Soooo I just reached 100 subs. I wanted to say that the reception from this video has been fantastic and I am over the moon with all of the kind words you guys have written! It honestly means a damn lot, so from the bottom of my vessel's heart, I thank you. I hope to see all of you in my upcoming videos if you choose to stick around
I finished it last night and oh my God you seriously found multiple names in that edit to where you make him say the names amazes every single time. I really wonder how you did it and this theory is the best one that I’ve seen other than though he is light theory
@@henoccharlot708 Haha thanks for the kind words! The voice impression is all thanks to the voice actor Chris Burns. He did those names specifically for this video
Man I cant believe it. Was just recommended your video after watching all the people you mention, but your theory blows all the others out of the water. Really looking forward to your next Braig video. I'd like to ask if there's any chance you'd talk about more paralels between VS XII and Verum Rex, or how TWEWY fits in the next KH stories. Big props to you and I will share this around!
@@SpanishEchidna Thank you for the kind words friendo. It appears you've seen the Braig/Luxu thumbnail on my twitter feed! That was originally going to be my next video, but I've pushed it back to 3rd video since I'm working on something else currently. It's coming along nicely, should be out later this month. Can't wait for you to see it!!
Something I only just noticed after about my sixth time watching this video is that the "Darkness" in Kingdom Hearts kind of operates similarly to the starscourge in 15. Not sure if the starscourge was a Nomura or Tabata inclusion, but it just reminds me of how Ardyn was initially absorbing it from other people to heal them but it wound up being part of the reason that he ended up the way he did. And the Master of Masters plan is to have the Darkness absorbed into himself and the Foretellers in order to get rid of it.
It seems darkness is a concept that exists in most FF games just with different names, Sin in FFX, geostigma in FF7 etc they are all very similar ideas
This is a truly amazing video! The editing is flawless, I love the idea of MoM being Arden, and just all of it is an excellent video. Thank you for the credit, though I would have settled for the link in the description. It's the first time I've been given a shout out on RUclips. I've already subscribed, and I can't wait to see what else you come up with!
@@SonnyNovus If you ever want to collab, let me know. Best way to reach me right now is email, pajamaletsplay@gmail.com. I just recorded a video about the Norse Gods in Dark Road, but I noticed that mention of Niflheim with Arden, so there's probably something there.
@@pajamaletsplay9859 That will definitely be something I will consider in the future! Right now I have a slew of different videos and topics planned, one of which I'm working on as we speak. I'll be sure to write it down in my plans. Thanks so much for watching my video and best of luck with your future projects!!
You're a new youtuber, and your work is incredible. Great video edit and a nice calm voice. All that makes watching your videos incredibly satisfying. Looking forward to more content from you, you earned a new subscriber just by watching 30 seconds of this!
Rewatching this vid for the second time. I seriously mean it when is say this - I cannot wait for more content from you. Literally anything.. just wanna hear your thoughts. I appreciate KHs lore so much and bearing other people talk about it is just so satisfying. I hope in future videos you brush on why yozora looks like riku etc. Take care!
It humbles me that you'd take the time out of your day to watch my vid for a second time, so I sincerely thank you!! I have a long list of videos that I'll be cracking on with (around 15 on my list so far!) and I've been editing my 2nd video ever since this one dropped, which should be released at the end of this month or early May. One of the videos on my list will be specifically around Riku and his role. I won't spoil it for you, but Yozora will definitely play a part. Thank you for sticking around
Best MoM identity theory I've seen yet! One thing though: Yozora asking Sora why he's using "Sora's" name actually lends to the idea that Yozora does know a Sora that doesn't look like our Sora (you interpreted it as the opposite). For example, Yozora could know an older Sora (future Sora) or a vessel that houses Sora's heart or a piece of his heart. Yozora is surprised Sora is using the name Sora, but by asking why Sora is using Sora's name, it makes it sound like he has met a Sora that is not the Sora standing in front of him (does that make sense). Basically, he has met a Sora that is not the present Sora. I actually think this exchange lends a lot to the theory that MoM is the future Sora (even though I'm not fully convinced of that theory myself) just because of Yozora's reaction: if MoM is the Ardyn of Quadratum and Yozora is the Noctis, then they would be enemies. If Yozora were to meet a younger MoM (or Noctis met a younger Ardyn), would Yozora not try to save him from his fate? The whole Yozora conversation and the two endings would make a lot of sense in that context. EDIT: I do think that MoM has an original name, though. It makes sense this would be the case (I love the options you presented: they're all great contenders). I just think it's possible Yozora knows a different version of Sora and that Sora has ties to MoM in some way. Also, I've always personally believed that Yozora was MoM's nobody. But that's another theory altogether.
He does say why are you using “sora’s name” as if to say that he knows for sure that the name belongs to someone else... He definitely knows of a sora for sure, wether or not he’s met anyone named sora is to be debated.
@@SonnyNovus that thing you said about quadratum possibly being set in a the future of a timeline where darkness won against light like the BoP predicts... that’s very interesting. And I have something to add to that (you probably already got it figured out tho lol) When sora time traveled/used the power of waking for the first time, what happened to the timeline that he left? It most likely got conquered by darkness because sora pretty much disappears. And there probably were legends and fairy tales about it that yozora has heard of (probably heard the stories from the person who told him to save sora) And he’s probably thinking to himself “if sora hadn’t had disappeared, we would be in a better timeline”. Which is why he looks a little mad or disappointed when he says “sure... I’ve heard of you” So anyways, quadratum isn’t just unreality/fiction, it’s a whole other timeline that we could’ve seen if sora wasn’t the main character that we were following. Looks like the master has already succeeded in his plans to defeat all the darkness, at least in one timeline, he’s probably also trying to get rid of darkness across all timelines. Not exactly sure how it works, but it’s just that he needed ONE timeline where darkness failed, in order to erase the darkness in the whole universe Just something I thought I’d add to it. This is all so interesting and I can’t wait till we get the next kingdom hearts game
@@Z-A-C Yeah, I'm thinking that he knows the name Sora like we all know of the name "Jesus" for example. We don't literally know a guy named Jesus or have met him, but we are familiar with the name. The reason why I say Jesus is because the skull and crossbones on Yozora's sleeve are modeled after Sora's head (hair) and two Keyblades, symbolizing Sora's death. This leads me to believe that the Book of Prophecies is like a bible, and the guardians of light (Sora, Riku, Mickey etc) are all martyr figures and worshiped for their bravery in the Keyblade war. So Quadratum could be the distant future of either Data Daybreak town or the future where Sora lost and never changed his fate. But analyzing Yozora's dialogue, it's pretty clear he doesn't know anybody using the name personally because he's so impartial. He just accepts Sora with lines like "If you are who you say" and "Sora? You're Sora? Sure, I've heard of you."
Here I thought you were a seasoned veteran in the war of RUclips content creation with a vast archive of content I could peruse. Instead I find I am fortunate to witness a legend in the making. This was a wonderful video and I can't wait to see more. You have my subscription and attention.
The thing that most people don't know about Square is that a lot of ideas/stories they created were reused for future titles. FFVII created 3 other Final Fantasy games after it, when the staff did the story's concepts synopsize for the FFVII pitches and even Nomura created the character in Tifa after the story beats were already laid out for FFVII well into pre-production. FFVIII son Father dynamics were used. FFX world was the idea pitched for FFVII originally. So Nomura reusing his original story for Verse XIII in Kingdom Hearts might sound crazy but it's not an uncommon practice for the company at all. They've had a history of weaving new stories from story seeds from other game pitches. ;)
Im gonna mention how yozora was gonna save sora by basically trapping him for all eternity. Can it be that sora's fate is being the ardyn of the story and yozora just wants to save him just by intervening like that? We know mom is shown in quadratum
28th sub and 28th like! Phenomenal first video. Great presentation. You put some great ideas out there, particularly with the research you did into the Master's name, those are some suggestions I ain't ever heard before and you presented a convincing case for them all. But yeah I'm gonna have to strongly disagree with you on that nameless star bit! 😁 But your counterpoints were fair and expressed well. I look forward to seeing what else you come out with.
Oh wow, you were one of the few inspirations for me to start making KH videos in the first place, so it means the world to me that you enjoyed the video!! (Your name is in the end part of the video if you didn't happen to catch it) Even though I've heard the Sora/Nameless Star theory from a few places, you were definitely the person in mind when writing that section. I suppose only time will tell, eh? Glad you're sticking around for what else I have in store and thanks for watching
@@SonnyNovus Ah I missed that. Thanks a lot for the mention! Feels weird seeing my name in someone else's video, and even weirder that you said I was one of your inspirations. I know I got videos from over a year ago, but I only started getting serious about these videos in November, so I'm still a newbie to this myself, so to hear that I've inspired anyone is flattering. And ofc I'm sticking around man, I have no doubt you'll continue to produce some great stuff
this is an incredible theory. the editing was done so well and you brought a lot to light that even had me me like “OH WAIT” cause things started clicking. hope to see something taken out of your theory into the future games. keep up the incredible work. :)
Honestly, I love the whole thing with the repeated Master of Masters clip. It's so creative, and so compelling. I could watch this video multiple times, it's just so good. Makes me want to make something like this too. Awesome work!
A few more little anecdotes for you guys: What is Demyx's title in the Organization? The Melodious Nocturne. It basically means "Melody of the Night". Could this further hint at a connection between Demyx and Yozora? Also, some geniuses in the comments noticed that Astrum is almost an anagram of Master, so could Nomura alter the name to Astrem for the double meaning? Still a neat little find, though.
That seems to be the case, I find it strange that his choice of instrument is a sitar however. Perhaps there is a bigger reason as to why, or not who knows at this point. If it interests you I noticed something odd that might be re-contextualized with this whole Quadratum reveal and the world of "Fiction" being a thing. It was strange during base KH3 that Luxord and Demyx have not any designated real names and that still remains to be the case. Perhaps is it possible that Luxord and Demyx are fake names already in the first place? Returning to the Book of Prophecies the Master of Masters made, it has the ability to harness powers from the future in-game as medals and as worlds the player can go into. They are in the same vein as Pooh's storybook, essentially fiction yet they exist as gateways only lasting an impact in the pages of the book. Since Luxord and possibly Demyx are people from Quadratum, that begs the question...how did they get in? Were they in the Unchained State? But that would mean others from Sora's realm should have strong connections to them before. The Master of Masters seems to be a fit but then there is another dilemma there, how can they interact with the world if they are Unchained? So I now then postulate that they went in a similar way, they have the connection and the means seem attainable. That would present its own problems namely, how can they affect reality in Sora's world if it was by going in a fictional world. However the Book of Prophecies spans the events after the Keyblade War as well and by creating the book MOM essentially made Sora's reality into fiction. Time wouldn't even be an issue if the two were in the Unchained State after all they have the connection and they can follow through using it. Perhaps, that was the reason as to why MOM created the books in the first place so that he can hop into the KH world and to Quadratum, easily bypassing the two. Why else would he make them for the Foretellers even though he essentially manipulated them into ruin? The names might not even matter if that is the case, the two act like they are just experiencing and interacting with the story. Sort of like Avatars in a video game. Well, this was a lengthy toss in the ring. There are many holes to my hypothesis that couldn't see. Also, why did I not see you sooner? You have great presentation and scripting as well as a soothing voice. Your work is criminally underrated.
@Abdullah Alluhaidan I don't think so. The X is called the Recusant's Sigil and started with Xemnas and can be used by Xehanort in any of his iterations to track anyone marked with it (any of the Nobodies in Organization XIII or Sora, since he was marked with an X on his clothing). Xehanort got the idea from the Greek letter chi since he's obsessed with creating the X-blade (and the fact his own name had an X in it didn't hurt either). The Master of Masters was born way, WAAAAAAY before Xehanort, so I don't think it's likely his name would have an X except by sheer coincidence.
If you take apart the symbol of the master of masters you get what would resemble Soul Eater, a wing-like like sword, and the nobody symbol. my question is this, can you lose a heart to light in the same you can to darkness.
Awesome Question :) Never Heard Of This Before :) Thanks For Bringing It Up :) I'm Thinking You Can Lose Your Heart The Same Way As You Can In The Darkness :) Cool Concept Of Mom's Symbol :)
Omfg with the update today, maybe Brain ("was") Xigbar and is just pretending to be Luxu because (he lied) and did read the book of prophecies in full. This could mean Demyx did hear the may your heart be your guiding key from Xigbar as he is in fact Brain and not Luxu. The way Brain said it, it was like he had ownership of it like his own personal mantra. Having said all of this, that is not to say Luxu couldn't have body swapped with Brain later on to take on the KH3 identity of Xigbar. As for the naysayers maybe when Brain passed the book unto Ventus he didn't want to create a temporal paradox so he told Ventus he never really read much of it (when in fact he did).
I like the idea that forms can be stolen in quadratum and I wonder if riku appears in a time in quadratum before sora had arrived, and yozora takes his form from him. Maybe riku is the one who tells yozora about sora after he is defeated or something
That would also mean that the timeline of quadratum is definitely not parallel with the ours because yozora in riku’s form is shown in the toybox realm. And also I’m starting to think that the master stole yozora’s original body/form because why else would yozora need to take someone else’s form unless he’s lost his own to somone else?
@@Jinsei24 could either be yozora or the master in that case as we see both the master and yozora in that last scene... If it does happen to be yozora in riku lookalike watching over him form then that makes me even more confused as to why he looks like riku.
This was wonderfully edited! I can’t wait to see more of your work. I just wanted to add that the person who did an impression of MoM saying Moloch scared me. It felt a little too real lol.
If you watch the cutscene from KH3 where kairi reads a letter to Sora during her training with YEN SID - you will see a similiar “light flash” on the screen when kairi says “Sora.” Check it out- pretty strange
This literally the best theory video I've ever seen on the topic. as a die hard fan of both KH and FF, this video was so well researched and the editing is insane! I had to subscribe right away.
Okay so I just had this minor thought with the Astrum name, what if Nomura does a little switch and makes it Astrem instead of the u? If you swap that around it is an anagram of Master. Hmmmmmm
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14:57 "They are looking at each other, just as how we see them" Upon rewatching, this reminded me of "I think I understand. I see myself the way you remember me. And you see yourself the way I remember you."
The only difference is that Yozora doesn't remember Sora because he doesn't know what Sora looks like, only the name. Sora may be seeing Yozora as how he remembers, but it's strange for that to be the case only with Sora exclusively and not Yozora too, hence why I don't think there are any illusions at play. Yozora has been in that form for a while, even outside of his dreams when he wakes up in the car
Honestly The name Moloch would be the coolest one and the most terrifying. I’d pick that one. Edit: so I now realize, he’s related to 4 main things. Light, Ardyn, Pride, and Lucifer His name has to be more close to something that’s related to light. So that actually eliminates Moloch as an option. As cool as that name is it can’t be it. It HAS to be either Sol or Astrum Sol = light/sun Lucifer and pride Astrum = light/star Ardyn and Lucifer (Ardyn was pretty much an equivalent to the Antichrist in FFxv What if his name a combo of both like “astrol” or “solstrum” Unless there’s another word that has a tie to all 4 connections to the master of masters, it has to be either Astrum, sol, or a combination of both
Yozora is a Nobody of his FFvs13 self. We are about to save the next universe in need of Sora and Riku. Everyone in Quadradum (sp?) Will be a Nobody of their FF selves, (his metaphor for what happened with FFXV in reality and how they live on without their hearts). Trapped in a world outside our reality, the lost souls of the these battles of Reality, the ones that didn't fall into darkness. (We may even come across "dead" Disney worlds that need to be revived too) It's time we brought them all home. The player is the Master of Masters. We keep moving through hearts, because we (the player) refuses to sleep/die. In doing so our memories linger in our new vessles and drive them all to madness. To seek immortality. To live on as we have. To fight and die for us. They were all just innocents we devoured. If the player wasn't so selfish and determined to continue on, to see more, to know what comes next, none of this would have come to be. A paradox of our own making. The lives we will come to regret destroying.
Uuuuuuuh ...... I don't remember playing the game as you. LoL Ardyn never got his power strips but only the title he can still absorb darkness till his last breath
This was a really strong theory, and it was great to watch. Though, playing FFXV the parallels don't end with just the characters and their roles. The experiments with the Heartless explained in KH1 and the reports explaining the events of the Star scourge found through Nifilheim on the way to the crystal share very striking similarities. Just like in both cases when a heart turns into a heartless the body disappears, the same thing happens when becoming a daemon and is spread like a pandemic. The artificial heartless and magitech soilders both work on very similar principles as well. And in this case the crystal for lucis and the keyhole are both important keeping their world from falling to darkness. Why bring this up, I'm not entirely convinced all of Nomura's idea were scrapped when making FFXV. Noctis was absolutely supposed to play as a thematic parallel to Sora. And Nomura might still be playing with that idea.
I think that If Versus 13 Was Released As attended they was supposed to be some superboss fight with sora. But now as it turned out Kingdom Hearts has to take the Blunt Of building what would have been Is a 2 game act
Well based on another theory I saw a year ago and what happened in the KHUX story update with darkness saying "we don't like light either". The MoM's name is "Light"
Idk if I can see ardyne as the master of masters. Everything else seemed right, but I think there's something more to the master of masters. "Lost keyblade master" *cough future sora because he never officially became a master* I think yazora could perhaps be trying to save sora from the future that will come. That's my opinion.
Although I'd love Sora to be MoM (it would be cool and a change of pace. A deranged Sora who has lost all hope would be a pretty terrifying villain), there's just so much evidence going against it. MoM's description of his childhood doesn't match up with Sora's and if you watch the Sora section of the vid again, I bring up a few conclusive points. Not saying that he can't be connected to Sora in some way, though. Also I'm not saying he is "literally" Ardyn, just like Yozora isn't "literally" Noctis. I think Nomura reused concepts and plot points from Versus XIII and just revived them into MoM, that's all.
Let’s also not forget that the Toy Story characters thought Sora was Yozora despite him looking almost nothing like him. Maybe our image of sora and what we see isn’t what sora looks like
It is very strange that Rex mistook Sora for Yozora, despite looking nothing like him save for the clothes. In the cut cutscene from the jumpfesta trailer back in 2018, Rex also mistook Donald and Goofy for Magia and Aegis but it was removed from the final product. Yozora says "This isn't what I really look like"... so perhaps before his appearance was changed, he looked a lot more like Sora? That would explain why Rex mistook him. Perhaps in the early game of Verum Rex, Yozora's appearance gets changed to look more like Riku. But the main thing that disproves this is that Yozora never comments on Sora's appearance. If Sora maybe looks like the original Yozora, then he would notice that when they meet and he'd say something about it. Either Rex is a complete and utter idiot or perhaps the toys are actually seeing Yozora from the video game instead of Sora.
@@SonnyNovus it is a tough one to figure out why they thought that, but like you stated, little to nothing has "no relevance" in a Nomura script. There's a reason they mistook Sora for Yozora despite clear differences in appearances (especially with the blocky aesthetic that Sora had in Toy Box). Maybe the same way some people saw Roxas and the really saw Sora and vice versa they are seeing Yozora but someone else's heart that he is housing. Perhaps the form Yozora is now is the equivalent of Roxas to Sora and thus there is a Ven that the image is based off of. Yozora's actual "heart" looks more like Sora than Yozora does and so the Toy Box crowd sees that image instead of the Yozora we see (or something to that effect). Super convoluted but we'd be lying if we didn't say that's par for the course for Nomura.
@@psyborg89 Yeah for sure, it also reminds me of when Xigbar looked at Xion in 358/2 Days, he saw Ven instead. Toy Box is actually a super interesting world, in the fact that Young Xehanort states that it's a "copy" of the real world and the toys were transported there, which is why Andy can't be found. This is the exact same trope used in DDD with the two copies of Traverse Town. Not sure what this all means, but I think YX knows a lot more than we may suspect
Regarding on that final name, I do like how it sounds both Thematically and Narratively. But you have to admit, not everyone is that fluent in Latin to pull out that name and connection. Google translate can only get you so far, after all. My hottest (more like crack) take though is that MoM is Nomura. It would be so far fetched and utterly left-field for Nomura to essentially self-insert himself into the KH universe that it makes some form of sense since he is definitely the type to actually do it. It fulfills a lot of the parallels between the in universe happenings and our universe. The franchise itself can be considered as our Book of Prophecy, where we see(*read*) the happenings of the so called future. No one else can fully disclaim what we ‘think’ in the future because we’re going along Nomura(MoM)’s vision. If we take into consideration the World-lines, Unreality for the characters would be Reality for us. After all, what would be the most removed world line for Sora and the Gang other than what would be dubbed as ‘Fantasy’.
I mean no one is really fluent in Latin unless you study it. Nobody would've known that Ventus is wind or the Foreteller's names are derived from the Latins words for the Seven Deadly Sins. I think Nomura knows his fans will discover the meaning of any name he comes up with lol
@@SonnyNovus Hopefully we’ll get it before 2035... Honestly, the next logical game would either be Verum Rex where we get context out of Yozora’s story because it’s literally one of the very few unfinished plot lines that have been left unanswered. Hopefully, Nomura does pick the name Astrum because it really does sound the best for it...
Hot damn this is awesome. The amount of research and putting the bits together you did really shines through throughout this entire video. Can't wait to see more theories from you.
Okay now hear me out.. what if.. instead of MoM being the equivalent to Ardyn, Luxu is instead the equivalent to Ardyn and MoM is the equivalent to Bahamut
Ay, in XV Ardyn said "you'll never guess who Izunia was," I'm thinking MOM may be Izunia and this is an over arching plot to bridge together KH and FF.
I really like the ideas that you brought out with this theory. You have great editing, are very descriptive, and the whole thing was visually fantastic. Easy sub from me!
This is a truly terrific video; extremely compelling, well edited, and you have a great speaking voice. Looking forward to potentially more content from you. Earned yourself a sub.
It’s gems like this video that are the reason I love YT. I love everything about this video. The visual presentation, your vocal delivery & the background music choice- especially the ones from Dark Cloud, one of my favorite games of all time. With a like, favorite and subscribe I eagerly await the next video you produce.
Aww, thanks a bunch. It honestly means quite a lot to me that you'd say that. Dark Cloud and KH were actually the very first PS2 games I played at my cousin's house as a wee child, so those two games are closely connected in my brain. SUCH a good ost, too! It just gives the video a unique sense of identity to contrast slapping a familiar KH track everyone knows and calling it a day lol My next video is coming very soon, so see you then!!
While this theory is amazing, I'm not entirely swayed for one reason: Yozora is, in the realm of Kingdom Hearts, a fictional character. The same applies to other characters in his world. If Quadratum is considered fictional (The Ending of Melody of Memory confirms that), how exactly could the Keyblade War extend to a world that doesn't exist? Until Nomura shows us a way that fictional realms can be tied to the Keyblade War and a way that fictional characters can be made real (which would have to be possible if Demyx, Luxord, and Sol/Moloch/Astrem are from Quadratum) Then I will believe you. Thanks for the theory!
I wouldn't say it's confirmed, but rather speculated by characters like Ansem. We don't really know what the other side is, nor do we know what Unreality thinks of Reality. They could believe themselves to be real with Sora being a "cartoon" character in Yozora's universe or something. We just don't have enough information to gauge that. Besides, if it is just a world of fiction, that doesn't really have any bearing on the "Keyblade legacy" being a part of both universes. On Yozora's sleeve we can see a skull and crossbones, with the bones being Keyblades and the skull have Sora's hair. So Keyblades have at least some significance in Yozora's universe. and if Xemnas says it slumbers within Luxord, and Luxord's somebody is from Unreality, then by proxy it must be a part of Unreality too. If Keyblade wielders like Sora, Riku, MoM etc can make it there, then I'd bet that many others have made it there through the ages and possibly still reside there. Also, I don't believe MoM is FROM Unreality, but rather has been there for at least some time. In KHUX, his conversation with Darkness suggests that he discovered "a world I can't even conceive" around that time, and I believe him disappearing was him crossing over like Sora did in KH3.
@@SonnyNovus Master of Masters probably has been to Unreality before, but the somebodies of Demyx and Luxord don't necessarily have to be from there. Remember, Nomura lead us to believe that Xehanort was from Destiny Islands at first. It's possible that the two were born in Reality but were living in Unreality at the time they were turned into Demyx and Luxord, as recompletion takes place at the same place where someone was split. Xehanort is probably powerful enough to have been to Unreality multiple times, as Dream Drop Distance states that he is one of the most powerful Keyblade Masters ever to live. How the somebodies of Demyx and Luxord, if they aren't from Quadratum, got to Quadratum is a mystery in and of itself. (Banishment?) The significance of the Keyblade could be a result of MoM meddling with the affairs of Quadratum, spreading its significance in that world, even if it is fictional within the KH Universe. Why would he do that? He probably wanted to spread his influence as far as it can. Maybe he brought Demyx and Luxord with him as extra apprentices? Or, if the both of them are naturally from Quadratum, MoM could have gave them Keyblades to spread the familiarity of the Keyblade, making them part of the Keyblade legacy. Add in Xehanort's familiarity with the lost masters and his power, it's not hard to imagine him knowing this fact and crossing over to get them using a form of his. Of course, the idea of fictional characters being made real still applies if Demyx and Luxord are from Quadratum.
@@FromElsewhear I mean, Luxord doesn't NEED to be a Quadratum native, it doesn't matter at the end of the day. To be honest, we don't know enough to make any concrete points about origins or extra significance. But if we assume that Luxord's somebody was recompleted in Quadratum after KH3, then he must've at least resided there before major events in the series took place. Whether he was born and raised there or not is irrelevant. I only mention Luxord because Demyx is an even bigger mystery. We have no idea where he's from (I should state that I don't really believe in the Demyx section of this video anymore.) I agree that Xehanort not only knows about Unreality, but has totally been there quite a few times. It's the only way he'd be able to get Luxord and Demyx back intro Reality
Except the Master Of Masters calls Qaudratum "a world even he couldn't conceive". Which, makes me doubt that the MoM has any idea about the nature of "Unreality", and what it is, much less the people from it. Ironically, Xehanort has the most contact with/understanding of this Unreality, besides probably Yozora himself. It will be interesting to see what Dark Road illuminates for us to see in his dark past.
We don't know if the "world he can't even conceive" is actually Quadratum, we have no idea what the Master is talking about definitively there. He could be talking about the Unchained Realm or even just the future of which Sora changed through going back in time to prevent the prophecy of light expiring. Even if he is talking about Quadratum, we also don't know how time works between the two universes, much less for the MoM himself (it's evident that he has deeper knowledge of not only time travel, but also hopping between the two universes). We see MoM refer to a world he can't even conceive, but remember, that was said in the time of fairy tales. It's very possible that he's been far too acquainted with Quadratum since that cutscene took place. For him, it could've been centuries before we see him in the secret ending of KH3. Ephemer also appears to Sora through the Unchained Realm, which is leading to be a dreamscape that transcends time and space. Whether MoM is an entity from Unreality or has been overlooking both sides for quite some time now, we don't know. As for Xehanort knowing ways to get Luxord/Demyx from "Unreality" to "Reality" is still a complete mystery. It's totally clear that Xehanort has some knowledge of the other side, but just how vast that knowledge is isn't clear yet. I doubt he would know about Yozora.
That's the thing, MoM definitely has to have some knowledge of Unreality since Darkness even states that he's not from Daybreak Town. I don't think he would tell Darkness the truth about Unreality unless he is trying to trap Darkness there or something. He even told Darkness that he would never allow it to read anything that important in the BoP. I feel like he is trying to guide Darkness into a trap after Daybreak Town falls.
I think in the end KH will be super simple. Nomura has made his storyline so "complicated" and "guessable" ON PURPOSE. He wants all of us to be guessing and theorizing the outcomes of the series, just so he can come back, and smack us all right in the face with simplicity. Its simple. It has to be.
What character(s) are you referring to? I think I only stated that Luxord/Demyx are "from" Quadratum. I knew MoM wasn't from Quadratum before I made the video. What I'm saying is that MoM has been residing in Quadratum ever since he disappeared. Of course he has time based abilities and knows about the grander rules of the universe, but UX is a prequel. We see him first discover Unreality and taunt Darkness about it, but by the time we see him in KH3's secret ending, he has been more than acquainted with Unreality since the days of UX. He could easily still be responsible for a lot of what's been happening in Quadratum in recent years. UX was set eons ago.
@@SonnyNovus Demyx and Luxord I don't think they were from Quadratum I think they were sent there in the life boats and made it back after. Terranort said to Kiari that should would find herself in unreality if his theory was incorrect, if she did not have an anchor I believe, someone to remember her. But that could also mean that someone in Quadratum remembered Luxord and Demyx and that's why they ended up in Quadratum but I like to believe that it is the first reason.
Damn this was a good one man. First vid too? You ever done content before like on an older channel? You seem way too experienced to be completely new but either way great job! I'm not sure how long it takes to put videos like this together, but the effort shows for sure
If you think about it, Luxord has the least screen time of all Organization XIII members, yet he is so rememberable and charismatic that his voice can immediately be recognized from a few words.
so in light of the second half of the finale, do you think, after some revision in specific places that aren't [directly] relevant, that this theory still holds water?
Yep, I don't see why it doesn't. Nothing was actively disproved. In fact, the finale gave certain things more substance. The Japanese asterisk symbol MoM uses when referring to Quaratum; Asterisk is derived from Star. Aster, Astrum. He's also referenced a "sun setting" mutliple times in his conversations with Luxu: "The sun will set over this duskless dawn" and stuff like that. We still don't know about Demyx, we still don't know how Quadratum ties into all of this. The finale left as many questions unanswered as it did answer them. Also, UX is in the age of fairy tales. We now have confirmation that MoM knows the existence of Unreality. In fact, he speaks about it as if he was the one responsible for it; "A place where even Darkness can't reach" and "People want to believe in a place after death, so I want to believe in that too". Not saying he definitely is, but by the time he has that last conversation with Darkness, he is more than acquainted with the idea at least. Pair this with the huge time gap between UX and current day, and chances are MoM has been in Unreality if he hasn't been on our side.
what if worlds can die and become "unreality" like people become heartless, and this is versus XIII's world that never was and was put down an alternate path
31:20 The 7 doors could even be represented by the 7 black pieces as seen in the cutscene of Xehanort being shown a new game by Eraqus. 7 Pieces of Dark and 1 White King. 7 Dark Doors and 1 Light Moloch. This is further fueled by a bunch of the black pieces having tops that represent each of the union leaders, all sharing animals symbolically tied to the 7 deadly sins, as well as 1 representing the heartless symbol (Riku possibly due to how prominently it is on his keyblade up until KH3, or possibly representing the door to darkness that Riku helped close) and 1 which is hard to discern the exact shape of due to the camera angles.
The 7 black pieces are the five foretellers, Luxu and the MoM. Five pieces all with the union animals, Luxu with his goat symbol and MoM with his symbol as seen on the book of prophecies. Sora is the single white piece. It'll be really interesting to see how the foretellers will antagonize Sora, seeing as how they don't seem inherently evil when we see them in Back Cover and KH3. Ugh, personally I'd LOVE for his name to be Moloch. It just sounds sick lol
Hey what if when yozora says that isn't what he really looks like what if he changed appearances like how sora does when he travels to another world. Since in one of the trailers sora looks real what if yozora was made into what he looks like now.
Im convinced MoM is light personified or an agent of light of some sort. Im also convinced that when he disappeared he did something along the lines of a light version of heartless/nobody turning into Yen Sid and Merlin alike. That OR just Yen Sid is MoM, or at least tightly acquainted, and heres some reasons why i beleive that: Yen Sid is a keyblade master, so where did his keyblade go? He gave it to Luxu. Also Yen Sid creates new keyblades for Riku, and Mickey, and (as far as I know) the only person known to be able to CREATE keyblades was MoM. In KH3 the ONLY time you see Yen Sid anywhere but seated in his chair is in the Keyblade graveyard when he descends from the sky as a ball of light then uses light to part the sea of darkness like friggin Moses. I think Nomura intentionally wanted us to be reminded of Moses in that scene. Also in KH3 one of the loading screens is Mickey saying "the second youre not looking Master Yen Sid's tower pops up someplace new. Who'd have thought he has a playful side?" Well in KHUX Chirithy narrator says "in the Master's playful and mischievous way he gave his apprentice, Luxu, a very important role." I dont think thats a coincidence either. BOTH Yen Sid AND Merlin just CREATED worlds outside of the normal constraints of time for every other world in the realm of light. That right there could explain where MoM disappeared to. Merlin's bag of infinite space is (presumably) a lot like the black box. In KH3 when you meet up with Merlin at the bistro he says "this side of Big Ben". I believe that to be very intentional because obviously Big Ben is in London IRL. Quadratum is modeled after Shabuya in Tokyo. "This side" may be referring to what Ansem the wise called "our side" and the other side of Big Ben being "unreality". Was Merlin letting slip that he's had tea on the other side (unreality/quadratum)? I believe so. Im also quite surprised no one has pointed out the "quad" as in a 4 sided square in quadratum. Light, dark, inbetween, and QUADratum ("unreality") being the 4th side. At the very least i believe Yen Sid at the very least acquainted with MoM in a big way because of the two most obvious clues that should be slapping every KH junkie in the face: the first is the skull with the melting candle ontop is on both Yen Sid's AND MoM's desk, and the most damning of all is Yen Sid's book thats always open with wierd symbols that look an awful lot like any sneek peak we ever got at the Book of Prophecies. NOT TO MENTION in KH2 he lets you read its 3 sections: The Beginning, Interlude, and The FUTURE STORY!!!! YEN SID HAS A BOOK OF FRIGGIN PROPHECIES! Which would explain why Yen Sid was so obsessed with Sora obtaining the Power of Waking so he can further his plot in Quadratum! It couldnt have had anything to do with waking Ventus. Riku had the power of waking the whole damn time. He could have done it. One last point: as far as I know the only characters to ever say "may your heart be your guiding key" are ones that have ties to the age of fairytales, yet Yen Sid utters it right before they depart for the keyblade graveyard in KH3, and at the very beginning Goofy says he always used to say it. Im sure i could find many other small reasons why I believe Yen Sid (and possibly Merlin as well) IS the Master of Masters. At the very least I think (unless Nomura does something stupid) its pretty undeniable Yen Sid is, or was, at the very least intimately intertwined with MoM. If you actually read this whole comment please let me know what you think about my theory! Add some supporting clues, or point out holes and flaws! As far as i can tell theres only one youtube video about this theory, but its not very in depth or compelling, and i would LOVE to see some attention brought to the points ive made here! Thanks for reading, Champ!
I love this video, I have rewatched it dozens of times. You are doing a great job! As a religion/ history buff I appreciate your study of mythology and history.. The quality of the editing is stellar, your passion for the material is amazing and has gotten me into KH lore. Keep it up my friend!
Soooo I just reached 100 subs. I wanted to say that the reception from this video has been fantastic and I am over the moon with all of the kind words you guys have written! It honestly means a damn lot, so from the bottom of my vessel's heart, I thank you. I hope to see all of you in my upcoming videos if you choose to stick around
You deserve it. I’m 7 minutes in and I’m loving it so far because you aren’t just grasping at straws
I finished it last night and oh my God you seriously found multiple names in that edit to where you make him say the names amazes every single time. I really wonder how you did it and this theory is the best one that I’ve seen other than though he is light theory
@@henoccharlot708 Haha thanks for the kind words! The voice impression is all thanks to the voice actor Chris Burns. He did those names specifically for this video
Man I cant believe it. Was just recommended your video after watching all the people you mention, but your theory blows all the others out of the water. Really looking forward to your next Braig video. I'd like to ask if there's any chance you'd talk about more paralels between VS XII and Verum Rex, or how TWEWY fits in the next KH stories. Big props to you and I will share this around!
@@SpanishEchidna Thank you for the kind words friendo. It appears you've seen the Braig/Luxu thumbnail on my twitter feed! That was originally going to be my next video, but I've pushed it back to 3rd video since I'm working on something else currently. It's coming along nicely, should be out later this month. Can't wait for you to see it!!
When you think about it, Sol can also be an acronym of "Seeker Of Light"
Yep! A few people in the comments mentioned that! Also, Astrum can also be altered to Astrem, which is an anagram for Master
Also,in Latin derived languages like Spanish and Portuguese,Sol means sun
Best theory
his names gonna be something simple like Jim
If it was Bob, that would be true humour.
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That does sound like a Nomura thing lol.
His name could be Sam
S. Sol
A. Astrum
M. Moloch
@@mechashadow Bob of Bobs
Ardyn had to take demons into his body. The master of masters spoke of taking in darkness without letting it control him.
Something I only just noticed after about my sixth time watching this video is that the "Darkness" in Kingdom Hearts kind of operates similarly to the starscourge in 15. Not sure if the starscourge was a Nomura or Tabata inclusion, but it just reminds me of how Ardyn was initially absorbing it from other people to heal them but it wound up being part of the reason that he ended up the way he did. And the Master of Masters plan is to have the Darkness absorbed into himself and the Foretellers in order to get rid of it.
It seems darkness is a concept that exists in most FF games just with different names, Sin in FFX, geostigma in FF7 etc they are all very similar ideas
This is a truly amazing video! The editing is flawless, I love the idea of MoM being Arden, and just all of it is an excellent video. Thank you for the credit, though I would have settled for the link in the description. It's the first time I've been given a shout out on RUclips. I've already subscribed, and I can't wait to see what else you come up with!
It was my pleasure!! And likewise. That entire Demyx section wouldn't exist if it weren't for you.
@@SonnyNovus If you ever want to collab, let me know. Best way to reach me right now is email, pajamaletsplay@gmail.com. I just recorded a video about the Norse Gods in Dark Road, but I noticed that mention of Niflheim with Arden, so there's probably something there.
@@pajamaletsplay9859 That will definitely be something I will consider in the future! Right now I have a slew of different videos and topics planned, one of which I'm working on as we speak. I'll be sure to write it down in my plans. Thanks so much for watching my video and best of luck with your future projects!!
The Demyx one makes too much sense. Nomura is a mad man
"This is a fantasy based on reality" gives me chills.
Keep coming back to this video, I love it.
You're a new youtuber, and your work is incredible. Great video edit and a nice calm voice. All that makes watching your videos incredibly satisfying. Looking forward to more content from you, you earned a new subscriber just by watching 30 seconds of this!
Just earned my sub. Theory: Ardyn states in FF15 that you’ll never guess whose name Izunia was. Possibly MoM’s?
Dark cloud music at begining love it
Trapped in a Infinite loop of the MOM telling Xehanort his name 😎😅
How often do l make jokes about chemistry? Periodically.
Astrem, anagram for Master, would be the ultimate checkmate move in this multi-dimensional chess game that is Kingdom Hearts lol
I was thinking exactly the same thing!
it would also sound similar to astrum
“There is no U in Astrem, cause you aren’t a part of it and my plans.”
9000 IQ
That would be cool
Nomura watching this video be like "welp time to scrap that name"
Rewatching this vid for the second time. I seriously mean it when is say this - I cannot wait for more content from you. Literally anything.. just wanna hear your thoughts. I appreciate KHs lore so much and bearing other people talk about it is just so satisfying.
I hope in future videos you brush on why yozora looks like riku etc.
Take care!
It humbles me that you'd take the time out of your day to watch my vid for a second time, so I sincerely thank you!!
I have a long list of videos that I'll be cracking on with (around 15 on my list so far!) and I've been editing my 2nd video ever since this one dropped, which should be released at the end of this month or early May.
One of the videos on my list will be specifically around Riku and his role. I won't spoil it for you, but Yozora will definitely play a part. Thank you for sticking around
It’s quite awesome
I mean, we all know the real reason that Yozora looks like Riku is that both look the way they do because Nomura is still salty about FFVSXIII.
Best MoM identity theory I've seen yet! One thing though: Yozora asking Sora why he's using "Sora's" name actually lends to the idea that Yozora does know a Sora that doesn't look like our Sora (you interpreted it as the opposite). For example, Yozora could know an older Sora (future Sora) or a vessel that houses Sora's heart or a piece of his heart. Yozora is surprised Sora is using the name Sora, but by asking why Sora is using Sora's name, it makes it sound like he has met a Sora that is not the Sora standing in front of him (does that make sense). Basically, he has met a Sora that is not the present Sora.
I actually think this exchange lends a lot to the theory that MoM is the future Sora (even though I'm not fully convinced of that theory myself) just because of Yozora's reaction: if MoM is the Ardyn of Quadratum and Yozora is the Noctis, then they would be enemies. If Yozora were to meet a younger MoM (or Noctis met a younger Ardyn), would Yozora not try to save him from his fate? The whole Yozora conversation and the two endings would make a lot of sense in that context.
EDIT: I do think that MoM has an original name, though. It makes sense this would be the case (I love the options you presented: they're all great contenders). I just think it's possible Yozora knows a different version of Sora and that Sora has ties to MoM in some way. Also, I've always personally believed that Yozora was MoM's nobody. But that's another theory altogether.
Thank you!! Those are some kind words; I hope you'll stick around
Interesting 🤔
He does say why are you using “sora’s name” as if to say that he knows for sure that the name belongs to someone else...
He definitely knows of a sora for sure, wether or not he’s met anyone named sora is to be debated.
@@SonnyNovus that thing you said about quadratum possibly being set in a the future of a timeline where darkness won against light like the BoP predicts... that’s very interesting. And I have something to add to that (you probably already got it figured out tho lol)
When sora time traveled/used the power of waking for the first time, what happened to the timeline that he left? It most likely got conquered by darkness because sora pretty much disappears. And there probably were legends and fairy tales about it that yozora has heard of (probably heard the stories from the person who told him to save sora) And he’s probably thinking to himself “if sora hadn’t had disappeared, we would be in a better timeline”. Which is why he looks a little mad or disappointed when he says “sure... I’ve heard of you”
So anyways, quadratum isn’t just unreality/fiction, it’s a whole other timeline that we could’ve seen if sora wasn’t the main character that we were following.
Looks like the master has already succeeded in his plans to defeat all the darkness, at least in one timeline, he’s probably also trying to get rid of darkness across all timelines. Not exactly sure how it works, but it’s just that he needed ONE timeline where darkness failed, in order to erase the darkness in the whole universe
Just something I thought I’d add to it. This is all so interesting and I can’t wait till we get the next kingdom hearts game
@@Z-A-C Yeah, I'm thinking that he knows the name Sora like we all know of the name "Jesus" for example. We don't literally know a guy named Jesus or have met him, but we are familiar with the name.
The reason why I say Jesus is because the skull and crossbones on Yozora's sleeve are modeled after Sora's head (hair) and two Keyblades, symbolizing Sora's death. This leads me to believe that the Book of Prophecies is like a bible, and the guardians of light (Sora, Riku, Mickey etc) are all martyr figures and worshiped for their bravery in the Keyblade war. So Quadratum could be the distant future of either Data Daybreak town or the future where Sora lost and never changed his fate.
But analyzing Yozora's dialogue, it's pretty clear he doesn't know anybody using the name personally because he's so impartial. He just accepts Sora with lines like "If you are who you say" and "Sora? You're Sora? Sure, I've heard of you."
I really like Sol, since it could also be used as an acronym for “Seeker of Light”
Here I thought you were a seasoned veteran in the war of RUclips content creation with a vast archive of content I could peruse. Instead I find I am fortunate to witness a legend in the making.
This was a wonderful video and I can't wait to see more. You have my subscription and attention.
Bro I thought the same thing. Like this is the mans FIRST video. How the fuck do you even improve from here? This dudes gunna be an absolute legend.
Me too!! I just found this and expected a backlogs of videos
The thing that most people don't know about Square is that a lot of ideas/stories they created were reused for future titles. FFVII created 3 other Final Fantasy games after it, when the staff did the story's concepts synopsize for the FFVII pitches and even Nomura created the character in Tifa after the story beats were already laid out for FFVII well into pre-production.
FFVIII son Father dynamics were used. FFX world was the idea pitched for FFVII originally.
So Nomura reusing his original story for Verse XIII in Kingdom Hearts might sound crazy but it's not an uncommon practice for the company at all. They've had a history of weaving new stories from story seeds from other game pitches. ;)
Waste not, after all.
This is incredibly well edited, and you bring up points I never thought of before!
Well done, this is great.
I feel like Sol has the highest chance since we’re dealing and it’s also a sound synonym, nice editing~
Dealing with hearts* ironically
Astrum could also be an anagram for Master. Astrum -> Mastur. just a little interesting insight haha
Ooooo!
This was beautiful, loved your work here man 😭😭
Im gonna mention how yozora was gonna save sora by basically trapping him for all eternity. Can it be that sora's fate is being the ardyn of the story and yozora just wants to save him just by intervening like that? We know mom is shown in quadratum
28th sub and 28th like! Phenomenal first video. Great presentation. You put some great ideas out there, particularly with the research you did into the Master's name, those are some suggestions I ain't ever heard before and you presented a convincing case for them all. But yeah I'm gonna have to strongly disagree with you on that nameless star bit! 😁 But your counterpoints were fair and expressed well. I look forward to seeing what else you come out with.
Oh wow, you were one of the few inspirations for me to start making KH videos in the first place, so it means the world to me that you enjoyed the video!! (Your name is in the end part of the video if you didn't happen to catch it) Even though I've heard the Sora/Nameless Star theory from a few places, you were definitely the person in mind when writing that section. I suppose only time will tell, eh? Glad you're sticking around for what else I have in store and thanks for watching
@@SonnyNovus Ah I missed that. Thanks a lot for the mention! Feels weird seeing my name in someone else's video, and even weirder that you said I was one of your inspirations. I know I got videos from over a year ago, but I only started getting serious about these videos in November, so I'm still a newbie to this myself, so to hear that I've inspired anyone is flattering. And ofc I'm sticking around man, I have no doubt you'll continue to produce some great stuff
this is an incredible theory. the editing was done so well and you brought a lot to light that even had me me like “OH WAIT” cause things started clicking. hope to see something taken out of your theory into the future games. keep up the incredible work. :)
Thank you for the kind words
Honestly, I love the whole thing with the repeated Master of Masters clip. It's so creative, and so compelling. I could watch this video multiple times, it's just so good. Makes me want to make something like this too. Awesome work!
Thank you for the kind words, friendo
A few more little anecdotes for you guys:
What is Demyx's title in the Organization? The Melodious Nocturne. It basically means "Melody of the Night". Could this further hint at a connection between Demyx and Yozora?
Also, some geniuses in the comments noticed that Astrum is almost an anagram of Master, so could Nomura alter the name to Astrem for the double meaning? Still a neat little find, though.
That seems to be the case, I find it strange that his choice of instrument is a sitar however. Perhaps there is a bigger reason as to why, or not who knows at this point.
If it interests you I noticed something odd that might be re-contextualized with this whole Quadratum reveal and the world of "Fiction" being a thing.
It was strange during base KH3 that Luxord and Demyx have not any designated real names and that still remains to be the case. Perhaps is it possible that Luxord and Demyx are fake names already in the first place?
Returning to the Book of Prophecies the Master of Masters made, it has the ability to harness powers from the future in-game as medals and as worlds the player can go into. They are in the same vein as Pooh's storybook, essentially fiction yet they exist as gateways only lasting an impact in the pages of the book.
Since Luxord and possibly Demyx are people from Quadratum, that begs the question...how did they get in? Were they in the Unchained State? But that would mean others from Sora's realm should have strong connections to them before.
The Master of Masters seems to be a fit but then there is another dilemma there, how can they interact with the world if they are Unchained? So I now then postulate that they went in a similar way, they have the connection and the means seem attainable.
That would present its own problems namely, how can they affect reality in Sora's world if it was by going in a fictional world. However the Book of Prophecies spans the events after the Keyblade War as well and by creating the book MOM essentially made Sora's reality into fiction. Time wouldn't even be an issue if the two were in the Unchained State after all they have the connection and they can follow through using it.
Perhaps, that was the reason as to why MOM created the books in the first place so that he can hop into the KH world and to Quadratum, easily bypassing the two. Why else would he make them for the Foretellers even though he essentially manipulated them into ruin?
The names might not even matter if that is the case, the two act like they are just experiencing and interacting with the story. Sort of like Avatars in a video game.
Well, this was a lengthy toss in the ring. There are many holes to my hypothesis that couldn't see.
Also, why did I not see you sooner? You have great presentation and scripting as well as a soothing voice. Your work is criminally underrated.
@Abdullah Alluhaidan I don't think so. The X is called the Recusant's Sigil and started with Xemnas and can be used by Xehanort in any of his iterations to track anyone marked with it (any of the Nobodies in Organization XIII or Sora, since he was marked with an X on his clothing). Xehanort got the idea from the Greek letter chi since he's obsessed with creating the X-blade (and the fact his own name had an X in it didn't hurt either). The Master of Masters was born way, WAAAAAAY before Xehanort, so I don't think it's likely his name would have an X except by sheer coincidence.
Maybe the master could even have some relation to the nameless star, maybe being her father
just imagined Prompto saying "Dance bullets dance!" while blasting at the enemies and yeah, I hope the Demyx part is true, it would be awesome.
I read this in David Bowie’s singing voice…
OK I LITERALLY CRIED TWICE WATCHIN THIS AND I AM LEFT WITH ONE QUOTE:
"OK I BELIEVE YOU" I will see myself out
Grow up
If you take apart the symbol of the master of masters you get what would resemble Soul Eater, a wing-like like sword, and the nobody symbol. my question is this, can you lose a heart to light in the same you can to darkness.
Awesome Question :) Never Heard Of This Before :) Thanks For Bringing It Up :) I'm Thinking You Can Lose Your Heart The Same Way As You Can In The Darkness :) Cool Concept Of Mom's Symbol :)
Hmmm good question 🤔
THIS THEORY IS SO UNDERRATED WTF
Omfg with the update today, maybe Brain ("was") Xigbar and is just pretending to be Luxu because (he lied) and did read the book of prophecies in full. This could mean Demyx did hear the may your heart be your guiding key from Xigbar as he is in fact Brain and not Luxu.
The way Brain said it, it was like he had ownership of it like his own personal mantra. Having said all of this, that is not to say Luxu couldn't have body swapped with Brain later on to take on the KH3 identity of Xigbar.
As for the naysayers maybe when Brain passed the book unto Ventus he didn't want to create a temporal paradox so he told Ventus he never really read much of it (when in fact he did).
Incredible theory, incredible editing, what can I say, it’s briliant! I hope you will bless us with more videos in the future.
Thanks for the kind words! And absolutely, I have a long list of theories I'm working on tirelessly. I'm glad you're along for the ride :)
@@SonnyNovus Ah that’s great news, I can’t wait ;)
I like the idea that forms can be stolen in quadratum and I wonder if riku appears in a time in quadratum before sora had arrived, and yozora takes his form from him. Maybe riku is the one who tells yozora about sora after he is defeated or something
That would also mean that the timeline of quadratum is definitely not parallel with the ours because yozora in riku’s form is shown in the toybox realm. And also I’m starting to think that the master stole yozora’s original body/form because why else would yozora need to take someone else’s form unless he’s lost his own to somone else?
@@Jinsei24 could either be yozora or the master in that case as we see both the master and yozora in that last scene... If it does happen to be yozora in riku lookalike watching over him form then that makes me even more confused as to why he looks like riku.
It would seem you have years of experience doing this RUclips thing! Amazing video, subbed. Keep at it bro
This was wonderfully edited! I can’t wait to see more of your work.
I just wanted to add that the person who did an impression of MoM saying Moloch scared me. It felt a little too real lol.
If you watch the cutscene from KH3 where kairi reads a letter to Sora during her training with YEN SID - you will see a similiar “light flash” on the screen when kairi says “Sora.”
Check it out- pretty strange
I think this will give you more proof to the MoM name.
oooo I'll be sure to check that out, thanks for the heads up!
This literally the best theory video I've ever seen on the topic. as a die hard fan of both KH and FF, this video was so well researched and the editing is insane! I had to subscribe right away.
I second that
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Okay so I just had this minor thought with the Astrum name, what if Nomura does a little switch and makes it Astrem instead of the u? If you swap that around it is an anagram of Master. Hmmmmmm
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14:57 "They are looking at each other, just as how we see them"
Upon rewatching, this reminded me of
"I think I understand. I see myself the way you remember me. And you see yourself the way I remember you."
The only difference is that Yozora doesn't remember Sora because he doesn't know what Sora looks like, only the name.
Sora may be seeing Yozora as how he remembers, but it's strange for that to be the case only with Sora exclusively and not Yozora too, hence why I don't think there are any illusions at play. Yozora has been in that form for a while, even outside of his dreams when he wakes up in the car
Oh yeah 🤣 I remember that line
Honestly The name Moloch would be the coolest one and the most terrifying. I’d pick that one.
Edit: so I now realize, he’s related to 4 main things. Light, Ardyn, Pride, and Lucifer
His name has to be more close to something that’s related to light.
So that actually eliminates Moloch as an option. As cool as that name is it can’t be it.
It HAS to be either Sol or Astrum
Sol = light/sun Lucifer and pride
Astrum = light/star Ardyn and Lucifer (Ardyn was pretty much an equivalent to the Antichrist in FFxv
What if his name a combo of both like “astrol” or “solstrum”
Unless there’s another word that has a tie to all 4 connections to the master of masters, it has to be either Astrum, sol, or a combination of both
Yozora is a Nobody of his FFvs13 self. We are about to save the next universe in need of Sora and Riku. Everyone in Quadradum (sp?) Will be a Nobody of their FF selves, (his metaphor for what happened with FFXV in reality and how they live on without their hearts). Trapped in a world outside our reality, the lost souls of the these battles of Reality, the ones that didn't fall into darkness. (We may even come across "dead" Disney worlds that need to be revived too)
It's time we brought them all home.
The player is the Master of Masters. We keep moving through hearts, because we (the player) refuses to sleep/die. In doing so our memories linger in our new vessles and drive them all to madness. To seek immortality. To live on as we have. To fight and die for us. They were all just innocents we devoured.
If the player wasn't so selfish and determined to continue on, to see more, to know what comes next, none of this would have come to be. A paradox of our own making. The lives we will come to regret destroying.
Also, Astrum, Eyes like a Hawk. Eye of Providence.
Plus move the letters around like with nobody's and astrum could be mastur
Uuuuuuuh ...... I don't remember playing the game as you. LoL Ardyn never got his power strips but only the title he can still absorb darkness till his last breath
This was a really strong theory, and it was great to watch.
Though, playing FFXV the parallels don't end with just the characters and their roles. The experiments with the Heartless explained in KH1 and the reports explaining the events of the Star scourge found through Nifilheim on the way to the crystal share very striking similarities. Just like in both cases when a heart turns into a heartless the body disappears, the same thing happens when becoming a daemon and is spread like a pandemic. The artificial heartless and magitech soilders both work on very similar principles as well. And in this case the crystal for lucis and the keyhole are both important keeping their world from falling to darkness.
Why bring this up, I'm not entirely convinced all of Nomura's idea were scrapped when making FFXV. Noctis was absolutely supposed to play as a thematic parallel to Sora. And Nomura might still be playing with that idea.
Have you looked at Baldr and Lady Lunareya's brother? They look similar.
Regarding the star symbolism there is an old Disney movie called The Black Hole and we know how black holes are born. From the death of a star.
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I think that If Versus 13 Was Released As attended they was supposed to be some superboss fight with sora.
But now as it turned out Kingdom Hearts has to take the Blunt Of building what would have been Is a 2 game act
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Well based on another theory I saw a year ago and what happened in the KHUX story update with darkness saying "we don't like light either". The MoM's name is "Light"
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Idk if I can see ardyne as the master of masters. Everything else seemed right, but I think there's something more to the master of masters. "Lost keyblade master" *cough future sora because he never officially became a master* I think yazora could perhaps be trying to save sora from the future that will come. That's my opinion.
Although I'd love Sora to be MoM (it would be cool and a change of pace. A deranged Sora who has lost all hope would be a pretty terrifying villain), there's just so much evidence going against it. MoM's description of his childhood doesn't match up with Sora's and if you watch the Sora section of the vid again, I bring up a few conclusive points. Not saying that he can't be connected to Sora in some way, though.
Also I'm not saying he is "literally" Ardyn, just like Yozora isn't "literally" Noctis. I think Nomura reused concepts and plot points from Versus XIII and just revived them into MoM, that's all.
Let’s also not forget that the Toy Story characters thought Sora was Yozora despite him looking almost nothing like him. Maybe our image of sora and what we see isn’t what sora looks like
It is very strange that Rex mistook Sora for Yozora, despite looking nothing like him save for the clothes. In the cut cutscene from the jumpfesta trailer back in 2018, Rex also mistook Donald and Goofy for Magia and Aegis but it was removed from the final product.
Yozora says "This isn't what I really look like"... so perhaps before his appearance was changed, he looked a lot more like Sora? That would explain why Rex mistook him. Perhaps in the early game of Verum Rex, Yozora's appearance gets changed to look more like Riku.
But the main thing that disproves this is that Yozora never comments on Sora's appearance. If Sora maybe looks like the original Yozora, then he would notice that when they meet and he'd say something about it. Either Rex is a complete and utter idiot or perhaps the toys are actually seeing Yozora from the video game instead of Sora.
@@SonnyNovus it is a tough one to figure out why they thought that, but like you stated, little to nothing has "no relevance" in a Nomura script. There's a reason they mistook Sora for Yozora despite clear differences in appearances (especially with the blocky aesthetic that Sora had in Toy Box). Maybe the same way some people saw Roxas and the really saw Sora and vice versa they are seeing Yozora but someone else's heart that he is housing. Perhaps the form Yozora is now is the equivalent of Roxas to Sora and thus there is a Ven that the image is based off of. Yozora's actual "heart" looks more like Sora than Yozora does and so the Toy Box crowd sees that image instead of the Yozora we see (or something to that effect). Super convoluted but we'd be lying if we didn't say that's par for the course for Nomura.
@@psyborg89 Yeah for sure, it also reminds me of when Xigbar looked at Xion in 358/2 Days, he saw Ven instead.
Toy Box is actually a super interesting world, in the fact that Young Xehanort states that it's a "copy" of the real world and the toys were transported there, which is why Andy can't be found. This is the exact same trope used in DDD with the two copies of Traverse Town. Not sure what this all means, but I think YX knows a lot more than we may suspect
Unless they literally see him as Yozora 🤣
Regarding on that final name, I do like how it sounds both Thematically and Narratively. But you have to admit, not everyone is that fluent in Latin to pull out that name and connection. Google translate can only get you so far, after all.
My hottest (more like crack) take though is that MoM is Nomura. It would be so far fetched and utterly left-field for Nomura to essentially self-insert himself into the KH universe that it makes some form of sense since he is definitely the type to actually do it.
It fulfills a lot of the parallels between the in universe happenings and our universe.
The franchise itself can be considered as our Book of Prophecy, where we see(*read*) the happenings of the so called future. No one else can fully disclaim what we ‘think’ in the future because we’re going along Nomura(MoM)’s vision. If we take into consideration the World-lines, Unreality for the characters would be Reality for us. After all, what would be the most removed world line for Sora and the Gang other than what would be dubbed as ‘Fantasy’.
I mean no one is really fluent in Latin unless you study it. Nobody would've known that Ventus is wind or the Foreteller's names are derived from the Latins words for the Seven Deadly Sins. I think Nomura knows his fans will discover the meaning of any name he comes up with lol
@@SonnyNovus Hopefully we’ll get it before 2035... Honestly, the next logical game would either be Verum Rex where we get context out of Yozora’s story because it’s literally one of the very few unfinished plot lines that have been left unanswered.
Hopefully, Nomura does pick the name Astrum because it really does sound the best for it...
Hot damn this is awesome. The amount of research and putting the bits together you did really shines through throughout this entire video. Can't wait to see more theories from you.
I'm watching this entire video for a second time because it's so good! Some might be intimidated by the length but they're just missing out 💙
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@@SonnyNovus looking forward to more good content bro
It's my 3rd time and still loving it 😌
@@TheGentleLotus I think ima watch it again too, I don't remember it from the title alone 😭 I feel like this was one of my favs
Say....do you think the MOM is aware of Joshua from the world ends with you?🤔
One of the best things about KH is the theory crafting, and this is one of the better ones I've heard. Very well done.
Shut the front door man this theroy was right in our faces 😲 omg
Weird observation, Magia actually looks extremely similar to Ardyn from FF15. The hair, the hat, and the coat.
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Okay now hear me out.. what if.. instead of MoM being the equivalent to Ardyn, Luxu is instead the equivalent to Ardyn and MoM is the equivalent to Bahamut
An anagram of Astrum is Mastur... which looks a lot like Master. And we know Nomura likes anagrams... just sayin’, good find.
this is way to good for a first video
astrum would fit into the conventional nomura naming convention
astrum = mastur
it's not perfect, but it works
Ay, in XV Ardyn said "you'll never guess who Izunia was," I'm thinking MOM may be Izunia and this is an over arching plot to bridge together KH and FF.
I really like the ideas that you brought out with this theory. You have great editing, are very descriptive, and the whole thing was visually fantastic. Easy sub from me!
I love this theory, but I would still like to know why Nameless Star resembles Sora (compare their faces) and Yozora Riku.
This is a truly terrific video; extremely compelling, well edited, and you have a great speaking voice. Looking forward to potentially more content from you. Earned yourself a sub.
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Aww, thanks a bunch. It honestly means quite a lot to me that you'd say that. Dark Cloud and KH were actually the very first PS2 games I played at my cousin's house as a wee child, so those two games are closely connected in my brain. SUCH a good ost, too!
It just gives the video a unique sense of identity to contrast slapping a familiar KH track everyone knows and calling it a day lol
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While this theory is amazing, I'm not entirely swayed for one reason: Yozora is, in the realm of Kingdom Hearts, a fictional character. The same applies to other characters in his world. If Quadratum is considered fictional (The Ending of Melody of Memory confirms that), how exactly could the Keyblade War extend to a world that doesn't exist? Until Nomura shows us a way that fictional realms can be tied to the Keyblade War and a way that fictional characters can be made real (which would have to be possible if Demyx, Luxord, and Sol/Moloch/Astrem are from Quadratum) Then I will believe you.
Thanks for the theory!
I wouldn't say it's confirmed, but rather speculated by characters like Ansem. We don't really know what the other side is, nor do we know what Unreality thinks of Reality. They could believe themselves to be real with Sora being a "cartoon" character in Yozora's universe or something. We just don't have enough information to gauge that.
Besides, if it is just a world of fiction, that doesn't really have any bearing on the "Keyblade legacy" being a part of both universes. On Yozora's sleeve we can see a skull and crossbones, with the bones being Keyblades and the skull have Sora's hair. So Keyblades have at least some significance in Yozora's universe.
and if Xemnas says it slumbers within Luxord, and Luxord's somebody is from Unreality, then by proxy it must be a part of Unreality too. If Keyblade wielders like Sora, Riku, MoM etc can make it there, then I'd bet that many others have made it there through the ages and possibly still reside there.
Also, I don't believe MoM is FROM Unreality, but rather has been there for at least some time. In KHUX, his conversation with Darkness suggests that he discovered "a world I can't even conceive" around that time, and I believe him disappearing was him crossing over like Sora did in KH3.
@@SonnyNovus Master of Masters probably has been to Unreality before, but the somebodies of Demyx and Luxord don't necessarily have to be from there. Remember, Nomura lead us to believe that Xehanort was from Destiny Islands at first. It's possible that the two were born in Reality but were living in Unreality at the time they were turned into Demyx and Luxord, as recompletion takes place at the same place where someone was split. Xehanort is probably powerful enough to have been to Unreality multiple times, as Dream Drop Distance states that he is one of the most powerful Keyblade Masters ever to live. How the somebodies of Demyx and Luxord, if they aren't from Quadratum, got to Quadratum is a mystery in and of itself. (Banishment?)
The significance of the Keyblade could be a result of MoM meddling with the affairs of Quadratum, spreading its significance in that world, even if it is fictional within the KH Universe. Why would he do that? He probably wanted to spread his influence as far as it can. Maybe he brought Demyx and Luxord with him as extra apprentices? Or, if the both of them are naturally from Quadratum, MoM could have gave them Keyblades to spread the familiarity of the Keyblade, making them part of the Keyblade legacy.
Add in Xehanort's familiarity with the lost masters and his power, it's not hard to imagine him knowing this fact and crossing over to get them using a form of his. Of course, the idea of fictional characters being made real still applies if Demyx and Luxord are from Quadratum.
@@FromElsewhear I mean, Luxord doesn't NEED to be a Quadratum native, it doesn't matter at the end of the day. To be honest, we don't know enough to make any concrete points about origins or extra significance. But if we assume that Luxord's somebody was recompleted in Quadratum after KH3, then he must've at least resided there before major events in the series took place. Whether he was born and raised there or not is irrelevant. I only mention Luxord because Demyx is an even bigger mystery. We have no idea where he's from (I should state that I don't really believe in the Demyx section of this video anymore.)
I agree that Xehanort not only knows about Unreality, but has totally been there quite a few times. It's the only way he'd be able to get Luxord and Demyx back intro Reality
Except the Master Of Masters calls Qaudratum "a world even he couldn't conceive". Which, makes me doubt that the MoM has any idea about the nature of "Unreality", and what it is, much less the people from it.
Ironically, Xehanort has the most contact with/understanding of this Unreality, besides probably Yozora himself. It will be interesting to see what Dark Road illuminates for us to see in his dark past.
We don't know if the "world he can't even conceive" is actually Quadratum, we have no idea what the Master is talking about definitively there. He could be talking about the Unchained Realm or even just the future of which Sora changed through going back in time to prevent the prophecy of light expiring.
Even if he is talking about Quadratum, we also don't know how time works between the two universes, much less for the MoM himself (it's evident that he has deeper knowledge of not only time travel, but also hopping between the two universes). We see MoM refer to a world he can't even conceive, but remember, that was said in the time of fairy tales. It's very possible that he's been far too acquainted with Quadratum since that cutscene took place. For him, it could've been centuries before we see him in the secret ending of KH3. Ephemer also appears to Sora through the Unchained Realm, which is leading to be a dreamscape that transcends time and space. Whether MoM is an entity from Unreality or has been overlooking both sides for quite some time now, we don't know.
As for Xehanort knowing ways to get Luxord/Demyx from "Unreality" to "Reality" is still a complete mystery. It's totally clear that Xehanort has some knowledge of the other side, but just how vast that knowledge is isn't clear yet. I doubt he would know about Yozora.
That's the thing, MoM definitely has to have some knowledge of Unreality since Darkness even states that he's not from Daybreak Town. I don't think he would tell Darkness the truth about Unreality unless he is trying to trap Darkness there or something. He even told Darkness that he would never allow it to read anything that important in the BoP. I feel like he is trying to guide Darkness into a trap after Daybreak Town falls.
@@victorbasurto6592 hmmm 🤔
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I think in the end KH will be super simple. Nomura has made his storyline so "complicated" and "guessable" ON PURPOSE. He wants all of us to be guessing and theorizing the outcomes of the series, just so he can come back, and smack us all right in the face with simplicity. Its simple. It has to be.
You gotta redo this after the finale. It kinda changes your position just a bit from they are from quadratum to they were sent to quadratum
What character(s) are you referring to? I think I only stated that Luxord/Demyx are "from" Quadratum. I knew MoM wasn't from Quadratum before I made the video.
What I'm saying is that MoM has been residing in Quadratum ever since he disappeared. Of course he has time based abilities and knows about the grander rules of the universe, but UX is a prequel. We see him first discover Unreality and taunt Darkness about it, but by the time we see him in KH3's secret ending, he has been more than acquainted with Unreality since the days of UX. He could easily still be responsible for a lot of what's been happening in Quadratum in recent years. UX was set eons ago.
@@SonnyNovus Demyx and Luxord I don't think they were from Quadratum I think they were sent there in the life boats and made it back after.
Terranort said to Kiari that should would find herself in unreality if his theory was incorrect, if she did not have an anchor I believe, someone to remember her.
But that could also mean that someone in Quadratum remembered Luxord and Demyx and that's why they ended up in Quadratum but I like to believe that it is the first reason.
Damn this was a good one man. First vid too? You ever done content before like on an older channel? You seem way too experienced to be completely new but either way great job! I'm not sure how long it takes to put videos like this together, but the effort shows for sure
Fingers crossed he makes a lot of content! Can’t wait for the next video
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Back from the future newer plot has made the master sound like ardyn. Enless its just me
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Master of masters and Ardyn are tied as my favorite Square Enix antagonists. Coincidence??
If you think about it, Luxord has the least screen time of all Organization XIII members, yet he is so rememberable and charismatic that his voice can immediately be recognized from a few words.
LUXord...oh my god
so in light of the second half of the finale, do you think, after some revision in specific places that aren't [directly] relevant, that this theory still holds water?
Yep, I don't see why it doesn't. Nothing was actively disproved. In fact, the finale gave certain things more substance. The Japanese asterisk symbol MoM uses when referring to Quaratum; Asterisk is derived from Star. Aster, Astrum. He's also referenced a "sun setting" mutliple times in his conversations with Luxu: "The sun will set over this duskless dawn" and stuff like that.
We still don't know about Demyx, we still don't know how Quadratum ties into all of this. The finale left as many questions unanswered as it did answer them. Also, UX is in the age of fairy tales. We now have confirmation that MoM knows the existence of Unreality. In fact, he speaks about it as if he was the one responsible for it; "A place where even Darkness can't reach" and "People want to believe in a place after death, so I want to believe in that too". Not saying he definitely is, but by the time he has that last conversation with Darkness, he is more than acquainted with the idea at least. Pair this with the huge time gap between UX and current day, and chances are MoM has been in Unreality if he hasn't been on our side.
The mixing of KH with the background music of Silent Hill makes me more interested as the video progresses. 😯
Yesssss! It just tucks you neatly into this vibe
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what if worlds can die and become "unreality" like people become heartless, and this is versus XIII's world that never was and was put down an alternate path
31:20 The 7 doors could even be represented by the 7 black pieces as seen in the cutscene of Xehanort being shown a new game by Eraqus. 7 Pieces of Dark and 1 White King. 7 Dark Doors and 1 Light Moloch. This is further fueled by a bunch of the black pieces having tops that represent each of the union leaders, all sharing animals symbolically tied to the 7 deadly sins, as well as 1 representing the heartless symbol (Riku possibly due to how prominently it is on his keyblade up until KH3, or possibly representing the door to darkness that Riku helped close) and 1 which is hard to discern the exact shape of due to the camera angles.
The 7 black pieces are the five foretellers, Luxu and the MoM. Five pieces all with the union animals, Luxu with his goat symbol and MoM with his symbol as seen on the book of prophecies. Sora is the single white piece.
It'll be really interesting to see how the foretellers will antagonize Sora, seeing as how they don't seem inherently evil when we see them in Back Cover and KH3. Ugh, personally I'd LOVE for his name to be Moloch. It just sounds sick lol
Hey what if when yozora says that isn't what he really looks like what if he changed appearances like how sora does when he travels to another world. Since in one of the trailers sora looks real what if yozora was made into what he looks like now.
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Im convinced MoM is light personified or an agent of light of some sort. Im also convinced that when he disappeared he did something along the lines of a light version of heartless/nobody turning into Yen Sid and Merlin alike. That OR just Yen Sid is MoM, or at least tightly acquainted, and heres some reasons why i beleive that: Yen Sid is a keyblade master, so where did his keyblade go? He gave it to Luxu. Also Yen Sid creates new keyblades for Riku, and Mickey, and (as far as I know) the only person known to be able to CREATE keyblades was MoM. In KH3 the ONLY time you see Yen Sid anywhere but seated in his chair is in the Keyblade graveyard when he descends from the sky as a ball of light then uses light to part the sea of darkness like friggin Moses. I think Nomura intentionally wanted us to be reminded of Moses in that scene. Also in KH3 one of the loading screens is Mickey saying "the second youre not looking Master Yen Sid's tower pops up someplace new. Who'd have thought he has a playful side?" Well in KHUX Chirithy narrator says "in the Master's playful and mischievous way he gave his apprentice, Luxu, a very important role." I dont think thats a coincidence either. BOTH Yen Sid AND Merlin just CREATED worlds outside of the normal constraints of time for every other world in the realm of light. That right there could explain where MoM disappeared to. Merlin's bag of infinite space is (presumably) a lot like the black box. In KH3 when you meet up with Merlin at the bistro he says "this side of Big Ben". I believe that to be very intentional because obviously Big Ben is in London IRL. Quadratum is modeled after Shabuya in Tokyo. "This side" may be referring to what Ansem the wise called "our side" and the other side of Big Ben being "unreality". Was Merlin letting slip that he's had tea on the other side (unreality/quadratum)? I believe so. Im also quite surprised no one has pointed out the "quad" as in a 4 sided square in quadratum. Light, dark, inbetween, and QUADratum ("unreality") being the 4th side. At the very least i believe Yen Sid at the very least acquainted with MoM in a big way because of the two most obvious clues that should be slapping every KH junkie in the face: the first is the skull with the melting candle ontop is on both Yen Sid's AND MoM's desk, and the most damning of all is Yen Sid's book thats always open with wierd symbols that look an awful lot like any sneek peak we ever got at the Book of Prophecies. NOT TO MENTION in KH2 he lets you read its 3 sections: The Beginning, Interlude, and The FUTURE STORY!!!! YEN SID HAS A BOOK OF FRIGGIN PROPHECIES! Which would explain why Yen Sid was so obsessed with Sora obtaining the Power of Waking so he can further his plot in Quadratum! It couldnt have had anything to do with waking Ventus. Riku had the power of waking the whole damn time. He could have done it. One last point: as far as I know the only characters to ever say "may your heart be your guiding key" are ones that have ties to the age of fairytales, yet Yen Sid utters it right before they depart for the keyblade graveyard in KH3, and at the very beginning Goofy says he always used to say it. Im sure i could find many other small reasons why I believe Yen Sid (and possibly Merlin as well) IS the Master of Masters. At the very least I think (unless Nomura does something stupid) its pretty undeniable Yen Sid is, or was, at the very least intimately intertwined with MoM.
If you actually read this whole comment please let me know what you think about my theory! Add some supporting clues, or point out holes and flaws! As far as i can tell theres only one youtube video about this theory, but its not very in depth or compelling, and i would LOVE to see some attention brought to the points ive made here! Thanks for reading, Champ!
holy sh**... that's totally it
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10:17 what is the name of the music
I love this video, I have rewatched it dozens of times. You are doing a great job! As a religion/ history buff I appreciate your study of mythology and history.. The quality of the editing is stellar, your passion for the material is amazing and has gotten me into KH lore. Keep it up my friend!