Voter ID Laws: A Closer Look
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- Seth takes a closer look at controversial voter ID laws in America.
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You need ID to vote in Canada. I am shocked some states allow voting without ID.
Well said, and thanks. Things are crazy here in the US.
only six-seven in the USA apparently
Republican talking point: "I'm foreign and shocked that Americans can vote without ID."
Real foreigners are really shocked by: our permissive gun laws allowing mass shootings, lack of universal healthcare, racism and so on. If you said something against the Republicans' policies, they'd say, "Mind your business, Canadian."
@@sandal_thong8631 love how being foreign instantly makes him a Republican.
Shows the flow of logic
@@sonicdudeatdawn2 Logic? What logic? He's clearly a liberal.
Isn't it kind of racist and condescending to say assume "the black community" as a whole can't afford or find it difficult to obtain an ID...??
Who’s assuming? Should we just ignore the fact that it is harder for black people to get an ID?
I grew up very poor outdoor out house poor and still had ID. Had to have it to get a town job.
So if you can follow logic think this one out and its not a stretch to assume that if your that poor you might get some kind of public assistance. I.E. Food stamps Section 8 SSI Well my fine liberal friend how do the poor get these if your too poor? I know it hurts to have to think about these types of concepts but being poor is not a chosen life style.
Statistics backs up the claim.
Voter "ID" laws DO target minorities to disenfranchise them from exercising their rights.
Worlds information is at your fingertips, use them for something other than "picking your nose"
@@hankthepatriot3733 Left out a part. I do agree that in the past the DEM party did everything they could to keep the black community down. You know the ones, slaveholders, founders of the KKK, those guys.
@@thainekarnes8104 ah yes, the "dixiecrat" strawman!
Most of the SOUTHERN state Democrats switched to REPUBLICAN beginning with Truman (desegregation) and heavily when LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act.
Being that BOTH of those Presidents WERE Democrats and were moving forward with some type equal rights legislation.
The SOUTHERN state Democrats felt that the Democratic party ignored them (Truman being a "Northern" Democrat) and then ultimately "betrayed" them (Johnson being a "Southern" Democrat)
But the ideological shift began BEFORE the Civil War with Northern Democrats SUPPORTING Lincoln and breaking away from the Southern Democrats ideology.
But this is history, and MANY who trot out this tired ole strawman know it's a false narrative, well because times have changed, hope that those hearing it will repeat it blindly with ZERO critical thinking, or that whomever they use it with just doesn't want to go through the exercise of debunking it.
Again, THE WORLD'S KNOWLEDGE is at your fingertips, try not to wipe a booger on it!
you guys don't have citizen IDs there?
they do but its a pain in the ass to get them
+Hersa37 yeah thats the thing that always gets me. Why is this even a problem. Just make IDs mandatory, cheap and easy to get. Like in other countries. Fraud "problem" solved. Everyone gets to vote. Everyone, who isnt an asshole, is happy
Is voter fraud a problem, or is it really more a sort of total corruption of local government?
+Ste H
There's been little evidence to prove that voter fraud has ever been a problem; however, it would only take one time when large-scale fraud was detected to do a whole hell of a lot of damage to the system. It isn't an issue where we can hope to just fix the damage after it's been done.
Yes, in India we have voter id card and they are super easy to get you can use other IDs too. There is also a huge drive before election to register new voters.(btw fraud/double voting is a huge problem in high population countries)
You do know all those countries you mentioned with higher turnout already have voter ID laws on this level?
Don't know about Turkey, but in Belgium (and I think in Sweden as well) a photo ID is required by law for every citizen over the age of 16. litterally 100% of citizens have a photo ID. So yes, you need to show a photo ID before you're alowed to vote, but no one is obstructed from voting because of that. Belgium even has compulsory voting.
+JamieOwen50 where's a case of someone's ID refused? Just asking.
@@Karelfornia Don't tell the celebrities that. They matter more than people.
They also have universal ID programs or have near-universal passport usage, the US doesn't
Some really low IQ people gobble up the slop the left keep feeding them. It is sad there are that many idiots in America.
As a beer delivery guy, in a impoverished area, I never seen anyone come into any store that struggles to provide ID to buy alcohol or tobacco....
Another Republican talking point that I hear everywhere? My cousin can buy booze and smokes with her ID. I don't need mine to partake. Plus, voting is a right that people don't want you to have or exercise, but capitalists want you to buy their beer and cigarettes. Also, 18-year-olds have the right to vote, but not buy booze.
@@sandal_thong8631
I just saw an independent reporter in an impoverished community asking people if they had ID. They were pissed to find out that the government thought they were too dumb, poor, stupid, or lazy to get/have an ID. They asked younger adults (school aged) to the elderly. They even went to a homeless encampment. Guess what? Almost every one of them had an ID. Every one knew where the DMV was located and how to get there. The one homeless man that didn’t have an id - didn’t want one. I’ll try to find it and then link it.
I’m sure for those that don’t have an ID, we could find a way to get them one for free.
Most states also allow the last four digits of the SSN.
Almost every country requires proof of residency via ID to vote. Most Americans want ID’s to vote. This should be the most basic of requirements to vote.
All the other stuff can be worked out. For example: A felony released after time served should be able to vote. However, those pardoned early shouldn’t be able to vote for a few elections to prevent a sitting President or any public officials to release a plethora of criminals right before an election to win voters…
or better yet….they shouldn’t have the right to release any one, ever. There should be independent counsels for early releases and no one in the judicial system or the prison system should be on these counsels, but they may present written recommendations. That includes Presidential pardons! Both sides have abused that. Sorry I digressed..
A lot of the debates over election laws can be worked out with the exception of proof of identity - which verifies the right to vote in the first place. It’s the very basic of voting rights. If you’re worried about the small percentage of people that don’t have ID, let’s find ways to get into those communities and get them an ID - it’s a small percentage so it shouldn’t be hard. It should be free of charge to them and assistance to get them to/from the DMV. Even if the DMV has to work outside normal hours to accommodate the working class. We need greater community support and outreach for this segment of society.
Insinuating a whole segment of a community is to ignorant to find a way to get an id is degrading. My disabled, non driving, 99 yo grandma, living in Houston’s 3rd ward had an ID. It was required by her bank, her retirement account, SSI and many others I can’t remember now. It was an inconvenience but she had to have it anyways. She voted in 2016 by mail in ballot. Had she needed a copy her license, every one would have gotten that done for her. If we have people in communities that can’t even get an ID then we have much bigger problems than them voting! We all should be doing more to support them, rather than use them as a pawn for voting laws! Those people should be supported more at the city, state, federal governments levels; also we should have community outreaches and volunteers from worried people like yourself, me, their neighbors, and religious communities. We used to help our neighbors, our communities, and the elderly. Now people are too busy, looking at their electronics, chasing the almighty dollar. They only get thought of when they’re being used as a pawn for one party or the another.
@@sandal_thong8631 Voting is a right for all people that are over 18 and an american citizen. There are some exclusions such as some felons cannot vote. The voter ID laws are not to stop people from voting. It is to prove who u are while voting to prevent fraud. How hard is it to get an ID. As the comment said people have no problem showing their ID to buy alcohol but they can't show an ID for voting??? U are not making any sense. Anyone who is an American citizen can get an ID. It's not hard. Again u need it for alcohol/tobacco. U need it to drive. U need it to open a bank account. Applying for a job. Buying/renting a house or apartment. Rent a hotel room. Some prescriptions. These are all things u have to show an ID for. And there are more. Now your telling me that it's ok to have an ID for all of that but u shouldn't need one to vote to help prevent voter fraud??? To show that u are an American citizen.
Voting ID is different ID from alcohol or tobacco. In case u didn't notice most people doesn't care about politics and if they want to vote but its harder to get vote ID most of them will not want to vote instead getting one.
@@magic90015 Not sure what u are talking about. Most states I looked up said u have to show a photo
identification card. As in a driver's license or a state ID. The same thing someone needs to buy alcohol/tobacco. U do not need a "voting ID"
Further research states most states require a photo ID card and some states will accept non-photo IDs. Such as birth certificate, social security card, utility bill.
Please don't go around telling people u need a "voter ID" this is not true. All u need a photo ID to prove who u are. What is the problem with that??? Why shouldn't people have to prove who they are before doing something important like voting for a president??? To stop voter fraud.
Let me give u an example of voter fraud. Let's say I already voted. I have 2 brothers that don't vote(which is true). If the polls are not requiring and ID does that mean I can go in and vote 2 more times under my brothers name??? If they are not requiring ID then I would be able to do that. ANYONE can do that. Do u understand???
I don't see a problem in having to show your id to vote...
Some people don't have ID's. All US citizens should be able to vote no matter what.
+Stefan Hennessey Then maybe we should make it easier, cheaper (or free), and faster to get an ID. I do not see why a person wouldn't need one or use one. It's required for when you open a bank account, apply for a job/apartment, apply for government aid, etc. The only reason someone may not have an ID is if they are homeless. I honestly can't think of another reason. So what's the big deal if an ID is required to vote?
+Natalie B yeah it should be easier, cheaper and faster but these many voter ID laws make it harder, slower and not as cheap as one might think to obtain one.
+Natalie B The hilarious part is that requiring an ID won't stop the most common forms of voter fraud. Absentee fraud and registration fraud is much more common than in person voter fraud, and the new ID laws would do nothing to stop it. If the lawmakers passing the bills would have actually cared about stopping voter fraud, they would have addressed that first.
+Natalie B There is no problem with requiring an ID to vote. But there is a problem with requiring an ID to vote and then making it difficult to obtain ID.
Kind of like how it wouldn't be unreasonable to require people to wear shoes to vote, but it would be unreasonable to require people wear shoes, and then pass legislation requiring shoes to be expensive and difficult to obtain
"An 84-year old woman had trouble proving her identity after providing two birth certificates..." Uh, I think I might have put my finger on the cause of her problems!
It sounds like she was hassled at the DMV about her birth certificate, so requested another birth certificate. I hear people sometimes have to request a "corrected" birth certificate when the name is spelled wrong. I imagine she had to get a copy of her marriage certificate too, which could be what he meant to say.
I learned they brought a mobile unit to this Republican lady's house and Reba signed an affidavit stating she changed her name. She got to vote in 2016, but died in August 2018 before the election. I read a couple days ago that prior to the Florida 2000 election, they did voter purging. A Black lady taken off the rolls said (testified?) she overheard a white guy was able to sign an affidavit, but when she asked they said no, stand in the problem line, then asked her to leave when the polls closed.
Classic
Ironically at the beginning he used countries like Sweden and Turkey, commending their high voter turnout - those same nations require to have an ID to vote...
It's funny how many people are saying how easy it is to get an ID.... Did you know that DMV's in North Carolina are only open every 5th Wednesday of the month. 2016 only has 4 months with a fifth Wednesday, one of which being after Election Day. It is harder to get an id in some places, especially when the DMVs close early or are not open every day. Stop acting like you can just walk in at any time and "just get an id" when a lot of people don't have access to a DMV.
I live in North Carolina, and the DMV's are open wayyyy more than that.
+Zach Telford That was my misinformation, the DMV in the mentioned woman's area is only open every 5th Wednesday of the month. My mistake in writing.
Robin0928 whoa! That's crazy that they're open that little
+Robin0928 it's amazing how many liberals will just take this tool at his word.
Monday - Friday 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM, First Saturday of the month 8:00 AM - 12:00.they keep the same hours as every other business.
+Robin0928 just another low information bot, I also live in north carolina (wilmington) and zach is correct, however it depends on what area you live in, more rural areas, the office is only open 2 times a week
. but there are other ways to obtain an id
you need a photo ID to do pretty much anything...
01. to buy alcohol
02. to open a bank account
03. to apply for a job (to fill that bank account)
04. to file for unemployment, to apply for welfare, Medicaid, food stamps
05. to apply for Social Security
06. apply for a mortgage
07. to buy a home
08. to rent a home
09. to drive a car
10. to buy a car
11. to rent a car
12. to get on an airplane
13. to get married
14. to check into a hotel room
15. to buy a gun, to apply for a hunting license, a fishing license
16. to adopt a pet
17. to pick up a prescription
18. to buy certain kinds of cold medicine
19. to donate blood
20. to enter a casino
21. to buy lottery tickets
22. to buy a video game that’s rated M for Mature
23. to see a movie rated NC-17
24. to buy a cell phone and apply for a coverage plan
25. AND in perhaps the greatest irony of the entire Voter ID debate, you need a photo ID to hold a rally or protest, such as a rally or protest against requiring a photo ID to vote!
correct. Everyone has an ID and/or drivers license. If not, they are stupid and perhaps too lazy to get it.
An ID is needed to vote in the majority of the industrial word. What's all the fuss about?
Did you watch this video? 3:14?
Yes I did. If I go to vote in my (European) country with an expired passport and an ID without my current name on it I won't be allowed to vote. Not because I'm black or white or yellow or blue, but because I can't identify myself beyond a reasonable doubt.
we need a ID in canada, you dont have it ? no vote.
everything is racist now......
You shouldn't have to jump through flaming hoops, cross a rope bridge over croc infested pools and sing every county song in the USA to get an ID. That's the fuss.
Luise Atoll you need a ID for ALOT of things and had alot of time before the election to get one. Cry me a river
Anyone else pee on the side of the toilet at night so you don't make any noise?
Why is it a problem if you make any noise while peeing?
I am more confused by you saying this in this comment section that words can describe
I sit down. It’s quiet and doesn’t splatter
Now that's some real s*** we do that because it's like 4:30 in the morning and we don't want to wake up people because it can be quite nature invoking like a waterfall
You know why it's a problem taking a pee if you got up early enough to go to work
Why on Earth would you not require ID while voting?
Because it’s unconstitutional.
@@ryancruz1876 i mean does the constitution expressly forbid it or not mention it as a requirement? If the latter, you maybe modernise?
@@elliotnicklinmusic There's a difference between driver's license (or equivalent for non-drivers) and student ID, military ID, Social Security card, voter registration card, etc.
I learned ID for voting was started by SC in 1950. The 1965 Voting Rights act applied pre-clearance to states with a test or device and less than 50% registered or casting a ballot in 1964. In 2005 Republican states began requiring strict-photo ID, and strict-non-photo ID denying IDs minorities had in favor of a driver's-license-only policy. Then with the 2013 Supreme Court decision _Shelby County v Holder,_ they could do any voter suppression, including voter roll purges.
Pandering to certain groups of people (non-citizens) and having a massive voter turnout.
Voting is a right of every citizen, but there is nothing wrong with providing proof of one's citizenship.
Meyer's argument is idiotic. Not out of place on a comedy show, but it bothers me many viewers will take it at face value. He says requiring a 94 year old to have photo ID to vote is unreasonable because she isn't likely to try to commit fraud.
That's not how it works. The woman could be perfectly honest and it wouldn't matter in the slightest. The point to requiring her to have photo ID is to prevent someone else from voting in her name. She is in fact a much more likely target than a younger citizen because it can be expected she will die in the near future, and voting in the name of dead people is one of the most common forms of voter fraud.
There is no evidence to back up what you’re saying.
Exactly it's rare, but it can happen. And voter ID laws are a common sense solution.
Maybe the government should help as much as it can to get the ID or give an alternative verification method, but there still should be laws in place.
Trump insurrectionists breached congress despite the threat of criminal charges. Same exact thing can be true for people doing something like this. And do you think the government will put its full investigative might for 1 or 2 votes? No.
Looks like this show might be put on my list of no longer watchable comedy shows. Along with John Oliver. :-(
This is a major source of news for many people, they should take personal responsibility to make sure they are biased, and people should do their research.
@@phillybeccio2782 There is no evidence that an asteroid will hit the planet. We still slowly move to take protective measures. There is no need for evidence in this scenario. You don't need evidence to know that a car can crash. It is a fast moving metal can operated by an imperfect human being.
@@Victor-tl4dk and you’re creating another headache for people, for a problem that doesn’t exist.
Candidates can't complain that the voter turn out is not as high as expected! Some people literally can't vote.
+Mudita Y. not all people that don't vote "literally can't vote". Many people who want to vote are not allowed to, news does not inform voter registration anymore, and some documents are very difficult to get while working and studying.
Matthew Kelly
people without gov. issued photo ID, and people who've been in jail.
*****
that's full bullshit, I'd let go because you're ignorant, but it's been proven, states have changed the ID requirements, just look at what happened there.
Matthew Kelly
honey, Nevada had their bigger turn out in history and they didn't have new ID laws, Wisconsin disenfranchised a lot of people. a estimate is 30.000. id had only one voter "fraud" is decades, and it was a mistake, because they thought the person was dead.
Matthew Kelly
how can you be so stupid? Wisconsin was not the only state to have record breaking turnout. correlation is different from causation, in this case it is impossible to be causation.
you are worse than flat-earthers.
edit:
www.salon.com/2016/04/06/wisconsins_voter_id_sham_republican_rep_admits_the_law_targets_democrats_its_time_for_the_rest_of_the_gop_to_say_it_too/
rewire.news/article/2016/04/04/walkers-voter-id-law-disenfranchise-300000-registered-wisconsin-voters/
I love how in Arizona you can literally just order an ID online and pay $4 and have it arrive within a week. So much more difficult in CA
If you're too lazy to get an ID, you really shouldn't vote. And don't tell me everyone should vote. Every time a person that votes without knowing any of the issues, everyone else's vote gets DILUTED.
If you vote to take away people's right to vote, you shouldn't be allowed to hold office.
@@sandal_thong8631 he said they shouldn't, but that doesn't mean he wants to ban it. I certainly think there are hundreds of millions of ignorant, naive, young kids who don't know anything and think with pathos, not with logos. The world would be better if those people didn't vote, however I'm never going to think banning or restricting anything is a good thing.
@@ollikoskiniemi6221 The more people who vote, the less likely radical extremists will win office. Young people often have valid points of view. Around the world some kids don't go to high school if they don't pay school fees. Here, eliminating school fees for community college is on the table. But it might not pass because a rich dude (Mansion?) doesn't like it; I guess he wants them to work his coal mines.
@@sandal_thong8631 I suppose there's truth in that, but people have been wrong before many times. The public can be easily mislead. Think of the witch trials of middle ages. The people wanted to see those women dead, but they didn't have any evidence on them. The people can be wrong, and the public is always thirsty for blood, though we might not realize it. It's one of the reason why death penalty still exists. When faced with something that people fear or hate, they will return to their most primitive, animalistic form. No matter how civilized they are, they will want to see what they fear and hate to be destroyed. And the public can be easily made to fear and hate certain things.
Think of all the propaganda and brainwashing that has been done in N.Germany, North Korea, Soviet Union, China, et cetera. Even the modern western world has propaganda and brainwashing. I guarantee you.
@@ollikoskiniemi6221 "Democracy is the worst form of government... except for all others that have been tried."-attributed to Churchill, but perhaps not him.
"I don’t want everybody to vote… our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down."-right winger, Paul Weyrich
According to the poll, which was published Wednesday, an overwhelming majority of voters-74 percent-support voter ID requirements. Importantly, minority voters, the ones Democrats claim are most affected by the laws, are strongly supportive.
Maybe, maybe not. If it's a poll done by a conservative organization, then it can't be trusted (conservative means liar). The definitions of ID (identification) and voter-ID is glossed over by the voter-ID supporters (who are usually ignorant and/or liars). Using a bank statement as ID might be enough for most of those 74%, while those seeking voter suppression want it to be driver's license only (because a lot of Blacks don't drive). Anyway, Republicans don't really believe in democracy; they could have supported national voter ID standards in either the John Lewis Voting Rights Act or the For the People Act in congress, but didn't, because they don't want voting rights for Blacks.
Fortunately, NC Superior Court struck down the NC voter ID amendment of 2018. Now we just need someone like Stacey Abrams to get people in NC to register and vote in 2022 like she did in GA in 2020-21.
@@sandal_thong8631 Your really going to judge all conservatives lairs. Sound like u have issues buddy. Seems like u have alot of hate towards people. U have some internal problems u need to work out there.
And voter ID is not stopping black people from voting. All it is doing is making it to where I have to show and ID no matter what the color of your skin is.
And the statement "alot of blacks don't drive" sounds pretty racist. I know alot of black people. Everyone of them I know drive.
@@sandal_thong8631 the moment you say (conservatives means liars), that is when your argument is irrelevant....P.S. I am a liberal, but not one with deranged disposition like you
I mean, you should have an ID to vote. Maybe there should be alternative verification methods, or the government should assist in it, but you definitely should have an ID to vote.
Yeah, for sure. The problem is when they only take certain types of ID. For example Student ID’s aren’t accepted but gun licenses are 🤔
Polls show that Republicans don't feel any more confident about elections where there's strict photo-ID laws, like GA. In fact some may feel the laws are an indication that cheating is rampant.
@@sandal_thong8631 Every american citizen. Democrat, republican and independent should want people to show an ID to prove who they are. That they are an American citizen and they are casting their vote. What is the problem with that??? Sound be common sense. Why shouldn't people have to show an ID???
@@grimaffiliations3671 this is a stupid argument lol, student ID are produced by the university(they can be easily fake) not by the state unlike a gun license. This like asking why an ATM won't accept your student ID to withdraw money.
@@m.syamil_KR4PU Student ID's are valid forms of ID in pretty much every other state including deep red ones like Alabama
1:42 I love the logic here. "look what this ONE woman TOLD us she had to do to get an ID, this is an unacceptable requirement!" Apart from the fact that the claim from this woman is unverifiable (random anecdote without a name), the focus here--instead of trying to help people such as her to get an ID--is to just reject the requirement completely as "voter suppression". No, its called being a responsible adult. If you cant get an ID in time for the next election, which as of today is in 3 years, then maybe you shouldn't vote.
People in NC testified in Superior Court this April, explaining how they couldn't get required photo-ID between the 2013 law's passage and the 2016 primary. They weren't anecdotes, like Reagan's welfare queens. They were people of color, some disabled, and one couldn't get an accurate SC birth certificate to get NC ID. You said people who can't get ID shouldn't vote; but Republicans mean Black people shouldn't vote.
Why is it so hard to get an Id. Step1: find out what info and documentation you need to get an id. Step 2: take documentation to DMV or wherever they will issue the id's. What is sooo hard.... Just dont be lazy...
People don't like to do research or spend time/money on things that they don't think they should have to do or don't want to do.
But just let me vote, it's my right.
It's hard because white-supremacist Republicans have been on a mission since 2005 to make it hard for blacks, the elderly, the disabled, 18-year-olds and other minorities to vote.
@@SiegePerilousEsauMaltomite So they're lazy?
I don't get why everyone loves Fallon and doesn't know Seth. Seths a fuckin genius and isn't some smarmy loud annoying Putz
ikr Seth is definitely one of the best in my opinion waaay better than Fallon.
+Jonathan schaefer Fallon is more popular right now because he embraces the mainstream and is afraid to poke fun at individuals or ideas. Seth is the opposite even though both shows are produced by the same people essentially.
His games and stuff are more entertaining appeal to a wider audience
+Jonathan schaefer personally, i spend a lot of time during the week paying attention to important and serious issues (like voting rights) that seth - and also colbert - covers in his desk bits...so when it's time for me to relax and watch something funny i like to watch something more mindless and removed from the more serious aspects of life, which is exactly what jimmy's games and stupid interviews provides
+Jonathan schaefer Fallon's type of humour is harmless and candy-coated. He avoids discussing any serious topics except in the form of short, inoffensive monologues. Seth Meyers and Stephen Colbert are more edgy and topical, which drives away a lot of mainstream viewers. Sad, but true.
As a Canadian, I've always had to have ID when I've voted, it was never a problem. I've never heard of someone not having at least one piece of govt ID. Maybe that's just a Canadian thing.. Being prepared.
Here in Texas you need one of 7 acceptable forms, and there is a free one you can get just to vote. People are callin this draconian.
In the US, Democrats wants illegal immigrants to vote without an ID so that they can stay in power.
It makes no sense for a country to allow people to vote without an ID
@@johnayah4414 That's spot on . We need to speak the truth more and I stand with you on what you said.
Five years ago the subject was how strict-photo voter ID may reduce Democratic votes by 1-3%. Now the laws being passed will allow Republicans to overturn fair elections without evidence of fraud. Voting Republican is now like voting Communist: if they win, they end democracy.
@@sandal_thong8631 You must be living in some sort of alternative universe. Probably high on drugs.
I live in NC and we had the highest primary numbers on record in state history last week; with the voter ID laws in place.
+Daniel Hunt That doesn't mean that there wasn't voter suppression. A lot of people who wouldn't of otherwise come out to vote came out to vote for Trump and less so Bernie in NC.
Yeah, but without voter suppression those numbers would've been even higher.
Maybe that's part of the backlash to these laws. After purging 500,000 voters from the rolls in GA to win the 2018 governor's race by 50,000, 600,000 people registered (or re-registered) and it made a difference in 2020. The 2021 laws may backfire on Republicans as some of their voters are expected to have trouble voting and the media attention may inspire Democrats to get ID, register and vote!
#stillbernie
#bernieorbust
#berniesanders
#FeeltheBern
+lou dedon Socialism works great...
Till you run out of money.
+xhammy care to go into factual detail on how it would fail in the US?
+xhammy capitalism is great... Until you run out of money.
But it's capitalism, so you can just go work for more money.
Same evil ID laws doesn't let them by alcohol or cigarettes.
Companies want Blacks to buy alcohol or cigarettes so are permissive with IDs; Republicans don't want Blacks to vote so require IDs they're less likely to have. Also, someone can use their ID to buy these vices for me, but can't use their ID to vouch for my identity so I can vote.
@@sandal_thong8631
It's the same ID.
@@bubbiesdad Don't be absurd, you don't need a *_driver's license_* to buy alcohol and cigarettes. Maybe you should watch "Why Doesn't Everyone Have a Voter ID?" ruclips.net/video/CtevgEN8BKw/видео.html
@@sandal_thong8631 You need an ID to buy alcohol or cigarettes.
@@sandal_thong8631 I’m pretty sure companies want anyone with money to buy their products, not just blacks.
I’m a police officer in one of the most dangerous and poorest cities in the country. A major of people I come in contact with are black. In 7 years and encountering thousands of blacks (many in poverty) every single one of them had photo ID, maybe not in their possession but we’re on file through the DMV.
To say minorities are incapable of getting IDs is really just an insult to them.
Aren't these requirements for a form of ID a form of a Poll Tax? I mean generally you have to pay some sort of fee for any form of ID so therefore you are paying for the right to vote which I believe would be a poll tax. I mean it isn't direct but I believe we have an amendments that made poll taxes illegal or something right?
+thechiliman500 Your logic is sound... but not not quite on target. You are correct that a Poll Tax would violate the 24th Amendment and in some arguments both the 14th and 15th as well; however, no state has implemented such a tax since 1966 (Mississippi). The principal argument for the necessity of an ID to vote is simply to validate that the person voting is registered in that voting district. Everything else is just fluff for the media to feed on. For the argument that "underprivileged" and "low-income" individuals would be forced to pay a fee to get an ID to then vote fails simply on the fact that in order to receive any assistance via the city, county, state or federal government, an ID mush be shown at the time of requesting such assistance. In addition, all states require that new residents of that state document their residency within 30-90 days; this would be done at a state office and several forms of ID would be required. Now, for those that have lived in the same house, in the same city for several decades (arguably a small, and ever-shrinking number), there have been multiple proposals to offer State ID's (in lieu of a Drivers License) free of costs to those on any form of assistance (again, stating that in order to have received that assistance in the first place would have required and ID). Point being, in most cases, the argument of ID's being a burden on the low income, minority or otherwise disenfranchised tends to fall flat once you get past the emotional argument and delve into the actual facts. Most, if not all, of that segment of the population already has ID, but once you actually make them accountable (in the case of proving residency) the house of cards starts to tumble...
+Michael M the problem is that the restriction to vote isn't just any voter id. The restrictions put into place are often photo Id which many low income people do not have. If you don't have a car and can't afford one why get a drivers license? If you are old and not eligibile to drive any more, what photo Id will you have
+RedskinsBoss - Every State has a Personal Identification Card that is available in lieu of a drivers license. In most, if not all states, these ID's are available for a little as $5 and if you meet the definition of "Low to Moderate Income" in those areas, which i would also be a requirement for ANY assistance provided by that State, there would be not fee at all. Additionally, as you stated, many low income people do not need a license, much less a car as the cannot afford it. However, I will venture to say that they do receive state/federal benefits, both of which require a picture ID that would meet the same standards as put forth in the proposed voter ID laws. I understand your point, but the position just doesn't stand up to the litmus test once you get into the details.
It’s really similar the south did that for years and it seriously a lot like the poll tax but by a different name
In the Netherlands it is required to have your ID (passport or identification card) with you AT All TIMES. Well, when you are out on the street at least. When the cops stop you for whatever reason and you don´t have your ID with you, you can be fined.
@Andree De haan I thought it was only a fine of 25 euro. Never been in that situation or heard about people being put in jail like that. It seems to me it´s easy to identify yourself: just go home with the police and show your ID.
In America you just have to say your name to identify yourself, not show ID. Some conservatives here want to bring back "stop and frisk" to put the Blacks down.
@@sandal_thong8631 Just say your name to identify yourself? Wow, a full proof system.
@@praapje I look forward to the day we defund, disarm and displace the police with Michael Moore's Department of Public Safety and Compassion.
@@sandal_thong8631 I´m looking foward to that day too, just to see reality smack some sense into you.
You need an ID to fly, buy alcohol, and enter School. My grandparents had IDs even before they were citizens. So get the outta here with this.
Republicans don't believe in democracy.
@@sandal_thong8631 by not allowing iilegals to vote you dumb guck
Now I like the comedy on this issue. Yet when large groups that might not vote for certain candidates can't vote, I would call that legal obstruction of democracy. And that is very very worrying.
Lol I'm not surprised, the political/government/justice systems are some the most corrupt organizations in America.
Even on the Democrat side, it's suppose to be a democracy, but ONE person's "superDelegate" vote for [candidate A] can effectively cancel out *thousands* of citizens votes for [candidate B].
If this is so, and the media support that status quo, how is resistance or waking up organized?
KootFloris The governement from state to federal is full of corruption and a large majority of politicians are puppets to thier special-interest donor lobbyist.
The best the "people" can do is vote uncorruptable politicians into office, like senator Elizabeth Warren who is one of the few politician who fight for the little people.
But thanks to the electoral college, super-delegates combined with the voter suppressing ID laws, they want to take the power away from the people and skew the votes towards the candidate they want.
Oh and the media is controlled by those same special-interest, while a few shows actively try to expose the corruption (The Daily Show, Last Week Tonight, etc.) Thoae shows have a small but loyal fanbase, but the larger media keeps the masses distracted with celebrity gossip.
This gets clearer and clearer when you look into it. I think the whole scam is known by many, who know how and where to look (even when that includes very freaky conspiracy believers). So how and when will large protests begin? Or the tv media begin to suffer, because nobody watches it anymore? (which would cost millions in advertising revenue). :)
+undrtakr900 - Imagine how bad it is in oil klepto countries like Russia? Where assassinations r a yawn (another one?). The hysterical timid US media goes crazy about candidates like Trump and Cruz who have always been a common feature in the GOP for the last 60 years.
I'm from Europe and it is natural for us that you have to show some kind of ID while voting.
Did you even watch the video at all
Don't know what country your talking about. In Canada and Sweden if you forget your ID, your neighbor, friend or relative can show their ID and vouch for your identity.
wait what?! Americans doesn't have government issued ID on hand? in sweden there is no ID that isn't government issued.. we have the same law that they just got but the law just says "Hey! bring a real ID-card if you want to vote stupid"
+Björn Malmquist Most people have driver's licenses, which is government issued photo ID.
Another damn foreigner sticking their 2 cents where it doesn't belong! If States passed a Swedish-style voting law, Republicans heads would explode over resident aliens of 3 years being able to vote in local elections! Or a collateral contact (neighbor, friend or relative) showing their ID then vouching so homeless or people without ID can vote! And I think Sweden's where you do automatic voter registration.
never seen this show before... so is he joking, or is that really his argument against voter id?
Seth just said the exact thing as John Oliver did, but in a quarter of the time
he was much funnier though
And only a quarter as funny
This is talking about photo id law.
Photo id unlike other stuff is costly to maintain as you have to renew it and other
It's like the film Minority Report- punish people for a crime that hasn't happened.
Suppress 1500 voters without driver's license (or equivalent you get when it's revoked) to block 1 attempt at in-person identity fraud.
You need to be a citizen to vote? I don't see why its a problem to get an id. lmao.
+M willi Drivers' license costs between $500 and $1000 to get, and many poor citizens aren't able to afford that, since they just use public transportation.
+gregslife7 No it doesn't. I just got one. Maybe drivers ed does. A license doesn't, and a normal state Id also does not. So thats rediculous.
+M willi it depends on the state, but many states don't have state IDs widely available, and DMVs/RMVs charge fees every step of the way, often totaling several hundred dollars by the end of the process
+gregslife7 if you cant pay a one time fee of several hundred dollar one time fee, then you don't deserve to decide where our tax money goes. Because you clearly aren't putting anything in to it. I know that sounds harsh, but it is equally as true.
+M willi **hundred dollars,**
🗳According to the new poll, which was published Wednesday, an overwhelming majority of voters-74 percent-support voter ID requirements. Importantly, minority voters, the ones Democrats claim are most affected by the laws, are strongly supportive.
Polls can be worded to support your position. I don't think someone supporting showing military or student ID or even a utility bill to vote should count towards the Republican dream of stopping Blacks without driver's licenses from voting.
@@sandal_thong8631 Where did you hear that Republicans want to prevent blacks from voting?
@Laura Deuce Scholars say there's no evidence of his voter registration, though southern Blacks probably would not have registered as Democrats during the nadir of race relations. Further, one said Dr. King said he voted for LBJ in 1964. Of course this was before Nixon's Southern Strategy, where Nixon invited segregationist southern Democrats (Dixiecrats?) to join the Republican Party and the Republicans became anti-Black ever since, now opposed to the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
i dont see how requireing an ID is such a big deal, PA has all the same restrictions and all i had to do was look up the required documents and get a money order, it took like 3 hours cost like $30. The biggest pain was that i had to register by Oct 11, 2016 to vote in the presidential election.
I guess you didn't watch the whole video.
The last general election in India had 540 million voters participate, even from the furthest rural and village areas. Certain politicians are clearly suppressing the vote here in the U.S.
I agree with tough voter laws so we don't have illegals vote.
+Gaeron Cite your proof that illegal aliens have been voting?
+impykins dead people have voted in states you moron. If they don't ask for IDs then of course illegals are going to vote
+Darichard Johnson Thumbs up!
+Gaeron I'd love to see where illegal aliens voting has been a problem. Any documented proof, or is this Right Wing scare tactic telling we should do something about before it becomes a problem?
+Darichard Johnson
illegals don't vote you fucken idiot
really?! is it really that hard to get an ID card? Jesus Melissa Christ, you need an ID to cash a check and do other personalize business.
+elysium76 You know it costs around $500 to get a driver's license, right? Many poor citizens who just use public transportation can't afford a $500 fee just to vote.
+gregslife7 a driver's license costs $35...
Getting an ID in texas at the dmv cost around 15 dollars. Where ate you getting 500 dollars from?
in Massachussets is costs around $800 to get a driver's license with driver's ed, and between $100 and $175 without driver's ed. Source: today.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/FullReportVoterIDJune20141.pdf
Instead of debating about needing ID's to vote why don't we just make it easier to get an ID?
As someone outside the U.S., this debate seems kind of ridiculous to me. Of course you should require ID to vote, just like other countries. But you should also have a national ID system that everyone gets so that everyone already has their ID.
The problem is getting ID in America is much harder than it is elsewhere... DMV's all over the country have been shut down and understaffed for years.
States run elections and a few require you to have a driver's license (or equivalent you get when it's revoked) to vote. Some people don't drive. Passports and military ID might not have your address, so aren't allowed. Tribal IDs might not have an address either for people on a reservation, since they don't have a 123 Main St. The Republican hypocrites will sometimes allow a firearms permit as ID but not a student ID, or they'll allow expired IDs from seniors. Anything to stop minorities, disabled, young, homeless, or poor people from voting and taking away their power to rule.
its insane seeing how much people have aged in the past four years...
whats worse is that this could be posted today, and other that Seth looking younger, would be accepted as current news
Since 2016 Evil Republicans have moved on to passing laws in 2021 letting them overthrow the elections when they don't get the results they want, or going into a district and throwing out ballots to remove Democratic votes, or giving power to their poll watchers to object to any or every voter in a precinct making them cast a provisional ballot instead. Supposedly they had change-of-address lists from the post office, so would have forced voters to come back with proof of address to make their provisional votes count, but courts stopped them.
This is what happens when people don't vote in the midterms or don't vote because their favorite candidate isn't in the running.
We'll be paying for the 2010 election for another 10 years in NC with gerrymandering. All because the Democrats were afraid to say how great their 2009-2010 accomplishments were: Obamacare and Cash for Clunkers.
well said.
Many other industrialized countries require IDs to vote. I don't see the problem with ensuring only living US citizens are voting in our elections. Where I live you don't even have to prove you're a citizen to register, you just need a driver's license which they give to anyone regardless of citizenship (though that is changing). How about we automatically give a photo ID to any citizen when they register to vote in the first place?
I prefer these segments that Seth does, even over The Daily Show.. Great work.
Why can't we just vote using our SS number? Every American citizen has one and %90 know it by heart?
I like your idea but Democrats won't do it because illegal aliens won't be able to vote.
If racist liberals think blacks are too stupid to get ID, they probably think they are too stupid to memorize their SSN. I don't think that way of course cuz I'm not a liberal.
There is a lot of arrogance and STUPID comments being made, because the issue is with older, older, OLDER black Americans in rural southern areas of the U.S. people older than 62 are being impacted not 20 year olds. Social security card were not mandatory for employment until 1978, that's only 40 years ago. Before 1950 it's a safe bet a black adult does not have a hospital birth certificate since in the south black could not get help in a white hospital, most were home births. Do some research before you fall off your HIGH house and break a leg or something.
Since election day 2020, Republicans are showing they are against democracy. Whether it's Trump's Big Lie that he won and claiming Fraud that he can't prove in court, the January 6th Insurgency, GA's Election Integrity Act that may go so far as overturning the 2022 election, voter roll purges by GA's secretary of state, Texas trying to pass its law, and Republicans opposing voter rights bills in Congress, even when Democrats say they will compromise on voter ID (shame).
Guess what... Belgium, Turkey, Nd Sweden (countries he mentioned) all require a form of verification to vote 😰😰
Belgium has automatic voter registration and is looking at letting 16-year-olds vote. Republicans in U.S. want fewer people (minorities) to vote to win more, so don't want these things.
How the hell is it difficult to get an ID? In holland literally 100% of people have ID. Minimum is an ID card, but most have a passport and drivers licence as well.
Also our pets have ID by the way 😂 Animal passport for trips to the vet…
providing ID to vote... that's crazy talk
its more than that
+4TheRepublic having to miss work to travel to a MDV to possibly get a chance to order an ID in time, to gain the right that's suppose to be given by living in a democracy is at least disenfranchisement.
+all nullified if you can't figure out how to get an ID then you are too stupid to vote
also how did you get that job without an ID?
4TheRepublic
kkkkk there's no intelligence test to vote, the requirement is be a citizen. Yes without a government issued photo ID.
I think my soul just sighed.
In Sweden you have to show ID to vote...
Or your friend, neighbor or relative can show their ID and vouch for your identity.
Well, I live in Sweden and we don't have to vote here and we have 82,6% voter turnouts and it's not a must to vote. One the we need to do before entering the voting booth is to show
a valid ID always! Make it easier for people to get ID's instead of whining. Here you can get on at every police station and every DMV.
I think Swedes aren't trying to stop minorities from voting. I read they allow resident aliens to vote in local elections after 3 years. Republicans' heads would explode if states started doing that. Austria allows 16-year-olds to vote, Germany in municipal election and Greece 17-year-olds. BOOM!
"A Closer Look" is my favorite segment. Keep up the good work
this is literally the same thing as the John Oliver piece.
that's what I was thinking
+not important Literally? Word for word?
But John oliver does not seem to be reading off the teleprompter the entire time
+not important John Oliver does not have a monopoly on news stories in the united states.
+not important Talking about the same issue, yes, but obviously different sources and references, and most importantly, different jokes.
How does one prove voter fraud without IDs? Does anyone challenge these examples of people going to the DMV 10 times and not getting an ID.?? I just voted in the NC Primary, we have a 2 week early voting period. There were no lines during the week, open until 7pm. I asked what my options were to test the ID requirement, I had the option to give the last 4 digits of my soc sec # and sign a statement that I had a hard time obtaining an ID. Come on people!, if people are claiming they couldn't vote, challenge them. BTW NC voting has been higher since these new "obstacles" have gone into effect. Its funnier when you don't have to bend the facts to match your agenda.
NC voter registration has gone up every 4 years since at least 1970, so not just since the 2013 law. People of color testified in NC Superior Court in April 2021 against the voter amendment, saying they had a problem getting required ID by 2016 primary. We needed a registration drive and get-out-the-vote effort like GA had for 2020 to take back the state and end Republican control and Gerrymandering. Seven out of 8 NC Republican Congressmen to the House of Representatives voted to overturn the election. Worse than voter suppression, they now stand for insurrection!
Wow that's crazy. Making people show show ID to vote when my 57 year old ass can't even buy a beer without my ID being scanned. That's just crazy.
I think we need Voter ID laws as a common sense measure to protect the integrity of our political process, but it needs to be much easier to get an ID.
oh yeah 30 known cases out of a billion your guys voting system seems pretty broke
+Benjamin Peterson I don't know how they would track it, but if we make IDs easily accessible for all citizens then there's no good argument against them.
Davis Odom maybe you guys shouldnt have to pay for voting
+Benjamin Peterson We don't...
Davis Odom you have to pay for ID which in turn means you are indirectly paying for voting
94 is also a terrible age to begin to seek ID. This is something they had a century to obtain!
She probably has ID that she couldn't use for voting and had photo ID 14 years prior, but it expired. The 86-year-old life-long Republican moved from PA to NC and needed ID with her new address. I read they admitted they made a mistake and sent a mobile unit to make her ID. She passed away Aug 2018.
In Belgium if you are a documented citizen you are obligated by law to vote. In practice it usually means you just need to show up, even if you just cast a blank vote, but you still need to show up. Otherwise you pay a fine of like $70.
Also everyone has some sort of ID. You can't do anything without one, and most definitely vote.
+WhateverWasLeft Maybe you should all show up and vote to repeal that. My presumption is that in the United States refusal to participate in the electoral process could be considered a form of symbolic protest protected by the First Amendment. Anyway, there are a whole lot of people in the United States who should not be encouraged to vote. Have you ever heard of Donald Trump?
F- Belgium. Five million were likely coerced into voting in Syria, though the dictator claimed to win 13 million.
I did not realize poor people and minorities did not have an ID. I am below middle class and everybody I know has an ID. You can't do anything without an ID how do these people even exist.
I would guess most have an ID. But if the state requires a driver's license and you don't drive, then they close the DMV so you can't get one, that really hits the 18-20 crowd. I just read that 25% of registered voters in NC, registered since 2016!
If the system wanted to be fair as they claim they do, they would make it possible to do this process online, at least a large part of it. For Christ's sake, it's 2016.
That wouldn't help much considering that many of these people also can't afford an internet connection.
Not to mention the foreign hackers we'd have to fight off.
doing something so important like voting for the next president online would work people would just keep voting and well we know killary and sanders supporters they don't work so they'll just keep voting
@@japzone Everyone with a cell phone has an internet connection. I would be more concerned about rural areas that have poor service or no service.
puppets are starting to look more like real life humans everyday.
Comparing voter turnout with Belgium isn't really fair tbh. Belgium is a country with compulsory voting. People who don't vote risk judicial punishment. Having a photo ID is obligated as well for anyone over the age of 16.
+JamieOwen50 Lame ass excuse like, "Sir, this ID is expired," is that what you mean?
I think they have automatic registration and aren't trying to stop the Blacks from voting.
The US has 300+ million people. It's apples and oranges comparing us to Belgium and Sweden. But since we are Sweden has god damn voter ID laws. So does France, Italy, Belgium, Spain, Switzerland Germany. All those places with high voter turn out. Sweden has a national registry with every single person's personal information on it in order to streamline voting. This includes Name, birth, address, and marital status. The stuff you use for credit applications. You know that same personal information that is easily hacked and I certainly don't trust my government to protect. I already have 4 forms of identity protection going right now as a 'fix' for government and school idiots getting hacked. A voter database full of hackable data doesn't sound like a good thing. Also, the same problems would exist with the imaginary 94 year old black woman not being in the database because she is incapable of getting assistance, which could be had by asking any reasonable person.
Having an ID is required to: drive a car, buy alcohol, open a bank account, fly, obtain a job, apply for welfare, get married, get a cell phone plan, buy certain over the counter medication and much more...
Not having an ID is a bigger problem than just not being able to vote. If you truly want to help people, then help them obtain valid IDs.
If you want to undermine the integrity of our elections, then don't require people to verify their identities prior to voting...
Evil, lying Republicans proved in 2020-1 that they don't believe in the integrity of elections when their candidates lose, like in GA which had this strict-photo ID laws since 2005.
Yeah, I agree. I believe that voter fraud isn't a problem, but we can't afford for it to become one
@@sandal_thong8631 u do realize we all know ur some bot right? U are literally replying to every comment.
Voter turnout in Switzerland are at around 49%, so that's pretty low, but I mean we do vote four times a year so that may be a reason.
@YourNatureBoy27 Switzerland has alot of referendums.
I was10 when I got my first state ID card. Took 15 minutes
+airplaneguy17 dam man where u get the mail?
White privilege, or Republican liar?
It's not just the elderly and black voters that are effected. I am a white guy in his 30s living in TN, and our ID laws kept me from voting in the primary (sorry Bernie), because my ID was a bit expired. For someone who works, but does not own a car, it is difficult to get a new ID. I had to set up a ride after work, and they had to be willing to sit and wait until I could be seen and helped at the DMV. Spots like these always focus on octogenarians or the black vote, but it effects many groups (even those who are not in groups targeted by these ID laws, as black people were clearly targeted). These burdens to political participation don't see skin or age, even if they were designed to disenfranchise those groups; for middle-aged white people who might see this as unimportant because it doesn't affect them, it very well could. Stand up against ID laws now.
+quantumperception There is another solution: Pay more taxes. With those you get affordable public transport systems or enough service centers so that you can walk to one of them. Or take a day off work (and/or a cab/Uber) to renew the ID - AFAICS once every eight years?
Tim Landscheidt For cities, both overgrown towns and metropolises, perhaps your suggestion would work. However, in rural TN, where I live, it would not be economically feasible to have public transit out here, or more service centers. I am willing to pay more in taxes, though I would put the money to better use than these impracticalities you suggest.
Uber also doesn't exist out here, and the rates for cabs would be outrageous given where I live. I cannot easily take a day off either- you may have a job that allows this, but if most low-pay workers miss a day of work, they might not have that job any longer (myself included). Plus the DMV is only open 3 days a week, and the days it is open are our busiest days at my job (therefore, I am most needed).
That said, you seem to be missing the point- 31 cases of voter fraud in 16 years, vs. tens of thousands of people facing greater difficulty and obstacles to voting. The proponents of the bill even admitted that the real reason why they did this was because Republicans benefit from low voter turn-out, and that the majority of disenfranchised voters would be Democrats. The obstacles to voting are not a byproduct of the law... they are the point of these laws. People like me have hoops that we must now jump through in order to vote, that we didn't face before, all because it helps Reps to win. Sure, I can, and have, put effort into jumping through those hoops so that I can vote, but the point is that I shouldn't have to do so. It isn't about voter fraud, it is about Reps winning, and they have since admitted as much. It is like the old idea of a poll tax- you might say "Well, just pay the poll tax and you can vote." The point is that it might be easy for you to do that, but others face obstacles that you do not face, and might have a harder time overcoming those obstacles to vote. And since voting is a right, there are supposed to be no obstacles to overcome in order to exercise that right. Should we also have to show ID to exercise the right to remain silent? Id for the right to free speech?
quantumperception
You did not have a single day off from work in eight years? You worked with no vacation for 417 weeks?
Tim Landscheidt Wow. Purposefully missing the point, I see. No, for instance, I had one day off this week- Tuesday. DMV is closed Tuesday. Any other unhelpful advice you want to give, while missing the point? Any inconvenience, even the smallest one, set up as an obstacle to voting, in order to dissuade certain voters, is disgusting. Downplay the obstacle, and try to make screwing people out of their rights sound okay if you wish, but most people are smart enough to see the problem, even if you refuse to see it.
+quantumperception I don't downplay the obstacle, the country I live in where 80 million people need an ID card (and manage to get one, and have higher participation rates in elections, and must have four weeks paid vacation per year, and …) does that much more convincingly for me.
But if I wanted to point out an obstacle in the US system, I'd rather focus on the decision to hold elections on a weekday where most working people need to, well, work. Choosing one day of one's own accord in an eight year timeframe to get an ID card is easy, weaving in an extra appointment in an already full workday's schedule is hard.
#Gotrump 🎺
they just wanto to make it harder for bernie sanders to win
#stillsanders #bernieorbust
+jebirobin1 Now, now. That's only regarding media coverage. These laws had been written up well before Bernie announced his candidacy. Though uninformed independents are being screwed in states because some required you be a democrat, or they allow only a democrat or Unaffiliated (not green party, not libertarian, not anything) person participate in the primaries. And often you have to declare your affiliation months before that primary, with new voters often needing registration and affiliation at least one month prior to the primaries.
Yeah by not letting illegals vote for him.
+yankeegrey2810 Or anybody
Yeah, because everyone who supports him isn't old enough lol
Wolves And Sheeple Trump definitely won't be business as usual. Whether that's a good or bad thing remains to be seen.
I don't think the Voter ID laws are the problem, the problem seems to be that it's hard to get IDs. I'm from Europe and I know we're not perfect (we're far from perfect), but we have a simple system - fill in a from, wait a month (or pay if you want it faster) and get your passport/ID card/driver's license (renewal only for driver's license after you've passed the tests and all). I understand that this may not apply to the US directly, but streamlining it at least in certain areas should be possible!
+Mario Krastanov
The thing is they pair all these laws with attempts to try and prevent people from getting Id's. Like shutting down DMV's and stuff.
Why don’t adults in America have ID? Photo ID
Horses are kept in stables
Buttercup likes to live life on the edge.
Come on, you have to give the GOP a chance, there is no ways they could win the election fairly
Guess all your late night talk show propaganda was wrong
Wait asking for ID for a constitutional right is unconstitutional...............gun control?
There’s no amendment against requiring someone to have an ID to buy a gun.
Guns kill kids
How one votes is one thing but I think there's a larger elephant in the room. Most democracies in the world are embarassed when voter participation because it represents a failure of democracy and democratic values. I blame first-past-the-post. Why doesn't the U.S. do some electoral reform of its stupid archaic system? If voting participation is any indicator, the U.S. is not the greatest democracy in the world.
Every other first-past-the-post democracy in the world is at least discussing (people or even political parties taking a position) how this system is outdated and alienating.
How this guy have a show ?
Unlike you.
+Mickey stawirt because he's smart and funny maybe
Somebody is trying to be like John Oliver
who is trying trying to be John Stewart. its not a new formula.
... if you want to vote then get an ID to prove who you are. Why is that so hard?
Because evil Republicans want to make it hard for minorities, disabled etc. to vote. Right-winger Paul Weyrich said, "I don’t want everybody to vote… our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down."
The idea that so many tax dollars are spent on fighting the requirement for voter ID blows my fucking mind. If you need it to buy a drink you should need it to vote in a federal election. Quit wasting our fucking money.
All praise the glorious leader Donald Trump and his tremendous hands lol
+Murda Incorp ikr
that's all you got?????????
when ww3 starts all you trump supporters ready to fight right?
+tworains2 in a combat vet, so yeah. loser. there isn't going to be any war. keep drinking the cool aid. dems pushing the narrative of fear. divide and conquer, the dem mantra. reps want to unite this country. you are listening to the wrong people.
The crowd laughter in this piece sounds fake.
These people he is talking about don’t have any trouble producing ID to cash their Government checks right?
It's a just a sneaky way to get non-citizens to vote.
so the American empire is beginning to crumble...
you wish
"oh boy they want someone to present ID to to vote that's racist" the only racist is you bringing in race for no good reason I'm tired of this nonsense
Your kind tries to pass laws requiring a driver's license to vote, while lying and saying it's just to "present ID". You do this because you heard more Blacks (and minorities) don't have driver's licenses than Whites to get a 1-3% voter suppression in the next election. Then you call opposition to the racist law, racist!
Yo seth ur not John oliver. Ur not even Carson Daly. Get off TV and let someone better have a shot.
In Canada we all need proper ID to vote. What’s the big deal?? If someone doesn’t have ID - They don’t vote. Simple.
* For those in your country without ID - help them get it - not for the election purposes only - but for their LIFE!!!!! Need ID to do anything. Why do Americans make this an issue? Bizarre.
Don't we need IDs to get into R rated movies, get on an airplane, and buy alcohol?
one of a SELECT id???? you mean my damn DRIVERS LICENCE that i need to drive a car????? lmaopoo
The biggest difference between US and other countries' ID law is the US has no national ID, so each state can do it differently, making it very easy to obstruct people obtaining ID.
US has military ID and passports, but states don't allow them for voting because they don't have your current address.
@@sandal_thong8631 I was so confused when I saw your reply. I don't remember what I wrote at all. I can't believe it was 5 years ago. What I meant was a unified national ID system like a lot of countries have. You use it to vote, board planes, pay taxes, buy properties, get married etc. In the US there are various federal IDs that people can apply for, but it's not mandatory and as part of your life).
@@lixiaochen6 I'm not disagreeing with you. The U.S. is trying to implement a national standard Real-ID for driver's licenses based on birth certificates, but you still go through the state.
I think that some form of ID should be required at voting stations, but good god if you bring a whole stack of ID and they still don't get to vote...what in the blue hell is up with that!?
If 25% of Blacks don't have driver's license (or equivalent) and 8% of Whites don't, then to Republicans it's worth losing 1-8 votes for the Democrats to lose 10-25.
Now, _South Carolina_ seems to be a particularly nasty place to try to get state-issued photo ID. First, if you were born there, they don't want to give you a copy of your birth certificate. No birth certificate = no photo ID. It seems you have to hire a lawyer to get your birth certificate, or find one willing to work pro bono. One of the Black guys who testified in NC Superior Court against the voter ID amendment was in that situation; he couldn't get his birth certificate to get valid ID.
It's easy to get a ID card just go to a motor vehicle with you so social security number and few pieces of mail
As someone who has polled Americans about photo ID laws for yrs, I also come to the conclusion that Dems are in the minority. Public support for ID laws hasn't waned over the past decade, even as Democrats have hammered at them. I think the rank-and-file Americans have experience times when you have to prove myself and I have to do these really hard things, and if somebody can't do those things, then that's just too bad. Americans want people to show IDs to vote
1. Boarding an airplane
2. Writing a check
3. Cashing a check
4. Using a credit card
5. Driving a motor vehicle
6. Applying for a business license
7. Securing employment
8. Purchasing a house or real estate
9. Renting a domicile
10. Renting a motor vehicle
11. Purchasing a firearm (Includes BB guns)
12. Applying for a hunting license
13. Applying for a fishing license
14. Purchasing alcoholic beverages
15. Purchasing tobacco or products that contain nicotine
16. Purchasing a motor vehicle
17. Initial registration of a motor vehicle
18. Applying for a building permit
19. Receiving prescription medicine
20. Purchasing OTC medicine that contains pseudoephedrine
21. Serving on jury duty
22. Getting a bank account
23. Cash transactions of $5000.00 or greater
24. Dealing with the Social Security office
25. Unemployment benefits
26. Welfare
27. Food stamps
28. WIC
29. Section 8 housing
30. Obamacare
31. Medicare
32. Medicaid
But showing ID to vote is just fucking insane... (even though you are already engaging in one or more of theses activities that you shown your ID for)
Why is ID laws such a discussion in the US? Here in Sweden and most other countries around the world, you have to show ID as proof of who you are and we definitely don't call it voter suppression. I can't really see the issue of having to prove who you are and your age when voting. Link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_Identification_laws
Thank you for pointing out how ridiculous it is there aren't nationwide voted ID laws in the US
Yes, it is very reasonable to ask and makes complete sense. It has been construed in our country as an issue of "voter suppression" (largely by the Democratic party) because it behooves them.
Their argument is that requiring an ID (and it can be more than just a driver's license) is too much of a financial hurdle for very poor people. They also like to toss in minority groups to the mix as being so "disenfranchised" that they can't afford an ID or figure out where the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) is to get one.
The problem is as follows:
1. A driver's license is actually very cheap- a one time fee of $35 in my state
2. For non-drivers, there is a simple ID card with a similar fee, but they can be offered at a reduced rate or even for FREE to those who can't afford it. They even have a lower fee for the elderly.
If there was any sincerity in the claim that voter suppression was a concern, we would simply make it easier to get an ID instead of denying their use altogether. Perhaps we could (just off the top of my head):
1. Make a select office of the DMV only to process new ID's
2. Allow additional government institutions to create and process ID's
3. Make more of the ID application process available online (not all of that process is possible, of course)
It's all very simple and it's all very reasonable to ask of people, as most American adults will look at you like you are an alien if you tell them you live your fellow American adult life without any form of identification. Considering the majority of the citizenry who can legally vote has ID's, this really should be a non-issue and should result in no more than a stream-lining of ID distribution.
I read your neighbor, friend or relative can vouch for you if you forgot to bring your ID, in Sweden. Also in Sweden if you're a resident alien for 3 years, you can vote in local elections. Republicans would lose their minds if a state in the US allowed that!