Schumann: Violinkonzert ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Sayaka Shoji ∙ Constantinos Carydis

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  • Опубликовано: 3 фев 2025

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  • @lugo196234
    @lugo196234 9 месяцев назад +18

    This violinist is one of those who transmit something. He has such a warm, high-flying sound that is the best there is today.

  • @TAKIN-kn5rh
    @TAKIN-kn5rh 10 месяцев назад +23

    The most convincing version of this concerto. Great.

  • @shin-i-chikozima
    @shin-i-chikozima 10 месяцев назад +15

    Just listening to her wonderful and graceful performance makes I forget about the trouble and annoyances of this transient world

  • @markovelikonja5399
    @markovelikonja5399 10 месяцев назад +41

    She's a wonderful violinist and her RUclips videos have millions of views. I'm surprised that she never seems to have played with the local orchestra anywhere I've lived. Hats off to the Frankfurt Radio Symphony for engaging her.

    • @belmarmom
      @belmarmom 10 месяцев назад +11

      Sayaka is a first class violinist.

    • @yawenliu6648
      @yawenliu6648 10 месяцев назад +7

      I live in NYC, we have A LOT of violinists coming here to perform. She came many years ago to perform with the NYPhil and on a small stage at Carnegie Hall. In 2019, I went to Washington DC to attend her recital at a private mansion. I would never forget that night, in fact i got to tell her how amazing she was after the concert. It seems the biggest myth to me that she doesn't get invited to NYC these days. She is phenomenal musician!

  • @Dara_K-o8n
    @Dara_K-o8n 10 месяцев назад +36

    I personally consider this recording is my reference recording of this piece from now on. The best I've ever heard.

    • @yawenliu6648
      @yawenliu6648 9 месяцев назад +3

      Her other recordings of major violin concertos and sonatas are also spectacular, Brahms, Prokofiev, Paganini, Shostakovich, Sibelius, Ligeti ...

    • @Dara_K-o8n
      @Dara_K-o8n 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@yawenliu6648 Indeed, I love her Shostakovich 1&2 album from 2012. I see her program this year she will play No.1 with Esa-Pekka Salonen / SF Symphony, very well deserved.

    • @nicolasdelaforge7420
      @nicolasdelaforge7420 Месяц назад

      it's that the tempo is perfect to allow for the emphasis on the phrasing that makes this piece so distinctly a Shumann work. His 3rd Symphony is one of the greatest works in symphonic literature.

  • @rafaelernestorosabal8734
    @rafaelernestorosabal8734 10 месяцев назад +23

    The pleasure of discovering an unknown piece from a known and beloved composer is increasingly rare as you become older!!

  • @h-mh93
    @h-mh93 10 месяцев назад +37

    Truly extraordinary - I am delighted by the sound of the violin - clear, crisp, emotional - without once being sentimental, virtuoso without grand-standing. Perfect tempi for the 3rd set - the bow string dances the polonoaise and the legs wan to follow. I heard so many recordings were they want to take this too fast! I hope we see more of this great violinist in Frankfurt. The orchestra performs flawless as ever - the conductor is superb - I will have to save this to my favorites right away! BRAVO

  • @Dwchidwchi
    @Dwchidwchi 10 месяцев назад +27

    World-class violin playing, gorgeous sound and noble musicianship

  • @chriguausbern
    @chriguausbern 5 дней назад

    Was für eine tolle Aufnahme und was für ein wunderschöner Ton der Solistin. Der langsame Satz ist himmlisch schön.

  • @robertmanno5749
    @robertmanno5749 10 месяцев назад +15

    A very difficult concerto to successfully make congeal, for soloist, conductor and orchestra.This is a superb performance.The Langsam is one of my very favorite slow movements in the entire concerto repertoire.

  • @notarbolz926
    @notarbolz926 10 месяцев назад +19

    Bewegende und wunderschöne Aufführung dieses romantisch doch meisterhaft komponierten Violinkonzerts mit seidigem und fabelhaftem Klang der virtuosen Soloviolinistin und perfekt entsprechenden Tönen des hr-Sinfonieorchesters. Der kluge Maestro leitet das erfahrene Orchester im gut phrasierten Tempo und mit geschickt analysierter Dynamik und Agogik. Wahrlich wunderbar!

    • @peterparsifal1687
      @peterparsifal1687 10 месяцев назад +4

      Ein Tempo gut zu phrasieren, das ist wirkliche Kunst. Wenn das Herr Riemann gewusst hätte.

    • @leonardoiglesias2394
      @leonardoiglesias2394 4 месяца назад

      Thomas Mann

  • @theoldar
    @theoldar 10 месяцев назад +62

    This is a mysteriously neglected work. It speaks very deeply to Schumann's pain.

    • @aysaraktimur2064
      @aysaraktimur2064 10 месяцев назад +7

      It is not misterious! Both Joachim and Clara heavily suppressed the work, stating that the work reflects Schumann’s deepening psychosis. Although this assessment is true to a certain extend, since the music’s dark tone and obsessive repetitions can attest that, the concerto in fact masterfully constructed and thematic material, flow of music, and orchestration are not so different from Schuman’s other major works, especially Symphony No.2 can be seen as closely related. Unfortunately, both Joachim and Clara were so influential that their negative opinions and heavy suppression took very long time to be neutralized. Therefore, this wonderful piece of music with philosophical depths has started to receive performances and recordings more and more often only lately. One other good point is that the performers quit performing the cut version, and today it is almost always played in uncut version.
      Isn’t the second movement one of the most beautiful and touching slow movements in violin concerto literature. Although it is both melodically and structurally quite different, it still reminds me the slow movement of Tchaikovsky’s violin concerto. Probably the difference is that, while Tchaikovsky’s slow movement is more elegiac, like an elegy, Schumann’s slow movement infused heavily with desolation and sadness, sorrow.

    • @theoldar
      @theoldar 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@aysaraktimur2064 I understand why it was suppressed at the time. What I don't understand is why it hasn't become more popular in the century since it was first performed.

    • @aysaraktimur2064
      @aysaraktimur2064 10 месяцев назад +2

      @resorcinolamide No! The piece was complete! It was Joachim’s and Clara’s negative opinions and suppression of the piece that caused it. It is in the history, now; we are lucky enough for being able to listen to this beautiful piece of music in full. 😇

    • @morisoba2550
      @morisoba2550 9 месяцев назад +1

      I guess Paradise and the Peri is more neglected than this work.

  • @simonwong2738
    @simonwong2738 4 месяца назад +8

    Glad to see the Schumann concerto finally got the recognition it deserves; this is the best modern rendition; Shoji was wonderful.

  • @jameschicken1008
    @jameschicken1008 10 месяцев назад +8

    so lovely to hear one of my favourite violinists playing one of my favourite but also under rated concertos in the repertoire

  • @田中紀子-y2o
    @田中紀子-y2o 8 месяцев назад +18

    色んな方の演奏を聞いていつも第三楽章のところでなにか物足りなさを感じていたのですが、今回、こんなに明るく、キレが良くて美しい曲だったんだと実感しました。第二楽章の美しさは本当に心に染み入ります。素敵な演奏に感謝。

  • @notaire2
    @notaire2 10 месяцев назад +15

    Wunderschöne und lebhafte Aufführung dieses romantischen und perfekt komponierten Konzerts mit seidigem doch gut phrasiertem Ton der genialen Solovioline sowie gut harmonisierten und perfekt entsprechenden Tönen der anderen Instrumente. Der zweite Satz klingt besonders schön und echt melodisch. Im Kontrast klingt der dritte Satz echt lebhaft und auch überzeugend. Der intelligente und ebenso geniale Dirigent leitet das ausgezeichnete Orchester im veränderlichen Tempo und mit möglichst effektiver Dynamik. Alles ist wunderbar!

  • @washingtonferreirateles9451
    @washingtonferreirateles9451 10 месяцев назад +31

    It's such a shame that this work is so neglegted. It should stand on the same level as Bruch and Mendelsohn.
    The fact that Schumann was able to compose such a beautiful and profound piece while being deeply troubled by his disease is almost a miracle.
    Also, this is the best recording since Menuhin's in 1938.

    • @americanidiot5563
      @americanidiot5563 10 месяцев назад

      Big Recommendation: Isabelle Faust

    • @allchandondeck2988
      @allchandondeck2988 4 месяца назад +1

      It is HARD due to Schumann typically writing for piano it is very awkward in he hand...but the piece is beautiful. And such a cool story as well. One day I will finish learning it and perform it. ❤️

    • @nicolasdelaforge7420
      @nicolasdelaforge7420 Месяц назад

      I believe that it surpassess the two you mentioned. Add his cello and his astonishing 3rd symphony and he stands with the greats.

  • @andriesbartels3454
    @andriesbartels3454 28 дней назад

    Great player with a refined game. High technical level, but at the same time very musical. Very beautiful. The orchestra is also phenomenal.

  • @tomo-cx2ek
    @tomo-cx2ek 9 месяцев назад +10

    Extremely perfect Schumann. Precious.

  • @teresadombek30
    @teresadombek30 8 месяцев назад +6

    That is a beautiful, crispy and so sensual interpretation of this stunning concerto.

  • @sbphotography3751
    @sbphotography3751 9 месяцев назад +10

    What a lovely performance of this underrated concerto - so nice to see a soloist who doesn't have to rely on a score!

    • @Dara_K-o8n
      @Dara_K-o8n 8 месяцев назад

      I don't think she's not on the score. Simply her best execution beyond other violinists ever performed.

  • @Kelly-es7su
    @Kelly-es7su 20 дней назад

    Powerfull! Great version!!!❤

  • @jonathanparle8429
    @jonathanparle8429 2 месяца назад +1

    What a fantastic performance. Best Schumann Concerto I have heard since Szeryng!

  • @marcoscampos1
    @marcoscampos1 6 месяцев назад +4

    Maravilhosa essa interpretação. Violinista alto nível!!

  • @DanielKRui
    @DanielKRui 8 месяцев назад +5

    The opening of the 3rd movement is very memorable. It got stuck in my head and I didn't remember the piece, but I knew I had listened to this piece recently and remembered liking it, so I guessed. And I got it right!

  • @yoneshima123
    @yoneshima123 9 месяцев назад +20

    Anyone who can say whether this work is good or bad is probably someone who doesn't know the beauty and spiritual dynamism of the composer's portrayal of his own life in musical notes, and the musician's reproduction of it in the sound of the notes. This record, in which Schumann's emotional pain and suffering are so beautifully expressed in his work and beautifully reproduced through his performances, is a treasure to us.

    • @PM_ME_MESSIAEN_PICS
      @PM_ME_MESSIAEN_PICS 6 месяцев назад

      guess clara schumann didn't know about robert's emotional suffering, having blocked the work's publication

    • @gregoryroscow5846
      @gregoryroscow5846 4 месяца назад

      I don't hear pain and/or suffering anywhere in this concerto. It's outer movements are remarkably virile and the comparatively short slow movement is beautiful enough but hardly the expression of the kind of tortured soul so beloved of biographical listeners.

  • @claudioloiacono8068
    @claudioloiacono8068 10 дней назад

    Fantástico!!

  • @tubule22857
    @tubule22857 10 месяцев назад +7

    I've never heard of Schumann’s violin concerto before.

    • @felipeeduardodelarosabocan2356
      @felipeeduardodelarosabocan2356 10 месяцев назад +11

      It has a very sad history. It was one of the last compositions by Schumann, and Joachim to whom it was dedicated considered to keep the work without publishing when 4 months later Schumann attempted suicide. Later, Schumann said that the melody of the slow movement (a very sweet one) was dictated to him by the spirits of Mendelssohn and Schubert. In his will, Joachim stated that it shouldn't be published nor played until after 100 years of Schumann death. However, relatives of the violinst 30 years before the expected date said that the spirit of Schumann told them to publish and play it. So at that time it was for the first time played for an audience.

  • @aysaraktimur2064
    @aysaraktimur2064 10 месяцев назад +7

    Isn’t the second movement one of the most beautiful and touching slow movements in violin concerto literature. Although it is both melodically and structurally quite different, it still reminds me the slow movement of Tchaikovsky’s violin concerto. Probably the difference is that, while Tchaikovsky’s slow movement is more elegiac, like an elegy, Schumann’s slow movement infused heavily with desolation and sadness, sorrow.

  • @sergioalves5278
    @sergioalves5278 10 месяцев назад +5

    Good morning, thanks. From Brasil.

  • @RO-zo8mp
    @RO-zo8mp 20 дней назад

    やっぱり庄司紗矢香は天才。オケのグレードが上がるとますますいい演奏する。

  • @drewbaker21
    @drewbaker21 Месяц назад +1

    👏👏👏

  • @ddd20120127
    @ddd20120127 2 месяца назад +1

    ⚘️⚘️⚘️⚘️⚘️

  • @MH-jg1ef
    @MH-jg1ef 10 месяцев назад +1

    love❤

  • @Discovery_and_Change
    @Discovery_and_Change 8 месяцев назад +2

    1st movement
    0:04 begins | 1:46 build up | 9:09 build up |
    15:10
    2nd movement |

  • @felipeeduardodelarosabocan2356
    @felipeeduardodelarosabocan2356 10 месяцев назад +5

    A very moving work with a sad history. 15:39 This is the melody Schumann told was dictated to him by the spirits of Mendelssohn and Schubert after attempting suicide in 1854.

  • @paralucent3653
    @paralucent3653 10 месяцев назад +2

    This violin concerto must have one of the longest lead-ins to the soloist's debut. It takes nerves of steel to stand in front of an orchestra for 2 minutes with nothing to do!

    • @Dara_K-o8n
      @Dara_K-o8n 10 месяцев назад +3

      Probably Beethoven Violin Concerto is a little bit longer at the start.

  • @aysaraktimur2064
    @aysaraktimur2064 10 месяцев назад +3

    It is not misterious! Both Joachim and Clara heavily suppressed the work, stating that the work reflects Schumann’s deepening psychosis. Although this assessment is true to a certain extend, since the music’s dark tone and obsessive repetitions can attest that, the concerto in fact masterfully constructed and thematic material, flow of music, and orchestration are not so different from Schuman’s other major works, especially Symphony No.2 can be seen as closely related. Unfortunately, both Joachim and Clara were so influential that their negative opinions and heavy suppression took very long time to be neutralized. Therefore, this wonderful piece of music with philosophical depths has started to receive performances and recordings more and more often only lately. One other good point is that the performers quit performing the cut version, and today it is almost always played in uncut version.

  • @marcelouz1
    @marcelouz1 10 месяцев назад +3

    This is an extraordinary masterpiece for violin and orchestra, I've never heard it i, s noticed that Schubert open the way for the future violin concertos between the romanticism and post romanticism, Beethoven had reason to say that this young composer has the " Devine spark "

    • @h-mh93
      @h-mh93 10 месяцев назад +5

      Robert Schuhmann - not Franz Schubert! Schubert has not written a Violin concerto sadly - to my knowledge.

  • @DelshadKarim
    @DelshadKarim Месяц назад

    nice

  • @sergioalves5278
    @sergioalves5278 10 месяцев назад +8

    She is talentous and beautiful.

    • @hipolit2200
      @hipolit2200 10 месяцев назад +1

      incel alert!

    • @chtidede
      @chtidede 10 месяцев назад

      Le talent et la beauté, ça s'appelle " la classe ! "

    • @sergioalves5278
      @sergioalves5278 10 месяцев назад

      @@chtidede Perfect !

    • @edbane1656
      @edbane1656 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@hipolit2200Thank you for pointing yourself out.

    • @hipolit2200
      @hipolit2200 9 месяцев назад

      @@edbane1656 You are dull

  • @aeimcinternetional
    @aeimcinternetional 4 месяца назад +1

    ❤️👍👏👏👏

  • @djseo1
    @djseo1 Месяц назад

    Absolutely beautiful. Is that Stradivarius Recamier she is playing? The darker tone seems perfect for this very underrated concerto with a tormented history.

  • @kiyusu2140
    @kiyusu2140 10 месяцев назад +2

    🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌❤❤

  • @icomo997
    @icomo997 7 месяцев назад +3

    Jesus I love her

  • @Dara_K-o8n
    @Dara_K-o8n 10 месяцев назад +1

    21.40 the oboe lady 😊

  • @おだいふく-x6t
    @おだいふく-x6t 9 месяцев назад +1

    シューマンのバイオリン協奏曲なかなかいいですね。

  • @khlee9071
    @khlee9071 10 месяцев назад +5

    I would think Ms. Shoji is playing a viola if I just look at a picture, It seems quite big.

    • @palladin331
      @palladin331 10 месяцев назад

      It's a standard size Strad. Her frame is quite small.

  • @palladin331
    @palladin331 10 месяцев назад +4

    Ms. Shoji is marvelous, as always. As noted, it is a problematic piece with an odd history (suppression of it by Clara Schumann and Joseph Joachim). Joachim had a rough reading of it (he was distracted and unprepared, as the story goes). He never had the chance to revise it with the composer. While we can now appreciate this great concerto thanks to recordings since the late 1930s (Szeryng championed it and his recording is, predictably, wonderful), much of the solo part is in the middle register (and very little in the upper register), and the repetitions seem excessive at times. I feel Joachim simply didn't like it (it is quite awkward) and regretted not being able to make changes with Schumann himself. Be that as it may, it is a concerto that justifiably gives the performer the rare opportunity to make suble changes, as most do.

  • @changchp
    @changchp 10 месяцев назад +5

    How much idia did Brahms take from this concerto when he wrote his world peak D Major?

  • @judithnelson1665
    @judithnelson1665 10 месяцев назад +3

    It was Clara and Brahmns (and none knew or revered Schumann's music more) who first had doubts about this concerto. Strickly musically, I think they are right; the work is repetitive, ponderous and lacks R.S'.s usual inventiveness. But...philosophically/aesthically, the concerto has power and beauty. So there- a mixed bag. Good we have it. The struggling Mendelsohnian effort to reach the positive in the last movement is certainly one of the saddest pieces in music.

  • @pghagen
    @pghagen 4 месяца назад

    Beautiful violin concert.! Pitty this concert was not allowed to play for a long time according to Schumann's own instructions.

  • @thomask1424
    @thomask1424 3 месяца назад

    A bit heavy-handed, perhaps, but very nicely done overall.

  • @Blissfulkitty-Seattle
    @Blissfulkitty-Seattle 9 месяцев назад +2

    Very robust orchestra.

  • @brkahn
    @brkahn 10 месяцев назад +3

    It is horribly faithful. Probably inspired by Harnoncourt's performance with Kremer. Masterful technically and conceptually.

    • @Dara_K-o8n
      @Dara_K-o8n 8 месяцев назад +3

      She doesn't need to be inspired by them at all.

  • @pujiharyanto9996
    @pujiharyanto9996 2 месяца назад

    What violin she play?

  • @jasuruz5525
    @jasuruz5525 10 месяцев назад +3

    Men birinchi

  • @Abiiiiiee
    @Abiiiiiee 21 день назад

    3:44

  • @papagen00
    @papagen00 10 месяцев назад +4

    Not Robert's best work, but a good performance nonetheless.

  • @edwardweaver1467
    @edwardweaver1467 10 месяцев назад +1

    Suite already.

  • @petervanderlee2748
    @petervanderlee2748 7 месяцев назад

    Die dirigent had danser moeten worden

  • @JLgG2454
    @JLgG2454 Месяц назад

    I have to say that Robert Schumann is probably of all of the Romantic repertoire the Violin concerto that does not get to me. I find it to be rather Teutonic country music of the period. I am making the effort once again, after all I am cooking Sauerkraut tonight: No,! ...The first movement lacks elegance and is devoid of romanticism. The second movement, which many claim to be extremely Romantic, is nothing that could not make me adhere with Joseph Joachim and Clara Schumann analysis: it is depressingly empty of any 'refined' un-frustrated romanticism!. As much as I love his piano concerto and music, I remain unattracted by this work, which I consider sub-par, and am not surprised that this violin piece is almost never chosen by any finalist at the top competitions, anywhere in the world, which explains why so many people remain unfamiliar with it.

  • @jonnieinbangkok
    @jonnieinbangkok 7 месяцев назад

    Sorry I can't watch any concert with a conductor in a man-bun 😂 😂 😂

  • @drgustavbakter4735
    @drgustavbakter4735 9 месяцев назад +6

    The performers do a good job but the problem is that the concerto is not very good. It's very repetitive and as heavy as a ton of bricks. The whole piece sounds like a completed puzzle with multiple pieces misplaced.

  • @nigelmorley5414
    @nigelmorley5414 9 месяцев назад +1

    First movement too slow, lacks the drama and passionate under current necesseary to make this music really come alive

  • @bobcochran2890
    @bobcochran2890 10 месяцев назад +3

    Interesting that a composer who wrote marvelous string chamber music with soaring melodic lines would stumble with a violin concerto. Violinist friends tell me it’s just not a very good piece to show off the instrument. This soloist and orchestra did a marvelous job with this rather ungrateful concerto.

    • @achilles231
      @achilles231 10 месяцев назад

      It’s a difficult work to understand, let alone play. It was beyond even Clara Schumann who suppressed publication after Schumann died.
      This performance is very intelligently conducted, and gets the tricky balance right. Shoji takes the first movement a little too slow, so the orchestra struggles to find the long melodic line in the tuttis I think.

  • @watching7650
    @watching7650 9 месяцев назад +3

    Flawless performance of a totally uninspiring piece that lacks a single captivating or original idea, or even a leading thread (as is too often the case with Schumann.) Or even a notable technical bravura challenge to make up for that.

    • @Bobunaganinamoto
      @Bobunaganinamoto 8 месяцев назад

      Dude was going mad and a few days away from killing himself. But yeah, i guess it's "not good" 😂

    • @judithnelson1665
      @judithnelson1665 7 месяцев назад

      Somewhat correct about the concerto; absolutlely wrong about Schumann overall." A leading thread"?; I suggest you consult Bernstein or Jarvi on Schumann for a little musical education.

    • @けんすけ-b8n
      @けんすけ-b8n 4 месяца назад

      ruclips.net/video/twj5RKvII_k/видео.html

    • @けんすけ-b8n
      @けんすけ-b8n 4 месяца назад

      ruclips.net/video/twj5RKvII_k/видео.html

  • @Cycle-Tourer
    @Cycle-Tourer 10 месяцев назад +4

    I don't like this concert. Quite bizarre. Very cold. lack of true melodies. lack of deepness. Lack of soul. Schumann far from his best.

    • @nigelmorley5414
      @nigelmorley5414 9 месяцев назад +1

      have you not listened to the slow movement ? One of the most beautiful melodies of all time, Second subject of the first movement, genuine, first rate Schumann

    • @Cycle-Tourer
      @Cycle-Tourer 8 месяцев назад

      @@eduardo3331 YES, Only you care.

    • @けんすけ-b8n
      @けんすけ-b8n 4 месяца назад

      ruclips.net/video/twj5RKvII_k/видео.html

    • @けんすけ-b8n
      @けんすけ-b8n 4 месяца назад

      ruclips.net/video/twj5RKvII_k/видео.html

  • @iggyreilly2463
    @iggyreilly2463 10 месяцев назад +3

    She plays with very little understanding of the music.

    • @peterwhyte-zl1kv
      @peterwhyte-zl1kv 10 месяцев назад +8

      Please explain how you know this.

    • @iggyreilly2463
      @iggyreilly2463 10 месяцев назад +1

      @peterwhyte-zl1kv Performers who understand what the notes on the page mean (beyond mere designations of sound and rhythm) play with feeling, something this violinist decidedly lacks. Long stretches of this performance consist of no phrasing, rubato, agogics, nothing -- just notes. This work needs as much help as possible as it is problematic; I applaud anyone who chooses to take it on because it's challenging. Sadly, the challenge is not met by this performer.

    • @morisoba2550
      @morisoba2550 9 месяцев назад +5

      Ssyaka Shoji sometimes plays in a restrained way, not because she doesn't understand the music, but because she intends to let the music itself sing naturally.

    • @けんすけ-b8n
      @けんすけ-b8n 4 месяца назад

      @@iggyreilly2463 あなたは何者? 世界的ヴァイオリニストの庄司紗矢香を知らないの?

    • @けんすけ-b8n
      @けんすけ-b8n 4 месяца назад

      @@iggyreilly2463 このソリストが誰か知っていますか?