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Seems pretty not for me, but I'm sure I listen to a lot of stuff certain metal fans would be angry about on the goth/symphonic side, it is fine for people to like things. Thanks for the info dump, probably would have never known this was even a thing otherwise.

Calling what Polyphia has become "metal" is certainly disingenuous...

The angry diatribe that the dude quotes in this as indictment of the gatekeeping in the scene received TWO LIKES in a matter of EIGHTEEN WEEKS. Dude went out of his way to find the most irrelevant possible person to reference. Can we please make a new rule where you can't use completely ignored and completely irrelevant content as examples of audience opinion? It would be a different story if this was a well-liked, commonly expressed opinion, but citing a comment with TWO LIKES over EIGHTEEN WEEKS is about as legitimate as citing the graffiti on a bathroom stall edit: for the record, I am a FAN of Scene Queen, so this isn't some angry response comment. I'm just calling out bad form where it exists.

Scene Queen is more cringe than she is awesome overall, but the "Twerkle pit, twerk in the circle pit!" bridge might be the best bridge in the past decade

Subbed for the Lorna Shore joke

I think that bolder genre hybrids like these are the healthiest, most exciting and best thing that have happened to the metal scene in a long, looong time. Metal with its various sub-genres used to be my main go-to music for most of my life, but its relative predictability and the widespread musically conservative mindset within the community pushed me away to explore other genres. And pop, much to my surprise at the time, has offered me some of the most mind-bending, deep, progressive, and experimental listening experiences I've ever had. It's a common misconception that pop music must be the antithesis of alternative music. It can be just as aggressive and noisy as metal, it can be just as challenging to get into for casual radio listeners and metalheads alike. The goal of pop music isn't always to be easily digestible, despite etymologically stemming from the term "popular". Look at artists like Björk, Caroline Polachek, Dorian Electra, Charli XCX, Jockstrap or Superorganism and pay attention to the intricacies of their music making. You might not find it all enjoyable at first, but it's hard to deny its artistic value in breaking new ground, if you're openminded enough to accept that it will confront you with musical and lyrical themes you haven't appreciated (yet). Musical preference is a matter of choice and challenging yourself with sufficient confrontation, I think. Now, there's NOTHING wrong with sticking with more traditional metal, but dang, does it feel great to enjoy whatever you can! Genre-bending artists like Poppy, Igorrr, öOoOoOoOoOo or Death Grips haven't taken away from my pleasure in listening metal- they've reawakened and added to it. And to answer the question if it all has gone too far, I can only say, keep going further. Its existence doesn't erase the music you already like. It only creates a new flavor that people can enjoy. If that's a problem for someone, that's on them. :3

This is so very unrelated to the topic of this video, but I notice a trend in the comments here. We have a lot to say, and we articulate ourselves very well. There are so many times in this current world with media consumption where everything needs to be said in a few words. Anything over a couple of words, reaction comments are "U rly think Im gona read this shhii." It really does disappoint me. And then you have people "liking" said comment. They can't be bothered to read any more than a few words, either. How is this acceptable? Thank you my metal brothers and sisters for reminding me that not everyone in this world has a very short attention span, they are willing to actively engage in a proper conversation, and not all is lost. Again, a very unrelated comment to this video, but thank you all for giving me some kind of hope that not everyone has given up with being able to actually talk/type/spell/read.

this band sounds like 2008 suburbia, not a bad fit

This new wave of whatever metal is clearly blasphemy

*has a flashback to 2001 and Andrew WK*

I just discovered them but I like it.

LGBTQ+ person here and I feel super empowered and seen by her music. Love what she's doing and appreciate the thoughtful analysis

Soggy knees!

Lorna Shore, my favourite Softcore Pop metal band. Kim Dracula goes pretty hard for a fusion of genres.

Stop being a hater for no reason

Ive went to Warped Tour as a Kid than had the Opportunity to get to play with a couple of my Friends bands and Punk hardcore Ska and other genre of Bands i played with and befriended. Never felt the Fight or Flight or was Triggered. I was playing in Duck N Cover the Ska Punk Band I sang my heart out and put everything into it was a great time. The only time an Alcohol did not help for other than guys flirting and girls that was about it Wait i almost did get in a Fight cause the singer of Paramore was being a rich snob spreading lies on social media about bands.

The music isn't my cup of tea so I have no interest in listening to it despite I listen to actual pop and metal music. The culmination of the two seems way too chaotic for me personally but ehhh each to their own

I don't want Cardi B and Nicki Minaj mixed in with my metal. I understand there's a market for it, and it's all in good fun, but it's not for me. That said, I love the Genitorturers so go figure.

I didn't even know there was a whole trending algorhythm of british dudes overanalyzing the music industry and pop culture, I thought Coolea was the only one

as a huge scene queen fan since her first EPs dropped, her concerts have been the safest ive felt at a show in ages. my first time crowdsurfing was to her & set it off and my first time moshing in the pit was with her & rivals. im incredibly grateful for what she's done for feminism in metal and disability advocacy in the music scene in general (she's very vocal about performing with POTs). "the pop bits are pop and the metal bits are metal" is definitely the best way to put it. honestly, thank you for making this video. even if it does end up more popular than others, you're bringing in a demographic that needs to hear these words coming from someone who looks like you.

The title had me thinking this would be a harsh criticism and I was wondering what I had done to my algorithm to put it on my feed, so I clicked to sort out my feed, and here I am a bit surprised but I appreciate your thoughts on the matter

Absolute garbage. Scene Queen ends up making Nickelback sound good by comparison.

I enjoy a few specific pop artists, which makes all of Scene Queen's songs bops to me. As a lesbian it's also very refreshing to hear a cishet metalhead dude be so chill about this all. Oh, and her music is very empowering in the way it uplifts female sapphic sexuality.

Scene Queen is such a presence onstage, and does everything for her fans. And the fact that she's chronically ill gives me hope for myself.

Nah I'll just stick to doom.

Isn't that her from The Boys?

It's not metal it's breakdowns it's suckt it's post hardcore pop not metal pop voices are not metal

Emo pop of emo music suckt it's kids music darkwave it's underground Meanstream een metal it's ook Meanstream emo it's alternatieve music alternatieve music suckt

These bands like bmth or elevtric callboy do attract a different crowd to the metal festivals though. More fratboys ironically and the like. (But so did numetal back in the day and those folks were a lot worse) Gatekeeping is bad Id agree but we dont need to stand for everything. Basically we need standards for behavior is what I am saying.

5:55-6:15--Yes, a lesson which can be generalised to many situations and everyone should have learned in kindergarten but which now seems completely lost on so many people....Kind of like their maturation stopped at...kindergarten age.

a good video!!! i may not like the title that feels like rage bait, (even though it was answered at the end), but I am glad to hear from people who like scene queen!! I also dislike MILF, I don't like country at all, but 18+ and pink cocaine are my favourite songs so far by her, and it speaks a lot to the style and stuff she's contributing to. Someone also mentioned Ennaria, I love her too. CORPSE as well. I like the artists that put a twist on their music, instead of necessarily one genre. I don't think I'll ever like completely metal music. But it's nice to enjoy sometimes. And I think it's nice. Does that make me a true metal-head, no, but like, it makes me able to diversify my taste, and I feel like that's a good thing.

Most all metal is good, though I admit I was never big on the nu metal thing back in the day but I'm not going to disparage it or any of the artists. Any metal is better than today's country music. And yet, back in the 80s some of the metal bands like Warrant and Roxx Gang out of Florida would incorporate some banjo and southern rock vibes in some of their songs. Heck, I've heard some southern rock bands that were as heavy as many of the metal acts around. It's all good. "To bring good where there once was evil, to bring love where there once was hate, to bring wisdom where there once was ignorance; this is the power of White Witch." Rock on!

I love pop music and I also like metal because of bring me to the horizon and I found scene queen, who songs are very catchy. I also realise her songs are in your face and very dark as well as sexual like 18+, push-up bra and many more.

Personally I enjoy scene queen quite a bit. The juxtaposition is part of the appeal, but she is also exactly what she says on the tin. She's taken metalcore and drunk (specifically Millionaires style) and mashed it together into something great. She's empowering and feminist which is something the original "scene" was the exact opposite of. Wonder why she is so great? Look at the lengthy list of sexual allegations and misogynistic lyrics of mid 2000-2010s "scene" bands. I appreciate you making this video.

As a an outsider who just clicked this out of interest - this music seems hyper obnoxious. I'm not a metal guy anymore but my god this shit is a headache. Metal or not I don't care, she just sounds and looks awful. Gatekeeping about genres is stupid, this is metal music for sure and misogyny is rampant online, but man it's fucking annoying haha. But I haven;t been into the scene since like 2014 so I'm way out of the loop.🤷‍♂ Good video, keep it up.

I've got no problem with this music existing - but it's worth asking what "lane" of music it belongs in. There's an uncanny valley between "Metal with Pop elements" and "Pop with Metal elements" - and we are pretty much crossing into the latter. Also - the type of "Metal" in her music is Metalcore which is already a hybrid genre - and the "heavy parts" are hardcore-esque breakdowns - ie. music from the Punk/Hardcore realm, not the Heavy Metal realm. Again - there is no issue with this existing but the fact that Metal Hammer push this act as well as Sleep Token so much really puts me off Metal Hammer. I don't mind scrolling past music I'm not into but when it gets to the point where it's annoyingly oversaturated with this kind of stuff - I am more inclined to follow other, more "exclusionary" outlets/pages. I think if we called this Metal Pop instead of Pop Metal - there would be a bit more of a tolerance for it. It's a subgenre of Pop music that includes Metalcore elements, that's fair enough. Why don't we embrace that instead?

honestly i don't care about it because i am a proud oldhead

I recently discovered scene queen. she's killing it! her, babymetal, and poppy are doing the pop metal thing right! It feels very refreshing to do something super different. I'm a music nerd and LOVE metal and hard rock. I love how scene queen is taking advantage of good algorithmic song titles with fun lyrics. metal has taken itself too seriously the last 30 years. this new stuff feels very 80s in spirit of let's have fun and make good music. very refreshing to say the least. this is what music is supposed to be: entertainment and fun! since the late 2000s metal has taken itself waay too seriously and focused on perfection in production and technical skill. while that's necessary, i'd rather have a fun catchy song that is super heavy still (with good meaningful lyrics). Metal started as a performance and theater of the occult. it started about doing shit no one else did. Glad the trend is continuing. Personally my dream was to have boy band pop hooks and vocal style with heavy metal. so far I've only collaborated with singer-songwriters on my metal tracks (to be released soon).

Babymetal, Butcher Babies, Conquer//Divide, and Doll$Boxx walked so Broken By The Scream, Poppy, Not Enough Space, and Scene Queen could RUN. Yes, I actively like all the bands I've mentioned in this comment and others... Okay, I lied, I actually don't like Megadeth. Sorry, Metallica and FUCKING SLAYER were and are better, that's my opinion, nobody has to agree, but they do have to accept it. Anyone who doesn't like that other people have opinions they might disagree with can use a cheese grater as a fleshlight or a dildo; go figure out which one works for you. Gate keeping is fucking dumb, and anyone who does it probably has some weird deep seeded insecurity. Stop being a dick and see a therapist!

So it's the same people who hate and have hated on Bring Me The Horizon, Butcher Babies, Conquer//Divide, Periphery, Sordid Pink, Not Enough Space, and all the Kawaii Metal artists, and all of their fans. When I was in High School - this is going back to the days of like, 2005, 2006 - I remember people asking me if I only pretend to like Slipknot and Bring Me The Horizon to get a girlfriend, or if I just guzzled dick... like, WHAT THE FUCK. I had people tell me that Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth were "baby's first black metal bands for little girls" and that The Black Dahlia Murder was "melodeath for metalcore f*gg*ts who took it up the ass for As I Lay Dying concert tickets" and I really wish this was made up. People were EXTREMELY homophobic back then, YIKES.

Why not just give attention to In This Moment instead?

I'd be listening to both underground and mainstream metal nowadays.

I quite like the clumsy disjointedness of MILF. She clearly has a good understanding of how to blend different styles so I took it as a deliberate choice. This music video seems to be presented like a nature mockumentary, a tongue in cheek visualization of the pop vs metal discourse, it shows the two styles clashing and by the end the boundaries break down, both crowds merge and do the other's dance, lead by scene queen I think another thing worth mentioning is that being out and singing explicitly about how much you love gay sex as a woman in a country song (a genre which tends to be associated with more conservative leaning audiences, although that's started to change recently which I'm loving) adds another level of holy shit she's putting her whole pussy into pissing off EVERY bigot she possibly can. This is what metal should be doing now. This is what we need.

I've never heard of Scene Queen before this. Kinda curious about it but probably won't check it out right now. It just made me want to go back and listen to Sumo Cyco. I generally gravitate to punk and metal, but as I explore more and more music I see the value of many genres and i love the genre blending that's happening today.

I think satire is lost on people.

i for one don't need feminist bs in my metal and find her profoundly unlikeable. but hey thats just me and no, it has nothing to do with the fact that its mixing genres, pink or done by a woman.

“New Slayer” is undoubtedly a compliment level Liege of the Marshlands 🙏🏼 Looking forward to sharing stage.

It's official if seen Queen is metal then they got to put all the old D Metalized bands back beginning middle and end

I saw her live a month ago and it was one of the best acts during the festival. It felt like a safespace and i had a headache afterwards because i was headbanging that hard xd

It's unique, self-aware and has a good message. No issue.