      @1gbayfisher Месяц назад +1

      ​@@marcob1729 To change that, they would have needed to change the entire chassis, no?

    • @jeffs3119
      @jeffs3119 Месяц назад +1

      @@1gbayfisher cadillac also used the alpha platform.

  • @pletonicsolids
    @pletonicsolids 6 месяцев назад +33

    Shoutout to the guy that lent his brand new $100K+ car to these guys to drag race and drift around a track.

    • @flieger8332
      @flieger8332 3 месяца назад +3

      The mustang is only like 70k

    • @NicholasRobertsvalleyford
      @NicholasRobertsvalleyford 3 месяца назад

      I have this exact dark horse available with recaro seats and 6 speed tremec for sale at sticker right now. New with 32miles

    • @5.0_marcus
      @5.0_marcus 2 месяца назад +2

      Lmao this guy 😂​@NicholasRobertsvalleyford

  • @nbrider7235
    @nbrider7235 6 месяцев назад +256

    The stuffed goat in the backseat of the Dark Horse was a nice touch.

    • @tallguysix8
      @tallguysix8 6 месяцев назад +10

      Also saw that 🤣

    • @d3m1g0d4
      @d3m1g0d4 6 месяцев назад +2

      I was looking for your comment

    • @Allwayzworkin
      @Allwayzworkin 6 месяцев назад

      I feel like every car needs a mascot in the backseat 😅 mine is baby yoda

    • @flydq502
      @flydq502 6 месяцев назад

      I peeped game too. Definitely a good idea

    • @Zeraphicus
      @Zeraphicus 6 месяцев назад

      Courtesy of Ford Marketing department

  • @chrisdafurz
    @chrisdafurz 6 месяцев назад +160

    James singing Dark Horse while ripping it was truly amazing 💀

  • @sinosleep007
    @sinosleep007 6 месяцев назад +7

    I know it's a boat and it's never going to the quickest thing around, but I love my challenger. Massive trunk, usable back seats, enough power to be a bit of a hooligan when I want to be, and I get compliments on it all the time even though there are a million of em out there.

    • @daadvanzdone2335
      @daadvanzdone2335 5 месяцев назад

      Mopar or No Car

    • @Evolution10X
      @Evolution10X 4 месяца назад

      @@daadvanzdone2335mopar is short for more parts

  • @joeylewis8615
    @joeylewis8615 6 месяцев назад +6

    I'm really going to miss these comparos of V8 rear wheel drive pony cars, especially the Camaro vs. Mustang. I grew up watching these battles on MotorWeek in the 80's and 90's. I really will miss these cars trading punches on the track and dragstrip.

  • @SuzukiKid400
    @SuzukiKid400 6 месяцев назад +445

    It doesn’t matter which car wins the drag race, they’re all winners in my book. Farewell beautiful V8 manual trans cars. You sound amazing, you’re fun to drive, and you’ve given so many of us amazing entertainment for many decades. So long.

    • @OGbobbylocdogg
      @OGbobbylocdogg 6 месяцев назад +1

      Gotta make a choice. Man up! Kiddie time is over!

    • @MrGFG003
      @MrGFG003 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@OGbobbylocdogg Hell yeah... everybody get excited for boring electric toaster races... here's my face of adulting excitement: T___T ...(I wish I could exit this life)

    • @user-vh5zq3jx6r
      @user-vh5zq3jx6r 4 месяца назад

      honda civic designs styles japan made

    • @JoeLattimore-ss2pm
      @JoeLattimore-ss2pm 4 месяца назад +1

      I'm a Ford guy, and yeah.. all 3 are badass and can outrun each one another on any given day really..

    • @nighthawk0077
      @nighthawk0077 3 месяца назад

      I feel like people have been saying this for at least the last 5 years. Yet here we are, we still have large V8 American muscle cars with a manual

  • @carlpereira234
    @carlpereira234 6 месяцев назад +126

    This is definitely an iconic trio

  • @sdlausen1
    @sdlausen1 6 месяцев назад +2

    All THREE are amazing in their own way. Be thankful we still have these cars today.

  • @NarLyNaRdi
    @NarLyNaRdi 6 месяцев назад +176

    The Darkhorse has 45 more HP than the LT1 and is double the price. I’m actually surprised the LT1 kept up with it, like it did. Very impressive!!

    • @joaquinsalinas1476
      @joaquinsalinas1476 6 месяцев назад +21

      GM could build a good car just wasn’t marketed well

    • @chrishouston1406
      @chrishouston1406 6 месяцев назад +29

      It's called torque. 40ft.lbs across the powerband with 300 less pounds makes a big difference.

    • @Xhabit300
      @Xhabit300 6 месяцев назад +23

      The darkhorse is also fully loaded & a borderline muscle luxury vehicle lmfao

    • @anthonylong5870
      @anthonylong5870 6 месяцев назад +16

      And its worth the money because there are 100'000's of the Camaros and the Dark Horse is a very limited edition that will appreciate much more than the Camaro

    • @inanimateuser9828
      @inanimateuser9828 6 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@anthonylong5870but the equivalent of the rare dark horse trim in the camaro is equally rare and would walk the mustang. I'd say the zl1 isn't fair to compare it to but...

  • @ITS__Kitoy
    @ITS__Kitoy 6 месяцев назад +241

    That in sync reaction to the brakes at 5:15 was probably the most genuine reaction to good brakes that is severely underrated in these types of high horsepower type of cars.

  • @yuriteixeira5816
    @yuriteixeira5816 6 месяцев назад +132

    The ad break at 14:31 was just perfect. The timing was there, and yall saw the opportunity and took it.

    • @ripclaybourne
      @ripclaybourne 6 месяцев назад +9

      What ad break?

    • @shanebanana
      @shanebanana 6 месяцев назад +1

      Same bro! Instantly came to the comments to see if it was just me that got that ad lol

    • @steven8075
      @steven8075 6 месяцев назад

      ad break? what?

    • @yuriteixeira5816
      @yuriteixeira5816 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yall can't have revanced on ALL your devices can you?

    • @brolyvi1211
      @brolyvi1211 6 месяцев назад

      Ya’ll didnt watch or skipped thru the video. There is an ad. 😅😂

  • @speedweid
    @speedweid 6 месяцев назад

    I really enjoyed your detailed feedback and comparison to the Mach one! Well done.

  • @Mad_Medz
    @Mad_Medz 6 месяцев назад +18

    I absolutely love all 3 of these cars but this race played out exactly how i expected 😂👏

  • @Ramsey_Pahl
    @Ramsey_Pahl 6 месяцев назад +324

    The three most iconic muscle cars facing up against each other

    • @SlvrWlf88
      @SlvrWlf88 6 месяцев назад +6

      Sadly no gto to finish off

    • @stitch438
      @stitch438 6 месяцев назад +11

      A challenger is an iconic muscle car??? 🤣 Iconic cars don't disappear for 25 years, they last.

    • @fusionsportdaily1650
      @fusionsportdaily1650 6 месяцев назад +11

      Will always be legendary. Even if you only like one of the three ponies. Still gotta respect the legend of the three.

    • @arthurwright255
      @arthurwright255 6 месяцев назад

      Put the new EV Charger up next to them and watch them all get smoked 😆

    • @abelw71
      @abelw71 6 месяцев назад +13

      Who cares about a appliance ! Evs suck !

  • @SYC1969
    @SYC1969 6 месяцев назад +787

    The LT1 is a remarkable value. It's amazing what it can do at just over half the price of the dark horse.

    • @Tm0n3y762
      @Tm0n3y762 6 месяцев назад

      Weighs a shit ton less also

    • @lealandyoung
      @lealandyoung 6 месяцев назад +68

      Yeah, the marketing guys at Ford were smoking some good stuff that day. If the Dark Horse Premium was 80k US all in (Handling Pack, Recaros, CF Wheels, M6 trans and Painted stripes) it would be a pretty good deal, but that car is 91k and at the bottom end if the regular Dark Horse with Handling Pack was 55k out the door it would be a good deal as well. The comparable car from GM (2SS w/ 1LE package) is 56k which is about where the DH-P should be maybe 59k (and adding the CF wheels >handling pack required

    • @kenwolf2431
      @kenwolf2431 6 месяцев назад +26

      Yeah what were they thinking its faster on the track than a ZL1 1LE chevy's top Camaro with all the track stuff and sticky tires. The non handling pack Dark Horse is the faster straight line car it does not have the areo big wing to slow it down. Just wait to the track version of the GT500 comes out it will be game over. Since the old GT500 with the carbon fibre track pack smokes any Camaro on track or in the straight line per Motor Trend.

    • @cantbsdave
      @cantbsdave 6 месяцев назад +12

      Not a Camaro fan overall but I agree.

    • @SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman
      @SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@lealandyoung had to be meth as good habberdash doesnt make you want to build & drive a mustang

  • @Ccm10000
    @Ccm10000 6 месяцев назад +4

    @throttlehouse
    guys you need to test a GT350R with fresh cup 2’s around your track

  • @Kev-01973
    @Kev-01973 Месяц назад

    Love you guys! You helping me make a decision 💪🏾

  • @grimrobinson5269
    @grimrobinson5269 6 месяцев назад +156

    I love James' comments on how he's a dad, can't do this anymore. Then immediately saying let's do it again!😂

    • @iqgamer5085
      @iqgamer5085 6 месяцев назад +3

      Noone noticed this but a few! It was the best

  • @lance_auto
    @lance_auto 6 месяцев назад +112

    throttle house! y’all never fail to delivery no matter what car and whenever. thanks for some great content.

  • @BOOSTEDDUDE
    @BOOSTEDDUDE 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great review of these muscle cars! Impressive time in the Dark Horse. The Dodge name jokes were hilariously!

  • @efs83dws
    @efs83dws 4 месяца назад

    Throttle House is in a class by itself. Good job.

  • @hey_myk
    @hey_myk 6 месяцев назад +113

    "the dark horse should not be underestimated" is the best wrapup line I've ever heard

    • @ClickbaitMotorsports
      @ClickbaitMotorsports 6 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly, it should be taken at face value. The only option left.

    • @clancas01
      @clancas01 6 месяцев назад +5

      the price is all wrong. You can get a much better car for 61k

    • @alexvranesich6774
      @alexvranesich6774 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@clancas01Toyota Camry hybrid

    • @clancas01
      @clancas01 6 месяцев назад

      @@alexvranesich6774 Exactly!

    • @JohnDoe-xl1ig
      @JohnDoe-xl1ig 6 месяцев назад

      Too bad dealerships have to marked up so insanely I won't even consider buying one.

  • @glenralph
    @glenralph 6 месяцев назад +21

    21:18 "The Dark Horse should not be underestimated." Very clever fellas. I love it. Well done.

  • @rodwinmalinga
    @rodwinmalinga 6 месяцев назад +2

    Those Drone Shots Tho' 🔥!

  • @user-nv4xz2hy3r
    @user-nv4xz2hy3r 6 месяцев назад

    Alex kowaliuk here love you guys, love the dark horse even more. Cheers

  • @grimsbychrysler
    @grimsbychrysler 6 месяцев назад +253

    So glad to see you boys enjoyed the Camaro 🚗💨
    Come see us again some time!

    • @andrewkennedy9704
      @andrewkennedy9704 6 месяцев назад +30

      Thank you for loaning them the camaro.

    • @Inferno45
      @Inferno45 6 месяцев назад +5

      Can you loan me my dream car plz? 😂

    • @monophobia1885
      @monophobia1885 6 месяцев назад +1

      Are those flappy paddle shifters on the camero?

    • @jamesengelsman9369
      @jamesengelsman9369 6 месяцев назад

      The paddles on a manual camaro trigger rev match on and off only @@monophobia1885

    • @andrewkennedy9704
      @andrewkennedy9704 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@monophobia1885 yes. On manual ones they are used to turn off and on the rev match.

  • @DPCcars
    @DPCcars 6 месяцев назад +243

    Watching these three titans of muscle go head-to-head is like witnessing the end of an era. The LT1 keeps up with the Dark Horse, and you save $20K! 💸 It's bittersweet knowing this might be their last showdown as new cars. Anyone else wish we could've seen the Mach1 tackle the track with the Dark Horse's wheel setup? Major kudos for this nostalgic ride, guys! 👏🚗💨 #EndOfAnEra

    • @wolfscreek6106
      @wolfscreek6106 6 месяцев назад +18

      yea tthe fact Chevy and Dodge are bowing out is depressing. Atlest Ford took the Porsche stance and chose not to succumb too electrification entirely.

    • @TIMOTHYKni
      @TIMOTHYKni 6 месяцев назад +4

      They won't do it because i think the mach1 will smash it

    • @tcd42019
      @tcd42019 6 месяцев назад +4

      Put those same tires on any camaro even the base ss bet it smokes a dark horse this new mustang gen of cars is 💩 for how much they cost

    • @TIMOTHYKni
      @TIMOTHYKni 6 месяцев назад

      @@tcd42019 will definitely give you the cost factor, but don't kid yourself. Randy Pobst ran the Mach 1 and the SS 1LE on the same tire and the Mach 1 smoked it

    • @TIMOTHYKni
      @TIMOTHYKni 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@tcd42019 and i was referring to the Mach 1 smoking the Dark horse

  • @BarbacoaAppliances818
    @BarbacoaAppliances818 6 месяцев назад +5

    At 4:23 the look on his face is priceless
    That is a reaction of a comeback and getting smoked in a dark horse by the lt1 lol

    • @josephearley605
      @josephearley605 3 месяца назад

      Not sure I see your point. The Camaro lost. Also I think it was a look of determination

    • @BarbacoaAppliances818
      @BarbacoaAppliances818 3 месяца назад

      @@josephearley605 lol camaro never loses

    • @BarbacoaAppliances818
      @BarbacoaAppliances818 3 месяца назад

      @@josephearley605 look at the price difference, who’s the real winner

    • @josephearley605
      @josephearley605 3 месяца назад

      ​​@@BarbacoaAppliances818depending on where you buy it the dark horse is between a few thousand to $15,000 cheeper at least in the US

    • @josephearley605
      @josephearley605 2 месяца назад

      ​@@BarbacoaAppliances818 depending on where you buy it the dark horse is between a few too around $15,000 cheeper at least in America

  • @fd797
    @fd797 6 месяцев назад

    The banter is good. I wouldn't have minded to hear the other cars around the track though. One last time.

  • @sarifarsitv4974
    @sarifarsitv4974 6 месяцев назад +50

    By far the best motor channel on RUclips.. Best 2 hosts iv ever seen.. The whole vibes between them is insane 👌

    • @mrael6304
      @mrael6304 6 месяцев назад +2

      You are correct sir.

  • @FLBoyCanScrap
    @FLBoyCanScrap 6 месяцев назад +291

    The Dark Horse being faster around the track than a ZL1 1LE is genuinely astonishing.
    Wish we got an unmoddified Mach 1 time but it is what it is.

    • @xiborgh
      @xiborgh 6 месяцев назад +2

      Is it?

    • @FLBoyCanScrap
      @FLBoyCanScrap 6 месяцев назад +39

      @@xiborgh Yes bc ZL1 1LE's multimatic suspension and 150 more hp.

    • @joshualewis393
      @joshualewis393 6 месяцев назад +67

      This track is suited for a car like this Dark Horse. Its a small track with hardly any real straights. Put the Dark Horse on a real track like VIR where Car and Driver does the Lightning Lap, the ZL1 and the ZL1 1LE will still outpace the Dark Horse.
      Still great to see how well the Dark Horse does but it's always more apples to apples "comparison" if all vehicles have the exact same tires. I need to lookup these tires the Dark Horse has and see how they compare to the SC3/SC3r and Sport Cup 2.

    • @xiborgh
      @xiborgh 6 месяцев назад

      @@FLBoyCanScrap I didn’t see the full video. So impressive

    • @xiborgh
      @xiborgh 6 месяцев назад +11

      @@joshualewis393 boost the dark horse then. The gt500 is faster than the 1le

  • @husnainkhan5197
    @husnainkhan5197 6 месяцев назад

    Happy to see both of you chemps

  • @Aram0978
    @Aram0978 5 месяцев назад

    Loving the drone takes guys

  • @josephjenness6956
    @josephjenness6956 6 месяцев назад +3

    @ThrottleHouse there’s nothing better than coming home from a long day of work and seeing a new video from throttle house uploaded. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. You guys are amazing!

  • @Lucas-ie2ti
    @Lucas-ie2ti 6 месяцев назад +77

    To be faster then a M2CS for almost $100k and right under a M5CS which is well over $100k at $61k+ is seriously impressive. I'm not a huge fan of American cars but the dark horse is really nice!

    • @norwegianblue2017
      @norwegianblue2017 6 месяцев назад +19

      The Dodge Viper ACR lap time still blows me away. 2.5s faster than the M5 CS. Even faster than a Porsche 911 GT3 w/ CUP2 tires.

    • @Lucas-ie2ti
      @Lucas-ie2ti 6 месяцев назад +12

      @@norwegianblue2017 oh yeah! That thing breaks the laws of physics. It's absurd. But it's also quite pricey haha. For $61k the dark horse is a serious "bang for buck"... I wonder how much better it can be if you do some light mods and more weight reduction

    • @maximborodyuk3773
      @maximborodyuk3773 6 месяцев назад +7

      DH in the video would cost you 75k+ though. HP is pricey.

    • @koldpizza
      @koldpizza 6 месяцев назад

      i got a base model DH six speed with HP and recaros for 67.5k@@maximborodyuk3773

    • @Tattle-by-Tale
      @Tattle-by-Tale 6 месяцев назад

      @@maximborodyuk3773 And it's still a bargain compared to the other vehicles it performs against.

  • @marcocatano554
    @marcocatano554 3 месяца назад

    Superb! Loved this one

  • @aramisperez5256
    @aramisperez5256 2 месяца назад +1

    You guys have the coolest job!! If u wanna even call it that

  • @Ravaniscool
    @Ravaniscool 6 месяцев назад +8

    The charisma of this channel is amazing! Definitely one of the very best on RUclips! Thank you for all your efforts, it is greatly appreciated!

  • @TheJosesrt4
    @TheJosesrt4 6 месяцев назад +49

    Love the Dark horse! Sad to see the other two gone once again. Hopefully they will make a comeback once again in the future. 🤙🏽

    • @mikeyates1785
      @mikeyates1785 6 месяцев назад +1

      If they don’t go Hybrids yiu can kiss the sports car industry goodbye as we know it

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 6 месяцев назад

      Only electric, fascist politics force western car manufacturers to only sell cars nobody wants and basically selfdestruct while China produces more pollution and co2 than the rest of the world combined and they are laughing about us stupid westerners they will soon enslave..
      It’s absolutely disgusting!
      Inform yourself about China, it’s the most fascist country on this planet and Xi already killed more innocent people in his genocide against the Uighur than Hitler did!
      Only Mao killed more people and oh he also was a fascist Chinese..

    • @cormaro1376
      @cormaro1376 6 месяцев назад +1

      In ev version and v6 twin version yes

  • @rxibot
    @rxibot 6 месяцев назад +11

    Let's take a moment to appreciate the fact that James just perfectly launched a Mustang! Go James!

  • @kevintaylor1928
    @kevintaylor1928 6 месяцев назад

    You guys crack me up every time!😂

  • @jacobrev6567
    @jacobrev6567 6 месяцев назад +114

    The Dark Horse Looks sick actually

    • @willsfrantz
      @willsfrantz 6 месяцев назад +5

      it does look the best...especially in that roll up shot

    • @arthurwright255
      @arthurwright255 6 месяцев назад +3

      Mustang is the coolest, Challenger looks the meanest, and the Camaro is dorky looking.

    • @TiTee
      @TiTee 6 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@arthurwright255its the cheapest and it looks cool. Also it's faster than the "meaner" challenger.

    • @Stevie4171
      @Stevie4171 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@arthurwright255lt1 looks worse than the ss.

    • @Bhunky_
      @Bhunky_ 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Stevie4171true, cant help but look any time i see an SS. Something about it makes it way more imposing. Idk what it is specifically because im not too familiar with what the SS package gives you. But they’re definitely sick

  • @rayzorjay7331
    @rayzorjay7331 6 месяцев назад +12

    Ouch... as soon as I saw the stock 245's on the LT1 I knew it was going to not be great for the Camaro, lol. We have 1LE replica wheels on the way for my wife's LT1. It'll be 305 rear 285 front.

  • @moyacosta6223
    @moyacosta6223 6 месяцев назад +5

    I'm always rooting for gm but something about seeing these three together just makes me smile

  • @Killer91109
    @Killer91109 6 месяцев назад

    Every time James starts singing Dark Horse it absolutely sends me 😂😂😂

  • @keirinmaster
    @keirinmaster 6 месяцев назад +12

    You guys are "gold." So much fun to watch, and listen, to you guys. Thanks for making this awesome content and taking some of the "boring" out of my life.

  • @andrewwelsh3926
    @andrewwelsh3926 6 месяцев назад +10

    The Camaro being the 2nd fastest while being the cheapest makes it most bang for buck it seems.
    Great video guys! Love the channel!

    • @AGhostRiderR
      @AGhostRiderR 6 месяцев назад +1

      And being based on last gen car from 2016 without cup2 r type tires

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 6 месяцев назад +3

      Too bad GM is killing it (again)

    • @MaddNomad1015
      @MaddNomad1015 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@angelgjr1999if it’s name isn’t “Corvette” they don’t care

  • @jamariusberry4472
    @jamariusberry4472 6 месяцев назад

    CONGRATS CARSON!!

  • @marcusturner5291
    @marcusturner5291 6 месяцев назад

    Nice video keep up the good work my brothers

  • @Benjii002
    @Benjii002 6 месяцев назад +35

    We need more Thomas and James, the chemistry is the closest thing to original top gear levels of entertainment

    • @nicholassmith7048
      @nicholassmith7048 6 месяцев назад +2

      Well they do have another channel called Extra Throttle House for those looking for more.

    • @Darion350
      @Darion350 6 месяцев назад +1

      That's what disappointed me with newer Top Gear and The Grand Tour. For an unscripted show, it sure felt scripted. This still feels as though they're flying by the seat of their pants.

  • @awesomeingsauce
    @awesomeingsauce 6 месяцев назад +23

    I’d like to see a GT350 vs Dark Horse comparison. Should be good!

  • @bcvrt40
    @bcvrt40 5 месяцев назад +1

    Im a camaro guy and even though the camaro didnt win this video is awesome! Love the 3 way manual/V8/rumble sound/RWD/trio true muscle car battle 👏🏽👏🏽 im going to miss this…makes me want to cry that we going to be in all electric bs 😭😭😭

  • @JoshuaBardwell
    @JoshuaBardwell 6 месяцев назад

    I would love to see a compete lap chased by the drone. Kudos to the pilot those chase clips were excellent.

  • @Orangefurygt350
    @Orangefurygt350 6 месяцев назад +48

    Best Dark Horse video and comparison I’ve seen yet. I’d love to see how the dark horse stack up against a GT350 and a GT350R

    • @eriklars9
      @eriklars9 6 месяцев назад +6

      I would like to see this as well along with the Mach 1. The gt350r is something special.

    • @Nah5534
      @Nah5534 6 месяцев назад +3

      Faster around a track more than likely, the mach 1 was quicker than the gt350

    • @FredStark-rl3nu
      @FredStark-rl3nu 6 месяцев назад +4

      It would be an amazing video to compare 350R with track alignment with mach1 and Dark horse set up the same with fresh tires.

    • @eriklars9
      @eriklars9 6 месяцев назад +1

      I am curious to see which one is faster around a track, although the differences in tires between all of them presents challenges. I believe the Mach 1 with the track pack and GT350R would be on the same cup 2's so probably evenly matched (with respect to tires.) However, I am most interested in seeing which one is most engaging. After watching the video, my choice would the Mach 1 from the comments Thomas said, that's why I am curious how it stacks against the gt350r.

    • @90blkbrd
      @90blkbrd 6 месяцев назад +2

      Hennessey raced them in a straight line. The R walked the DH.

  • @jovani6044
    @jovani6044 6 месяцев назад +15

    Can never go wrong with Throttle house when it comes to races 💪🏽🔥

  • @Eduardod1994
    @Eduardod1994 6 месяцев назад

    Omg I love how the guy in the LZ1 has such a worried face while trying to catch up..
    All three cars are such amazing muscle cars. 2:49 😅

  • @G-Rated
    @G-Rated 6 месяцев назад +5

    Lol. It’s completely insane how the Camaro’s design still looks brand new next to that brand new redesigned Ford Mustang! Timeless design for sure! 🔥 💨

    • @dallasfrost1996
      @dallasfrost1996 6 месяцев назад

      Agreed! Love the 6th gen Camaro styling overall.

  • @claytonclarke5540
    @claytonclarke5540 6 месяцев назад +4

    Loved the FPV drone shots in this video. Great pilot whoever they are. Great vid as usual gentlemen.

  • @ZLone93256
    @ZLone93256 6 месяцев назад +3

    Chevy guy here 🙋‍♂️
    I was not a fan of mustangs before but i like where ford is heading with the Mustangs GTD, dark horse. I absolutely fell in love with the looks of the new 2024 stangs. I really feel the current CEO or heads of Gm should be fired for canceling the camaro and not giving timely updates and bringing the whole quality of Gm cars down and planning to go all electric. The fact that the Ceo is a woman and wants gm to go all electric makes me go on my nerves.

  • @ericdarmawan9504
    @ericdarmawan9504 6 месяцев назад +1

    FINALLY JAMES IS NOT UNBOTTON HIS SHIRT AGAIN😍😍😍

  • @samjoiner7955
    @samjoiner7955 6 месяцев назад

    I’ve been waiting for this video, my 3 favorite cars with real transmissions

    • @chasesmith2874
      @chasesmith2874 10 дней назад

      Except the Camaro has paddle shifters.....

    • @samjoiner7955
      @samjoiner7955 10 дней назад

      @@chasesmith2874 they turn on and off the rev matching

    • @chasesmith2874
      @chasesmith2874 10 дней назад

      @@samjoiner7955 oh. I'm guessing so they can use the same wheel for every car whether an auto or manual?

  • @bolt5564
    @bolt5564 6 месяцев назад +34

    I know I'm not a young side, but it's really hard for me to imagine a world without the Mustang competing against the Camaro and Challenger.

    • @deborahwilson4684
      @deborahwilson4684 6 месяцев назад

      Do u mean FoundOnRoadDead? I smoke 'em for a snack-like I do to Corvettes. Been doing it since age 12. Didn't matter if my car wasn't as fast either! Currently driving Charger Scat Pack Widebody 392. Only bought a Dodge to make a nice profit after Dodge switches to electric cars. Already getting offers a LOT higher than what I paid for it! Thanks Dodge for the extra green coming soon!

    • @MaddNomad1015
      @MaddNomad1015 6 месяцев назад +2

      It’s happened before. Mustang just competed with foreign cars (Nissan Z) until the other 2 came back. Now we’re back to the Mustang going back to that and dipping it’s toes against other luxury performance cars in the price range.

    • @twilightmedia8575
      @twilightmedia8575 6 месяцев назад

      @@deborahwilson4684 are you all there?

    • @brucedavidson7422
      @brucedavidson7422 4 месяца назад +1

      @@deborahwilson4684I don’t think those corvettes are trying…

    • @Operation3P
      @Operation3P 3 месяца назад

      @@deborahwilson4684You are so cool

  • @jacoblee5209
    @jacoblee5209 6 месяцев назад +10

    James adds so much character to TH. Love the guy

  • @jonnygun5055
    @jonnygun5055 6 месяцев назад +51

    The challenger is the only one of these not trying to be a sports car. It is unapologetically a muscle car I feel like people often overlook that in the comparison. They are all awesome in their own right and it’s a shame to see dodge and Chevrolet’s offerings go away but those of us that have one of them won’t let them be forgotten.

    • @AK_Ray
      @AK_Ray 6 месяцев назад +12

      That's because the big fat challenger is a muscle car. The Camaro and the mustang have never been muscle cars. They are pony cars, and have always been pony cars.

    • @jonnygun5055
      @jonnygun5055 6 месяцев назад

      @@AK_Rayhow about you ray? Are you a mustang owner?

    • @AK_Ray
      @AK_Ray 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@jonnygun5055 I am not

    • @mr.duckbill9538
      @mr.duckbill9538 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@AK_Raynot anymore

    • @hunnidbandchan9383
      @hunnidbandchan9383 6 месяцев назад

      That was a rt

  • @alalal123421
    @alalal123421 6 месяцев назад

    im a father now I cant be doing this "LETS DO IT AGAIN" 😂 gotta love james

  • @petermeister7191
    @petermeister7191 6 месяцев назад +6

    All of them have great engines! Glorious V8 and I´m proud to own one of these last V8 masterpieces (ZL1 6MT). Regards from a german petrol head!

  • @jordantobins681
    @jordantobins681 6 месяцев назад +4

    Anytime a new Throttle House video comes out I always hit the like button before even watching the video. I know that it’s going to be awesome before it even starts.

  • @X_HYEM_0UT
    @X_HYEM_0UT 6 месяцев назад

    The face Thomas makes when James first braked the dark horse 😭👌🏾

  • @georgeboros263
    @georgeboros263 6 месяцев назад +1

    You should have the leaderboard posted on your site that we can click on any car and see the laps run on your track!

  • @ER-1.1
    @ER-1.1 6 месяцев назад +5

    Great episode Throttle House! you guys killed it again. Congrats to Carson as well!!

  • @ImTheSlyDevil
    @ImTheSlyDevil 6 месяцев назад +19

    Mach 1 and dark horse - what a couple of absolute machines. Thomas put in some work with those lap times.

  • @berky1976
    @berky1976 6 месяцев назад +2

    Three cars that will be forever collected around the world. Part of me is sad to see them go. But part of me is excited to see what comes next. If its nothing, well... we can always purchase an icon from the 2020's. 🙂

    • @jwp882000
      @jwp882000 6 месяцев назад

      Turbo 6 cylinders are nothing to look forward to so most muscle car fans are not excited about the death of most naturally aspirated V-8’s. I’m certainly not but to each his own.

  • @gt4rs05
    @gt4rs05 6 месяцев назад

    What light balance settings do you use on GoPro to actually see out window with the interior mounting behind the driver?

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam 6 месяцев назад +11

    Since James is having a baby his dad jokes are gonna hit different

  • @390fe451
    @390fe451 6 месяцев назад +19

    Truly sad that this is the last year these 3 exist as new cars together. Really would have liked to see the Mach1 do a lap with the Dark Horse wheel / tire combo. Great video guys!

    • @teemeaux3830
      @teemeaux3830 6 месяцев назад +6

      Ford didn’t let people test the Mach. I think it’s cuz it’s prolly faster than the dark horse

    • @unfairsanic5089
      @unfairsanic5089 6 месяцев назад

      @@teemeaux3830for the money id rather go for mach 1

    • @ZackNakazora1
      @ZackNakazora1 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@teemeaux3830I agree. Weight says it all

    • @CaseyCollier
      @CaseyCollier 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@teemeaux3830
      The Dark Horse wasn't even around when the Mach 1 originally came out, so I find what you said hard to believe. More than likely, it was just a strict corporate policy made by some uptight pencil pusher at Ford.

    • @teemeaux3830
      @teemeaux3830 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@CaseyCollier it’s called ford planning ahead. When the Mach was out they were developing the dh. Don’t be naive.

  • @TheSecondN9nja
    @TheSecondN9nja 5 месяцев назад +9

    It’s so painful being a car person without the funds to be a car person.

  • @elvismulenga1293
    @elvismulenga1293 6 месяцев назад

    The new mustang front end design for me has done it, it’s nostalgic in way and angry bull face vibe, it looks mad
    I like that design language
    Immediately I saw the photos it moved me

  • @DullerCrab
    @DullerCrab 6 месяцев назад +181

    That Camaro is running on 2016 architecture, to hold up that well is impressive. Easy to add performance gains with cheap mods & it’s a monster.

    • @michaeljosey879
      @michaeljosey879 6 месяцев назад +25

      And that dodge is realistically running on 2013-2015 tech as far as drivetrain is concerned….. I should know…. I drive a charger and have spent way too much money upgrading it cuz dodge cheaped out on their cars

    • @DaOldSchoolRapLova96
      @DaOldSchoolRapLova96 6 месяцев назад +14

      Crazy to think that both the Camaro and the Scat are from 15-16ish in terms of Tech and Chassis

    • @MaddNomad1015
      @MaddNomad1015 6 месяцев назад +15

      ⁠@@DaOldSchoolRapLova96the challenger chassis is older then that

    • @Darion350
      @Darion350 6 месяцев назад +31

      Isn't the Mustang on the same platform as the old s550 back in 2015?

    • @tamimalkawari271
      @tamimalkawari271 6 месяцев назад +10

      its a lt1 rs too not a ss

  • @jbm0866
    @jbm0866 6 месяцев назад +21

    I can't be the only one who prefers the look of the previous gen Mustang...inside and out. It just looks like the natural evolution of the original mustang while the new one has hints of GM about it in some ways. In any case, it's very sad cars like this are going away...and it's not for the reasons we're being spoonfed😤

    • @jbruce8633
      @jbruce8633 6 месяцев назад +1

      No kidding! At first glance it looks like the Camaro front end, then from the side as well!

    • @jbm0866
      @jbm0866 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@jbruce8633 I know Ford had to make it different enough to seem like an all new generation, but to my eyes the little tweaks they made during the lifespan of the last gen got the stang looking near perfect. I think they should have stayed the course and simply made further minor tweaks instead of going for an all new look. It really stood out to me when they had both gens parked next to each other. To me the current Mustang looks like Ford hired a bunch of GM stylists...and maybe they did since GM is getting out of the car business altogether while Ford is still hanging on with at least one? Idk man...just wish the new gen looked better.

  • @boudewynwagener7653
    @boudewynwagener7653 4 месяца назад

    Three of the best.✊🏻✊🏻

  • @Joshuapsalm
    @Joshuapsalm 6 месяцев назад +1

    The Camaro pulling on the roll race that’s a win in my book

  • @powerboatguy2308
    @powerboatguy2308 6 месяцев назад +20

    Essentially a driver's race with the manuals, which makes them so awesome.

  • @majesticgreek3646
    @majesticgreek3646 6 месяцев назад +41

    God this channel deserves so much more recognition. Literally new age top gear man.

    • @URsooomad8613
      @URsooomad8613 6 месяцев назад +3

      What an absolute 🤡 thing to say
      Their lap times are garbage and don't even come relatively close to being accurate. Get a real driver (like the REAL Top Gear did) or don't do lap times at all😂

    • @majesticgreek3646
      @majesticgreek3646 6 месяцев назад

      @@URsooomad8613 ok loser lmao

  • @AmericanCarFan1234
    @AmericanCarFan1234 5 месяцев назад

    Beautiful race❤

  • @Tusuperbis
    @Tusuperbis 6 месяцев назад +2

    I like all the cars tested. Been watching reviews on the new mustangs and i like them. The price point of each of the mustang models is extravagant and doesnt represent much value to the consumer. Ill keep my 2020 1SS 1LE Camaro for the foreseeable future!

  • @lizparks1662
    @lizparks1662 6 месяцев назад +4

    Would love to see you guys do a track test of an AMG car, maybe the GT🙏🏾 Love your videos and I'm so happy to see how far you guys have come, keep up the good work!!

  • @joeydelgado6119
    @joeydelgado6119 6 месяцев назад +17

    Drag race and roll race results as expected, but the most impressive to me was how close the 400-700 lb heavier Challenger was not that far behind. Hell, the aerial overview shows how much larger it is.

    • @CarandRacer
      @CarandRacer 6 месяцев назад +2

      I would like to personally thank-you for that comment...

  • @jimdrivas4949
    @jimdrivas4949 6 месяцев назад +5

    The GT and the Dark Horse use different 6-speed transmissions. The GT uses the Getrag MT-82 and the Dark Horse uses the Tremec TR-3160. Hence the shifting differences in the two cars.

  • @retrobuttercup
    @retrobuttercup 6 месяцев назад

    Much appreciated comparison! I say this to all the homies but stay safe when working in cars everyone

  • @4g5y
    @4g5y 6 месяцев назад +5

    I was not sure about the new Mustang design over the old one, but the Dark Horse looks so so good! wow 😍

  • @ryanandrews559
    @ryanandrews559 6 месяцев назад +12

    The "Ketty Perry mood" part got me.
    "I was waiting for the part where James goes, "she's a beast, I call her mustang."
    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @mayadenton9329
    @mayadenton9329 6 месяцев назад +1

    Love the video! Quick question, why is there a goat in the back of the dark horse? 😂

  • @Stexen
    @Stexen 6 месяцев назад +1

    "you got 14 more horsepower on tap there" 😂