BioShock Infinite PS4 vs Xbox One Analysis + Frame-Rate Test
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- We're aiming to tackle all three games in the BioShock remaster, but we thought we'd start with this one - can the most demanding BioShock title transition well to PS4 and Xbox One? Also includes all the graphics comparison stuff you need - Xbox 360 and PC head-to-heads included.
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Metro Redux:
60 FPS locked, high settings on Consoles. Looks better on Medium than Bioshock Infinite does on Ultra (PC) lol. Budget? 3 Adidas Tracksuits, one Lada and 200 rubles
Bioshock Infinite re-release on consoles:
50 FPS, High settings + Stutter. Uglier than the PC version's Ultra settings. Budget?Probably over 10 million dollars for all 3 re-releases (same as Metro's original budget).
Conclusion:
WTF Developers???
The Metro games are class.
I got this game with a 2013 GPU, a 760 GTX. I could not achieve constant 60fps on 1080p so no suprise here. The game engine is not the best.
Dont forget a healthy diet of vodka and potatoes!
To give the Bioshock devs some credit, Bioshock Infinite often has much longer draw distances, metro is mostly corridors with the occasional small outdoors section. Still though, those slavs really know how to make games.
PENDANTturnips
See the Red Square, Sniper Team and Sundown levels in Metro :P
Alexander Yordanov Oh youre right, forgot about those levels. Been years since ive played it.
Guess the Metro devs are even more based than I initially thought.
What's with all these half-assed Remakes and Remasters? This gen sucks.
Buy ps4 pro or pc
Developers these days are lazy as fuck. It's not going to get better bud.
Buy a PC instead of PS4 pro build is expensive depends on which settings you want to play but over 2 years you save money for gaming on the PC.
For once, consoles are getting the shitty ports. As developers notice the lower and lower market share per year, they will stop putting as much effort into the port, though they'll still get payed full price by Micro$oft and $ony for the port.
It sucks dicks!
perfect example of why I went over to PC. The supid devs prioritising graphics over framerate. At least on pc i have the option to choose.
You're right but The Collection also has tons of other (worse) issues on PC, which is frequently the case with console games ported to PC. Fuckin lazy devs -_-
On PC you can have both ;)
yeah but you're gonna miss out on highest rated games like uncharted journey, the last of us and loads of exclusives, which pc doesn't have apart from some easy to run ones like csgo or LoL.
PC can get those exclusives now with PS NOW, I have been playing through uncharted and last of us on PC... And Xbox does it with windows 10. I think over the next few years PC will get most Xbox and PlayStation games
PC has far more exclusives than all the consoles combined, plus access to virtually all games from the 6th generation and earlier.
PC = fine dining restaurants.
Consoles = fast food restaurants.
No NOT FAT but a moron ... He was building a super kick ass PC so he could play Uncharted on it.... ROFL....
+Unregistered007 Terry Crews is a moron because he doesn't know much about video games? Is that really what it takes to be considered a moron in your eyes?
So you are saying PCs are to expesive for people and only selected few can buy it, why consoles are cheap and everyone can buy them?
you are basically saying that consoles are actually more accesible and convenient for their price, which is wrong
pc = salvation army canteen
consoles = 3 star Michelin restaurant
Stay irrelevant pc beggars.
I have been playing the definitive edition on PC since day one
Doesn't it get boring?
Best comment.
thats cool.
+Release The Quackin! here you are again. You really dont see how stupid you look lol. You call them kids but here you ads with the mentality of "my gaming machine is better than your gaming machine" Dumb ass dude lol
Phoenix MH83 gamers must take pride in their machines
''i just think i'm gonna stick with the PC version tho''
Yup
have fun!
Played it for the first time on PS3. 2 Years later after i build my PC, i have played it again with all maxed out. I will never touch the console version again...
It is really damn well optimized and good looking. I can easily play it with my R9 290 in 1440p 60FPS and high-ultra settings.
I think ot is funny that they recommend using a PC without giving minimum spec's. Somone could have a lap top from 2007 trying to run this game. DF you are a joke
Have fun messing up your wrists while I enjoy this on my lazy boy with a controller.
Well.... At least they didn't lie about the game being "up to 60fps"
Yeah that was the first warning sign :(. It's like 2K didn't even give a fuck about this release.
How is it possible to ignore Anisotropic filtering? It's one of the most lightweight effects that gives the most visual upgrade.
Useless developers + rushed port job sold as a remaster. This release is incredibly disappointing. It's shameful that 2K just dumped this onto fans of the BioShock series.
FerrariKangaroo Atleast they did a better job with the previous bioshock games.
yeah AF has practically no performance hit and comparing those two clips side-by-side it's VERY noticeable the difference between the two.
also at least if you're a PC gamer if you got bioshocks 1 and/or 2 you get the remasters and dont need the others if you want
Bioshock didn't get any updates as far as I'm aware on the PC version
so you can still stick to that and run it without ANY of these issues
From what I've read on NeoGAF is that they are both a bit hit or miss as well. Bio 1 has some improved geometry and frame rate but is missing the bump mapping (wet concrete / walls), fog and has downgraded water effects.
+GreyGuardian
As far as i know, the bioshock remasters run in their original engines.
Sounds like (excluding the PC version, of course) the Xbox One is slightly better, which is surprising
Xbox One has a slightly faster CPU. I think this game might be more CPU intensive. The same thing basically happened with AC Unity.
+we0921 Scorpio is gonna struggle to hit 4k and neo/pro isnt gonna get anywhere near it, like you said its just double GPU and less than 30% extra ram and CPU.
They are struggling hitting 1080p and 4k can take 3 times more power, it simply will not happen, they are actually gonna use upscaling however they worded it in such a way most of these fanboys actually believe they are getting a 4k console this year for $399 LMAO
No, the PS4 Pro CPU is significantly overclocked, about 35% faster.
it's actually not. one I got to the fight with the fireman and the cops it's was just dropping all over the place. fucking not good enough
Not anymore. The boost mode on PS Pro makes the game run near 60 FPS with 3-5 FPS drops here and there.
Its not the consoles fault that the games don't run properly....its the damn developers....while Kojima can make mgsv run so smoothly at 60 fps this game can't even stay at 60 and it looks uglier than mgsv....
It's funny, cause in the ad for this game it says "1080p Visuals at *up to* 60 Frames Per Second!"
*Up to*
HEY, ATLEAST THEY WEREN'T LYING EY.
So why does PS4 have trouble with Anisotropic Filtering? I always set it to 16 on PC and never even notice a performance difference, even on older systems.
it has a super weak cpu and the os it runs is pretty bad also
It couldn't be the CPU though really? I have an old system that is much weaker but it can handle high AF.
I think the low AF runs on a lot of PS4 games too, so it's really weird.
I would like to know this as well. No texture filtering makes games look like a muddy mess, and should be the first thing these devs should be implementing. I've noticed it on countless open world games on PS4, and I find it extremely jarring constantly having a blurry ground 5 feet in front of me. It makes a good game look like ass.
Apparently this was an issue with the first-gen PS4 development environment for Unreal Engine titles and has since been ammended (although it seems that we still only get 4x AF ). 2K seem to be completely blind and ignorant of this however as it's not enabled at all in BioShock Infinite here. Incredibly disappointing. Why gamers have a better technical understanding of this than fucking game developers, I'll never know >:|
Naughty Dog used low AF for Uncharted 4 as well. So it must be memory bandwidth related.
Meanwhile I got the remasters of the first two games added to my Steam library for free after buying the trilogy for €8,99 on a sale.
great!
Which would be all well and good... if the PC remasters weren't shit, bugs, crashes, etc etc
Same lol
lol
but no trophies...sucks to be you
steam achievements can be hacked...its not legit bro
A last generation game can't even run smoothly on current generation hardware. Sad
LOL. I didn't even mention PC, feeling some type of way?
I find it so ironic that you put in your Google+ description that you "destroy" PC gamers arguments and here you are, raging hard at someone who did not even say anything about PC or that PC is better. Are you sure you know how to counter an argument? Because none of your comments reflect that. More like a little kid whose mommy only buys him PS4 and thinks is the best shit ever, then gets mad when given a reality check. Lmao.
Have fun with this stutter fest, even ancient PCs blast this game at smooth frame rates, now that is quite pathetic. Go get PS4Pro, still far from any current gen gaming PC.
The only cancer in here (that you like to mention so much) is the one consuming your brain cells, rendering you into an idiot to oblivion each day that passes. Also, it helps in your denial.
It absolutely can, just not optimized well in this instance.
Are these consoles actually a complex, sophisticated prank?
Yes.
its just a prank bro.
Greedy publishers.
It looks like this would be a slight win for the X1 wouldn't it? Better texture filtering since both seem to suffer from similar frame drops. Was this game tested on the original X1 or X1s? Also have you considered installing a SSD into the ps4 and retest situations like this one in particular? It might alleviate some of that unwanted hitching. Thanks for the video guys, thumbs up!
When I got to play my first Call of Duty, it was on the Nintendo Wii. Then I played PC Call of Duty... on Intel GMA 950.
When it came time to play Call of Duty 4: Modem Warfare, I was armed with an Nvidia 210. Even used it for World at War custom zombie modded maps. Through to MW2.
Call of Duty Black Ops II on Xbox: 360. Bioshock Infinite on a laptop with basically GTS 640.
Then, one day came the RTX 2060. Blew the flood gates wide open for 1080p 60 FPS, even 1440p 165 hz gaming on certain games like Valorant or older AAA titles. And I have a Series S that still emulates. I'm nowhere near 4k 120 hz OLED TV gaming, BUT I'm going to enjoy as much of this as I can, largely at 1080p on a 32" IPS monitor with minor raytracing like for Doom RTX.
This team and this channel helps me find games for all of these uses, as I still have all of these consoles and PCs. From 2010 to 2021, you have plenty of content for me to comfortably sift through and try out. Thank you so much.
5:51 if you have a modern pc, theres absolutely NO reason to play multi platform games on consoles.
Multiplatform multiplayer games like Fifa, CoD, Star Wars Battlefront, Titanfall etc quickly die on pc with small to no player base.
***** just use a 360/one controller on pc
and what about first person shooters on console? you're stuck to aim with a controller and "AIM ASSIST"
only shity pc ports looks the same as consoles, and even then,it outperforms console because higher framerates
and when the pc port is good (witcher 3) oh man, it blows xone/ps4 away with higher framerates, higher resolution (*even with a 1080p monitor you can do 2k with dsr*) stable fps and mods...
+Rudis the peasant is strong in this one
***** it doesn't blow the ps4 away, it blows any console, doom is not a bad pc port, its an amazing one, looks way better than consoles and runs better aswell, pc ports of far cry 4 and mkx we're handled by a different team, yes it is shit, looks the same as console because they don't know how to make pc versions to take advantages of a better hardware.
Prince Dizzy these games are already dead on any platform lmao, when a game is not good / outdated people seem to stop playing it... weird eh?
take csgo for example, never seen a game with so much people playing it at the same time... and its from 2012 aye...
Yesss I have been waiting for this one ! Thank you Digital Foundry, amazing work as usual. Is there a way to turn ON ads only for videos of your channel ?
Edit : still very disappointed by performance, I hope 2K / the developers fix this asap or I just won't buy a "remaster" that doesn't run smoothly...
We kinda need those ads to survive, I'm afraid. It's the only way to support our videos.
Yeah dude, if you love DF, then just watch adverts for their sake, it's what I do.
Sorry, I meant how to turn them ON haha sorry
+Etienne disable adblock or any similar plugin
If by default they don't show adds
Not your fault
No need to disable it, just disable on RUclips, I think theres a way to disable on one channel instead of all of RUclips
XBox One have the better anisotrophic filtering?
That's usually the case actually
please do Bioshock 1& 2 remastered vs original for PC version
that's a strange comparison pc has the remastered 1and 2 compare them to the console remasters.
dock gamer
no just a comparison between remastered vs original on PC, not consoles . . . cause' so far the feedback not exactly a success . . .
+Croz Raven many people aren't happy with the remasters because the the problems with the original remain in the remaster on PC. It's in general a bad port
I would hardly call it a remaster and more a re-release of the games, it's understandable why it's a free release on PC because hardly anyone would buy it, on consoles they are being taken advantage of by cashing in on them, very little work from the developers but easy to cash in from the gamers.
Would you kindly re-do this port?
This should have been the first post.
HAHA NICE!!!
Does people actually think this is Xbox One or PS4's fault? These consoles would easily run these games at a flawlessly stable 60fps but it's all lazy optimization, that's all.
i mean un-modified UE2-3 is certainly terrible on these consoles for some reason. probably because they weren't designed for these trash CPUs.
When then maybe they should design them for these trash CPU's! I don't understand why not.
Because Unreal Engine 3.8 is currently the Go-to Graphics Engine for PC Games. This is due to the Extensive Suite of Features and Capabilities, many of which are powered by the Vastly more powerful CPU's available to the PC. Remember, even when taken to its Maximum "safe" Clock of 1.9GHZ as in the Xboxone-S, the AMD Jaguar CPU used in both Consoles has only around 60% the Clockspeed of, say, an intel i5 4670K at even its stock clocks. If Epic redesigned the Engine around the Console CPU, then Unreal Engines Features and Capabilities would most likely be Compromised, which could have a Potentially negative Impact on the Engines Popularity on the PC Platform, to ensure Unreal Engine remains the Go-to PC Game Engine, it is best if Epic continues to design it around the "Gaming" CPU's available to the PC.
I would say Unreal Engine 4 is currently the Go-to Engine for Games and game development, It looks absolutely fantastic, it's feature rich, like Unity it's free unlike previous versions of Unreal, like 2 and 3 that cost money for a licence and it's easy to port games to whatever Platform such as Windows, Linux, Mac, Andriod, iOS etc.
Vital Signs Critical UE4 is rapidly becoming the standard Engine yes, but, when it first launched, it had a lot of teething issues (extremely demanding, absolutely Hated AMD, and didn't run as well as UE3 on NVidia hardware) so a lot of companies stuck with UE 3.8, several Games are still in development with the older UE3 engine but, indeed, now Epic has got it running right, UE4 is rapidly replacing UE3 as the Go-To PC Engine.
Indeed, Unreal Engine 4 is an incredible looking Engine, several up and coming UE4 PC Games have absolutely blown Me away with their Graphics ("Redout" in Particular looks drop dead gorgeous at ultra!) , and its running at genuinly fast frame rates as well, somthing that used to be mutually exclusive even on insanely high end hardware. It still has some issues on AMD however, but thats due to the AMD cards lacking On GPU Parallel Processing, something Unreal Engine 4 needs to run at its best due to having Several NVidia API's written directly into the Core Code, but the Vulkan support has certainly boosted AMD performance.
The fact its free is indeed a major boon, as it allows AA Companies (who make a lot of my Favourite Games) to have Graphics far beyond many AAA titles (hampered by their use of Console-Oriented engines) so the Games can look as good as they Play.
Unity, a great competitor for Unreal, sadly, seems to have become the 21st Century answer to Lithtech, capable of absolutely incredible things in the Right hands, but all to frequemntly used for complete Shovelware by Inept/Immoral "Studios" out to make a very fast asset flipped buck. Fortunatly, as UE4 is a lot harder to use than Unity (although still incredibly user freindly if the User has a modicum of Programming Knowledge), it is mainly finding its way into the hands of Legitimate Studios.
Windows should never be the Port, Windows, IMO, should always be the pime system on any Multiplat due to the PC's often vastly more capable hardware allowing UE4 to run closer to its, pretty stratospheric, limits. Although AAA much prefer to port PS4-PC (not good, as the Games are always invariably Broken!)-Xboxone-Linux. I feel the correct order should Always be PC-Xboxone-Linux-PS4. (PS4, IRRC, uses a Linux based OS, so surely it is more logical to port down to PS4 from Linux in the same way Xboxone should be ported down from PC due to the Windows based OS)
UE 3.8 is currently the Go to Engine for Games, but mainly because most of the Titles still using UE 3.8 started development when UE4 was not yet "up to speed" and the money just isn't there for them to scrap the current Game and restart on a new Engine, free Engine or not, but, I think by this time Next Year, UE4 will be the Dominant Engine in the PC market. Consoles, with their Severe Performance limitations may still be limited to Unreal Engine 3 however as UE4, although a lot easier to run that it was at launch, is still pretty Demanding and I am not sure if the Consoles will be able to handle it so it could well become the first PC Exclusive Engine for a good Decade or so! about time we Got another one too!
lol i got all 3 of the bioshock games on pc for £5, we are also getting the remaster update for free ;p my second rig can run this game at 1080p complete max settings at a stable 60fps on a early 2012 gpu.
I started playing infinite on my low end i3 3220 and 650ti. 1080p 60fps no bother. Same hitches though, but this isn't a remaster at all. It's a money grab.
Disappointing. Bioshock Remastered on PC crashes often and mouse input is terrible. But Bioshock Infinite runs well.
;p i wouldn`t get a 970 though, i would go for a 1060 or rx 480. The 970 wont last in the long run. *****
i got it for 9€ (excluding the dlc's), ane i also got the remasters for free... so i don't see why i would buy the console versions...
+FaintVFX I have an i5 and 970 of my own. I love it but the more recently released cards are better. Depending on your budget, the 1060 and RX480 would be better options
This remaster is just broken and a joke. The game isn't that demanding. Just get this game on a PC and you will have a wonderful experience.
this game is beautiful
Now while this isn't up to par with the PC, that really shouldn't be a surprise as consoles and PCs are not even in the same ballpark, but this will be a far better experience on either of the current gen consoles than it was playing it on a console from last gen. I picked up the collection a couple of days ago for my PS4, and I'm currently playing through the original BioShock and looking forward to playing through all 3 of these games.
Ugh I would have rather been satisfied if they did 1080p, improved visuals more and then locked at 30fps. I love PC gaming but 30fps is no problem to me. Hell I lock Infinite on my PC at 30fps so I can max it out completely. I don't have the best PC out there but I will gladly play games at 30fps at higher settings rather than jump to medium settings to play at 60fps (I play on controller mostly anyway). 30 is perfectly playable for me and I admit, I prefer higher graphics than higher frame rate because the difference between 30 and 60 dont phase me as much as it does others. I don't always trust 60fps because I know it won't always stay at that fps and going from 60 to 40 constantly bugs the hell out of me (again its just based on my experiences as I own both concsoles and my PC is just ok at best but it can still run some more recent games).
"Will you kindly like and subscribe"...lol. I see what you did there.
well if you like bioshock it's a pretty obvious reference
he played the... "ace in the hole"
I already subscribed years ago... Holy shit!
lol, wish the remastered versions were good ports on pc :c
Pc is garbage
I get so tired of digital foundry and the like comparing $900+ rigs to consoles for $299 - it's just pointless at this point to keep on pushing the obvious superiority of the visuals on pc...yup, we get it.
This is a game from 2011 Edit : 2013... A modern $400 PC maxes this game out.
A modern 900 USD rig would run this old game in 4K with stable 60FPS...
Ioannis Stf Thanks for the fix.
you can play this game perfectly in a $400 rig realistically speaking. both consoles and pc have their up and downs but if you have the money why not build a pc. im happy i did.
I'm playing on Xbox one and I'm noticing a lot of frame stuttering.. It's distracting
Is anisotropic filtering really that taxing on consoles? Or they just don't care? BioShock deserves better.
Im not sure it taxes anything, maybe it uses some v-ram?
It's taxing on Memory Bandwidth on the GPU.
I don't get how AF would be that much more taxing on consoles, heck any game I play I max out AF, turning it off, well I get like 1 frame more I guess but that's about it
It's probably the bandwidth as someone pointed out above me. We all know that consoles use APU and unified memory. Meaning both CPU & GPU are on one chip and both have access to the same large pool of memory. As a result, the bandwidth is also shared between the CPU & GPU on consoles (Link to Sony slide showing CPU/GPU bandwidth interaction: images.eurogamer.net/2013/articles//a/1/7/8/9/7/3/8/PS4_GPU_Bandwidth_140_not_176.png). And the amount of anisotropic filtering has a big impact on memory throughput. On PCs, you have lots of bandwidth available because it's fully reserved for the graphics card only and not shared by the CPU.
PS4's GPU has its own, faster 176GB/s bandwidth, while the CPU has a peak of 20GB/s via its caches. Even then, it's not enough.
In an interview by Digital Foundry with a lead artist on Vanishing of Ethan Carter, it was noted that games that push the CPU may have an impact on high-bandwidth graphics effects, like anisotropic filtering.
It kind of makes sense here. We know that XBO CPU is faster than PS4's, and it shows in some games where the XBO pulls ahead by a few fps in CPU intensive scenes... And we are seeing that in this video as well. Maybe this is the case of PS4's CPU being pushed to its limits resulting in lesser available bandwidth for the GPU and that's why the AF level was knocked down since it's bandwidth heavy.
What about XBO then? Well, it has eSRAM built right into the APU, and devs can gain back some bandwidth by utilizing it. Therefore, I believe it's possible to afford some higher level of AF on XBO compared to PS4.
I have both and Xbox one looks and runs best.
Nice to hear, so i will buy this for Xbox, if you have a Xbox One S you have a little boost, right?
better wait on pro
sure you do
Yeah I was gonna' say, the pro will likely run this without any problems (other than hitching, but that's practically unavoidable in unreal 3). If you want to play it right now though, the Xbox One S is your better option.
i'm pretty interested to know if the Ps4 pro have special inprovements(apart from useless 4k upscaling...)
5400rpm HDD and 1.6ghz laptop cpu. (LOL)
Jaguar is actually more like a tablet cpu :(
XboxOne is 1.75 GHz..... PS4 is 1.6 GHz. PS4 has in some games less power than the Xbox One thanks to a weaker CPU.
Ehm...... XboxOne have full 7 cores for games and PS4 have 6 and half of 7 th cores for games... It's not ony clock speed..... More cores and highter clock speed..... It's 15-20% more power on CPU, and more ram for games.... :) PS4 have only 38% more power on GPU...... In CPU heavy games have XboxOne better frame rate or graphics and on heavy only GPU games is better PS4..
A 10% difference in clock speed can mean the difference between stable and stuttery performance easily. Plus, that's not a frame or two. That's 3-6 or even more.
Sorry but, MGSV is 1080/60fps and has better graphics than garbage Infinite
Xbox One > PS4
This is when games took chances and innovated. Say what you want about Bioshock Infinite the entire city in the sky floating was mesmerizing.
Why is df trying to hide that xbox one has a slight upper hand in this game?
Because they perform about the same. They made it quite clear that filtering doesn't work on PlayStation.
Digital Foundry is as unbiased as it comes so you are getting all facts unless you have the IQ of CrapAntiGamerReviews.
That is not bias at all. They analyse performance. PlayStation and Nvidia often perform better. Even then they still post videos about Vulkan's huge AMD advantage and Xbox CPU advantage.
I can see how you'd think that is bias but truth is PlayStation and Nvidia perform better on average so you will see more videos that show it.
Think you are being too cynical. You gotta ask, Why would they have any bias to any company? *****
+Drew James I agree.
Paranoid as fuck
"Consoles are better because the games just work."
-Every argument against PC ever
I honestly can't see the issues i play it on ps4 , all 3 games runs smooth and look great. Im not one for being picky on small miner graphical issues
Of course you don't notice it, your standards are console standards. If you have experienced this game on PC with highest settings and 100+FPS you will notice the difference. You can't notice something, that you never experienced otherwise. Dips to from 60 to 40 fps in combat and hitches are not smooth and never will be. This remaster is a joke and doesn't even compare to the PC version from 6 years ago.
if you swith to an SSD on both consoles, thiese objects pop-in disappear?
Enough with the Remasters! It's been almost 3 years and we still get Remasters... I would really like to see game developers putting their resources into developing new games instead of squeezing out every penny of their old games with ports and not even good ones to top it all off
probably bc remasters are cheap and people buy it like this one
Also because there were no good games this year so far, devs/publishers simply port the PC versions to curerent gen consoles, call it a remaster and sell them full prize to compensate the lack of income this summer.
No good games this year? Wtf.
I love these videos but chaps you know what'd be most welcome? If you guys explained how things like Anisotropic Filtering and Temporal Anti Aliasing works. I think most have a basic understanding of how it works but it's hard to see unless you really point it out.
I'm more disappointed that the remasteres on PC still have the same bugs and glitches as the originals...
It drops 15 fps for 2 tenths of a second LITERALLY * It really does take something away from your experience*.
Average pc fanboy of today. SERIOUSLY Digital Foundry and all you unfortunatly thounsands of pc fanboys on RUclips, start apreciating GAMES as a whole, story, atmosphere, gameplay etc, not if a game lacks a god knows filter or if it drops 10 to 20 frames within a second.
Whats funny is most of them wouldn't even notice the drops without a fps counter or Digital Foundry pointing it out to them.
Nah you notice those drops, they're extremely jarring, I know from experience. Don't try to pull the master race card, kid.
They should've ported this to UE4, like The Astronauts did with The Vanishing of Ethan Carter.
Infinite on my Xbox One stutters like hell towards the end of the game.
Same..
I have the PC version and it runs like dogshit. My system cost me nearly $600 to build just last year and it can't even run a remastered game from 2007 competently. I'd kill to have the nitpicky issues they're having while having the data processed through a machine to analyze to really notice. Fuck PC gaming, like for real.
I spent same amount but got 50-60 FPS on ultra in this on PC but there is no denying that console are preferable way to go for me because I just want to play games without having to stress over requirements and hardware.
You guys spoke the truth. Nobody liked your comment. Enough said
If you look above you will see two lying peasants trying to defend their shit consoles.
***** We maybe peasants according to you but we are satisfied with our consoles and live a balanced lifestyle and have other hobbies instead of obsessing over graphics. PC gamers on the other hand will always remain miserable no matter what they have and will always have the need to seek attention and show off on the internet because no one in real life gives a fuck about them and their sperm covered PC. That's the difference.
I'm ok with Bioshock Collection Remastered and other games like Skyrim. It also makes it more convenient for gamers like myself who have sold their old consoles.
So the Xbox one version is better yet DF still refuses to recommend it over the ps4 one.
you do realize that they 1. noted that the xbox one version has better AF
and 2. that since both these ports are SO AWFUL that even with the better AF it's hard to recommend the xbox one version since both consoles have crappy dips and different and sometimes the same times
either way I don't think either of these ports should have any recommendation
you know what you should probably get? THE PC VERSION, WHICH HAS NONE OF THESE ISSUES!
They pointed out ALL the specific instances where Xbone is better and where PS4 is better. You are just a 14yo fanboy who wants a wrong generalization at the end of the video saying "HURR DURR DIS VERSION IZ BETTUURR"
They both have a shitty port, and Xbone is not 100% better because it gets those frame-skips more often, for example.
And what does it matter to you? If you have a good PC get it there, if you have a Xbone get it there, this video would change the choices of literally 0 people because everyone already established which console they like the most
Yeah, the comparison image is shockingly cleaner textures on Xbox One. Yet they didnt recommend it
My issue is that the tittle of the video is ps4 vs Xbox one, yet they end up recommending it on PC, which makes no sense if you are a console gamer and came here to make a decision.
Everyone knows that games perform better on PC. I'm just pointing out the obvious and that's that DF is full of PlayStation fanboys who would rather recommend a PC version in a console vs console comparison.
people still bringing up xbone's advantages
sure, it has the better AF, but it has around as many, if not MORE frame dips than PS4
either way, neither of the ports are really anything to write home about
xbox one has hitching in more areas that dont happen on PS4
I consider both ports equally unappealing, get the PC version, a budget rig will get you better performance with none of the hitching that this new console port has
I just finished this game on my laptop with its GTX 940M and Core i7 6300U, which gets like 40 fps on Medium-High at 1080p. I honestly was expecting a lot more out of these consoles.
PS4 Pro will have a stable 30 FPS
I know the video makes it look bad, but I am playing on Xbox and it is very enjoyable, there are performance stutters, and some severe frame drops(which don't last long). Overall, I think it is a good purchase if you are a fan of the games and you are ok with having some performance drops, you will have a very fun time
Xbox is better
+Phil Spencer. phil spencer jaja. you are a crack bddy jaj
that's like saying the shit you took last night is better than the shit you took today.
Leave that shit in the past.
PS4 is better
+lcaro Lima Nope:)
what the PC version was patched in October whereas we are still waiting to see anything from 2K for the consoles to be patched. in fact 2K refuses to even acknowledge that there is framerate drops this game as many many people have sent tickets to customer service on the 2K website and the only thing we are ever told is to clear the cache reset the MAC address and reinstall the game several times. None of this of course will ever fix anything and then they just ignore you
simply no excuse for the ps4 to perform as bad as xbox
*worse than Xbox ;) You can hardly call performance on either of them stunning though
Kinda of how I feel devs treat PC these days. No optimizations, just minor changes to the API, and a direct port, and that is it.
That "Would you kindly?" worked on me. :
Bioshook 1 :(
lol i was getting 60 fps stable on these settings two years ago with an i3 4170 and r7 260x.
When you say "It runs at 60", on PC it means "it doesn't dip below 60 at any time, no matter how hard current scenario is to render".
Can't wait for the Ps4 pro
what trap? He just wants a more powerful version of his console.
Do you consider buying new hardware components a trap by hardware manufacturers too?
***** Its true, but consoles are still a better deal in price performance ratio, due to manufacturer deals that big companies like Sony and MS get.
***** a graphics card in performance range of the pro will cost 250 bucks by itself. Considering Sony is aiming for 1440p and above native with the PS4 Pro.
+Possessed Gamer it's funny you only care about power when you got exposed on Dobby's channel for having a welfare pc that can't run Fallout 4
Grazie Digital Foundry!
PS4 looks like garbage. The textures are all fucked up.
They are the same as PC on very high so no.
No AJ they're not. PS4 version has 0 Anisotropic filtering on the textures, both versions are still well below the PC version maxed out.
AJ Singh The video outright said the game isn't up to maxed PC standards, and also that PS4 has zero anisotropic filtering.
Stop being illiterate, jackass.
Rhyan Chalmers You know what.....I read comments like yours and I think to myself, can anyone really be this stupid? Why do I waste my time with these dead beats on RUclips. Were they dropped on their hand when they were a child or did their mother mate with a monkey to have them? I never said the game is on Ultra. I said after I examined the textures and lighting, realistically it could be running on the very high preset, but since there is a very tiny difference between very high and ultra on PC, it looks very comparable to the Ultra preset as well. Work on your reading comprehension jackass. I'm done.
AJ Singh I read illiterate comments like yours and wonder why I bother trying to teach them new information, when they're so stubborn and thick-headed, they won't listen.
Lmao, DF proved you wrong, the console version is still inferior to the PC version, end of fucking story.
Thanks for doing this John. *Who do we contact to get this fixed?* This port is unacceptable. The lack of anisotropic filtering and severe framerate drops are incredibly disappointing.
WTF are these ports ?! This game runs better on a 7790 on pc...
Would be interesting to see what impact running the game off an SSD would have.
Everyone should switch to pc already
TANKY WANK no not every one want to play on pc you know that right
I'm glad that this channel is honest with all the analysis and just tells you to stick with the PC version.
ps4 version > pc version pc crashs
ps4 dead, idiot.
pc version maxed settings 4k locked 60fps 😆 and no mine hasent crashed face it ps4 got a blurry image and crap framerate because the ps4 is just trash but hey stay in denial fella you just have people laughing at you.
And yet,you can't even spell for shit.
who are you talking to .
dock gamer Stalin
2:27 dat stutter, when it happens on some PC games you can troubleshoot it, on a console, you are pretty much stucked with it until the developers release a patch, whenever they want to. A game like this should have no problems on these consoles, I feel bad for the console players since this game is not demanding at all.
Damn... I said '' fu*k mi ps4 is broken '' until now there us no patch. This game on console stutters a lot.
While the lack of anisotropic filter, alternate Dx11 post processing and lower quality textures is crushing, you shouldn't regret not having those Dx11 contact hardened shadows, as they are broken as fuck and display badly with the environment when a character shadow interacts with a static background shadow.
As always, PC>consoles
No way!
and full if brainless troll ignorants
lmao yeah but just don't but just don't be that guy
Tragic Velocity
not going to ahppen. im just sick of negative comments as a pc user (oh the irony!) and owner of ps4 tgaming is gaming. if someone likes to play on something else than pc, doesnt m,ake him or her dumb
***** i wasn't referring to you i was referring to the main comment and telling him not to be a pc elitist they are bad but not as ignorant as console fanboys and i mean fanboys
Wait the xbox one version is better? wow, nice to see devs treating xbox one fairly for once.
I love how they pretend x1 and ps4 have the same amount of issues even though clearly the xbox one version is better here.
jesus, this generation is a disappointment, mostly halfassed last gen ports
Anisotropic filtering is ALWAYS set behind x16..... WHY? It doesn't even affect performance!
xbox one master race
Please don't joke about that c:
I sometimes wonder if you lot actually enjoy playing games. As they said, on previous consoles the frame rate often dipped well below 30fps which is something I never even noticed back in the day and it never spoiled my enjoyment of the game whatsoever. My advice is just play the game on your preferred console and start remembering what got you interested in games in the first place because I bet it wasn't to do with the frame rate.
the small stutters also happens on PC, i have a GTX 980 and 4790K and even with this setup, i still get stutters from time to time.
then turn on vsync or adaptive vsync. This game shouldnt do that on that hardware.
yea your hardware should crush this game I bet it your settings.
Agent Double0Hogg well, i have a test rig with an i5 4690K and i have tested + 100 GPU's in that game. in one scene, it happens all the time, so i think it is the game's fault.
pc is always the best. gg
no shit Sherlock
Bullshit if a game as massive and good looking as mgs5 can run 60fps then this should be no problem. Unacceptable.
Worst Next generation
Well, there WAS also that one Prototype 1 & 2 ""remaster"".
*current
Maybe this is just me, but to be honest, the ps4 version actually looks better than the pc one
it's definitely you
so conclusion: consoles are still overpriced pieces of shit and pc gaming is cheaper and superior in every way.
Pretty much.
***** So we know you're trolling, the question is, why, what purpose are you are trying to achieve here? Go away, idiot.
***** What are you even trying to say? Do you even understand how computers work, how hardware performance is calculated, how calculations per second?
The Wii-U GPU is 0.35 Tflops. aka 350 Gflops
The PS4 GPU is 1.84 Tflops aka 1840 Gflops
The Xbone GPU is 1.31 Tflops aka 1310 Gflops
The Wii-U CPU is a 32-bit tri-core IBM CPU with a pitifully slow 1.24Ghz base-rate. 2.9 Gflops of performance. That's fucking weak.
The Xbox One has a 64-bit Octo-core AMD CPU with 1.75Ghz base-rate. - 112 Gflops
The PS4 also has a 64-bit octo-core AMD CPU with a 1.6Ghz base-rate. 102 Gflops
The Wii-U is barely better than 7th-gen consoles, it's far weaker in every single capacity to current consoles. You're a fucking idiot, never talk hardware again.
Question for DigitalFoundry: Do you think the frame drops and screen-tearing will be mostly or entirely eliminated playing this on the PS4 Pro just purely due to it's overclocked cpu and better gpu or do you think a Pro-specific patch would be needed?
I haven’t noticed any performance issues on PS4 pro.
GTX 960 runs on the PC version of the game worse than these two consoles this setting. GTX 960 runs at barely 40-50 FPS ..... This is not a problem of consoles, but the problem developer studios ...And this is the GTX 960 40% stronger than those consoles in other games . Poor optimization.
The 960 should easily get 60 FPS ultra, are you sure you're not trying to run it with old drivers or in 1440p or something?
"Its 66fps minimum and 85fps average framerates at 1080p " (www.trustedreviews.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960-review-battlefield-4-bioshock-infinite-page-2)
Lol you must have a shit cpu or something 960 can easily run this on ultra
You must be smoking something. On Bioshock Infinite (ultra settings), I get ~100 FPS on my GTX 960 coupled with i5 3470.
The remaster basically is the original PC version from 2013... on medium/high-ish settings
Just get the PC version for 5 euro and you get the remaster update for free. Add some SweetFX and your gaming experience is much better and cheaper then the console versions shown in this video...
remastered ver is only applies to bioshock 1 and 2,..there is no remastered ver for infinite,...bioshock infinite on ps4/xbone are basically PC ver with med/high settings,..but yeah i agree, go to PC ver,..PC ver of infinite make ps4/xbone ver look obsolete
You obviously didn't watch the video.
Good review and thanks. It's a shame they didn't spend some time ironing out the problems before release. I just seems like they made a decision one day to convert it for the consoles and the next day, it was on the shelves in stores. Remastered runs at a solid 120fps (v-sync) all settings at maximum for the PC depending on your build... So surely the consoles can hit half that, at medium settings, constantly.
Playing through the Collection on Xbox, 1 and 2 were nice upgrades looked great and ran very good overall no issues.
Infinite, its unplayable, terrible framerate, screen tearing and lag/stuttering. This needs to be fucking fixed in combat especially towards the end its unplayable.
Just an update it's still not fixed 😢
Why on Earth are they "remastering" last gen multiplats by bringing up to PC settings? I can understand remastering exclusives but multiplats just puzzle me.
I know I'm 7 years too late for this but i have to get this out. So ive been recently replaying the PS4 version of this game on a PS5 years after i beat it on PS3 and i have mixed feelings about it, some of the things he forgot to mention are the constant texture bugs, terrible sound mixing and freezes but at least the fps drops are virtually none existent on PS5
On my PC I can run this game at 4K with the Ultra graphics settings preset with a frame rate between 180 and 200 fps, that is not surprising though because this game is a few years old. These consoles are struggling to maintain 60 fps at 1080p with lower graphics settings.
Anisotropic filtering was missing on DMC, on ps4 version too. It was patched in eventually though. But I doubt they will for this? Fans asked for it we should get a quality port very poor.
i know it drops but 2k at least know the meaning of Remastered!
1080p & 60fps at least they made some efforts to name it Remastered & because of that they got my respect.. 👏👏
I think most console players don't know what remastered means. It sure as hell doesn't mean to get a version of a game that looks and performs worse than the PC version from 6 years ago.
PS4 Pro will have stable 60fps
or a decent pc
So will scorpio
Hilarious how ignorant console players may say "you need to upgrade your PC, while our consoles last for 5+ years"
Sure bud, because everyone and their mother wants a PS4 Pro
if by better you mean all of the price point of a PC with zero of the advantages then yeah "better" lol
Infinite was one of the last games I could crank up all the settings all the way and still get 1080p 60fps, on my 2450p gtx6502gb machine. Disappointing it doesn't run well on the consoles....
Seems to run slightly better on the XB1 and no anisotropic filtering present on the PS4. That's bucking the trend!
Were people really expecting this game to look as good as PC and run at a locked 1080p 60fps? O.o
That isn't going to happen until the PS4 Pro launches and when Scorpio is eventually released.
It's like they did the barest minimum in porting the game from PC to console and then decided, "That'll do."
Shouldn't there be an ESRB, that rates the performance of games? Like, a performance rating board, then, when you buy a game, right beside the rating it would say: Performance rating: C - 60fps high, 45 avg., 28 low, severe screen tearing, 200ms frame time spikes. That way, if you cared, you'd know.
I'm curious to see how games with issues like these on the original PS4 will perform on PS4 Pro.
I mean, apparently they won't need a specific patch to just run better on the console, because its better hardware will do it naturally, right?
If it is heavy CPU bottleneck, then don't expect much improvement since PRO's CPU is basically 40% overclocked Jaguar of PS4.
Well... 40% more CPU raw power must bring some actual improvement. And not even taking in account the 2.3x more powerful GPU.
60% of the time, it works everytime
Oh right, my mistake, wrong calculations 😅
Yeah, and now i just hope to see promised 30 fps titles at REALLY 30 fps, like Just Cause 3, wich is still today a totally disaster after a bunch of patches...
Witcher 3 at 1080p 60fps would be very sweet too 😄😏
bioshock is not known for being CPU heavy.
I can run witcher 3 fairly stable 1080p@60fps with some AA. My cpu is 4core i5 @ 4.5Ghz and r9 390 @ 5.3TF - with just a couple of settings backed off a notch. obviously 2.1GHz is much lower, though there's 8 physical cores vs my 4, and at 4.2TF I'm sure if the console equivalent detail settings remained 1080px60 would be achievable on ps4pro - assuming CDprojektRed and other devs have any intention of going that route instead of just trying to maintain some half arsed 4K at low fps for the 23 people who have 4k tvs
I played this on my old PC core 2 quad and GTX 460 on 1080p
The graphics settings and fps are not as good the new console, but did ran way better than last gen console (last gen was 720p with drops below 30fps)
Any modern PC will easily smoke PS4/xbox one. Even something like i3 + GTX 750 should easily beat these console in this old game.
It does. GTX 750 Ti on high settings stays ~80 FPS.
Specs this, specs that. Overall, optimization is also a huge key here. There's a ton of AAA titles on the PC that run like shit yet is playable on a $300 console WITH a 4K player.
What are those games ?!