Has Pop Metal Gone Too Far Now?
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- Chris takes an extended look at the rise of Scene Queen, and takes a listen to the debut album Hot Singles in Your Area.
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Am a “rough looking metal dude” & I fucking love scene queen, anyone wants a fight about it let me know 🤘
want a cookie or sum? 💀
I’m with you dude, I damn love Scene Queen!
Scene queen sucks! Where?!
Scene queen crap! Where?
rough looking virgin living in his parents' basement playing videogames and watching cartoons yea. You probably like babymetal too.
Couple years ago I listened to a single track by Poppy as a joke, it was too much. Now she's one of my most favorite artists. While I ignore stuff from the "That Poppy" era, everything that came afterwards is pure gold.
Oh, and Ennaria blew my face off with Monstarrr, i fuckin can't wait for her debut album to come out. Hyperpop/deathcore mix, who would have thought ( besides Ennaria that is ) it's gonna be that good.
My mate sent me the track Poppy did for some wrestler or some wrestling thing ages ago, and I was like man that goes pretty hard. I forget what song it was now, but the last couple of albums she's put out has been pretty good, less metal and more darkwave(?) idk genres are hard.
Just curious
What did u think of zig
The title had me thinking this would be a harsh criticism and I was wondering what I had done to my algorithm to put it on my feed, so I clicked to sort out my feed, and here I am a bit surprised but I appreciate your thoughts on the matter
I really like what Scene Queen is giving tbh. This is my first time hearing about her. I really love Poppy, Cinnamon Babe, Banshee, and Zheani, all of which go really fucking hard. Growing up really appreciating my local metal scene but never seeing anyone who looked like me up on that stage was a real disconnect.
i love the very girly aesthetic of Scene Queen and I can see the Kesha comparison. Might give the album a listen after the video.
Me too! Been a metalhead for over 20 years and I think it's ridiculous how women have had to either look like and sound like men or to fit this virtuous maiden architype (especially in symphonic metal) to be taken seriously.
And then Gen Z is like "F that, F all things I 'should do' or 'shouldn't do', F all gender and genre boundaries" and make the most awesome and diverse alternative music I've ever heard.
@@Zinetha Been a metal head for over 20 years. I must say, I can't stand Scene Queen, Babymetal, etc. I'm definitely NOT a fan of this attempt to inject pop sounds/aesthetics into metal. Keep that stuff out of metal. Save it for the pop charts.
As for your comments on the looks of female metal singers/bands... that's just part of the genre. Just like punk or country have certain aesthetics associated with them. You don't see folks with spiked green mohawks performing country songs in Nashville... and you don't see folks wearing cowboy outfits performing in punk bands. It is what it is.
@@michaelbedsole970 As for the music, to each their own. I love it when artists cross genre boundaries. It makes for more interesting music and also works as a gateway artist into multiple different genres.
As for people's looks: It doesn't have to be like that. And for the new generation, it isn't. They're more open-minded than that.
@@Zinetha Some genre boundary crossing in music can be good... BUT, the mixing has to "work" and fit. I'm not a fan of mixing genres just to be doing or trying to claim you invented something new when they final product sounds atrocious.
As for the looks, sorry... but I'll stick with the position that a certain look is a part of a genre just like the sound. I don't want mismatched eclecticism in my music, sonically or aesthetically.
as a huge scene queen fan since her first EPs dropped, her concerts have been the safest ive felt at a show in ages. my first time crowdsurfing was to her & set it off and my first time moshing in the pit was with her & rivals. im incredibly grateful for what she's done for feminism in metal and disability advocacy in the music scene in general (she's very vocal about performing with POTs). "the pop bits are pop and the metal bits are metal" is definitely the best way to put it.
honestly, thank you for making this video. even if it does end up more popular than others, you're bringing in a demographic that needs to hear these words coming from someone who looks like you.
Yes the scene queen pit has been the best one of been in , I got knocked over for a good minute and was picked up and thoroughly checked on. Other pits they may pick you up but they just throw you back in 😂
Safe at a show what are you talking about the scene and Warped tour where always awesome unless you acted dumb oh no the Ska Punk bands mosh and dance and crowd surf scary. I Played so many shows and the people I met along the way I cherish I'm the singer of Duck N Cover Ska band. Oh no not Feminism blah unity we all stand together an a former old school feminist an that was BS but Modern woman smh the new Feminist movement is a joke. So far all her songs I heard are I like 3 girls in the shower eat pussy S&M and sex am I missing anything actual meaning full. Triggered at Warp tour how.
@@haileyhutchison9310 Go to Punk ska shows they do the same I played Warped tour 3 times also been playing since i was 15 so 14 years playing shows. Check out the Evil within, Bad cop Bad cop, Bomb pops, the Muffs, or my band Duck N Cover where Ska Punk rock all about Unity togetherness an fun .
First time I your channel was recommended and I really like your attitude and your content 👍.
It's also the first time I hear from scene queen and what I heard so far made me curious. I would consider myself a 6 feet tall metalpunk- head that is shitting bolts made of steel🤦♂️😝 so I would definitely wear pink merch from a band like Scene Queen if the songs can hook me up 🤘(even if I look like an even fatter 🐖 afterwards😬) Sometimes I feel that especially a lot from my generation (74) have some kind of gatekeeper mentality, what's very sad. I love so many different Band and genre's that I think that someone with an attitude like that misses a lot of really cool opportunities, but I guess that is and always will be the price for being narrow minded🤷♂️
Stay heavy and keep it up 🤘
Greetings from Austria 🙋♂️
a good video!!! i may not like the title that feels like rage bait, (even though it was answered at the end), but I am glad to hear from people who like scene queen!! I also dislike MILF, I don't like country at all, but 18+ and pink cocaine are my favourite songs so far by her, and it speaks a lot to the style and stuff she's contributing to. Someone also mentioned Ennaria, I love her too. CORPSE as well. I like the artists that put a twist on their music, instead of necessarily one genre. I don't think I'll ever like completely metal music. But it's nice to enjoy sometimes. And I think it's nice. Does that make me a true metal-head, no, but like, it makes me able to diversify my taste, and I feel like that's a good thing.
I enjoy a few specific pop artists, which makes all of Scene Queen's songs bops to me. As a lesbian it's also very refreshing to hear a cishet metalhead dude be so chill about this all. Oh, and her music is very empowering in the way it uplifts female sapphic sexuality.
@@nemuhru If you're interested in female bands that uplift female sexuality give Dogma a try. They're a very new band, only 1 album at the moment and they just started touring this month. Their sound has a dominant 80s hard rock/metal aspect with a mix of other aspects thrown in (nothing blatantly pop, thankfully).
I'd put myself in the not for me category. Maybe it will draw people into the scene though and that can't be a bad thing.
Subbed for the Lorna Shore joke
I’ve never heard of SQ but sounds pretty raddd haha I listen to anything from grind like wormrot and insect warfare to coast contra hip hop.. country like The Devil makes three.. city pop like Taeko Onuki or Saito Marina (hopefully I spelled these correct 😅) but just because you love bands like Pathology or Dying Fetus doesn’t mean you should exclude yourself from enjoying pop and hip hop or everyone’s favorite to hate in the scene “country” because there’s amazing artists in any genre
She... Might actually be more metal than a lot of bands right now. I mean. Metal started out as this outcast community. They knew they were gonna piss a lot of people off. Like, she definitely knew she was gonna get a lot of hate from metalheads. She might get a few views from pop lovers, but that's probably not really target demographic. Took a lot of guts, she's metal af. Especially exposing the BS misogyny she faced but still advocating sexual freedom. So much respekk from me.
As for pop music parts? Electric Callboy is already doing that basically, and doing extremely well.
Thanks for this video. I have no idea if I'll like her music but I'm now convinced I need to give her album at least 1-2 listens before I decide. Thank you for not just mindlessly jumping on the hate wagon, researching this deeply and giving a chance to all her songs before this video, and then spreading a positive message about it. This video felt authentic af like few other channels do. Love❤
lol I was born to the Proto Metal Generation
No
@@lynxlubbpeeps She... Scene Queen, is obnoxious. Can't stand her, Babymetal, or the Electric Fail-boys. There are just some things that don't mix well with metal.
@@michaelbedsole970 yeah its u u that doesnt miux well with metal
@@jankaufmann1174 Could you try that again... in English?
Your channel is criminally undersubbed! This is such a thoughtful and honest review with common sense through the roof. 10/10 content
Thank you so much that's so nice 🤘
Personally I enjoy scene queen quite a bit. The juxtaposition is part of the appeal, but she is also exactly what she says on the tin. She's taken metalcore and drunk (specifically Millionaires style) and mashed it together into something great. She's empowering and feminist which is something the original "scene" was the exact opposite of. Wonder why she is so great? Look at the lengthy list of sexual allegations and misogynistic lyrics of mid 2000-2010s "scene" bands. I appreciate you making this video.
Scene Queen puts into words what I’ve felt all my life in these alternative spaces and she creates a space for everyone who feels the same. It deeply resonates and I didn’t have any idea of how much I needed that until I listened to her.
As a queer woman I need to give kudos to you Chris! I didn’t expect this video to be so well researched and looking at the subject from so many angles, as soon as I finished the video I subscribed. I’m looking forward to watch more from you :)
This means so much you have no idea. Thank you for giving it a watch and for your kind words 🤘
I think that bolder genre hybrids like these are the healthiest, most exciting and best thing that have happened to the metal scene in a long, looong time. Metal with its various sub-genres used to be my main go-to music for most of my life, but its relative predictability and the widespread musically conservative mindset within the community pushed me away to explore other genres.
And pop, much to my surprise at the time, has offered me some of the most mind-bending, deep, progressive, and experimental listening experiences I've ever had. It's a common misconception that pop music must be the antithesis of alternative music. It can be just as aggressive and noisy as metal, it can be just as challenging to get into for casual radio listeners and metalheads alike. The goal of pop music isn't always to be easily digestible, despite etymologically stemming from the term "popular". Look at artists like Björk, Caroline Polachek, Dorian Electra, Charli XCX, Jockstrap or Superorganism and pay attention to the intricacies of their music making. You might not find it all enjoyable at first, but it's hard to deny its artistic value in breaking new ground, if you're openminded enough to accept that it will confront you with musical and lyrical themes you haven't appreciated (yet).
Musical preference is a matter of choice and challenging yourself with sufficient confrontation, I think.
Now, there's NOTHING wrong with sticking with more traditional metal, but dang, does it feel great to enjoy whatever you can!
Genre-bending artists like Poppy, Igorrr, öOoOoOoOoOo or Death Grips haven't taken away from my pleasure in listening metal- they've reawakened and added to it. And to answer the question if it all has gone too far, I can only say, keep going further. Its existence doesn't erase the music you already like. It only creates a new flavor that people can enjoy. If that's a problem for someone, that's on them. :3
I've been really bad at responding to comments on this video. I've been kind of overwhelmed how many there have been. But I have to highlight yours. An awesome, insightful, and passionate thing to read. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 🤘
>thinks metal has become predictable
>thinks the solution is to put breakdowns on what could've been a Katty Perry song
Either you listened only to American mainstream metal and don't know about European metal scene, or you don't listen to metal at all. SepticFlesh, that's how you reinvent metal and make it fresh without losing any of the sincerity and purity of it. Sorry, pop music, unless it's some good pop, like Phil Collins or Oingo Boingo, shouldn't be fused with metal if your intent is to be taken seriously.
@@crushingsounds666 Aww, thank you for reading, responding and opening the discussion with your video in the first place! I appreciate your work! :)
@@antona.8659 Most of what I've heard was predictable in terms of genre limitations/experimentation for the sake of purity. Metal has its hybrid forms, but I rarely feel the same sense of novelty that I got from Poppy's "I Disagree" pop/metal album. Or anything in Igorrr's discography, to name an example that does NOT incorporate pop esthetics. I love it, because it's a risky move. It's a stark musical contrast, instead of an accentuation that plays into the obvious strengths that metal has (such as adding an orchestra or folky instruments to make it sound more epic.)
And sure, let's talk about sincerity!
If you want to be true to your nature, you'll need to embrace your vulnerable, corny, goofy, curious, playful and "guilty pleasure" side too, because you're a complex being and not everything that defines you is metal.
Now, if you enjoy metal and pop in equal parts, wouldn't a pop/metal hybrid be the most sincere and self-expressive music you could possibly make?
Scene Queen is such a presence onstage, and does everything for her fans. And the fact that she's chronically ill gives me hope for myself.
This is so very unrelated to the topic of this video, but I notice a trend in the comments here. We have a lot to say, and we articulate ourselves very well.
There are so many times in this current world with media consumption where everything needs to be said in a few words. Anything over a couple of words, reaction comments are "U rly think Im gona read this shhii." It really does disappoint me. And then you have people "liking" said comment. They can't be bothered to read any more than a few words, either. How is this acceptable?
Thank you my metal brothers and sisters for reminding me that not everyone in this world has a very short attention span, they are willing to actively engage in a proper conversation, and not all is lost.
Again, a very unrelated comment to this video, but thank you all for giving me some kind of hope that not everyone has given up with being able to actually talk/type/spell/read.
I don't want Cardi B and Nicki Minaj mixed in with my metal. I understand there's a market for it, and it's all in good fun, but it's not for me. That said, I love the Genitorturers so go figure.
I just discovered them but I like it.
The angry diatribe that the dude quotes in this as indictment of the gatekeeping in the scene received TWO LIKES in a matter of EIGHTEEN WEEKS. Dude went out of his way to find the most irrelevant possible person to reference. Can we please make a new rule where you can't use completely ignored and completely irrelevant content as examples of audience opinion? It would be a different story if this was a well-liked, commonly expressed opinion, but citing a comment with TWO LIKES over EIGHTEEN WEEKS is about as legitimate as citing the graffiti on a bathroom stall
edit: for the record, I am a FAN of Scene Queen, so this isn't some angry response comment. I'm just calling out bad form where it exists.
*has a flashback to 2001 and Andrew WK*
Babymetal is metal. Xe-None is metal. This is metal. It's not any less different from what most people comfortably call metal than what metal originally was (to the point some people will even nowadays argue that the majority of mainstream 80s metal is rock and not metal, lol). Shit evolves.
Okay I actually listen to some of her songs after watching this video. Whether she's metal or not depends on whether you classify core as metal or not. Most people don't really distinguish them nowadays since punk and metal have been mixing and influencing each other for so long both ways that it's a spectrum with no clear line between them. She's definitely core and heavy enough to be in these murky grey areas that could be or not be classed as metal. BUT THIS IS NOT BECAUSE OF THE POP COMPONENTS TO HET MUSIC. THESE DO NOT AFFECT THE METAL-NESS IF HER MUSIC AT ALL. DO NOT TAKE ANY OF IT AWAY AT ALL. The way she incorporates pop in her metal/core is arguably more raw and aggressive than when bands like Slipknot start singling cute sugary clean vocals choruses after a heavy riff driven stanza. Arguably in case of bands like Slipknot adorable choruses take a lot of the metal-ness from songs like Psychosocial, but nobody will argue they're not metal. Arguing it in her case is even more laughable IMO and is clearly just a matter of prejudice towards the visual aesthetic.
Evolving means progress. This and your precious babymetal dumbs the genre down to nursery rhymes set to club beats
@@Sylkis89 In the case of stuff like SQ and Babymetal, it's a toxic mutation that equates to an evolutionary dead-end. NO THANKS!
@@staalhard4044 I 100% agree. While music genres can evolve and have flexibility... there are certain criteria for each category. Otherwise there wouldn't be any musical genres.
Most all metal is good, though I admit I was never big on the nu metal thing back in the day but I'm not going to disparage it or any of the artists. Any metal is better than today's country music. And yet, back in the 80s some of the metal bands like Warrant and Roxx Gang out of Florida would incorporate some banjo and southern rock vibes in some of their songs. Heck, I've heard some southern rock bands that were as heavy as many of the metal acts around. It's all good. "To bring good where there once was evil, to bring love where there once was hate, to bring wisdom where there once was ignorance; this is the power of White Witch." Rock on!
Gatekeepers ruin every community they plant themselves into. Oh yeah, I remember all the hate on Babymetal dating back to 2015
Lorna Shore, my favourite Softcore Pop metal band.
Kim Dracula goes pretty hard for a fusion of genres.
It's unique, self-aware and has a good message. No issue.
5:55-6:15--Yes, a lesson which can be generalised to many situations and everyone should have learned in kindergarten but which now seems completely lost on so many people....Kind of like their maturation stopped at...kindergarten age.
Seems pretty not for me, but I'm sure I listen to a lot of stuff certain metal fans would be angry about on the goth/symphonic side, it is fine for people to like things. Thanks for the info dump, probably would have never known this was even a thing otherwise.
wow, your channel deserves so much more! good quality commentary, I'm glad I got reccomended your video :)
Isn't that her from The Boys?
I love pop music and I also like metal because of bring me to the horizon and I found scene queen, who songs are very catchy. I also realise her songs are in your face and very dark as well as sexual like 18+, push-up bra and many more.
LGBTQ+ person here and I feel super empowered and seen by her music. Love what she's doing and appreciate the thoughtful analysis
Ever heard of Otep? She's gay, was sexually abused as a child (which she referenced in many songs), but made actual earnest heavy (at some points extreme) music instead of trying to be Britney Spears singing over downtunned guitars. The problem with mainstream pop music is that it's sanitized crap lacking in sincerity. Metal always stood against that.
This new wave of whatever metal is clearly blasphemy
I saw her live a month ago and it was one of the best acts during the festival. It felt like a safespace and i had a headache afterwards because i was headbanging that hard xd
this band sounds like 2008 suburbia, not a bad fit
Soggy knees!
I've got no problem with this music existing - but it's worth asking what "lane" of music it belongs in.
There's an uncanny valley between "Metal with Pop elements" and "Pop with Metal elements" - and we are pretty much crossing into the latter. Also - the type of "Metal" in her music is Metalcore which is already a hybrid genre - and the "heavy parts" are hardcore-esque breakdowns - ie. music from the Punk/Hardcore realm, not the Heavy Metal realm.
Again - there is no issue with this existing but the fact that Metal Hammer push this act as well as Sleep Token so much really puts me off Metal Hammer.
I don't mind scrolling past music I'm not into but when it gets to the point where it's annoyingly oversaturated with this kind of stuff - I am more inclined to follow other, more "exclusionary" outlets/pages.
I think if we called this Metal Pop instead of Pop Metal - there would be a bit more of a tolerance for it.
It's a subgenre of Pop music that includes Metalcore elements, that's fair enough. Why don't we embrace that instead?
Scene queen reminds me a lot of in this moment who leaned into the hate and wrote sex metal Barbie which I do enjoy so I will have to try scene queen
Calling what Polyphia has become "metal" is certainly disingenuous...
Funny you mention Kesha since she's been one of the very few pop artists I genuinely enjoyed. I love her voice and always imagined that she'd be amazing in a heavier stuff.
Also you made me want to check out Scene Queen. I've only seen snippets of her Barbie and Ken songs, I liked them but never thought to check her out.
It's not metal it's breakdowns it's suckt it's post hardcore pop not metal pop voices are not metal
Scene Queen is more cringe than she is awesome overall, but the "Twerkle pit, twerk in the circle pit!" bridge might be the best bridge in the past decade
I think satire is lost on people.
I actually saw scene queen live last year it was one of the best concerts i went to. Ive been listening to her music for a few years now. Im a metal head emo goth whatever you want to call me i love music thats the main thing.
I absolutely adore scene queen and I can happily recommend her to everyone.
Fuck yes something as a bridge between my pop playlists and metal playlists!
Thank you for introducing me to this album 🧡
And fuck YES MORE QUEER METAL
You know about the existence of Judas Priest and Gaahl right?
@@Zeitgeist6 yes I do and I adore them! But I always get excited for more!
Stop being a hater for no reason
The music isn't my cup of tea so I have no interest in listening to it despite I listen to actual pop and metal music. The culmination of the two seems way too chaotic for me personally but ehhh each to their own
I've never heard of Scene Queen before this. Kinda curious about it but probably won't check it out right now. It just made me want to go back and listen to Sumo Cyco. I generally gravitate to punk and metal, but as I explore more and more music I see the value of many genres and i love the genre blending that's happening today.
Absolute garbage. Scene Queen ends up making Nickelback sound good by comparison.
I recently discovered scene queen. she's killing it! her, babymetal, and poppy are doing the pop metal thing right! It feels very refreshing to do something super different. I'm a music nerd and LOVE metal and hard rock. I love how scene queen is taking advantage of good algorithmic song titles with fun lyrics. metal has taken itself too seriously the last 30 years. this new stuff feels very 80s in spirit of let's have fun and make good music. very refreshing to say the least. this is what music is supposed to be: entertainment and fun! since the late 2000s metal has taken itself waay too seriously and focused on perfection in production and technical skill. while that's necessary, i'd rather have a fun catchy song that is super heavy still (with good meaningful lyrics). Metal started as a performance and theater of the occult. it started about doing shit no one else did. Glad the trend is continuing.
Personally my dream was to have boy band pop hooks and vocal style with heavy metal. so far I've only collaborated with singer-songwriters on my metal tracks (to be released soon).
@@CreativeMindsAudio No... just no. I can't stand pop "metal".
@@michaelbedsole970 that’s fine if you don’t enjoy it. But no need to gate keep. Still metal.
@@CreativeMindsAudio No, it isn't. You can enjoy it if you want, but don't expect me to refer to THAT as metal. As far as "gate keeping" allegations go, genres have defining characteristics... otherwise there would be no musical genres if it was an "anything goes" situation.
@@michaelbedsole970 I guess? But like these bands I listed all have those defining characteristics of metal. But what do I know. I just wrote for metal underground for 10 years doing news about metal and interviewing metal bands and all that fun stuff. I definitely have NO idea what I’m talking about 🙄
@@CreativeMindsAudio You definitely don't seem to grasp that pop "metal" isn't metal.
Why not just give attention to In This Moment instead?
Had I not listened to scene queen before and decided that the Ke$ha vibes were too much for me, you would have succeeded into making me give them a chance. I am a trans lesbian though and from that perspective it's always nice to see LGBTQ people in heavy music representing the community. I personally prefer things that are more consistently harsh and raw, like Uboa, Ada Rook/Black Dresses, Ragana or similar such bands. My home in alternative music is primarily the result of people understanding the pain that comes with being LGBTQ not necessarily be LGBTQ though. I think your average Deathconsciousness enjoyer knows as much about that pain, as other LGBTQ people do. The most at home I've ever felt in a community was while absolutely weeping at Giles Corey live on Roadburn because everyone there felt that, knew that pain if for different reasons, and Dan Barret is still a cis straight dude last I checked.
Anyway I do apreciate some camp, but if it has to be camp give me something like Rat Castle.
These bands like bmth or elevtric callboy do attract a different crowd to the metal festivals though. More fratboys ironically and the like. (But so did numetal back in the day and those folks were a lot worse) Gatekeeping is bad Id agree but we dont need to stand for everything. Basically we need standards for behavior is what I am saying.
@@VonFreklstein Nu metal sucked big time. Each genre of music has to have boundaries, otherwise no genres would exist.
Dreadful. Reminds me of brokencyde
Nah I'll just stick to doom.
Ive went to Warped Tour as a Kid than had the Opportunity to get to play with a couple of my Friends bands and Punk hardcore Ska and other genre of Bands i played with and befriended. Never felt the Fight or Flight or was Triggered. I was playing in Duck N Cover the Ska Punk Band I sang my heart out and put everything into it was a great time. The only time an Alcohol did not help for other than guys flirting and girls that was about it Wait i almost did get in a Fight cause the singer of Paramore was being a rich snob spreading lies on social media about bands.
honestly i don't care about it because i am a proud oldhead
Not terrible. Honestly though, I don't like a lot of metal anymore since about the early 2010's.
It's official if seen Queen is metal then they got to put all the old D Metalized bands back beginning middle and end
I'd be listening to both underground and mainstream metal nowadays.
I didn't even know there was a whole trending algorhythm of british dudes overanalyzing the music industry and pop culture, I thought Coolea was the only one
Emo pop of emo music suckt it's kids music darkwave it's underground Meanstream een metal it's ook Meanstream emo it's alternatieve music alternatieve music suckt
Not my kind of Metal and wouldn't dare even actually call it Metal. Kinda Cringe imo. Mainly She is. Lol
I "Fit into" the Category She's trying to Cater too ig(?), but, nah.
Also. What She said about the Metal Scene and then Singing about what She Sings is like, so contradictory imo. Like. Bruh. Lol
Like. "This place is S-ists, now imma sing about S**." Like, great job Sis. That'll show all the Men in the Scene. Not. Like. Just no. Jeez.
At least there's Some Good Parts, like the Screaming. But. Meh.
I like the Video Coverage though. Great Job, Man. owo
D... do you think talking about sex is sexist?? A lot of anti-misogynists talk about sex. Because it's pretty relevant to sexism and misogyny. Also because they have sex, or don't, and that matters to them and how they experience any bigotry. What are you talking about.
@@chickenlittle8158 I wasn't sayin it was. I just find it ironic. Because the main idea of misogyny is Men treat Women like objects and then She does the same thing to Herself. Like It's a good jab back.
I don't always listen to Metal and Rock, i sometimes diverge and i listen to Ashnikko, similar vibe to this Woman's Music.
Finding Irony in it doesn't mean it's a bad thing. But it doesn't exactly make someone seem like they're fighting what they're unhappy about. But that's just me and everyone is allowed to have an opinion. No need to yell at me. Lol
@@chickenlittle8158 Ig another note.
If She's Rebelling. The idea of Rebelling is to do the Opposite of what you're going Against is Doing.
Maybe it doesn't make much sense. But. Ya'know. Wording myself right isn't my strong suit unfortunately. Stuff happens ig. Lol
@@yeet6362 I don't know how you got the impression I was yelling at you. But talking about sex and seuxalizing herself isn't treating herself like an object, and regardless engaging with oneself in an objectifying way IS known to be a manner of commentating on your objectification by others.
@@chickenlittle8158 I guess. How i see it as is basically the thing you didn't like having said and done to you, by doing the same thing, but to yourself, which only further solidifies that you are exactly the thing you didn't like called and treated as. Just seem counter productive. Ya'know?
Not metal