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  • @LadyDecade
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    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa 2 месяца назад

      SonicSmile.EXE

    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa 2 месяца назад +2

      The captions said his name as "Neck Eye Armor" instead of Nakayama

    • @derikguimaraes
      @derikguimaraes 2 месяца назад

      I registered but I can't find how to "WIN a game" of my choice

    • @underwearskids1
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  • @arvinrunstein5707
    @arvinrunstein5707 2 месяца назад +21

    Boy would that tactic not work on me. Your ass is paying me to do nothing till I die, Sega!

  • @hermes_job_observer144
    @hermes_job_observer144 2 месяца назад +19

    "SEGA: The Backrooms" someone please make this spin-off as a 1st person, liminal space game that takes us from 8-bit (Master System) to the 128-bit (Dreamcast) era!

  • @NOISEONOMICON
    @NOISEONOMICON 2 месяца назад +30

    those rooms should have been ILLEEEEEEEEEGAL!!!!!

    • @DustinBarlow8P
      @DustinBarlow8P 2 месяца назад +2

      Why? They aren't robots, if you put them in an empty room and they just sit there and stare at the wall, that is on them. If they put me in an empty room I am rolling a recliner in there and I will get a lap desk! (Desk that sits on your lap.

    • @charaznable8072
      @charaznable8072 Месяц назад +1

      What law are they breaking? Name just one.

  • @madkabal
    @madkabal 2 месяца назад +48

    maybe that old marketing sound of a crazy guy saying "SEGA!!🤪" was really an employee being recorded after they lost their mind...

  • @haruhisuzumiya6650
    @haruhisuzumiya6650 2 месяца назад +16

    Segagaga has lots of references to worker mistreatment
    And Nakayama was at loggerheads with kalinsky

  • @huntercoleherr
    @huntercoleherr 2 месяца назад +41

    Same as it ever was. The Company demands your loyalty, but offers you none.

    • @ordohereticus3427
      @ordohereticus3427 2 месяца назад +2

      The “benefits” of extremely uneven power dynamics.

    • @Marmite101
      @Marmite101 2 месяца назад

      Employers vs Employees

  • @thepeternetwork
    @thepeternetwork 2 месяца назад +32

    The fact that Nakayama saw no consequences for his actions made this tale more sinister than usual.
    Moral of video: Never work in Japan.

    • @singletona082
      @singletona082 2 месяца назад +6

      As a reminder: The megacorps of the cyberpunk genre are modeled after japanese corporate culture when they thought they would be masters of the universe.

    • @huntercoleherr
      @huntercoleherr 2 месяца назад

      Trust Fund babies seizing brutal control of corporations is by no means a Japan-only phenomenon.

    • @ordohereticus3427
      @ordohereticus3427 2 месяца назад +5

      Exactly. There is little to idealise about Japan when it comes to daily productivity and purpose. It’s entirely a punishing grind and unsustainable.

    • @Marmite101
      @Marmite101 2 месяца назад

      ​@@ordohereticus3427welcome to employment

  • @ChaoticHoly
    @ChaoticHoly 2 месяца назад +10

    So...the creepy-pasta story is based on SEGA. Fits.

    • @Jshaw71
      @Jshaw71 Месяц назад

      Was backrooms based on Sega?

  • @singletona082
    @singletona082 2 месяца назад +3

    Not the first or only company I've heard of doing this as way to both preserve an on paper image of having never fired an employee/put the shame of quitting on an employee as well as sidestepping having to pay out benefits/compensation. It is a horrifying practice.
    I have never understood the salaryman concept. Showing that much loyalty to an entity that shows none to you in return or will do more than replace you if you do not give your life in full and total to being an ant ready to be crushed for their bottom line.

  • @ericm215
    @ericm215 2 месяца назад +4

    Most companies dont have enough workers😂

  • @remelin75
    @remelin75 2 месяца назад +3

    I remember reading in the 90s about a Sega boss doing a commercial sent on TV that showed how bad of a boss he was. In the commercial he was running in the rain, grabbing his hair in pure anguish at how he could have made such extremely bad decisions. They had lots of screenshots of this "commercial". It has to be somewhere. Seems like a rare video of something that only could have taken place in Japan. Would be interesting if anyone could confirm this or find the video. I'll see if I can find the computer magazine that had this article about the video. The name of the Swedish computer magazine was "Interface".

  • @drunkymcasshol3
    @drunkymcasshol3 2 месяца назад +4

    It's almost as if torturing human beings is a...dare I say...poor idea. 🤔

  • @johnpenguinthe3rd13
    @johnpenguinthe3rd13 2 месяца назад +4

    This information sadly makes the Sega Civil War (Sega of America vs Sega of Japan) that was happening behind the scenes at the time make more sense. Sega of Japan was definitely the antagonist during all the multiple incidents during that behind the scenes Sega Civil War and these secret backrooms that they were doing to their own Sega of Japan employees just adds another layer of insanity behind all of it. Also, thank goodness the Fallout series wasn't around for most of the 90's and wasn't that well known at the end of the 90's. If it was, I could see Sega of Japan creating VAULTS and doing Vault-Tec like experiments on their employees that they punish and decide temporarily banish to the vaults. LOL. Sounds insane, but it's not to far fetched to think that they would put a single employee in a vault and surround them with nothing but literal PUPPETS for weeks in an attempt to use psychological warfare on them (like what Vault-Tec did in Vault 77 to one guy in the Fallout series who was locked up all by himself with a bunch of literal puppets. It drove him insane, psychologically turning him into "Puppet Man". Sega of Japan would pull a Vault-Tec on their employees).

    • @MaoRatto
      @MaoRatto 2 месяца назад +2

      Sega of Jp is one of the few JP sides of a company I hate. I normally side with JP and not the USA, but it is sad.

  • @mekman4
    @mekman4 2 месяца назад +1

    Great Stuff, as always!

  • @cemsengul16
    @cemsengul16 2 месяца назад

    Wow this was very informative. You don't want to end up in Sega's backroom. This sounds like it would be a great horror movie.

  • @shayoko6
    @shayoko6 Месяц назад +1

    i expected something more recent that 1990s news.

  • @axe6279
    @axe6279 2 месяца назад

    Lol that intro. I want it on all Sega games from here on in!

  • @vicgc96
    @vicgc96 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks to them Nintendo got their go-to developers for Mario tennis and golf, not sure if it's true, but Camelot's last game for SEGA had a rant calling them out if you manage to crack down its files.

  • @EMdemo
    @EMdemo 2 месяца назад

    Is this re-uploaded?

  • @songoku9348
    @songoku9348 2 месяца назад +2

    Lady Decade is going dark. 😈

  • @Professor-of-Gaming
    @Professor-of-Gaming 2 месяца назад

    the infamous "Backrooms" on youtube are just the leftover Sega offices

  • @DustinBarlow8P
    @DustinBarlow8P 2 месяца назад

    Sega not releasing their Saturn library on Steam has shown me what monsters they are.

  • @therealmercury
    @therealmercury 2 месяца назад +4

    I guess Sega does what Nintendon't...😅

  • @greenkoopa
    @greenkoopa 2 месяца назад

    Great video LD 👏👏🐢

    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa 2 месяца назад

      100 hearts
      I just leveled up 🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢

  • @MegamanNG
    @MegamanNG 2 месяца назад

    Who would have thought that SoA's succeeding with the Genesis would bring an animosity that would end up dooming them. If only the two sides can learn to put their differences aside and actually do what's best.

  • @finncapistrano9879
    @finncapistrano9879 2 месяца назад +1

    Somebody book Upper Echelon and Rev Does Desu about this video, this was top-class, non-bias video right there!

  • @bluewolf8873
    @bluewolf8873 2 месяца назад

    This was very interesting. As a person who was grounded A LOT as a child I get the concept. ( not agree.. but understand.) As a child my mind would run wild with imagination.. simply because I had nothing to do but look at the 4 walls of my room.

  • @TheLastLineLive
    @TheLastLineLive 2 месяца назад

    Great look into this, never knew about it. Iirc though The Genesis Does campaign wasn’t under Kalinski’s watch but it was under Michael Katz, he stepped in after Katz left, just a minor nitpick.

  • @ensabahnur7657
    @ensabahnur7657 2 месяца назад +2

    Japanese Employees go through so much I'm surprised there hasn't been a civil wsr decades ago!

    • @haywoodjablome440
      @haywoodjablome440 2 месяца назад

      They don't have the nut for it.
      All the nuts were lost decades ago in the war.
      All that remains are subs that like to fantasize.

  • @aaronpriestley1500
    @aaronpriestley1500 2 месяца назад

    who would have thought blast processing means faster processer vs the graphics accelerator inside snes carts, and sonic in the backrooms just makes since :P.

    • @MaoRatto
      @MaoRatto 2 месяца назад

      SENSE* NOT SCENTS OR SINCE.

  • @KevTheGalaxybender
    @KevTheGalaxybender 2 месяца назад

    Your into scared me at 3AM

  • @krisfrederick5001
    @krisfrederick5001 2 месяца назад +4

    They were called the "Console Wars" after all...

  • @DCMCOSPLAYdotCOM
    @DCMCOSPLAYdotCOM 2 месяца назад

    That scanline filter is awful. Its even worse when it collides with video that has actual scanlines. Talk to Gamesack about maybe getting his scanline filter.

  • @DustinBarlow8P
    @DustinBarlow8P 2 месяца назад

    If my boss put me in a room with nothing to do but sit there and be bored, I would weap tears of joy. I would kiss his feet and thank him. Being bored after working a 6 day 13 hour a day work week is a god send. Remember kids when stupid people say they want the minimum wage to be highered those same stupid people just get fired, and competent workers, have more to do with less workers to do it with. Usually end up havign to do 5 seperate peoples jobs for one persons salary.

  • @ArtureliaStudio
    @ArtureliaStudio 2 месяца назад

    I also thought Konami did something similar.

  • @EddieGaster
    @EddieGaster 2 месяца назад +2

    Didn't she already do a video on this?

  • @fan1701
    @fan1701 2 месяца назад

    Sounds like they needed to just go find new jobs. If a company treats me bad I'd walk away in a heartbeat.

    • @wtfsamusidk7574
      @wtfsamusidk7574 2 месяца назад

      Your supposed to work the same job all your life in Japan

  • @szaporta
    @szaporta 2 месяца назад

    "Rules and conformity for thee, but not for me" - Hayao Nakayama, probably.

  • @livewiretune25
    @livewiretune25 2 месяца назад

    Irony, every time I hear this story, I'm reminded of the creepy easter egg on the Sonic CD that seem to tell the story of the hell. But that itself is no such intent and I don't want to make it sound too bad since the creator himself is still tweeting today on X in good spirits😅 たのしさ∞...

  • @torshec8634
    @torshec8634 2 месяца назад

    Good to know it wasn't just idiotic infighting, out of touch suits, dumb business decisions, and being behind trends that killed Sega's Console lead, being an absolute soulless company helped.

  • @kizunadragon9
    @kizunadragon9 2 месяца назад +1

    This speaks less about Sega individually and more about Japanese corporate culture. Japanese companies will do almost anything to avoid firing people. The philosophy that when you take on an employee you take them on basically for their whole career for good and bad. Under performing employees are often subjected to mistreatment to "encourage" improvement. Happens across the majorities of companies in Japan.

  • @marcosdgonzalez5270
    @marcosdgonzalez5270 2 месяца назад +1

    Like all companyes like nintendo sony and microsoft...

  • @emperortrevornorton3119
    @emperortrevornorton3119 2 месяца назад

    Sega kinda always been associated with weirdos and creeps but hey they had the unedited original Mortal Kombat trilogy games

  • @DethMetalGuitars
    @DethMetalGuitars 2 месяца назад

    Lol just saw the email. While I love CRTs, when simulated scan lines are not scaled perfectly they can become distracting. Love the aesthetic as an idea, and it did not keep me from enjoying the video lol

  • @kalmtraveler
    @kalmtraveler 2 месяца назад

    love the grey lines and 'old' look!

  • @MatMadikPCA
    @MatMadikPCA 2 месяца назад +1

    You're brilliant, Lady Decade!!!

  • @user-bk3pl8bn7e
    @user-bk3pl8bn7e 2 месяца назад +1

    yeah I remember my ww2 history, not surprised.

  • @Ali-ii8il
    @Ali-ii8il 2 месяца назад +1

    sega should of arrest the clowns at paramount who made the awful knuckles show

  • @cyphaborg6598
    @cyphaborg6598 2 месяца назад

    That could explain why Sega had such a weird period with add-ons and the Genesis (32X,CD) The toilet.
    Hmm what if employees did that on purpose?. (literally saying it's shit)I actually never had a single Sega product, not because I suspected something or anything
    it just wasn't a company that stood out to me, they were much worse it seems lol.

  • @iAmCyberwaste
    @iAmCyberwaste 2 месяца назад

    Oh that opening made my skin crawl, just like me as a kid. Just like remembering the state of Sega now.

  • @j.goggels9115
    @j.goggels9115 2 месяца назад

    Fun Fact !
    Isao Okawa is listed as a producer in Samba de Amigo's opening credits.
    But why ?

  • @jessicarie-tp6ti
    @jessicarie-tp6ti 2 месяца назад

    suddenly..... i felt the need of a horror movie "Mickey mouse Vs Sonic The Hegdehog"

  • @Gamers_of_Oz
    @Gamers_of_Oz Месяц назад

    I came back to this video after someone complaining of the CRT lines and not remembering I thought I would watch again. I dont see a issue it fits what the video is about the history of SEGA a company that raised during the CRT era and fell with the CRT era, like the [phosphorus glow we grew to love it fell with it. Another well documented and entertaining video😁

  • @williamoverton7775
    @williamoverton7775 2 месяца назад

    the episode I'd like to see is the robin hood episode about the japanese that started stealing the second sony announced and why they kept getting away till it was gone. good stuff amazing organization among them. the real reason is because it was all carried out by rank and file nobodies and the executors didn't care because they knew the fund capital was no longer being supported in advance and were wealthy enough to not care if anyone called them failures. some have speculated a connection but there is no such connection the ones that divided that bag to a thousand sets of hands used the force and magicked insights about as evidenced by Japanese legal system responses to foreign allegations of wrongdoing. but more than that apparent economic division between the administrators themselves. just the fastest guns opening fire from lower management. slowly over several years in peripheral markups arranged by small business providers of things etc etc.

  • @adamclark9552
    @adamclark9552 2 месяца назад +1

    Who came here after reading "that" email

  • @BassPlay3r
    @BassPlay3r 2 месяца назад

    Back in the day those lines were state of the art

  • @polarfamily6222
    @polarfamily6222 2 месяца назад +39

    So Sega is essentially a black company. Shame on them.

    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa 2 месяца назад +10

      You're the second one who said that, what's a black company?

    • @polarfamily6222
      @polarfamily6222 2 месяца назад +23

      ​​​@@greenkoopalike sweatshop but worse. It's a common phrase used in Japan for those types of businesses.

    • @Gametester110-qf8vs
      @Gametester110-qf8vs 2 месяца назад +14

      Nintendo isn't much better. The guy that invented the Legendary GameBoy was also behind the failure of the Virtual Boy. Despite helming one of the Greatest successes in Nintendo's history, they buried the dude after the Virtual Boy. Evidently nintendo is a company that doesn't forgive failure in ANY measure, regardless of past successes.

    • @WarrenGdog28
      @WarrenGdog28 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@polarfamily6222 ohh

    • @scottpilgrim2
      @scottpilgrim2 2 месяца назад +3

      Idk i had some friends with friends at sega that are black and only have good things to say about them. But sega of japan might be a tad bit different than the sega of usa they're speaking of.

  • @daryljr5361
    @daryljr5361 2 месяца назад

    I love your details but also that background music at about a minute into the video ❤😊

    • @LadyDecade
      @LadyDecade  2 месяца назад +1

      Thank you very much x

    • @daryljr5361
      @daryljr5361 2 месяца назад

      @@LadyDecade you are so welcome

  • @bubblegumgun3292
    @bubblegumgun3292 2 месяца назад

    the Japanese model is very mafia like at times, like yakuza but for kids entertainment rather than drugs

  • @physalis17
    @physalis17 2 месяца назад

    So apparently RUclips doesn't like me talking about Chris Senn. My comment with source of what he went through on Sonic Extreme was deleted. 🤷

  • @jackofallgamesTV
    @jackofallgamesTV 2 месяца назад

    You kind of jumped from 1979 to 1983 pretty quickly. You did not mention that Sega was an American company primarily when they bought that portion that was nearly added 1979, and that 1983 was the year that Paramount sold Sega to these Japanese interests most likely one of them being from that venture capital company.
    Also in Sega was an American company they didn't want to do their own system instead they were out licensing their products to Coleco and making Atari 5200 games on their own.

  • @PokerFart
    @PokerFart 2 месяца назад +3

    I would have spent all that free time in the back rooms watching RUclips videos, and trolling the comment sections.😂

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz 2 месяца назад

      Yeah in an era when youtube didn't exist... you aren't the smartest cookie are you?

    • @szaporta
      @szaporta 2 месяца назад

      @@thomgizziz that's what Solitaire is for. Backroom time still well-spent.

  • @jamespasquini-aquaro4600
    @jamespasquini-aquaro4600 2 месяца назад

    I'd bring a Game Boy in and just play that all day

  • @ripplecutter233
    @ripplecutter233 2 месяца назад

    Watched more than 5 seconds of this video, the alternating gray lines were a nice touch!

  • @daryljr5361
    @daryljr5361 2 месяца назад

    No wonder sega fell off the rails

  • @Ash-nh6li
    @Ash-nh6li 2 месяца назад

    Ai? Not you too

  • @paer76
    @paer76 2 месяца назад

    Konami does the same 💩

  • @JGreen-le8xx
    @JGreen-le8xx 2 месяца назад +2

    Lady Decade!❤❤❤❤❤❤😊

  • @dantron69k
    @dantron69k Месяц назад

    Another fantastic, informative and entertaining video! Thank you!

  • @harrisonallen651
    @harrisonallen651 2 месяца назад

    Sonic Prison

  • @napoleonfeanor
    @napoleonfeanor 2 месяца назад

    Bring some books and a sleeping bag ;)

  • @triniborn76
    @triniborn76 2 месяца назад

    Sega does what Nintendont.

  • @chrisumali9841
    @chrisumali9841 Месяц назад

    Thanks for the demo and info, Another great content and video, have a great day

  • @MazterP28
    @MazterP28 2 месяца назад +1

    Are you selling any of your sega Saturn games?

  • @RetroEvilHunk341
    @RetroEvilHunk341 2 месяца назад +10

    Sounds more like the "Nintendo Headquarters" 😀😀

    • @haruhisuzumiya6650
      @haruhisuzumiya6650 2 месяца назад +4

      Nintendo actually has great working standards it's more if you were a contractor working for NOA and NOE.but it's more likely NOA as EU has regulations

    • @RetroEvilHunk341
      @RetroEvilHunk341 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@haruhisuzumiya6650It's a joke

    • @user-nr2cs2rq7h
      @user-nr2cs2rq7h 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@RetroEvilHunk341So?

  • @NetBattler
    @NetBattler 2 месяца назад +1

    Sega,the most scummy company ever.

    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa 2 месяца назад

      Tommy Tallarico: hold my Amico controller

  • @user-mt4zr5kp7h
    @user-mt4zr5kp7h 2 месяца назад +1

    I miss those days. Say what you will, games were way more fun then.

  • @noahalcantar2431
    @noahalcantar2431 2 месяца назад

    Mario should give Sonic the middle finger after this happened despite the fact that Mario is a hypocrite.

  • @godoftwinkies574
    @godoftwinkies574 2 месяца назад

    Still better than Nike's Chinese sweat shops.

  • @skycloud4802
    @skycloud4802 2 месяца назад

    Damn, just after reading about how Sega helped save Nvidia from financial ruin too. Guess there's always a dark side to a light one

  • @arcadeutopia3035
    @arcadeutopia3035 2 месяца назад +3

    And that's why Sega was the Goat of the 90s 😅

    • @MaoRatto
      @MaoRatto 2 месяца назад

      You are a goat.

  • @JohnnyProctor9
    @JohnnyProctor9 Месяц назад

    Micro$oft is the new $ega...

  • @mikesilva3868
    @mikesilva3868 2 месяца назад

    Great 😊

  • @dblackburn81071
    @dblackburn81071 2 месяца назад

    Your going to pay me to do nothing O.K. and I would not feal bad about it either

  • @WlmaAlexender-zl6nx
    @WlmaAlexender-zl6nx 2 месяца назад

    I like Sonic, but refuse to fund human suffering.

  • @hoodknewz4890
    @hoodknewz4890 2 месяца назад

    Thanks!

    • @LadyDecade
      @LadyDecade  2 месяца назад

      Thank you so much, very generous x

  • @hoodknewz4890
    @hoodknewz4890 2 месяца назад

    I really do care about my people. Lady Decade, Top Hat, those my folx. Be nice. You don't edit shit. I like scan lines. I'm looking up upscalers right now

  • @BowsettesFury
    @BowsettesFury 2 месяца назад +2

    But if everyone suffered then they would know what was wrong, and not support the Woke crowd.

  • @daviddamasceno6063
    @daviddamasceno6063 2 месяца назад +1

    Makes sense that only a malevolent soul like our dark lord Yuji Naka would thrive in such enviroment.

  • @masayoshsato7906
    @masayoshsato7906 2 месяца назад

    Nice

  • @warlockpaladin2261
    @warlockpaladin2261 2 месяца назад

    Scanlines. 😒

  • @EpicFurbynerd76YO
    @EpicFurbynerd76YO 2 месяца назад

    damn now I have even more respect for Sega of America

  • @antdah
    @antdah 2 месяца назад

    Isolating people in unfurnished rooms sounds horrible, but if SEGA really wanted to torture their employees they should have just forced them to use the European _Saturn_ controller.

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 2 месяца назад

    How _NEGATIVE CORPORATE AMERICA_ of them...🤦‍♂️

  • @filthymcnasty5625
    @filthymcnasty5625 2 месяца назад +7

    The dark side of humans.

    • @iSTEFIXi
      @iSTEFIXi 2 месяца назад

      🤣 not even closr

    • @filthymcnasty5625
      @filthymcnasty5625 2 месяца назад

      @@iSTEFIXi you don't know the human simian do you, primate.

  • @Marmite101
    @Marmite101 2 месяца назад

    Ok, I call BS click bait

  • @BaneMcDeath
    @BaneMcDeath 2 месяца назад

    I can't thumbs up this video because it makes me sad. :'(. Why SEGA WHY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! 😱😧💔😥😓

  • @greenkoopa
    @greenkoopa 2 месяца назад +1

    🐢

    • @LadyDecade
      @LadyDecade  2 месяца назад +1

      I really hope you like this video Koop

    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@LadyDecade I'd heard a similar tale maybe 10 years ago 🤔

  • @DarDarBinks1986
    @DarDarBinks1986 2 месяца назад

    Japan's overwork culture is toxic as hell. Hopefully things have changed since then, though. But workers are not drones. They're human beings!