Some Democrats have expressed support for voter IDs. Here’s why it’s more nuanced.
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The vast majority of the country agrees that you should have an ID to vote.
which makes the Hr1 bill flawed
That doesn't mean voter ID is good or bad. Sounds like an ad populum.
@@ebalicious1775 it means the majority of the people want a voter id requirement
@@ebalicious1775 democracy is ad populum
@@biggibbs4678 mhm good job
Did you know, Texas actually made it easier to vote by extending hours, creating more polling places, and many other ways which actually make it easier to vote than most Democrat states. You just need to prove you're a US citizen.
Liberals that's racist lmao.... what a huge joke all around the world they want your ID even access the internet.
It's funny Biden say jim crow he pass bills that target black community hard.
@@cynthiagonzalez537 Then your stupid because that's why they arrested 3 people and filmed saying criminal things. There been fraud and paying people to vote a different way. I'm from Texas and your making Mexicans look bad....
@@cynthiagonzalez537 all you gave was your opinion... And please keep your discriminatory remarks to yourself.
@@cynthiagonzalez537 I’m taking this as you being sarcastic in a funny way. Am I right or are all these people saying things because you meant it another way? Just curious....
@@DA-wx9oz Incorrect. They required ALL areas to have the number of polling locations be based on the number of registered voters for those areas. So, the reason some places lost polling locations was that they had TOO MANY compared to other areas with more registered voters.
So “nuanced” has become the new word for “not the official position of the party”
It means “The department of truth (media) dislike this view”
🗳According to the new poll, which was published Wednesday, an overwhelming majority of voters-74 percent-support voter ID requirements. Importantly, minority voters, the ones Democrats claim are most affected by the laws, are strongly supportive.
Demorats - "Voter ID is racist!"
Also Demorats - "Vaccine cards please!"
If they can't prove who they are, they shouldn't vote.
Try voting for you neighbor and you'll quickly realize that the government knows exactly who's voting
@@ebalicious1775the democrats dont want voter id because if id was reqruired they cant cheat
It’s only common sense to have voter ID. The single most important thing to uphold integrity is secure elections. If someone in the United States can’t get an ID they have no business voting.
If they cannot get an ID to ID themselves than they are not legal or choose not to get identification. In my state democrats wanted covid ID but not voter ID and against it smh. Many countries all over world you have to have ID to vote even some third world ones have and require ID to vote now.
voter ID is NOT the crux of the problem > In several states ...State legislatures are giving themselves the ability to " nullify " the results of an election .In several states , such as Ga. and Az. , where state election officials pushed back on charges of fraud .....the new laws give election oversight to the legislatures themselves ..Look , some common sense . there are over 400 bills proposed in 45 states ..do you really think they are all about voter ID ??? hell no ...
@@Courtney-pe2iw CoVID ID? Lmfao y'all are not even trying anymore.
I have a guess that a lot of people don't want to get IDs because they probably have warrants and are not wanting to get arrested as soon as they show up to the DMV to get an ID
@RUclipsHATES freeSPEECH He is correct; READ THE BILLS---Georgia and Texas proposed bills DO empower the state legislature or election board to nullify results THEY deem 'invalid' with NO EVIDENCE.
Just give it up already, Americans want honest and fair elections after the 2020 mess.
@@DA-wx9oz Whatever. You really should read Aesop's Fables "The boy Who Cried Wolf"
@@DA-wx9oz Nice of you to show everyone just how insane you are.
2020 was free and fair. The country rejected Trump. Move on.
@@markportnoy6290 The second farcical, unconstitutional, impeachment was an admission by democrats that they stole the 2020 election!
@@jimmalachowsky4052 Yup we stole it. COMMUNISM FOR ALL! :)
Crazy how I don't know a single person here in Indiana who was unable to vote...
Perhaps you should step outside of your white, privileged, circle?
Nobody in other countries had their votes counted
@@krzytofr34 pretty big assumption there. Maybe you shouldn't assume people of color are too poor or unable to get an ID. It's really racist.
@@krzytofr34 wow racist. People of color are just as able to do things for themselves as white people. You must be upper middle class bored Caucasian. Am I right? Yep.
@@krzytofr34 why are you racist?
If you want to vote,get an ID.
Most people probably already have one.
Why should we put a restriction to accessing your most important constitutional right.
@@ebalicious1775 Tell that to big tech about first amendment.
Tell that to Democrat cities about the 2nd amendment.
@@user-ue8vz3km9c I don't see the point in pivoting to other entities. We're talking about this one thing correct?
@@ebalicious1775 The Democrats that fled my home state needed an ID to board plane,get into the white house.
@@user-ue8vz3km9c I think that's a false equivalency because a. flying on a plane is not a guaranteed constitutional right and b. we know that the security of planes is very important because that sometimes bad people hijack them and do bad things with them 😂
still not sure why it's a bad thing to verify who is voting? can someone explain it plz?
Dead people don't have valid IDs, obviously. Do you hate dead people and want to oppress them?
@@toomanymarys7355 well, i don't want the dead to rise up if that's what you mean.
The issue is that in the past when you had strict voter ID laws they would then make it extremely difficult to get the ID. Either by making it expensive. Making it a long drawn out process. Or by making it difficult by only having offices to get the ID in certain neighborhoods while other neighborhoods have to drive and take time off work to get an ID. The ID isn't the problem. A great example is in conservative states where they are trying to ban abortion. They remove almost all the clinics so now if you need one you have to take longer time off work and drive to the nearest one which could be 50 miles or more away. An ID should be needed. But the ability to get that ID should be easy and efficient. Also voting day should be a federal holiday so that nobody has to worry about taking off work to go vote.
@@RandomMichiganGuy Everyone has ID.
Democrats want illegals and dead people to vote.
If ID and a thorough background check are required to exercise our constitutional right to bear arms, then it should be required in order to vote.
I don't think I agree with this logic. Don't you think you could then apply that to every other guaranteed constitutional right? I feel like gun rights are much to different to draw a comparison.
@@ebalicious1775 Actually no I don't Gun rights are far less important than the elections since elections are the very foundation of our republic.
@@lucyfyrearchoftwilight1760 Well hey, we both agree on something. But I would say that our elections are very secure without voter ID
@@ebalicious1775 If that were in any way true, then you wouldn't need ID to do just about anything in modern society.
If that were true, then why do I need an ID to buy a gun? To buy alcohol? To buy cigarettes? To... do anything where your identity matters.
@@ebalicious1775 Elections at secure without voter ID? The sheer idiocy in that statement boggles the mind. It should be, show a valid ID or you don't vote, period. I don't know anyone that doesn't have an ID.
My friend is a senior citizen and a quadriplegic, yet he obtained an ID.
If it’s important to you you’ll make it happen.
No excuses.
It doesn't matter how big or small the bar is. It's the fact that you want to restrict the most important constitutional right that citizens can take part in. You must have a good reason to restrict it.
@@ebalicious1775 stupid democrat you just mad that mexican imigrants cant vote on next election you lore i
No, it's not "nuanced". A State ID and/or a SSN is required to do anything that involves verifying your name, age, residency, and citizenship. Except getting a job and voting. It's pretty obvious who benefits the most from those being the only two things that don't legally require ID/SSN across the country.
I've always needed ID to get a job.
@@rustyshackleford5830 had you inquired about If you didnt have one? You probably readily presented one, how would you know what happened if you didnt have one?
@@chavvy9074 well considering I had one, I dont see why it would occur to me to inquire about not having one. All the places I've worked were always required by law to make sure that potential employees are citizens, or can legally work in the United states. So I can only assume not having some form of ID would be a no go.
You need an id to get a job. You can’t work on the books without one. For tax purposes they need a state id and social security card or birth certificate, and a copy is sent to the IRS along with your W4 form.
@@rustyshackleford5830 right, you're only assuming based on your experience. You said I've always needed ID to get a job but you never have actually tested if that's true, is what I'm saying.
You mean I can’t buy a beer without showing a photo I’d? OMG! The humanity!
Since when is buying beer the foundation of our democracy?
I used to buy beer with a stolen/fake ID when I was a kid. Worked like a charm every time. Not a very secure security measure imho.
@Philly Mathis I own many many guns. I never used an ID to buy any of them. Private sales are still legal thank god. Who goes to stores to have their name associated with their guns, dumb?
Now if you don't mind I have a boat to load these into.
@@Bauks I'm glad you commented this because you're absolutely correct. Voter ID will not stop all voter fraud. It may stop some though.
@@ebalicious1775 Yeah, I havent been in the fake ID market for a while and went off on a binge watching session on them last week.
There are some pretty 'sophisticated' fake ID out there these days. You can make the barcode on them to say whatever you want, you can make the magnetic strip say whatever you want. You can change those values to suit your needs. I watched an interview with police where they ran a sophisticated fake ID through a cop cars computer and everything checked out. They had no way to tell it was fake. TSA was in the same boat.
Voting is a fine line between anonymity and security. You can't have both at 100% at the same time they're mutually exclusive. So it's always going to be a balancing act.
Having an ID to vote is essentially important so people can trust the voting process.
I disagree. We should be able to trust the voting process current because no evidence of widespread voter fraud has ever been demonstrated. If voter fraud was a big deal, then I would be in support of it. The issue is that there is no concrete evidence that this widespread fraud exists
@@ebalicious1775 'Should be able to trust the voting process'. Yes. However, trust doesn't come from lack of contrary evidence, it comes from a high degree of transparency and robust processes to fully investigate claims of fraud. You must earn people's trust not force it upon them.
@@ebalicious1775 By that same logic, we shouldn't require ID for other things because we should just trust.
Also, let's say that you're right and there is really no risk to the system present and future. If you want to successfully run a country filled with people of many different political views, wouldn't you be most successful getting more people to work together if you agreed to prove to them that they can trust the system by requiring ID? If the Democrats embraced some basic and simple bipartisan ways to ensure that election fraud is impossible, many people on the right would be more willing to come to the table. To deny taking these basic steps makes the Democrats look like they actually have something to hide or that they benefit from voting fraud. You're basically sowing the seeds for the next Trump like figure.
@@alexjones7845 That first sentence doesn't even make sense. You can't compare voting rights to an election, they're completely different things.
And I don't really care about working with Republicans regarding voting rights. But let's say that I had no other choice, voting restrictions would be passed. I would do everything in my power to ensure that the forms of ID required to vote are very broad. And I would make sure that early voting is easy and I would include drive in voting.
You may think that Democrats looks weak, but tbh that's not surprising considering you're from the right. What you see as weakness, I see as a defense of our constitutional right. And it happens that more people are on the left, so more people seem to see it the way I do.
@@ebalicious1775 Can't compare voting rights to an election? I don't understand your point. If your saying that voter ID and camera recordings of the people counting the votes is discrimination then I really don't know what to tell you. There's nothing wrong with making sure that ID to vote is easy to obtain and broad.
No, I don't think it makes the Democrats look weak. It makes it look like they are fighting against simple voting protections because they are benefiting from the current system. Vote harvesting is what I believe to be the biggest threat to voting. Democrats having been pushing to allow unlimited possession of ballots by non-government people. This allows third parties that have a stake in the election to have unsupervised access to ballots and to have the ability to manipulate elections through coercion, intimidation, theft and forgery. Does limiting vote harvesting to members of the voter's family, people that they live with, and sometimes neighbors really impact the voter? I can't see how because they literally can just put it in their mailbox without even needing a stamp. How many times are old people taken advantage of by door to door scammers?
No, I don't think this makes Democrats look weak. More the opposite. Democrats had become frustrated from not getting to implement many of the programs they wanted over the last few decades and seem to have adopted a win at all costs no matter the consequences approach, which is alienating half the country and they may face a big backlash in the midterms. And your argument that "more people are on the left, so more people seem to see it the way I do". I've not seen a national poll that found any less than 70% of Americans supporting the idea of voter ID, sometimes as high as 88%. Are you referring to something else?
BTW, I am on the left and I have been my entire life until the democrats become so authoritarian.
WTF do you mean “Here’s why”? Because we want LEGITIMATE ELECTIONS.
My daughter is 7 and she has an ID. Passport and school ID. It's also law that you need an ID as an adult. Why is this so hard
It doesn't matter if it's "hard" or not. You have to have a good reason to put a restriction on your most important constitutional right.
A cop stopping me and asking for ID isn't that big of a deal, but it infringes on a very important right. The right for people to be secure against unreasonable searches.
@@ebalicious1775 find me one person who votes who dosen't own an ID
@@ebalicious1775 also its law to have an ID as a adult if you can't manage to get one maybe you shouldn't be voting
@@vanbrown8409 Can you find me a law that says you must have an ID as an adult? I don't know if I've ever heard of that
@@vanbrown8409 I don't care who does have an ID. You're putting a unecessary restriction on people's right to vote
They don’t want it because they won’t be able to cheat it. It’s pretty much common sense
If ID’s ensure the results, let it be so.
But they don't. Voter ID doesn't guarantee that all counts of voter fraud will be prevented. And voter fraud hardly occurs as it is
@@ebalicious1775it still helps lessen fraud. Just because some people sneak into night clubs with fake ids doesn’t mean that they should just stop checking ids all together.
I'm okay with voter ID laws as long as you can get IDs easily for free.
@RUclipsHATES freeSPEECH Gas isn't enumerated as a right in our constitution. And therefore is a bad analogy.
Its not hard to use ID to vote I support this
I don't like this line of logic. The idea that "it's not hard" doesn't hold up. So far example, if I were stopped by the police and asked for my ID for no reason, it's not that big of a deal, but it violates my 4th amendment right. Do you believe that the police should be able to stop me for no reason since it's not "hard."
@@ebalicious1775 then don't that's your choice I would though regardless its my amendment right you people who say stuff like this all complain of taxes so what do you think happens when you choose this way court and tax costs so think Bout it !
@@cherylsingh6985 I'm not trying to be rude but your sentences didn't make any sense to me. Could you reword all of that
@@ebalicious1775 I said that's your choice.and regardless its your amendment right to do as asked ! Plain and simple you are wasting tax payer dollars to go to court fighting this !
@@cherylsingh6985 I'm seriously doing my best to understand but I really don't know what we're talking about 😂 Can we back up? What are you referring to when you say "it's your amendment right to do as asked"
Everyone should have a picture ID to vote 🗳 With 10,000+ illegals streaming into our nation we need proof of who ppl are to vote.
People fought to have the right to vote. They should want to vote enough to do whatever it takes to do it, including getting a picture ID to be counted and protect their vote from others who have done nothing to earn the right to vote.
If an illegal immigrant has a driver's license, what prevents them from voting? I may be wrong, but if they require ID and an undocumented immigrant shows them their drivers license, what proves to the poll workers that they're illegal?
Stop making excuses for not having the proper ID to vote. The ironic thing is these 'adults' certainly know where and how to get the proper ID and paperwork when it comes to their benefit
I'm pretty sure you need to show your ID before entering the CNN station. You need to show ID to board a plane. You need to show ID while driving. You need to show ID to board a cruise ship, etc... So the democrats know it's not suppressing Americans from voting including minorities, but showing ID prevents the democrats from cheating by having illegals living here voting and also prevents some cheating democrats from going to multiple voter locations.
Because you need to prove you are a legal American citizen to vote. It's the right of Americans. Not just whoever comes across our borders. Owning guns is a right and yet people have to Register them in most countries
But you need a good reason to put a restriction on voting. Illegal immigrants have the ability to get a driver's license which is a form of voter ID. And regarding the gun thing. Background checks have proven to prevent gun violence. Voter ID tries to solve a problem that really doesn't exist
@@ebalicious1775 fake news bro. Most states require gun registration already and look at the gun violence right now. Worst its been since the early 90s. Voting is about as important as it gets. To sit there and not care if it's being conducted securely is about the most ignorant thing to do. It needs to be safe and accessible. They both can be done. Non Americans and dead people can't be allowed to vote. There needs to be one vote per person. And ballet harvesting has to stop cause it takes nothing for some biased cheating be of sh1t no time to dump loads of votes out.
@@jeffwoods6555 I think you're strawmanning my position by saying I don't care about election integrity. The problem that I have with the things that you say, is that you don't back up your claims with evidence. And I don't know who has lied to you, but if you step back and really read into what is being said, you will see that the 'big lie' is nothing but, well.. a lie.
@@jeffwoods6555 You're absolutely welcome to give example of election fraud, I actually encourage you to do so. I will simply go through what our institutions say and relay the actual information back to you.
@@ebalicious1775 even the dems say there's been election fraud. Look at Arizona Maricopa County right now. Go do the research. The dems just think that if its not 10s of thousands of votes that it's not that important. Simple fact is not one vote that's illegitimate should be allowed. You trying to say there's 0 voter fraud in this country?
im a Democrat and since both sides have been complaining about voting fraud I have no issue getting a ID if it helps ... or any other kind of proof ...besides our communities are pretty good at helping us out just in case we aint smart enough to apply for ID
are you ok with states changing electoral votes from the majority voted upon option? because THAT is the issue at hand... it's never been about the IDs.
@@purposefully.verbose why do you keep repeating the lie that isnt true ? There’s nothing in the bill that says that .
I'm a Trump supporter and I agree. We need to get rid of the electoral college and put in Voter-ID
There's no problem for anyone to get a drivers license or state ID, and be an American citizen ,thats normal requirements how can this be so blown out of proportion like it has ,...
Common man
The propaganda warfare has started
All it requires is a state i.d. or drivers license. You show me 5 people who are american citizens and dont have either. Everyone drives or cashes a paycheck. You cant even get a job without one.until then the laws are fine and not restrictive at all unless you plan on using fraud.
I'm pretty sure millions of Americans don't have government ID. Why should we restrict voting when voter fraud isn't an issue
Clyburn just said no Dem is against voter ID. ROTFL.
I was required to show identification for the ACT, when I set up a bank account, when I check out books from the library, and WHEN I BUY SHARPIES AT WALMART!!!! What is so wrong with showing an ID to vote? Tell me that it's because not everyone has one, and I'll tell those people to get one. You can get it done at the DMV, and mine cost less than 20 dollars. Not hard unless you're completely unable to function, in which case you need to get counseling, not a vote. 🤷🏼♀️
Voter ID is a bipartisan issue - everyone should WANT fair elections ... unless UNfair is the goal
it's not about the IDs... it's about electoral college disenfranchisement. are you going to be ok if a democratic majority decides to overturn your election results in their favor, in your state?
@@purposefully.verbose how is it not about ID when the entire left political party has been ranting and raving how it’s racist and that black people cant get an id ?
I live in Indiana and the state photo ID is free. A drivers license has fees but the state ID costs nothing.
Just a friendly reminder this is propaganda. Thank you for your time.
🗳According to the new poll, which was published Wednesday, an overwhelming majority of voters-74 percent-support voter ID requirements. Importantly, minority voters, the ones Democrats claim are most affected by the laws, are strongly supportive.
Oh but Cubans, don't come here, ya hear?!
Without an ID requirement any tourist from any other country could cast a vote. Imagine if a ton of Russians came and voted for Trump.
That's literally false. You need an address in order to vote in any election.
And yet look which party is trying to stop voter ID... hmmm, let’s see who really are the ones who know they’d benefit from those Russians voting.🤔
I will never believe requiring an official ID to vote is an unnecessary infringement to a person's ability to vote.
7 million American citizens don’t have any form of ID
Texas Democrat just last night stated that he was against an ID to vote.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Gotta have ID to buy cigs, liquor, weed, get a bank account, receive welfare, and get into R rated movies.
Why in the hell are we still talking about this????
Are we that stupid ???? Are YOU that stupid????
Voter ID NOW!!!!!
I used to used a stolen/fake ID to buy beer with. Worked every time. Not very secure.
@juul cat How about real from stolen? Have we crossed paths before your name and avatar seem familiar? PKA?
@juul cat I can't put the links up but I encourage you to watch 2 short videos.
One called..
"scary-real fake IDs could fool police"
by WatchTheDaily
And
"pdf417 barcode Driver's License generator software"
by aria pin
@juul cat There are many videos out there on 'sophisticated' fake ID's. They are not all McLoving style fakes.
@juul cat 'Mag Spoof' for the magnetic stip. It's what organized criminals use to make fake credit cards from 'skimmed/stolen' cards that only have the magnetic strip and not the barcode.
That sadly can be faked too.
Why do you want every election to be contested? 100% voter id in all 50 states. Mail in voting only for people that cant physically get out to vote. Same day voting. Make it a national holiday!
If we don't have photo voter ID laws. Maybe the question should be, what happens you show up at my polling center only to find out someone has used your name and voted for you?
Like cats covering up their 💩
If your signature is off by a bit your vote doesn’t count, but there’s no need to provide a voter ID?
Some sanity from dem Dems...
You don't even have to be an American citizen, just walk up and vote! Then go to the next polling station and vote again...
I got an election book the other day for Washington. It said if you want to REGISTER to vote, you need an ID. I may have misread something, but it seemed pretty straightforward.
I have a dumb question: if welfare and other benefits for the poor and or minorities requires an ID and address, why not voting?
This is such horsecrap! Everyone needs a picture ID to cash ANY check. A picture ID and SS# or GC# is required to apply for government assistance. Rep. James Clyburn is being quite a big fat liar since in the state of SC, state issued photo IDs, even allowing you to fly on a commercial airplane...are FREE!!!!!
Need a ID to almost do anything in the United States but voting just makes it too hard??? How??? I had a ID at the age of 14 to start looking for a job. They sent off 1400 dollar checks to everyone and they can't spend 20 dollars at a DMV to get an ID... SMH
Bills does not show citizenship.
If you can dial a phone, you can get an ID.
*I go clubbing, ID.*
*Liquor store, ID.*
*I drive, ID.*
*I buy a tobacco, ID.*
*I buy, a house, ID.*
*I travel, ID.*
_I vote, ID...racist._FACEPALM.*
HOLY CRAP GUYS I NEED TO PAY 10-50 DOLLARS TO VOTE!! WHY ARE THEY MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO VOTE
It doesn't matter if it's a low amount of money to you. Voting is the most important constitutional right. It should be accessible to everyone. If 50% of white people didn't have that $10-50 to pay for voter ID would you still favor of voter ID? Probably not because the ID law disproportionately affects white people.
@@ebalicious1775 except most laws allow you to use any form of id including passports driver’s license and social security, which legal citizen has at least one of those
@@apacheattackhelicopter8410 I don't know if that's true my friend. I can send you many studies that conclude that some poorer voters tend to not have the types of ID that states make mandatory to vote. And even if what your saying is true, there will also be a number of people no matter how small that will not have sufficient ID. And I don't think that it's right to put a cost on voting when there's no evidence that widespread fraud occurs.
@@apacheattackhelicopter8410 I do love your pfp though
@@ebalicious1775 well I personally disagree and I believe that voter id laws (if done right) can prevent voter fraud and still allow American citizens to vote
1:08 "I reject restrictive Voter ID *designed* to keep people out"
How is requiring photo ID keeping people out of the process. In today’s world, you can’t do literally anything without showing valid identification. If I need to show identification to exercise my second amendment right, why shouldn’t we have to show Identification for this. ???
Ask anyone off the street if ID is required to vote and most would be surprised how few states require it. Need an ID to drive, to buy almost anything expensive, to take most state licensed exams, to buy alcohol or cigarettes or weed, to gamble, to enter most buildings with a front desk/security, but not to elect the next leader of the FREE WORLD.
Nothing nuanced about it. IDs to vote and the ability to check who exactly your vote was recorded for and all the voting numbers by precinct made available within 24 hours of the polls closing. Why are elections in the "greatest" democracy in the world so muddy?
If you need an ID to buy beer to drive so you will need it to vote
Buying beer isn't a fundamental right, but okay.
@@CarpeVerpa would you say the same thing for the second amendment right to bear arms
@@mk23theman85 As long as the right applies to everyone and not just white people, I'm fine with the Second Amendment.
Even India requires voter ID. And they're saying people in US don't have IDs lol.
Poor people have id.
So how do so many get welfare,ebt, housing etc with no id ????
I'm calling bull crap and this definitely makes it seem more suspicious
I don't see the big deal of not wanting people to show I'd or such, if we support you in any way in America legal or not !!
I think it SHOULD be difficult to vote. Furthermore, I think mandatory community service should be required in order to place a vote. That way people might actually care more about who/what they're voting for and actually do their research. If I'm gonna put in 8hrs of community service, I'm probably also going to want to study up on the issues, otherwise why would I bother working for 8 hrs?
Mexico requires voter ID. Kenya requires voter ID. Mali requires voter ID. Thailand requires voter ID. Etc. Etc. Etc.
We all have ids, ss number, birth cert, marriage certificate, library card, school ids. So whats the problem.
I need a ID to work, rent or own a home, open a bank account, purchase alcohol. This whole time I’ve been oppressed?
i cant vote without an ID in my country, and i find that to be quite normal. i am trully surprised to find out that the US actually doesnt require you to have one. doesnt that open the gates to vote fraud or something?
Yes, The Left Wing Dem party want rules open to cheat and lie.
Exactly. It's common sense. Thats why I still consider Trump to still be the president and Im not even a trump supporter.
A DL is stringent??? WTF!!!!!! GET REAL!!!!!!
You need ID to drive. You need ID to drink. During COVID you needed ID to go out and eat. You need it to gain access to welfare that poor people love so much. To get a credit card, to work.
Why not to vote as well, the place where ensuring fraud does not occur is so important
What i dont get this about ID as an outsider from Europe. Dont you have drivers licence as an ID? Dont you ID yourself when you go to the doctor? Dont you ID buying alcohol or cigarrettes. Dont you ID yourself at the bank office, pharmacy and so on. What about going to another country a passport is an ID or what? I get that a very large portion of American citizens live under poverty rate. So i would like to get educated about this. Please explain.
Heres how you satisfy both sides. Make state issued identification free and make issuing agencies more accessible.
I'd be ok with that. I generally oppose voter ID but if it's accessible in the way you described, I'm on board. I would also like for social security and birth certificates to be free as well.
"Let us spin this"
Just keep focusing on the stupid ID issue because that's NOT the problem!!! The problem is that the states can just change the electors and give them to the candidate that they WANTED to win!!! That's not a democracy
every states DMV should make it free to attain a State ID to lessen the burden on anyone trying to vote or otherwise be identified. It’s common sense that everyone of legal age should always have a way to identify themselves. If they want to hide from the government in some way and not identify themselves then why should they be able to have a hand in changing an outcome by voting. Once you have a valid ID you can then apply to have legitimate mail-in ballots sent to your address… Makes sense to make a small effort i think.
What they should be talking about is how to keep non citizens from voting.
Voter ID with photo should be mandatory.
Well……No ID in Japan……But it’s not USA.
Anyway please tell me what will occur when ID required.And how will it occur. I’m foreigners so I want to learn more.
Voter ID NOW!
"Here's a free ID"
Democrats- "That's racist"
Calling it controversial is ridiculous. Vast majority of Americans have no issue with voter ID.
There’s nothing wrong to show an id to vote.
Voting should be harder
Just show your ID and get over it if not I'm going to quit using my ID when I'm driving a car
If you forget or lose your ID while driving you can still be looked up on the spot. With just a name, address, and birthdate usually. That piece of plastic don't drive my car.
Almost impossible to vote? Let's be real here. Virtually everyone has some form of identification. If you don't then odds are you are either hiding for a reason or here illegally. So... Why are we fighting over people who shouldn't be voting? Hmm.
Forget mail. I have been getting 4 to 5 different ppl mail. Like they live here. For years. I tried to report and all, but no help
"There's no proof blah blah". How about completely preventing the need of proof to begin with by simply requiring ID to vote.
To say people are to dumb to get a license id you use to buy alcohol tobacco drive a car is racist as hell. Give black people more credit than saying this.
PERHAPS OFFER A COCKTAIL PRIOR TO VOTING MUST PROVIDE ID FOR BOTH 😂
Ahh so I’m not a complete racist like I was told after all..
Hi I am from turkey, why is getting an ID not free? And why can't democrats push in that direction? Cause it really looks like a policy they can find common ground?
disagree with any form of license in America because of a 4th amendment regardless if it's a driver's license gun license or voting license having the government have information about the citizens simply because they're saying we'll be safer with these type of systems in place is it's not a Constitutional reason for it We must value our freedom Is better to live free for a minute than to Live as a slave
I am an American, not a Trumplican.
Too late , your days are numbered .
Nothing is wrong with voter ID and security
As long as there is no charge to receive the photo ID, I have absolutely no issues with that. Drivers licenses shouldn't count considering you have to pay for it.
Most of the poor in this country have huge, flat screen TV's, and wear $200 sneakers. The cost of obtaining a photo ID is hardly prohibitive! And in many states, if you can't afford the ID, the state will issue an ID for free.
YES CAUSE IM TO DUMB TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET A I.D. . YOU NEED A I.D. TO GET ANYTHING NOW DAYS . SO YOU WANT TO DO AWAY WITH I.D.S
AND PEOPLE CAN JUST VOTE AS MUCH AS THE WANT
They should.
How do you not have a id ????
Because classism?
Every time I think hear the name Joe Mansion
I think of Charles Mansion! Don’t know why! Just the last name I guess!
I'm guessing the only reason to not have an id is to cheat. There someone said it.
I have always showed my ID to vote.. it should be any form of identification of one’s self to be able to vote