I think its his tragic fate - people are forever trying to find traces of his mental illness in his music, calling it unbalanced, excessive or overly emotional. Yet it is "romantic" in its finest form - emotional yes - but finely crafted, melodic and warm - be it his Symphonies, his piano-works or his concertos. Thank you for bringing this up!
Good question. Maybe the original poster "loganfruchtman" didn't really mean "hate" in its hostile form, but maybe "loving less" than other symph composers in the LvB class. I don't agree with his adjective "underrated" since all the four are being performed by all great orchestras in their regular repertoire.@@Canufindnow
@@Canufindnow Probably people who did not make an effort to understand him. I love his works, & his wife's, in part because I appreciate some of the feelings which propelled them. His violin concerto is a study of obsession & frustration. Most people whose mental health is declining are very aware of it & typically find little help, relief or understanding.
My favorite Schumann symphony played by what has become my favorite orchestra, regardless of the identity or gender of theconductor. I first came to know the piece through a Klemperer LP back in the 1970's. As always in the big German works, he really laid down the law. Much slower than here, but with that kind of power that only he could bring. My tastes have evolved since, and I've come to prefer it as here, and especially as performed by these musicians.
Wieder einmal ein magisches Erlebnis. Die 4te klingt frisch und lebhaft - die Tempis waren straff und dynamisch, die Melodienbögen fein hervorgehoben. DAs hr-SO war wieder in bestechender Form - das Dirigat einfühlsam und makellos. Gerne mehr mit Fr. Bihlmaier. Und wie stets - ein Sonderlob für Kameraführung und Soundregie! Das einzige was ich nicht verstehe sind die wenigen "likes" - unverständlich bei einer sehr guten Leistung. Fröhliche Feiertage!
Lebhafte und wunderschöne Aufführung dieser romantischen und einzigartig komponierten Sinfonie mit gut vereinigten und perfekt entsprechenden Tönen aller Instrumente. Der zweite Satz klingt besonders schön und echt melodisch. Im Kontrast klingt der dritte Satz echt lebhaft und auch beweglich. Endlich kommt der großartige letzte Satz voller Bewegung und Begeisterung. Die intelligente und geniale Dirigentin leitet das ausgezeichnete Orchester im relativ schnellen Tempo und mit möglichst effektiver Dynamik. Einfach wundervoll!
ECHT gut und 1fach... yesssss - WUNNERVOLL. Schööne Feiertage und e guude Rutsch, bitte rutschfrei. Sonderlob für Alejandro Rutkauscas - Höre soeben sein feines Konzertmeister-Solo im 1. Satz.
Erdige Interpretation dieser deutschen doch perfekt komponierten Sinfonie durch die erfahrene Dirigentin und das perfekt aufeinander abgestimmte hr-Sinfonieorchester mit seidigen Tönen der Streicher, farbenreichen Tönen der Holzbläser und betörenden Klängen der Blechbläser und Pauken. Danke fürs Onlinestellen!
Qui dit que Schumann n’est pas un maître ? C’est un des plus grands compositeurs romantiques!!! Et cet orchestre de Francfort est un des plus brillants que je connaisse et admire!!!
As a hobby orchestra player: To the professionals. How do you recognize anything in the conducting of Anja Bihlmaier? I can bareley see the counting times of the bars in her conducting. Are you guys not needing those? As a drummer and percussionist I would surely mishit every stroke, if she was my conductor.
Eu passei entender a estética sinfônica de Schumann quando li que elas seguem a "lógica" da última de Schubert, a grande, e não as de Beethoven. Sei que cada obra vale por si, mas acho esse dado relevante.
Apparently there's no such thing as a lousy orchestra in Germany. This is an area where the German notoriously meticulous attention to detail is amply rewarded. Anscheinend gibt es in Deutschland so etwas wie ein lausiges Orchester nicht. Dies ist ein Bereich, in dem die deutsche berüchtigte Liebe zum Detail reichlich belohnt wird.
call me old-fashioned (I'm a young person in my 30's) but i'm still getting used to seeing a woman symphonic conductor on the podium in this post-Covid world we live in. I firmly belive in meritocracy and not trophy based on gender or race.
I shall check with my own score but I guess my impression has to do with the unusual balance between strings and other sections of the orchestra. This may come from the quite unusually low number of strings is (probably around forty) or from the sound recording.
The recording balance is simply not right. There is a spot microphone on the flutes and oboes that is turned up too loud. There is no way the flutes should be drowning out the violins, but there are times when they do just that. Never mind that they are magnificent wind players, they need to be heard in proper context of the full orchestra. So far as I can tell, the performance meets the usual high standard of this orchestra, but the faulty balance is quite annoying.
I don’t get why people hate Schumann he’s a great composer and a master of his craft. His symphonies are very underrated
Very much agreed:)
I think its his tragic fate - people are forever trying to find traces of his mental illness in his music, calling it unbalanced, excessive or overly emotional. Yet it is "romantic" in its finest form - emotional yes - but finely crafted, melodic and warm - be it his Symphonies, his piano-works or his concertos. Thank you for bringing this up!
Who hates schumann?
Good question. Maybe the original poster "loganfruchtman" didn't really mean "hate" in its hostile form, but maybe "loving less" than other symph composers in the LvB class. I don't agree with his adjective "underrated" since all the four are being performed by all great orchestras in their regular repertoire.@@Canufindnow
@@Canufindnow Probably people who did not make an effort to understand him. I love his works, & his wife's, in part because I appreciate some of the feelings which propelled them. His violin concerto is a study of obsession & frustration. Most people whose mental health is declining are very aware of it & typically find little help, relief or understanding.
My favorite Schumann symphony played by what has become my favorite orchestra, regardless of the identity or gender of theconductor. I first came to know the piece through a Klemperer LP back in the 1970's. As always in the big German works, he really laid down the law. Much slower than here, but with that kind of power that only he could bring. My tastes have evolved since, and I've come to prefer it as here, and especially as performed by these musicians.
As always, a fine and enjoyable performance by my favorite orchestra to listen to on RUclips.
The piece that made me fall in love with music - particularly symphonies in D minor!
Wieder einmal ein magisches Erlebnis. Die 4te klingt frisch und lebhaft - die Tempis waren straff und dynamisch, die Melodienbögen fein hervorgehoben. DAs hr-SO war wieder in bestechender Form - das Dirigat einfühlsam und makellos. Gerne mehr mit Fr. Bihlmaier. Und wie stets - ein Sonderlob für Kameraführung und Soundregie! Das einzige was ich nicht verstehe sind die wenigen "likes" - unverständlich bei einer sehr guten Leistung. Fröhliche Feiertage!
What a wonderful conductor Anja Bihlmaier is to not only recognize the principals but also the entire sections of the orchestra.
When u conduct this orchestra principals are ALWAYS RECOGNIZED..
@@davidparrish2534 THANKS FOR SHOUTING OUT!
Her outfit makes her look like a circus ringmaster.
Ihr Outfit lässt sie aussehen wie einen Zirkusdirektor.
Lebhafte und wunderschöne Aufführung dieser romantischen und einzigartig komponierten Sinfonie mit gut vereinigten und perfekt entsprechenden Tönen aller Instrumente. Der zweite Satz klingt besonders schön und echt melodisch. Im Kontrast klingt der dritte Satz echt lebhaft und auch beweglich. Endlich kommt der großartige letzte Satz voller Bewegung und Begeisterung. Die intelligente und geniale Dirigentin leitet das ausgezeichnete Orchester im relativ schnellen Tempo und mit möglichst effektiver Dynamik. Einfach wundervoll!
ECHT gut und 1fach... yesssss - WUNNERVOLL. Schööne Feiertage und e guude Rutsch, bitte rutschfrei. Sonderlob für Alejandro Rutkauscas - Höre soeben sein feines Konzertmeister-Solo im 1. Satz.
What a wonderful, beautiful performance of one of my favorite symphonies!
Magnificencia ! Infinitas gracias.
Genial y deliciosa música.tenia que ser de un grande como Robert S.
Very nicely and enthusiastically detailed
I hear bassoons well very much
Erdige Interpretation dieser deutschen doch perfekt komponierten Sinfonie durch die erfahrene Dirigentin und das perfekt aufeinander abgestimmte hr-Sinfonieorchester mit seidigen Tönen der Streicher, farbenreichen Tönen der Holzbläser und betörenden Klängen der Blechbläser und Pauken. Danke fürs Onlinestellen!
Notaires Zweitaccount ?
Notaires kommen selten solo@@dieterhaller3337
Das schöne, Monsieur Notaire findet zu den betörenden Klängen fast immer die betörend perfekten Worte.
Bin so froh dass der Notairestil endlich ein Meme wird
@@hansjuergenkohlhaas871
Und ich dachte schon, es handle sich um ([nicht] allzu perfekt, sprich durchschaubare) KI-Kommentare ... 😂🎉
amazing performance!!
Very nice ❤🎉
Magnífico 💕💕
bravo ""
Excelente versión. Buena dirección. Bravo
Qui dit que Schumann n’est pas un maître ? C’est un des plus grands compositeurs romantiques!!!
Et cet orchestre de Francfort est un des plus brillants que je connaisse et admire!!!
11:18 that flute stare though!
❤ excellent
Hermoso, como si fueran tres timbres seguidos, que suenan para despertar el alma
well paced and very musical. doesn't pull the music around like some modern conductors
Marvellous.
Brava Maestra!
The color of the coat of conductor keeps reminding me Newton in Fantastic Beasts...
4. Sinfonie d-Moll op. 120 ∙
I. Ziemlich langsam - Lebhaft 00:00 ∙
II. Romanze. Ziemlich langsam 10:16 ∙
III. Scherzo. Lebhaft 13:55 ∙
IV. Langsam - Lebhaft - Presto 19:12 ∙
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As a hobby orchestra player: To the professionals. How do you recognize anything in the conducting of Anja Bihlmaier?
I can bareley see the counting times of the bars in her conducting. Are you guys not needing those? As a drummer and percussionist I would surely mishit every stroke, if she was my conductor.
Eu passei entender a estética sinfônica de Schumann quando li que elas seguem a "lógica" da última de Schubert, a grande, e não as de Beethoven. Sei que cada obra vale por si, mas acho esse dado relevante.
Apparently there's no such thing as a lousy orchestra in Germany. This is an area where the German notoriously meticulous attention to detail is amply rewarded.
Anscheinend gibt es in Deutschland so etwas wie ein lausiges Orchester nicht. Dies ist ein Bereich, in dem die deutsche berüchtigte Liebe zum Detail reichlich belohnt wird.
23:30 18:30 19:40
call me old-fashioned (I'm a young person in my 30's) but i'm still getting used to seeing a woman symphonic conductor on the podium in this post-Covid world we live in.
I firmly belive in meritocracy and not trophy based on gender or race.
What is your point?
@@paulkoza8652 MY POINT IS... we are living in a WOKE post-pandemic world where EVERYONE gets a trophy regardless of merit.
@@papagen00 You've been brainwashed.
Just sounds like you’re sexist, my guy.
She is a very good conductor. Period.
I wonder if it is Schumann's own orchestration
I shall check with my own score but I guess my impression has to do with the unusual balance between strings and other sections of the orchestra. This may come from the quite unusually low number of strings is (probably around forty) or from the sound recording.
The recording balance is simply not right. There is a spot microphone on the flutes and oboes that is turned up too loud. There is no way the flutes should be drowning out the violins, but there are times when they do just that. Never mind that they are magnificent wind players, they need to be heard in proper context of the full orchestra. So far as I can tell, the performance meets the usual high standard of this orchestra, but the faulty balance is quite annoying.
画像いらなくね?
Pessimo. Tutto di corsa...
Alcuni tempi un po' spinti ma la cura dei dettagli è eccellente, una lettura veramente fresca per questo capolavoro.
Boring
If you think it’s boring, why did you even watch it
Because he loves this symphony, I guess.@@dasportsfan2122
I also think it was boring.. I think most of Schumann"s music is as well. I don't know why he's so well rated.
That’s real cancel culture right there.
@@nealbaker7991 Stop hating on Schumann, he’s really good